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1977-05-24 3 On motion the meeting was adjourned. Respectfully, Donald A. Chase Town Clerk Town of Oueensbury RESOLUTION TO ADOPT A LOCAL LAW PROVIDING FOR THE APPOINTMENT INSTEAD OF ELECTION OF THE SUPERINTENDENT OF HIGHWAYS OF THE T014M OF OUEENSBURY RESOLUTION—NO. 123, Introduced by Mr. Michel Brandt who moved its adoption, secon ed by r. ammond Robertson: WHEREAS, the office of Town Superintendent of Highways is presently an elective office in the Town of Queensbury and WHEREAS, Section 23 of the Municipal Home Rule Law authorizes the Town Board to adopt a local law changing the office of Town of Queensbury Superintendent of Highways from elective to appointive and WHEREAS, such local law is subject to a mandatory referendum pursuant to ' Municipal Home Rule Law Section 23 (2) (e) and WHEREAS, such a local law would become operative only if adopted by -the Town board and if approved at a Special or General Election by the affirma- tive vote of a majority of the qualified electors of the Town of Queensbury voting upon the proposition and WHEREAS, a .groposed local law has been prepared and has been presented for adoption by the Town Board in accordance wit# law, and WHEREAS, a public hearing has been held concerning the desirability of the adoption of said local law, and WHEREAS, it appears that the local law in its present form is in compliance with legal requirements, NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury adopt a local law providing for the appointment inseead of election of the Superintendent of Highways of the Town of Queensbury as local law4upotO of 1977 of the Town of Queensbury and that the Town Clerk be authorized and directed to take all necessary action to cause said local law to be submitted to the qualified electors of the Town of Queensbury voting upon the proposition at the General Election bo be held in November 1977 in accordance with and as required by law. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt Noes : None Absent: NOne REGULAR MEETING MAY 24, 1977 MEMBERS PRESENT: Michel Brandt-Supervisor "Daniel Olson-Councilman Robert Barbet-Councilman Frances Walter-Councilman j Hammond Robertson-Councilman �-- Joseph Brennan-Town Counsel PRESS: Tri County News , WWSC, WBZA, Glens Falls Post Star TOWN .OFFICIALS: COUNTY OFFICIALS: Lloyd Dembmeki, Thomas Murphy, Carl Garb, Shirley Shenk GUESTS: William Munoz, Mr. Goetz, Mr. Turnbull, Mr. Morrell, Meeting Opened: 7: 30P.M. Salute to the Flag, led by Supervisor Brandt. PUBLIC HEARING-LOCAL LAW PROVIDING FOR TAX EXEMPTION TO ELIGIBLE BUSINESS FACILITIES PURSUANT TO SECTION 485 OF THE REAL PROPERTY TAX LAW AS LOCAL 40 LAW NO. 2 OF 1977 OF THE TOWN OF 0'UEENSBURY- NOTICE READ- PROPOSED LOCAL LAW WAS READ-COPY ON FILE IN TOWN CLERK' S OFFICE SUPERVISOR BRANDT- First of all, we had discussed earlier in the year the possibility of providing some tax re- lief for new business. I was personally opposed to it, because I felt it lacked control, it appeared to me that a business simply changing location could qualify for tax credit, and it looked like it opened us up to a lot of rating to try and change locations and that would serve no purpose for the citizens. However, this law, as I see it, provides for a regulating body to oversee that. The business that is getting tax relief does produce nww jobs, that is constantly monitored on a yearly basis, by a State Agency, and its tax relief is dependent on meeting the qualifications of providing the jobs that are set out to provide. If it provides new jobs for one year, and the next year gets rid of these people it no longer qualifies for the tax relief. Hearing Opened: 7 : 38 P.M. RBquested input from the public. DANIEL MORRELL- Questioned what the qualifications were that had (Lymnfikld Dr. ) to be met? Number of employees? SUPERVISOR BRANDT- That is correct, the number of new employees, it had to create at least five jobs to start to qualify. The business can also be exempt from State Taxes on a business. . . .if an industry qualifies under the State formula then it would also, if we enact this law be exempt from Town property tax. DANIEL MORRELL- What organization will oversee the application? JOSEPH BRENNAN- The New York State JOB INeRNTIV9 Board—within (Town Counsel) the New York State Department of Commerce. _ COUNCILMAN BARBER-Arrived at the Meeting. COUNCILMAN OLSON- Is this only manufacturing or are we also looking at retail outlets , such as stores? JOSEPH BRENNAN- Reviewed the proposed law noting that it pertained only to manufacturing and wholesale businesses. . . also noted crdteria of training programs that must be set up. COUNCILMAN OLSON- Questioned Counsel on the maximum amount of time that a business may have tax relief. JOSEPH BRENNAN- Noted that if a business remained eligible it could receive 100% exemption for the first five years and 