03-22-2016 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/22/2016)
QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING
SECOND REGULAR MEETING
MARCH 22, 2016
INDEX
Subdivision No. 8-2015 Burnett Family Trust
1.
PRELIMINARY & FINAL STG. Tax Map No. 239.18-1-12
Site Plan PZ 73-2016 Faden Enterprises 2.
Special Use Permit PZ 68-2016 Tax Map No. 309.10-1-47, 48, 49
Site Plan PZ 51-2016 Switchco, LLC (Holiday Inn Express) 2.
Tax Map No. 309.13-1-73
Site Plan PZ 54-2016 Big Bay Lodging, LLC (Hilton Home2 Suites)
12.
Tax Map No. 309.13-2-2 through 9
Site Plan PZ 80-2016 Frank DeNardo
18.
Tax Map No. 240.-1-31
Site Plan PZ 75-2016 William Rudenko 20.
Tax Map No. 279.-1-9
Site Plan PZ 81-2016 Apex Solar Power 25.
Tax Map No. 309.10-1-10
Site Plan PZ 88-2016 Tom Rosecrans & Susan Beddle
30.
d/b/a TRSB Enterprises
Tax Map No. 308.20-13.5
Site Plan PZ 92-2016 Ray &Wendy Kraft 37.
SUP PZ 82-2016 Tax Map No. 240.9-1-16.12
THESE ARE NOT OFFICIALLY ADOPTED MINUTES AND ARE SUBJECT TO BOARD AND
STAFF REVISIONS. REVISIONS WILL APPEAR ON THE FOLLOWING MONTHS MINUTES
(IF ANY) AND WILL STATE SUCH APPROVAL OF SAID MINUTES.
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QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING
SECOND REGULAR MEETING
MARCH 22, 2016
7:00 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT
CHRIS HUNSINGER, CHAIRMAN
STEPHEN TRAVER
BRAD MAGOWAN
GEORGE FERONE
DAVID DEEB
JAMIE WHITE, ALTERNATE
MEMBERS ABSENT
PAUL SCHONEWOLF
LAND USE PLANNER-LAURA MOORE
STENOGRAPHER-MARIA GAGLIARDI
MR. HUNSINGER-I'd like to welcome everyone to the Town of Queensbury Planning Board on
Tuesday, March 22., 2016. Members of the audience, welcome. There are copies of the
agenda on the back table over here. There's also a handout for public hearing procedures. I
believe every item on the agenda does have a public hearing scheduled. The first item of
business is under Old Business.
OLD BUSINESS:
SUBDIVISION NO. 8-2015 PRELIMINARY & FINAL STAGE SEAR TYPE UNLISTED
BURNETT FAMILY TRUST AGENT(S) DEBORAH SLEZAK — COIFFI, SLEZAK AND
WILDGRUBE, P.C. OWNER(S) SAME AS APPLICANT ZONING WR LOCATION 11
ANDREW DRIVE APPLICANT PROPOSES SUBDIVISION OF A 1.32 ACRE PARCEL INTO
TWO LOTS OF 28,639 SQ. FT. & 28,754 SQ. FT. SUBDIVISION WILL PLACE EXISTING
HOUSES ON SEPARATE PARCELS. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER A-183 OF THE ZONING
ORDINANCE SUBDIVISION OF LAND SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD
REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE AV 51-15, BP 04-677 (2 DOCKS)
WARREN CO. REFERRAL N/A APA, CEA, OTHER LGPC, CEA LOT SIZE 1.32 ACRES
TAX MAP NO. 239.18-1-12 SECTION CHAPTER A-183
MR. HUNSINGER-Laura?
MRS. MOORE-Actually there's no one here for the applicant for the Burnett Family Trust. It's
to be tabled. It was tabled at the Zoning Board.
MR. HUNSINGER-To the 19th, May 29th meeting?
MRS. MOORE-Yes.
MR. HUNSINGER-If anyone would like to make that motion.
RESOLUTION TABLING SUB # 8-2015 BURNETT FAMILY TRUST
MOTION TO TABLE SUBDIVISION 8-2015 PRELIMINARY & FINAL STAGES BURNETT
FAMILY TRUST, Introduced by Brad Magowan who moved for its adoption, seconded by
Stephen Traver:
Tabled until the May 19, 2016, Planning Board meeting with any new information due by April
15, 2016.
Duly adopted this 22nd day of March, 2016, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Traver, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Magowan, Ms. White, Mr. Deeb, Mr. Hunsinger
NOES: NONE
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ABSENT: Mr. Schonewolf
MR. HUNSINGER-Is there anyone here that wanted to speak to the Board on this project? We
will table the public hearing as well to the 19th of May.
PUBLIC HEARING OPEN
SITE PLAN PZ 73-2016; SPECIAL USE PERMIT PZ 68-2016 SEAR TYPE UNLISTED
FADEN ENTERPRISES AGENT(S) LANSING ENGINEERING OWNER(S) ROBERT
GOODWIN ZONING MS LOCATION 75-79 MAIN STREET APPLICANT PROPOSES
DEMOLITION OF THREE MAIN BUILDINGS, SHED AND SOME SITE GRADING TO
CONSTRUCT THREE NEW BUILDINGS IN THREE PHASES. FIRST BUILDING TO BE
4,200 +/- SQ. FT. WITH PARKING FROM MAIN ST. TO PINE ST. PROJECT INCLUDES
MERGING PARCELS CREATING TWO PARCELS. SECOND PHASE TO BE REMAINDER
OF FIRST BUILDING 4,200 +/- SQ. FT., THEN THIRD PHASE IS TWO ADDITIONAL
BUILDINGS 2,400 SQ. FT. AND 1,600 SQ. FT. WITH A DRIVE THROUGH. PROJECT
INCLUDES LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPING IN PHASES ALSO. STORMWATER TO BE
COMPLETED FOR WHOLE SITE IN PHASE ONE CROSS REFERENCE BP 91252
SEWAGE ALT.; 2005-221 SIGN PERMIT; 2002-0208 WALL SIGN WARREN CO.
REFERRAL FEBRUARY 2016 LOT SIZE 0.24, 0.42, .046, TOTAL 1.12 ACRES TAX MAP
NO. 309.10-1-47, 48, 49 SECTION 179-3-040, 179-7-030 , 179-7-070, 179-10-040, 140-7
MRS. MOORE-This is also to be tabled, but it's going to be tabled to your second meeting in
April.
MR. HUNSINGER-The 28 th?
MRS. MOORE-April 28tH
MR. HUNSINGER-Is there anyone here for that project? Would anyone like to make a motion?
RESOLUTION TABLING SP PZ 78-2016 & SUP PZ 68-2016 FADEN ENTERPRISES
MOTION TO TABLE SITE PLAN PZ 73-2016 & SPECIAL USE PERMIT PZ 68-2016 FADEN
ENTERPRISES, Introduced by Brad Magowan who moved for its adoption, seconded by
Stephen Traver:
Tabled until the April 28, 2016 Planning Board meeting pending Zoning Board of Appeals
meeting April, 27, 2016.
Duly adopted this 22nd day of March, 2016, by the following vote.
AYES: Mr. Traver, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Magowan, Ms. White, Mr. Deeb, Mr. Hunsinger
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: Mr. Schonewolf
SITE PLAN PZ 51-2016 SEAR TYPE UNLISTED SWITCHCO, LLC (HOLIDAY INN
EXPRESS) AGENT(S) BOHLER ENGINEERING OWNER(S) SWITCHCO, LLC ZONING
Cl LOCATION CORINTH RD. & 1-87 APPLICANT PROPOSES TO DEVELOP A PORTION
OF A 16.38 ACRE PARCEL FOR A 13,800 SQ. FT. (FOOTPRINT) 4 STORY (55 FT.), 100
ROOM HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS HOTEL. SITE WORK INCLUDES CONSTRUCTION OF AN
ACCESS ROAD, INSTALLATION OF PARKING SPACES, LANDSCAPING, LIGHTING AND
STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040 OF THE ZONING
ORDINANCE, MOTELS SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND
APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE SP 28-2008; AV 41-2008 WARREN CO. REFERRAL
FEBRUARY 2016 LOT SIZE 16.38 ACRES TAX MAP NO. 309.13-1-73 SECTION 179-3-
040
JON LAPPER, CHRIS BOYEA & JOSH O'CONNOR, REPRESENTING APPLICANT,
PRESENT
MRS. MOORE-Okay. This applicant proposes to develop a portion of a 16.38 acre parcel for a
13,800 sq. ft. footprint, four-story, which is 55 feet in height, 100 room Holiday Inn Express
hotel. Under my Staff Notes I identified the applicant is requesting a waiver for the accent
lighting as the lights shine upward on the building and in the front. I've identified some items to
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be clarified at this meeting in reference to light fixture cut sheets, floor plans for each level that
you may wish to discuss. I also provided a draft resolution that includes information about the
traffic that we discussed during SEQR.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. Thank you. Good evening.
MR. LAPPER-Good evening, everyone. For the record Jon Lapper with the applicant Jerry
Nudi and Chris Boyea from Bohler Engineering. We're pleased that the first two applications
had to table at the Zoning Board last week so we got to go first which is rare, but we were
granted the height variance after you had recommended it, and we appreciate that. So after
listening to this board last week we made some changes to the site to address the access to
McDonald's, the fence on the back, and adding some additional trees, maple trees along the
Northway, and so I think we'll start off and let Chris show you the changes that were done to
address what you had asked us to do.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. Thank you.
MR. BOYEA-Okay. For the record I'm Chris Boyea with Bohler Engineering, and at the last
meeting we had given a general overview of the project, and for those in the public that are here
listening, to are proposing to build a four story, 100 room hotel that is in the land behind
McDonald's at Exit 18. This rendering shows the driveway and how the parking lot would
circulate and it's really the exact same thing that you saw at the last meeting last week, but this
Board had asked for some additional improvements, and for us to consider making those, and
so there was a handout, an eight and a half by eleven that looks just like this, only three pages
or so, that we had provided tonight. Did Laura get a copy? Okay. Perfect. This just contains
the changes that you guys had asked at the last meeting. So I'd like to j just walk through that
briefly. We had talked that it would be nice to add some trees or maybe consider adding trees
was the wording used along the interstate, along the Northway that's there. So we had added
six to eight maple trees that are here to be substantial in size, two inch in caliper, Town planting,
and so those have been provided at the top of the infiltration basin here and then continuing
down to help establish a tree row. We're also keeping some of the trees in the right of way.
We just can't touch those. Those are owned and controlled by New York State DOT. So
those will be there as well. It was asked about the fence in the rear. So some of the neighbors
had asked, and Laura had given us a heads up when we came in for some preliminary
meetings, that it would be great if we could incorporate a fence between our property and the
residential uses to the rear. So we have provided that fence here, but the Board had asked just
for some substantial or a little bit more clarification or details on that fence to make sure that the
fence achieves the desired impact that the neighbors had, and some of the neighbors did speak
at the last meeting and they were happy to hear that we would do a solid fence, not a chain link
fence. It would be a solid fence. So we have provided a detail of the maximum height allowed
by the Town, which is six foot tall, wood solid stockade fence that would be provided. The
impact of our project, so anywhere where headlights would, in the parking lot would turn, we've
provided that fence through that whole portion of the site there, and then, just to reiterate, the
reason why the fence was talked about was we're leaving a very large buffer here of trees that
currently exist, very mature trees that are there. So the higher vertical has already got a good
buffer. It's that lower through the trunks, and then there was some concern about people
migrating between, not so much the hotel guests going back to the residence, but some of the
residences are kids that have had past, I don't know, they come into the woods at night or
something of that nature, but we wanted to stop that flow, and so we have provided that. We
were asked to take a look generally and just confirm the elevation of the interstate to the
building. It was just a question and we didn't know at that time, but we've gone back and
researched and done the math and figured out that the interstate right here is approximately
going to be, well, I shouldn't say, the interstate's not changing. The interstate is here, and the
top of our building is approximately going to be 25 feet above the height of the interstate that's
here. So right now it's about 25 feet below the interstate, the grade is, but by the time we're
done building about a 55 foot total, 55 fill at the same time, we're basically splitting it. So the
parapet would be about 25 feet higher by the time we're done. Now that's not very much when
you look at a distance over this far, 25 feet. I mean, it'll be higher, but I don't think your head is
going to go up too high to look at that. The point of us looking at that, and why the Board asked
for it, is just to make sure that you won't see the mechanicals on top, and so being 25 feet, I
think we've got a good angle where there's a comfort level that the mechanicals would not be
seen with the parapet.
MR. MAGOWAN-That 25 feet, is it straight out from the, it's not ramping up. Is that, that's a
gradual upgrade to go over the bridge.
MR. BOYEA-To be precise where we took it, there was an elevation marker right around here,
and so that's that, we didn't have accurate all the way down there.
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MR. MAGOWAN-So it's 25 feet on the higher side. I mean, it's actually lower back near the
hotel.
MR. BOYEA-Right. It could be a little bit there.
MR. MAGOWAN-How many times do you travel that?
MR. BOYEA-Well, the last couple of weeks, quite a bit.
MR. MAGOWAN-No, it is lower. So those numbers, I think, are even better. Because I know it
does ramp up going, you know, gradually up to.
MR. BOYEA-The last item that we were asked to investigate was a pedestrian connection to the
McDonald's to prevent what we were calling that cow path from forming. So what we've talked
about, and I'm going to just look this over because there should be a blow up. So this is just a
blow up of the area. It's maybe a little easier to see. It's much easier probably to see on the
handout. What we did is we widened a four foot additional strip here, striped it as a pedestrian
safe travel path, from here, right to the property line. Now we can't go over into McDonald's,
but we chose a spot where you can see even on the aerial and exhibit that it's right there, but
McDonald's parking and paving and everything is right there, very close to the property line. We
can work with McDonald's further, probably to bridge that last 18 inches. We just don't have
the authority to do that, obviously, right now, but we did re-develop that site and I was part of
that plan, and the franchisee's been very accommodating. So I don't see it being, but anyway,
even if they said no, we're within 18 inches of hard surface. So that really does provide that
path of connectivity, and so those are the changes that have been made to address the Board's
comments, and we're here tonight to answer any other questions, comments, concerns, and
hopes to move forward.
MR. HUNSINGER-Thank you for those updates. Yes.
MR. BOYEA-1 didn't take credit for one last thing. Also included in the package was a truck
turn. So Laura had asked for us to make sure that recreational vehicles turn here, and we
knew that they did, but we just didn't have a document per se, and so I guess you can see the
truck turn, but it's in there that we've checked to make sure that if somebody's pulling a boat or
a big Winnebago or something like that that they can maneuver the site accurately, and that's
been provided.
MR. HUNSINGER-Is there anything else?
MR. LAPPER-We worked out the traffic language with Laura and Town Counsel for your
resolution. Since we were here last and that was one item that we discussed last time and I
think we're all comfortable with that language.
