1977-01-04 ORG ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING JANUARY 4, 1977
MEMBERS PRESENT
Michel Brandt-Supervisor
Daniel Olson-Councilman
Robert Barber-Councilman
Harold Robillard-Councilman
Hammond Robertson-Councilman
Joseph Brennan-Town Counsel
PRESS : Tri Co. News, Glens Falls Post Star
TOWN OFFICIALS: Betty Eggleston, George Liapes, Harold Boynton, Gerald
Sawn, Phyllis Joslyn, Carl Garb, Floyd Martindale, Gilbert Schlierer
James Ogden, Lois Chase, Sylvia. Dougher, Robert Eddy, Mr. Tarana
Shirley- Shenk, Mrs. Hammond Robertson
Guests-Thomas Murphy, Lloyd Demboski, Harwood Beaty, Residentsof Queensbury
regarding joint landfill
Meeting Opened 7: 26 P.M. Salute to the Flag led by Supervisor Brandt
RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING RULES OF PROCEDURE
RESOLUTION NO. 1, Introduced by Mr. Daniel Olson who moved for its
adoption, seconded by Mr. Hammond Robertson:
RESOLVED, that pursuant to the authority granted by Section 63 of the
Town Law of the State of New York, the Town Board hereby determines
that Robert' s Rules of Order shall be its rules of procedure during
the year 1977, except when the same are not in accord with the Town
Law or with other resolution of this Board.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes: None
Absent: None
RESOLUTION TO SET TOWN BOARD MEETING
RESOLUTION NO. 2. Introduced by Mr. Harold Robillard who moved its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Hammond Robertson:
RESOLVED, that pursuant to Section 62 of the Town Law of tle State of
New York, regular meetings of the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury
shall be held on the second and fourth Tuesdays of each month hereafter
at 7: 30 P.M. at the Queensbury Town Office Building, Bay and Haviland
Roads, Town of Queensbury, and be it further
RESOLVED, that any special meetings :df said Board L'r. 11 be subject to a
two day notice in advance by the Supervisor.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes : Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson , Mr. Brandt
Noes: None
f Absent: None
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LETTER
BUILDING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT
December 13, 1976
Members of the Town Board
Gentlemen:
I respectfully request reappointment as Town of Queensbury
Building Inspector.
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Respectfully,
/s/
George P. Liapes
RESOLUTION TO APPOINT BUILDING INSPECTOR
RESOLUTION NO. 3, Introduced by Mr. Robert Barber who moved for its
adoption, secon ed by Mr. Daniel Olson:
RESOLVED, that pursuant to Section 138 of the Town Law of the State
of New York, George P. Liapes be and he hereby is appointed Building
Inspector of the Town of Queensbury for the year 1977.
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Duly adopted by the following vote: J
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes: None
Absent: None
LETTER
BUILDING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT
December 13, 1976
Members of the Town Board
Gentlemen:
I respectfully request that I be reappointed as Deputy Building
Inspector and Zoning Officer for the year 1977.
Thank you.
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/s/
Harold E. Boynton
RESOLUTION TO APPOINT ASSISTANT BUILDING INSPECTOR
RESOLUTION NO, 4, Introduced by Mr. Daniel Olson who moved its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Hammond Robertson:
RESOLVED, that pursuant to Section 138 of the Town Law of the State
of New York, Harold Boynton be and he hereby is appointed Assistant
Building Inspector of the Town of Queensbury for the year 1977.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson , Mr. Brandt
Noes: None
Absent: None
LETTER
R.D.#1-Box 401-Rte. 149
Lake George, New York 12845
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December 15 , 1976
Supervisor, Michael Brandt
Town of Queensbury, and
Queensbury Town Board
R.D.#1 - Bay Road
Glens Falls, New York 12801
Gentlemen:
I hereby request reappointment as Court Clerk for the Queensbury
Town Court for 1977 on the recommendation of Town Justice James A.
Davidson and Town Justice John S. Carusone, and to serve in this
capacity at the pleasure of the Town Board.
Very truly,
/s/
Phyllis E. Joslyn, Court Clerk
QUEENSBURY TOWN COURT
RESOLUTION APPOINTING TOWN JUSTICE COURT CLERK
RESOLUTION NO. 5. Introduced by Mr. Daniel Olson who moved its adoption,
seconded y Mr. Harold Robillard:
PURSUANT to Section 20, Subdivision 1 (a) of the Town Law of the State
of New York and pursuant to Section 109 of the Uniform Justice Court
Act of the State of New York, Phyllis . Joslyn of Farm to Market Road,
Queensbury, is hereby appointed Town Justice Court Clerk, to serve at
the pleasure of the Board; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Administrative Board of the Judicial Conference
of the State of New York be notified of the appointment.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes: None
Absent: None
LETTER
December 31, 1976
Queensbury Town Board
Queensbury Town Office Bldg.
Bay & Haviland Road, R.D.#1
Glens Falls , New York
Gentlemen:
Please be advised that I have reappointed Mrs. Jacqueline VanDerwarker,
Deputy Receiver of Taxes .
Sincerely,
/s/
Betty Eggleston
Rec. of Taxes
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING APPOINTMENT AND DUTIES OF DEPUTY RECEIVER OF TAXES
AND ASSESSMENTS
RESOLUTION NO. 6 Introduced by Mr. Hammond Robertson who moved its
adoption, seconded by Mr. Daniel Olson:
WHEREAS, Betty Eggleston has appointed Jacqueline VanDerwarker of Ridge
Road, Queensbury, as Deputy Receiver of Taxes and Assessments ; Now,
Therefore be it
RESOLVED, that the Deputy Receiver of Taxes and Assessments shall have the
power to perform all duties of the Receiver of Taxes and Assessments and
such further duties as the Town Board may determine, not inconsistent with
law.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes : Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes : None
Absent: None
RESOLUTION TO RETAIN T014N SURVEYOR
RESOLUTION N0. 7, Introduced by Mr. Hammond Robertson who moved its
adoption, seconced by •Mr. Michel Brandt:
RESOLVED, that John B. VanDusen of the Town of Queensbury be retained
as Town Surveyor of said Town for the fiscal year 1977 at an annual
compensation of $3,400. 00 and that the Town Supervisor be and he-
hereby is authorized to execute on behalf of the Town a contract with
John B. VanDusen for such services , and be it further
RESOLVED, that in addition to the services provided by such contract
the Town Board employ said John B. VanDusen to perform other services
as may be required which will involve the employment by him of persons
to assist in compiling data, drafting and similar work, and that the
Town reimburse John B. VanDusen for such additional work and expenses
in connection therewith during the fiscal year of 1977, not to exceed
in the aggregate sum of $1,000. 00 which reimbursement shall be made
upon itemized and certified vouchers therefor audited by the Town Board.
Duly adopted by the following vote: -
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes : None
Absent: None
RESOLUTION TO APPOINT REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS
RESOLUTION NO. 8, Introduced by Mr. Harold Robillard who moved its
adoption, secon ed by Mr. Daniel Olson:
RESOLVED, that pursuant to Section 4121, subdivision 3 (a) of the
Public Health Law of the State of New York, Donald A. Chase , be and
he hereby is appointed Registrar of Vital Statistics, to serve at
the pleasure of the Board.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber-I .. Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes : None
Absent: None
LETTER
TOWN 'CLERK
January 1, 1976 1
Members of the Town Board
Town of Queensbury
Dear Sirs:
I wish to appoint Miss Darleen Dougher, RD No. 1 Sunnyside East
Glens Falls, New York as Deputy Town Clerk and Deputy Registrar
of Vital Statistics for the year 1977.
I also wish to appoint Mrs. Lois Chase, 225 Fifth St. Ext. as
second Deputy Town Clerk.
Respectfully,
/s/
Donald A. Chase
Town Clerk
LETTER
DOG WARDEN
January 1, 1977
Members of the Queensbury Town Board
Gentlemen:
I respectfully request that I be reappointed as Dog Warden
for the Town of Queensbury for the year 1977.
Respectfully yours ,
/s/
James Davison
Dog Warden
Town of Queensbury
RESOLUTION APPOINTING DOG WARDEN
RESOLUTION NO. 9 , Introduced by Mr. Daniel Olson who moved its
a opt on, seconded by Mr. Robert Barber:
RESOLVED, that pursuant to Section 130, Subdivision 9, of the Town
Law of the State of New York, James Davison be and he hereby is
appointed Dog Warden of the Town of Queensbury to serve at the
pleasure of the Town Board.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes : Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes : None
Absent: None
RESOLUTION NAMING COUNSEL TO TOWN BOARD
RESOLUTION NO. 10, Introduced by Mr. Harold Robillard who moved its
adoption, seconded by Mr. Daniel Olson:
WHEREAS, this Board deems itself in need of legal counsel in the conduct
of its affairs, and
WHEREAS, the office of Town Attorney has not been established or
provisions for a salary therefor includded in' the 1977 budget; therefore
be it
RESOLVED, that Joseph Brennan, ESQ, an attorney and residing in the Town
of Queensbury, be employed by this board to render such legal services
as may be required and that payment for such service be by Town voucher
audited by the Town Board.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes: None
Absent : None
RESOLUTION DESIGNATING OFFICIAL NEWSPAPERS
RESOLUTION NO. 11 Introduced by Mr. Hammond Robertson who moved its
adoption, seconttt by Mr. Daniel Olson:
RESOLVED, that pursuant to Section 64, subdivision 11, of the Town Law
of the State of New York, The Tri County News and the Post Star be
and they hereby are designated as official newspapers of the Town of
Queensbury.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes : Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes: None
Absent: None
RESOLUTION DESIGNATING OFFICIAL BANKS.