50% for the following five years. GEORGE GOETZ- Questioned what the old business@s,that have been paying taxes year after year -.gotng- t6 get in regard to tax relief? JOSEPH BRENNAN- It is possible that a new wholesaler meeting the standards would come into the area, and receive tax relief, where a long standing bus- iness of the same type would not be entitled to the same tax break. WILLIAM R. MUNOZ- Read the follwwing statement for the record. A R C C Adirondack Regional Chambers of Commerce POSITION STATEMENT TOWN OF OUEENSBURY ADOPTION OF LOCAL LAW PERSUANT TO SECTION 485 - NYS REAL PROPERTY TAX LAW 41 The Adirondack Regional Chambers of Commerce representing business and industry in the Town of Oueensbury as well as her neighboring communities , strongly supports and endorses- the Town Father'S con- sideration to adopt a local law which will provide for tax exemption to eligible businesses persuant to Section 485 of the NYS Real Property Tax Law. We highly commend our Town leaders for their consideration of this important piece of legillation for local adoption. The ARCC is most interested .in, providing our community and community- area marketplace with the necessary tools to attract new job producing industry and business fo.r our citizens , and thereby increase the economic _. vitality of our marketplace. Throug# the adoption of Seciion 485 of the NYS Real Property. Tax Law, the Town of Queensbury will provide a tax exemption incentive, which will help our community-area' s industrial/ commercial development efforts by placing our marketplace closer to equal footing with neighboring states and municipalities who already have aggressive incentive packages to offer new businesses . /s/ William T_. Munoz Executive Vice-President ARTHUR TURNBULL- Questioned that the Board did go against a (Sunnyside) proposed tax incentive some time ago? SUPERVISOR BRANDT- That was another consideration of a seperate bill, this is a different proposal. COUNCILMAN ROBERTSON- Questioned Counsel-in regard to lease arrangements , if there would be any problems because of this? , JOSEPH BRENNAN- Noted that he would have to study that problem, but as far as far as he had read the statute, there is no restriction which would prohibit this. . . COUNCILMAN WALTER- Questioned, the Town of Queensbury with passage of this resolution would theif size of the tax credit be determined by the same formula? JOSEPH BRENNAN Basically the formula under the NYS Tax Law, the tax to be paid to the State of New York, is a complicated formula based on the expenditure for the capital improvement itself, it is not a. l to 1 tax credit situation. It is directly applicable to the State of course because of the relationship between funding from the State to the Town it does have a direct influence but I do not think the influence is anywhere near as significant as the impact could be directly on the property tax situation, insofar as the Town is concerned. COUNCILMAN WALTER- Questioned if this took into consideration new salaries? JOSEPH BRENNAN- Yes . COUNCILMAN ROBERTSON- If this does go through there would be no local control? - -, JOSEPH BRENNAN- There is always the possibility of Court review. DANIEL MORRELL- What Board would determine the assessed evaluation of the property? SUPERVISOR BRANDT- The Town Assessor. ARTHUR THRNBULL- Asked why it was illegal a year ago to give tax relief_ and now it it not? JOSEPH BRENNAN- That is the function of the N.Y.St. Legislature. COUNCILMAN ROBERTSON- Does this apply to special benefit taxes as well as general property taxes? 42 JOSEPH BRENNAN- They do have to pay special benefit District taxes . . . COUNCILMAN WALTER- Questioned if this affected School Taxes? JOSEPH BRENNAN- No. This is left to the independent judgement of the School dist. SUPERVISOR BRANDT- Commented that the School dist. are not normally giving this relief. . . Requested other comments. . .no one responded. Hearing Closed. 7: 55 P.M. i JOSEPH BRENNAN- Requested time from the Board to research several t` questioned that came up at the hearing and to give his opinion to the Board. . . SUPERVISOR BRANDT- We will wait for your opinion. . . RESOLUTIONS RESOLUTION TO APPROPRIATE FUNDS FOR IMPROVEMENTS AT PINEVIEW CEMETERY RESOLUTION NO 125 Introduced by Mr. Daniel Olson who moved its adoption, seconded y r. ammond Robertson: WHEREAS, in 1974, the Town of Oueensbury, in accordance with law caused to be conveyed to George J. Boychuck certain lands owned by the Town of Queens- bury for a consideration of SIXTY-ONE THOUSAND ONE ($61 ,001. 