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1988-03-15 ~ 'lOIN PtNfi[)I; JÐMU) Regular Meeting Held: Tuesday, March 15, 1988 at 7: 30 p.m. Present: Hilda Mann, Acting ChainJanan SUSan Levandowski, Acting Secretary Joseph Dybas Victor Macri Peter Cartier R. Case Prime, Counsel Lee York, Senior Planner Mary Jane F. M::Ieller - Stenographer Absent: Richard Roberts, ChaimIan Frank DeSantis Mrs. Mann CRlleð the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. Mrs. M;)eller noted that the voting status for the FebruaJ:y 16, 1988 minutes was inadvertently anitted fran each application. With the following corrections, the minutes stand as written: Site Plan No. 1-88, Approved: Site Plan No. 3-88, Approved: arrl Site Plan No. 4-88, Tabled: all rootions sOOuld state: Passed unaniJlDusly. Mrs. Mann welc:aned Mr. Peter Cartier as a new meni>er of the Queensbury Town Planning BoaJ:d. OLD BUSINESS SITE PLAN lÐ. 39-87- Donald G. Pensel Mrs. Mann stated that this was to re-hear the prof)OSa1. for a prev- iously awroved Site Plan Review on December 15, 1987 (to subdivide the present vacant lot into two lots, which will be used for single fanily dwellings) . The location of the site is northeast of CleveI:àale Road on Route 9L, LR-lA and LC 42-A. Reason for the re-hearing is that notices nust be given to property owners within 500 feet of Donald G. Pensel's property: Tax Map NtJrber: 10-1-11.1. Mrs. Mann referred to a camunication received fran the Adirondack Park Agency which explained review powers in this particular instance, arrl the APA has classified this Site Plan as Class A subdivision according to the APA regulations. Therefore, this Site Plan will be referred to the APA for jurisdiction. Mr. Pensel stated that he had applied for arrl received a per:mit, once he realized the APA letter was received by the BoaJ:d. 1 ,~ After reviewing the permit, Mr. Prime noted to Mr. Pense1 that the communique states that he had applied for and received approval for the creation of a 2 +/- acre parcel. Project Permit 81-5. Mr. Prime sug- gested to the Board, with Mr. Pense1's approval, that the application be tabled until next month, so that the Board would have an opportunity to review the project permit and other pertinent data. Counsel did not feel it would be fair to either Mr. Pensel or the Board to have a hearing at this time based on the information up to this point. Mr. Pense1 did not agree with Mr. Prime's suggestion because the Board had previously approved this Site Plan. However, Mr. Macri pointed out that part of the December's approval was based upon Mr. Pense1 stating that APA was contacted and signed off on the project. This fact can be determined only by studying the recent APA communication. Mr. Macri also advised Mr. Pense1 that all applicable paperwork must be in the hands of the Building and Zoning Department 21 days prior to the applicapt's appear- ance before the Board. It is only during this three-week span that the Board thoroughly reviews the applications. George Pense1, Donald Pense1's son, stated he felt the reason for the re-hearing was because notices had not been sent to neighbors regarding the subdivision. Mr. Macri agreed that was the original intent, until the APA letter was received today. He also pointed out that a Class A sub- division would require an Environmental Impact Statement. Mr. Pense1 pointed out that there has been a great deal of confusion in his attempt to get the property subdivided and receive permission to build, while communicating with the Town of Queensbury and the APA. In addition, he said that notices were not sent out from the Town to the neighbors, so they would have an opportunity to attend the meeting. Mr. Dybas again explained that the notification error was an honest oversight, and that time limitations at tonight's meeting prevent the Board from satisfactorily or fairly reviewing the APA communication received today. Mrs. Isabelle Munoff, neighbor to the northeast of the Pensel pro- perty, stated that neighbors in her area never received notification of either tonight's meeting or the December meeting. She did not know if all the neighbors have been notified. Mrs. Munoff said that she had written correspondence to the Board to advise them of this error and to get information and be informed of what was happening in the neighborhood. The residents feel that they are "in the dark" about what is going on around them. Mr. Macri suggested that the Public Hearing be cancelled, so that the Site Plan could be re-advertised. Mr. Prime did not feel that the Public Hearing had to be cancelled, but that the matter be Tabled until next month, with another publication of the meetings to take place. Mr. Macri moved to TABLE Site Plan No. 39-87, Donald G. Pense1, so that the subject site plan could be re-advertised. 2 ---../ Seconded by Mr. Dybas. Passed Unanimously SITE PLAN NO. 6-87 J- 15-88 Ferraro Entertainment, Inc. d/b/a Skateland of Glens Falls Mrs. Mann stated this was a request for an extension of the Site Plan Approval on March l7, 1987 to construct a water slide and children's go- kart track on the property situated on the west side of Route 9, approx- imately 1.4 miles south of 1-87, Exit 20, HC-15. Cross reference: Area Variance No. 1230, which was approved by the Zoning Board of Appeals on March 18, 1987. Mr. Nealon represented the project, as well as Mr. Anthony Ferraro, President of Skateland. Mr. Nealon explained that they were before the Board approximately one year ago requesting permission to erect a water slide at the existing facility at Skate1and on Route 9. The readying of the site for the slide facility has been undertaken and the site is ready to receive the slide. To refresh the Board's memory of the plan, Mr. Nealon presented a map of the facility. The water slide is positioned on the far westerly end of the property behind the existing rink structures. In the Fall the property was cleared. Due to demands on public resources, in addition to the manufacturing constraints and timetables imposed upon the slide manufacturer, Skate1and has been put in the position where the construction season for this type of facility and the manufacturer's ability to produce the slide did not match Skateland's ability to go for- ward from a financial standpoint. Approval was received today from the consulting engineer who would be responsible for providing to the erecting contractors specifications for the slide and landing pool. Delivery of the slide is to be on or about April 1. Mr. Nealon said that there is not enough time to get the work done within the constraints of the approval granted by the Zoning Board on March 18, 1987. The reason for appearing before the Planning Board is to receive an extension (Exhibit A). Mr. Prime advised Mr. Nealon that the Planning Board does not have the jurisdiction to extend the variance. Mr. Nealon said that he was advised by the Town Planner that he had to appear tonight, as well as before the Zoning Board of Appeals. Mr. Prime stated that the only thing tonight's Board can do is to allow Skate1and to go ahead with the basic site plan filed and then go before the Zoning Board on March 16, 1988. Mr. Macri was advised that the building permit had not been received. Mr. Ferraro confirmed that the only thing that has been done is clear the 3 '--' --' site, and that he believed construction drawings were needed before obtain- ing a building permit. He is still waiting for these drawings, which will be mailed out from the slide manufacturer within the week. Public Bearing Opened Fred Liebel, Glens Falls Independent Living Center. Mr. Liebel requested to know how many parking spaces would be avail- able for the handicapped. Answer: Two. Mr. Liebel was informed that there were stairs only to access the slide. Public Heariu. Closed Mr. Macri questioned as to whether there were changes in the plan pre- sented at this meeting, in comparison to the original plans (ie: handi- capped parking