$SOLUTION NO. 12 Introduced by Mr. Hammond Robertson who moved its
adoption, s—econded by Mr. Daniel Olson:
RESOLVED, that pursuant to Sectinn 64, subdivision 1, of the Town Law
of the State of New York, the following be and they hereby are designated
as depositories for the funds of tke Town of Queensbury for the fiscal
year 1977: Glens Falls National Bank and Trust Company, First National
Bank of Glens Falls , State Bank of Albany, Chase Manhattan Bank of
Eastern New York, N.A. and Citibank New York State N.A. and be it further
RESOLVED, that authority be and hereby is delegated to the Town
Supervisor to determine the accounts and the amounts to be deposited
in each bank.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
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Ayes : Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes : None
Absent: None
DISCUSSION REGARDING ATTENDANCE AT ANNUAL MEETING OF THE ASSOCIATION OF
TOWNS
Councilman Robillard- I agree with holding the line on expenses Michael, buy
allowing maybe five persons to attend, if the Councilman fail to attend
then I would move that the Town Clerk, it has proved very beneficial to him,%
and the. Town Attorney be allowed to attend.
Supervisor Brandt- for a ,maximum number of five.
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ATTENDANCE AT ANNUAL MEETING OF THE ASSOCIATION
OF TOWNS
RESOLUTION NO. 13, Introduced by Mr. Daniel Olson who moved its
adoption, secondea by Mr. Harold Robillard:
RESOLVED, that Pursuant to Section 102, subdivision 10, of the Town Law
of the State of New York, the following town officers and employees be and
they hereby authorize the following town officers to attend the annual
meeting of the Association of Towns of the State of New York, to be
held in New York City, on February 21,22 , and 23rd. , 1977.
Town Supervisor, Town Councilmen (four) . , and be it further
RESOLVED, that if the above can not attend the conference the Town Clerk
and Town Counsel will act as alternates and if any other vacancies exist
the number to attend such conference is restricted to a total of five, and
be it further
RESOLVED, that the actual and necessary expenses of the town officers
attending such meeting be and the same are town charges and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor be. and he hereby is authorized to cast
the vote of the Town of Queensbury in said Association, and in his
absence, a Councilman, is to cast the vote of the Town.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes: None
Absent: None
RESOLUTION SETTING COMPENSATION FOR SCHOOL CROSSING GUARD
ESOLUTION NO. 14, Introduced by Mr. Harold Robillard who moved its
adoption, secon ed by Mr. Hammond Robertson:
RESOLVED, that the daily rate for Special Policemen: of the Town of
Queensbury be established as follows: .
School Crossing Guard - $ 8.00 per day
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes : Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes: None
Absent: None --'�
LETTER
ASSESSMENTS
December 14, 1976
Queensbury Town Board
RD#1 Bay at Haviland Roads
Glens Falls , New York 12801
Gentlemen:
I respectfully request to be reappointed to the position of
Acting Assessor for the Town of Queensbury to serve at the
pleasure of the Board.
Respectfully yours,
Gerald Sawn
Acting Assessor
Town of Queensbury
RESOLUTION APPOINTING ACTING ASSESSOR
RESOLUTION NO. 15, Introduced by Mr. Michel Brandt who moved its
adoption, seconded by Mr. Daniel Olson:
RESOLVED, that the position of Acting Assessor of the Town.of Queensbury
was established pursuant to Section 1522 of . the Real Property Tax Law, Now,
therefore be it
RESOLVED, that Gerald E. Sawn of Glen Lake, Town of Queensbury is hereby
appointed Acting Assessor, to serve at the pleasure of the Town Board at
an annual Salary of $9,640. 00 including- increment commencing January 1, 1977.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mr. . Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, qtr. Brandt
Noes : None
Absent: None
RESOLUTION REGARDING FINANCIAL REPORT OF THE TOWN SUPERVISOR
RESOLUTION NO 16 Introduced by Mr. Harold Robillard who moved its
adoption, seconded by Mr. Hammond Robertson:
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor be and he hereby is permitted and
allowed to file a copy of the-,annual financial report to the State
Comptroller, as required by Section 31 of the General Municipal Law,
with the Town Clerk on or before March 1, 1977 in lieu of filing a
separate financial report, as required by Section 119, Subdivisinn 2,
of the Town Law, by February 1, 1977.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes : None
Absent: None
RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE PURCHASE OF POSTAGE FOR WATER DEPT. , HIGHWAY DEPT. ,
AND POLICE DEPT.
RESOLUTION N0, 17 Introduced by Mr. Hammond Robertson who moved its
adoption, seconded by Mr. Michel Brandt:
WHEREAS , it is deemed advisable to purchase stamps for the use of the
Water, Highway and Police Departments for small mailings rather than
using the postage machine at the Town Office Builidng therefore be it
RESOLVED, that each department shall be allowed to purchase 100 stamps
and the supply be replenished as needed.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes : Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes : None
Absent: None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SUPERINTENDENT OF HIGHWAYS
RESOLUTION NO. 18 Introduced by Mr. Hammond Robertson who moved its
adoption, secon a by Mr. Daniel Olson:
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RESOLVED, that purchase of materials supplies and tools for the
Highway Department may be made by the Town Superintendent of
Highways without the prior approval of the Town Board where the
cost thereof does not exceed an aggregate of $2 , 300.00 during
the fiscal year.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes: None
Absent: None
RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING MILEAGE ALLOWANCE
RESOLUTION NO. 19, Introduced by Mr. Harold Robillard who moved
is a opt on, seconded by Mr. Hammond Robertson:
RESOLVED, Pursuant to Section 102 of the Town Law of the State of
New York, the sum of .15 per mile be and hereby is allowed for the
actual and necessary use of the automobile of the Town Officer
in the performance of his duties.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr.Robillard, Mr. Robertson, .Mr. Brandt
Noes : None
Absent : None
RESOLUTION OF APPOINTMENT TO THE TOWN OF OUEENSBURY INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT
AGENCY
RESOLUTION NO. 20, Introduced by Mr. Robert Barber who moved its adoption,
'seconded by Mr. Hammond Robertson:
WHEREAS, pursuant to Chapter 752 of the Laws of" New York, 1971, effective
June. 25, 1971, the Town of Queensbury Industrial Development. Agency
was created, and
WHEREAS, the certificate of establishment- of such agency was filed
pursuant to Section 856 , (1) of the General Municipal Law of the
State of New York designating the membership of said agency, NOW, THEREFORE ,
BE IT
RESOLVED, that a certificate of appointment of the chairman and members
of the Town of Queensbury Industrial Development Agency be filed with
the office of the Secretary of State pursuant to Section 856 of the
General Municipal Law of the State of New York designating the respective
parties for the position set forth after their respective names.
Michel Brandt-Chairman
Harold Robillard-Member
Robert Barber-Member
Daniel Olson-Member
Hammond Robertson-Member
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr-. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes: None
Absent: None '- '
SALARY ACTUAL
EMPLOYEE NAME TITLE BASE INCREMENT TOTAL
Bodenweiser, Norbert W. Fire Marshal 4,77C
Boynton, Harold Ass 't Bldg. Insp. 9:,763, 392. 10, 155.
Barber, Robert Councilman 3,250. ---- 3,250.
Brandt, Michel R. Supervisor 8,250. ---- 8,250.
Carusone, John S. Justice 4,750. ---- 4, 750.
Cederstrom, Paul Rec. Director 3, 392. ---- 3,392.
Chase, Donald A.' Town Clerk 11, 500. ---- 11,500.
Chase , Lois 2nd. Deputy Tn.Cl. 318. ---- 318.
Davidson, James Justice 4, 750. ---- 4, 750.
Davison, James ' Dog Warden 7,939. 292. 8,231.
Dougher, Darleen Deputy Tn. Clerk- 6, 800. 400. 7,250.
Dunn, John Cemetery Caretaker9,222. 400. 9,622.
Eggleston, Betty Rec. of Taxes 7,219. 500. 7,719.
Flaherty, Thomas Water Supt. 12,900. 500. 13,400.
Garb, Carl A. Hwy. Supt. 13,400. ---- 13,400.
Joslyn, Phyllis ' Court Clerk 6, 850. 400. 7,250.
Liapes , George ' Building Insp. ' 11 ,100. 400. 11,500.
Martindale, Floyd Deputy Hwy. Supt. 12,100. 400. ^r 12, 500.
Merrill, Theodofe Bookkeeper ' 10,600. 92. 10,692 .
Olson, Daniel Councilman 33;260. ---- 3,250.
Reid, Robert Health Officer 2,968. ---- 2,968.
Robertson, Hammond Councilman, Deputy
Supv. 3,500. ---- 3,500.
Robillard, Harold Councilman 3,250. ---- 3,250.
Sawn, Gerald Assessor ` 9,540. 100. 9,640.
Shenk, Shirley Confidential Sec. 8, 798. ---- 8, 798.
VanDusan, Ralph' Chemist 10,600. 350. 10, 950.
Merlow, Peter F. PT.Clerk(Assessor)2 ,200. ---- 2,200.
POLICE
Berry, Joseph Patrolman 9, 264. 392. 9,656.
Bott, Steven Patrolman 9,264. ---- 9,264.
Cleveiand, Larry Patrolman 9,264. ---- 9,264.
Comstock, David Acting Sargent 10, 462. 200. 10, 662.
Dee, James Patrick' Patrolman' 9,264. 400. 9, 664.
Hall, David N. Patrolman 9,264. 164. 9,428.
Hull, David C. Patrolman 9,264. 392. 9,656.