00) DOLLARS as more fully described in Resolution No. 106 of 1974 and WHEREAS , said lands constituted part of Pineview Cemetery and WHEREAS, it was intended that one-fourth (4) of the pale price be designated for the Pineview Cemetery perpetual care fund which sum was paid to said fund and WHEREAS , it was understood, intended and agreed that an additional one-fourth (k) of the sale price, FIFTEEN THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS and TWENTY-FIVE CENTS ($15 ,250.25) , was to be designated and appropriated for improvements at said cemetery and WHEREAS, said sum intended for cemetery improvements was deposited in an interest bearing account at the Glens Falls National Bank & Trust Company designated as the "Pineview Cemetery Operating Fund" and WHEREAS, the records and minutes of the Town of Queensbury do not reflect that said sum was specifically appropriated and solely designated for improvements at the Pineview Cemetery and WHEREAS, it appears necessarythat said oversight be corrected and that said funds together with all interest accrued thereon be specifically appropriated and designated for improvements of the Pineview Cemetery as originally intednded and agreed. NOT, , THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that all funds on deposit in account with the Glens Falls National Bank & Trust Company be designated as the Pineview Cemetery Operat ing Fund and include accrued interest to date, be specifically 1_,,_ appropriated and designated for expenditure, as necessary and as authorized in accordance with law, for improvements at the Pineview Cemetery. Duly adopted by the following voce: f Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt Noes: None Absent: None RESOLUTION TO APPROPRIATE FOUR THOUSAND ($4,000.00) DOLLARS TO PINEVIEW CEMETERY CONTRACTUAL ACCOUM C2 8810.44 RESOLUTION NO. 126, Introduced by Mr. Daniel Olson who moved its adoption, seconded by Mr. Michel Brandt: 4�3 WHEREAS , by Resolution 125 of May 24, 1977 $15,250. 00 was to be allocated for improvements of said cemmtery, NOW, THEREFORE. BE IT RESOLVED, that $4,000. 00 of this amount be appropriated at this time for Pineview Cemetery Improvements to be placed in Code C2 8810.44. Duly adopted by the following vote : Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt Noes : None Absent None DISCUSSION ANTIRECESSION MONIES COUNCILMAN OLSON- Requested an explanation. SUPERVISOR BRANDT- The Antirecession monies are sometking that Congress saw fit to send to us with a volume of reading on how it can and can not be used and these formulas as we have researched carefully fit the rules and regulations . COUNCILMAN ROBERTSON- Questioned if the Board was under a time limit. . . SUPERVISOR BRANDT- We have two days to qualify. . . COUNCILMAN WALTER- Are these monies in the budget? SUPERVISOR BRANDT- No, we had no wayNtn antidipate them. RESOLUTION TO APPROPRIATE ANTI-RECESSION MONIES SOLUTION NO. 127, Introduced by Mr. Michel Brandt who moved its adoption, seconded by Mr. Robert Barber: WHEREAS, rules and regulations published by the Department of Audit and Control spedify payments received under the program must be obligated or appropriated within six months following receipt thereof, and WHEREAS , the expenditures can be made only for specified expenditures as stated in Sec. 52.40 or Rules and Regulations (Permissible Expenditures) and WHEREAS, Section 52.43 of the Rules and Regulations (expenditure time limitations) states the six month period which begine. the day following receipt of a payment, therefore be it RESOLVED, to appropriate $12 , 331. 78 as follows: Al 1620.44 Building Contractual S 850. 86 Al 3120. 10 Police Personal Service 11 480. 92 12 ,T .. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes : Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt Noes: None ; Absent: None f -, DISCUSSION CETA-Social Security COURC LAM 01.80K_ Questioned the increase in Social Security since the budget was made out? HARRISON WINNIE- These are CETA monies , you are transferring from (Bookkeeper) personnel services CETA to Social Security CETA. RESOLUTION TO AMEND APPROPRIATIONS WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND RESOLUTION NO. 128, Introduced by Mr. Michel Brandt who moved its adoption, seconded by Mr. Hammond Robertson: 44 WHEREAS , a deficit exists within CETA, Title II Social Security Code, A6250. 83, therefore be it RESOLVED, to remove such deficit by transferring $1158.91 from A6250. 1 Personal Services to A6250. 83, Social Security. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes : Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt Noes : None Absent: None RESOLUTION TO TRANSFER FUNDS FROM REVENUE SHARING ACCOUNT TO GENERAL OPERATING ACCOUNT RESOLUTION NO. 129, Introduced by Mr. Robert Barber who moved its adoption, seconded by Mr. Michel Brandt: WHEREAS , New guidelines from Audit and Control gequires us to separate revenue sharing and antirecession monies and WHEREAS, the:- 1(av_� advised us to account for Antirecession funds in the General Operating funds , using segregated codes to account for receipt of monies , therefore be it RESOLVED, to tranfer $12 ,331. 