added). Mr. Nealon verified that the plan presented at this meeting is the plan that has been used. Mr. Ferraro's philosophy is providing a quality site for entertainment of families and the population in the area. In addition, they will do as much as possible to provide handicapped access for parking, etc. Mr. Nealon apologized that this type of necessity was omitted originally. There are a total of 100 park- ing spaces and that two would be sufficient for the handicapped persons. Mr. Nealon also verified to Mr. Macri that there should be a letter in the file from the Beautification Committee. Mr. Dybas moved APPROVAL of Site Plan No. 6-87, Ferraro Entertain- ment, Inc. having met the requirements of the Board and the Town Board, and that two additional handicapped parking spaces be provided. Mrs. Mann seconded. Passed unani.ous1y SITE PLAN NO. 31-87 Day's Inn; David Kenny Mrs. Mann stated this HC-15, whose application existing motel. was the former Hi-Way Host Motel, Route 9, was for revised plans of the addition onto the Mr. David rearrangement east side. McCormack. Kenny represented the project and stated his proposal is the of the parking from the north side of the building to the This has been accomplished with a trade in land with Tom The green area is still 21X to 27X. There is a 50 foot buffer 4 '--' ,~' area between the that will remain Outlet. back of the parking lot and future Court House Estates green; 50 foot buffer at the back of Adirondact Factory In answer to Mrs. Mann's question regarding parking, Mr. Kenny said there are 20 more parking spaces. Mr. Charles Scudder, Consulting Engi- neer, confirmed by letter that the addition of the parking spaces and the layout design is a significant improvement. Mr. Kenny informed Mr. Fred Leibel, of Glens Falls Independent Living Center, that there will be five spaces for handicapped parking. Mr. Kenny responded to Mrs. Mann's inquiry regarding changes since the last approval and said that, if anything, the building is smaller than the approved site plan review and will have a less intense use. Also, the parking locations have been changed. When the plans were computed and the stakes were set, it was realized that the bUilding could be made smaller and have the same use. Mr. Scudder, Consulting Engineer, said he did not pick up the changes. Mr. Kenny acknowledged to Mr. Macri that the orig- inal building was 65 feet and is now 60 feet. Mr. Macri reminded the applicant that any revisions and applicable paperwork must be in the files 2l days prior to appearance before the Board, in order to receive a review; that the only item on tonight's agenda was the parking lot reloca- tion. Mr. Prime asked if the right of way on the north side of the property was on the Site Plan. Answer: Yes. Prime: Does it show that it leads to the Court House Estates' property? Answer: Yes. Mr. Prime: Have arrange- ments been worked out with the property owner on the north as to access to that property? There is a right of access to using that right of way, have you spoken to him about it? Answer: We have spoken about it. Mr. Prime: What is your arrangement? Answer: He is going to have a curb cut into his property from the right of way. Mr. Prime: It does not show on this plot plan? Mr. Kenny said that he has sold the feed of the right of way to Tom McCormack; however; he has a right to use it. Mr. Prime re- minded Mr. Kenny that still to be put on the plot plan is the access to the property to the north. Mr. Kenny disagreed because it is not his property. Mr. Prime asked if he had any plans to use it for access to the motel. Answer: Basically, no. It is a right of way to the back eight acres (owned by Kenny), but it is not part of this particular plot plan. He did acknowledge to Mrs. Mann that there will be an opening from the motel to the right of way. Mr. Prime still felt that the plot plan should show what the access is to the property to the north, where the curb cut it. Mr. Scudder said Brock's property (to project was approved. vious meeting at which present at this meeting supposed to have access he knew of the use of the right of way, because Mr. the north) was being considered earlier and that Mr. Brock said he did not get notice of the pre- the right of way was discussed, and that he is to see what happened. Mr. Brock said he is to his property through the right of way and 5 '--' wanted to see what could be worked out. He mentioned he felt the original intent was to keep the property line from the existing northern building 30 feet instead of 20 feet (as did the County Planning Board); however, running the roadway will bring the building to within 20 feet. There is only 30 feet to work with on the right of way. Therefore, he would like to know l) if the roadway is going to run within 20 feet of the existing building, what does that mean as far as anything else goes; ie: addition to the building, does that mean that 20 feet is all right for putting in a roadway, and 2) where are the curb cuts going to be in the roadway? Mr. Prime pointed out the Mr. Brock that the roadway has always been there, it has always been a right of way, and the location and width has not changed. Therefore, owners on all sides have to work around the right of way. Mr. Scudder felt that the 30 foot dimension does not change from Mr. Brock's building to the right of way, nor as far as the County is con- cerned. Mr. Scudder pointed out to the Board and the property owners that it has to be remembered that all three projects together were being consid- ered together some months ago: Kenny, McCormack and Brock. Then Mr. Brock pulled his project out, for the time being, and track has been lost of its progress. Mr. Kenny said he feels that Tom McCormack has the curb cuts on his plot plan to the property in the back, and that he (Kenny) cannot designate as to where to put them; however, Mr. Prime felt they should still be there. Mr. Brock questions, the way he is using the property now and the way the parking lot is situated right now (about 15 feet of paved of area which comes to the right of way), how he is going to make boat turns in relation to the present building, if the area is cut down to a 19-odd feet opening. Mr. Scudder said that the problem is there because the building is too close to the right of way. Mr. Brock pointed out he is supposed to have a right of way through this and, if the curb cuts are put in so that this can still be done, there will not be a problem as the property is presently used. However, if a straight line is used for the right of way, then the boats cannot be moved. Mr. Scudder mentioned to Mr. Brock that it was difficult to discuss his problem, because there are no plans available. Mr. Prime agreed. Mr. Brock said he is not talking about the project, but talking about the way the property is right now. Mr. Macri asked if he is talking about the existing building, the stated setback from the new access road, and requested Mr. Sudder to look at that and make sure that a specific setback is maintained from the access road to the building. Mrs. Mann pointed out that the original intent was not for turning around boats; but Mr. Brock said he has rights and shares in the use of the right of way. In answer to Mr. Scudder as to how he comes by that right, Mr. Brock said it is in his deed. Mr. Kenny affirmed that an explanation regarding the use of the right of way is in the deeds, and that it is for an access to the eight acres in the back, and not for going through parking lots. The right of way is to be owned by the "fee and simple" person in the back (was Mr. Kenny). Mr. Brock's deed has use of the of the right of way, it does not say he can have walkway use over it and the primary use of the roadway is 6 from Route 9 to the back of the property. Mr. Brock pointed out to Mr. Prime that he would not need use of the right of way from Route 9 because his property borders Route 9. In answer to Mrs. Mann regarding the reason he would