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QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING
FIRST REGULAR MEETING
FEBRUARY 14, 2017
INDEX
Site Plan 6-2017 Stephen & Caryn LeFleche
1.
ZBA RECOMMENDATION Tax Map No. 227.17-1-29
Subdivision Preliminary Stage 2-2017 Mary Sotanski
4.
Final Stage 3-2017 Tax Map No. 290.10-1-6
ZBA RECOMMENDATION
Site Plan 12-2017 New Cingular Wireless PCS, LLC 7.
ZBA RECOMMENDATION Tax Map No. 279.-1-48
Site Plan 9-2017 Ronald & Cynthia Mackowiak
11.
ZBA RECOMMENDATION Tax Map No. 289.11-1-33
Subdivision Preliminary Stage 4-2017 Steve Scoville
14.
Final Stage 5-2017 Tax Map No. 302.8-2-66.1
Site Plan 11-2017 Steve Scoville
22.
Special Use Permit 2-2017 Tax Map No. 302.8-2-66.1
Freshwater Wetlands Permit 1-2017
Site Plan 8-2017 Primelink, Inc.
27.
Tax Map No. 302.11-1-2
THESE ARE NOT OFFICIALLY ADOPTED MINUTES AND ARE SUBJECT TO BOARD AND
STAFF REVISIONS. REVISIONS WILL APPEAR ON THE FOLLOWING MONTHS MINUTES
(IF ANY) AND WILL STATE SUCH APPROVAL OF SAID MINUTES.
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QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING
FIRST REGULAR MEETING
FEBRUARY 14, 2017
7:00 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT
STEPHEN TRAVER, CHAIRMAN
CHRIS HUNSINGER, VICE CHAIRMAN
GEORGE FERONE, SECRETARY
DAVID DEEB
BRAD MAGOWAN
JAMIE WHITE
JOHN SHAFER, ALTERNATE
LAND USE PLANNER-LAURA MOORE
MR. TRAVER-Good evening, everybody. Welcome to the Town of Queensbury Planning
Board meeting. This is the first meeting of two for the month of February and the third for 2017.
There should be some agendas on the table in the back of the room if you would like one.
There are three items we're going to be reviewing tonight that do have a public hearing, and we
have some Planning Board recommendations to the Zoning Board to make and we have an
Administrative Item to begin which is approval of minutes.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
December 20, 2016
December 22, 2016
MOTION TO APPROVE THE QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES OF
DECEMBER 20TH AND DECEMBER 22ND, 2016, Introduced by Chris Hunsinger who moved for
its adoption, seconded by George Ferone:
Duly adopted this 14th day of February, 2017, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Deeb, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
ABSTAINED: Ms. White
MR. TRAVER-All right. Our first item on the agenda this evening is a Recommendation
request for the ZBA for Stephen and Caryn LaFleche, Site Plan 6-2017.
PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
SITE PLAN NO. 6-2017 SEAR TYPE TYPE II STEPHEN & CARYN LA FLECHE
AGENT(S) DENNIS MAC ELROY OWNER(S) SAME AS APPLICANT ZONING WR
LOCATION 12 WATERS EDGE DRIVE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO RENOVATE THE
SECOND FLOOR OF AN EXISTING HOME. FLOOR AREA EXISTING ON SECOND FLOOR
IS 474 SQ. FT. AND EXISTING GARAGE STORAGE IS 232 SQ. FT. PROPOSED SECOND
FLOOR WITH ADDITION (36 +/- FT. X 5 +/- FT.) IS 697 SQ. FT. WITH REMOVAL OF FLOOR
AREA STORAGE ABOVE GARAGE. THE 2ND FLOOR ADDITION ALLOWS FOR 2ND
FLOOR BEDROOM EXPANSION AND 1ST FLOOR BEDROOM EXPANSION — TOTAL 3
BEDROOMS. PROJECT INCLUDES SITE WORK TO INSTALL PERMEABLE PAVERS.
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 17-13-010 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, EXPANSION OF
NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURES SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW
AND APPROVAL. VARIANCE: RELIEF IS SOUGHT FROM SETBACKS. PLANNING
BOARD SHALL PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS.
CROSS REFERENCE AV 11-2017 WARREN CO. REFERRAL FEBRUARY 2017 SITE
INFORMATION APA, LGPC, CEA LOT SIZE .19 ACRE TAX MAP NO. 227.17-1-29
SECTION 179-13-010
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DENNIS MAC ELROY, REPRESENTING APPLICANT, PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-Laura, do you want to give us the briefing?
MRS. MOORE-Sure. So this project involves renovation of a second floor of an existing home.
The existing second floor is 474 square feet, and there is an existing storage area over the
garage which counts towards their floor area of 232 square feet. The renovation actually takes
that storage area out and moves it towards living space for the second floor. So the final
square footage for the floor area on the second floor is 697 square feet, and what this does is
allows the addition, for a second floor bedroom expansion and a bit of first floor bedroom
expansion, the total of bedrooms on the site, or the house, rather, is three bedroom, that
remains the same.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. Good evening.
MR. MAC ELROY-Good evening. I'm Dennis Mac Elroy with Environmental Design
representing Stephen and Caryn LaFleche for this application for a variance. We're here for the
referral to the ZBA. As Laura indicated, it's a Waterfront Residential parcel off of Waters Edge
Drive which is off of Seelye Road. Rockhurst, Cleverdale area. Small lot, about 8200 square
feet total, and so it's a lawful nonconforming structure, based on setbacks, shoreline setback
and a sideline setback. What the applicant would like is to expand the second story, and as
you see in the photo, it's a dormer or an expansion of those dormers to basically full width of the
exposure of that house in that area. It doesn't increase the footprint at all and it re-allocates
living area in that structure to that second floor area. Along with this will be, regarding site
issues, there'll be, we've already received an approval from the Board of Health for a holding
tank system for the wastewater. So that's felt to be an improvement to the area. We'll remove
what is probably a marginal wastewater system in that area and convert that to a holding tank.
There'll be a decrease in the impervious area based on some conversions, walkways to
permeable block pavers. So there's a couple of side benefits to this project aside from the
expansion. It still requires a variance. It requires a variance because it's an expansion of the
lawful nonconforming structure.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. So as you point out it's not an increase in the footprint. It's sort of an
increase in the elevation because you're building on to the same.
MR. MAC ELROY-Right.
MR. TRAVER-And you're making some environmental improvements with septic and that
impervious area. Anything else?
MR. MAC ELROY-That should cover it.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Questions from members of the Board for the applicant?
MR. HUNSINGER-Are you doing anything to capture roof runoff?
MR. MAC ELROY-Actually in a previous project that this owner had undertaken several years
ago, they did a number of issues, a number of items, improvements related to the drainage in
that area. So it's not associated with this project, but I think they feel that they've done a
number of drainage items that would help retain that stormwater or that runoff from the
residence itself. It's in a somewhat low-lying area.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, I was going to say, it's pretty low.
MR. MAC ELROY-So they had to, when these owners took over, took ownership of the
property, that's one of the first things that they had done. I wasn't involved with that project but
I think Tom Jarrett did some work related to that.
MR. FERONE-Going on the same line as Chris's question, Staff Notes indicated that lawn
area's going to be disturbed and there's going to be some supplemental plantings installed, but
there wasn't any information on what or how much.
MR. MAC ELROY-Yes. It's not, there may have been reference to that. I guess I must have
said that myself but there wasn't anything that was being proposed as part of the site plan
application because there really wasn't, the disturbance would have taken place is work around
the exterior of the structure. So there'd be equipment on that. So that will be restored into
grass vegetation.
MR. FERONE-Just minimal. It's not extensive.
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MR. MAC ELROY-Correct.
MR. SHAFER-Dennis, this is just to the north of the big house that's under construction?
MR. MAC ELROY-Right. Correct.
MR. HUNSINGER-You've got to keep up with the neighbors.
MR. TRAVER-Yes. See the County Planning Board has basically referred it back to us. So
are there any, I'm not hearing anymore questions for the applicant. Are Board members
feeling there are any concerns with the application as it exists? Obviously if it gets through the
ZBA it will be coming back for site plan. Are there any things that are of concern at this stage
that we'd want to point out?
MR. FERONE-Well, the setback is existing, right? It's not like they're expanding the building.
MR. TRAVER-Yes, it's a pre-existing nonconforming structure. They're not exacerbating it.
It's a small lot. There's a lot of those that we deal with. There's not much they can do with it
really. I was glad to see the environmental improvements to the area.
MR. MAGOWAN-They're not really increasing the size of the roof. They're just lifting it up and
changing the direction of the water really.
MR. TRAVER-Right. Yes, and even the overall, the total height isn't going up either.
MR. MAC ELROY-Correct, and regarding the setbacks, it's shoreline setback and the setback to
the westerly side. The existing setback is 19.6, and this new addition is 29.5. So while it
doesn't meet the 50 foot shoreline setback, it's not any closer, in fact it's 10 feet farther away,
and the same thing goes on the side setback.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Well, I'm not hearing any concerns that we want to point out, so I think we
can make a motion, then, on behalf of the Planning Board. There's no public hearing for a
recommendation. There would be when they come back.
MR. FERONE-All right.
RESOLUTION RE: ZBA RECOMMENDATION RE: Z-AV-11-2017 LA FLECHE
The applicant has submitted an application for the following: Applicant proposes to renovate the
second floor of an existing home. Floor area existing on second floor is 474 sq. ft. and existing
garage storage is 232 sq. ft. Proposed second floor with addition (36 +/-ft. x 5 +/- ft.) is 697 sq.
ft. with removal of floor area storage above garage. The 2nd floor addition allows for 2nd floor
bedroom expansion and 1st floor bedroom expansion — total 3 bedrooms. Project includes site
work to install permeable pavers. Pursuant to Chapter 179-13-010 of the Zoning Ordinance,
expansion of non-conforming structures shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval.
Variance: Relief is sought from setbacks. Planning Board shall provide a recommendation to
the Zoning Board of Appeals.