MR. HUNSINGER-Questions, comments from the Board?
MR. DEEB-That height, if we can go back to the height thing. So you're saying it's 25 feet from
the highway itself.
MR. LAPPER-From the travel lane.
MR. DEEB-From the travel lane. Well, the off ramp comes down.
MR. LAPPER-So it's going to be more than that.
MR. DEEB-Right, because the top of the ramp is going to be where the travel lane is?
MR. LAPPER-Yes.
MR. DEEB-So it's 25 feet from that.
MR. LAPPER-Yes.
MR. DEEB-That point right there. Okay.
MR. LAPPER-At least 25 feet is Brad's comment. We measured from a higher spot.
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MR. FERONE-The path on your driveway, you said you put in the extra four foot or whatever for
pedestrian. When you get down to the point where it's going to be close to where the
McDonald's is, is that just a gravel path? Is that going to be asphalt?
MR. BOYEA-Asphalt.
MR. FERONE-Asphalt. Okay. Up to, except that last foot and a half.
MR. BOYEA-And it might even, I mean, we're working off of an aerial there, but, I mean, yes, it's
close.
MR. FERONE-And again, I would think McDonald's would be open to that. Thank you.
MR. BOYEA-All day breakfast.
MR. HUNSINGER-Right. Depending upon any future development in that site, would there be
any ability or willingness to extend that walkway down the Corinth Road?
MR. LAPPER-Yes, Jerry would, as I said last time, would really like that to get developed
quickly and hopefully now there's more activity at Exit 18 because it's got a larger site, it would
be nice to have some nice commercial or offices uses there. So the amenities that are required
for that, you know, I landscaping, a fence continuing along the back, all that'll happen, you
know, including the pedestrian access, when it comes back in for, hopefully next winter two or
three projects back there. He didn't buy it to just do a hotel.
MR. HUNSINGER-I think a striped four foot wide, you know, I think that's a pretty good
compromise.
MR. LAPPER-It can get plowed. So it's easier than having a separate sidewalk. It's just
easier to maintain, you know, if we ever get snow again.
MR. HUNSINGER-Right. One of the comments that I had neglected to bring up last week was
on your lighting plan. I thought the lighting plan seemed a bit bright, especially when you
compare this with the other hotel, Big Bay Lodging. The parking area on the entrances were a
lot brighter than the other one, just as a comparison. I don't know if you want to comment on
that.
MR. BOYEA-Well, there is another party involved here. There's a hotel operator, and they
have a lot of experience with hotels, and their concern is that the site look welcoming. It's got a
500 foot long drive, and actually if you look at the amount of trees, we were going to clear less
trees for the drive and just kind of sneak the drive through the woods, and they said, no, that's
going to turn off motorists that are coming in to this place, where am I going, you know, I'm
driving back into this, those are big trees through there. I'm driving back. They actually said
can you clear as we've shown here, a little bit more on the other side of it and light this up so
that it's welcoming and appealing for tourists that come in and so it was something that was
looked at for sure. It's definitely unique that it's 500 feet driveway and, you know, it should
work well, and that really came at the recommendation of a hospitality expert.
MR. HUNSINGER-Anyone else have concerns about the lighting plan? Okay. Any other
questions or comments?
MR. DEEB-And you said you're comfortable with this Number Eleven in the proposal, draft
proposal? There's quite a bit added about the traffic we talked about last week.
MR. LAPPER-Yes.
MR. DEEB-And so this is, in essence, if you have a full build out within that property, these
things have to be, mitigations have to be taken into account.
MR. LAPPER-Yes, as Chris had said last time, the traffic report that we got from Creighton
Manning Engineering indicated that because a hotel is a low traffic generator and there's new
infrastructure on Corinth Road, nothing would be needed now, but we understand at full build
out these'II be needed. So we're agreeing now, Jerry's agreeing now, that these'II be
constructed at full build out, and we'll be in here for site plan review for all of those projects
hopefully soon, but at least it's in writing now that he's agreeing to that.
MR. DEEB-Okay.
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MR. HUNSINGER-Any other questions or comments from the Board? We do have a public
hearing scheduled for this project this evening. Is there anyone in the audience that wishes to
address the Board? You want to comment, sir? Okay. The purpose of the public hearing is
for interested parties to make comments to the Board. We do tape the meeting and the tape is
then used to transcribe the minutes. So I would ask anyone that wishes to comment to speak
clearly into the microphone and give us your name for the record and if you could address your
questions to the Board.
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
GARY SPRINGER
MR. SPRINGER-My name's Gary Springer, Queensbury. I live right around that development.
My question is about the fence. I want to know where it's going and if he's doing just around
his hotel or if he's doing the property.
MR. HUNSINGER-That's a good question, and we can have him show you.
MR. O'CONNOR-Here against the disturbance area, pressing along the rear of the parking lot
and ending at the end of the parking lot.
MR. LAPPER-Forty-five feet from the property line.
MR. O'CONNOR-It's plus that. We have a 50 foot buffer and the fence is along the edge of that.
MR. SPRINGER-So what my question is, is you're not doing just your property? The whole
property is going to be done in phases with the fence?
MR. HUNSINGER-At this point, that's the limit of the fence. So do you have a specific
concern?
MR. SPRINGER-Yes, kids and stuff going in there and partying and throwing garbage and, you
know, out there. The same as I did last week.
MR. HUNSINGER-Well, we weren't here last we so we don't know what comment you might
have made.
MR. SPRINGER-So, and I know when Mr. Schermerhorn was going to do it, he was going to
put a fence up. So, you know, I mean, if it's going to be done in phases, as long as it's going to
be done is all I really care about.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. I see them nodding their heads behind you.
MR. SPRINGER-Okay.
MR. HUNSINGER-So is that a current issue that goes on in those woods?
MR. SPRINGER-Yes.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, thank you. Did you want to comment, sir?
AUDIENCE MEMBER-Just what he said about the fence deal.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. Did anyone else wish to comment? Were there any written
comments, Laura?
MRS. MOORE-I have no written comments.
MR. HUNSINGER-All right.
MR. LAPPER-One of the advantages is that we'll have 24 hour management on site. So, you
know, if the kids are hanging out there now, it'll be different if there's hotel management on site.
It's not going to be just vacant woods anymore.
MR. MAGOWAN-Well, I mean, I like the idea of the fence, but I was looking at the picture here,
and, because you're tying in your water and that, and that's right there at the end of whatever
road that is, one of the State roads, right? What do you think maybe the possibility of bringing
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that westerly fence, you know, into the thickets of the woods a little bit more instead of, because
I just see them, you know, getting around that.
MR. LAPPER-Well, there's going to be a whole swath the whole rest of the site where if
somebody wanted to get around, they could and to put that fence in we'd be taking down trees,
and grading it to make it suitable.
MR. MAGOWAN-Yes, not the whole way, you know, just bring it, from the picture it looks like.
MR. LAPPER-You mean come around the corner is what you're suggesting?
MR. MAGOWAN-Yes.
JERRY NUDI
MR. NUDI-It does come around the corner a little bit. Maybe it should keep going straight that
way?
MR. BOYEA-Yes, I think what I'm understanding is that if we could extend the fence.
MR. MAGOWAN-Yes, just bring it in so they'd have to walk into the woods. You'll get the
thickets and that. Then you're really saying stop. I mean, they're going to get in the woods no
matter what.
MR. NUDI-Yes, I think there's a tendency in all those old streets for people, I think they used
ATV's and I know that my brother had said that at least one of the neighbors was so irritated he
cut trees down and tried to block the roads and everything, but they removed them. They just
come in and they move the trees. They keep playing there, and I think they ride across Corinth
Road and go out to the woods.
MR. MAGOWAN-But I think by opening that up, clearing that up and putting a building here,
you're taking a substantial, you know, party spot, putting up lights, too. I mean, that deters a
few things, too. I'm just, you know, I just kind of noticed that fence there and it looked like it
was diving into the woods like another 10 feet.
MR. LAPPER-Jerry's agreeing to that.
MR. HUNSINGER-Any other questions or comments from the Board? If there's no outstanding
issues, is the Board comfortable with moving forward?
MR. FERONE-Yes.
MS. WHITE-Yes.
MR. HUNSINGER-Then I will close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR. HUNSINGER-One of the things that Staff has prepared is a revised SEQR resolution that
was distributed to us this evening. I don't know if members have had a chance to review that.
All it really does is it clarifies the traffic improvements that have been discussed last week, and if
there's no questions or comments, if anyone would like to propose the draft amended SEQR
resolution.
RESOLUTION RE: AMENDED SEQR RESOLUTION FOR SP PZ 51-2016 SWITCHCO,
LLC
The applicant proposes to develop a portion of a 16.38 acre parcel for a 13,800 sq. ft. (footprint)
4 story (55 ft.), 100 room Holiday Inn Express hotel. Site work includes construction of an
access road, installation of parking spaces, landscaping, lighting and stormwater management.
Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040 of the Zoning Ordinance, motels and hotels shall be subject to
Planning Board review and approval.
The Planning Board has determined that the proposed project and Planning Board action is
subject to review under the State Environmental Quality Review Act;
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The proposed action considered by this Board is Unlisted in the Department of Environmental
Conservation Regulations implementing the State Environmental Quality Review Act and the
regulations of the Town of Queensbury;
No Federal or other agencies are involved;
Part 1 of the Short EAF has been completed by the applicant;
Upon review of the information recorded on this EAF, it is the conclusion of the Town of
Queensbury Planning Board as lead agency that this project will result in no significant adverse
impacts on the environment, and, therefore, an environmental impact statement need not be
prepared. Accordingly, this negative declaration is issued.
AMENDED MOTION FOR NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR SITE PLAN PZ 51-2016,
SWITCHCO, LLC, Introduced by Brad Magowan who moved for its adoption, seconded by
Stephen Traver;
1. Part II of the Short EAF has been reviewed and completed by the Planning Board.
2. Part III of the Short EAF is not necessary because the Planning Board did not identify
potentially moderate to large impacts.
3. Additionally the applicant will be updating EAF Part 1. Question #20 to a yes, and signoff to
complete the Short Form
4. The project site was identified in the Exit 18 Rezone Study. The Exit 18 Rezone Study
contemplated
full buildout of the project site to generate 302 vehicles/hour AM and 418 vph PM. The
planned project will generate 53 vph AM and 60 vph PM. Based on the analysis included in
the Exit 18 Rezone Study the following improvements are to be installed in advance of full
buildout of the site:
a. a new eastbound left turn lane into the project site from Corinth Road
b. a two lane southbound egress from the site, including one dedicated left turn
lane to eastbound Corinth Road and one shared right turn lane westbound and
through lane southbound.
c. The applicant agrees to formalize the installation of the noted traffic mitigation in
the form of a Developer's Agreement to memorialize the conditions of
approval. The purpose of such development agreement shall be to establish, in
writing and for the benefit of both parties, the specific parameters of the approval
which has been granted by the Planning Board and upon including the timing of
said improvements and/or land dedications required in connection therewith.
d. This provision applies to the subject parcel and/or parcels established by further
subdivision of the subject parcel regardless of ownership
Duly adopted this 22nd day of March, 2016 by the following vote:
MRS. MOORE-Just to say the resolution as prepared by Staff, so it includes the whole concept.
MR. HUNSINGER-Right. It includes the whole.
MRS. MOORE-Okay.
AYES: Mr. Traver, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Magowan, Ms. White, Mr. Deeb, Mr. Hunsinger
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: Mr. Schonewolf
MR. HUNSINGER-So in terms of any approval, it sounds like the only real change is to extend
the fence to the edge of the woods on the western boundary. I did have a question on the
proposed maple trees. You said they were two inch caliper. So how tall would those be?
MR. O'CONNOR-1 would be guessing about a range, but I would be saying that those are
probably eight to ten feet at planting.
MR. HUNSINGER-That was what I expected, but.
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MR. LAPPER-And you might as well reference the plans that Chris submitted tonight as part of
the resolution with those changes.
MR. HUNSINGER-I think the resolution, and I'll double check it, does include all materials and
comments made up to today.
MR. MAGOWAN-So we've got the property line running for 365 feet, and if we're going to be
extending the west side.
MR. LAPPER-We'll come around the corner.
MR. O'CONNOR-1 would say 10 feet.
MR. LAPPER-To the fence.
MR. MAGOWAN-To 375.
MRS. MOORE-Can I ask a question?
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, go ahead, Laura.
MRS. MOORE-In reference to currently the way the plan's set up, it looks like it's 45 feet from
that north property line and you mentioned maybe it's 50 feet.
MR. BOYEA-No that's the total buffer, that green area. It is about 45 feet to the fence. So
your math is correct.
MRS. MOORE-Okay, and for the Board's benefit, the applicant has asked for a waiver for the
accent light, and whether you're going to consider that.
MR. HUNSINGER-The blue lights.
MRS. MOORE-The blue lights.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes. Is everyone comfortable with that?
MR. FERONE-Yes.
MS. WHITE-Yes, after the discussion we had last week.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay.
MRS. MOORE-Okay. So within that resolution I identified that there would be no exterior
building lighting above the first floor. So that addresses any neighbors behind the building, and
I believe that that would be acceptable. I just want to make sure that the Board is clear on that.
MS. WHITE-And all of those blue lights are on the front of the building. Correct, the blue
upward facing?
MR. BOYEA-That's correct. There's none in the rear.
MS. WHITE-None on the sides or the rear.
MR. O'CONNOR-That's correct.
MR. HUNSINGER-There's none on the sides either, or the end?
MR. BOYEA-Well, I don't believe so. Josh, you can pull up the elevations.
MR. O'CONNOR-So there are actually four fixtures. There's one located here, up, one here up
and one on each of the front columns.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. So it's just on the front.
MR. LAPPER-Right.
MS. WHITE-It's on the center of the front.
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MR. LAPPER-The center, too.
MRS. MOORE-Okay. The other item is the applicant requested to be able to clear the trees
prior to March 31St, and so I've included items that it's up to the Board if they wish to include that
as part of their resolution allowing the applicant to develop the clearing plan and get that
submitted prior to the final plans being approved. Usually everything happens simultaneously.
So right now the applicant needs to proceed with getting a final engineer signoff, and that could
take a couple of days, and March 31St happens next week. So we're trying to assist that
process.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, we had talked about that a while back.
MRS. MOORE-So, okay.
MR. HUNSINGER-Is the Board comfortable with that? Thank you for clarifying that for us.
MR. DEEB-Yes, I'm okay.
MR. MAGOWAN-If they get approval they're going to go anyway.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. Are there any other.
MR. MAGOWAN-So, should I make note of that?
MR. LAPPER-It's in there.
MRS. MOORE-It's already in the resolution. The last item I have is more of a technicality.
Currently the plans show two signs and the applicant's only permitted one. So final plans
should show the one sign until the applicant comes forward with the sign variance if they wish to
proceed that way.
MR. MAGOWAN-And that's in there, too?
MRS. MOORE-That is not in there, but just to be clear that the final plans should not show two
wall signs at this time.