78, from the Revenue Sharing Account Interest Bearing Savings Account, to the General Operating Interest Bearing Savings Account, and accounted for by Audit and Control Guidelines . Duly adopted by the following vote : ' Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt Noes: None Absent: None COUNCILMAN OLSON- Requested that the Board review an application for a mobile home. . . Called on Supervisor Thomas Murphy to discuss the OTB signs in the Northway Plaza. THOMAS MURPHY- The signs which are there now are non-conforming. I am going back to the County Chairman to have both or at least one removed. I want to hear what the Town Board thinks so that I can go back to the county and have one or both of these signs removed. The request should come from the town on this matter. The sign ordinance took years to come about and the state can come in and put two non-conforming sighs without contacting anyone. COUNCILMAN BARBER- I think this matter should be brought before our town attorney and perhaps he can get a memorandum of law pursuant to that. We should see if we can change our ordinance. THOMAS MURPHY- I think the town should notify the county and the OTB association and then I think they will confor� with the request. If they do not do this , then I think we should go to somebody else to see if the can help us . COUNCILMAN BARBER- I do not think that OTB should have any priority. If they refuse to comply then I think we should go to a state level. I support a resolution to be sent to OTB. COUNCILMAN OLSON- I think the Building Inspector should serve them with a letter to explain to them that they are in strict violation. COUNCILMAN ROBERTSON- I think this boare 45 should go on record and introduce a resolution asking the county supervisors to take whateftr steps that they need to take to get these signs tama-,�cdnforming state. Theyshould be made to make the signs in compliance with our zoning ordinance. Copy to the OTB corporation. (Councilman Walter- requested to write cover letter for this resolution) RESOLUTION REQUESTING WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO REQUEST THE OTB CORPORATION TO MAKE THEIR SIGNS IN THE NORTHWAY PLAZR TO CONFORM TO THE TOL,)N OF QUEENSBURY SIGN ORDINANCE RESOLUTION NO. 130 introduced by Hammond Robertson, who moved its adoption seconded by Mic he Brandt. This resolution will be drafted by the Town Attorney and when completed will be found on page 32 COUNCILMAN OLSON- Reviewed the. problem of the Bus Terminal not allowing certain taxi companies on their property for pick up or delivery. . . (Rozell' s) COUNCILMAN BARBER- Has created hardships—noted that he felt one solution would be the licensing of taxi companies and an ordinance by the Town. . . SUPERVISOR BRANDT- Will advise the Zoning Board of Appeals of the problem. . . N.W. BODENWEISER- requested that the signs on buildings that the businesses have closed be removed. . . stated the 30 day time limit for removal of the signs. . . COUNCILMAN BARBER- These will be in compliance. , 6OHNRYTHaR BRANDT- Requested that this be brought before Mr. Liapes and the police force. . . .if that does not work I will be glad to step in. . . COUNCILMAN WALTER- Noted that one of the signs that was mentioned has been reviewed and is being taken up with the attorney of the/owner of the bu&lding. . . ARTHUR TURNBULL- Asked what are the benCits derived from OTB? SUPERVISOR BRANDT- As far as I know they are taxed,but they do not have to comply with the Town Ordinance on Signs. . . LLOYD DEMBOSKI- Suggested as far as the OTB Signs are concerned (17 Hughes Court) is to first do to the member of our Board who serves on the Board of Directors of the Corporate Board of the Capital District Off Track Betting; Corp. , have him carry the message to this Board and see if he can have the signs changed if this does not suceeed then other pressure will have to be applied. THOMAS MURPHY- (Co. Supervisor) I have a particular subject here in which I think the town,again I am going back to the Town Board and asking them for some help. As of yesterday, I sat on the .Refuse Agency committee for the County of Warren that consists of the Town of Queensbury and the City of Glens Falls. As of yesterday, in talking with Mike, at the meeting, I was under the impression that he had approached all members of the Town Board and asked them if somebody would serve after Mr. Robertson resigned, would serve on the Refuse Agency for the County of Warren. At the present time, we are short one man or one woman, whatever, it might be, on the Refuse Agency, representing the Town of Oueensbury. I think we are going to come out of it if we do not have equal representation, that the Town of Queensbury, somewhere down the line is going to come out on the short end of some of the decisions, 46 which are very, very decisive to the people of the Town of Queensbury. I think I am asking again, the Town Board, if there is a possibility that they will come