The Town of Queensbury Zoning Ordinance, per Section 179-9-070 J 2 b. requires the Planning
Board to provide a written recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals for projects that
require both Zoning Board of Appeals & Planning Board approval;
The Planning Board has briefly reviewed and discussed this application, the relief request in the
variance application as well as the potential impacts of this project on the neighborhood and
surrounding community, and found that:
MOTION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON BEHALF OF THE PLANNING BOARD TO
THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FOR AREA VARIANCE NO. 11-2017 STEPHEN &
CARYN LAFLECHE: Introduced by Mr. Ferone who moved its adoption,
The Planning Board, based on a limited review, has not identified any significant adverse
impacts that cannot be mitigated with current project proposal;
Motion seconded by Mr. Magowan;
Duly adopted 14th day of February 2017, by the following vote:
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MR. TRAVER-All right. We have a motion that's been made and seconded. Are there any
comments or concerns prior to the vote on the motion? I'm not hearing any. Can we have the
vote, please?
AYES: Mr. Deeb, Mrs. White, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-All right. You're off to the ZBA.
MR. MAC ELROY-Thank you very much. See you next week, I hope.
MR. TRAVER-All right. Our next application is Mary Sotanski.
SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY STAGE 2017 SUBDIVISION FINAL STAGE 3-2017 SEAR
TYPE UNLISTED MARY SOTANSKI OWNER(S) MARY & THOMAS SOTANSKI
ZONING RR-3A LOCATION 21 HILAND DRIVE APPLICANT PROPOSES A TWO LOT
SUBDIVISION OF A 4.93 ACRE PARCEL. ONE LOT TO BE 3 ACRES, HAS AN EXISTING
HOME AND TO BE RETAINED BY OWNER. THE SECOND LOT IS PROPOSED TO BE
1.93 ACRE VACANT LOT FOR SALE. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 183 OF THE ZONING
ORDINANCE, SUBDIVISION OF LAND SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD
REVIEW AND APPROVAL. VARIANCE: RELIEF IS SOUGHT FOR LOT SIZE. PLANNING
BOARD SHALL PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS.
CROSS REFERENCE 2004-64 756 SF ADDITION; AV 10-2017 LOT SIZE 4.93 ACRES
TAX MAP NO. 290.10-1-6 SECTION CHAPTER 183
KRISTIN DARRAH, REPRESENTING APPLICANT, PRESENT; MARY SOTANSKI, PRESENT
MRS. MOORE-So the applicant proposes a two lot subdivision of a 4.93 acre parcel. One lot is
to be three acres and has an existing home to be retained by the owner. The second lot is
proposed to be a 1.93 acre vacant lot for sale. The request for variance relief is for the lot size
itself, and the information in the packet shows a building that would be proposed on the site
could meet the potential setbacks, in addition to installing a septic and well. The applicant, in
reference to the subdivision application materials, is going to request a waiver from showing
septic, well, and house location, as part of the application, which we have seen in the past for
regular subdivisions.
MS. WHITE-I just had a quick question. I see a reference to two different lot sizes.
MRS. MOORE-Yes, and I apologize. I may have, but I'll find it again.
MR. TRAVER-Good evening.
MS. DARRAH-Good evening. My name is Kristin Darrah. I'm actually Ms. Sotakski's land
surveyor. She asked me to represent here. I have the agent form here which I can give you.
MRS. MOORE-Yes, you can hand it to me. Thanks.
MR. TRAVER-Would you like to tell us about your project?
MS. SOTANSKI-Well, my project is to subdivide off a portion of my property because it's larger
than what I can take care of by myself anymore. The property's in Queensbury. This property
has been on the market since, well, my husband and I started in 2012, and we found out he had
a terminal illness, and I have had maybe two people, maybe four people come to see the
property in the past four years, and it's very difficult for me to sell the property. Now that my
husband's passed away it's hard for me to take care of all that property, and I try to be a good
steward for the land, and it's just difficult for me. Initially I started, we thought that we were
going to be able to subdivide the property, two acre, to two acre parcels, but because of the
subdivision, or the zone variance change, it was better for me to keep the three acre zoning and
then carve off that first, I thought it was 1.93 acres because on my deed it says I have 4.93
acres, but when they came through, Kristin came through and did the survey, I found out I don't
have 4.93 acres. I have 4.87, and I don't know, I'm at your mercy to help me figure out what to
do.
MS. DARRAH-Basically what we're looking to do is, to alleviate the burden for my client, is to
split off a building lot, essentially, to make her house more marketable. It's been on the market,
like she said, for quite a while, but, you know, there's been a change in the minimum acreage
requirement since she's owned the property. So she wants to maintain the three acres with the
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existing house and she's looking for, really from the area requirement for the other lot if
possible.
MR. TRAVER-So the plan, at this point, is not to put a house on the other lot but rather to sell
the existing house and the three acres and also sell the separate piece as a separate building
lot. I see.
MS. SOTANSKI-And then in all good conscience, and trying to be a good steward for the land, I
have approached my neighbors, John and Diane Swanson, and I have let them know that,
because they have the one subdivision property that came from the Case Prime property, that
long meadow area, that if they would like to purchase the property at fair market value they
would have first refusal for the land, because, you know, if they would like to keep the land the
way it is, you know, I would like to respect that, and I respect the land as much as I can. Also
when the Town came through and National Grid came through, everybody came through and
they took down all the trees, after they came through I went and did a survey, visual survey of
the land, and all along that roadway I had somebody come in and take down everything that
was either dead or if it was dead and going to fall down on those wires, because I want to be a
good neighbor, I had all those trees taken down and trying to cut up the trees and move them
out and, you know, make the land acceptable, and also protect it from my neighbors.
MR. HUNSINGER-So the new lot to be created, is that, Laura had made the comment about it
being buildable, because I know there's some wet areas over in there, and you can't see with
the snow cover. There isn't any wetlands on that property, is there?
MS. DARRAH-Not that we're aware of.
MS. SOTANSKI-No, there's none that I know of.
MS. DARRAH-I believe Craig Brown had worked with Pam Whiting who helped Ms. Sotanski fill
out the application, and what they had looked at was how much land was left, that they maintain
a 100 foot setback from each side. I believe there was a sketch that was submitted with the
application that shows the buildable area left and essentially, the feeling was that there's
enough land, enough space in the center of this lot to maintain 100 feet from each side, that you
could put a house and a septic system in there.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
MR. HUNSINGER-The other question that I had was, usually with a, especially with a
subdivision, we get a larger map that shows the size lots in the immediate neighborhood, and
we didn't get that information. When you drive around it appears that most of the lots on your
street and also on the perpendicular street are much smaller than three acres.
MS. DARRAH-The tax map, on the other side of Hiland Drive, directly across from Mary Jane's
property, the two lots directly across from here are both two acres.
MS. SOTANSKI-And then down Rockwell Road there's a red house, is it a barn, and that's 1.5
acres. Down a little bit further, I think it's Brookwood, the street there, those are one acre
properties in there, and I know down at the very foot of Rockwell Road where they have the
Overlook, the condos.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, those are small.
MS. SOTANSKI-Those are all small. So, I mean, it's within keeping of what is in that area to
begin with, and I'm not asking to reduce it any more than I absolutely have to. I want to keep
as much, that's why I said initially I wanted to do two acres and two acres, but to keep as much
in common with the rest of the area as possible, but because of the zoning and the zone.
MR. SHAFER-You bought the property in '94 I believe?
MS. SOTANSKI-Yes.
MR. SHAFER-And you had mentioned that the zoning had changed between then and now.
MS. SOTANSKI-Yes.
MR. SHAFER-Can you tell me what it was before?
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MS. SOTANSKI-It was two acre. Actually it was one acre zoning, and then it went to two acre
zoning. I don't know at what point in time it went to two acre zoning. I know we put an addition
on our house in 2005, and that's when Case Prime did his subdivision, and when he did his
subdivision, he had the one meadow area on Rockwell with five acres. His property that he
owned, the house that John and Diane Swanson, or Bowers living in, they have the five acres
and there's two, 2 acre parcels and then John, Joan and Fred McGrath have a five acre parcel,
and then the two acre parcel belongs to Joe Delahoyt, and then the other two acre parcel
belongs to Robin and Ervin. They're on either side of Summit Lane.
MR. SHAFER-Do we know when it changed to three? Does anybody know when it changed to
three?
MS. SOTANSKI-It changed to three about, well my husband passed away in 2015 and I believe
it happened in 2014. It could have been 2015.
MRS. MOORE-That sounds right. I'd have to look it up, and I don't know off the top of my head
without reviewing that.
MS. SOTANSKI-No, I know that they came before the Board for the zoning because a woman
on Ridge Road, her sister had passed away and she had a horse and they needed three acres
to have a horse and they changed the zoning at that time. The whole Town, that whole area
prior to that it had been two.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. All right. So the 1.7 acres for the second lot does require a variance, but
it is not out of keeping with the character of the neighborhood, basically is what we're looking at.
MS. SOTANSKI-Yes, sir.
MR. TRAVER-Are there any other questions for the applicant before we make a
recommendation? Okay. I think we're ready for a motion, Mr. Secretary.
RESOLUTION RE: ZBA RECOMMENDATION RE: Z-AV-10-2017 MARY SOTANSKI
The applicant has submitted an application for the following: Applicant proposes a two lot
subdivision of a 4.93 acre parcel. One lot to be 3 acres, has an existing home and to be retained
by owner. The second lot is proposed to be 1.93 acre vacant lot for sale. Pursuant to Chapter
183 of the Zoning Ordinance, subdivision of land shall be subject to Planning Board review and
approval. Variance: Relief is sought for lot size. Planning Board shall provide a
recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals.
The Town of Queensbury Zoning Ordinance, per Section 179-9-070 J 2 b. requires the Planning
Board to provide a written recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals for projects that
require both Zoning Board of Appeals & Planning Board approval;
The Planning Board has briefly reviewed and discussed this application, the relief request in the
variance application as well as the potential impacts of this project on the neighborhood and
surrounding community, and found that:
MOTION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON BEHALF OF THE PLANNING BOARD TO
THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FOR AREA VARIANCE NO. 10-2017 MARY
SOTANSKI: Introduced by Mr. Ferone who moved its adoption, and
The Planning Board, based on a limited review, has not identified any significant adverse
impacts that cannot be mitigated with current project proposal;
Motion seconded by Mr. Magowan
Duly adopted this 14th day of February, 2017 by the following vote:
MR. TRAVER-We have a motion that's been seconded. Any discussion?
MS. WHITE-Yes. Do we need to change that to 4.87 in this document?
MRS. MOORE-Yes. So it's 4.87
MR. TRAVER-So the resolution?
MS. WHITE-References the 4.9.
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MR. TRAVER-You're right. Okay.