Morey, Jay David Sergeant 10,462. 400. 10, 862.
Ogden, James F. Sergeant 10,462. 400. 10,862.
,T Schlierer, Gilbert Chief of Police 12 ,000. 400. 12 ,400,!
Stannard, George Sergeant 10,462. 400. 10,862.
GENERAL HOURLY RATE INCREMENT
Bennett, Edward Working Foreman 4.46 400.
Bowman, Edith PT. Typist 3.08 ----
Cutter, David Labor A. 3067 1:67
Fish, Judith- J. Operator/Typist 3.08 64
Hunter, Mary L. PT. Clerk (Zoning) 3. 08 ----
Kidney, James M.E.O. 3. 86 208.
Montgomery, James Cleaner 3. 37 64.
Stockwell, Karen Clerical 3. 08 92.
Vanderwarker, Jackie Deputy Rec. of Taxes 3. 08 ----
Legault, Daniel Research 4. 70 ----
POLICE
Scellen, Kevin Dispatcher 3.08 ----
Cooney, Ernest Dispatcher 3. 08 84.
Jordan, " Larry Dispatcher 3. 08 ----
Waters, John Dispatcher 3. 08 40.
Perkett, Mary School Crossing Guard 8. 00 per day ----
Davies , Stanley School Crossing Guard 8. 00 per day ----
PINEVIEW CEMETERY
Bombard, James Labor A. 3. 67 ----
Matraw, Edward Labor A. 3. 67 ----
Engwer, Robert H.E.O. 4. 11 224.
HIGHWAY
Arnold, Frank M.E.O. 3. 86 256.
Blair, Joseph M.E.O. 3. 86 192.
Chatterton, Loren Labor A. 3. 67 400.
Counter, James M.E.O. 3. 86 232.
Dufour, Ronald M.E.O. 3. 86 140.
Havens, Ronald Labor A. 3. 67 400.
Howe, Charles M.E.O. 4. 11 600.
Hughes , William Jr. M.E.O. 4.11 600.
Johnson, John Labor A. 3.fi7 400.
Keller, Fred Mechanic 4.46 ----
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EMPLOYEE NAME TITLE HOURLY RATE INCREMENT
Manney, Edward M.E.O. 3•A6 500.
Manning, George M.E-�'10. 3.11 400.
Morehouse, Terry Labor B. 3.15 ----
Rymkewicz, Beverly Clerk/Typist 3. 08 ----
Skellie, Ernest M.E.O. 3. 86 208.
South, Eugene M.E.O. 3. 86 56.
Stockman, Gordon Mechanic 4.46 400.
Trombley, Timothy Labo' A. 3. 67 48.
Voorhis , Everett Labor A. 3.67 56.
Martindale, Irving Labor A. 3. 67 ----
Garb, Charles ' Labor A. 3.67 ----
WATER DEPT.
Allen,Steven' WaMoff.R. , 3.88 124.
Brothers , Ralph Labor A. 3. 67 124.
Burch, Timothy Labor A. 3. 67 156.
Carpenter, George Mechanic 4.46 ' 256.
Cartier, Donald W.T.P.O. 4.08 72.
Coon, David Ass 't Foreman 4.27 304. `
Finch, George' W.T.P.O. ' 4.08 72.
Hamell, A. Rene W.T.P.O. 4. 08 316.
Lilly, Robert W.M. Foreman 4.46 300.
Martindale, Russell Labor A. 3.67 172.
Merlow, Peter M. W,M.M.II 3.86 248.
Missita, Richard Labor A: 3. 67 56.
Ogle , Donald W.T.P.O. 4.08 80.
Phillips , Stanley Senior Account Clerk 3. 86 400.
Polzer, Linda Jean Clerk 3. 08 ----
Seelye , Michael W.T.P.O. 4. 08 180.
Vincent, Joyce Clerk 3. 08 92 .
White, Claude W.M.M.I. 4. 11 500.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes : Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes: Mr+: Olson
Absent: None '
RESOLUTION REGARDING PAYMENT OF UTILITY BILLS
.RESOLUTION NO. 22. Introduced by Mr. Michel Brandt who moved its adoption,
seconded by Mr. 'Hammond Robertson:
WHEREAS , the utility bills such as Niagara Mohawk and the N.Y. Telephone
consistently show an overlap in billings because of the payment schedule
used by the Town of Queensbury, Now, Therefore be it
RESOLVED, that the bills from these corporations be paid as soon as they
Are received by' the Town Clerk and with Department Head approval , and be
entered in the 'regular monthly abstracts.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes : Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Noes : None
Absent: None
RESOLUTION TO APPOINT MEMBER TO THE QUEENSBURY CONSERVATION ADVISORY
COUNCIL
RESOLUTION NO 23 Introduced b y Mr. Michel Brandt who moved its
adoption, seconded by Mr. Robert Barber:
WHEREAS , there exists a vacancy on the Queensbury Conservation Advisory
Council, and
WHEREAS, Mr. Robert'3Webster of 2208 Regency Park, Queensbury, has expressed
A desire to be a member of this council, Now, Therefore, be it
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby appoints
Mr. Robert Webster of 2208 Regency Park, Queensbury for a term to begin
on January IL4h,' 1977 and to expire on January 4*.t,. 1978.
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Ltr. Highway
January 3, 1977
Queensbury Town Board
Town of Queensbury
Bay and Haviland Roads
Gentlemen:
I am recommending the appointment of Floyd Martindale for the position of
Deputy Highway Superintendent for the y ear of 1977.
Sincerely yours,
/s/
L CAG/bjr Carl A. Garb
Highway Superintendent
Ltr. Supervisor
January 4, 1976
Twwn Board
Town of Queensbury
Gentle n:
Pursuant: to Section 29, Subdivision 15, of the Town Law, of the State of
NewYO.rk, I hereby appoint, Mr. Theodore Merrill, as Bookkeeper for the
Town o t Queensbury, for the year 1977.
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Sincerely,
/s/
Michel, R. Brandt
Supervisor
MRB/sbs
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Ltr. z Supervisor
January 3, 1977
Town, Board
Town of Queensbury
Gentlemen:
Pursuant to Section 29, Subdivision 15 , of the Town Law of the State
of New York, I hereby appoint Mrs. Shirley B. Shenk of 9 Pershing Road,
Glens Falls , New York, as my Confidential Secretary, for the year 1977.
Sincerely,
/s/
Michel R. Brandt
Supervisor
MRB/sbs
Ltr. Supervisor
January 4, 1977
1 To: Town Board
From: Michel R. Brandt
Gentlemen:
Pursuant to Article III of the Town Law, of the State of New York, I
hereby appoint, Hammond Robertson, Cleverdale, New York, as my deputy Super-
visor, for the year 1977.
Sincerely,
/s/
Michel R. Brandt
Supervisor
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Supervisor' s Office
January 1, 1977
To: Town Board
Town of Queensbury
Bay at Haviland Roads
Glens Falls , New York 12801
Gentlemen:
Pursuant to Section 63 of the Town Law of the State of New York,
I hereby appoint the following committees to aid and assist the Town
Board in the performance of its duties during the year 1977, with
the first person named to serve as chairman in each case;
Highway (Including Drainage) Robillard Brandt
Water Supply Robertson Robillard
Solid Waste Disposal Robillard Brandt
Sewerage Olson Barber
Fire Protection Barber Robertson
Police (including Traffic Safety) Barber Brandt
Cemeteries Olson Robertson
Town Development (Including - Planning
Zoning - Promotion) Brandt Robertson
Assessments Robillard Olson `
Recreat&nn Robertson Brandt
Beautification Olson Robillard
Town Buildings Robertson Olson
Lighting Robillard Barber
Libraries Barber Robertson;
Elections Olson Robillard
Health & Conservation Advisory
Council Olson Barber
Insurance Brandt Robillard
Personnel Robertson Brandt'
Legislative Brandt Robillard
Senior Citizens Barber 'Robillard
Sincerely,
/sr
Michel R. Brandt
RESOLUTION TO SET SALARY SCHEDULE
RESOLUTION NO. 21, Introduced by Mr. Hammond Robertson who moved its
adoption, seconded by Mr. Robert Barber:
RESOLVED, that the salary of each Town Officer set forth in the
following schedule be and hereby is fixed at the amount specified.
1977 SALARY SCHEDULE
Duly adopted by the following vote :
Ayes : Mr. Olson, Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson , Mr. Brandt
Noes : None
Absent: None
RESOLUTION TO AMEND SALARY SCHEDULE
RESOLUTION NO. 24 Introduced by Mr. Daniel Olson who moved its adoption,
secon e y r, arold Robillard:
i WHEREAS, Councilman Olson wishes o have withdrawn from the Salary
Schedule the names of Shirley Shenk and Theodore Merrill for the
purpose of discussing the proposed salaries, Now, Therefore be it
RESOLVED, the names of Shirley Shenk and Theodore Merrill be withdrawn
from the Salary Schedule.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Olson
Noes : Mr. Barber, Mr. Robillard, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Brandt
Absent: None
DISCUSSION
Councilman Olson- my reasoning is I want to hold on the Salary schedule
as set forth but I feel that the 10,692 dollars that you set down for
your bookkeeper is too high of a salary. I would like to have a salary below
that figure, I would hope under the $10,000 dollar figure also I feel that
your salary for your confidential secretary is tophigh at $8798. 00 I would
like you to reduce that figure down, if. you feel you need a confidential
secretary, and it is your appointmentalong with the bookkeeper I will not
argue that point with you. I would like a reduced salary on those two.