up with a person, a candidate, or a volunteer, or whatever it might be, or a suggestion, so that the County Refuse Agency will have equal representation, along with the City of Glens galls. This is going to sound like a crazy request coming backward, but again, Lime I said, I was told that they did not hale the people, they did not went to volunteer, or there was nobmdy to serve on this committee. Again, I went into the meeting yesterI day, not knowing exactly what was going on because we went into subcommittees which made quite a few rules which I did not like, because, I think the subcommittee should have. come back to the comm- ittee, the total committee, and when I did go in, and also Mr. Nichols from Glens Falls , we found out we got a new manager of the landfill and we had decisions , and the stickers were bought, and they went on and on and on. Again, I jest felt that the subcommittee, when they met last month, was a committee that was supposed to come back as a suggestion to the total committee, and againJI now representative with Mr. Brandt, the only two people versus four people on the city of Tlwns Falls. I think that it is high time that the Town of Oueensbury either had a volunteer or we had equal representation to represent us in the land- fill operation. It is going to be one hell of a thing if this thing is put together and the people of the Town of Queenbury do not have equal rep- resentatmn, or they do not have the input, rep- resentation or input or ideas . I will tell you right now, it is going to be a monumental project .to try and put this damn thing together so that everybody is going., to be happy. I do not know if , everybrody will always be happy, but we do have the people of the Town of Oueensbury. It has been our landfill and I think at the present time it is going around in a circle and it is on its way to being straightened out, but again I think the Town of Oueensbury should have more representation on there, or equal representation, and I am asking the Town Board if there is a possibility if we can get another person to serve, so that we will be able to operate this thing as a joint Glens Falls , Queensbury, Warren County landfill operation. COUNCILMAN OLSON- Tom, can I ask you one question? You spoke about a new operator of the landfill, or superintendent of 'the landfill, is that the title, Superintendent of the landfill? SUPERVISOR MURPHY- I do not know, I was not asked. I am on the committee but I was not asked. COUNCILMAN OLSON- The man had already been hired? SUPERVISOR MURPHY- Been hired. I do not know what the salary is . ARTHUR TURNBULL- The salary is $ 15 ,000. 00 dollars . SUPERVISOR MURPHY- I have no idea of what is going on Dan, we were not told. I thought maybe I missed a meeting but I was not told. The man is hired, he sounds very capable, he is not from Glens Falls or from the Town of Queensbury and if you want to get your little baton up there ,Mike. . . SUPERVISOR BRANDT- I thought maybe I would help you, you know, keep it going. 47 , SUPERVISOR MURPHY- ;think it is great except we still have no input and the man is hired, the landfill is operating. SUPERVISOR BRANDT- Now wait a minute, you were at the meeting and you have input. SUPERVISOR MURPHY- I have input, there is no question about it, not, . . . SUPERVISOR BRANDT- Let' s make that straight. SUPERVISOR MURPHY- Not to the man that was hired. We had no idea, I was not told the man was hired, I never met the man in my life until I walked into the meeting — yesterday. Three men on the subcommittee, and you are one of them, did not go back to the total committee and recommend like they were supposed to before. The man was already hired, and we still do not know. SUPERVISOR BRANDT- Apparently you still do not know.what happened yet Tom. He was not hired by . . . . SUPERVISOR MURPHY- Nobody else does except you and two other people. . SUPERVISOR BRANDT- Maybe that is the way it is . He was not hired. SUPERVISOR MURPHY- That is the way it is. SUPERVISOR BRANDT- He was not hired by the Refuse Agencv. SUPERVISOR MURPHY- Who was he hired by? SUPERVISOR BRANDT- He was hired by the Department of Public Works on a temporary basis . SUPERVISOR MURPHY- This does not go back to the landfill committee. i SUPERVISOR BRANDT- That is correct. The landfill committee has no power at this time to hire. SUPERVISOR MURPHY- Does the subcommittee recommend? SUPERVISOR BRANDT- Did the subcommittee recommend? SUPERVISOR '2RPHY- Who interv*ewed the man. The subcommittee never met the man in their life, .just went up and hired him, right, all through Fred Austin and the DPW. I do not believe that. SUPERVISOR BRANDT- The subcommittee interviewed, as a matter of fact. SUPERVISOR MURPHY- Then it should have gone back to the full committee. All I am saying is that tIa wholg town landfill committee, the town, city committee. . . SUPERVISOR BRANDT- As I told you in the meeting Tom, the agency will have a right to hire and not to hire that man in due time. _ SUPERVISOR MURPHY- Who is the agency? SUPERVISOR BRANDT- You are one of the members. SUPERVISOR MURPHY- That is right, but nobody was informed, the man was already hired, nobody knew what his salary was , It went up to a subcommittee and it was supposed to have gone as a subcommittee, and it was supposed to have gone up as an Advisory committee back there and the whole damn thing was taken care of. SUPERVISOR BRANDT- So what is the whole problem, too much progress? Or what is the problem? SUPERVISOR MURPHY- There is not enough progress , that is the problem. 