need a right of way to get to his property, Mr. Brock said that, when they divided the land and the buildings were there, it gave him the right of way down through the strip, so that he could use the rest of his property and there was also the right of way to the eight acres in the back, which Mr. Kenny purchased and was shared with him - Mr. Kenny payor of the fees and also Niagara Mohawk running power. A further discussion continued at the dais regarding the placement of the curb cuts at Brock's property; one in the back where it is paved and one in front. Mr. Scudder strongly felt that Mr. Brock should submit a plan with his property useage and accessib1ity onto his property from the right of way. However, Mr. Brock said his plan is with the existing use of the property and that he is not proposing anything other than what he is doing right now. Mr. Macri felt that the existing problem is that Mr. Brock has access to the right of way and, as far as he is concerned, it is unlimited and the Board has taken the right of way as limited access. He does not feel the Board can address that. Mr. Scudder said the wording is cryptic and hard to say what is right and wrong, except that Mr. Brock has some access. Mr. Brock asked if there is problem putting the curb cuts in at the back of the building? Answer: Yes, because, if this is going to be an access road (even limited) to a subdivision in the back, the Board does not want cars and boats backing in and out. It would create a hazard. Returning to the original intent of Mr. Kenny's application, Mr. Dybas pointed out that the building was revised by 840 square feet. Mr. Macri pointed out that technically a stop-order could be issued until the matter was settled. As Consulting Engineer, Mr. Scudder said his personal feel- ings were that Mr. Kenny is to be more careful in the future, but that this should be approved. He does not feel that the lesser intense use is a problem as far as the site plan is concerned. When asked his opinion, Mr. Prime stated that if it is not substantial in terms of the plans that are filed, and if the developer agrees to file as built plans, then he feels it could be passed. Mrs. Levandowski said that the application has not been reviewed with the Warren County Planning Board. Mr. Kenny pointed out that he was not advised by the Building and Zoning Department that an appearance was necessary, even though he had spoken to the members of the department. Ms. Lee York, Town Planner, said there was an error within the department and that Mr. Kenny will be put on the County agenda. She said it is the applicant's responsibility to talk directly only to the administrators, so the correct information can be received. Mr. Kenny asked future, he should person to whom he used was 50 foot if he would have to have another review if, in the decide to sell a portion of his property, or would the sold the property have to come in for review. Example for a roadway for Tom McCormack, Court House Estates. 7 -' Answer: Mr. Macri felt that that was a decision that the Building Depart- ment would have to make. However, Mr. Macri and Mrs. Mann felt that he would have to come before the Board, but was advised to secure an attorney for the correct information. She also emphatically suggested to Mr. Kenny that he was to present himself to the Warren County Planning Board with all the information that has been done up front, they will review the situation, and in turn will send the recommendation to the Planning Board, and then the Planning Board will review the project again. In the mean- time, he is to check all facets of the project, including with the Board's engineer so that he understands everything that has been done. Mrs. Levandowski moved to TABLE Site Plan No. 31-87, Day's Inn, until the applicant appears before the Warren County Planning Board. Seconded by Mr. Macri. Passed: 4 Yes (Levandowski, Dybas, Mann, Macri) 1 Abstain (Cartier) SUBDIVISION NO. 7-84 Court House Estates, Section III Mrs. Mann stated that this was for FINAL APPROVAL for 49 lots at the north end of Courthouse Drive, SFR-30. (Note: Preliminary Approval for 60 lots was given December 15, 1987.) Mr. Jeffrey Martin of Coulter & McCormack, licensed land surveyors, represented Andrew and John McCormack. The project was 49 lots, single family, residential sub-division. He confirmed that there were no changes of which the Board was unaware. He spoke with Brian Fear of the State Health Department, who has reviewed the project, but the formal letter has not been submitted. There was one comment, which has been addressed by Charles Scudder, and that is that the water main be looped connecting the subdivision along the 30 foot roadway to the Town's 12 inch main out on Route 9; thereby providing a second means for getting water into the sub- division. Mr. Scudder's letter to the Board has confirmed this (Exhibit B). Mr. Scudder noted a typographical error that the type of gravel should be: Sub-base minimum depth, 12 inches, #4. That change has been made. Mr. Martin referred to a meeting with Mr. Flaherty regarding his letter to the Board (Exhibit C). Mr. Martin said all requested changes have been made, and the final map has been prepared. Mrs. Levandowski road (Exhibit D). read Mr. Paul Naylor's comments regarding the access Mr. Martin approached the subject of dry wells in the 8 subdivision. All of the ones that are along the road or even near the road will call for steel-reinforced concrete for extra strength for high- way traffic. There are three dry wells that are no where near a road, and Nick Scartelli of Morse Engineering (designer) did not see a need for rein- forced steel traffic-type catch basins in the isolated area; therefore, there will be corregated metal pipe which is cheaper, easier to install and was felt that the need would be adequately served. Mr. Scudder asked the following questions: 1) the comparative cost; 2) necessity for traffic covers (which Mr. Scudder feels are unnecessary); and 3) what kind of covers would be put on the steel? Messrs. Scartelli and Naylor affirmd that the three triangle basins should be concrete. This was agreed. Mr. Martin affirmed to Mr. Dybas that the water main connection referred to by the Health Department ,was agreed upon and will be made. There is no problem with the water supply for sewage disposal. The access road was reviewed. Mr. Naylor said the only road he has discussed with the Town is a road going out to Glen Lake Road. There was some discussion with John McCormack thereafter about a road going out to Routes 9 or 149. Mr. Naylor said there were many ways to do that; how- ever, in his view the original idea was the best idea, which was across the Warren County Building area. Mr. Macri stated that the idea was re- jected by the Warren County Board; but Mrs. Mann said there were two committees who were in favor of that proposal. Since that time, Mrs. Mann said the Board had hoped for a road that would blend in with the Mall pro- jects, and that it would be used by residents living in the subdivision. It would be situated in such a way that the general public (tourists, etc.) would not realize its existence. This would also be a second area for emergency vehicles, etc. They agreed it was supposed to stay private; however, they have reservations because of the useage of the northern property owner, Mr. Anthony Brock. Mr. Macri emphasized that the access road is private to the developer only (Tom McCormack), not to the indivi- duals on the road. Mr. Naylor asked if they can get a 50 foot right of way, because that is what the Town requires. Mr. Martin: No, because the McCormack's own only 30 feet; also that that amount was set up over 15 years ago and at that time the option to purchase did not exist. In answer to Mrs. Mann, Mr. Naylor said that the average of the subdivision roads in town are 20 feet of blacktop with 5 foot shoulders. Mr. Martin said that there will be a pavement offset; to the