MR. DEEB-Is that okay?
MR. LAPPER-Yes. That decision comes later.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, well, we can't approve it is what Laura is saying.
MR. LAPPER-Right.
MR. HUNSINGER-It has to go before the Zoning Board.
MS. WHITE-So we're approving with just the one sign.
MR. DEEB-The plans should reflect that.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. Are you ready?
MR. MAGOWAN-Yes.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SP PZ 51-2016 SWITCHCO, LLC (HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS)
The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board for Site Plan approval
pursuant to Article 9 of the Town zoning Ordinance to develop a portion of a 16.38 acre parcel
for a 13,800 sq. ft. (footprint) 4 story (55 ft.), 100 room Holiday Inn Express hotel. Site work
includes construction of an access road, installation of parking spaces, landscaping, lighting and
stormwater management. Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040 of the Zoning Ordinance, hotels and
motels shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-080, the
Planning Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the
Zoning Code;
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As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to
the Warren County Planning Department for its recommendation;
The Planning Board has reviewed the potential environmental impacts of the project, pursuant to
the State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA) and adopted a SEQRA Negative
Declaration - Determination of Non-Significance
The Planning Board conducted a public hearing on the Site plan application on 3/22/2016;
The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all
comments made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 3/22/2016;
The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and
standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval,
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN PZ 51-2016 SWITCHCO, LLC; Introduced by Brad
Magowan who moved for its adoption, seconded by Stephen Traver:
According to the draft resolution prepared by Staff with the following:
1. Waivers requested granted;
2. Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution.
b) The limits of clearing will constitute a no-cut buffer zone, clearing limits are to be
professionally (through surveyed methods) located and are to be clearly marked on the
site and flagging (highly visible) is to remain after clearing and field verified by
Community Development Staff.
c) If applicable, the Sanitary Sewer connection plan must be submitted to the
Wastewater Department for its review, approval, permitting and inspection;
d) If curb cuts are being added or changed a driveway permit is required. A building permit
will not be issued until the approved driveway permit has been provided to the Planning
Office;
e) If application was referred to engineering then Engineering sign-off required prior to
signature of Zoning Administrator of the approved plans;
f) If required, the applicant must submit a copy of the following to the Town:
a. The project NOI (Notice of Intent) for coverage under the current "NYSDEC
SPDES General Permit from Construction Activity" prior to the start of any site
work.
b. The project NOT (Notice of Termination) upon completion of the project;
c. The applicant must maintain on their project site, for review by staff:
i. The approved final plans that have been stamped by the Town Zoning
Administrator. These plans must include the project SWPPP (Storm
Water Pollution Prevention Plan);
ii. The project NOI and proof of coverage under the current NYSDEC
SPDES General Permit, or an individual SPDES permit issued for the
project if required.
g) Final approved plans, in compliance with the Site Plan, must be submitted to the
Community Development Department before any further review by the Zoning
Administrator or Building and Codes personnel;
h) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of
Building Permit and/or the beginning of any site work;
i) Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on
compliance with this and all other conditions of this Resolution;
j) As-built plans to certify that the site plan is developed according to the approved plans to
be provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy.
k) The project site was identified in the Exit 18 Rezone Study. The exit 18 Rezone Study
contemplated full buildout of the project site to generate 302 vehicles/hour AM and 418
vph PM. The planned project will generate 53 vph AM and 60 vph PM. Based on the
analysis included in the Exit 18 Rezone Study the following improvements are to be
installed in advance of full buildout of the site:
a. A new eastbound left turn lane into the project site from Corinth Road
b. A two lane southbound egress from the site, including one dedicated left turn lane
to eastbound Corinth Rod and one shared right turn lane westbound and through
lane southbound.
c. The applicant agrees to formalize its commitment for the installation of the noted
traffic mitigation in the form of a Development Agreement to memorialize the
conditions of approval. The purpose of such development agreement shall be to
establish, in writing and for the benefit of both parties, the specific parameters of
the approval which has been granted by the Planning Board including the timing
of said improvements and/or land dedications required in connection therewith.
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d. This provision applies to the subject parcel and/or parcels established by further
subdivision of the subject parcel regardless of ownership.
1) There will be no exterior building lighting on the North or West Side of the building above
the first floor.
m) The fencing to be installed is a 6 ft. stockade fence that is to be 45 ft. from the north
property line for 375 ft. running along the parking area on the north side of the project to
allow the applicant to extend the fence towards the west.
n) The applicant has explained, per NYSDEC and US Fish and Wildlife Service, that
clearing of the project site as noted in the submitted plans needs to be completed prior to
March 31St due to a concerned species.
a. The clearing (per #2) is allowed to occur prior to March 31St where limits of
clearing vegetation (trees) are to be marked and field verified by Community
Development Department Staff upon submission of a clearing plan separate from
final plans.
b. The applicant is to include in the final sets of plans a copy of the clearing plan.
o) This Resolution is to be placed in its entirety on the final plans.
Duly adopted this 22nd day of March, 2016, by the following vote:
MR. DEEB-We need to add in there the final plans to show one sign.
MR. HUNSINGER-1 don't know if we need to add that, do we?
MRS. MOORE-It wouldn't be considered compliant.
MR. DEEB-Okay.
MR. HUNSINGER-Because we can't authorize that.
MR. DEEB-Right.
AYES: Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Traver, Mr. Hunsinger
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: Mr. Schonewolf
MR. LAPPER-Thanks.
MR. HUNSINGER-You're all set. Good luck.
MR. LAPPER-We really appreciated Laura jumping on this today and getting this all worked out.
SITE PLAN PZ 54-2016 SEAR TYPE UNLISTED BIG BAY LODGING, LLC (HILTON
HOME2 SUITES) AGENT(S) BOHLER ENGINEERING MA OWNER(S) FRANK J.
PARILLO ZONING CI LOCATION BIG BAY RD., SE CORNER OF CORINTH RD.
APPLICANT PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT A 15,095 SQ. FT. (FOOTPRINT), FOUR STORY
(66 FT.) HILTON HOME2 SUITES HOTEL BUILDING WITH 89 ROOMS, ASSOCIATED
PARKING AND INTER-CONNECT BETWEEN CORINTH AND BIG BAY ROADS. PROJECT
INCLUDES SITE WORK FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND CONNECTION TO
MUNICIPAL WATER AND SEWER. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040 OF THE ZONING
ORDINANCE, MOTELS SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND
APPROVAL. VARIANCE: RELIEF IS REQUESTED FROM HEIGHT, FAR, PHYSICAL
ACCESS. CROSS REFERENCE AV 74-2016, SV 53-11, & SP 54-11 TACO BELL; SP 31-
12 & SP 2-13 CLEARING; 9/97 OFF PREMISES SIGN; P23-94 ZONE CHANGE.
RECOMMENDED, DENIAL; SP 31-96 PRODUCE STAND; UV 35-97 DENIED MOBILE HOME
WARREN CO. REFERRAL FEBRUARY 2016 LOT SIZE 2.3 ACRES PORTION OF 6.70
ACRES TAX MAP NO. 309.13-2-2 THROUGH 9 SECTION 179-3-040
CHRIS BOYEA &JOSH O'CONNOR, REPRESENTING APPLICANT, PRESENT
MR. HUNSINGER-And we're going to table this to the April 28th meeting.
MRS. MOORE-No, this'll be May.
MR. HUNSINGER-I'm sorry. May 19th. I have it right in front of me. Yes, we're going to hear
a little presentation and we'll give you an opportunity to make some comments, ma'am. Laura
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had indicated that you wanted to spend a couple of minutes on this to update a couple of items
to the Board.
MR. BOYEA-Again, for the record, my name's Chris Boyea. I'm with Bohler Engineering, and
this application seems pretty straightforward. We had initially reviewed this proposed hotel that
will be located behind Taco Bell at the Exit 18 interchange, and it seems to fit well. There
wasn't a lot of request for changes or items that have been made. We did provide some snow
storage and for the general public that's here, it will be a four story hotel, just like the prior
project. It's a smaller room count. It's in the 80's, not 100, and it would be utilizing the existing
curb cut on Corinth Road, and then we would be going out the Big Bay Road with a shared
access drive. This site plan looks pretty straightforward. We do need a variance for this. It's
a height variance and a floor area ratio variance, and so we were at the Zoning Board and they
reviewed this and it was an item, with the recent Code changes that are proposed, where the
height would be allowed, potentially, but the Code would need to be updated. Obviously if you
increase height then it increases your floor area ratio. So I think that that's getting worked out.
I see Laura shaking her head. So that's good. So we're working through that now. So that's
the reason for being tabled here tonight is because until we get those variances, you know,
there's not much more we can talk about here, but we're certainly happy to listen to any
comments, questions or concerns on this, as we feel we have a great project. We just have
those technicalities to work through at the Zoning Board level, which is the height and the floor
area ratio. I do know that there are a few folks in the public that were at the Zoning Board and
they will want to comment here as well, and we will be happy to listen and take good notes and
continue moving forward with a successful project. We understand, though, that the Board will
be taking, most likely, no action here tonight and that we'll have to go back to the Zoning Board
to wrap that up, but like I said, we're happy to get any information. It's good to share
information. Thank you.
MR. HUNSINGER-If I could ask, Laura, if you know, what were the reasons for why the Zoning
Board tabled it?
MRS. MOORE-The Zoning Board was concerned with the height and the parapet proposed.
They thought it was too tall.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay.
MRS. MOORE-And then they were concerned about the floor area ratio because in this zone it
was .3, or 30%, and the applicant was requesting 60%, and at this time the new revisions
potentially will say a 70 foot height is permissible through Site Plan Review or Special Use
Permit, and with the floor area ratio, it looks like that will not be part of that particular overlay
zone, but that's still up to the Town Board.
MR. HUNSINGER-So is it fair to say then that the Zoning Board isn't comfortable with the
proposed changes to the zone?
MRS. MOORE-I don't know that.
MR. HUNSINGER-If they were concerned that the height was too high and the proposed zoning
change is even higher than this project.
MRS. MOORE-They were concerned about a proposed feature on the building itself. It wasn't
the building, it was a feature of the building.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay.
MR. BOYEA-To elaborate on that just a little bit more, we did bring an elevation here, and as
you can see, the general roofline of this is 52 feet here, and so that's actually less than they
granted for the hotel across the street, but what you'll notice is that there's a piece here that
sticks up, like a cupola or a turret, that sticks up here, and that in itself brings it up to 66, 67 feet,
and so they were just concerned that, you know, that's very close to the 70 foot. That's not just
a five foot or a six foot. That really pushes you up there. So, I mean, that has left to be worked
out, whether that stays. I mean, the Board might, the Town Board may approve the zoning that
allows the 70 foot for that turret to stay, or, you know, it's potential that that turret might come
down a little bit, or it might be gone all together. I think we need to work through that for sure.
MR. HUNSINGER-What's the purpose of the turret?
MR. FERONE-Yes, I was just going to say, is that elevator or mechanical?
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MR. BOYEA-Well, there is an elevator shaft in there. However, it doesn't need to occupy the
full, I mean, I can't tell you that it needs all of it. I think there is some room to cut it down, if the
Zoning Board feels that intense about it. I think that the end of the meeting, when we looked at
those numbers and we said it's not just this one number but it's the overall roof is down, my
sense was, I guess this is a feeling not a fact, but my sense was that the bigger hurdle was the
lot coverage for it because it was running over twice of what was allowed. I think that was the
bigger hurdle.
MR. HUNSINGER-Which is always interesting, you know, kind of illustrates the difference
between what the Zoning Board looks at and what the Planning Board looks at, and, you know,
we think the lot coverage, floor area ratios is an environmental concern, you know, is there
enough room for stormwater management and things like that. So to me as the planner I'm not
as concerned with floor area ratio, but to someone on the Zoning Board, when you're looking at
a variance that's double, you know, what the Code allows, it becomes a big concern.
MR. BOYEA-Yes, but, and just for some additional color here, this is a great project. It's a very
successful project, and in our opinion it's definitely going to move forward because there are
solutions to all of it, whether we could lower this, get this removed, you know, that's a potential.
Whether we adjust property lines potentially here, because that would be the other option. If
we were to occupy or control more land, it brings the ratio down. This is a subdivision so we
could work something out with the current property owner Mr. Parillo. There's options here.
So I'm very comfortable that I will be back in front of this Board and you will see me again here
because there's a lot of give and take. That's how it's going to happen. There's a lot of
adjustments that we can make to address those two issues.
MR. MAGOWAN-Is that a signature tower or something?
MR. BOYEA-It's something that they like to have, yes.
MR. HUNSINGER-And they're proposing a bright color? Is that a fair depiction?
MR. BOYEA-That's correct. Yes.
MR. HUNSINGER-Is there a sign on it or just a color?
MR. BOYEA-There is not. Well, there are options with signs, yes. However, we're allowed one
wall sign and one freestanding sign. So that's what we're proposing is to be zoning compliant,
and we have no application pending before the Zoning Board for additional signage. So
they've just opted to not put the signs on.
MR. HUNSINGER-Based on what you just said for the last project, the elevations of the
Northway and the elevations of the land around the building, what's the likelihood that you'll
even see that? Or is that towards the front of the building?
MR. BOYEA-It is towards the front of the building. Well, and as you can see here, actually, this
is a great picture actually. So here's the port cochere, and you can see it's just towards the
front of the building, yes, it doesn't extend the whole.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay.
MR. FERONE-One of the discussions last week was traffic as well with this project, and there
was some discussion between the hotel developer and the property owner who was going to be
responsible for that. Do you know if they came to any consensus on that?
MR. BOYEA-I know that all the discussions have started and they probably would have been
done by now if we didn't get tabled. So, and depending on the outcome of that, it might not be
necessary, and actually I think the outcome of the application just prior to us have paved the
way probably to really make that all go away because this application was reviewed with the
application before us. Creighton Manning Engineering has reviewed both of them and so I
believe the finding's going to be the same is that based on this hotel only, with 80 plus or minus
rooms, there isn't any mitigation warranted at this given time. However, there is future
development that's proposed here, just as in the application prior, that potentially could warrant
additional. So I actually think that it's going to go away based on, you know, we'll have to work
with Staff. Thankfully we have a month to do that, to work out some things, while we're going
back to the Zoning Board.
MR. FERONE-Thank you.
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MR. HUNSINGER-An additional question. We do have a, are you aware of the revised SEQR
resolution that was prepared?
MR. BOYEA-I'm not, but is that the same thing to address?
MR. HUNSINGER-Well, it's really just one brief sentence. It specifically talks about the traffic
mitigation measures, and it says these improvements include a new northbound right hand turn
lane from Big Bay Road to Corinth Road.
MR. BOYEA-Okay. That sounds different than the prior application. Where it said, you know, I
think it would be tied to future buildout.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, no, it is.
MRS. MOORE-It is.
MR. BOYEA-Okay. Yes, not looking at it, that sounds great. If it was the same as the
application before, the same spirit?