48 SUPERVISOR BRANDT- If we are through with that, I make a motion that Fran Walter be asked to serve or be our rep- resentative on the Warren County Refuse Agency. ARTHUR TURNBULL- I would like to volunteer for that job. Tom ie asking for a volunteer. SUPERVISOR BRANDT- Wait a minute, please, this is a piece of business, I am looking, is there. . . COUNCILMAN OLSON- Are you introducing this resolution? SUPERVISOR BRANDT- I just introduced that as a resolution. COUNCILMAN OLSON- Then I will second that resolution. SUPERSISOR BRANDT- Motion made and seconded. Is there any discussion `0, on that? COUMfiUM M BARBER- For a matter of record I disqualify myself from all voting. .COUNCILMAN ROBERTSON- I would like to reiterate my comments. Basically I served on the agency and I basically feel that part of what Mr. Murphy is saying is one of the reasons that I elected to resign. I feel that while Queensbury and the City of Glens Falls are the people that are ultimately going to pay the bill on the landfill, it has become a county function, and the county works in an entirely different manner, whether we agree with it or whether we do not, than the town, because it is a bigger group of people, because it has more things , it works on a different system. To try and intermingle those two systems as I personally think, is courting disaster. In the town, there are five of us , we do communicate, we do get to each other, even though one of us may run one committee and one another, so to speak, in general all the other members know what is going on, in the county I understand it gets too unwieldy, so it is still my personal feeling that this belongs as a county function, and I think we have Queensbury Supervisors who are elected by the people, who are very, very capable of representing the interests of Queensbury, on a county Board, and I personally feel that it will work very much stronger, and be a very much better organization within the ouunty structure if the Queensbury Supervisors on the county level represent the town. I have felt that since I started and I have to reiterate my position and I have no axe to grind with any member of- my board here because any of them can do a fine job, but I still. . . SUPERVISOR BRANDT- There is one problem with that Ham, there is a basic agreement between the city and the town in the inception of this , that the members of the regulating agency,or whatever, evolved, would be from the Town Board and two members would be from the city council, and the city has expressed:j to me that they feel that even though you have certain frustrations and co mnents , that it still --,' be maintained to be represented as we had basically agreed in the beginning. That is why I am making that motion. COUNCILMAN ROBERTSON- I understand what you are s;tying to me and I do not take exception to the fact that the agreement was what it is . However, and I do not want to rub salt or go back on a whole lot of things or try and get involved in a city, town argument , however, I can only express my thoughts as I see them for the benefit of the Town of Oueensbury. 49 I have expressed them in that form. While it may change the agreement some, I shall have to basically feel that way. I do not want to rub salt in the city and I do not want to do a whole lot of things , but that is still my profound feeling. SUPER$-ESOR BRANDT- Well, the motion was made. Are there any other discussions on that? COUNCILMAN OLSON- I think I would like to ask Mrs. Walter, since this is the first time I heard about this motion, Fran, would you like to serve on that agency? SUPERVISOR BRANDT- Sounds like a winner, listen to it. COUNCILMAN WALTER- I think it is a very difficult situation to go into something that seems to be floundering. I was not here on its inception. and I do not think I basically agreed -with how it was done, in the beginning. Evidently this was the way it is going to be, if this is the way it is going to be, I do think that we should have equal representation in this joint venture. I have said it before in another situation, I do not like to see Queensbury getting the short end of the stick, and although I do not think that it would be the. . . I do not know,if I am asked to serve Sir, I shall