Supervisor Brandt-What do you think is right, a dollar a year?
Councilman Olson- No, I do not think a dollar a year,is right, I am looking
at the salaries that we have for Clerk Typist at 3. 08 an hour, 3. 10,
$6, 000. 00 $6,500. 00 a year. I think that I am being realistic for the
amount of work and the duties of that job.
Councilman Robillard-I have had several complaints since the news broke
in regard to the cost of the operation of the joint Queensbury-Glens Falls
Landfill. The citizenery of Queensbury is very upset by the fact that
we projected in the first talks that with--out a doubt there would be no
fee, the individual home owner taking his bag of garbage to the landfill ,
and a slight fee for a person who may visit the sight with a pickup truck
or vehicle of that nature. Since then through negotiations between the
landfill committee o£: the county, they shave come up with a fee schedule of
$20. 00 and I feel that this is a ridiculous charge, I just think that you
are going to be forcing people^make more trips up the pole lines and back
roads and dropping off_ their garbage in the woods of West Glens Falls and
other areas of the Town. " I feel that you; as our elected representative
on the County level, should fight. this charge and bring it back down to
proportion, a five dollar a year charge would not be bad, but I think $20.00
per year is ridiculous. I think it- is a burden on the taxpayer and it is
not going to achieve the aim of the project and we will find more and more
garbage strewn about our Town.
Councilman Olson- I agree with what Councilman Robillard has said Mike,
in the original discussion that we had in the City of Glens Falls Common
Council, our Board and the County, it was my understanding that we were
coming up with some fees to charge commercial haulers, people with a large
pick up truck or a stationwagon full of trash and things, but I think a
$20. 00 dollar fee for some of our citizens who only make one or two trips
to the landfill a month or less is a pretty high fee to be taxing the people.
Plus we have already raised a considerable amount of money on the budget this
year for the operation of the landfill. I would support Harold' s recommend-
ation that you do everthing you can as our Town Supervisor on a County
Board of Supervisors and at the meeting they have on the. refuse agency
to get this $20. 00 fee reducdd and come up with a more reasonable pay scale
schedule for our citizens of the Town.
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Supervisor Brandt- First of a11, I was not at the sub-committee meeting
that discussed charges to the landfill , however, I think everybody should
be aware that to properly run a landfill we have got to buy a compactor,
we have got to buy a front end loader, we have got to buy some equipment
to run a transfer station, all in all, all that equipment will cost in the
neighborhood of $500,000. We can project that , it is pretty clbse�-to
that. That money has to be repaid, the law of New York State is requiring
that this landfill *they we run it alone or in unison with someone else,
has to be run in a better manner than it has been. It is going to cost
more to run it, there is no question, somebody has to pay that. It has,
either has to come out of general fund in taxes or it has got to come out
of individual user fees. Most certainly if we don' t charge people for
individual use fees and charge the commercial hauler then there won't be
any commercial haulers in this Town in very short order. They can not
pick up that cost out of their margins of operations. I think that in
short order what you will see is most everybody delivering their garbage
to the dump individually. I am not sure that is a very responsible approach
because there is going to be a lot of garbage strewn along the roads, you
are going to be putting an extra thousand dollars a day on the weekend
on Ridge Road, people that live in that neighborhood are going to be
pretty irate about that. I think there are a lot of considerations here
that have to be weighed in making an intelligent decision, I wish we could
do this for nothing, I wish there were no":costs , but all the wishing in the
world isn' t going to change the realities that we are going to have to
run a better landfillby. law, and that it is going. to cost money to run that,
and we are going to have to raise that money in some manner. I certainly
can sympathize that people are not eager to see taxes increased and to see
fees increased, on the other hand, we have a responsibility to properly run
our landfill and I think it is our obligation as an essential service. I
do not know the answer, I think we need everybodies input and then we have
to make a respnnsible decision on it.
Councilman Robillard- I do not know the answer myself, but I feel the
$20. 00 fee has generated a considerable amount of controversy within this
town, and I just feel we are not going to achieve our aim,, and that is
to get our trash to the landfill, and not in our woods and in our roads.
Maybe it was our fault by the fact that during discussions we projected
that there would be no charge to the individual person that is going to
the landfill, more than once that was said at this Town Board level.
Then all of a sudden it goes to the County Level and here we have it ,
that you are going to be charged $20. 00 a year, I think this was wrong
on our part. to project that, if it wasn't right maybe we should have had
more. study.
Supervisor Brandt- That is a subcommittee recommendation at this point.
Councilman Robillard- It is a recommendation at this point, now is the
time that we are going to have to . . . if we are going to do anything with it.
I just feel the twenty dollar charge is going to lead to utter chaos and
we are going to have all kinds of problems and we will be spending $50,000
a year for a cleanup crew within our town.
Today Councilman Barber was taken apart pretty badly in an editorial in the
Post Star and I have always respected Councilman Barber as a man on integrity
and I have never seen him involved in any wrong doings but I have some,
strong, strong feelings in regard to the landfill situation, maybe because
it was topped with these enormous fees and then by the fact is that one
of our own, you might say� ends up with a temporary contract. I just strongly
feel, nothing against Councilman Barber' s integrity, but I just feel ethically,
he should not be involved at this point. I think that if he chooses to
. be involved in this magnitudes then he should take some serious action
as to his serving on this Town Board.
LETTER
January 4, 1977
Donald Chase
Queensbury Town Clerk
Bay & Havi and Roads
Queensbury, New York'-
Dear Don:
I hereby submit my resignation as Queensbury Town Councilman effective
January 5, 1977.
This action is necessitated as the result of increased respon-
sibilities as news editor of The Saratogian/Tri-County News
and my desire to spend more time with my family.
The Town of Queensbury is one of the fastest growing commu-
ities in New York State and to plan for this challenge it
takes considerable time and energy. I, on the other hand,
find it more and more difficult to find the time necessary to
meet my obligations as an elected representative of the Town
of Queensbury.
The decision to resign was not an easy one to make, but in the
final analysis is the only one I could make in fairness to the
voters of the Town, who elected me to office on three occasions
and to my family.
This decision can not- be revoked.
I can truly say that the past nine years have been rewarding
in the sense of progress , especially when you reflect for a
moment and vision the water treatment plant and the police-
highway complex, not to mention the "building" of a police
department .
I will miss not being involved with the continued planning of
Queensbury's future, but in all fairness I must step down and
make room for "new blood and new ideas."
In conclusion I would like to thank my colleagues on the Town
Board, to you Don for your friendship, and to all the employes
of the town, who are really devoted to the task of making ,
Queensbury A Better Place to live.
Thank you.
Harold Robillard
Councilman Robertson- All I can say, is this an off the cuff remark you,
are all aware this comes as a kind of surprise to everybody. The Town
of Queensbury is going to miss Mr. Robillard, I am going to miss him,
and all we can say Harold is Thanks for all the hours that you put in
and all the advice that you have given to us , there is nothing more we can
say.
Councilman Olson-I would like to add to what Councilman Robertson has said,
Harold is not going to -leave an empty chair there but a large cavity on the
Town Board which is -going to take a lot of time and a lot of work to fill
that chair, and I do not think anyone is going to fill that chair the way
Councilman Robillard has in his service to the Town and with his experience
and his ability that.-he has been able to give to us as to Town Board members
and to the Supervisor on -the problems of the Town in the last eight or nine
years in the past and what we ,have in the future. Harold, we are going to
miss you as a friend and a Councilman.
Councilman Barber- Although I did not agree with Mr. Robillard in his first
point this evening, for various reasons , I too am quite taken back by this
announcement. For six years it has been my very thn enjoyment to serve
with Harold Robillard and I am not normally at a loss for words but I find
that if I am lost for words this town is got a deeper and. longer loss. It
is a shame to see you go Harold and we will miss you deeply, and I wish you
well and I hope your aspirations treAchieved in the future.
Councilman Robillard- I appreciate you comments.
Supervisor Brandt- I have only had one year to work with Harold, I know
he has been a very busy man, his time is very dear but I also know he
certainly gave of his time for this Town, and I know he always looked out
for the best interest of all the people in the Town. He was never serving
himself, he gave a lot of good ideas in my short term here, constructive
ideas to the town, and I think it is too bad to, lose--. a man of that quality,
from government. It is too bad to have you resign-but I also respect the
tremendous drain on your time to be involved, and I wish you the very best
in the future.
Councilman Robillard- I appreciate that.
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OPEN FORUM
Supervisor Brandt- reviewed the present operation of the Queensbury
Landfill, commenting that there is now no fee and Queensbury residents
can use the Luzerne Road site. . .The Thsreyii3as a subcommittee stu ng
fee schedules their recommendations go to the refuse committee and then
to the County Board of Supervisor' s for consideration.
It has been the concensus of the Refuse Committee that if you charge
people for the refuse they produce, they are apt to produce a little
less. There is a certain amount of logic in not setting a' fee schedule
that will end up causing a lot of people to dump their refuse along the
roads and for-►est which at some point we have to pay to clean up.
Thomas Murphy-County Supervisor-Commended all involved in the concept
of the Queensbury Glens Falls Landfill— strongly objected to the
proposal of the payment schedule for the landfill. . .Individuals would
pay $20.00 a year to dump . . . Haulers would have to pay 5 .00 dollars a
ton to dump commented on one hauler that will have to pay $100.00 dollars
a day to use the landfill. . .there will he no way local haulers will be
able to stay in business. I disagree with Harold, Mr. Barber put his bid in
for a one month contract and saved the County or the Town or the City $1300.00
I think he probably has the only equipment around here that may or may not
handle this for one month or it is going to be a temporary situation for
three months. The only reason I bring this up because, if, Mr. Barber, being
a local citizen is not allowed to snake a bid on a contract, then you people
may not be able to make a bid on a contract and pretty soon all the local
refuse haulers are going to be out of business, in the Town of Queensbury
and the City of Glens Falls and you are going to see them bidding from down
in Albany or you are going to see .them bidding down in Kingston. Rather
than giving a local person a shot yoi*re going to end up like some of the
Cities down there with the m4.fia running the refuse outfits for you.