south side there will be the property line; a one foot to the edge of the pavement, Niagara Mohawk will be in there; a 24 foot paved surface; then 5 feet. The water line will be in the 5 feet out of the roadway. Mr. Martin presented an appro- priate map to Mr. Naylor for his review and this was discussed at the dais. In regard to Mr. Brock's right to the right-of-way, Mr. Martin repeated again that he has a right of way over the piece of property for ingress and egress. However, Mr. Macri said there was already a specific discussion as to whether there would be one or two cuts along the side of the road, and that Mr. Brock has basically stated that he has full access 9 ~~ to the right of way. Mr. Prime questioned as to whether that was correct. Mr. Prime corrected that to be to the end of his (Brock's) property, not beyond his property. Mr. Martin said there should be no attempts to deny him that access and, until he presents specific plans, the specific curb cuts cannot be determined, whether his access can be restricted to several curbs, or whether he is entitled to the entire piece. It is a legal ques- tion and it is a problem to be resolved among the land owners. Mr. Macri said it is a problem that must be resolved by showing to the Board whether there will be one or two cuts and where they are going to be, prior to the Board approving the road. Mr. Prime asked for the deed to the Kenny to McCormack property. Mr. Brock said his deed described access, the total that he shares, and gives the footage, angles, etc., 82 feet in and 30 feet in the back. Mr. Prime was in some disagreement with Mr. Brock, in that the deed accepts the right of way and in Tom McCormack's deed it gives Brock access in specific places. They are not described, but Mr. Prime felt there was a limited access, and he stressed the importance of the deeds. Mrs. Mann asked Mr. Brock, if there was an agreement between him, aDd Messrs. Kenny and McCormack, would he be agreeable to limit himself to an access that can be used by him and then would make this road usable. Mr. Brock said he is looking for a workable situation so that he can get in and out of his pro- perty where he has to, in order to function the way he is functioning now. This may mean three curb cuts, depending on the size, and his pro- perty is about 500 feet deep. Per Counsel's permission this application was temporarily adjourned at this time to recess to another room, so that Messrs. Brock, McCormack, Kenny, Naylor, Martin and other pertinent persons could discuss the right of way, in an attempt to reach an amicable solution. Upon reconvening, Mr. Martin summarized the meeting. For four years Tom and John McCormack have investigated just about every possible way to get a second road in and out of the subdivision. They ended up with a road system for the 49 lots that technically complies with the Town regula- tions. In an attempt to improve the situation and as given Preliminary Approval by the Board in Decmember, a 30 foot wide private road out to Route 9 was proposed. It is 30 feet wide because that is the width of the existing right of way. As a result of tonight's discussion of the three landowners, Messrs. Brock, Kenny and John McCormack, there has been an agreement to get to- gether and negotiate in good faith to widen the right of way to 50 feet, at which time it could be turned over to the Town as a public road. There already is a water main that the Town Water Department is insisting be put in place. With the water main, it means that the title to the main has to be turned over aDd a right of way of the strip of land has to be given to the Water Department for maintenance purposes. The Power Company has insisted that power is connected through that area, so a right of way has to be given to them in order to place and maintain their cable. The door 10 has started to open regarding the useage of the right of way. The owners have agreed to discuss a n\l1ber of different ways this could be done: there ate many aspects involved including banks involved with nDrtgages on pr:operties, other owners (partners). Mr. Martin :further stated that it is physically possible to do this. Mr. Macri wanted to know what that proposal does to the setback of the adjacent property. Mr. Martin said it depends upon 00w neg>tiations çp, bJw many feet is :œœived fran one, 00w many fran another: there is :roan to expand on Mr. Kenny's property witb:>ut getting into the setback questions, but can also expand into Mr. Brock's property. This proposal was also discussed with Mr. Naylor, and the general feeling is that there is a way to widen the right of way and keep the 24 foot wide pavement, the water line and the power line all in the relatively correct position. The 24 foot pavement may not end up exactly in the center of the right of way. The question of access points was also discussed and placement for them on Mr. Brock's land. He is not requesting unlimited acoess along the full length of the property. Having unI:imi.ted acoess along the full length of the property would inpede his useage in the property and also for the other landowners. At saœ point in the future, there will be a pzoposal for the use of the property and, at that time, specific foDnal location of the cum cuts will have to be decided. Right now, there ate two large cum cuts, one in the front and one in the back behind the build- ing to provide reasonable acoess, which will limit the flow of traffic. until Mr. Brock has a I1Dre definite .idea of exactly what he wants to do, it is difficult to define exactly where the cum cuts will çp and the size. Mrs. Mann stated that she would like to see a drawing of the road sOOwing within reason the cuts and what the road is çping to look like. It will also be necessary to sOOw a written agreerœnt with all parties involved. John McCOJ:mack, co-owner of Court House Estates, stated that what has been established at this meeting is a Cû~n.ise to down road perhaps create a position where this private road now could be tumed dawnstreën into a public road. There ate many variables involved. The owners have canplied to the Board through the last m:mth' s preliminary approval to canplete in drawing fom and accessibility fran two entrances into the developœnt. All that is being said now is that it is in the owners' best interests to work with Mr. Kenny, so he has acoessibility to his back acreage: work out a plan where this could be tumed into a public road. The owners do not want this to be a deterrent against :œœiving F:i.nal Approval fran the Board. Mrs. Mann disagreed with Mr. McCo:r:mack stating that the private right of way and the cum cuts ate a critical part of the subdivision and read fran the DecE!rIber 15, 1987 minutes the section which ðß)lied to this 11 --./ ~, particular topic. Mr. Macri said that the road was physically installed so that the property could be utilized and would be a safe access to the property in case of an emergency. This was expressed in the last meeting, whether the road was public or private, that the Board's concern was a haphazard egress along the road. Also discussed were STOP signs in cer- tain locations to slow down traffic through the development. As far as he is concerned, the premise of the private road is acceptable to the Board as shown by the Preliminary Approval, but that the owners have not fin- ished what they promised to do. Mr. Macri suggested that the involved parties read the minutes to determine what was said. Mr. Scudder, Consult- ing Engineer, agreed to Mr. Mann that he would review the proposal. rV-J;) to TABLE Subdivision No. 7-84 for FINAL APPROVAL, Section III, pending resolution of the curb cuts and ."{~ Mr. Macri moved Court House Estates, access road. Seconded by Mr. Dybas. Passed uaaai....1y SUBDIVISION NO. 9-87 ~ ,.