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1987-11-16 ",..) QUEENSBURY RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES OF MEETING NOVEMBER 16, 1987 Minutes of the regular meeting of the Recreation Commission of the Town of Queensbury, held Monday, November 16, 1987, at the Queensbury Town Office Building, Queensbury, New York. Chair- man Granger called the meeting to order at 7:33 P.M. PRESENT: Commissioners Bly, Granger, LaBombard, Lemery, Lettus and Teti, and Director Hansen ABSENT: Commissioner Simmonds (Ex.) VISITORS: Councilman Montesi APPROVAL OF MINUTES Commissioner Teti moved to approve the minutes of the October 19, 1987 meeting. Commissioner Lemery seconded the motion and after polling all Commissioners, the motion was unanimously approved. COMMUNICATIONS AND REMARKS FROM VISITORS Councilman Montesi reviewed and updated the Commission on the status of the Town park projects (Ridge Road, South Queensbury, Hovey Pond and Gurney Lane) and he stated that the Department should continue to work on all of these areas throughout the winter. He reiterated that the Town Board and the Recreation Commission should maintain good communications, especially with regard to funding for the continuation of these projects. He mentioned that the Town's Master Plan was still in the process of being updated and that once completed, would most certainly impact on new developments and subdivisions within the community. Because of this increased development, Councilman Montesi antici- pated that the Commission's input, with regard to future recreation facility expansion, would also be intensified. He suggested that, based on the expected future development of the West Mountain/ Potter Road area, that the Commission give consideration to the creation of a neighborhood park in this region. -2- In summary, Councilman Montesi again reaffirmed his suppor- tive role with regard to both the Recreation Commission and the Department, in assisting them to achieve their goal of providing quality public recreation. Chairman Granger thanked Councilman Montesi for his attendance and his interest in Recreation Commission matters. Mr. Alton Dubois' communication was reviewed and briefly discussed and it was pointed out that a copy should be forwarded to the project engineer, Dick Morse. The Commission suggested that the Director correspond with Mr. Dubois and thank him for his interest and effort with regard to the Hovey Pond Project. It was also suggested that the Director do everything possible to encourage Mr. Dubois' future input and participation regarding this project. HOVEY POND PROJECT DISCUSSION Chairman Granger briefly summarized the events of the past 3~ years as it pertained to the Hovey Pond recreational area. He outlined the events since 1981 when the 10+ acre pond was gifted to the Town by the Finch Pruyn organization. He reviewed the Recreation Commission's past involvement with regard to: park plans, cost estimates, negotiations with adjacent property owners and the hiring of a project engineer. In conclusion, the Chairman reviewed the Engineer's latest park design and cost estimates to create a passive recreation site. In summary, Chairman Granger commented that the Commission, as an advisory arm of the Town Board, would seem to have proceeded as far as they could regarding the Hovey Pond Project. The Chairman requested additional comments and a number of Commissioners were somewhat alarmed and concerned at the latest cost estimate for the project. Commissioner Lemery reaffirmed the Chairman's opinion in that the Recreation Commission had completed its assigned task with respect to the Hovey Pond Project. There was further discussion with regard to a possible spending "cap" for the project and the Department's capital fund as an avenue of financing for this project. After further discussion, it was the consensus that the Commission had fulfilled its assigned task with regard to investigating and recommending to the Town Board, that a passive recreation area be created at Hovey Pond Park, and therefore, Commissioner Lemery moved to recommend that; "...they (the Town Board) meet collectively or individually with the Engineer (Dick Morse) that we (the Town) have retained for the Hovey Pond Project and proceed as they (the Town Board) desire and that if they (the Town Board) wish for any further input from the Recreation Commission, that we (the Recreation Commission) make ourselves avail- able. II Commissioner Bly seconded the motion, and after polling the Commission, the motion was unanimously approved. The Commission then instructed -3- the Director to prepare the Commission's recommendation in letter form and submit it to the Supervisor and Town Board before their next meeting. RIDGE ROAD PARK PROJECT A number of Commissioners questioned the Director regarding the Ridge Road Park structure (barn) and what was being planned for the future. Chairman Granger was particularly interested in the status of the roof repair bids which had been received some time ago. The Director explained that B. Leaver (LA Group) had not completed his total park analysis which was to include an evaluation/recommendation of this structure. In the meantime, the Department had cleaned out a portion of the facility and expects to use this area for storage this winter. Many of the Commissioners were dismayed that no decision regarding the structure had been made and the Director was instructed to check with B. Leaver, as soon as possible, to determine the structure's usability as a storage facility. Furthermore, it was the con- sensus that the Recreation Commission correspondence (11/17/87 recommendation), which the Director was preparing, should also include a secondary request that action be taken by the Town Board on this subject (Hovey Pond structure), as soon as possible. COMMITTEE REPORTS Commissioner LaBombard (Joint School/Commission Committee) reported on the events of the most recent joint meeting (11/6/87) and reviewed the topics which had been discussed at previous Committee meetings. Commissioner LaBombard requested additional clarification on a number of topics including joint Committee (Commission/Board) attendance, the School athletic facility lighting options and the proposed contractual usage/liability agreement (between Queensbury School and the Town). The Director clarified a number of items with regard to the joint Committee and there was further discussion on the lighting proposals which had previously been received from B. Simione, the Quality Industries sales representative. There was considerable disagreement and confusion regarding the five lighting options and 'it was agreed that these should be duplicated and sent out to all Commissioners to be reviewed and discussed at a later date. The Director pointed out that the status of the usage agreement was unknown at this time and Councilman Montesi agreed to check with School Attorney Paltrowitz regarding this subject. Commissioner LaBombard suggested that a follow-up joint Committee meeting be held as soon as possible after the Thanksgiving holidays. This was agreed on and Commissioner LaBombard and the Director will coordinate and schedule the next meeting at the Town Office Building in early December. -4- Commissioner Teti (Hovey Pond Historical Committee) updated the Commission on his Committee's progress and reported that he is in the process of contacting the Town Historian for further information. DIRECTOR'S REPORT The Director's Report, which was included in the monthly packet, was briefly reviewed and there were no specific questions. There being no further business, the Commission adjourned at 9:05 P.M. The next meeting will be held on Monday, December 14, 1987, at 7:30 P.M. Minutes prepared by Harry R. Hansen, Director