Commented on the many calls he had received and the people noted that they
feel as if they are subsidizing the -City of Glens Falls to have them use
the Queensbury Landfill. The 400 ,000 dollars for the landfill does not
include the equipment. . .as far as the Supervisors and I hope Mr. Brandt you
feel the same way- if we can go to the County Board and make it more equ S:,&ble
for the people of the Town of Queensbury to run the landfill and not have
us pay for it. totally.
Les.; Baird-Whw gave the Town Baard the right to take our land that we
pay taxes on and turn it over to the County for may be a dollar or nothin
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Is this a law of the State of New York/that a county has to run it when it
is joint?
Supervisor Brandt-There are two mech*isms you can use for a joint landfill. . .
the decision was to go with a joint landfill. . .1. under the county law
which allows the county operation as it is set up. . .it is well understood
within the County Supervisors that this is a temporary answer, that in the
long run we are going to try and go the second mechanisms which is a much
more lengthly legal procedure 2. That is to create a refuse district, that
refuse district would be the Town and the City, or any other municipality
that wanted to join on .a negotiated basis. This takes approximately a year
to establish and takes the vote of all the people . The County said here,
this is the legality you can use this, don' t forget the County is easily
controlled by the joint vote of the City and the Town so it is not a matter
of somebody trying to dictate to us what they want to do it is really
a mechanism for us to utilize to do what we want to do. It has been a
generous act on all the parts of the county legislators to* aco mdate us
here. There are new regulations which the State of New York has mandated
which in effect is saying you are not going to run a landfill as you
have in Queensbury in the past. We know that regulations in effect _..%
saying that just to do the necessary en ineering to comply with that
law the Town of Queensbury is facing a $50,000 expenditure if it ran
its own landfill in the very near future. We also know we would have
to provide a compactor which is about a $100,000 dollar vehicle, we also
know we would have to cover on a better basis than what we have, 'providing
covering material and there is machinery involved there. By going a joint
landfill there is, we are doing away with the duplicity of equipment,
duplicity of engineering and there is genuine economics. What we are really
saying that there are increased in cost because of mandated state law that
is coming into effect and we have to face this In effect what the State
is saying is that we are not going to run a landfill thgt pollutes the
ground water anymore, you are going to start to become ature to your
environment. I think that is a healthy thing for us to respect, I think it
is high time that we stopped taking a neighborhood and saying OK you poor
souls, you are now the dump and everybody just throws their trast there,
and degrades that neighborhood. I think we have got to run a landfill in
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a responsible manner where we can look at it and say that it is a good
sensible operation and we do the very best job that can be done, with
the problem we have got. It costs more,we have got to pay, itJ we can not
ask somebody else to pay it, in the end we are going to pay it. Whether
we pay it from general taxation or whether we pay it from a use fee is
the question as far as us subsidizing the city in this, that is not true.
The City has agreed to pay 60% of the cost above and beyond the fees
that are collected the Town is paying 40% and that is to reflect the fact
that we are providing the site, and we are providing the cover material
for that site. Nobody wants to- pay more then what we are paying and I
certainly don't either. Nobody wants to go around and say you have to pay
more, nobody wants to anteqnize the public and say litter our forests, litter
our neighborhoods
,, we are the damn fools if we do it to ourselves , it is our
Town. If is a very disrespectful act if we do it. We have got to be respnn-
sible we want to structure something that works and we are going to structure
something that works and we want the input. Certainly there is some economy
for the people in the area of West Glens Falls t6 have access to a transfer
station at the Luzerne Road site. Certainly we want to encourage most
of that material to be hauled by a large truck to go up the interstate and
down 149 which is already handling truck traffic and down Ridge Road from
149. This was the- design to keep a lot of people from having to drive
to that site, because that would destroy that section of town. We do not
want to destroy it we have got to be responsible to everybody these are
considerations and I just put them out for your information and we need your
input.
Les Baird-commented that he would like to see just the Town of Queensbury
and the City run the landfill not the County but felt that one year for
this possibility was unrealistic.
Supervisor Brandt- We can only go by what our attornes tell us. . .Another
bit of misinformation, the County has to provide within its funding monies
to run this landfill that is a legal thing it must do. I do not think
there is a man alive that know what it is going to cost to run this landfill.
We have never done it before, we do not really know how much refuse the two
communities generate, we have some estimates,we have taken counts, we have
taken as close a figure as we can find,,but until --we start rtmning this across
a set of scales and find out what it is, it is an unknown quan*tity. Certainly
the day we start charging for the use of the landfill there are commercial
�-' haulers that are going to say, I am not going to that landfill, I am going o
Kingsbury,I am going to do to some other landfill. This is going to cause
a stress on our neighboring communities and they are going to have to re-
spond pretty much the same way we do or they are going to. have all our
refuse which is certainly not what we want to create. There are a multitude
of problems and we have been working for a year on this.,we certainly want
the input.
Glen Gregory-West Glens Falls-Agree with the concept of a joint landfill
but not with the County in on it. 1. Is Finch and Pruyn going to pay
$5. 00 a ton to get rid:- of their refuse? 2. We have three town employees
two are done, one has been there eight years. 3. We take sand from the
landfill for our roads we are now going to have to pay the county for the
sand. . .
Supervisor Brandt-1. We get sand out of that pit, and we will continue to
do so, for our own use. 2. All of the amployeesnwere working for the town,
in the landfill were terminated„ I `believe two of them applied to work
for the countyjl do not know what the status is on Mother they were hired or
not hired. 3. Finch and Pruyn has been notified that we desire not to take
their material in the landfill because it composes the greatest volume that
we see in that landfill. ENCON has informed both Finch Pruyn and us that
thetr material does not have to go into a landfill because it does not
represent the general type of garbage that goes into the landfill. Finch
and Pruyn is trying very hard to find an answer to that themselves they
are trying to find another site for the disposal of their materials and I
think it is our obligation to help them, because they are an employer of a
lot of people in the Town and in the City. We have to be responsible to
them they are also very large taxpayers in the community. We are going to
help them find that but- •-` the answer is not to dump it in our landfill and
cause a large increase in our cost of operating our landfill.
The fees will be the same for everybody.
Mr. Walter Stamper- You gave us the figure of 500,000 dollars I presume
that is the initial set up? You also mentioned a compactor and a front
end loader, what does the 500, 000 entail?
Supervisor Brandt- There are several figures being batted around Supervisor
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Murphy was talking a possible operational cost, that is estimated.
One thing is going to be added to the operational cost is the
cost of equipment to run it. The other costs are the transfer station,,
the vehicles to haul the materials from the transfer station.
Mr. Walter Stamper- questioned the k million dollars as being a lot of money
for the initial set up.
Unknown- questioned the need for large equipment stating that smaller less
expensive equipment could do the job. . .
Jack Rozell- commented that he did not like the landfill being run by
the County and Queensbury Dosing control over it. . . voiced opposition
to the twenty dollars a year and felt that the spring clean up would
be very expensive due to the fee at the landfill. . .felt that the Town
residents were being penalized for taking in the City of Glens Falls.
Daniel Gealt-In regard to Mr. Barber' s bid as far as the transfer station,,;
as far as I was able to read the information to the public might be wrong,
but as far as I was able to read Mr. Barber had the advantage of knowing
what all the other bids were when he did make his bid, that is what I read
in the paper, it might be wrong it might be right, but that should be
clarified. I can not see how it is fair if there has to be a charge to use
the landfill I do not see how it is fair to charge a man who is paying a
hundred dollars in property taxes) twenty percent more to take his trash
to the dump- and I pay about five to six hundred dollars a year in taxes and
the twenty dollars to me is only a four percent increase in what I have to
pay to live in Queensbury. for a man who is paying one hundred dollars or
less than one hundred dollars is a twenty percent increase, you have to have
a fee for the dump it should not be a flat fee. I cannot see how charging
for the. dump will produce less rubbagejunless you are charging by the pound
you are not going to cut back on it at all.
Supervisor Brandt-' I was not at the meeting you mentioned, so I cannot
respond to your question on bidding.
John Bowman—Farm to Market Road-Was our taxes reduced by that amount
in the 77 budget? (referring to the 20. 00 dollars)
Supervisor Brandt- No.
John Bowman-We will be charged through taxation as well as we might
be charged $20. 00 . noted that he felt that if Queensbury and Glens
Falls joine#no-.body. should be coming in from other areas. ' -.,Felt that
the Town Boards over the years have had the time to strs.ighteri out
the landfill but never took the bull by the horns to try and straighten
it, felt it was a shame to have the county involved in what was really
Queensbury's problem and with this extra money that we are going to have
to pay we would have had a beautifully, run landfill , if we could run the
landfill and have Glens Falls contract with us , I do not know why it could
not work.
Peter Tarana-Edgewood Drive-reviewed the figures of budgeted monies for
each seperate landfill and what will be paid to the county for one landfill. . .
noted personnel-'V figures will be going up 2.2 times as much for the landfill. .