(/ß 3/ µ Westwood, Phase II Mrs. Mann stated this was FINAL APPROVAL for 32 units for multi-family dwellings on G1enwood Avenue, west of Quaker Road, UR-5. Mr. Ted Bigelow of Woodbury Lumber and Mr. Nick Scartelli of Morse Engineering represented the project. Mr. Bigelow stated that there is one, small engineering change, of which Mr. Scudder has been apprised. To review, Final Approval had been received on the first phase, which was 16 units; and Preliminary Approval on the second phase, which was 32 units. 12 of the 15 units have been constructed in the first area, and the last building in the first phase will be constructed as soon as the frost is out of the ground. Mr. Bigelow said that the change involves the sanitary system in Section I, which fronts on G1enwood Aveue to the south of Phase II. When Kestner reviewed the first phase, there was not sufficient cover over the sanitary lines; therefore, the sanitary system will be lowered. There is a septic system designed on the side for the interim period. Then the flow gravity system will be put into the present system. In order for the back system to flow gravity all the way to G1enwood Avenue, the entire site would have had to be picked up aaother 2 1/2 feet, in order to get sufficient coverage. Essentially what has been done is a re-creation of Phase II and installed a pump, which pumps from the first phase, which will be re-insta11ed in the pumping station in the second phase. From that point on, it will flow into the main systea. 12 '--- In answer to Mr. Macri, the permanent pumping station will be in the back, the front section will remain gravity. The pumping station will be maintained by the Westwood Homeowners' Association, as are the roads and utilities. That was the approval in the beginning and in the offerring plan. Mr. Bigelow said that the roads and utilities were built to Town specifications to make it more palatable. Mr. Macri felt that the on-site maintenance was until the site was connected to the Queensbury sewer system, at which time the sanitary lines would be taken over by the Sewer Department. Mr. Bigelow disagreed and reiterated that all utilities would be maintained privately. Mr. Scartel1i did mention that the reason that the septic system was used in the first place was because construction could begin in 1987, and there would not be a wait for the public system. Mrs. Levandowski read a letter from Charles Scudder (Exhibit E). Mr. Bigelow mentioned that the septic system is designed to handle the 16 units in Phase I. CO's are not being requested for any of the build- ings. There is no hardship because nothing has been changed from the beginning. Mr. Macri did not feel the intent was to allow start of Phase II construction until the sewer system was in, and he will not now agree to the contrary. Mr. Dybas agreed. To answer Mr. Scudder, Mr. Bigelow said they want to build the buildings, so that when the system comes on line, which is projected to be around August, and that when the sewer ties in the developer can be given CO's and can sell the units. Mr. Scudder does not have a problem with that; no discharge of waste water from this phase can take place until there are usable public sewers. Mr. Bigelow reiterated that their plan was to get the second phase site plan approved, begin construction on the buildings during the summer, and then tie in. He emphasized that an entire construction season would be lost, if the developers were to wait until the sewer system was in. Minutes from the May 19, 1987 and June 16, 1987 meetings were discussed by Messrs. Macri and Dybas (Exhibits F & G). In addition, Mr. Scudder pointed out that Mr. Dickinson was opposed to using their scheme of pump- ing to a septic tank, which would dose the engine system because it is not good practice. The argument was that it was only going to be for a year and then it would be abandoned, which was done. Mr. Scarte1li emphasized that they built and designed the system for 16 units; in fact, the units are not occupied as of yet (maybe in about three weeks). The other two buildings will not be ready for occupancy for about two months. The fourth building has not been started, so at most it will be one to two units dumping into a system that is designed for 16. The developers are not asking that any of the the Phase II units tie into that septic system. The point of the problem is that the second phase units have to go into the public sewer and that is being agreed to. However, the question is still raised as to whether there was a previous stipulation preventing construction of the Phase II units until the sewers were in. The answer was not found in the minutes of Kay or June of 1987 and tapes were not secured for the meeting. Mr. Bigelow asked Mr. Macri if it isn't the developers who are taking 13 the risk. Mr. Macri answered negatively and felt that it is the Town that is taking the risk, especially if the Town lines do not meet the Westwood timetable and there is occupancy. However, Mr. Bigelow said that there will be no occupancy, because they cannot sell until a CO is received. Mr. Macri said there can be speculation, there does not have to be a sale, but options can be taken on the buildings. Mr. Scudder asked what the offering plan said about the sewage collec- tion system. Did it speak to the pumping station? Answer: No. There is an amendment being filed with the Attorney General because there will be electricity used. It was affirmed that, before anybody buys a unit, they will be able to read that there will be a pumping station. Currently the Homeowners' membership is $109.28/month projected cost. The cost for running the pumps has to be added into the monthly fee and has to be part of the contract. There is a system available for the first 16 units. It is a temporary system which is good for one year. It is temporary only because there is a public system coming through and it is desisned to be permanent. Mr. Scudder said it is not desisned to be permanent because the sewage is being pumped into the septic tank instead of the leaching system. This is poor practice. Mrs. Mann asked if it is not good prac- tice, would it last beyond one or two years? Answer: It would not be good to figure it for 5 or 10 years. It would have to be rebuilt. Mrs. Mann: The ground is not going to close down on G1enwood Avenue? Answer: No. Mrs. Mann: It could be maintained and used for 16 units if the sewers never came down Glenwood? Answer: No. If the system failed it would have to be rebuilt. Mrs. Mann: The land is there and it can be done? Answer: Yes. Hr. Macri: The land is there if the other property is not devel- oped. Mrs. Mann: With the land that is presently owned, is there acreage available to feed other units? Mr. Scudder: I presume so, but I do not know what is available because I did not look at the Master Plan. I cannot say that there is not enough land. Mr. Macri discussed a percu1a- tion problem. In this respect, Mr. Priae felt that the developer would be required to build a sewer to the closest connection point on Bay Road himself and use the sewer system. Mr. Bigelow said that they would agree to that. The property is already owned by the developers, was going to be used for offices; however, if it is needed for sewers, this would be done. Hr. Ron Montessi pointed out that Contract 5 and 6 have been left for sewers Contract 5 including the subject area. There is a pumping sta- tion going in by Smith Equipment, so that the ground will be broken within the next month and the sewer lines will be in the ground. In the interim, C. R. Bard is now hooked into the Town lines and they are awaiting the pump station final testing, which will happen on Meadowbrook Road in the next week. As soon as that happens, C. R. Bard will be on line and sewage to the treatment plant. It is Hr. Montessi's understanding the pumping station within the subject area was designed to handle only the first units. Everything else cannot go on to that system. The worst scenario is that the pipes do not get into the ground. 