MS. SOTANSKI-Yes. I don't know what happened because my deed all says I have 4.93, but
when the survey came through, I think it's new technology. They can do things better.
MR. TRAVER-Yes. Well, that's all right. If you've ever been to Gore Mountain Ski Center, that
whole mountain was not on the map. That's what a gore is. That's how it got its name. So
they named it Gore Mountain Ski Center. It's not on the map, and there it was.
MR. FERONE-I'll amend the motion.
MR. TRAVER-Yes.
MR. FERONE-The motion is to be amended that this is a 4.93, I'm sorry, 4.87 acre parcel to be
separated into two lots, one 3 acres and one 1.87 acres.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. We have an amended motion.
MR. MAGOWAN-Second.
MR. TRAVER-We have an amended motion that's been made and seconded. Any other
questions or concerns?
MRS. MOORE-Did you select A?
MR. FERONE-Yes.
MRS. MOORE-Thank you.
MR. FERONE-1 read it. I didn't select it.
MRS. MOORE-Okay.
AYES: Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Traver, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Hunsinger
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-All right. You're off to the ZBA.
MS. SOTANSKI-Thank you very, very much.
MR. TRAVER-Yes, you're welcome. Good luck.
MS. SOTANSKI-I appreciate it.
MR. TRAVER-The next application we have is also a recommendation referral for the ZBA
which is New Cingular Wireless.
MRS. MOORE-Yes.
SITE PLAN 12-2017 SEAR TYPE UNLISTED NEW CINGULAR WIRELESS PCS, LLC
AGENT(S) CENTERLINE COMMUNICATIONS; PHILLIPS LYTLE, LLP OWNER(S)
KUBRICKY CONSTRUCTION CORP. ZONING MDR LOCATION 1359 RIDGE ROAD
APPLICANT PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT A TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITY - 130'
MONOPOLE WITH 9 ANTENNAS, ASSOCIATED EQUIPMENT SHELTER AND PAD ALL
WITHIN A FENCED AREA. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-5 & 179-9 OF THE ZONING
ORDINANCE TELECOMMUNICATION TOWERS SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING
BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. VARIANCE: USE VARIANCE REQUIRED AS
TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITIES ARE NOT ALLOWED IN AN MDR ZONE.
PLANNING BOARD SHALL PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF
APPEALS. CROSS REFERENCE SP 55-2015, UV 57-2015 WARREN CO. REFERRAL
FEBRUARY 2017 SITE INFORMATION APA LOT SIZE 9.38 ACRES (PORTION OF)
TAX MAP NO. 279.1-48 SECTION 179-5, 179-9
TOM PUCHNER, REPRESENTING APPLICANT, PRESENT
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MRS. MOORE-The applicant proposes to construct a telecommunications facility. This is a 130
foot monopole with nine antennas. And this project, as part of this project you had originally
seen this project in 2015. Their approvals have expired and therefore they need to come back
to the Board in reference to the Use Variance and the Site Plan. So that's why the applicant's
back before us.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. I understand there also were some minor changes.
There were, yes, it's actually Groundhog Day. It's not Valentine's Day.
MR. TRAVER-I'm sorry. Would you state your name for the record.
TOM PUCHNER
MR. PUCHNER-Tom Puchner, Phillips Lytle law firm for AT&T, also known as New Cingular
Wireless PCS.
MR. TRAVER-Thank you.
MR. PUCHNER-At the time that this had originally been proposed and approved by the
Planning Board for Site Plan and the ZBA for a Use Variance it was proposed as just a
monopole tower which is just a single pole, not lattice, not guide, and when it went back to the
APA, the process is local approvals first, APA second. They want you to go first. They found it
was visible from one location in the marsh with plain sight. You can barely make out the
balloon, but they wanted it to be a mono pine, which is the top couple of feet of the tower is
disguised to look like a tree.
MR. TRAVER-Just the top couple of feet?
MR. PUCHNER-Just the top section. The part that would be visible from the water.
MR. TRAVER-And this would be, what, in the Dunham's Bay swamp?
MR. PUCHNER-Dunham's Bay marsh. We canoed out to the marsh with cameras and took
visual impact data from there, and as a result, the APA, they have their standard which is
substantially invisible. They wanted it to look like a tree from the ridge line. So that was re-
designed after the approval. That took some time, and then fortunately, subsequent to the APA
approval, Town's approval, the DEC approval because it is a working gravel pit, to allow the
tower to locate, the approval expired. So here we are.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
MR. MAGOWAN-You didn't threaten to turn off any of their cell phone service>
MR. TRAVER-Other than adding the few feet of pine at the top, are there any other changes to
the antenna that were required? I mean, was the additional wind loading requiring you to do
anything?
MR. PUCHNER-No, no changes to that. In fact it's a 130 foot tower as was originally proposed
to have a hard top, for the FAA.
MR. TRAVER-Well, you could light it.
MR. PUCHNER-Well, yes. Not something we wanted to do.
MR. TRAVER-We wouldn't like that either.
MR. PUCHNER-So in order to do the camouflage that requires typically five feet to make it have
the ground effect of the tree. So we had to reduce, because of that 130, we had to reduce
everything by five feet. The original proposal was 130 feet, with the antenna center lines, 126.
So you drop everything five feet. So the antennas are now at a center line of 121, and then the
tower effect of the tree will be 130. That's the only change.
MR. TRAVER-All right. Thank you.
MR. DEEB-Are we first again before the other? Do you have to go back for approval?
MR. PUCHNER-To the APA? No. It's done with the APA.
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MR. DEEB-All right. So then this will be it for you.
MR. PUCHNER-Yes. APA is done. Their process doesn't expire. Well, it can, I think you
have to wait 40 years or something, but it's been recorded. It's a done deal.
MR. DEEB-Okay.
MR. HUNSINGER-So if they stipulate the design, do they stipulate the color of the design as
well?
MR. PUCHNER-I believe that there are, they want it to be non-reflective, mat paint. There may
be a condition black. I'd have to check the APA permit. It's very specific, and again, whatever
it is what it has to be done.
MR. TRAVER-I would think it would be pine green.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, that's what I would think.
MR. PUCHNER-Well, for the tree portion, yes, but the antennas have to be disguised.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
MS. WHITE-The Franken pine section.
MR. MAGOWAN-What happens once you get it up there and everything and a birdwatcher sees
it from his canoe back there in the swamp, very difficult to get back into.
MR. PUCHNER-It goes about a mile into the swamp. Nothing I can do about that. They'll
have good cell service.
MR. TRAVER-Yes.
MR. HUNSINGER-So will the tower itself be painted the same color?
MR. PUCHNER-In terms of the pole?
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes.
MR. PUCHNER-I would have to check the conditions on that. That is a detail that I don't have
with me. I could have it next week when we're back here.
MR. MAGOWAN-You know, like the last five feet that you're going to change to a treetop. So I
imagine you're going to have.
MR. MAGOWAN-I have to say, this was quite a presentation.
MS. WHITE-Because I was thinking it was more than just a couple of feet.
MR. TRAVER-Yes. Like a regular Franken pine.
MR. SHAFER-Is it 30 feet?
MR. HUNSINGER-It's 110 to, well, it's 20 feet.
MR. SHAFER-Chris, what's the drawing number?
MR. HUNSINGER-Drawing T-1A. It's in this fold out.
MR. TRAVER-All right, and no changes to the footing or the structure at the base of the
antenna? That's all as it was in the original proposal?
MR. PUCHNER-Everything is the same. So in terms of the impacts today, theoretically it was
approved a little over a year ago has a tower with very little visibility. Now it's invisible at least
as far as the APA is concerned, with the camouflage.
MR. TRAVER-Right, and just one follow up question. When you get the approvals, how long
before it comes on line roughly?
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MR. PUCHNER-It should be on line in 2017. That's the plan.
MR. TRAVER-1 see. All right.
MR. MAGOWAN-1 could use the increase there at my house.
MR. HUNSINGER-1 was going to say, this is one of those times when you miss Paul because
Paul used to always talk about the dead spot between Fort Ann and Queensbury for the
emergency services.
MR. TRAVER-Yes. Well, I think part of the rationale was for emergency services, right, on 149.
So that's going to be a big help there.
MR. HUNSINGER-That's what this covers.
MR. TRAVER-So. All right. Any other questions or concerns by members of the Board prior to
making a recommendation?
MR. SHAFER-One question. Some time ago we had a proposal by Fort Miller, and they were
going to use this Kubricky pit as an access point. Is there any conflict between your proposal
and what they had been proposing?
MR. PUCHNER-1 don't believe so. This is done with Kubricky's permission. So anything that
would get in the way of anything else they had going on, they wouldn't allow us to do it. I'm not
aware, I remember hearing about that, but I'm not aware of there being an issue. If you go to
the site plan, it's tucked away over on the side. This is not, it's my understanding it's not taking
the gravel pit out of commission in any way. It's still going to be operational.
MR. TRAVER-Yes, it's not a big footprint.
MR. MAGOWAN-To answer that, John, all that Fort Miller wanted was for access to the gate,
and that was it. This pit is large enough that, and it's tucked away there. And now it's going
to look like a pine tree that blends right in.
MR. TRAVER-At least from the mile into the swamp. Okay. Any other questions for the
applicant? Then I guess we're ready for a motion then.
RESOLUTION RE: ZBA RECOMMENDATION RE: Z-UV-1-2017 NEW CINGULAR
WIRELESS
The applicant has submitted an application for the following: Applicant proposes to construct a
telecommunications facility - 130' monopole with 9 antennas, associated equipment shelter and
pad all within a fenced area. Pursuant to Chapter 179-5 & 179-9 of the Zoning Ordinance
Telecommunication Towers shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval. Variance:
Use Variance required as telecommunications facilities are not allowed in a MDR zone.
Planning Board shall provide a recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals.
The Town of Queensbury Zoning Ordinance, per Section 179-9-070 J 2 b. requires the Planning
Board to provide a written recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals for projects that
require both Zoning Board of Appeals & Planning Board approval;
The Planning Board has briefly reviewed and discussed this application, the relief request in the
variance application as well as the potential impacts of this project on the neighborhood and
surrounding community, and found that:
MOTION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON BEHALF OF THE PLANNING BOARD TO
THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FOR USE VARIANCE NO. 1-2017 NEW CINGULAR
WIRELESS, PCS, LLC.: Introduced by Mr. Ferone who moved its adoption, and
The Planning Board, based on a limited review, has not identified any significant adverse
impacts that cannot be mitigated with current project proposal;
Motion seconded by Mr. Hunsinger
Duly this 14th day of February, 2017 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Deeb, Mrs. White, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Traver
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NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-All right. You're off to the ZBA.