1. Do we collect additionalfrevenues from Hercules? They are using our
landfill also. 2. What efffect will Hercules and Glens Falls have on the
life time of the landfill? 3. Can we anticipate the cost and location
of a new dump? 4. Does our Board have any control over the fees paid
by the Town of Queensbury residents or have we relinquished all of that
control to the county?
Supervisor Brandt-In weighted votes on the County Board you will see
the Supervisor' s of Queensbury and the Supervisor' s of the City have
very strong control of what the County does. If the Supervisor' s of the ---
Town and the City want something to happen., it will happen. I think in
effect we still have control of our destiny even through this mechanism:.
You asked what .is going to happen to the life expectancy of the landfill,
you look at one landfill, there are two., they are both in Queensbury, What
was the life expectancr of the one on Luzerne Road, how much higher can we
go on it?
Peter Tarana- I am talking about the one on Ridge Road.
Supervisor Brandt- That is in the Town of Queensbury and I feel that , that
is our landfill,, also because it is for our citizens to look at and for our
citizens to have their houses in the shadows of it. It also was in the
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Town of Queensbury, and I do not think you can forget that, I couldn't.
I felt that we had to have a responsible answer for both of them. In effect
the Tovii of Queensbury has the sight for the landfill for both communities.
I think that is a fact we had to face, and we had to solve it, we couldn't
sit there and shout at each other and try and make a big emotional issue of
it, to look at it in a narrow view. The fact is that it existed in the Town
and we tried to address ourselves to it and we have tried to apply to that.
As far as the cost of operation, I told you, we don't really know. We did
our damndest to provide a mechanism,we are going to responsibly run it.
We are not going to throw away money, it is certainly not our history to do
that. The people that are working there haven't been given any great increases
in pay over what has been paid in the past. Whatever is spent there will be
fully accountable everybody can find the figures, they will be open to the
public and we are not going to waste money if we can avoid it. We are going
to do our very best to run it/as we know how. We are learning everyday from
what we are doing there, as we start to run the transfer station we will
start to know how much material we are actually handling . We do not know
teat today. You look at our budget and say our budget was 45 ,000 dollars
or what ever the figure is or what the City budget was, I wish we had
cost accounting in the Town like we do in Industry, we do not. There is
equipment, there is personnel , there is swapping from one place to another,
we do not do tight cost accounting, that is something we need to do in
time. In the City's budget there are items that they do not account for,
in there landfill, we know in all candor the cost of running our landfill
probably was higher than what was in our budget. It is pretty hard to
identify exactly how much, the man that ran the landfill had to take care
of all the roads in the town, he had a lot of responsibilities, he had his
hands full. Unless we want to pay for cost accounting we do not get it.
These are problems we have to cope with, again they will not go away, we
wish they were not the situation. As far as the budgets that were provided
all we did was in the County was to provide a mechanism for paying bills
when we provide a mechanism we do not say we are going to spend every cent
that was allocated or provided for'. This money isn't being spent out of
the County Treasury, except it is being forwarded and we as a- Town and as
a City are going to have to reimburse it, that is covered in the Contract.
We are damn well interested in how the money is being spent. We are not
looking to buy equipment that we do not need, I think that the suggestion of
equipment whether we need a hpgi ' pieue of machinery or a small piece of
machinery, we have got to look at that. I am not an expert in all these
things I do not claim to have all these answers. I think that is good input
though. We also know government isn't a model of efficiency it isn' t a
model of productivity, the committee from the beginning has said that if we
can find somebody to run it on a contract basis , we might be better, off,
dollar wise. That. is a committment that ted6ilttea hai nadr to itself a long
time ago, we are not trying. to create a new bureaucracy, a new kingdom,a
new patronage sy'stem,,we are trying to run a landfillias best we know how.
John Bowman- questioned that if the landfill was'run on a contract basis
why wouldn't the equipment be brought in by the person contracting?
Supervisor Brandt- We pay for that. Technically *they the County does it
or whether we do it, the County will do it, we contract for the total cost
including the cost of capital equipment for running it.
Peter Trana- Do we collect additional revenues from Hercules and Glens Falls
to compensate us for the decreased lifetime of our dump?
Supervisor Brandt- They pay like any other taxpayer in the Town.
Peter Tarana- What effect will Hercules and Glens Falls use have on the dump?
Supervisor Brandt Certainly they will reduce it.
Peter Tarana- questioned why there were not some ball park figures on this .
Supervisor Brandt- noted that Hercules is a taxpayer of the Town and questionel
why not isolate eve'lone out.
Peter Tarana- questioned about Glens Fills?
Supervisor Brandt- Glens Falls is an a contractual relationship to work
together.
Peter Tarana- Do we know the life time expei&en ; r the landfill on Ridge
Road? Do we have anticipated cost of, and locatiions of new landfills for
Queensbury?
Supervisor Brandt- The reason we -went into a joint answer is to try and get
21.0 into reducing .the volume that has to go into the landfill. Resource
recovery, we know that is expensive but in the long run we have to go
that route because the Town of Queensbury certainly is going to run out
of sites. We do not have enough sites to go in forever. We know we have
to answer the question in time and that is why we tried to design a joint
venttme that we could bring other municipalities into so that someday .we
could recycle enough material, bring enough refuse together to7make it
economically feasible to reprocess it and to take out the fuel and take
out the metals and get them recycled and cut the volumn of the material
and bury a much smaller volumn and ecologically a much less dangerous
material.
Peter Tarana- We do not have anticipated cost and locations of new dumps.
As a Board does our Board have any control over the fee schedule?
Supervisor Brandt- reviewed the refuse committee. . .legally the supervit-
sorts can not relinquish their voting right to that agency . . . there is
no way they want to run our landfill and dictate policy to us. They
will honor the requests of that committee . I am confident that, if that r.�
joint committee requests something from the County Board, the County Board
will do its upmost to deliver what that agency requests.
Peter Tarana- Can you tell me the percentage of total votes the Town of
Queensbury has on the Warren County Board of Supervisor's , is it a majority?
Supervisor Brandt- I can not tell you that— it is not a majority.
Peter Tarana- requested that a answer be made in regard to the question of
Mr. Barber's bid. . .
Councilman Robertson-I will answer your question as best as I can. I know
I will not change anybodies mind. I was present at all the meetings of the
agency. It- starts a week ago last t-hur;day at, which time the basis date of
transfer or operational date for the County Board was agreed upon by the
Committee. We said that would be the weekend of January 1st. The question
became then what do we do with the West Glens Falls landfill , the immediate
reaetaozavas well, we will just shatt it down and that is it until we can
get our transfer stations in. When is that going to be? Well by the
time we get the engineering done and more things decided and some
questions that you have asked here that there are still not answers to,
it is six to eight weeks, or ten weeks. We do not want to operate two
places we do not have the equipment to continue operating , the City has
a problem with theirs we. have a problem with ours. We gave the job to the
cnnsulting engineer to come up with some alternatives. Some . of the suggestiors
were that we use some old trucks of the Town, some old trucks of the County,
and so forth, and we would only have it open on Saturday and a few things
like that. It did not take very long for any of us thinking that, that really
was not a solution, nor was it a solution to just shut the place, and
say everybody go to Ridge Road. We have had some real thoughts about
traffic on that road. Last Thursday, as part of the discussions it came
up, the question was again asked what. are we going to do with Glens Fels.
We asked the consulting engineer what suggestions he had, He said, I called
this morning a guy in Albany, and I asked him to give me a budget price
for what it would cost to put two compactors in at the West Glens Falls
site. This 13 Thursday morning, the guy has never been to Glens Falls,
he says, I think I have a couple in the yard�but is will cost you about. .
And he threw out a number. And the engineer threw out that number, now, if
that is a bid, I will leave it up to your determination, whether it is or
it is not a bid. Those are the circumstances which existed at the time ,
and we said alright if it is in that ball park, we will consider putting
the compactors in on a temporary basis , because we feel as a service to
the people of West Glens Falls and a service to the people of Ridge Road
that we will make every effort to get compactors in and operating just as
soon as possible. At that point it is obvious at that point that you are
at least going to go to a local guy and give him a chance to put in a bid.
That is sum and substance and circumstances that surround these so called
quotation bid.
Claude Morehouse- 70 Boulevard-questioned what it costs the Town to pick
up garbage in the Spring. . .
Supervisor Brandt- overall cost for spring clean up is $20,000 approximate.
Mr. Gealt-You make it sound like Mr. Barber is doirigrus all a favor by
offering to take this trash from Mt. Trashmore to Ridge Road. I just
can' t see that, as far as I can tell from what was in the paper, there was
a bid produced in the neighborhood of 4,000 dollars it was opened, someone
said the bid is 4,000 dollars, and Mr. Barber said we can do it for
3200. 00. Now, I do foot know what business Mr. Barber is in, whether he
is qualified to do this kind of work, but the point I am trying to get
at is, that in the event Mr. Barber has ten weeks or something to find
exactly what it costs to haul trash from Luzerne Road to Ridge Road he
is going to be in an excellent position to put in a realistic bid for that
continued service. As far as I am concerned that is giving a Councilman
an added advantage -over all the other people in this town, that might be
qualified to bid• for that contract, I think it is unfair of the Town, to
accept Mr. Barber's offer, very generous offer I might add, to carry that
trash for 3200.00 dollars. I think it should have been opened to bids
by any company that wanted to bid, no matter how long it took rather than
have the Town Council and one of its members show up as a candidate for
a conflict of interest charge. I do not know what Mr. Barber had to do
with this thing, but I do know, as a Councilman, I can not see how it is
fair to give him that without other bidding.
Councilman Olson- I would like to clarify one thing, it is not the Town
Board or the Council here that awarded the contract to Mr. Barber, it
was Warren County. . .