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes.
MR. BOYEA-That sounds good, makes a lot of sense. That's great. Thank you.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. Any other questions from the Board? Okay. As I mentioned, Laura
had indicated there were going to be some people that wished to comment. We will open the
public hearing, and as I mentioned earlier, the purpose of the public hearing is for members of
the audience to address any questions they have to the Board, and I would ask anyone that
wishes to address the Board to speak clearly into the microphone. So do you want to come
up?
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
FLORENCE GOEDERT
MS. GOEDERT-Yes. Good evening. My name is Florence Goedert. I live over at 469 Big
Bay Road across the road from where this is happening. Well, first of all I thought this meeting
was concerning the sewer and water that was supposed to be put in. Because that's what the
letter said. Is that correct?
MRS. MOORE-I apologize. I don't know what letter you received.
MS. GOEDERT-You can look at it if you'd like. I says right down here about the sewer and
water.
MRS. MOORE-The project includes site work for stormwater management and connection to
municipal water and sewer along with construction of the hotel. So it's everything.
MS. GOEDERT-Okay. Because I was at the Zoning Board meeting last week, you know, we
had several concerns about the hotel being here. I don't know if this is the time to bring them
up.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, it is. Go ahead.
MS. GOEDERT-Because we brought up, and they told us make sure we came to this meeting
of the Planning Board. Because we brought up concerns about lighting, about buffering for the
noise level, the overflow of traffic this is going to create in this area, especially when you're
having three major hotels going in in this area. There's going to be a big overflow of traffic. I
don't know what the Town plans on doing about that. We're concerned with the water and
sewer. It was my understanding when I e-mailed you that this sewer will go on the east side of
Big Bay Road. I'm hoping that's correct, that it would be on the same side as the hotel's going
to be on.
MR. HUNSINGER-Boy, I don't know. Do you know, Laura?
MS. GOEDERT-Because there's a water, in our yard.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, they're going out to Corinth Road.
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MR. O'CONNOR-We're proposing sewer connection along the interconnect to an existing
manhole out here on Corinth Road.
MS. GOEDERT-Because another big concern we have with the hotel being there is how it's
going to affect our water pressure and such for the residents in that area. I'm trying to think.
Can you just give me a moment. I just want to make sure I covered everything. I think that
was all our concerns. They kind of addressed the type of people that would be staying there
and such, because we had concerns about that, of people getting out of prison, sexual
offenders, for example, and such staying in these hotels. I mean, like I stated last meeting, I'm
a survivor of rape and such and I don't care to be across the street from any sexual offenders or
anything. So those were our main concerns, the lighting, the traffic, the noise level, and the
water uses and such. So, I mean, that's our concerns. I don't know when those concerns will
be addressed.
MR. HUNSINGER-We'll ask him to.
MS. GOEDERT-Okay. I know last time, at the last meeting when I brought up the noise level,
he brought up the A/C units and stuff on top of the roof. We're not concerned with that. We're
concerned with the people noise levels and stuff, you know, so thank you.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, you're welcome. Was there anyone else that wishes to address the
Board? Okay. We will be tabling the public hearing as well. If the applicant wants to come
back to the table. I don't know if you want to address some of the concerns while the
neighbor's here. She talked about lighting, noise, traffic and water pressure specifically.
MR. BOYEA-So I guess we'll go one by one. The water demand and flow here. So when you
build, you know, four stories, as you go higher the pressure drops. So it's not uncommon that
we would put in booster pumps for our own uses that are here, and that's so that we don't
necessarily put an undue draw on the system that's out there. There is an established water
main that's out here, and it has plenty of capacity and what we have to do is we eventually have
to get a permit. These are construction permits from the utility that operates this. So we need
to get a permit from the sewer district and the water and the people who maintain this, and
they're looking at those types of things as well. The only really big fire, or big flow for water
systems that we would be drawing is in case of an emergency, and that would be limited, and
the general area may be impacted. We have a sprinkler system for this whole building, and if
that, God forbid, was to kick on, yes, we're going to draw a lot of water and we're going to have
a large water service. So when you see on the plans that we have, you know, a six inch line
coming in, that's really for fire, or, you know, catastrophic conditions. It's not for daily flow. We
would probably operate this whole hotel on an inch and a half to two inch service for just general
everyday use. So the reason for the large service is for fire protection. So it's therein case we
need it. As far as the type of occupants, again, I just want to re-iterate that this is exciting. This
is a Hilton brand Home2 Suites. We are looking, you know, I'm guessing our average room
rate might be around $150 a night. So we are not looking to attract people who might want to
use this as a residence for weeks at a time or months at a time. We are looking for that
business traveler or family vacation, those types of things. As far as noise goes, yes, we did
talk about the HVAC up top, and that will be protected by the parapet of the roof. It will be
protected just by sheer elevation that we're having any of our HVAC noise on a higher elevation
than the general surrounding area, but you have brought up a good point. We didn't talk about
this in the past is the general operation noise of the hotel. So there has been some thought put
into this, and I'm glad that the question was asked so we can discuss it in more detail. The
design of this general hotel and how it interacts with the established residential area that's there,
what we thought was the best way to do this was we have established a very large green space
next to the residential area, and in green space we can put our stormwater. So we've designed
our stormwater to be in the green space that's over there. It provides a buffer and it provides
green separation that's there. We will have an outdoor gathering space. There's actually two
of them, where a lot of action would happen or occur. Again, 89 rooms. So we don't have a
very big population here, but, you know, we expect everybody to be welcomed and greeted
through the port cochere that's out front, and so this is a high traffic area, and it faces Corinth
Road for that specific reason. Then if there is any outside, somebody wants to smoke, you
can't smoke inside this facility, but if you want to smoke, you have to step outside. We have
created that amenity over here on this side. So any type of people noise or talking, those types
of things should be on the Northway side of things, and I would venture to say that the noise
that was generated by the guests or the actual operations would be less than the ambient noise
of the interstate and/or the business of the industrial use when it's in operation. So we've tried
to address and lay something out that is logical. There's no way you would know any of this
unless you came to this meeting, and so I encourage more participation, etc. so that we can
make sure we have a great plan.
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MR. FERONE-Chris, what about things like deliveries, carting garbage, that kind of thing. Is
that all in the back of that?
MR. BOYEA-Boy, you're making me feel like I didn't do my job. I guess I should have told you
where the garbage is. There is a trash facility that's over here. So, yes, to answer the
question we're trying to keep any of the nuisance noise over on this side and the trash
enclosure is in this back right corner down here.
MR. MAGOWAN-So what about the service entrance then?
MR. BOYEA-Well, I'm not really sure that we have a service entrance. What we do have is, it's
pretty standard of the hotels, well it's long this way, and we have a door at the end of each,
those are the card key readers, but if they were going to take trash out, it would be out, yes, the
end of the facility and to the dumpster and then back out, but there is not going to be, the size of
this is a boutique-ish type hotel where it's small room count. There is no loading dock. There
is no raised platform. There is no receiving necessarily. There is no convention center. It's
not that big. It's 87, 89 rooms.
MR. MAGOWAN-So most of that's going to be taken care of.
MR. BOYEA-Right through the front door, yes. Any type of delivery they usually just come right
through the front door.
MR. HUNSINGER-Any other questions or comments from the Board? So we do plan to table
this to the May 19th meeting. There is, however, before we consider that, a draft amended
SEQR resolution that we received this evening. Are there any questions or comments on that
before we entertain the motion?
MRS. MOORE-I do have one amendment to that.
MR. HUNSINGER-Go ahead, Laura.
MRS. MOORE-Instead of a Developer's Agreement it's called a Development Agreement.
MR. HUNSINGER-Development Agreement. On the back, Item Three, Development.
MR. MAGOWAN-Development?
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes. Whenever you're ready.
RESOLUTION RE: AMENDED SEQR RESOLUTION SP PZ 54-2016 BIG BAY LODGING,
LLC
The applicant proposes to construct a 15,095 sq. ft. (footprint), four story (66 ft.), Hilton Home2
Suites hotel building with 89 rooms, associated parking and inter-connect between Corinth and
Big Bay Roads. Project includes site work for stormwater management and connection to
municipal water and sewer. Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040 of the Zoning Ordinance, motels
and hotels shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval.
The Planning Board has determined that the proposed project and Planning Board action is
subject to review under the State Environmental Quality Review Act;
The proposed action considered by this Board is Unlisted in the Department of Environmental
Conservation Regulations implementing the State Environmental Quality Review Act and the
regulations of the Town of Queensbury;
No Federal or other agencies are involved;
Part 1 of the Short EAF has been completed by the applicant;
Upon review of the information recorded on this EAF, it is the conclusion of the Town of
Queensbury Planning Board as lead agency that this project will result in no significant adverse
impacts on the environment, and, therefore, an environmental impact statement need not be
prepared. Accordingly, this negative declaration is issued.
AMENDED FOR NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR SP PZ 54-2016, BIG BAY LODGING, LLC,
Introduced by Brad Magowan who moved for its adoption, seconded by Stephen Traver;
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1. Part II of the Short EAF has been reviewed and completed by the Planning Board.
2. Part III of the Short EAF is not necessary because the Planning Board did not identify
potentially moderate to large impacts.
3. During the environmental review of the short form under question 5 the board indicated there
would be no or small impact may occur because the applicant agreed to enter into a
Developer's Agreement establishing the timing and cost contribution to traffic mitigation
measures identified in the Exit 18 Rezone study included for the Big Bay Road/Corinth
Road intersection. Those improvements include:
1. a new northbound right-turn lane from Big Bay Road to Corinth Road
Duly adopted this 22nd day of March, 2016 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Traver, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Magowan, Ms. White, Mr. Deeb, Mr. Hunsinger
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: Mr. Schonewolf
MR. HUNSINGER-And also in our package is a draft resolution to table this to the May 19th
meeting. We will also table the public hearing to the same meeting. Would anyone like to
make that motion.
RESOLUTION TABLING SP PZ 54-2016 BIG BAY LODGING, LLC (HILTON HOME2
SUITES)
MOTION TO TABLE SITE PLAN PZ 54-2016 BIG BAY LODGING, LLC, Introduced by Brad
Magowan who moved for its adoption, seconded by George Ferone:
Tabled until the May 19, 2016 Planning Board meeting.
Duly adopted this 22nd day of March, 2016, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Ferone, Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Traver, Mr. Hunsinger
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: Mr. Schonewolf
MR. HUNSINGER-Ma'am, you're certainly welcome to come and make comments again on
May 19th and also in the meantime if you have any questions you can stop in to the Planning
Office at Town Hall.
MS. GOEDERT-Okay. Thank you.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, you're welcome.
SITE PLAN PZ 80-2016 SEAR TYPE TYPE II FRANK DENARDO OWNER(S) FRANK
DENARDO ZONING RR-5A LOCATION 2380 RIDGE ROAD APPLICANT PROPOSES
TO ALTER EXISTING HOME WITH NEW PORCHES — FRONT AT 230 SQ. FT. AND REAR
PORCH AT 224 SQ. FT. PROJECT INCLUDES ALTERATION TO THE ROOFLINE FOR A
PORTION OF THE HOME TO CREATE A 23' 11" HEIGHT. ALSO A NEW BALCONY ON
THE REAR PORTION OF THE HOME. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-13-010 OF THE
ZONING ORDINANCE, EXPANSION IN A CEA OF A NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURE
SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS
REFERENCE BP 2015-493 FRONT/BACK PORCHES; BP 2015-357 FIREPLACE WARREN
CO. REFERRAL MARCH 2016 LOT SIZE 100' X 150' TAX MAP NO. 240.-1-31 SECTION
179-10-0130
FRANK DE NARDO, PRESENT
MRS. MOORE-Okay. This applicant did receive the variance last week in reference to the
setbacks on front, side, rear, and this is to develop, renovate an existing house with a front
porch and rear porch, as well as a balcony and to increase the height to 23 feet 11 inches.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. Thank you. Good evening.
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MR. DE NARDO-For the record, I'm Frank DeNardo.
MR. HUNSINGER-Did you have anything that you wanted to add?
MR. DE NARDO-I do not at this time.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. Questions, comments from the Board?
MR. FERONE-I think we reviewed this pretty well last week.
MR. DEEB-They came right through the Zoning Board.
MR. HUNSINGER-You got your variances?
MR. DE NARDO-Yes, we did. WE do have a public hearing scheduled this evening. Is there
anyone that wishes to address the Board? Any written comments, Laura?
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
MRS. MOORE-There's no written comments.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. We will open the public hearing and let the record show no
comments were received. We will close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR. HUNSINGER-This is a Type II SEQR so no SEQR review is required, and unless there's
any other questions or comments from the Board, there is a draft resolution in your package.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SP PZ 80-2016 FRANK DE NARDO
The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board for Site Plan approval
pursuant to Article 9 of the Town zoning Ordinance for: Applicant proposes to alter existing
home with new porches — front at 230 sq. ft. and rear porch at 224 sq. ft. Project includes
alteration to the roofline for a portion of the home to create a 23'11" height. Also a new balcony
on the rear portion of the home. Pursuant to Chapter 179-10-0130 of the Zoning Ordinance,
expansion in a CEA of a non-conforming structure shall be subject to Planning Board review
and approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-080, the
Planning Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the
Zoning Code;
As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to
the Warren County Planning Department for its recommendation;
The Planning Board has reviewed the potential environmental impacts of the project, pursuant
to the State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA) and adopted a SEQRA Negative
Declaration — Determination of Non-Significance
The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 3/22/2016, and
continued the public hearing to 3/22 2016, when it was closed,
The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all
comments made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 3/22/2016;
The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and
standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval,
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN PZ 80-2016 FRANK DENARDO; Introduced by Brad
Magowan who moved for its adoption, seconded by David Deeb:
Per the draft provided by staff conditioned upon the following conditions:
1) Waivers request rg anted:
2 Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution.
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a) Final approved plans, in compliance with the Site Plan, must be submitted to the
Community Development Department before any further review by the Zoning
Administrator or Building and Codes personnel;
b) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of
Building Permit and/or the beginning of any site work;
c) Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on
compliance with this and all other conditions of this resolution;
d) Resolution to be placed on final plans in its entirety and legible.
Duly adopted this 22nd day of March, 2016, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Traver, Mr. Hunsinger
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: Mr. Schonewolf
MR. HUNSINGER-You're all set. Good luck.
NEW BUSINESS:
SITE PLAN PZ 75-2016 SEAR TYPE TYPE II WILLIAM RUDENKO OWNER(S) JAMES
VALASTRO ZONING NC LOCATION 982 STATE ROUTE 149 APPLICANT PROPOSES
TO PLACE A 20 FT. X 20 FT. CANOPY STRUCTURE ON AN EXISTING LOT FOR A
PRODUCE STAND. THE STAND WE OPERATED SEASONALLY FOR 10 YEARS PER
AGREEMENT. SITE ALSO CONTAINS A RESTAURANT. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-
3-040 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, PRODUCE STANDS SHALL BE SUBJECT TO
PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE SP 60-12
ENLARGE DECK, BP 2003971 INT. ALT., 2012484 DECK, 2002714 CONSTRUCT SIGN,
2002049 WALL SIGN, 2000530 SEPTIC ALTERATION WARREN CO. REFERRAL MARCH
2016 LOT SIZE 2.74 ACRES TAX MAP NO. 279.-1-9 SECTION 179-3-040
BILL RUDENKO, PRESENT
MR. HUNSINGER-Laura?