MR. PUCHNER-Thank you.
MR. TRAVER-All right. The next application we have is for Ronald & Cynthia Mackowiak.
SITE PLAN NO. 9-2017 SEAR TYPE TYPE II RONALD & CYNTHIA MACKOWIAK
AGENT(S) HUTCHINS ENGINEERING OWNER(S) SAME AS APPLICANT ZONING WR
LOCATION 9 GLEN HALL DRIVE APPLICANT PROPOSES CONSTRUCTION OF A 440
SQ. FT. GARAGE WITH OVERHEAD STORAGE. THE PROJECT INCLUDES REMOVAL
OF 155 SQ. FT. SHED, SITE GRADING AND A RETAINING WALL. PROJECT OCCURS
WITHIN 50 FT. OF 15% SLOPES. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040 & 179-5-020 OF
THE ZONING ORDINANCE, CONSTRUCTION WITHIN 50 FT. OF 15% SLOPES SHALL BE
SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. VARIANCE: RELIEF IS
SOUGHT FOR SIDE SETBACKS AND SECOND GARAGE. PLANNING BOARD SHALL
PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. CROSS
REFERENCE SP 9-2014 GARAGE/ADDITION/SEPTIC; 74-2014 GARAGE; PZ 59-2016
GARAGE WARREN CO. REFERRAL N/A SITE INFORMATION CEA LOT SIZE 0.81
ACRE TAX MAP NO. 289.11-1-33 SECTION 179-3-040, 179-5-020, 179-6-060
LUCAS DOBIE, REPRESENTING APPLICANT, PRESENT
MRS. MOORE-This applicant proposes construction of a 440 square foot garage with overhead
storage. The project includes removal of an existing 155 square foot shed, site grading and a
retaining wall. In addition they're proposing to maintain a second 290 square foot canvas shed.
The proposed garage has been re-located due to items on the site, or information from the
applicant, and so this new garage actually I did correct this. The orientation of the garage
doors is facing the western direction. I had incorrectly included in the Staff Notes that you
received in the mail a different orientation, and the height on this one is 15 11. There is a
boulder wall that is on both sides of the structure for erosion control, and the relief requested is
for a second garage and for setbacks.
MR. TRAVER-Okay, thank you, and we did distribute an updated Staff Note packet. So you
should all have the latest version of that. Good evening.
MR. DOBIE-Good evening, Mr. Chairman and Board. Thank you for your time. Lucas Dobie
with Hutchins Engineering and property owner Ron Mackowiak's with us. As you may recall,
we worked through the yellow location shown on our working board last June through the
Planning Board and the Zoning Board. We were unanimous for our approvals with both Boards
as I recall, and subsequent to that there was an issue with the access and the right of way.
Most of that is above my pay grade, but as were revised by Mr. O'Connor, the Mackowiak's
attorney, to hold to what I have shown in red which was the drive as it existed in 2002. So if
you look, that's our access to the property that interferes directly with what was approved, the
yellow location. So here we are. We grouped and decided the best option would be to shift it
50 feet to the east and bury the back of it into the back slope, where the land comes up, so
approximately the back half of the depth are not only 12 feet but excavated into the bank. A
little bit of rock stabilization behind it. So it's essentially tucked in, and it's less visibility, not that
the road gets much traffic as it is, as we are the last property. Workability wise it's probably
easier for construction in this location from what we had because we're not working on that
northerly slope where it drops down to Reardon Road. We're working into our hillside and it's a
little bit more relief request for our side setbacks, due to the nature of the property tailing in. So
we have a little bit more relief, and still proposing the relief from the road frontage requirement
and then for what was determined to be the second garage, the canvas boat storage garage
down near Hall Road. So we're no long requesting the height variance that we had before and
I believe that's all. It's pretty straightforward and we're here to work it through again, and
hopefully we can get the Board's support and begin construction sometime late spring or
something like that so we're ready for the fall. I'd be happy to entertain any questions, folks.
Thank you.
MR. TRAVER-One of the things that I was wondering about was, just looking at the parcel
history, there've been several different applications regarding garages. In addition to the one
last year, there's apparently an application in 2014 for a garage, and then an earlier application
in 2014 for a garage an addition and septic. Can you give us an overview of where we're, I
mean, this would be the fourth garage application for this. What's the history on all that?
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MR. DOBIE-Okay. I'll give it my best shot and Ron can straighten me out. In 2014 1 believe
Ron and the architect Curt Dybas had proposed a tear down of the old camp and rebuilding of
an attached garage as I recall, and didn't get as far as they hoped to with that progress with the
Boards. So they went back and abandoned that proposal, came in and did our septic up on the
high ground, which is part of the reason there's a back slope behind our proposed garage. We
ran a force main up there, brought the property into modern septic code and then came back in
and did the re-build, variances to re-build in kind for the camp into a modern home. The work
was completed then in 2015, and then we came back in. Ron moved in and said, well, we're
pretty tight on space and it's down the hill. It's something where we can hopefully get more
storage which we did that last June. We're abandoning that proposal and here we are again.
So it's been good for business on our end.
RON MACKOWIAK
MR. MACKOWIAK-I'm getting very familiar with Planning Board meetings.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. All right, well, I did notice that and I thought it would be interesting to get
that history, such as it is.
MR. MACKOWIAK-If I can add one thing, sir.
MR. TRAVER-Sure.
MR. MACKOWIAK-The last time, where we proposed it in the yellow, we thought that that would
have been a little more cost effective, and I in no way envisioned the issues we encountered
with the right of way. We had to do a bunch of research to determine where the old right of way
was. It's not very clear in any of the documents, and as a result of that, it's right where the red
lines, where Lucas comes through. It curves. So what we'll be doing is making a natural curve
to the right when you come up and into the driveway.
MR. TRAVER-Yes.
MR. MACKOWIAK-Really didn't want to do that, though, because if you notice there are two
septic tanks that I have to re-locate now and you can understand, from an economic standpoint,
why I might not want to do that, but I have no other choice to build the garage, and we
desperately need a garage.
MR. HUNSINGER-So where are you going to put the septic tanks?
MR. MACKOWIAK-Right where they're shown now. Right now they're right underneath the
proposed garage, okay, so we're bringing them out.
MR. HUNSINGER-So isn't there concerns about driving with the cars over them?
MR. DOBIE-We put in traffic rated tanks at the time.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay.
MR. DOBIE-They have been getting driven on and parked on and have been good so far
fortunately.
MR. TRAVER-Wow.
MR. MAGOWAN-Boy you have a lot of stuff. I mean, I shouldn't talk, but you should have
started with a pole barn. Never come here with a garage. What's wrong with you?
MR. DOBIE-Well, it's pretty tight up there.
MR. MAGOWAN-Now you also own that lot behind where there's a shed and that.
MR. MACKOWIAK-Yes. The shed was actually part of the proposed garage and the
determination at that point is basically that was acceptable as is. I don't know the exact
reasons why, but it was brought up, I think they talked about it in the Zoning Board.
MR. MAGOWAN-So that dotted line that goes halfway to the yellow area, that is actually the
deeded right of way?
MR. MACKOWIAK-That is a parking area, yes. That it was how it was shown.
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MR. MAGOWAN-Parking area or deeded? I mean, I don't understand why, because the deed
would be in the land before you to get to your property. Correct?
MR. MACKOWIAK-The deeded is actually, it just basically each of the deeds on Glen Hall Drive
give you right of way to your property through the properties that start all the way at Hall Drive.
I happen to own the piece at Hall Drive. So I have to give a right of way to about five different
camps there. It's not deeded. There is no defined right of way. There's just an existing road,
and the right of way is what's currently being used. That's the way it was pretty defined. It has
never been. There's no documentation. It would take an agreement among five or six
deferent parties, and I can tell you that's almost, that's like herding cats.
MR. SHAFER-So access to the garage will not be from the south?
MR. MACKOWIAK-See where the property line is to the south? And you see the two red lines?
That is a road that continues and it goes down the hill. So basically we'll be coming close to my
neighbor's parking area, and we'll be just swinging to the right, and the garage doors would be, I
guess that would be to the east, right? On the east, west side, I'm sorry.
MR. SHAFER-The garage door is facing the lake?
MR. MACKOWIAK-Yes, sir, but considering where they are now, compared to where they were
before, you can't see hardly anything from that garage because of the height elevation. You
push it back further away. So that actually improves the situation from a visual standpoint.
MR. FERONE-I was in there today. It's an adventure driving in there.
MR. MACKOWIAK-Try plowing it.
MR. TRAVER-There is a, and I know we're not at site plan right now, but did you see the
engineering comments on the application?
MR. DOBIE-I did, sir.
MR. TRAVER-There's one question that caught my eye about the retaining wall. I think it's
comment number two. So you need not necessarily address that tonight, but it's certainly
something that if you get approval through the ZBA and you come back to us for site plan we'll
want to have some answers on, on the engineering. You're going to need a sign off on that in
any case. So that just caught my eye. It looks like it should be something that you can clean
up, but I wanted to point that out. Are there any, do Board members have any questions or
concerns that we would want to include in a recommendation to the ZBA? Or do we feel that
they're site plan in nature? Okay. I'm not hearing any. So, Mr. Secretary, if you want to put
forward a motion.
RESOLUTION RE: ZBA RECOMMENDATION RE: Z-AV-8-2017 MACKOWIAK
The applicant has submitted an application for the following: Applicant proposes construction of
a 440 sq. ft. garage with overhead storage. The project includes removal of 155 sq. ft. shed,
site grading and a retaining wall. Project occurs within 50 ft. of 15% slopes. Pursuant to chapter
179-3-040 & 179-5-020 of the Zoning Ordinance, construction within 50 ft. of 15% slopes shall
be subject to Planning Board review and approval. Variance: Relief is sought for side setbacks
and second garage. Planning Board shall provide a recommendation to the Zoning Board of
Appeals.
