1985-06-18
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Regular Meeting of the Town of Queensbury Planning Board held
.Tune 18, 1985 at 8: 00 P .~1.
Present: Mr. Dybas, Mrs. Mann, Mr. Sorlin, Mr. Noll and Mr. Macri
Absent: Mr. Roberts and Mrs. Levandowski
In the absence of the Chairman, Mr. Roberts, Mr. Sorlin was
appointed acting chairman.
The first item acted upon was the approval of the minutes of the
May, 1985 meeting.
Motion by Mr. Macri, seconded by Mr. Noll, all voting affirmatively
it was
RESOLVED THAT the minutes of the meeting held May 1985 are hereby
approved.
Approved.
The first request before the board was from the Queensbury School
Playground Committee represented by Cynthia J. Bishop.
Mrs. Bishop explained the plans by the group to build a playground
the eìementary school. She said they were asking for permission
for an off premises signs, in fact two (2) signs for key areas of
the Town.
~'!rs. Mann asked if these signs would be temporary and ~·1rs. Bishop
said definitely. They would be needed from early July until the
end of October
Mr. ~1acri added that there is a provision in the ordinance which
permits signs if they are connected with a governmental organization.
The problem here is this is off premises, if they were to be on
school property there would be no problem at all.
~otion by Mrs. ~ann, seconded by Mr. ~1acri, all voting affirmatively
it was
RESOLVED THAT the Queensbury Planning Board hereby approves off-
premises signs 22A and 22B for the Queensbury School Playground
Committee to be erected July thru October.
Approved.
SUBDIVISIONS:
Bedford Close, Section 5, Sub. No. 6-84. Represented by Mr.
Hccormack, - final approval.
Hr. Sorlin mentioned that the problem at previous meetings was with
the drainage. He then added that Mr. McCormack has 4bne an out-
standing job in putting this together. The Town Engineer, Mr.
Scudder, then produced a letter to the Board regarding this project.
This letter is attached to these minutes as it was read into the
record.
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Motion by Mr. Macri, seconded by Mr. Dybas, all voting affirmatively
RESOLVED THAT
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Approved.
the Queensbury Planning Board hereby approves Bedford
5, lots 125, 126, 127,128,129, 130 & 131 with the
set forth in letter from Mr. Scudder and Mr. Naylor
Road construction shall be in accord with published
standards of the Town of Queensbury.
provisions for grading, drainage, and stormwater
management shall be completed as shown on the
approved plans.
The developer, insofar as possible, shall provide
the Highway Superintendent a written schedule of
major construction events vis-a-vis roads and drainage.
The developer shall cause establishment of vertical
and horizontal control to U.S.G.S. datum.
The developer shall give 24 hour written notice of
desired inspections incident to approvals of
construction by the Highway Superintendent, and
inspections will be made during normal business hours.
Kings Plantation - Subdivision No. 2-85 90 lots Peggy Ann Road
Tabled - no resolution
Valente - South side Walker Lane Sketch Plan Review
Attorney Dennis Phillips represented Mr. Valente along with attorney
Daniel Smith.
Mr. Phillips explained along with Mr. Smith that this is basically
a townhouse development planned to be located off Bay Road south
of Walker Road.
Mr. Valente showed a drawing of what the proposed buildings would
look like. He explained that this development is quite large and
would take a lot of work. They are basically 4, 6 & 8 plex buildings.
Some with 2 bedroom units and some with 3 and that the entire pro-
ject would take approximately 12 to 15 years to complete. He
introduced Mr. Scudder who is his consulting engineer for this
project.
Mr. Scudder showed the plans for approximately seventy (70) acres
of land. Approximately 3.6 units per acre. There will be two
entrances or exits into the project.
Mrs. Mann questioned possible problems with septic system in the
high area. Mr. Scudder said there were none, there have been tests
taken with no problems.
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Attorney Smith explained further the project adding that he
has also been involved ina similar project in chestertown.
He added that they were asking for conceptual approval of the
project.
Mr. Sorlin asked when they thought they would be looking for
preliminary approval of the entire project.
Attorney Phillips interjected that they would like to begin
with phase one (I) beginning sometime in September. Once
we have conceptual approval we will have a lot to do to get
things together.
Mr. Dybas asked how many units would be included in Phase One.
Mr. Valente said he would like to put one (I) six (6) plex up
to start phase one.