MRS. MOORE-Okay. This applicant proposes a seasonal produce stand, a 20 by 20 foot
canopy structure. They have an agreement with a project site, and it is to extend for a 10 year
agreement, and it's called the Adirondack Bar& Grill. So it's on that site.
MR. RUDENKO-Good evening. My name is Bill Rudenko. I am a partner with Bull Hill Farms
Orchard. So I've been elected to make the presentation here tonight by my wife and my three
daughters who are also partners in the business. We do operate a number of produce stands in
Washington and Warren County. We have the Queensbury Church of Christ on Aviation Road
and the Elks Lodge on Cronin Road. Both of those locations provide safe egress and access to
this site, I mean to their sites, and this site is no exception to the rule. It's safe for cars to pull
in, relatively safe, considering Route 149 during July and August, which is the peak months of
our business, but there are two 70 foot wide curb cuts along Route 149 where traffic can pull in
and out of that parking lot and I believe the curb cut on Route 9 north it's about 30, 35 feet.
The parking is ample, more than ample, I believe. I believe during the hours when the
restaurant is most active would be primarily dinner time, maybe four o'clock on. So the parking
lot is essentially, perhaps 50% ours, and we only need parking for about six to eight vehicles at
any given moment. So we're pleased with the site. If there are any questions or concerns, I'd
be more than happy to do my best to answer them.
MR. HUNSINGER-Any questions or comments from the Board?
MR. FERONE-Where would your stand be exactly? I was kind of looking there and there's a lot
of property next to the restaurant on the side there. Is it going to be more towards the front kind
of right on the edge of where the parking is?
MR. RUDENKO-Are you familiar with the lilac bush?
MR. FERONE-Yes. That's it?
MR. RUDENKO-That's going to be moved.
MR. FERONE-Okay. See that was another question.
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MR. RUDENKO-Yes, yes, that will be moved. It will be transplanted over on the other border.
MR. FERONE-Okay, because that's the only thing that was there. Everything else was grass,
and you won't conflict with parking required for the restaurant because it seems like they're
pretty busy.
MR. RUDENKO-Yes, they can get pretty busy in July, up until about August 15tH
MR. FERONE-1 mean, they've got plenty of parking on the Ridge Road side.
MR. RUDENKO-Yes. There is. I think I show some excess parking.
MR. DEEB-They're looking for 10 years. We talked about this for the last one, about 10 years.
I thought we did five.
MRS. MOORE-The applicant has an agreement with that tenant or that property owner for 10
years.
MR. DEEB-All right. So our approval would be based on how many years?
MRS. MOORE-That is up to the Board.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, it's up to us to decide. I had a similar thought. I don't know if we've
ever provided a 10 year approval.
MR. DEEB-Yes, we discussed this with the last one we had, the one up on Ridge Road.
MR. HUNSINGER-Did we give it 10 years?
MR. DEEB-No. I think we gave them five.
MR. FERONE-We gave them five.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes. Any other comments on the term? Any other questions or comments
from the Board? Okay. We do have a public hearing scheduled this evening. Is there anyone
in the audience who wishes to address the Board? No hands. Written comments?
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
MRS. MOORE-There's no written comments.
MR. HUNSINGER-We'll open the public hearing and let the record show no comments were
received. We will close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR. HUNSINGER-Any further discussion from the Board?
MR. RUDENKO-May I just comment on the request for the 10 years?
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, go ahead.
MR. RUDENKO-Well, we have, I come here regularly.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, we know.
MR. RUDENKO-We have the Aviation, the Church of Christ on Aviation Road and the Elks
Lodge and this would be our third location in Queensbury. I like coming here but I'm trying to
cut down on the number of trips where I have to come back because the agreement is non-
binding between the owner and myself. I mean, if the property changes hands a new owner
could say, that's it, you're out of here, or the owner may not be satisfied with our agreement at
any given moment. He could say, well, without notice, I'm sure he'd give us three or five
weeks' notice, but at any time he could say, well, I'm not happy with the way this is working out,
you're taking up too many parking spaces or you're way too busy and my customers don't have,
when they show up for lunch or dinner there's no parking places because of your business. So
there's a lot of flexibility. Of course, and then again if the business, Route 149 is very, very
odd. We opened one location on 149 where the first year we were extremely busy. It was the
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star of all of our locations. The next year it dropped by 50%. The third year it went down by
another 25%, and that was our last year there. So there are so many variables that come into
play. I would appreciate the option of the 10 years, if it please the Board. That raises another
question. I'm going to be 70 years old next year. My wife, of course she's 20 years younger
than me and my youngest daughter who's a partner in the business is 17. So I was hoping
when I come back for the Queensbury Church of Christ and down the road for the Elks Lodge, I
was going to ask for 25 years, because maybe I'll bring my wife and let her get it in her name,
but the point is if the businesses are established and he Church is happy and the Elks Lodge is
happy, if everybody's happy, we will keep going on and on. It won't be in to perpetuity.
Eventually somebody will have to come back in here and get the application re-upped, but I
would just appreciate a little flexibility.
MR. FERONE-Would it be advantageous to you to get all three lined up so that they're all on the
same schedule, instead of having to come back three times for three different sites?
MR. RUDENKO-Yes, if that would work out, but it's like calling prescriptions in to Wal-Mart.
MRS. MOORE-We'd have to, as Staff, we'd have to do a little bit of research and they'd come in
for a site plan modification basically to align the dates, basically.
MR. DEEB-And if that were done, then I would say we'd go five years and agree to go another
five years, just without. How did you do it the last time? You just came in, you had to come
back in.
MRS. MOORE-It's the same thing, it would be the same process.
MR. DEEB-The same thing, but we're not trying to limit what you can do.
MR. FERONE-Would he be able to come in and have all three all done together at one time?
MRS. MOORE-1 believe if the applicant currently standing, come in for a site plan modification,
and have all of them lined up, then the applicant could say I have, from now, from this point
further, we'll attend to this every 10 years, and then you'd see that set of applications come
back every 10 years. So I think it's possible through a modification, and that's something that
the applicant can explore.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes.
MRS. MOORE-Okay.
MR. HUNSINGER-Certainly it would be in your best interest.
MR. DEEB-Yes.
MR. HUNSINGER-And then you wouldn't have to worry, well, am I up this year or next year or,
you know, yes.
MR. FERONE-And the other two seem to be ongoing.
MR. RUDENKO-Yes, they are.
MR. DEEB-Well, didn't last year we just do the one at the Elk's Lodge?
MR. RUDENKO-No, this year will be our third year at the Elk's Lodge. Third year, time passes
so fast.
MR. HUNSINGER-It does.
MR. RUDENKO-This season will be our third year.
MR. HUNSINGER-So, I mean, personally my own feeling is I can see it kind of both ways. The
Comprehensive Land Use Plan encourages farm stands. I don't know if we've ever turned one
down. I don't think we've ever asked for any significant modifications. We've pretty much
approved what gets proposed. Added to that, it's kind of hard to imagine what may go wrong
that would cause us to not approve it, you know, unless there was some, you know, major traffic
issue, but it's kind of hard to imagine that happening with a seasonal farm stand.
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MR. RUDENKO-Regarding the traffic issues, the three locations, if this location is approved,
they have some most ample parking and the best ingress and egress from the site. They're
relatively safe compared to some of our other locations. One of them's downright dangerous in
Kingsbury, but it's also our busiest location. These three, there's plenty of existing parking.
MR. MAGOWAN-They're used to that traffic out there anyway.
MR. RUDENKO-Are you familiar with across from Falls Farm and Garden? That's a speedway.
MR. HUNSINGER-But then the flipside is we've never approved one for more than five years.
MR. DEEB-We didn't do the last one for more than five years. It wouldn't be fair to him.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes.
MR. DEEB-He asked for 10 and we did not give it to him.
MR. HUNSINGER-Right.
MR. DEEB-So I think we should remain consistent as a Board.
MR. HUNSINGER-Give them five.
MR. DEEB-And then get everything lined up and come back in and you only have to do it once
every five years for all three of them. You just get a modified site plan.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes. So whenever your next one is up, which would probably be the one at
the Elk's, in two years.
MR. RUDENKO-After this season there'd be two more years remaining on the Elk's Lodge.
MR. HUNSINGER-So when you come back for the Elk's, you can have this modified and your
other one modified so that they all would be up at the same time.
MR. DEEB-What about the Aviation Road? When's that due.
MR. RUDENKO-That's what I'm thinking, two more years there also.
MR. HUNSINGER-I think we just extended that one last year.
MR. DEEB-I can't remember. There were so many.
MR. HUNSINGER-Jamie thinks it was last year, too.
MR. DEEB-I thought it was last year. I thought we talked to you last year. We might not have.
I don't know, but I think that's the way we should probably go.
MR. HUNSINGER-I'm looking at the draft resolution here. I don't see where it has the term.
MRS. MOORE-It's not subject to a term.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay.
MRS. MOORE-So that's something that the Board has done through consistency.
MR. DEEB-We need to add that.
MRS. MOORE-It's not part of the Code requirements.
MR. MAGOWAN-So could we add it?
MRS. MOORE-As a condition, yes.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes.
MR. FERONE-We approve this for five years and it's up to the applicant to try to line up the
other two so he only has to come here once.
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MR. HUNSINGER-Yes.
MR. DEEB-Yes, it'll be a site plan modification and then he'll have them all lined up, and I would
be okay if it was two years from now to have all of them for five years from that date.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes.
MR. RUDENKO-You're saying you will approve this location here at the Adirondack Bar and
Grill for five years, which means the last year would be in 2020. So when the Elk's Lodge on
Cronin Road comes up in 2018, what will happen at that point? It won't be for five years, it'll be
for two years?
MR. HUNSINGER-Ask to have this one and the one at the Church modified so that they all
would have five years from that date.
MR. DEEB-From that date on.
MR. RUDENKO-What date? What year specifically?
MR. DEEB-Whichever comes up first, all right. Then we'll modify the other two so that they'll all
be approved for five years, which would be 2023, for all of them.
MR. RUDENKO-All of them.
MR. DEEB-Right. So you'd only have to come back once.
MR. MAGOWAN-So when you come back for one of them, you'll have to get an application for
modification on the other ones. Right?
MS. WHITE-The other two.
MRS. MOORE-Yes.
MR. MAGOWAN-With the other ones, and then we'll modify them all from five years on from
that.
MR. DEEB-We're trying to make it as efficient as possible for you. You'd only have to come
back once.
MR. RUDENKO-All right. So if I come back in 2018 for just Cronin Road, I can throw in the
Aviation Road property and this one and go for five years. So I only have to do that once to
make the adjustment and then every five years after that. Yes, that would be good. Yes.
MR. DEEB-Okay.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay.
MR. RUDENKO-So it would only be one $100 fee?
MRS. MOORE-That's something that we'll have to review.
MR. RUDENKO-All right. That sounds reasonable. That would simplify things for me.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes. It would make it easier for you.
MR. MAGOWAN-But you did write down for a modification.
MR. RUDENKO-Application for modification.
MR. MAGOWAN-Right.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes.
MR. RUDENKO-And I would obtain this from you, Laura?
MRS. MOORE-Yes.
MR. DEEB-Laura will work with you.
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MR. RUDENKO-So I'd have to actually get two applications for modification, one for Aviation
Road and one for Cronin Road.
MRS. MOORE-Yes.
MR. RUDENKO-All right.
MR. DEEB-We'll get you straightened out. Laura's really good at this.
MR. HUNSINGER-All right. Would anyone like to make a motion?
RESOLUTION APPROVING SP PZ 75-2016 WILLIAM RUDENKO
The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board for Site Plan approval
pursuant to Article 9 of the Town zoning Ordinance for: Applicant proposes to place a 20 ft. x 20
ft. canopy structure on an existing lot for a produce stand. The stand we operated seasonally
for 10 years per agreement. Site also contains a restaurant. Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040 of
the Zoning Ordinance, produce stands shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-080, the
Planning Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the
Zoning Code;
As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to
the Warren County Planning Department for its recommendation;
The Planning Board has reviewed the potential environmental impacts of the project, pursuant
to the State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA) and adopted a SEQRA Negative
Declaration — Determination of Non-Significance
The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 3/22/2016, and
continued the public hearing to 3/22/2016, when it was closed,
The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all
comments made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 3/22/2016;
The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and
standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval,
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN PZ 75-2016 WILLIAM RUDENKO, Introduced by Brad
Magowan who moved for its adoption, seconded by George Ferone:
Per the draft provided by staff conditioned upon the following conditions:
1) Waivers request granted:
2 Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution.
a) Final approved plans, in compliance with the Site Plan, must be submitted to the
Community Development Department before any further review by the Zoning
Administrator or Building and Codes personnel;
b) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of
Building Permit and/or the beginning of any site work;
C) Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent
on compliance with this and all other conditions of this resolution;
d) Resolution to be placed on final plans in its entirety and legible.
e) This approval is for a five year stand.
Duly adopted this 22nd day of March, 2016, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Magowan, Ms. White, Mr. Deeb, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Traver, Mr. Hunsinger
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: Mr. Schonewolf
MR. HUNSINGER-You're all set.
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MR. RUDENKO-Thank you very much.
MR. DEEB-You're welcome.
SITE PLAN PZ 81-2016 SEAR TYPE UNLISTED APEX SOLAR POWER OWNER(S)
BENJAMIN ARONSON ZONING MS LOCATION 64 MAIN STREET APPLICANT
PROPOSES TO RENOVATE THE EXISTING WEST SIDE PARKING AND RENOVATION OF
THE FRONT FACADE. INTERNAL ALTERATIONS OF OFFICE AREA. PURSUANT TO
CHAPTER 179-30-040 & 179-7-030 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, ALTERATIONS TO
COMMERCIAL BUILDING AND SITE DEVELOPMENT OF A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED
PLAN SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS
REFERENCE SP64-2015, SUP64-2015, SP21-2012, AV 10-02, SP 49-99, AV 83-99, SP 22-
97, AV 19-97, US 18-97, UV 14-94, AV 15-94, AV 94-92, AV 29-92, AV 1287, VAR. 777
WARREN CO. REFERRAL MARCH 2016 LOT SIZE 1.272 ACRE WEST SIDE & 0.496
ACRES EAST SIDE TAX MAP NO. 309.10-1-10 SECTION 179-3-040 & 179-7-030
ANDY ALLISON, SARA TUTTLE & STAN DOBERT, REPRESENTING APPLICANT, PRESENT
MR. HUNSINGER-Laura?