The Town of Queensbury Zoning Ordinance, per Section 179-9-070 J 2 b. requires the Planning
Board to provide a written recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals for projects that
require both Zoning Board of Appeals & Planning Board approval;
The Planning Board has briefly reviewed and discussed this application, the relief request in the
variance application as well as the potential impacts of this project on the neighborhood and
surrounding community, and found that:
MOTION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON BEHALF OF THE PLANNING BOARD TO
THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FOR AREA VARIANCE NO. 9-2017 RONALD &
CYNTHIA MACKOWIAK: Introduced by Mr. Ferone who moved its adoption, and
The Planning Board, based on a limited review, has not identified any significant adverse
impacts that cannot be mitigated with current project proposal;
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Motion seconded by Mr. Hunsinger
Duly adopted this 14th day of February, 2017 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Deeb, Mrs. White, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-All right. Off you go again.
MR. DOBIE-Thank you so much.
MR. MACKOWIAK-Thank you. This is the last time.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Next we move to the category of New Business, and we have before us
an application from Steve Scoville.
NEW BUSINESS:
SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY STAGE 4-2017 SUBDIVISION FINAL STAGE 5-2017 SEAR
TYPE UNLISTED STEVE SCOVILLE AGENT(S) VISION ENGINEERING OWNER(S)
LITTLE TREE PROPERTY II, LLC ZONING CI LOCATION 294 QUAKER ROAD/EVERTS
AVENUE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO SUBDIVIDE 11.2 ACRE PARCEL INTO 3 LOTS.
LOT 1- 3.018 ACRES HEWITT'S, LOT 2 — 3.262 NEW SELF-STORAGE FACILITY WITH 5
SELF-STORAGE BLOCKS, AND LOT 3 — 4.930 ACRES EXISTING RESIDENCE. SITE
PLAN/SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED FOR SELF-STORAGE. WAIVER IS
GRANTED FROM SKETCH PLAN. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 183 OF THE ZONING
ORDINANCE, SUBDIVISION OF LAND SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD
REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE SP 74-2010 SEASONAL PRODUCE
STAND; PZ 2-2002 ZONING CHG.; SUB 3-1999 3 LOT SUB; 2009-126 DEMO OF BURNED
BLDG. WARREN CO. REFERRAL N/A SITE INFORMATION WETLANDS LOT SIZE
11.22 ACRES TAX MAP NO. 302.8-2-66.1 SECTION CHAPTER 183
DAN RYAN, REPRESENTING APPLICANT, PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-It's actually a two, there's two applications related to the same parcel. The first
one is the subdivision.
MRS. MOORE-This applicant proposes a three lot subdivision of an 11.2 acre parcel. Lot One
is 3.018 acres to be owned by Hewitts, or retained by Hewitts. Lot Two is 3.262 acres. This is
the new self-storage facility with five self-storage lots, and Lot Three would be 4.93 acres and
that contains an existing residence. As part of this project there's also a site plan, a special use
permit and a freshwater wetlands permit that shows up under the site plan, and then the
applicant has requested a waiver from Sketch Plan.
MR. TRAVER-Thank you. Good evening.
MR. RYAN-Good evening. Dan Ryan with VISION Engineering. I'm here with Steve Scoville
the applicant. As you mentioned, this is kind of a multi part approval process. We're here for
Preliminary and Final Stage subdivision relating to the commercial property, and the next step
would then be site plan approval with a freshwater wetland permit as well and a special use
permit for the use. If we're going to address the subdivision initially, obviously we've got a, I
think it's an 11 acre parcel and we're proposing three lots total in the end. The Hewitts'
property would become its own parcel. Currently it is attached to that oblong shaped parcel
which wraps around some other areas and what we would be doing is creating one parcel for
Hewitts, a second parcel which would be just behind or to the south of where the Hewitts
property is, with access off Everts Avenue, and as Laura mentioned, that is the parcel that we
are seeking to develop for self-storage, and then the third parcel is just south of that where an
existing dwelling currently exists. That is also owned by the property owners and is rented, and
that is also in a commercial zone. So it's really a dwelling that's been there for quite a few
years and they basically just rent it out, and that is attached to the remainder of this weird
shaped parcel because there are substantial unbuildable areas in the wetlands out towards the
east, and so that's that large hook that wraps all the way back around another parcel. So in
total we have three lots, each ranging three acres to almost five acres, and I'd be happy to
answer any questions specific to the subdivision as we address that here in the initial step.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. There's a, a part of this they're proposing a privacy fence. Can you talk
about that a little bit, a six foot privacy fence?
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MR. RYAN-Absolutely. One of the requirements for the site plan is to have a buffering to
residential uses, not necessarily residential zoning. Like I said, the entire parcel is Commercial
Intensive zone, but because of that dwelling, we are obligated to have a buffer proposed and so
what we've done with the site plan is provide 30 feet of natural vegetative buffer which is
currently existing and continues to thrive and fill in those open spaces, and then also to provide
a privacy screen fence, again 30 feet from the property line which happens to be over 100 feet
from the dwelling unit, total distance. So it's quite a ways away from the actual structure itself.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
MR. FERONE-Is that going to be a six foot high fence?
MR. RYAN-It would be a six foot high fence. We've contemplated a couple of options, you
know, whether it be chain link with a screen in fill or a vinyl coated wire mesh with an in fill
screening. We're looking at options for cost purposes, but it would be six foot in height.
MR. FERONE-On the property line between Hewitts and where this driveway would go in for
these storage areas, there was a line of kind of arborvitaes.
MR. RYAN-Arborvitaes.
MR. FERONE-I'm assuming or hoping that they would stay in place.
MR. RYAN-They are going to stay, yes. Basically what we do is we adjusted the lot lines to
ensure I think like 10 feet from that hedge to the edge of the road, and so that would allow those
to remain, and keep that buffer. I presume that that was a buffer required probably for the
Hewitts development when that occurred. So that will be maintained, as well as to the south of
our entrance road, again, there's 30 feet of natural thick vegetation growing there and we want
that to continue to grow as well.
MR. TRAVER-I had a question, and I know it's maybe a little bit off the subject, but the self-
storage, I mean, there seem to be so many of them around. I mean, did you do any kind of
marketing analysis? Is there that much demand? I mean, they seem to be sort of popping up
all over the place.
STEVE SCOVILLE
MR. SCOVILLE-Yes, there's several in the area and we've found through phone calls and site
visits and things like that that most of them are full or nearly full.
MR. TRAVER-Really? Wow. Okay.
MR. RYAN-So supply and demand I think is really in effect here, and I'm hearing the same thing
that there's the majority of facilities in this area, and it could be due to apartment complexes
being densified in the area that 90% capacity is almost commonplace now.
MR. TRAVER-That's impressive, wow.
MR. FERONE-Are we going to ask questions on the projects now?
MR. RYAN-if you want I can touch the site plan. I don't know how sequentially you want to
handle things because they are kind of one in the same.
MR. TRAVER-Well, we have to, I think, I mean, we're going to do them one after the other. I
would say I think our practice in the past has been to do the subdivision and then do the site
plan.
MR. FERONE-I had questions. I didn't know when to ask them.
MR. TRAVER-Sure, well right now we're dealing with, in effect, kind of the lot lines and SEAR,
and then we'll get into the specifics of the storage facility.
MRS. MOORE-Mr. Chairman, I believe you could talk about site plan, only because you're
going to complete SEAR. So you want to make sure that you cover everything prior to doing
SEAR. So if there are questions about site plan, you could potentially ask that.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
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MRS. MOORE-And you can do it in an order of subdivision, then site plan or you can ask them
all at once.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. So we can kind of process the whole thing all at the same time and that
would be okay.
MRS. MOORE-As long as you complete them and the resolution's in order, yes.
MR. TRAVER-Gotcha. Okay. I stand corrected. So, yes, so in that case then we can
certainly take a look at the self-storage as well.
MR. RYAN-If you'd like I could do a real fast intro.
MR. TRAVER-Sure.
MR. RYAN-I know you've had the documents, and, you know, basically the 3.2 acre parcel
we've created the parcel to kind of mimic the topography that's out there and also kind of fit
within the parameters of design constraints for the site. Ultimately you're all well aware that
area has wetlands nearby, and that area is kind of built up on a mound. This field has been
there for quite a few years, growing naturally. Historically it had been mowed and that's kind of
fallen back in terms of maintenance of that parcel. So it does have a few scattered trees that
have been able to grow over the last few years. We've had DEC on site, as well as Army
Corps. We've done a site sending with both as well as a design meeting with DEC. Because
of the wetland adjacent area encroachment with any disturbance DEC does require a permit
through their office, and so once we have an approval here we would be submitting to DEC for a
wetland permit as well. That has a public comment period for 30 days before they issue that
permit, and it has similar standards to what you would be reviewing here, and we did make
substantial project changes as a result of our correspondence with them. We've reduced the
building and some of their concern areas with buffering, wetland, adjacent areas, we've kind of
squeezed our development down to get farther away from those sensitive spots. So that's all
been incorporated into this design. We do have five buildings proposed. Again, an entrance
road a couple of hundred feet long off of Everts Avenue to get out into the back area that is
developable, and we provide for onsite lighting, landscaping, stormwater mitigation. I guess if
there's any specific questions related to the storage facility I'd be happy to answer them. Our
paperwork I think was thorough so if there's anything related to that, we'll address those as well.
MS. WHITE-These are not high. So will they be visible from Everts Avenue?
MR. RYAN-I don't think so. I mean, I've provided some pictures. I know they're difficult to
really get a perspective of where you're, most of the vegetation is really thick and we're talking
being like 200 feet from Everts to the first building. So that's quite a distance over that. The
distance as well as the vegetation is a good screen. The building, I know I've provided a
diagram of the buildings and noted that they would be eight foot four inches to the top. There
are a couple of areas that may be nine foot four based on some more design parameters they're
looking at. So nine feet four inches would be the maximum height, you know, the height of a
pickup truck plus a couple of feet. Honestly it would probably be very limited visibility.
MS. WHITE-So the main change that you're going to see, you know, most people are going to
see, is the entryway.
MR. RYAN-The entranceway, yes, and that is provided for a 24 foot aisle, driving lane. We
have a significant hedge on the north side and 30 feet of natural vegetation on the south side.
So other than looking straight up that driving lane, it's very well screened.
MR. TRAVER-And the lighting, is that going to be automatic demand type lighting?
MR. RYAN-It would be a timer scenario where we would put the lights on a timer. We've
basically provided all down lit cut off fixtures so that the influence is directly below the fixtures. I
did provide a photometric plan to kind of give you a guide of where that .1 foot candle where the
lights are to dissipate to nothing, and I think we're quite a distance from any visible areas that
would be for glare or anything like that.
MR. FERONE-With the residence so nearby, what are the hours of operation going to be?