serve. SUPERVISOR BRANDT- Any other comments? COUNCILMAN OLSON- Fran, from the remarks that you have made, and pour interest in town government, since you have been on this board, In looking at at the main thing, salaries , which we just got an enlightenment tonight from a county representative, somewhere in the $15,000.00 range, which our highway superintendent, which makes much less money per year, .and that was running the landfill before and the highway department. I would think that this would fit probably in a good line with your thinking and your feelings. I think the thing is floundering and possibly you could lead some direction to it and you can straighten the damn mess out so that Queensbury does not go down the drain. COUNCILMAN WALTER- Thank you 'very much for your confidence, Councilman Ols6n COUNCILMAN OLSON- One other thing, to .set the record straight Tom, I think you made a statement that all members of the board were contacted, or asked to serve on this. SUPERVISOR MURPHY- That is what he said yesterday. COUNCILMAN OLSON- That is not true because I was never contacted by anybody; County or Town, just to set the record straight.. SUPERVISOR MURPHY- I would like to thank the Board. SUPERVISOR BRANDT- We have not even taken a vote, If you would give us just a few-minutes.to function. We would enjoy that, thank you. COUNCILMAN OLSON- I was approached by two members of the city administration telling me I was on the ad- ministration on ' the reguse agency and I said I am sorry I do not think I am because I have not been told that, and that is where it stands. 50 COUNCILMAN ROBERTSON- Just for the record, if Mrs. Walter is willing to serve, I obviously will support her and she has my 100% support in spite of my comments. COUNCILMAN OLSON- I will support her and I will also be glad to work with her on anything I can. COUNCILMAN ROBERTSON- I will too. RESOLUTION REQUESTING- :WA JM coum SUPERVISORS TO. APPOINT FRANCES WALTER .TG THE WARREN COUNTY REFUSE AGENCY RESOLUTION NO. 131, introduced by Mr. Brandt, who moved its adoption seconded y Mr. Olson WHEREAS, due to the resignation of Hammond Robertson on the Warren County Refuse Agency there is now a vacancy on this agency and WHEREAS, without Mr. Robertson, Queensbury would be only represented by one member. of the Town Board, namely Supervisor Brandt, Now, Therefore be it RESOLVED, that the Town Board of- the Town of 0ueensbury requests that Frances Walter be appointed to the Warren County Refuse Agency. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes : Mr. Olson, Mrs. Walter, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt Noes: None. Absent: None. Abstain: Mr. Barber. SUPERVISOR BRANDT- This is an election year, isn' t it. ARTHUR TURNBULL- I would like to make one comment . You are very well concerned about the fact that we don' t get enough of our taxpayers involved in our government, right, Now, I offered my services as a volunteer because Tow said he was looking for a volunteer. I think I have got enough expertise in forty years of construction work, also working in refuse business like our learned councilman is involved in. I want to know why you had to overlook the fact that I was willing to do this job with the amount of background I got1to give it to one of the councilman. You are removing government, another way of taking -the government away from the people, people who are willing to volunteef to do the job, you do not want them to do it because you want to keep it within your scope so you can control government. SUPERVISOR BRANDT- What job is it that you are talking about? ARTHUR TURNBULL- You are talking about, Tom wanted a volunteer for representation on the Refuse committee, the agency he said he has not got the representation. Am I right Tom, this is what you projected? SUPERVISOR MURPHY- Yes, but, I, this is also, I think, when this was Li formed, I think, it was formed with Town Counsel, the City Counsel, the City Supervisors and the Town Supervisors, and the Mayor and the Supervisor. . . between the two towns for a County landfill agency. At this point, that is the make-up of the landfill agency, so that is the way it is made up to this point, and that is the way the agreement was drawn up and the resolutions were drawn. I think at this point, they do not have anybody f_rm, the outside trying to put this together. I hope eventually we will have somebody from the outside. ARTHUR TURNBULL- You just got finished saying, before , a.