Mr. Sorlin added that the land use plan for the Town of Queensbury
envisioned just this type of project when we put it together.
~1rs. Mann interjected that the density here is roughly half of
what is allowed.
Chairman added that there will be a Public Hearing advertised
on this as plans develop.
Motion by Mrs. Mann, seconded by Mr. Dybas, all voting affirmatively,
it was
RESOLVED THAT the Queensbury Planning Board hereby gives
conceptual approval on the Baybridge plan.
Approved.
PHEASANT WALK - Phase Two (2) Final Approval.
Mr. Sorlin said that they have done everything that we asked.
No further questions from the Board
Motion by Mr. Dybas, seconded by Mr. Macri, all voting affirmatively,
it was
RESOLVED THAT the Queensbury Planning Board hereby gives final
approval for the Pheasant Walk Subdivision as all requests previously
made by the Board have been met by developer.
Approved.
OLD BUSINESS
Public Hearing on Site Plan No. 10-85 still open
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Attorney Wilson Mathias, Attorney for the Town of Queensbury,
presented to the Board a copy of the Proposed Local Law No. 2
which the Town is considering adopting regarding transient
merchants and solicitors.
Mr. Sorlin said that he would like to ask for public input at
this point in the hearing.
He asked for anyone in favor, there were none.
Those not in favor
Mr. Lombardo, resident of the area said he was not in favor.
He added that this man rents from him and he will have no toilet
facilities and everyone will be using his. He then added that
Mr. Dawson was in violation of his lease.
Attorney Desantis, owner of building immediately to the south.
Mr. DeSantis sug~ested that the Board should determine if a
permanent structure would be put up there. He was not in favor
of a possible garage sale atmosphere.
Mr. Macri questioned the sanitary facilities.
Mr. Dawson said there was no reason to need any as he would not
have five employees.
Public Hearing closed.
a motion by Mrs. Mann to disapprove site plan review 10-85 did
not receive a second.
After further discussion from Attorney DeSantis it was decided
to table for more information.
Motion by Mr. Macri, seconded by Mr. Dybas, all voting affirmatively,
it was
RESOLVED THAT Site Plan Review 10-85 be tabled for more in-
formation.
Tabled.------
The Board is confused as what has been submitted and requested
a legal interpretation.
NEW BUSINESS
Site Plan Review No. 14-85 - Clifton F. Harriman - to construct
two (2) duplex dwellings and one single family dwelling in
Suburban Residential 30 Zone on property east side of Ridge Road
north of Quaker Road.
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Mr. Sorlin asked why this application done in this manner, it
should probably be a variance. He added that there should be
Zoning Board approval before this Board can act. The application
should be revised to reflect requirements for SR30. The
application, as presented is improper.
No action taken
SITE PLAN REVIEW NO. 15-85 - W. T. Desbiens - to construct a
4-unit apartment building in Urban REsidential 10 Zone on
property situated Meadowbrook Road.
Mr. Desbiens represented himself explaining what he proposed
which would be 3 two bedroom units. He also showed a rendering
of the proposal.
Several neighbors present were concerned about drainage.
Mr. Desbiens said that he discussed this with Mr. Woodbury who
will be the contractor and that he said there would be no problem
with drainage.
Mrs. ~1ann mentioned that this proposal is located between two
private residences and Mr. Desbiens said that was correct.
Public Hearing Open
Nancy Kelly, Ridge Street asked if this is the only building and
Mr. Desbiens said at this time yes.
Mrs. Kelly said her concern is for the traffic and septic drainage
Resident of 28 Meadowbrook Road presented a petition against
the request.
Marilyn Tallon presented samples of surface soil from her yard.
James ~ihitney 334 Ridge St. concerned about how many buildings
there would be in the future.
Connie Keep 35 Meadowbrook Road against request.
Phil Santisaro 320 Ridge St. Against mainly concerned with water.
Mr. Desbiens said he was going by the perk tests.
Robert Lynch 320 Ridge st. against
Larry Barker 330 Ridge asked if any other area was considered for
this project and Mr. Desbiens said he liked this area.
Joseph DeMeyo concerened about the traffic.
Public Hearing closed.
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Mrs. Mann spoke about the fact that this is a one family
area strictly residential and the character of the neighborhood
would definately change and in her opinion it should remain
as is.