MR. RYAN-We have tentative plans for a 24/7 facility because it would be on an automatic gate
access point. So that would be the game plan. We have the one residence that is I think one
or two residences that are probably close, one being the rental, the other I'm not quite sure of
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the circumstances. I think the one farthest to the south is going to be far enough because
there's, again, more vegetation and there's some changes in topography as well as the direction
of the lighting isn't necessarily the direction of that southernmost property, and again, having
200 feet of separation I think from the lighting or anything that would be to the nearest dwelling.
I think that would be adequate to really minimize any visual impact that lighting would have. In
terms of overall, you know, the Quaker Road corridor is intensely lit, and I don't think there is
any darkness within, you know, a half mile of Quaker Road in any direction. So I don't think
that this, you know, being a commercial Intensive zoned parcel, I think it fits well with
transitioning out of that super lit corridor to, you know, starting to diminish lighting and intensity
of development beyond that. So I think this is a suitable kind of transition type use for this
parcel.
MR. FERONE-My other concern was the signage where you've got a pole with a large sign on
top and I don't know, is there any consideration to more ground level signage, as opposed to
something that's way up in the air?
MR. RYAN-There are two slight changes from what was proposed that we just talked about
tonight. Number One the sign was 10 by 4. We're looking at more of an 8 by 5 size. So it will
be a little bit, it won't be so long, and also the height has been reduced to 15 feet instead of the
20 feet. So we've made some minor changes from that perspective. I guess the concern
would be, at ground level, that there would be so much screening on both sides of that
entrance, and being 15 feet off the property line, which is another 15 feet from the road edge,
that sign would be practically useless once you're, you know, as you're driving by, and so to
allow for some availability to have some presence visually, we thought that the pole mounted
sign would be best suited, but they did make some changes to bring it down to 15 feet and
make it an eight by five, and again being that it's going to be, let's say 25 to 30 feet from the
edge of road, I think still the visibility from the south would be very limited because of the
vegetation there and to the north, you know, you've got that large hedge. You should be able
to see it to some degree from Everts but not much more than that.
MR. FERONE-Any opportunity to work something out with maybe Hewitts on the corner? I
know what you're trying to achieve. You're trying to get the attention of people on Quaker
Road to know that there's this facility in the area.
MR. RYAN-Exactly. Yes. The sign requirements are strict. You're obviously aware of that.
Hewitts has maxed out its signage for that parcel as it stands. I did talk to Laura briefly about
the off premises sign options. We haven't looked into that enough to know what that provides,
but I did look at the Hewitts' property in itself and it is maxed out for building and independent
signage. So it would probably require a variance to achieve that.
MR. MAGOWAN-But now days everybody has a GPS in the car and usually, or in the phone or
anything else. You're going to have an address, and if they want to find the closest storage
facility to them, you know, the address is going to be right there. So, you know, being right out
on Quaker Road and trying to, you know, people are going to, I worked off of Everts Avenue in
the building behind Minogue's. and it wasn't even Everts Avenue, but they always said, where is
it. It's right around the corner from the liquor store, and then they always found it.
MR. FERONE-Again, even at 15 feet, I just thought the signage, I know it's a mixed use area,
but it just kind of seems out of place that you've got a pole mounted sign there.
MR. RYAN-I mean, if the intention of the Board was to make a change, you know, they would
consider it. I kind of explained the reasoning behind, the methodology of what was proposed.
If you had a majority consensus that felt that something else was better, I think they're open to
suggestions.
MR. FERONE-That's just my thoughts.
MR. MAGOWAN-Well, some of the other businesses across the street, you have the, you know,
the accounting firm, you have the chiropractors. You've got Cottrell. I mean, they're all, you
know, like I said, you say you're on Everts Avenue, but you're not looking at cars coming off the
highway. Do you know what I'm saying? So if you can get it down a little lower with nice
shrubbery. Like I said, everybody's going to find it. Everybody knows where Everts Avenue
is.
MR. TRAVER-Well, the original proposal was 20, right? And as it stands now it's at 15?
MR. RYAN-15. Yes, eight by five and fifteen foot height, and I'm not entirely sure that would be
above those, that arborvitae hedge that's out there. I've got to believe that's 20 feet tall right
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now, and again, the forest to the south. That vegetation is fairly tall and significant. So I'm not
sure, other than being out of place for the character of what you see typically in Queensbury,
because there's a lot of ground signage, and then of course there's a lot of building signs that's
massive as well. I think this would be pretty well screened overall, but it is a nice feature to
have a little bit more visibility.
MR. TRAVER-Yes, I think I'd rather keep the arborvitae. Okay. Any other questions before we
go to the public hearing? Okay. I'm not hearing any. Then are there folks here this evening
that would like to address this application? Yes, sir. We do have somebody that would like to
speak on your application. So if you would give up the table.
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
MACLANE HADDEN
My name is Maclane Hadden. I'm the owner of Mack the Knife on Quaker Road. My property
falls on the back line of it. I guess I'm here to just kind of be curious of borderline fence around
the property, to see that we're secure traffic wise, because 224 buildings he's going to be
offering in there which is going to increase the traffic. We've dealt with theft in the past, and I'm
kind of concerned with the right of way through my property in there, that it'll be secured and
closed in so I don't have to deal with the elements there. That's probably my biggest concern.
Property for what he's proposing doesn't seem to be a problem. I think for location and how it's
going to work in there, I don't think it's a bad idea. Theft is huge because there seems to be a
backyard way for people to go through there and I hope not to have to deal with that. So my
biggest concern is probably for security around it, lighting, and the 24/7 1 guess I'm not really big
on, but I guess maybe that's the way they operate, but that leaves my building wide open
around the clock for people that want to hop over the fence. So that's just the issue I was
concerned about.
MR. TRAVER-In addition to a fence, when you speak about security, in addition to a fence, what
would you have in mind?
MR. HADDEN-Well, I guess he talked about having a six foot, some type of fence.
MR. TRAVER-A privacy fence.
MR. HADDEN-If they're going to jump over the fence or break the fence, they're going to do it,
but at least it's secured in. The access going in, the lighting, you know, the 24/7 if it was gated.
I was curious about security, you know, we've had things taken in the past. We've had people
go through the back field there to help themselves and my concern was if people have got some
type of business they're keeping their container, they want to drive to the structure, they want to
come through my backyard, hop the fence and go and take care of their business and leave, I
don't see it out of, you know, things like that happen. So who knows what they put in their
container or who stashes what in there, but the thing is security wise, and if I hadn't dealt with it
in the past and had a lot of things taken out of my backyard and had people taking access in
there, I wouldn't be complaining, but it's happened before and I'd hate to see it happen now.
MR. TRAVER-Sure.
MR. HADDEN-His idea and his structure, I think it's great, but I don't want to have to take the
impact of the traffic going through our backyard there. So that's my biggest concern.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Well, I think what they're proposing is a key card access with like an
automatic gate. So, you know, to your point about people, if they want to jump the fence, I
don't know how you'd.
MR. HADDEN-Yes, it's a deterrent, no doubt about it, you know, if they're bound and
determined, they'll find a way in, but the traffic wise, I'd find people that were coming through my
back way, parking and not knowing why they're there and whatever they were doing in the
backyard and I just don't want that to be convenient access for, if they don't want to go to use
the key card and they want to go in and conduct some business, then if there's any type of
surveillance or proper lighting or something to deter that, I'm all about it.
MR. TRAVER-Sure. Okay. Thank you.
MR. MAGOWAN-It looks like the only thing they have here is a split rail fence along, Mack's up
there and this corner, but your lot's a little bit deeper than the two adjacent ones there. So you
have, it looks like.
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MR. HADDEN-Yes, and the split rail fence.
MR. MAGOWAN-It doesn't go all the way down.
MR. HADDEN-Right.
MR. MAGOWAN-It stops before that.
MR. RYAN-I can answer the question when we're set.
MR. HUNSINGER-I was having a hard time finding where the fence went, too.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you, sir. So is there anyone else that wanted to speak on this
application? I didn't see any hands earlier. Are there any written comments?
MRS. MOORE-There's no public comment for the subdivision.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you.
MR. RYAN-I'll address that quickly. We are proposing a security fence along the entire north
boundary, which divides this parcel from the parcels to the north. Laura, could you just zoom in
on the upper, yes, right in there near that north, where your cursor is. Okay. So that whole
north boundary has a six foot fence on it, okay. That goes all the way to the corner pin in the
upper right hand corner there. So that would obviously deter any access from that parcel.
MR. MAGOWAN-Laura, shift it this way. The other way. That little jog, right where your cursor
is.
MR. RYAN-That would be in water. You would be in water if you went that way. That shading
just to the right of our cursor is standing water for that wetland. So that's highly vegetated.
That corner pin right there is the transition between woods and forest and wetland to open field,
which is to the left. So we're fencing that entire open area with a six foot fence, and then from
that point down to the south, obviously if you read the paperwork, DEC is requiring a split rail
fence only to protect access to the wetlands, and they want to promote natural habitat over
there. So they're requiring that split rail fence specifically for that purpose, and then again we'll
have fencing along the whole western boundary, as well as the access being to prohibit access
without a key card. So the site will be fairly secure. It'll be lit. So that'll be a deterrent as
well, and we are, the applicant is proposing a security system for this entire parcel, with
cameras. So if there isn't, that can't be any less of a deterrent tan what it is now, which is
accessible, vacant land in the dark with roadways, and if it's a problem, it's more likely to be a
problem as a vacant parcel than what we're proposing.
MR. TRAVER-So you are going to have video surveillance?
MR. RYAN-Yes, there will be.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. So theoretically if there was some untoward activity you became aware
of, you could go back and look.
MR. RYAN-You could review the recordings, yes.
MR. SHAFER-So your chain link fence across the north, does that totally separate your property
from the property of Mack the Knife?
MR. RYAN-Yes.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, thanks for the explanation. I was looking at the fence before and I was
trying to figure it out, where it stopped and when it connected.
MR. RYAN-You end up in the water. So obviously a vehicle couldn't do that. Stopping
humans, I mean, there's trails all over through there, behind the dollar store and cutting through
the woods, but I mean, like I said, if it's happening, it's happening now if it's happening.
MR. HUNSINGER-ii was just amazed how open the property was.
MR. RYAN-When you get in the back there, yes.
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MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, because, I mean you don't really notice the project.