-few minutes ago, you were asking for volunteers, and nobody volunteered on that board. You did not get a volunteer to serve , right? THOMAS MURPHY- . -I was asking for volunteers on that board or if they would request a volunteer from somebody else and I memt from the County levet, Now, maybe I did not express myVelf. j ARTHUR TURNBULL- Your expression was not clarified, to satisfy me, lets put it that way. COUNCILMAN BARBER-- Mr. Turnbull, I would like to address myself to you, Sir, I could not have a voice, nor would I have a voice in the last resolution, nor the subject. Due to your keen interest in this town there is a vacancy, in fact there are several vacancies on the Conservation Advisory Council , and I will enter your name in that in recommendation, in nomination, and I will do it in the next meeting. COUNCILMAN WALTER- Mr. Turnbull., I, myself, would be very happy to speak to you and perhaps learn something from your expertise. ARTHUR TURNBULL- Well, this is the point, I am getting at. We ask for help from our taxpayers , when help is offered to volunteer for a job that is being pro- jected to the people, and they offer their services, why should the Council inForporate themselves to take care of this? Now, you have enough things to take care of, and I know you do not have the expertise that I have, along these lines , in forty years of construction business . I am willing to offer my service-s and I want to know,why is it, _ a taxpayer, here for twenty some odd years , I have to be turned down. I want to do a service to the town. COUNCILMAN BARBER- Well , Sir, I think my recommendation, that I just made to you, in fact, would be more challenging then the refuse, because it will not only concern itself with fefuse, but concerns itself with the entire scope, spectrum of environmental aspects of what is coming down, from the government today, from the State and Federal government. Pertaining to the wetland, environmental impact, refuse, as I indicated there, solid waste, liquid waste, ,.a tremendous amount that you could offer here. I think much more so then that one particular area. That is Tahy I will strongly support your nomination if you care to accept. SUPERVISOR BRANDT- Any other comments , questions, dissertation? THOMAS MURPHY- I would again,. like to thank, the Town Board for recommending, Mrs . Walter, and I am sure she will work very well with the refuse agency. Again, I believe the recommendation has to go ffom the Town Board to the County Board for approval. I am sure that it will be approved. SUPERVISOR BRANDT- Anything else? COUNCILMAN Ot @M'w Requested an executive session for per.soval matter. SUPERVISOR BRANDT- I will also exten6 that into a work shop, to dis- cuss the sewer system information. A Special Town Board Meeting will be held on Thursday May 26th at 8: 00 P.M. in regard to the Sewer System information. 52 HAMMOND ROBERTSON- Noted that the Town Board just received from the Engineers , figures on the Queensbury system. . . ARTHUR TURNBULL- Questioned the Board on the cost of the sewer system, both County and Town. . . SUPERVISOR BRANDT- Noted that the cost figures will be brought out at the meeting Thursday. . . ARTHUR TURNBULL- Commented that he felt that someone has been lacks in regard to the project. . . On motion the meeting was adjourned. " Respectfully, --J . Donald A. Chase Town Clerk Town of Queensbury RESOLUTION TO REQUEST WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO REQUEST OFF TRACK BETTING CORPORATION TO 14AKE SIGNS CONFORM TO TOWN OF QUEENSBURY SIGN ORDINANCE RESOLUTION NO. 130, Introduced by Mr. Hammond Robertson who moved its adoption, seconde by Mr. Michel Brandt : 1-711FREAS , the Town of Queensbury has received information and complaints from residents of the Town that the signs constructed and erected at the Off Track Betting Corporation (hereinafter OTB) facility situate in North- way Plaza are invviolation of the Town of Queensbury Sign Ordinance and WHEREAS, no variances or peemits have been granted or issued by the Town of Queensbury or its duly authorized employees , boards or agencies for the construction and erection of said signs and WHEREAS it is the .desire of the Townof. Queensbury to have all signs located in the Town of Queensbury constructed, erected and maintained in accordance with the Town of Oueensbury Sign Ordinance and WHEREAS, the Town Board believes efforts should be made to bring said signs of OTB into compliance with the Town of Queensbury Sign Ordinance and WHEREAS, the Town Board understands that it is without legal authority to compel compliance by OTB with-the Twon of Queensbury Sign Ordinance and WHEREAS, Warren County received and anticipated receipt of financial benefits from the operation of said OTB facility in the Town of Oueensburv, NOW, TTEREFORE,BE IT RESOLVED, that the Warren County Board of Supervisors be requested to request OTB to bring its sign or signs situate within the Town of Queensbury into compliance with the Town of Queensbury Sign Ordinance wnd that a copy of this resolution be su�jmitted to the Warren County Board of Supervisors for its consideration. Duly adopted by the following vote: Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mrss Walter, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt Noes : None Absent: N6ne