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2001-06-25 SP SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING JUNE 25TH, 2001 RES. 268-2707:00 P.M. BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT SUPERVISOR DENNIS BROWER COUNCILMAN THEODORE TURNER COUNCILMAN DANIEL STEC COUNCILMAN TIM BREWER BOARD MEMBER ABSENT COUNCILMAN JAMES MARTIN TOWN OFFICIALS Dave Hatin, Director of Building & Codes Chuck Rice, Facilities Manager Supervisor Brower called meeting to order... RESOLUTIONS Discussion - Demolition and Removal of the Gordon La Barge Structure, 2027 Ridge Road Mr. Dave Hatin, Director of Building & Codes noted that Mr. La Barge came to the Town Office on Thursday and spoke with Chris Round and Craig Brown. Mr. La Barge brought his map with him, apparently they did find a location on his property where he can site a dwelling, possibly without a variance. But again, there was no specific plan presented, it was general talk. I don't know what the intentions are from there, they were waiting to hear back from him which they hadn't as of this afternoon with anything further. Chris did tell him that he basically has two separate issues. One is his future construction plans and the issue on the table right now is the future demolition of the structure and completion of that. The choice is up to the board. The impression that I got from Chris is that he is willing to tear it down but no time tables were discussed. I don't know if you want to extend him the courtesy of another time table or if you want a drop dead date and if it's not done, then authorize one of thetwo contractors to go ahead and do it. Town Board held discussion, agreed not to take any action at this time and requested Mr. Hatin to send Mr. La Barge a registered letter asking him to come to the Town Board Meeting on July 9th so that he can give the board an indication when he expects to have the demolition completed, or if he's not able to make the meeting because of a conflict with work, submit a letter with a deadline date. (Mr. Gordon La Barge entered meeting) Supervisor Brower requested Mr. La Barge to give the board a status of the issue. Mr. Gordon La Barge referred to map of property showing the existing structure and the location of the new proposed structure.... Noted, that he knows he has to get all of it off the property but that he doesn't have the monies to do it all at one time. Mr. Hatin, Director of Building & Codes noted that the proposed structure is a separate issue and can be dealt with tomorrow or three years from now. The existing structure has to be dealt with now because of it's condition and the board is looking for a date that you can live with. Mr. La Barge-I told you, you give me your eighty days, I'll have everything off the property. Mr. Hatin, Director of Building & Codes-Completely gone? Mr. La Barge-Other then the footers. Mr. Hatin, Director of Building & Codes-I'm concerned about the wood structure. Mr. La Barge-If you give me ninety days, I promise you, I'll have the wooden structure off the property. Supervisor Brower-How about ninety days from July 9th? Councilman Brewer-You have until October 9th and if it's not gone, then we have to deal with it. Mr. La Barge-Then you got to take action but I guarantee you, you give me until October 9th, I'll have the wooden structure off the property. Councilman Brewer-Can we come to some kind of a resolution as to when you can knock it down? It would be safer to have it on the ground wouldn't it? Mr. La Barge-This Sunday, I promise you, I will put the structure on the ground. If that's what your concern is, that it's a hazard to somebody, not a hazard to the public because it is not public property, it's private property, I will put the structure on the ground this Sunday. Councilman Brewer-How about a week from this Sunday, then that Monday will be our meeting on the 9th? Mr. La Barge-I'll have it on the ground, I guarantee you that. Mr. Hatin, Director of Building & Codes-And you'll have it hauled away by October 9th? Mr. La Barge-Yes. Mr. Hatin, Director of Building & Codes-Alright. Okay, we'll have this resolution modified and prepared for the July 9th meeting. RESOLUTION AMENDING RESOLUTION NO.'S 182 AND 258 OF 2001 REGARDING HIRING OF PART-TIME LABORERS RESOLUTION NO.: 268, 2001 INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Daniel Stec WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION SECONDED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer WHEREAS, by Resolution No.'s 182 and 258 of2001 the Queensbury Town Board authorized the hiring of temporary, part-time Laborers to work for the sununer, and WHEREAS, the Town Comptroller's Office has advised that the hourly rate of pay for these Laborers shall be at the hourly rate authorized by Town Board Resolution 499,2000 rather than "the hourly rate set forth in the Town's Agreement with the Civil Service Employees Association" as stated in Resolution No.'s: 182 and 258,2001, and WHEREAS, the Town Board wishes to amend such Resolutions accordingly, NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby amends Resolution No. 's: 182 and 258 of 2001 such that the rate of pay for the temporary, part-time Laborers shall be "at the hourly rate authorized by Town Board Resolution 499,2000," and BE IT FURTHER, RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby affirms and ratifies Resolution No.'s 182 and 258 of 2001 in all other respects. Duly adopted this 25th day of June, 2001, by the following vote: AYES Mr. Stec, Mr. Turner, Mr. Brower NOES None ABSENT: Mr. Martin ABSTAIN: Mr. Brewer DISCUSSIONS 2.1 Burke Drive/Burke Circle Street Lights Councilman Turner gave update regarding the street lights for the Burke Drive, Burke Circle area and recommended a street light with short pole at the bus stop... reviewed existing lights and felt there was adequate lighting provided for the area... Town Board held discussion regarding whose responsibility it would be to place the light at the bus stop... 2.2 Salt Sheds on Big Bay Road and Bay Road Councilman Turner spoke to the board regarding the status of the salt sheds... Noted that both sheds are dilapidated and in need of replacement... Referred to figures worked up by Chuck Rice to construct new salt sheds... One being for the Bay Road location which is forty foot wide, forty foot long and twenty-two foot high with a price of around $30,800. The Big Bay Road Location which is forty foot wide, sixty foot long and twenty-two high with a price of $37,200... Councilman Brewer questioned whether it was a budgeted item? Supervisor Brower noted that it was part of the capital plan projects... Supervisor Brower noted that Mr. Round had mentioned the possibility of getting some grant funding and agreed to research the possibility... Mr. Chuck Rice, Facilities Manager entered meeting, reviewed with the board possible building plans and costs involved.... Town Board held discussion regarding funding, whether to bid or do in house and Mr. Rice agreed to research further and bring more information to the uly 9th board meeting. 