Councilman Barber- I have never been at a loss for words and I do not need
anybody else to answer for me, I will answer you, Sir. First of all, I do,
own a substantial portion of a company that is involved in refuge handling
for industrial complexes, I guess , I do not know if Harley Hermance who
is in the audience , who is a very fine competitor of mine, and incidentally
we have some very very fine -healthy cartage companies in this area. I
fortunately or unfortunately being in the position that I am, am the largest
hauler on tonage per day to a landfill whether it be Hudson Falls , Queens-
bury or what ever. This $5. 00 per ton charge is going to effect my company
approximately $300. 00 dollars per day. I had the same concerns Harley
Hermance has , I have been doing business with Warren County for three years
up until the bid went out and I lost the bid to Morey trucking of Lake
George to collect the refuge at the Warren County Municipal Center and the
West Mountain Infirmary. At the time of the initial bid three years ago ,
because of my involvment in town government, I solicited an inquiry, I made
to the county attorney at the time who was Tom Lawson. I asked him if my
involvment on a bid basis with the county was a conflict of interest.He said
it was not, after some involvment in looking up the law. Now a little past
history, if I may explain and expand upon whit-11 Mr. Robertson has said.
One of the reasons why I have said nothing basically tonight, because I
— am really quite numb over the brutal. fashion that the Post Star took me
over the coals today in a very irresponsible manner. Primarily, I got a
telephone call last Thursday about a meeting that was going to be held at
the Warren County Municipal Center pertaining to rates. I got that call
approximately 20 minutes prior to that meeting and ?/heard that there were
going to be other haulers there. I had no intention of going to the meeting.
I got to the meeting and there were only two haulers there of which Mr.
Hermance was not one of them, the point I am saying, the point I am making,
is that the haulers were not invited in mass °to give their input. Mr.
Mabb and another hauler, I do not recall the gentleman's name, gave a
substantial amount of input, to those people there. We all indicated the
severe impact that it was going to have on all our businesses as far as
the tonage fee was concerned. When- the consulting engineer from Albany,
advised the County Refuse Agency, the County Board Chairman, Mr. Malone,
and various other people present, Mr. Rossen, the D.P.W. Supt, of Warren
Co, that there was a firm in Albany, by the name of Browning, Ferris, .
known as B.F. I. that could provide two 36 cubic yard containers with three
40 yard compactors. Somewhere in the vicinity of 42 to 44 hundred dollars
for a month period. The requirements called for two, 3 cubic yard compactors,
and twq 42 yard containers. I asked the engineer to break down his cost,
because I felt that it was rather high. I had indicated that it was rather
high, because of the amount of charges that were indicated by B.F.I. per
trip to the landfill, which were higher than what we are presently experienc-
ing in this area. To give you a little history of B.F. I.*is the world's
largest refuse hauler, they have a very traditional habit of going into a
community and eating up all the small haulers, as Harley Hermance will tell
you. Wle have enough problems with BFI here presently, Harley does not feel
the impact, I eat and sleep and compete with them everyday. I am a business
man in this community, I pay substantial taxes , I employ 27 people. With a
5. 00 charge per truck it is goring to cost my firm approximately 62,400.00
a year more to operate. In addition, we have a recycling facility down here
on Bay Road, which is a subject in. itself, I am sure with the residents of
that area, but a least we do one thing, we recycle 30 tons of wasteA- day
that goes back into manufacturing. Of that 30 tons, I generate 10 tons that
goes to landfills. Now that it is going to cost me 5.00 per ton for that
10 tons, and because there is a little marginal profit. in recycling, .
because people today are not recycling orientated and financially we have
taken a bath because of recycling, but because we have such an investment
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in it,,we are there. We can not have,, in the future, our recycling facility
in Queensbury because of the tonnage we generate as waste, we must go to
another community, we have already made that decision. Now, to expand upon
Councilman Robertson' s remarks after this short history. The county indicated
that they could not honor any bid whatsoever, in fact there was no bid
because it was an emergency situation deemed by the superintendent of the
DPW and the Refuge Agency to be operational on January 3, 1977 at the
Luzerne site. The most money that they could legally operate with was
3499.99, which is the limitation that the superintendent of the DPW had
to go out and lease equipment or operations from anybody. When the DPW
head asked me if I had the equipment to provide it, I said yes, we had the
equipment providing that the County Attorney, how now, incidentally,
and I being a Republican, and he is a Democrat , I asked him quite frankly
is it a conflict of interest? He says I am not sure, let me go check it,
he came back and indicated to the refuge agency, and. to the Supt. of
Public works , that it was not , I said if it was , I would not even consider -''
it, because I enjoy, even though it costs me money, if it was a conflict
of interest, and in all. good conscience, Sir, I would not have taken this
opportunity. I enjoy being a Town Couh.cilman, it has been controversial
at times. But I sit here tonight in all good conscience that I did the
proper thing. First of all I am providing 35,000 dollars worth of equipment
for a.one month duration at the Luzerne site. I am not going to make any
money out of it. The only reason that we are doing it, is primarily to
give the Luzerne Road site the proper equipment , and number two to keep
BFI out of here. Number three, the haulers , . this man out in back and myself
we have got to survive as small business men, and we certainly do not need
a hugh conglomerate in this community. I will stand on this record on these
words tonight, and I think that I have been very candid about it, I have
been very ethical about it and through this whole transitition period of
a year and a half I have been very carefui� extremely careful, about my
ethical standardsfmy position as a councilman in respect to what the
ultimate outcome could be. I indicated a year ago, if in the event, that
there was transfer stations we would be interested, and we would take
a position at that time. , providing that there was no conflict of
interest. I am chagrined, I sat here tonight kind of numb, because of
an editorial that I thought was brutal and irresponsible, and that is
another fact that I say to you, Sir, there was a newspaper man there
of one newspaper, the Tri County, there was no representative from the
newspaper that did for me personally an injustice today. I received today
an editorial which I felt was irresponsible. You pretty much took your
comments from that editorial.
Mr. Gealt-Pretty much, but now that I have your comments to go along to,
If BFI was asked to submit a price for doing a job according to a set of
specifications drawn up by an engineer, and they submitted that pride in
good faith, and you look at that and say it is not really necessary, I can
do it with less equipment, I can do the same job.
Mr. Barber-That is not the case, Sir. It was already indicated that the
equipment that BFI was going to provide was not to the engineer' s specs.
Mr. Gealt- Okay, you say that they did not provide what the engineer called
for.
Mr. Barber-I'll tell you one thing right now, and I tell everyone in this
audience, we are not making any money, we will probably lose money. I am
doing this as a service to the people because they wanted to be operations
January 3rd. I will terminate tomorrow, if it is the consensus because it
is really not worth the aggravation and the headache and the character
assassination that I have been going through, through the newspaper and
some of this audience tonight because of the bad, bad input from the
newspaper.
Mr. Gealt- I do not think, Sir, that it is character assassination I think
that it is the citizens of this community are trying to find that their
government does not have any appearance of conflict of interest, whether
or not you have a conflict of interest I do not know, because I do not
know what the truth is in this matter. As far as I am concerned I would
ready like to see this put out to bid by a number of companies and not
just. . .
Mr. Barber- It is .
Mr. Gealt- Alright it islit is going to, but you.,when that was put out
to bid to. all the haulers in the area including the man in the back,
you are going to end up with a lot of inside information you are going
to know exactly how much it is going to cost you to haul that . You are
going to be inta very good position to underbid all those other men to
have to buy their business.
Councilman Barber-Let me indicate to you one thing if I may Sir, the County
is determining everday how much pull we make with a particular equipment
that we are presently using. We haven't got the compactors in the ground
yet because there is three foot of frost at that particular site. We hope
that we can get the compactors in by the end of the week. It costs X
number of dollars in this industry to put down concrete. It costs X number
of dollars in this industry to buy compactors, whether it is me, Joe
Schmoltz or Daniell Olson, if he wants to buy a compactor it will cost him
just as much as it is me. It is going to -cost him just as much to pull
that truck . and operate that truck as it is me. You are going to know, every
operator who wants to bidlis going to know, exactly how many pulls were made
in that one month duration. I do not see what you are talking about an
edge on a competitive basis. Also it is the intent of the Refuge Agency
or at least the Supt. of Public works to have the County do their own
hauling. I tried to avoid , I did not think that this would come to this
point, where my intregrity and the situation would be challenged after the
County Attorney said there was no conflict of interest. Since it has
been challenged anybody is going to have those facts and figures available
to them. I personally want to see the County do the hauling, because I
do not want to be in the position where I may have BFI come in an under bid
everybody else, because I personally do not want BFI here. Because I feel
ultimately not only for my` own business but for the community it is going to
be a sad situation.
Mr. Gealt- I do not want to take up any more time at this meeting but I do
not feel that you have cleared this up at all.
Councilman Barber- That is unfair.
Joe Daire-Queensbury-questioned why this could have not been held up for
a few months and then let the bid out to local biddere?
Hart&ys Hermance-H&B Trucking- commented of the proposed hauling figures
noting that the commercial pickups could handle it but was worried about
the burden that it would place on the residential pickups. . .many residents
on fixed income and cannot afford the increase. . .
Councilman Barber- commenting on Mr. Hermance noted that the haulers must
get together and voice their opinion to the County and also the residents
of Queensbury.
Harieysi Hermance- questioned the need for such large equipment at the
Luzerne Road transfer station. . .
Councilman Barber- This is what the spec' s required. . .
Mrs. Judith Casey-questioned if the Luzerne Road site is to become a
transfer station , how is a recreations center going to be placed there?