14 '-- Mr. Dybas moved APPROVAL of Subdivision No. 9-87, Westwood, Phase II, FINAL APPROVAL, with the understanding that the second phase units will not receive occupancy until they go on public sewers, either G1enwood or Bay, whichever becomes available, and that Mr. Scudder will have to approve the water system. Seconded by Mrs. Mann. No vote. There was not a majority of the Board. 3 Yes (Levandowski, Dybas, Mann) 1 No (Macri) 1 Abstain (Cartier) The application will be put on the April agenda. NEW B1JSIDSS SITE PLAN NO. 5-88 William H. Walker, Sr. Mrs. Mann stated this site is located 3/4 of a mild north on Pilot Knob Road on the left side, LR-1A. The proposal is to demolish the Dorm. The Cabin will be temporarily kept for storage of materials. A small two-bedroom guest house will be built on the site of the Dorm. When the small house is complete, the cabin will be razed and the space will be used for parking for the big house. Mr. Walker represented the project. He explained that the Dorm has one large sleeping room upstairs, with six beds. The cabin has one bedroom, full bathroom, kitchen. Hr. Walker consulted with Mack Dean as to the feasibility of the present plan, and Mr. Dean felt it was good. The proposed ranch-style, one-floor cottage is 26 feet x 36 feet and includes two bedrooms, one kitchen, one bath and one living room. The present water and sewer facilities from the cabin go into the septic system and come from the well, which services the house. When the house was built the septic system was replaced 27 years ago with a 1,000 gallon tank, the same dry well is there and an additional drain field was put in at the edge of the property with a sump. The sewerage does go into the septic tank before it is pumped into the drain field, and the sewerage system has never failed. Mr. Walker is willing to sign a form attesting to that fact. Mr. Walker said the property is occupied year round and encompasses just under one acre - approximately 200 feet x 170 feet. The cottage will 15 ,-. ~' be used only for family and will not be used year round. The main house has three bathrooms. Mr. Prime pointed out to the Board that Mr. Walker is restructuring as he is not adding any more bathrooms, bedrooms, space; it is basically the same as what is there now. Mr. Walker is entitled to what he has there now. He does not need a variance to rebuild the build- ing. Mrs. Mann felt adamantly that putting two residences on a single lot is contrary to what the Board is attempting to accomplish in the Lake Shore area, which is to limit the number of principle dwellings on a single lot. If it can be done legally without the Board's sanction, that is O.K. Mr. Walker disagreed because he feels that the guest house is not a principle dwelling. To justify Mr. Walker's appearance before the Board, Mr. Prime referred to the Zoning Ordinance, Section 9.010, . . . ."nonconforming use may be continued and maintained in reasonable repair, but may not be altered, enlarged or extended . . .except by site plan approval "In acuality Mr. Walker is doing all three and that basically is the reason for his appearance. It is a nonconforming overuse of a lake shore property by our zone, but it is grandfathered. He is not expanding the use, he is altering the use. It must be approved by the Planning Board's site plan. Public Hearia¡ Openei Matt Ludemann: Mr. Ludemann asked that Mr. Prime clarify exactly what it is that the Board is deciding on so that a public meeting can be held. Mrs. Mann explained that what the Board is considering is the site plan review which is for the demolishment of two buildings that exist, that are in bad/poor condition and which house several more people than would the proposed building, and consolidate into one cabin that would have two bedrooms, kitchen and living room; and that small house would be of a nice, modern construction. The Board can consider that this is a less intense use (one building instead of two); or another viewpoint that can be considered is that the Board passed a law in the Lake George area where there would be one acre per dwelling. One reason is to protect the water policy for septic systems. Mr. Dybas emphatically stated a concern of some of the Board members which is the condition of the present septic system and is it, in fact, draining properly. It is important for the Board to be critical of itself for approving this type of a project, because of setting a precedence. Mrs. Mann stated that one of the new requirements will be a testification to the fact that there is a septic system, date of installment, gallon capacity, etc. Mrs. Levandowski read a letter of approval from a neighbor. Mr. and Mrs. Phillips, neighbors to the south commented that they have 1.226 acres with one prinicp1e building, no cabins, etc. 16 "'--' ---' Mrs. Levandowski completed the Site Plan Review. A3.: Size is about 900 square feet, approximately the same. AS: 2 buildings instead of 3. E1: Driveway will be blacktop. Would not interfere with drainage. The Board suggested that Mr. Walker contact Dan Olsen regarding a septic system inspection. J5: Two principle dwellings on a single family lot. Mr. Walker contested that statement, as he does not consider the guest house a principle dwelling. K2: Warren County approved with modified conditions: "that the septic system be checked to insure compliance with the sanitary code." Public Bearing Closed. Mr. Dybas moved APPROVAL of Site Plan No. 5-88, William H. Walker, Sr., with the stipulation that the septic system be proved its worth before a building permit be issued, and the proof be certified to the Building Department by a licensed professional engineer. The certifi- cation must include that the capacity of the tank can meet the number of bathrooms. Seconded by Mrs. Levandowski. Passed Votes: 4 Yes (Levandowski, Dybas, Macri, Cartier) 1 No (Mann) SITE PLAN NO. 6-88 Grossman's, Inc. Mrs. Mann announced that this application has been withdrawn. SITE PLAN NO. 7-88 Joseph and Susan Archino Mrs. Mann stated this to be a proposal for construction of a duplex house on Ridge Road, Route 9L, SR-30. Mr. Joseph Archino represented the project and presented a proposal to build a duplex house on Mr. Jerry Howe's presently owned land. The land is within the codes set by the Town of Queensbury, the construction is drawn within the codes and regulations drawn by the Town of Queensbury as is the septic system, setbacks, and boundry limitations. Public Beari.. Opened 17 -' Jerry Beckwith: Mr. Beckwith stated he lives in the :imœd.iate neighborOOod am his understanding is that the proposal is for a two fanily dwelling in a single fanily neighborhood. Further he said, since the proposal is a two-fëmily dwelling on a single fëmily lot - SRJO - 30,000 square feet, it requires 1 1/2 t:imes the squa:œ footage in order for a duplex construction. This developnent has satisfied t}x)se requirEments. Mr. Archino said he has cleared the proposal with Mack Dean. Mr. Archino said he am his wife are living in the sane type of :tx>use on Ridge Read, just north of the Þ.diromack Animal Hospital. The house is for his personal use. The construction would be the sane. Mark BcJ1Ðæ:d: Mr. Barbard owns the land to the south of the proposed site, was oon- cemed about a duplex construction, am that an engineer s1nù..d be on board to design the septic system, because of the type of land available. Mr. Banbard also said his property is restricted by deed to single fëmily b:rœs. Mr. BcJ1Ðæ:d explained that there is a water course that runs down the edge of his property and he wants to make sure there is no problem. The elevation increases fran south to north and he is ooncemed about subsoil drainage. Mr. Archino feels that there will be no considerable effect on either of the two lots surrounding the subject project. The:tx>use will be situated so as to take advantage of the terrain, am go fran Ridge Read to the garages. The septic system, there is enough land available in the back to increase the leach field. The peroolation tests that were per- fonœd rrore