2.3 Capital Plan Prioritization Supervisor Brower noted, the Capital Plan Prioritization item was combined with the salt sheds because I viewed this as a legitimate priority because of the safety. Chuck had one other issue that would be appropriate to talk about briefly tonight. They have a lift over in the Highway Garage that doesn't work currently and he mentioned it as a safety issue... Mr. Rice, Facilities Manager-A viable solution would be to look at replacing the piston assemblies and utilizing the existing trench that's there, we're talking the same lift replacement... This is the second time this piston assembly has failed, it was replaced the first time and it's failed again. The concern that I have was, number one, the amount of hydraulic fluid that's permeating around this piston assembly... My concern was that if we go planting another piston assembly in the ground, I don't want to have to worry about contaminated soils again. I've been speaking with a gentleman from Challenger and he has a set of specs that they've put together to chamber this rear piston so that it's isolated so that if it did fail again, it's there, it's not going anywhere and he's going to be getting those specs over to me to which I think it's the better way to go. I mean, we've got an existing structure that's in excellent shape. The trench and everything is in excellent shape, there's nothing wrong withit and it will save us some bucks. That's what I'm pursing with that right now... Councilman Brewer questioned the costs involved? Mr. Rice, Facilities Manager-The cost of total replacement would be around thirty thousand and we're looking at probably half of that to replace the piston assemblies... Councilman Brewer questioned the life span? Mr. Rice, Facilities Manager-If you go with the coating on these assembly pistons, you extend the life of these things, ten, fifteen years, twenty years.... Councilman Brewer questioned whether there was any warrantee? Mr. Rice, Facilities Manager-I believe there's a ten year warrantee.... I should have the cut sheets in place in the next week and a half, and then we can move ahead, I feel comfortable moving ahead with that. 2.4 Budget Concerns Supervisor Brower submitted copies of a letter from Dave Decker, member of the Lake George PlaIming For the Future Board looking for the town's portion of the matching fund of seven thousand dollars...As you know, municipalities all over the lake including Queensbury have met for the past year, the plan is to protect the water quality of Lake George for the future. They've received a hundred and ninety-two thousand dollar grant from the Department of State but it's a matching grant and communities around the lake need to share in the sixty-three thousand dollar match. So, there's nine communities around the lake, that means each community would be responsible for seven thousand dollars and they have asked for us a commitment. I wanted you to be aware of it, it's not a budgeted expense because it wasn't known during the budget cycle last year that there was a request for any matching funds for something like this. Councilman Brewer questioned what they're going to do with this money? Supervisor Brower-It's a lake assessment, they're defining the quality of water in Lake George and it's the continued plan to how they're going to improve continued water quality in Lake George.... Councilman Brewer-Are you on the Committee? Supervisor Brower-Yes, I'm on the committee along with all the other supervisors that border the lake, Bolton, Lake George. Councilman Brewer-So, you guys control this money? Supervisor Brower-Yea, I guess we do. Councilman Brewer-Well, if we're going to give seven thousand dollars, I'd like to know who were going to give it to. Supervisor Brower-Well, New York State Department of State, Kevin Millington is from the Governor's Office and I believe he's one of the key guys there in this project. They have a number of projects, Water Quality Management, Stormwater Control, Stream Corridor Management, Wastewater Management, Wetlands Management and Protection, Public Education. They're concerned about the introduction of zebra mussels into the lake. Councilman Brewer-I agree with everything you're saying but who does all this, who facilitates all the stuff that you're going to do? Supervisor Brower-This group. The plan will define the mission of what's going to happen and then the money goes toward remediating many of these issues... If the board does not have any objections, I'll move forward to have the resolution prepared for the next board meeting... Councilman Stec and Councilman Turner agreed. Councilman Brewer-I want to read the report, I would like to know more about whose going to pick what projects and how they're going to be funded and all that. Mr. Rice, Facilities Manager spoke to the Town Board regarding his recent truck purchase that the state is now claiming they never got the order for and therefore the particular truck I was purchasing is no longer available at that price but rather four thousand dollars more... Town Board held discussion and suggested that Mr. Rice try locally to see what he could find in the area that may be available to hirn. Councilman Brewer referred to letter received from Nace Engineering to the Town Board regarding Queensbury Forest, noted they've completed their studies and are ready to go if the board is ready to move forward... Town Board held discussion, agreed to move forward and Councilman Brewer noted that he would make the call in the morning and tell him to go ahead with it. RESOLUTION CALLING FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION RESOLUTION NO.: 269, 2001 INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Daniel Stec WHO MOVED FOR IT'S ADOPTION SECONDED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from Regular Session and enters Executive Session to discuss personnel matters. Duly adopted this 25th day of June, 2001, by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Turner, Mr. Stec, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Brower NOES: None ABSENT: Mr. Martin RESOLUTION TO ADJOURN EXECUTIVE SESSION & SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING RESOLUTION NO.: 270, 2001 INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner WHO MOVED FOR IT'S ADOPTION SECONDED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from Executive Session and enters Regular Session of the Town Board, and BE, IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from their Special Town Board Meeting. Duly adopted this 25th day of June, 2001, by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Stec, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Brower, Mr. Turner NOES: none ABSENT: Mr. Martin No further action taken. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED, DARLEEN M. DOUGHER TOWN CLERK TOWN OF QUEENSBURY