MR. RYAN-You wouldn't, and it's fairly large. I mean, it's three and a half acres of field there,
and it's pretty significant. Yes.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Well, let's see, the next step would be SEAR.
MRS. MOORE-Actually, are you closing your public hearing?
MR. TRAVER-Yes, so if we're going to move into SEAR, we will close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR. TRAVER-The applicant did provide a Long Environmental Assessment, and we do have a
draft motion. I would note there's one minor correction to the draft motion. It does say
declaration for subdivision final stage. It should say preliminary stage. So if you would just
note that change for the record, and then ask if members have the Board have environmental
concerns that would impact on the issue of SEAR? I'm not hearing any. Okay. So we can
go ahead and have a motion, Mr. Secretary.
RESOLUTION GRANTING A NEGATIVE SEQR DEC. PRELIM. SUBD. STEVE SCOVILLE
The applicant proposes to subdivide 11.2 acre parcel into 3 lots. Lot 1 — 3.018 acres Hewitt's,
Lot 2 — 3.262 new self-storage facility with 5 self-storage blocks, and Lot 3 — 4.930 acres
existing residence. Site Plan/Special Use Permit is required for self-storage Waiver is
requested from sketch plan. Pursuant to Chapter 183 of the Zoning Ordinance, subdivision of
land shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval.
The Planning Board has determined that the proposed project and Planning Board action is
subject to review under the State Environmental Quality Review Act;
The proposed action considered by this Board is Unlisted in the Department of Environmental
Conservation Regulations implementing the State Environmental Quality Review Act and the
regulations of the Town of Queensbury;
No Federal or other agencies are involved;
Part 1 of the Long EAF has been completed by the applicant;
Part 2 of the Long EAF has been reviewed by the Planning Board;
Upon review of the information recorded on this EAF, it is the conclusion of the Town of
Queensbury Planning Board as lead agency that this project will result in no significant adverse
impacts on the environment, and, therefore, an environmental impact statement need not be
prepared. Accordingly, this negative declaration is issued.
MOTION TO GRANT A NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY
STAGE 4-2017 STEVE SCOVILLE, Introduced by George Ferone who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Brad Magowan;
As per the resolution prepared by staff.
1. Part 11 of the Long EAF has been reviewed and completed by the Planning Board.
2. Part III of the Long EAF is not necessary because the Planning Board did not identify
potentially moderate to large impacts.
Duly adopted this 14th day of February, 2017 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Ferone, Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-All right. Then next we can move into the resolution for Preliminary Stage. This
is for the subdivision only so far. Are there any concerns regarding Preliminary Stage? I'm not
hearing any.
RESOLUTION APPROVING PRELIMINARY STAGE SUB. #4-2017 STEVE SCOVILLE
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A subdivision application has been made to the Queensbury Planning Board for the following:
Applicant proposes to subdivide 11.2 acre parcel into 3 lots. Lot 1 — 3.018 acres Hewitt's, Lot 2
— 3.262 new self-storage facility with 5 self-storage blocks, and Lot 3 — 4.930 acres existing
residence. Site Plan/Special Use Permit is required for self-storage Waiver is requested from
sketch plan. Pursuant to Chapter 183 of the Zoning Ordinance, subdivision of land shall be
subject to Planning Board review and approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter A-183, the
Planning Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the
Zoning Code;
The requirements of the State Environmental Quality Review Act have been considered and the
Planning Board has adopted a SEQRA Negative Declaration
A public hearing was scheduled and held on 2/14/2017;
This application is supported with all documentation, public comment, and application material
in the file of record;
MOTION TO APPROVE SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY STAGE 4-2017 STEVE SCOVILLE,
Introduced by George Ferone who moved its adoption.
Granting a waiver from Sketch Plan.
Motion seconded by Brad Magowan. Duly adopted this 14th day of February, 2017, by the
following vote:
MRS. MOORE-As part of that motion, you also have, the applicant is requesting a waiver from
Sketch.
MR. TRAVER-Thank you.
MRS. MOORE-Waiver from the Sketch Plan Stage.
MR. TRAVER-Waiver from Sketch Plan.
MRS. MOORE-So you may include that in your motion that you're granting, if you're granting a
waiver from Sketch.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
MR. FERONE-Amended resolution to include waivers from Sketch Plan.
MR. MAGOWAN-Second it.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. We have an amended motion that's been made and seconded. Any
other questions, comments, concerns on Preliminary Stage? Not hearing any, so, Laura, we
can have the vote.
AYES: Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-All right. Next step in Subdivision is Final Stage, and we have a draft motion.
I'd note there's also a draft waiver in this motion.
MR. FERONE-Yes.
RESOLUTION APPROVING FINAL STAGE SUB # 5-2017 STEVE SCOVILLE
A subdivision application has been made to the Queensbury Planning Board for the following:
Applicant proposes to subdivide 11.2 acre parcel into 3 lots. Lot 1 — 3.018 acres Hewitt's, Lot 2
— 3.262 new self-storage facility with 5 self-storage blocks, and Lot 3 — 4.930 acres existing
residence. Site Plan/Special Use Permit is required for self-storage Waiver is requested from
sketch plan. Pursuant to Chapter 183 of the Zoning Ordinance, subdivision of land shall be
subject to Planning Board review and approval.
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Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter A-183, the
Planning Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the
Zoning Code;
A public hearing was scheduled and held on 2/14/2017;
This application is supported with all documentation, public comment, and application material
in the file of record;
MOTION TO APPROVE SUBDIVISION FINAL STAGE 5-2017 STEVE SCOVILLE, Introduced
by George Ferone who moved its adoption.
1. The requirements of the State Environmental Quality Review Act have been considered and
the Planning Board has adopted a SEQRA Negative Declaration; and if the application is a
modification, the requirements of the State Environmental Quality Review Act have been
considered, and the proposed modification[s] do not result in any new or significantly
different environmental impacts, and, therefore, no further SEQRA review is necessary;
2. Waiver requestsrg anted: landscaping & buffer;
Motion seconded by Brad Magowan. Duly adopted this 14th day of February, 2017 by the
following vote:
AYES: Ms. White, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Deeb, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-All right, and we've had quite a bit of discussion. We'll move on to the next
application, which is the same applicant, for Site Plan 11-2017, Special Use Permit 2-2017 and
Freshwater Wetlands Permit 1-2017.
SITE PLAN NO. 11-2017 SPECIAL USE PERMIT NO. 2-2017 FRESHWATER WETLANDS
PERMIT 1-2017 SEAR TYPE UNLISTED STEVE SCOVILLE AGENT(S) VISION
ENGINEERING OWNER(S) LITTLE TREE PROPERTIES II, LLC ZONING CI
LOCATION EVERTS AVENUE APPLICANT PROPOSES CONSTRUCTION OF FIVE SELF-
STORAGE BLOCKS — 1) 30' X 210', 2) 30' X 210', 3) 25' X 210', 4) 25' X 200' AND 5) 180' X
20' — TOTAL UNITS 224 +/-. PROJECT INCLUDES DISTURBANCE OF 2.5 ACRES, SITE
WORK AND NEW ACCESS FROM EVERTS AVENUE. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-
040 & 179-10 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, SELF-STORAGE UNITS SHALL BE SUBJECT
TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE SUB 4-2017 &
SUB 5-2017 WARREN CO. REFERRAL FEBRUARY 2017 SITE INFORMATION
WETLANDS LOT SIZE 3.262 ACRES TAX MAP NO. 302.8-2-66.1 SECTION 179-3-040,
179-10
DAN RYAN, REPRESENTING APPLICANT, PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-We have reviewed this, I think, fairly extensively, but we do have the Special Use
Permit criteria in addition to the structures themselves. Laura, do you want to review the
Special Use Permit for that?
MRS. MOORE-So the five self-storage building, one building is 30 by 210. The second building
is 30 by 210. The third building is 25 by 210. The fourth building is 25 by 200. The fifth
building is 180 by 20. I've noted that it's 224, and I would say plus or minus, depending on how
that works out for the units that they're installing, and then I have, you already understand that
the signage is changing, is going to be 15 feet in height and it still is at 40 square feet, and the
applicant has been working with the Army Corps and DEC in reference to the wetlands, and that
information is available on the site plan for their requirements. Under traffic they talk about
eight designated spaces, and there's 37 overflow parking spaces that are shown in the grass
area for a total of 45 spaces, and then under the Freshwater Wetlands Permit, the applicant
proposes work within 100 feet of the wetland, and we've identified that through the site plan.
Under Special Use Permit the applicant has outlined information and its consistency with the
Comprehensive Plan, compatibility with the area, access and circulation on the site to and from,
the infrastructure and services. There's stormwater swales versus, and underground utility to
be installed. We talked about environmental natural features and the long term effects, you
know, the self-storage operation provides an additional commercial use in the area, and under
specific criteria fencing, we've discussed the fencing at length. So we know where the fencing
location is. We know what the fencing height is. That's all I have.
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MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. All right. So now we're considering your, the other
components to your application. One quick question I had, it has to do with the engineering
comments. Item Number Three, there is a comment about the DEC comments on the wetlands
and some correspondence and there were some requests or modifications to the plans, the
question was were those modifications included in the latest plan?
MR. RYAN-Yes. That meeting took place, I want to say just a couple of days before the
submission deadline.
MR. TRAVER-January 12th is the correspondence.
MR. RYAN-January 12th
MR. TRAVER-Was the correspondence.
MR. RYAN-Yes, and on the 15th we submitted. So ultimately we were able to get the last
couple of comments that DEC had concerns about. So the most recent correspondence I've
had with them regarding the e-mail is they can't really comment officially until they have an
application, which, you know, happens after this step, was that they were satisfied with all the
design changes and in particular the protective fence, the split rail fence. One of the other
requirements was that the stormwater pond be a wetland pond design, which we have
incorporated, and the last piece I believe was removal of any overflow parking in that lower right
corner. We originally had some there. Obviously we didn't see that plan that Laura had, and
that was the changes that kind of came out of that last correspondence, and that was to provide
a maximum buffer in that, basically in that southeast corner, because that did project closest to
that wetland, and so they want that mitigated, and so we did address that as well.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Okay, and the Special Use Permit, again, Laura, we're confronted with
the duration.
MRS. MOORE-The Board can consider duration. You do not have to. It's not a requirement.
MR. TRAVER-Yes, I think in this case if we grant one, it kind of makes sense to make it
permanent.
MRS. MOORE-Permanent.
MR. TRAVER-Okay, and I just noted that because I know that.