MRS. MOORE-Okay. The applicant proposes to renovate the existing west side parking area
and renovation of the front facade and internal alterations of the office area are proposed. I did
speak with the applicant today. We talked about some of the items under the summary where I
suggested that additional information on signage materials be provided. The applicant has
indicated it's a metal sign with gooseneck lighting that's going to be installed. There's a
proposal for a sidewalk access from the building to Main Street is being considered and
probably will show up on the final plans. The dumpster area screening materials. It's
understood that there's no chain link fencing to be installed and the applicant will decide what
sort of features will be used to screen the dumpster area.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. Thank you. Good evening.
MS. TUTTLE-Good evening.
MR. HUNSINGER-If you could identify yourselves for the record.
MS. TUTTLE-Okay. I'm Sara Tuttle and I am an architect from AJ Architecture and Planning.
I'm here with Stan.
MR. DOBERT-Stan Dobert.
MR. ALLISON-And Andy Allison with AJ Architecture and Planning.
MS. TUTTLE-So we're proposing to do some exterior modifications as well as interior
modifications for Apex Solar Power. There's also been significant parking plan changes to try
to make that work better as well. We're proposing a new conference room to close in the
existing loading dock that's on the site, which will be glass and large glass facades on the front
of the building as well to really make that look a lot better. The existing building itself looked
not so good before so we've really jazzed it up with some new facades, makes that a lot
friendlier and keeps in scale with the surrounding buildings and some of the new buildings that
are going up. We've tried to match all of the new planning requirements as far as we possibly
can, as far as we have not changed the existing footprint of the building. So we were kind of
restricted in some of the aspects of what we could do, but we met every requirement as far as
we could.
MR. ALLISON-We did present the project I think at the last meeting. So I don't know if you
want us to walk through a detailed review of the design. We certainly can do that, but we're
here to sort of answer the questions that may come up I think at this point.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay.
MR. MAGOWAN-I'll never forget that. It was a beautiful design. I love it. I just, I like the look
and it's going to turn that building right around.
MR. FERONE-1 agree.
MR. DEEB-It's a very attractive building.
MR. ALLISON-She did it.
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MR. MAGOWAN-Your presentation was very nice. You can tell you were very intent but
nervous.
MS. TUTTLE-Public speaking isn't really my thing yet.
MR. MAGOWAN-You have a great eye for design, though. The rest will come.
MR. HUNSINGER-Can you comment on the few comments that Staff had regarding the sign
materials, sidewalk access to Main Street, dumpster screening?
MS. TUTTLE-So the sign materials we're proposing new metal signs. The existing signs that
were there, if you'll remember we had some problems with it at our sketch meeting because
they were interiorly lit, internally lit. So we plan on replacing them with new metal signs. It's
new exterior lighting on the building to light the signs. The dumpster screening will not be chain
link fence. It'll probably be wood.
MR. ALLISON-We'll probably do a wood stockade fence around that, and the same for the
property line fence.
MS. TUTTLE-And then the connection to Main Street, Stan's exploring that option. I believe
right now there's existing sidewalk connecting our proposed parking to the front of the building,
and that's a green space, and that's where the existing sidewalk that's already going down Main
Street will remain. So we could explore some more options connecting that sidewalk to the
main sidewalk, if that was desired by the Board.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, you have an ADA compliant sidewalk that runs parallel with the front of
the building, but doesn't connect down to the Main Street sidewalk. So it seems like there's
certain space to have some sort of connection. I think that's all we're looking for.
MR. ALLISON-We could easily take that sidewalk that runs parallel to the east side of the
building and just extend that straight out to this.
MR. DEEB-Traffic flow, you've got an ingress from Main Street, but there will be no egress on
that, at that area.
MR. ALLISON-Right, and the new parking.
MR. DEEB-And the new parking lot on the west side. You go in, you come around, you go
back out on the other side. How are you going to keep that as a one way?
MR. ALLISON-Well, that side is mainly for Stan's workers. So that's also going to, we're going
to have to control that with some signage, a service and employee entrance only.
MR. DEEB-Any trucks entering that way?
MR. ALLISON-His own, probably his box trucks would come in.
MR. DEEB-They won't come in from the other side, from the side street?
MR. DOBERT-They come in from both directions, both entrances.
MRS. MOORE-This is a two way entrance on Second Street.
MR. DEEB-Yes. I know that.
MR. ALLISON-Second Street is two way and the one on Main Street is just one way in.
MR. DEEB-Okay.
MR. HUNSINGER-Any other questions or comments from the Board?
MR. DEEB-I think he's trying to fit in with the Main Street concept.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, I do, too.
MR. DEEB-And again, you did a good job there.
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MR. HUNSINGER-1 mean, it already looks a lot better.
MR. DEEB-And everything going on on that road, I think it's starting to come along. I think if
Bob Sears was here, I think he'd be happy.
MR. HUNSINGER-If there's no other questions or comments from the Board, we do have a
public hearing scheduled this evening. Is there anyone in the audience that wishes to address
the Board?
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
MRS. MOORE-There's no written comments.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay.
MRS. MOORE-And the only other item is in reference to the engineering comments.
MR. HUNSINGER-Right.
MR. DEEB-There were a lot of those.
MR. HUNSINGER-Did you have any comments on the engineering comments that are right in
front of you? It's mostly related to stormwater.
MR. DOBERT-1 spoke with Tom Jarrett about it and we reviewed all the items and the main
points that Chazen had were compliance with New York State, and everything is compliant, but
he just had some comments. There's an infiltration of the swale which should require a per
test, from what they said, but it's the same as the east side parking lot that we just did. It's the
same make up. So most likely a per test a couple of hundred feet away isn't going to be
necessary. That was one thing, and that was really, you know, there's an endangered species
thing that you have to provide, and an architect, historical. So there's no endangered species
that we know of.
MR. ALLISON-Yes, those should just be quick researches.
MR. DEEB-But you haven't gotten those yet.
MR. DOBERT-No, he's got half of them done but it's a little, we'll get all of them take care of for
sure. Nothing crazy that was sticking out.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. So the new light on the sign, what will that consist of?
MS. TUTTLE-The new lighting for the sign, there is no like monument signs. There's the two on
the building which you can see up there. They're going to be cut offs.
MR. ALLISON-Those will be LED dark sky compliant. We'll light those from above, shine back
on the building. We're not going to come up and light from the ground.
MRS. MOORE-This version that's up here is from the sketch version. I don't have the version
that they submitted with their application. So that's in your packets. I don't have it on this laser
fiche.
MR. DOBERT-The existing sign, is there an issue with the existing sign? Is there something
that you don't like about it. Because we did pay for them and they work and, you know, in order
to put the siding up we have to take the signs down and then I figure just put the signs back up.
MR. HUNSINGER-So the metal signs that you talked about a couple of minutes ago are the
ones that are there now?
MR. DOBERT-These are metal signs.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. Yes, the sign issue was the one that was going to be internally lit.
MR. MAGOWAN-Isn't that what they are?
MRS. MOORE-No. The versions that they provided in your materials is an externally lit sign
with goosenecks. So very similar to the Dollar General.
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MR. MAGOWAN-That's what I thought. I just wanted some clarification.
MR. HUNSINGER-Anything else from the Board? This is an Unlisted SEQR action. The
applicant did submit a Short Form. Before we consider that we'll need to close the public
hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR. HUNSINGER-Let the record show no comments were received. Are there any
environmental concerns that we have not discussed? Any items that may be considered a
moderate to large impact? Okay. There is a draft SEQR resolution in our packets if anyone
would like to move it.
RESOLUTION GRANTING A NEGATIVE SEQR DEC SP PZ 81-2016 APEX SOLAR
POWER
The applicant proposes to renovate the existing west side parking and renovation of the front
facade. Internal alterations of office area. Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040 & 179-7-030 of the
Zoning Ordinance, alterations to commercial building and site development of a previously
approved plan shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval.
The Planning Board has determined that the proposed project and Planning Board action is
subject to review under the State Environmental Quality Review Act;
The proposed action considered by this Board is Unlisted in the Department of Environmental
Conservation Regulations implementing the State Environmental Quality Review Act and the
regulations of the Town of Queensbury;
No Federal or other agencies are involved;
Part 1 of the Short EAF has been completed by the applicant;
Upon review of the information recorded on this EAF, it is the conclusion of the Town of
Queensbury Planning Board as lead agency that this project will result in no significant adverse
impacts on the environment, and, therefore, an environmental impact statement need not be
prepared. Accordingly, this negative declaration is issued.
MOTION TO GRANT A NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR SITE PLAN PZ 81-2016 APEX
SOLAR POWER, Introduced by Brad Magowan who moved for its adoption, seconded by David
Deeb;
As per the resolution prepared by staff.
1. Part 11 of the Short EAF has been reviewed and completed by the Planning Board.
2. Part III of the Short EAF is not necessary because the Planning Board did not identify
potentially moderate to large impacts.
Duly adopted this 22nd day of March, 2016 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Traver, Mr. Hunsinger
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: Mr. Schonewolf
MR. HUNSINGER-So there's a draft resolution. The couple of items that aren't included in
there is the sidewalk access to Main Street and then the fencing along the dumpster area and
buffer, and the applicant has indicated the placement of the stockade, and that they would
extend the sidewalk from the front of the building to the Main Street. Was there anything else
that we need to put in there? It already has language relative to the engineering signoff.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SP PZ 81-2016 APEX SOLAR POWER
The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board for Site Plan approval
pursuant to Article 9 of the Town zoning Ordinance for: Applicant proposes to renovate the
existing west side parking and renovation of the front facade. Internal alterations of office area.
Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040 & 179-7-030 of the Zoning Ordinance, alterations to commercial
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building and site development of a previously approved plan shall be subject to Planning Board
review and approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-080, the
Planning Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the
Zoning Code;
As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to
the Warren County Planning Department for its recommendation;
The Planning Board has reviewed the potential environmental impacts of the project, pursuant
to the State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA) and adopted a SEQRA Negative
Declaration — Determination of Non-Significance
The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 3/22/2016, and
continued the public hearing to 3/22/2016, when it was closed,
The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all
comments made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 3/22/2016;
The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and
standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval,
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN PZ 81-2016 APEX SOLAR POWER; Introduced by Brad
Magowan who moved for its adoption, seconded by Stephen Traver:
According to the draft resolution prepared by Staff with the following:
1) Waivers requested granted;
2. Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution.
a) The limits of clearing will constitute a no-cut buffer zone, orange construction
fencing shall be installed around these areas and field verified by Community
Development staff;
b) If applicable, the Sanitary Sewer connection plan must be submitted to the
Wastewater Department for its review, approval, permitting and inspection;
c) If curb cuts are being added or changed a driveway permit is required. A building
permit will not be issued until the approved driveway permit has been provided to the
Planning Office;
d) If application was referred to engineering then Engineering sign-off required prior to
signature of Zoning Administrator of the approved plans;
e) If required, the applicant must submit a copy of the following to the Town:
a. The project NOI (Notice of Intent) for coverage under the current "NYSDEC
SPDES General Permit from Construction Activity" prior to the start of any site
work.
b. The project NOT (Notice of Termination) upon completion of the project;
c. The applicant must maintain on their project site, for review by staff:
i. The approved final plans that have been stamped by the Town Zoning
Administrator. These plans must include the project SWPPP (Storm
Water Pollution Prevention Plan) when such a plan was prepared and
approved;
ii. The project NOI and proof of coverage under the current NYSDEC
SPDES General Permit, or an individual SPDES permit issued for the
project if required.
f) Final approved plans, in compliance with the Site Plan, must be submitted to the
Community Development Department before any further review by the Zoning
Administrator or Building and Codes personnel;
g) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of
Building Permit and/or the beginning of any site work;
h) Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on
compliance with this and all other conditions of this resolution;
i) As-built plans to certify that the site plan is developed according to the approved plans to
be provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy.
j) The applicant will extend the sidewalk down the east side to access Main Street.
k) A stockade fence around the dumpster.
I) This resolution is to be placed in its entirety on the final plans
Duly adopted this 22nd day of March, 2016, by the following vote:
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AYES: Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Traver, Mr. Hunsinger
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: Mr. Schonewolf
MR. HUNSINGER-You're all set. Good luck.
MS. TUTTLE-Thank you.
MR. DOBERT-Thank you.
SITE PLAN PZ 88-2016 SEAR TYPE UNLISTED TOM ROSECRANS & SUSAN BEDDLE
D/B/A TRSB ENTERPRISES AGENT(S) HIGHLANDER ENGINEERING OWNER(S) SAME
AS APPLICANT ZONING CLI LOCATION LOT 2, 54 CAREY ROAD APPLICANT
PROPOSES TO DEVELOP AN EXISTING VACANT SITE WITH AN 8,400 SQ. FT.
COMMERCIAL BUILDING WITH ASSOCIATED PARKING AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
COMMERCIAL BUILDING FOR ROCK SPORT CLIMBING, YOGA, INDOOR RECREATION
USAGE. PROJECT INCLUDES INSTALLATION OF AN ON-SITE SEPTIC SYSTEM.
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, NEW COMMERCIAL
DEVELOPMENT SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
CROSS REFERENCE SP 43-2003 WAREHOUSE-FLAGGED FOR CO NEEDED WARREN
CO. REFERRAL N/A LOT SIZE 2.437 ACRES TAX MAP NO. 308.20-1-3.5 SECTION
179-3-040
DAN BRUNO, REPRESENTING APPLICANT, PRESENT; TOM ROSECRANS, PRESENT
MR. HUNSINGER-Laura?
MRS. MOORE-Okay. I'll read this and maybe the Board can take a minute and I can sign
some things. The applicant proposes to develop an existing vacant site with an 8,400 square
foot commercial building with associated parking and infrastructure. The commercial building is
for a Rock Sport climbing and yoga center and an indoor recreational usage. The project also
includes at this time an on-site septic system.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. Thank you. Good evening.
MR. BRUNO-Good evening. I'm Dan Bruno with Highlander Engineering representing TRSB
Enterprises.
MR. ROSECRANS-Tom Rosecrans, president and emperor of Rock Sport.
KEN STANKEVICH
MR. STANKEVICH-I'm Ken Stankevich. Stankevich Architecture.
MR. HUNSINGER-Thank you.
MR. BRUNO-TRSB, Tom and his wife are proposing a rock climbing fitness facility at 54 Carey
Road, and as I stated in the introductory letter here if you want to look at the facility's an 8400
square foot building, two levels. There's a lower level in the front which will house the yoga
room, offices, and then probably 2/3 ds of the back portion of the building is probably 50, 55 feet
in height. That's where the actual rock climbing will occur in that area. We have, I talked to,
met with the Town engineer, Chris Harrington regarding sewer and water. There's a water
service extended across the road right at that location which we'll tie into. That will serve the
fire protection and the domestic water. I had been advised by a couple of different people or
entities that there is a possibility of municipal sewer being extended up there. However, at this
time, that's in flux. We're not really sure what's going to happen with that. So we have
designed a standard, if you will, septic system, although it's not standard, soils being what they
are here, perc a little too fast for a standard design. It's going to be a mound type system. So
I've designed that, but if it comes to pass that municipal sewer would be available before the
completion of this project then we would probably tie in to that. There is no landscaping per se.