than satisfy the requirEments for the leach field. If this does create a problem, Mr. Archino said he is willing to expand the leach field. Elizabeth Miller: Mrs. Miller has 18 acxes adjoining to the north am said that she was not infonœd of the meeting. She is also concerned about a duplex being located in a single fanily dwelling area. The houses located in the surrounding property are valued at $100,000, $150,000 am $200,000, am cannot conceive of putting a duplex in that area, am to Mrs. Mjl' er it locates the value of the neighborhood. Mr. Archino disagreed. Mrs. Miller also mentioned that the area is zoned for small fanning and the fact that she has enough acreage for nine horses. Neighbor: (3 doors down) There are three 1xrneowners in the :imœdiate area that are present at this meeting, excluiing Mrs. Wilcox, am none of the neighbors are in 18 _/ favor of the duplex. influenced by a duplex. They have expensive banes and do not want them Mr. Archino said he has abided by the Town laws and, if necessary, he would set the facility back farther. He was asked why a duplex and not two dwellings. Answer: Econanics. Mr. Macri pointed out to Mr. Archino that it has always been the intent of the Boa:r:d that, if the character of the neighborOOad is being changed and there is enough opposition, the Boa:r:d will tend to go to with the neighborhood. Mr. :Bati)ard asked if there was tOOught to cut rmre trees. Answer: No. The only place that will be cleared is the setback. Mrs. Mann read Mrs. Nancy D. Wilcox's letter in opposition to a variance that would allow the construction of a duplex (on file). Mr. Alred Marcantonio: Mr. Marcantonio lived in the area for 30 years and does not want it changed, in addition he feels that Mr. Archino will not pennanently live in there as stated. Mr. Macri rooved DISAPPRJVAL of Site Plan No. 7-88, Joseph and SUsan Archino, for the reasons that it does not confOJ:m to the existing neighbor- 000d and it would change the character of the neighborOOad which is single fanily residence. Seconded by Mr. Dybas. Mr. Dybas enphatically stated that the people in Queensbury do not want their neighborhoods changed. Passed UDaD:l.DDusly SITE PLAN tÐ. 8-88 Glens Falls National Bank & Trost CO. Mrs. Mann stated this to be a proposal for an addition of one auto- matic teller machine at the branch office at 675 Upper Glen Street, PC-lA. Mr. Wayne Jones represented the project and stated that the proposed A'lM would be tmderneath the existing overhand that is there now. This would bring the total to three drive-ins. The bank is proposing to close the bottan section of the overhang, which would expand the lobby area, and the A'lM teller machine and dep:)sitory machine that can be accessed dir- ectly f:tal\ a car. This would help eliminate the possibility of theft, in addition to being a great asset for the handicapped. Mr. Fred Liebel ñ:an Glens Falls IOOependent Living expressed his thoughts in that the drive-up 19 " ATM machine is a great plus for those persons who are handicapped, and he hopes that other banks will follow with the same idea. Mr. Jones advised the with conditions: "agreed remove paving and plant only." Board that Warren County Planning Board modified to eliminate the curb cut along Glen Street, grass. Traffic will exit on Lafayette Street Mr. Dybas moved APPROVAL of Site Plan No. 8-88, Glens Palls National Bank and Trust Company, for an additional automatic teller machine, and the traffic will exit on Lafayette Street, as recommended by the Warren County Planning Board. Seconded by Mr. Macri. Passed ...nimo.sly SITE PLAN REVIEW APPLICATION Ms. Lee York Ms. York addressed additional questions Review application; Page 2 of the present questions from the Board regarding this topic. the septic system be verified to size, etc. pertinent to a Site Plan application. There were no Mrs. Mann recommended that Mrs. Mann moved APPROVAL of the questions. Seconded by Mr. Dybas. Passed unanimously GLDS PALLS IOIPEDBBT LIVING CENTER Fred Liebel Mr. Liebel explained that the Living Centers are trying to get more involved in the planning stages of nèw buildings, constructions and devel- opments. In the past, the community and state have taken a very negative approach in gaining access to inaccessible spaces. The purposes are two- fold: 1) increase accessibility and 2) try to create advocacy in the community. Mr. Liebel feels that the Boards are in a unique position to effect the waiver of the Town of Queensbury in the next decade to come. People become disabled through a variety of reasons; ie: aging, disease, 20 -- accident, etc. unfortunately New York state is not as progressive as sane other states 1 00wiever, it is getting to be that way. Planning Boards, such as the one in Queensbury, can effect a drëlnatic change. Mr. Liebel said that a representative fran the ILC will be attending all the Planning Board meetings, as they do in Hudson Falls, Kingsbury, Malta, Saratoga Springs, City of Glens Falls, and Lake George. The ILC would like to provide themselves as a resource. He specifically mentioned the Westwood Deve1opnent, which is past the point of being able to accept c:œments. RI1i1ðings have to be designed for people that are going to live their lifespan, not just 30 to 40 to 50 years old. The ILC would like to see rrore reocJIIœI1dations fran Planning Boards to suggest roore ranch-style units interspersed GIOOng town houses. They allow accessibility, where town houses never allow accessibility. The ILC would be pleased to offer any input or offer any suggestiongs or assistance in creating a rrore barrier-free awareness, barrier-free enviromlent. Quite often it is just as inexpensive, it is just as econanical to build a ranp, in lieu of stairs. There is no reason to build a rë!llp and stairs. We would like to interact with the Planning Boards, architects, designers, etc. The ILC has a slide presentation that is presented to bl1; lders and designers covering the essentials. The meeting was adjoumed at 11:45 p.m. Hilde Mann, Acting Chahwanan -::Æ~~ RichaI:d Roberts, Chairman ~ TOWN OF QUEENSBURY ___'Plannmg & Zoning Dept. Minutes typed by MaJ:y Jane F. ~l1er, Stenographer 21 -, ~ATELANJ) -- lake George Ad. A.D. 5, Box 2 Glens Falls. N.Y. 12801 (518)792-8989 Thruway Mall Harlem Ad. & Walden Ave. Cheektowaga, N.Y. 14225 .~ (716)892-0075 ::.rCh 2, 1988 fP>f©iü,s!ur¡v ~ t' ~ lfl\ r.:.i.\ ~ 19B: ~ Ms. Susan Davidson 5 ~J A __ , £~~ Planning Department l~ \l'-""'~ PLA~N'NG & ~ONtNG Town of Queensbury ùEPARrME~- Bay & Haviland Roads JJ ". /- - 8 7 .. I Glens Falls, New York 12801 ~ 1109 Uncaln Ave. Lockport, N.Y. 14094 (716)433-5605 Re: Ferraro Entertainments, Inc./Skateland of Glens Falls Area Variance No. 1230 Site Plan Review File No. 6-87 Dear Ms. Davidson: In pursuance of our telephone conversation of Monday, February 29th, please accept this letter as formal request of the Planning Board of the Town of Queensbury and the Zoning Board of the Town of Queensbury to extend the approvals heretofore granted to Ferraro Entertainments, owner of Skateland of Glens Falls, to develop a waterslide facility on the Skateland property to be located at the rear (western end) of the Skate1and parcel. This approval was granted by the Zoning Board on March 18, 1987. In the intervening months, since the approval of this application, this site has been cleared and made generally ready to receive the slide to be built by Aqua World of DesMoines, Iowa. The slide itself has been ordered from the manufacturer, having been so in November, 1987. The construction drawings for the slide are expected momentarily and delivery of the slide has been promised by its manufacturer at the end of March, when the sitè would be susceptible to construction of this type of facility. It is anticipated that the construction process will require approximately 8 weeks to complete. We are aware that the variance and site plan review process generally afford an applicant a I-year period within which