Is there going to be an F''odor from this process?
Councilman Olson- reviewed the plans of the City for a recreation site. . .
There is not supposed to be an oodor from the transfer station I would
immagine in the summer time at 100 degrees there would be an :Odor.
Councilman Barber- there will be deodorizer on each compactor. . .
Supervisor Brandt- commented that the Transfer station would use approximately
one half acre of lands there are forty three acres in the plot. . . the transfer
` - station would be at the entrance of the landfill. . . there will be buildings
and steam cleaners at the site. . .the balance of the land would be available
for recreation.
Unknown- questioned why the land on Corinth Road had not been developed by
the town?
Supervisor Brandt- I can not answer that , there is a possibility the town
may be able to sell that. I can not tell you how much it will cost to
build a recreation area. . .I can tell you Mt. Trashmore isn' t growing
anymore, it is closed and it is better than it was . . .
Unknown- Asked if Finch Pruyn will be dumping on the Luzerne Road site?
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Supervisor Brandt- I can not tell you, I do not know where that information
came from.
Mr. Hermance- questioned if there would be vehicles or compactors at the
Luzerne Road site. . .
Supervisor Brandt- As the plan is right now,itis to go for bids for permanent
vehicles to be owned by the County, whether it will be operated by the
County is an option we have to look at or whether we will entertain bids
for the operation of it, it is our thinking that the County can borrow
money cheaper than an individual can or a business man can. The County
is paying 4k to . 5% interest and that kind of interest rates are just not
available to average citizens. The feeling was to buy the equipment
by the County and then to entertain bids for the operation and also to
analyse it, also to have the County operate it and to see which way we
are better off, as a community. The specs for the bids are being drawn up
I know I get involved in the discussion of those bids with Mr. Austin,
the engineer had recommended roll on equipment , I felt that we would be
far better off, to make it semi type of trailers so that it was not
tiod to any limited system. If there was ever any problem,and you needed
someone else to come in andhelp , that you could get bids from anybody
to come in. Tractor trailer type of equipment was more universal then roll
on equipment, I steared it in that direction so far, we need input, if you
have got ideas that are better, we would like to hear them.
Mr. Hermance- recommended using moveable equipment. . .
H. Russell Harris-Felt that the Town Board did not meet their obligations
as a Town Board in trying to have a landfill in the Town of Queensbury,
and if necessary to have the Cicy come in with it, that the City come in
with it, but kept it iSitha gechi ghe Town of Queensbury for the benefit of
the people of the Town of Queensbury and be operated at one third or
one quarter of the cost, you must have known the minute you turned it over
to a larger municipality that every time the price goes up, the State will
be next then it will be nine or ten thousand dollars instead of three or
four I only wish to say,that I think that you made one terrible mistake
in not taking a little more consideration for the people of the Town of
Queensbury.
Arthur Turnbull-Councilman Robillard, why were you not asked to participat
in the Warren Co. Refuge Agency? --y
Councilman Robillard- My. chief aim back in 1976 was to get the landfill
situation off from dead center, I did that through Court proceedings ,
and I felt- myself, in all fairness to. the City of Glens Falls and the
Town of Queensbury if anything was going to happen that it would be best
that I sit in the background seeing that I created such a furor to begin
with. . .
Arthur Turnbull- questioned that the landfill as it was, was to serve
the residents and business and industry of the Town, has there been
any abuse in the past of this?
Supervisor Brandt- we can speculate that there has been.
Arthur Turnbull- questioned if Warren Co. is running the landfill what is
to stop Warren Co. residents from using the landfill?
Supervisor Brandt- I do not know the answer to that.
Sylvia Dougher-questioned that the paper has shown that the town will
be paying. 80,000 dollars for the landfill but in the 1977 budget there
is only 40,000 dollars, where is the other 40,000 coming from and how _
is it going to be paid? Questioned if. any provisions have been made
for the.marker that is in the landfill? ?
Supervisor Brandt- the contract called for four payments per year for the
operating cost and one payment per year for the capital costs. . .we do have
reserve for capital costs in our budget, I believe it is 36,000 that can
be applied for the capital costs. . .
Councilman Barber- I looked into that yesterday. . .
Mrs. Monahan- questioned why there was not �-.,ore. consideration given to
the Granges proposal in regard to fee schedules. . .
Supervisor Brandt-commented that the commission figures on material going
to the landfill was less than the Granges prediction. . .
Mrs. Monahan- questioned if the commission had met with the Grange to
clarify figures?
Supervisor Brandt- I do not remember kho I offered it to�but,� I did make
that offer, to come to the Grange to speak with them. I have not been
invited yet.
Mrs. Monahan- questioned Mr. Harris if he had any contact with the Agency?
Mr. Harris-I have never had any contact with the Agency. . .
Supervisor Brnadt- I have asked the County to open its meetings as soon
as possible. . .which it has finally done to public scrutiny, because I
think what has been done there has been constructive, I think that you
can find that there has been a great deal of work , = : > done.
I am sorry that the County Agency did not see fit to open its meetings
earlier. That was a determination of the agency, because it was a
negotiation between the City and the Town, they did not open it.
Les 'Bsit&- asked if he could be a part of the landfill discussion. . .would
like to help on it. . .
Ted Turner- What was the formula used ta•praject the figures that they came
out in the paper with.
Supervisor Brandt- I can not answer that.
Ted Turner- On the 400,000 budget for the landfill , does that include any
building to house the equipment? Any money for heat light etc. ?
Supervisor Brandt- Yes. The figures were generated by the consulting .engineer
Mr. Tarana-questioned why the board has not acted to reappoint nine
members to the Conservation Advisory Council?
Councilman Olson- noted that he belived that three members were appointed
in Novembeter bring the total to five members. . . the board is trying tc.<►Er A
cross section of people from different walks of life and employment to
fill this board so that we have a cross section of the whole community. . .
Mr. Tarana- questioned why the Conservation Advisory Council was not
asked to work on the landfill problem. . .
Noted a lack of information regarding the landfill and felt that the Commissiol
could have helped. . .
Mrs . Monahan- Under the sunshine law how much public notice do you have to
give for the meetings. . .?
Supervisor Brandt- I can not answer that, I do not know. . .
Mr. 1ter Stamper- questioned why not use input from professionals in the
landfill business. . .could save money. . .
Councilman Barber- You are right. . .reviewed part 360 of N.Y. St. Dept.
of Env. Conservation. . .went into effect. yesterday. . .
Mr. Geault-asked the Board to make an effort to staff the Environmental
Council.:
John Bowman-questioned the hours of the landfill. and the opening of the
gate after the take over by the County by the Highway Dept. . . .
Councilman Barber- previous hours of landfill 6am to 5pm -now lam to 4 pm.
3pm cutoff limit for trucks. . .Keys for gate have been changed only County
has the keyes. . .
Councilman. Olson- requested that Mr. Brandt bring back to the County
Refuse Agency the views of the public that the residents of Queensbury do
not want to subsidize the running of the landfill.
Unknown-asked about the $103,000 sales. tax monies received by the town-
asked if they could get rebates on - it.
Mr. Barber-I asked that very same question today of Mr. Brandt and a
legal question was asked of our counsel and he indicated that we can not
-- use it to reduce taxes. We must hold it until next year and then reduce
taxes.
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Unknown-asked how the town could be off_ by 70%. Figures are available.
Mr. Brandt-Those figures are not available to my office. The county cant
get the figures either. The county informed us that their best sales
tax estimate for this town would be $152,000. We based our budget on that.
If you want to talk to the county treasurer, .I am sure he will explain it
to you. It is very involved.
Mr. Hermance-We started talking to the other haulers today, we are going
to start an association. We want to be informed as to when these meetings
on the landfill are going to be held.
Mr. Brandt-I will do my best to have the county group notify you of any
future meetings.
Mr. Wolfe-Feels sorry for the haulers who have to be in the landfill by
3 P.M. It is difficult for them to get there if they are on the other
side .of town.
Mr. Barber- I hope the haulers do get to the county and tell them what
our problems are. The hours should be changed. I would appreciate it if
you would direct your continents to the Warren County Board.
Mr. Wolfe asked Mr. Murphy what .he meant when hheseid that the cost would
be in the area of $400, 000. He asked that a meeting be held on the landfill
at Queensbury School where the people could here better what was going on.
Suggested .that the City, Town and County have a joint meeting.
Mr. Tarana-asked how long are we committed to this Joint landfill?
Mr. Robertson-stated that we can probably back out tomorrow if we go
six months, the contract is for five years but realisticly we are married
to it forever.
On motion the meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Donald A. Chase , Town Clerk;_;
REGULAR MEETING JANUARY 11, 1977
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Michel Brandt- Supervisor
Daniel Olson- Councilman
Robert Barber-Councilman
Hammond Robertson-Councilman
Joseph Brennan-Town Counsel
PRESS:' Tri Co. News, Glens Falls Post Star
TOWN OFFICIALS: F1oyd. Martindale, Shirley Shenk
GUESTS: League of Women Voters , Arthur Turnbull, Mr. Kilmartin,
Mr. ' die
Meeting Opened: 7: 30 P.M. Salute to the Flag, led by Donald A. Chase
Town.,=Cleirk. . .
RESOLUTIONS
RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT BID FOR OBSOLETE EQUIPMENT
RESOLUTION NO. 25, Introduced by Mr.' Robert Barber who moved its
a opt on, seconded by Mr. Hammond Robertson:
WHEREAS, Carl A. Garb, Highway Supt. of the Town of Queensbury did
recommend that we advertise for bid the sale of several pieces of
obsolete equipment, and