Motion by Mrs. Mann, seconded by Mr. Dybas
The Queensbury Planning Board disapproves Site Plan Review 15-85
as it does not blend with the character of the existing neighbor-
hood since the existing neighbors are all single family residential.
The apartment building would be placed between two (2) established
single family residences.
Yes (to deny) Mr. Dybas, Mrs. Mann, Mr. Sorlin, Mr. Noll and
Mr. Macri
No - None
Denied.
SITE PLAN REVIEW NO. 16-85 - Tire Warehouse - to operate a tire
sales store in an existing building in Highway Commercial 15 Zone
property located IS Boulevard.
Mr. John McCall represented the Company.
Concern about general appearance of the area, Mr. McCall said
that they are doing a general re-vamp of the building itself
and the outside area is also being cleaned up.
Warren County Planning Board approved with concern about the
parking on the Boulevard side of the building.
Mr. McCall answered to this that there was ample parking in the
entire area.
Mrs. Mann asked if they have to come to the Town for anything
else that they are planning.
Mr. Dean said he will need a building permit because of the change
in occupancy.
Motion by Mr. Dybas, seconded by Mr. Noll, all voting affirmatively,
it was
RESOLVED THAT Site Plan Review 16-à5 by approved as it will re-
hab and put into use an old building and improve the entire
neighborhood. The existing building is in a run down condition
and should be an improvement to the area. Warren County Planning
Board approved with concern for parking and also the Beautification
Committee approved.
Approved.
Motion by Mrs. Mann, seconded by Mr. Dybas, all voting affirmatively,
it was
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Subdivision No. 6-84, Bedford Close, Section 5
38 lots
June 18,,1985
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Conditions of final approval:
Project should be constructed with *Fngineering control.
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Permit issued with conditions that the *Fngineering control
of topo date of (7 lots) - 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131 -
responsibility lie with developer until issuance of C/O and
certified map be provided by *Engineering control at completion
of foundation as wel¡ as (5) conditions in letter dated June, 18,
1985.
That agreement will De forthcoming from homeowners association
accepting conditions green area.
(all certified conditions will corne from licensed land surveyor)
* see attached letter.
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CHARLES H. SCUDDER
CONSULTING ENGINEER
BOX 792
GLENS FALLS, NEW YORK 12801
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June 18, 1985
Richard W. Roberts, Chairman
Queensbury Planning Board
Queensbury Town Office Building
Bay Road at Haviland
Glens Falls, New York 12801
Re: Bedford Close, Section 5
Dear Mr. Roberts:
As you know, this project has been under close scutiny
for some months by Mr. Naylor, the Planning Board, and me.
We have all been concerned about the drainage question,
particularly as regards the potential for serious flood
damage in storms of unusual intensity and duration.
Mr. McCormack and Mr. Buckley, land surveyor and engineer
respectively, have completed their studies and plans to
the satisfaction of this office and of Mr. Naylor. We are
of the opinion that care has been taken to define how
water will be routed through the subdivision in a severe
storm so as to minimize property damage. In that connection,
a computation has been made by Mr. Buckley to quantify
the amount of storm water expected to pass through the
subdivision in a lO-year design storm, and his calculations
are being submitted herewith. Mr. McCormack has shown on
the drawings prepared in his off~e the flood routes of
the stormwater. Inlets and storm sewers are provided to
bring the amount of surface.travel of water within accept-
able limits.
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In the finished grade planning both for roads and adjacent
lots, there have been a number of lots identified on the
plan as requiring special grading to protect the homes
from flood damage. It would seem the building inspector
should take steps to ensure that the lot purchaser is
made aware of this condition on the affected lots. Further,
every lot purchaser should receive a ~opy of the approved
plan.
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Richard w. Roberts
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Conditions of Final Approval:
1) Road construction shall be in accord with published
standards of the Town of Queensbury.
2) Provisions for grading, drainage, and stormwater
management shall be completed as shown on the approved
plans.
3) The developer, insofar as possible, shall provide
the Highway Superintedent a written schedule of
major construction events vis-a-vis roads and drainage.
4) The developer shall cause establishment of vertical
and horizontal control to U.S.G.S. datum.
5) The developer shall give 24 hour's written notice 0
desired inspections incident to approvals of construc-
tion by the Highway Superintendent, and inspections
will be made during normal business hours.
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Charles H. Scudder, P.E. ,
Consulting Engine~r 1
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aul H. Naylor
Superintendent of Highways
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