In keeping with the nature, aspect of rock climbing, the owners desire to keep as much of the
natural vegetation, woods, etc. there. That lends itself to rock climbing, you know, you think of
rock climbing, you're outdoors, maybe the mountains, whatever. So we want to keep as much
of that natural vegetation, some tall trees. I've included some photographs in here, if you're not
familiar with the area.
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MR. FERONE-Well, there's plenty of vegetation there.
MR. BRUNO-Yes. So anyway, landscaping, if you want to call it that, is limited to some what
we call river stone. I don't know if you're familiar with that, between the sidewalk and the
building, a strip about four or five feet wide. It's multi-color stone sort of small cobblestone type
stuff. Parking has been designed in accordance with the Town regulations there. It's based
on the square footage and the occupancy. We've provided, I think, more than what would be
required by strict calculations. The reason I'm mentioning that, we did not show the dumpster
location on the plans at this time, but probably on the west side of the building around the back,
accessed off that parking lot, would be a small path with a dumpster there. If need be, we'll just
block off one parking space for service to that.
MR. HUNSINGER-Do you think you'll need a dumpster?
MR. ROSECRANS-Well, I'm hoping not.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes.
MR. BRUNO-They're not serving any food or anything.
MR. MAGOWAN-You should be able to do it with a couple of totes.
MR. ROSECRANS-We would like that to happen, and we want to be, I mean, where we are
now, we have to be environmentally sound because we only have 1100 square feet at the
Sports Page. I don't know if you're familiar with where we are now, and space is so tight. So
recycle and minimize our.
MR. MAGOWAN-You probably have that carry in, carry out policy.
MR. HUNSINGER-I mean, if you're not going to need a dumpster, you don't need to show one
on your plan, but if you are going to need one then you need to show one that complies with the
Code.
MR. BRUNO-Exactly, and we're not really there yet. If it comes to pass that we need one, we'll
have to modify that site plan. Additionally, on the site plan we have tried to make it, the access
to it friendly, pedestrian wise, etc. That's why I mentioned there's a crushed stone
walkway/bikeway off Carey Road into the site to encourage people traveling by bike or foot,
what have you, into the site.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. Questions, comments from the Board?
MR. FERONE-What are your hours of operation? Is it a five day?
MR. ROSECRANS-We're going to open like ten in the morning until ten at night.
MR. DEEB-Seven days a week?
MR. ROSECRANS-We don't do that now because we're just rock climbing. So it's more
afterschool, you know, four to ten during the week, weekends. So our busiest hours will
probably be when everybody else leaves the development.
MR. TRAVER-What about signage?
MR. BRUNO-We haven't gotten to that point just yet. We've talked about it, but we realize, if it
comes to pass, they probably will have some signage, we'll need another application.
MR. HUNSINGER-Well, as long as it's compliant.
MR. BRUNO-Yes.
MR. MAGOWAN-A little suggestion. When you're digging in that, if you come across a big rock,
put it out there and then have it edged, you know.
MR. ROSECRANS-Well, I was thinking of getting some sort of like pillar and standing it upright
and putting that out.
MR. HUNSINGER-We like rocks.
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MR. ROSECRANS-Me, too.
MR. HUNSINGER-1 mean, my main comment was on landscaping, and you addressed that, but,
you know, rocks are landscaping, too. So, but it would be nice to see some sort of vegetation
other than just gravel.
MR. FERONE-Do you have any options for signage on Corinth Road so that, you know, people
would be directed to your business?
MR. ROSECRANS-I'm not all that, I don't think we need it in this day and age. I thought that,
oh, I'm going to have to have it, you know, why not have it, but in this day and age most of the
people who come in our place are, and I'm an old fart so I don't get it, but, you know, my kids
do, the kids do.
MR. DEEB-Number Four on the comments, the project engineer states that the building is 8400
square feet, but the information on the hydroCAD indicates it's 10,900 square feet?
MR. BRUNO-That's a mistake. I'm addressing those. I did the hydroCAD.
MR. DEEB-What is the building?
MR. BRUNO-The building's 8400 square feet.
MR. DEEB-Okay.
MR. BRUNO-But actually the footprint is, what, 7200. The building footprint is 8400 square
feet, but there's a mezzanine in there. So that mezzanine bumps it up a little, but that was
incorrect. To be honest with you, I don't know how they got in there with. Additionally on those
comments, the septic system, the stormwater, etc. were based on historic data from when the
original subdivision was designed, the test pits and perc rates. Those, the perc rates, etc., will
be confirmed prior to construction. We'll get in there. When we initiated the design the ground
was frozen and what not. We couldn't get anybody to get in there and eat up any of their
equipment with the frost, but anyway, we will confirm that and submit that data regarding
seasonal high groundwater level and also the perc.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. I mean, that whole park is all sand.
MR. BRUNO-Right. That's good for the stormwater, bad for the septic. Mechanically, there
will be one large air handling unit inside the northern two thirds.
MRS. MOORE-Do you want me to do the interior?
MR. BRUNO-Sure. The point I'm going to make here is that most of the mechanical will be
contained inside the building. There won't be any rooftop units, exterior units. There'll be
possibly a couple of small condensing units outside because the one large unit on the northern
portion of the building, the portion with the rock climbing wall, there's a large unit only behind the
wall interior with a louver, intake louver, exhaust louver. Then there'll be two smaller units, one
in the mechanical room and possibly one on the mezzanine against the wall to serve those
areas there. Those two small units may require an exterior small condensing unit, which would
be placed outside. Back to your point, Mr. Hunsinger. Regarding the landscaping, if that's what
the Board desires, you know, we can add some shrubs or whatever to the front.
MR. DEEB-It can't hurt.
MR. HUNSINGER-Well, you know, it's one of those things where, I mean, it's an industrial park,
but all of the other uses, all of the other site plans that we've reviewed, we required them to
have some sort of landscaping plan. I don't know, I bring it up for discussion. I'm not sure how
strongly I feel about it, but it is worth discussing.
MR. BRUNO-We have not done that because, again, it was the owners desire to have it look as
natural as possible, but whatever the Board feels.
MR. FERONE-Are you going to keep the development, the disturbance tight so that you're just
going to in with the building, your parking, etc.
MR. BRUNO-Exactly. Right.
MR. ROSECRANS-Keeping as much of the existing vegetation as possible will remain.
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MR. BRUNO-And the areas that are disturbed will be graded, top soiled and seeded, but, you're
right, we're trying to minimize it as much as possible.
MR. MAGOWAN-Well, it is a metal building. I applaud you for trying to keep the vegetation as
close as you can to the building. With those pines and that in there, you're going to have
definitely a moss problem. That'll be one thing, and I'm more concerned of the sun not getting
enough, you know, for the parking lot and stuff like that, or it would be icier in the winter. Just
thoughts for you, not for me. Those are the two things I've come up with, because I've dealt
with people that, you know, want the trees right up to the building.
MR. BRUNO-There's roughly 50 feet around that we need to provide access for fire and
emergency access. So there is some distance there. It is indicated on the site plan.
MR. MAGOWAN-But, you know, some spruce around there just to break it up, just so it's not a
metal building in the middle of the woods, you know.
MR. ROSECRANS-Yes, we want it to look better than the other buildings that are back in there.
They're more spread out so they can clear cut, you know, we're going up more. When you look
at it from the road you'd be looking at it through the trees somewhat, and what we saw is that
the trees are much higher than the top of the building's going to be. So I won't be able to see it
from skiing at West Mountain if that ever happened.
MR. HUNSINGER-How high are the rock climbing walls?
MR. ROSECRANS-They'll be 45 feet.
MR. HUNSINGER-Wow.
MR. DEEB-They'll have harnesses, right? I'm sure they'll have to have harnesses.
MR. HUNSINGER-Here I was thinking I might go try it.
MR. BRUNO-There's a variety of wall heights in the facility for different climbing abilities. So
Tom can address that more than I, but it's not all 45 feet inside there. That is the highest part
there.
MS. WHITE-How high are they on current facility?
MR. ROSECRANS-Twenty-four feet.
MR. DEEB-A little more of a challenge. I can't wait to see it.
MR. ROSECRANS-Me, too. The layout is, the high wall is on the north side and then you can
explain.
MR. ROSECRANS-It kind of tapers down around the sides. There's like a new bouldering it,
they don't use ropes, but they do really hard stuff close to the ground. So that'll be like 12 feet
tall, and there'll be a freestanding boulder that they can get on top of and climb down the back
of and then big stuff in the middle and then what we call kiddie city on the side which would be
kind of like what we have now.
MS. WHITE-You have a relationship with the College with the Adventure Sports program at
SUNY Adirondack.
MR. ROSECRANS-SUNY Adirondack, yes.
MS. WHITE-And that will continue?
MR. ROSECRANS-Most definitely. I teach all the courses. They've got to come.
MRS. MOORE-The one thing you mentioned that you'd have a pathway into the site. Is there a
proposed bike rack?
MR. BRUNO-Yes.
MR. DEEB-Nice, cater to bicyclists, naturalists.
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MR. ROSECRANS-Parents are going to be psyched that their kids can ride bikes to it now,
because Quaker Road is not the greatest thing in the world.
MR. BRUNO-We have shown a somewhat minimal bike rack but as the need arises it will be
expanded.
MR. HUNSINGER-Any comments from the Board?
MS. WHITE-Will there be opportunities for other fitness things? I mean, just in this one briefly
you mentioned, you know, that they're starting to associate with yoga.
MR. BRUNO-There is like a yoga room in there at this point.
MR. DEEB-Are you going to have hot yoga?
MR. ROSECRANS-No. I like yoga. I don't like hot yoga.
MR. HUNSINGER-Any other questions from the Board? We do have a public hearing
scheduled. Anyone in the audience wish to address the Board on this project? There are
people left. Any written comments, Laura?
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
MRS. MOORE-There were no written comments.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. We'll open the public hearing and we will close the public hearing,
and let the record show no comments were received.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR. HUNSINGER-Anything else that we didn't talk about, and I'm not sure how we want to
leave the landscaping discussion.
MR. DEEB-If something would fit in there that Tom would like. I know he's got a vision of what
he wants. I know you said you'd like to have some landscaping.
MR. HUNSINGER-Like I said, I brought it up for discussion. I'm not sure how strongly I feel.
MR. DEEB-I'm sure the other buildings around there were made to have landscaping, too, for
approval.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, but he's also trying to project an image.
MR. DEEB-I know that. It's a natural image. I'm okay with it.
MR. HUNSINGER-1 can appreciate it as well.
MR. BRUNO-He may, after it's completed, developed, he may step back and look at it.
MR. DEEB-Look at it and say I need something here, here, and here.
MR. HUNSINGER-So I don't know if you're familiar with the Stewart's here on Bay Road. They
have some boulders at the edge of the parking area, and when they came in for a modification
we had asked them about that and they said, well, do you like them or not like them and we said
we like them. They kept them, but that might be a feature that you might want to consider.
MR. ROSECRANS-We have them outside our building, outside our entrance right now, but I'm
not moving them.
MR. HUNSINGER-So unless you uncover some, you're probably not going to have any
boulders.
MR. ROSECRANS-The lot's about this size, by the way.
MR. FERONE-It's all sand in that area. I don't think there's any rocks.
MR. HUNSINGER-So is the Board okay with what's been proposed?
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MR. DEEB-Yes, I'm excited.
MR. HUNSINGER-Do you have the SEQR resolution ready? This is a SEQR Unlisted action,
and the applicant submitted a Short Form. Are there any outstanding environmental concerns
that the Board has?
MR. DEEB-No.
MR. HUNSINGER-Go ahead.
RESOLUTION GRANTING A NEGATIVE SEQR DECLARATION SP PZ 88-2016
ROSECRANS
The applicant proposes to develop an existing vacant site with an 8,400 sq. ft. commercial
building with associated parking and infrastructure. Commercial building for rock sport climbing,
yoga, indoor recreation usage. Project includes installation of an on-site septic system.
Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040 of the Zoning Ordinance, new commercial development shall be
subject to Planning Board review and approval.
The Planning Board has determined that the proposed project and Planning Board action is
subject to review under the State Environmental Quality Review Act;
The proposed action considered by this Board is Unlisted in the Department of Environmental
Conservation Regulations implementing the State Environmental Quality Review Act and the
regulations of the Town of Queensbury;
No Federal or other agencies are involved;
Part 1 of the Short EAF has been completed by the applicant;
Upon review of the information recorded on this EAF, it is the conclusion of the Town of
Queensbury Planning Board as lead agency that this project will result in no significant adverse
impacts on the environment, and, therefore, an environmental impact statement need not be
prepared. Accordingly, this negative declaration is issued.
MOTION TO GRANT A NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR SITE PLAN PZ 88-2016 TRSB
ENTERPRISES, Introduced by Brad Magowan who moved for its adoption, seconded by
Stephen Traver;
As per the resolution prepared by staff.
1. Part II of the Short EAF has been reviewed and completed by the Planning Board.
2. Part III of the Short EAF is not necessary because the Planning Board did not identify
potentially moderate to large impacts.
Duly adopted this 22nd day of March, 2016, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Traver, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Magowan, Ms. White, Mr. Deeb, Mr. Hunsinger
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: Mr. Schonewolf
MR. HUNSINGER-Would anyone like to, we did have some engineering comments we didn't
ask you about, though. They mostly relate to your stormwater.
MR. BRUNO-I will address those. There's nothing there.
MR. HUNSINGER-Nothing stuck out. Okay. Would anyone like to make a motion?
RESOLUTION APPROVING SP PZ 88-2016 ROSECRANS & BEDDLE d/b/a TRSB
ENTERPRISES
The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board for Site Plan approval
pursuant to Article 9 of the Town zoning Ordinance for: Applicant proposes to develop an
existing vacant site with an 8,400 sq. ft. commercial building with associated parking and
infrastructure. Commercial building for rock sport climbing, yoga, indoor recreation usage.