to initiate construction of the proposed improvement. Owing to complications which arose in Cheektowaga, New York in connection with the development of a new roller skating EXHIBIT A -/ facility for that site, it was not possible to devote the corporation's resources or personnel in the intensive manner required to supervise this construction program during the Summer and Fall of 1987. This was, in addition, complicated by the availability of scheduling from our supplier, Aqua World, of slides during this period of year coming from the manufacturers. As noted, the slide has since been ordered and is scheduled for delivery to our site in the Town of Queensbury at the end of March when, weather permitting, the construction will be completed in approximately 8 weeks. It should be further noted that no modifications are anticipated or have been sought from the manufacturer that vary in any material way from the design proposed and approved by the town in the Spring of last year. We would respectfully request that, for the reasons above stated, an extension of time be granted to Ferraro Entertainment to commence the actual construction of the improvement at the Skateland facility on Route 9 in the Town of Queensbury. As noted, the site has been cleared and leveled and fill brought to the site to improve the grade where required. The site is now ready to accept the superstructure and footings of the waterslide which is scheduled for delivery to our facility on Route 9 at the end of March. Accordingly, the favorable action by the Queensbury Planning Board and the Queensbury Zoning Board of Appeals is respectfully requested to enable our facility to carry forward with these improvements as soon as the construction season and materials delivery permit. Sincerely yours, /19 Je/t--l--¿,¿ . to-- ~w6N~ J. FERRARO, President Ferraro Entertainments, Inc. AJF/bmc EXHIBIT A CHARLEs H. SCUDDEFt CONSULTING ENGiNEeR ' BOX 792 GLENS FALLS. NEW YORK 12801 (518) '703-1475 -,' March 15, 1988 Richard W. Roberts, Chairman Queensbury planning Board Tbwn Office Building Bay Road at Haviland Queensbury I New York 12801 Subdivision 7-84 Courthouse Estates - Section III Dear Mr. Roberts: we have reviewed the final plans for Courthouse Estates - Section III, and have discussed elements of the project with Coulter & M:Connack, and the Queensbury Highway and water Departrænts. In our opinion the design is generally satisfactory, although we have the following recœmendations: . 1) the water distribution system should be strengt-bened by extending the main along Courthouse Drive to tie into the l2-inch main on Route 9. An· additional hydrant should be loCated and installed in accord wi th standards of the Queensbury Water DepartIrent. ,r.;,/ /' tJIf'Mr. Naylor agrees with our view that all of the catch basins and CJvfl drywells, including the three 8-foot dianeter dry\-.ells sited in the drainage easaœnt on Lot 18, should be of reinforced concrete. ; -.-/ 3) The road subgrade should be clearly identified as "Item 4" of 12- inch thickness, compacted in 6-inch lifts. Wi th the above exceptions, we find the design satisfactory. Charles . Scudder, P.E. Consulting Engineer EXHIBIT B ,¡.... ._. -..-----..---,..------.--- .._-~---_._.---"!.... ----- ~ TOWN OF QUEENSBURY WATER DEPARTMENT R.D. 2 CORINTH ROAD " QUEENSBURY, NEW YORK 12801 " PHONE 793·8866 ® ;,mct¡can ',','aler WOIÍ(S ASSOclðticn MEr.tB£A Coulter ~ccormack Surveyors Eay Street Glens Falls, New York, 12801 _}·OV~';·1 OF_~iUf&:ì\ÌSaU' y ml ~r~:¡'1WJl-':r)¡D . !ï;\.~",1J ~ ~Im . rlrti\141~~jJ)Jrch PLANNING {~~ ;/., DEPARTMENT " J RALPH VAN DUSEN Chief Operator-Laboratory Director THOMAS K. FLAHERTY, C.E.T. Superintendent 15, 1988 :"c .~ ~I ! Re: Courthouse Estates Section Three ~ap Dated 2/24/88 F965 Dear Sir: The preliminary planshfor water mains and appurtenances in Seccion Three Court ouse Estates have been reviewed by this department. If the installation of the water mains and appurtenances is carried out as presented in the plans, this project will meet the requirements of this department subject to the Regu- lations and General .Requirements Relating to Water Mains and Hydrants in the Town of Queensbury. Subje~t to ~onditio0~ " TKF:cf ;q~~ Thomas K. Flaherty, C.E.T. Water Superi~tendent Conòitions 1. Þ.ddi tional hydrant will be installed at intersection of Oak Ridge Drive and Courthouse Drive 2. Courthouse Drive will be tied into Route 9 with a minimum 6 inch Ductile Iron Main. EXHIBIT C _.___._______'r__'~ '''= ,_.__._~..'~-'.^. .~.,~~ -----.. Wnfun of (@u£~n5hurg ~igqfua!l ~cpnrtnt£nt Bay at Haviland Roads Offlçe Phone 518-793-7771 Queensbury, New York 12801 PAUL H. NAYLOR Superintendent Highways RICHARD A. MISSIT A Deputy Superintendent Highways _!OWN OF aUeENSBUf, r 1) ~UW Blm Pi.ANN'N N'NO OEPA ENT March 15, 1988 /'" ...-..-4.· . .~ A..l¡~ ~ '¡ , -~/ Richard W. Roberts Chairman of Queensbury Planning Board J'" -,'" Re: Subdivision 7-84 Court House Estates - Section III Dear Mr. Roberts: '..,' ,-," '.', ,'","," I think: it is a badl~~å",·;toapp~ove a thirty foot (30') wide private way into the north end of Court House Estates from Rte 9. If tliisrp,aq<is,fo:!, emergency or limi teduse, most of the additionaliy~þ,ic;L.,esfrom Section III must enter and leave the subdivisi-oD,Ry'way-of Glen Lake Road. In my opinion, it would be bet.te~. j;.o l',educe rather than increase use of this Rte. .~. . 0" r In any event, the Town sÀQuÀÀ own the roads and the Highway Department should maintaiIk:.them. /,~Ctf:;y,¿~~ ./ <,./'" Paul H. Naylor ~ Queensbury Highway Superintendent EXHIBIT D " CHARLES H. SCUDDER CONSULTING ENGINEER BOX 792 GLENS FALLS, NEW YORK 12801 (518) 793-1475 "OW ~7" N-EF_QUEENSBlmr 1) M.;Þ<I) rJ¡',-Þ\i: \'--~" . H\«: .;,1;' \~/' t"' ~\ffi~'>I! IJ JdID.. . ~l!. ^'Ir1" 15 ~8~~.YJ PLA¡~¡'4ING ~ "-0 DEPARTMEN~iNG Richard W. Roberts, Chainnan Queensbury Planning Board Town Office Building Bay Road at Haviland Queensbury, New York 12801 / "- I~ , . : ,¡ :/ , /" i ~ ~ lo...' March 15, 1988 l, LI\ ff " ~ WestlrKX>Ò., Phase II Subdivision 9-87 Dear Mr. Roberts: The final plans for WestlrKX>Ò., Phase II, have been reviewed in this office. Specific features of the design have been discussed with Mr. Sciartelli of Morse Engineering, Project Engineers. This Phase II part of the project depends on the corrpletion of municipal sewerage in the Glenwood Avenue area of the Town. We find the project satisfactory and have no exceptions or objections. EXHIBIT E """- SUBDMSION NO. 9-87. Preliminary Approval Minutes: May Q, 1987 Westwood, townÌìõuse condominiums Mr. Roberts stated that this was for 48 townhouse units, north of Glenwood Avenue, approximately 1,000 feet north of Blind Rock Road. Ted Bigelow represented the applicants; Ralph and Michael Woodbury. Mr. Roberts stated that this was a public hearing but the Board needs to do SEQR review before preliminary approval can be granted. Mr. Roberts added this project to the May 2.8 agenda, special meeting/workshop. The public hearing will be left open at the May 2.8 meeting/workshop. The Board discussed the EIS. Mr. Roberts pointed out that George Wiswall, adjoining property owner, had indicated that a portion of the property was located in the wetlands. The issue of wetlands was discussed at length. Mr. Wiswall stated his concerns on the septic system for the project. He stated, "There should be a moratorium on any development like this that's going to be development within the next year or two within the sewer district." : . Mr. Bigelow stated they would only be putting in septic system to handle the first units this year if approved. It will be an elevated system. Stormwater drainage was discussed at length. Mr. Roberts stated that NO ACTION would be taken until SEQR review has been completed. Note: On May 2.8, 1987 at the Plannjng Board meeting/workshop, Mr. Dybas MOVED a NEGA'l1VE DECLARATION be issued for SEQR on Subdivision No. 9-87, Westwood. Second by Mr. Martin. Passed Unanimously. EXHIBIT F