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Project includes installation of an on-site septic system. Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040 of the
Zoning Ordinance, new commercial development shall be subject to Planning Board review and
approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-080, the
Planning Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the
Zoning Code;
As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to
the Warren County Planning Department for its recommendation;
The Planning Board has reviewed the potential environmental impacts of the project, pursuant
to the State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA) and adopted a SEQRA Negative
Declaration — Determination of Non-Significance
The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 3/22/2016, and
continued the public hearing to 3/22/2016, when it was closed,
The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all
comments made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 3/22/2016;
The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and
standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval,
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN PZ 88-2016 TRSB ENTERPRISES, Introduced by Brad
Magowan who moved for its adoption, seconded by Stephen Traver:
According to the draft resolution prepared by Staff with the following:
1) Waivers requested granted;
2. Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution.
a) The limits of clearing will constitute a no-cut buffer zone, orange construction
fencing shall be installed around these areas and field verified by Community
Development staff;
b) If applicable, the Sanitary Sewer connection plan must be submitted to the
Wastewater Department for its review, approval, permitting and inspection;
c) If curb cuts are being added or changed a driveway permit is required. A building
permit will not be issued until the approved driveway permit has been provided to the
Planning Office;
d) If application was referred to engineering then Engineering sign-off required prior to
signature of Zoning Administrator of the approved plans;
e) If required, the applicant must submit a copy of the following to the Town:
a. The project NOI (Notice of Intent) for coverage under the current "NYSDEC
SPDES General Permit from Construction Activity" prior to the start of any site
work.
b. The project NOT (Notice of Termination) upon completion of the project;
c. The applicant must maintain on their project site, for review by staff:
i. The approved final plans that have been stamped by the Town Zoning
Administrator. These plans must include the project SWPPP (Storm
Water Pollution Prevention Plan) when such a plan was prepared and
approved;
ii. The project NOI and proof of coverage under the current NYSDEC
SPDES General Permit, or an individual SPDES permit issued for the
project if required.
f) Final approved plans, in compliance with the Site Plan, must be submitted to the
Community Development Department before any further review by the Zoning
Administrator or Building and Codes personnel;
g) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of
Building Permit and/or the beginning of any site work;
h) Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on
compliance with this and all other conditions of this resolution;
i) As-built plans to certify that the site plan is developed according to the approved plans to
be provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy.
j) This resolution is to be placed in its entirety on the final plans
Duly adopted this 22nd day of March, 2016, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Traver, Mr. Hunsinger
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NOES: NONE
ABSENT: Mr. Schonewolf
SITE PLAN PZ 92-2016 SPECIAL USE PERMIT PZ 82-2016 SEAR TYPE UNLISTED RAY
& WENDY KRAFT OWNER(S) RAY & WENDY KRAFT ZONING WR LOCATION
PRIVATE RD. 1 OFF CLEVERDALE ROAD APPLICANT PROPOSES A SIX SLIP CLASS A
MARINA. APPLICANT PROPOSES NINE PARKING SPACES AT THIS TIME WITH
PORTABLE REFUSE UNITS, RESTROOM FACILITIES ARE AT EXISTING HOME AT 46
CLEVERDALE ROAD. PROJECT SUBJECT TO LAKE GEORGE PARK COMMISSION
REVIEW FOR CLASS A MARINA. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-10-160 OF THE ZONING
ORDINANCE, LOT ARRANGEMENT TO ACCOMMODATE MARINA USAGE SHALL BE
SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE N/A
WARREN C.O. REFERRAL MARCH 2016 APA, CEA, OTHER LOT SIZE 2.28 ACRES
TAX MAP NO. 240.9-1-16.12 SECTION 179-10-060
RAY &WENDY KRAFT, PRESENT
MR. HUNSINGER-Laura?
MRS. MOORE-Okay. The applicant proposes a six slip Class A Marina. The applicant
proposes nine parking spaces at this time with portable refuse containers. Restroom facilities
are at the existing home at 46 Cleverdale, and the project is subject to Lake George Park
Commission review for Class A Marinas, and at this time the Lake George Park Commission
has their application and it's under review and no different than this application being part of this
Board, both are being reviewed at the same time.
MR. HUNSINGER-Good evening.
MR. KRAFT-Hi. I'm Ray Kraft.
MRS. KRAFT-I'm Wendy Kraft.
MR. HUNSINGER-Do you want to tell us about your project?
MR. MAGOWAN-No cookies?
MRS. KRAFT-It's not Friday.
MR. MAGOWAN-That's right.
MR. KRAFT-We've got a lot on Cleverdale for sale and it's been on the market for seven years.
My mother used to rent docks there, and we just, when she died, we just didn't renew the
commercial permit she had on it. We figured it would sell quick. Well seven years later it
didn't. So we just decided to fix the docks up and rent them until we can get it sold. So that's
where we're at. I've talked to the guys over at the Park Commission and I'm on the schedule
for next month for the Marina permit and I'm waiting 15 days on the public notice part of it for the
neighbors on either side that may have any comment.
MR. HUNSINGER-So how far are you going to move those, the comment that you're going to
move the one dock away from the garage.
MR. KRAFT-That one is still going to, the grip part of it is still going to go right down the edge of
the rock, and the "H" used to go to the north. Now the "H" is going to go to the back.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay.
MR. KRAFT-And then the single finger is just going to go over right to the 20 foot setback on the
south side, just so I can get folks in here safely, and then as soon as it sells, it would be up to
the, you know, most people that are going to spend that kind of money on a piece of property,
it's a lot that's pre-approved by the Town for a 4,000 square foot house. So whoever buys the
lot and builds the house probably won't renew the marina permit on it anyway if they're going to
have it for private use. So it's just a matter of getting it sold and Davies has had it for seven
years.
MRS. KRAFT-And we're paying $12,000 a year taxes on that lot.
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MR. HUNSINGER-1 saw that in your application.
MR. KRAFT-So we're just trying to help the sale, that's all.
MR. FERONE-Sure. Are you going to clear off some of that area where those cars are going to
park that use the docks down there?
MR. KRAFT-Down there? No.
MR. FERONE-Just park there?
MR. KRAFT-Yes, there used to be a gravel path down there, but I'll have to clean it all up, but I
haven't bothered to do anything until I get approval from both agencies to do what I want to do.
MR. FERONE-And that's all it's going to be is a path down?
MR. KRAFT-Yes.
MR. FERONE-Because it seemed kind of steep, you know, going down.
MR. KRAFT-Well, depending on which way you go in, but I'll grade it off. Seeing as it's already
pre-approved for all that stuff, you know, it's what I have to do to make it easy to get down there.
I'll do that. One of the papers that was submitted for the Lake George Park Commission was
part of that pre-approval stuff that I went through for this. I probably went through this Board
and all the other ones. It took four years almost to get the approval on that, on all that.
MR. HUNSINGER-1 vaguely remember it.
MR. FERONE-Are you going to have like eight slips or something like that?
MR. KRAFT-Six.
MR. FERONE-Six. Okay.
MR. KRAFT-Yes.
MR. FERONE-Do you have a boat?
MR. KRAFT-I have a pontoon boat that I was out on it once last year. The kids go out more
than we do.
MRS. KRAFT-We work, all the time.
MR. DEEB-The kids don't.
MR. KRAFT-Well, when you borrow almost a million bucks to buy your sister out of the estate,
and you're paying four to six thousand a month on that because you can't sell this lot to pay it
off, it's tough, and I'm 65 years old. Everything's getting old, and I'd like to retire, or at least
slow down. So now is the point when you do everything you can do to kind of bring a little more
revenue to help pay the, you know. It's not you, but all this money is going to the Town of
Queensbury. It's the taxes and so you do everything you can do to, you know, we really don't
own the property. We lease it from.
MRS. KRAFT-The Town and County.
MR. KRAFT-So you do your best, and that's why we're back in here. We went seven years
thinking it would sell and didn't bother to rent the docks. Now we're at a point where we almost
have to. So are there any comments from anybody?
MR. FERONE-It's a nice piece of property. I don't know why it's not selling.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, it's a beautiful piece of property.
MR. KRAFT-I can't figure it out either.
MRS. KRAFT-The bank doesn't like to loan money on just property, when it's a million dollars.
So it's going to have to take somebody with deep pockets.
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MR. KRAFT-But most of those places up there are going for cash anyway.
MR. HUNSINGER-Well, I was going to say, how many houses do people buy and then knock
them down. I mean, with yours it's already cleared.
MRS. KRAFT-I know, and this is two and a quarter acres, too.
MR. KRAFT-It's cleared and pre-approved, and where do you find over two acres for a building
lot on Lake George.
MR. HUNSINGER-Right. Yes, you don't.
MR. KRAFT-So, there's where we're at. We want to put two boaters down there, and they're
just going to park on the grass. Like I said, there's no need to do really anything to it other than
what you have to do to make it safe for them to get down to the docks, and put the new docks
in, because whoever buys it is going to tear it up anyway and then the bathroom facilities, you
can walk across the street to the house and that's where they're going to.
MRS. KRAFT-Most of the boats that'll be there are going to be 30 footers. They all have their
own bathrooms.
MR. KRAFT-We have assigned slips between the Lake George Boat Company and the Yard
Arm.
MRS. KRAFT-For pump out.
MR. KRAFT-Yes.
MR. FERONE-And you said your neighbors are going to be okay on either side there?
MR. KRAFT-On my north is my cousin and I've never even talked to the guy that just bought the
place on the south.
MR. FERONE-That seems to be the farthest away, though.
MRS. KRAFT-We don't rent to kids. All of our people are our age or maybe 10 years younger,
but there's no teens. There's no kids. So it's a nice group of people.
MR. MAGOWAN-Well, after a 30 foot boat and dock rental, there aren't too many kids
nowadays that can afford that.
MRS. KRAFT-No, and you know we're finding more and more that the adults don't let their
teenage kids come on up and use the boat because it's too big an investment. So once upon a
time we had to worry about that, but not anymore.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. Any other comments or concerns?
MR. FERONE-It seems pretty straightforward.
MR. HUNSINGER-We have a public hearing scheduled. There's no one left in the audience.
Were there any written comments, Laura?
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
MRS. MOORE-There are no written comments.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. We'll open the public hearing and close the public hearing and let the
record show no comments were received.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR. HUNSINGER-This is an Unlisted action. They did submit the Short Form. Are there any, I
mean, it is a Critical Environmental Area, but are there any specific environmental concerns that
the Board may have? There is a draft SEQR resolution in the packet if anyone would like to
move that.
RESOLUTION GRANTING A NEGATIVE SEQR DECLARATION PZ 92-2016 & SUP 82-2016
KRAFT
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The applicant proposes a six slip Class A marina. Applicant proposes nine parking spaces at
this time with portable refuse units, restroom facilities are at existing home at 46 Cleverdale
Road. Project subject to Lake George Park Commission review for Class A marina. Pursuant
to Chapter 179-10-060 of the Zoning Ordinance, lot arrangement to accommodate marina
usage shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval.
The Planning Board has determined that the proposed project and Planning Board action is
subject to review under the State Environmental Quality Review Act;
The proposed action considered by this Board is Unlisted in the Department of Environmental
Conservation Regulations implementing the State Environmental Quality Review Act and the
regulations of the Town of Queensbury;
No Federal or other agencies are involved;
Part 1 of the Short EAF has been completed by the applicant;
Upon review of the information recorded on this EAF, it is the conclusion of the Town of
Queensbury Planning Board as lead agency that this project will result in no significant adverse
impacts on the environment, and, therefore, an environmental impact statement need not be
prepared. Accordingly, this negative declaration is issued.
MOTION TO GRANT A NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR SITE PLAN PZ 92-2016 & SPECIAL
USE PERMIT PZ 82-2016 RAY & WENDY KRAFT, Introduced by Brad Magowan who moved
for its adoption, seconded by Stephen Traver;
As per the resolution prepared by staff.
1. Part II of the Short EAF has been reviewed and completed by the Planning Board.
2. Part III of the Short EAF is not necessary because the Planning Board did not identify
potentially moderate to large impacts.
Duly adopted this 22nd day of March, 2016 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Traver, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Magowan, Ms. White, Mr. Deeb, Mr. Hunsinger
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: Mr. Schonewolf
MR. KRAFT-You asked me about the two neighbors. I would assume that they would, I know
my cousin got a notice from the Board, and she called me, she's in her 80's, and she saw two
refuse things and said what are they for, dumping the toilet things in it? So I had to explain the
whole thing to her. So, I mean, and she said I'll just sign the thing and send it back. So I would
assume the other neighbor got one, too.
MRS. MOORE-They did.
MR. KRAFT-So if anybody had any problems, they would have said so.
MR. DEEB-They would have written a letter.
MR. HUNSINGER-Anyone within 500 feet gets a notice. Go ahead, we're ready.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SP PZ 92-2016 SUP 82-2016 RAY &WENDY KRAFT
The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board for Site Plan approval
pursuant to Article 9 of the Town zoning Ordinance for: Applicant proposes a six slip Class A
marina. Applicant proposes nine parking spaces at this time with portable refuse units,
restroom facilities are at existing home at 46 Cleverdale Road. Project subject to Lake George
Park Commission review for Class A marina. Pursuant to Chapter 179-10-060 of the Zoning
Ordinance, lot arrangement to accommodate marina usage shall be subject to Planning Board
review and approval.
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Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-080, the
Planning Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the
Zoning Code;
As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to
the Warren County Planning Department for its recommendation;
The Planning Board has reviewed the potential environmental impacts of the project, pursuant
to the State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA) and adopted a SEQRA Negative
Declaration — Determination of Non-Significance
The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 3/22/2016, and
continued the public hearing to 3/22/2016, when it was closed,
The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all
comments made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 3/22/2016;
The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and
standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval,
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN PZ 92-2016 & SPECIAL USE PERMIT PZ 82-2016 RAY
& WENDY KRAFT; Introduced by Brad Magowan who moved for its adoption, seconded by
David Deeb:
Per the draft provided by staff conditioned upon the following conditions:
1) Waivers request rg anted:
2 Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution.
a) Final approved plans, in compliance with the Site Plan, must be submitted to the
Community Development Department before any further review by the Zoning
Administrator or Building and Codes personnel;
b) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of
Building Permit and/or the beginning of any site work;
c) Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on
compliance with this and all other conditions of this resolution;
d) Resolution to be placed on final plans in its entirety and legible.
Duly adopted this 22nd day of March, 2016, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Traver, Mr. Hunsinger
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: Mr. Schonewolf
MR. HUNSINGER-You're all set.
MR. DEEB-There, now you're done.
MR. FERONE-You realize now that you have this done, now somebody's going to want to buy
that property.
MRS. KRAFT-From your lips.
MR. HUNSINGER-Good luck.
MRS. KRAFT-Thank you very much.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, you're welcome. Is there any other business to be brought before the
Board?
MRS. MOORE-No, there's not. Can you just, the Board notify Staff who is going to be here in
April? Because there's two meetings coming in.
MR. HUNSINGER-Is there anyone here that won't be here in April?
MR. TRAVER-No, I'll be here.
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MR. MAGOWAN-I'm planning on being here.
MR. HUNSINGER-So the question, I think Tom's going to be back, but I'm not positive.
MRS. MOORE-As far as I know, he'll be back.
MR. HUNSINGER-But I think, was Paul going to be out in April orjust March?
MRS. MOORE-And that's what I don't know. So I'm trying to follow up. Okay.
MR. DEEB-I'll make a motion to adjourn.
MR. HUNSINGER-Thanks, everyone.
On motion meeting was adjourned.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Chris Hunsinger, Chairman
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