MR. DEEB-You're not going to tear them down.
MR. TRAVER-All right. So is there anything that you want to add regarding this aspect of your
application?
MR. RYAN-No. I think in regards to the Freshwater Wetland Permit., we've done a lot of work
with both agencies involved and they seem satisfied with a lot of the project changes we've
made. Again, we've really shrunk down the size and footprint of the original design, and so that
made them considerably favorable for the project. So in addressing that, and in terms of
addressing the Special Use Permit, I've already mentioned I feel this is a great transition use
between heading towards the residences to the south, which are obviously quite a distance
away, but still, being that it is zoned intense commercial, this is kind of a passive use of a site
like this, and I think that's well suited for this location. In regards to site plan, you know, being
that we are compliant with the regulations, we were able to meet all of the design standards. I
feel that this project kind of came together. While we originally wanted a bigger scoped project,
what we have is acceptable to the applicant and I think that it's well suited, again, for this
particular area.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. Questions, comments from members of the Board?
MR. DEEB-I'd like to re-address the sign, if we could, and solidify that up.
MR. RYAN-Yes, absolutely.
MR. DEEB-All the signs around are freestanding nice wooden signs. I'd like to see your sign
being characteristic with the rest of the signs, rather than a pole sign. I think that would make it
look a lot nicer.
MR. TRAVER-You mean like a monument sign?
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MR. DEEB-Yes, well, you look around, they all have their big board signs.
MS. WHITE-Like the CPA sign.
MR. DEEB-Yes. Like the CPA, instead of having a pole. I agree with George on that. I'd like
to see it fit in with the characteristics of the neighborhood.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
MR. RYAN-Is there a way you could condition that, if it's an oversight, I don't know, by Staff or if
we don't have anything specific to detail here?
MR. TRAVER-As far as design, we know that we have Code. I think we're going to be asked to
make it something specific. So do you have a specific height in mind, a height limit? It's at 15
feet now.
MR. HUNSINGER-You gave us a sample.
MR. RYAN-You have a rendering of the sign that was originally proposed which, again, was 10
by 4 at 20 feet, and we're proposing 8 by 5 at 15 feet tonight. If, you know, the colors, I'm
assuming some of that's discretionary. If you want more neutral palette or something, you
know, things like that that might fit more with its background, with the trees and the vegetation in
the area, I think they're open to that type of suggestion. If you have something more specific
than that, we'd be happy to discuss that.
MR. DEEB-I'm not trying to be that specific, just to make it fit in with the characteristics of the
neighborhood, so it blends in. I don't know, our Code is, if you go, you said 10 by 5.
MR. RYAN-It's 40 square feet, I believe, is the max.
MR. DEEB-And you're going eight by five?
MR. RYAN-We're going eight by five, yes, 40 square feet.
MR. DEEB-Thanks, and you're going to go up 15.
MR. TRAVER-Yes, the top of the sign would be at 15.
MR. RYAN-So the bottom of the sign would be the 10 feet.
MR. DEEB-And I don't have a problem with that as long as it fits into the neighborhood, but
instead of using a pole.
MR. TRAVER-So you're not suggesting a change to height. You're suggesting a change in the
support structure. Okay.
MR. RYAN-Just the style. I mean, obviously, it seems like what's, you know, we've got a pole
with a rectangle on it, and obviously we can provide two poles with a rectangle, but it provides
some vegetation and, you know, landscaping. Again, to reduce that 10 foot height down to
visibility of, you know, four feet because we have shrubs there, you know.
MR. TRAVER-I'd rather have them have shrubs than to have to clean the shrubs out so their
smaller sign is going to be seen.
MR. RYAN-I think being that the bottom of the sign's at 10 feet with landscaping, we could really
reduce any impact of any kind of pole structure that supports it.
MR. DEEB-That's fine.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
MR. RYAN-We have landscaping, but we'll ensure that it maybe covers, you know, the lower
half of the poles, or the supporting structure. Will that suffice?
MR. TRAVER-Yes. How do you feel about that? Okay. All right. So we can add that to the
motion, yes, some landscaping.
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MR. DEEB-Thank you.
MR. RYAN-No problem.
MR. TRAVER-That sounds like a good suggestion and people seem to be liking that. Thank
you.
MR. HUNSINGER-How about the balance of the engineering comments?
MR. RYAN-I've reviewed them in depth several times. I mean, I know there's a few of them
here. I see two or three that require some engineering like real engineering to mitigate some
computations. The rest is some clean up stuff relating to detailing and notes. We do have,
you know, I've looked at every one of these, and there's nothing here that would require me to
change the project substantially. The biggest issue being control the volume of runoff and, you
know, we do have the ability to infiltrate on the southern half of the site and so we'll just add
some more infiltration in that area to mitigate those questions. So I don't see any concerns
here with any of these comments that would require me to change the project, more than maybe
a couple of underground structures or, you know, an infiltration system or something.
MR. HUNSINGER-1 mean, I tend to agree with that, but I wanted to hear your comments about
it. I mean, it's a long list. They're kind of minor.
MR. RYAN-It is. Well, everybody reviews projects differently. There's some questions here
that are meaningless to the overall results of the calculations.
MR. HUNSINGER-Right.
MR. RYAN-And to me, after 22 years you don't want to go to that level of detail when you know
it's not necessary, but I'm happy to address every comment and add it and, you know, whatever
I have to do to manage that I will do. Again, I read through it, I see a lot of minor points that
have to be cleaned up, but I don't see anything that would require the project to change in any
way. Other than, again, some infiltration system, you know, volume is the issue that they're
basically, if I wanted to point out anything major it would be the volume concern in terms of pre
versus post development. Because we have shallow water table we're restricted. Most of
Queensbury's beautiful sand with unlimited infiltration capacity. This one's a little more
complex than that. So again, I don't see anything there that would be a problem.
MR. FERONE-And the other question I had was, even though this is somewhat segregated if
you would, we talked about the fencing. What are the colors of the units going to be/
MR. RYAN-I think we're going with green and cream, so dark green with maybe a cream trim,
and there might be a picture in there. I just don't know if it's color.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, there is. The overhead doors were green. It looked like gray in this
picture.
MR. RYAN-It's gray or cream. So it would be dark green predominantly I guess I would say,
yes. There's a lot of information, unfortunately.
MRS. MOORE-Mr. Chairman, you can open the public hearing also, as part of this site plan.
MR. TRAVER-For the site plan, yes. Thank you. There is a public hearing on this application
as well as the prior one. So we'll re-open the public hearing on Site Plan 11-2017. Are there
those that wish to comment further on this application? Do we have any written comments?
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
MRS. MOORE-No, there's no written comments for the Site Plan.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Seeing none, hearing none we will close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR. TRAVER-Are there any further questions or suggestions for amendments to the resolution?
We have one, I believe, regarding the sign structure. So I guess we can go ahead and
entertain a motion.
MR. FERONE-Okay. I'll give this a shot.
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RESOLUTION APPROVING SP # 11-2017 SUP #2-2017 FWW 1-2017 STEVE SCOVILLE
The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board for construction of five self-
storage blocks — 1)30' x 210', 2)30 x 210', 3)25'x 210', 4) 25' x 200' and 5) 180' x 20' — total
units 224+/-. Project includes disturbance of 2.5 acres, site work and new access from Everts
Avenue. Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040 & 179-10 of the Zoning Ordinance, self-storage units
shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-080, the
Planning Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the
Zoning Code;
As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to
the Warren County Planning Department for its recommendation;
The Planning Board has reviewed the potential environmental impacts of the project, pursuant
to the State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA) and adopted a SEQRA Negative
Declaration — Determination of Non-Significance
The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 2/14/2017, and
continued the public hearing to 2/14/2017, when it was closed,
The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all
comments made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 2/14/2017;
The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and
standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval,
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN 11-2017, SPECIAL USE PERMIT 2-2017 &
FRESHWATER WETLANDS PERMIT 1-2017 STEVE SCOVILLE; Introduced by George
Ferone who moved for its adoption.
The Special Use Permit will be a permanent permit, no expiration.
According to the draft resolution prepared by Staff with the following:
1) Waivers requested granted;
2. Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution.
a) The limits of clearing will constitute a no-cut buffer zone, orange construction
fencing shall be installed around these areas and field verified by Community
Development staff;
b) If applicable, the Sanitary Sewer connection plan must be submitted to the
Wastewater Department for its review, approval, permitting and inspection;
c) If curb cuts are being added or changed a driveway permit is required. A building
permit will not be issued until the approved driveway permit has been provided to the
Planning Office;
d) If application was referred to engineering then Engineering sign-off required prior to
signature of Zoning Administrator of the approved plans;
e) Final approved plans should have dimensions and setbacks noted on the site
plan/survey, floor plans and elevation for the existing rooms and proposed rooms in the
building and site improvements;-
f) If required, the applicant must submit a copy of the following to the Town:
a. The project NOI (Notice of Intent) for coverage under the current "NYSDEC
SPDES General Permit from Construction Activity" prior to the start of any site
work.
b. The project NOT (Notice of Termination) upon completion of the project;
c. The applicant must maintain on their project site, for review by staff:
i. The approved final plans that have been stamped by the Town Zoning
Administrator. These plans must include the project SWPPP (Storm
Water Pollution Prevention Plan) when such a plan was prepared and
approved;
ii. The project NOI and proof of coverage under the current NYSDEC
SPDES General Permit, or an individual SPDES permit issued for the
project if required.
g) Final approved plans, in compliance with the Site Plan, must be submitted to the
Community Development Department before any further review by the Zoning
Administrator or Building and Codes personnel;
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h) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of
Building Permit and/or the beginning of any site work;
i) Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on
compliance with this and all other conditions of this resolution;
j) As-built plans to certify that the site plan is developed according to the approved plans to
be provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy.
k) This resolution is to be placed in its entirety on the final plans
1) The 15 foot pole sign with a signage of eight by five feet, that the signage will be in a
landscaped box with landscaping around the bottom of the pole.
Motion seconded by David Deeb. Duly adopted this 14th day of February, 2017 by the following
vote:
AYES: Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-All right, you are all set.
MR. SCOVILLE-Thank you very much.
MR. TRAVER-You are very welcome.
MR. RYAN-Thank you.
MR. TRAVER-All right. The next and last item on our agenda for this evening is Primelink
Incorporated, Site Plan 8-2017.
SITE PLAN NO 8-2017 SEAR TYPE UNLISTED PRIMELINK, INC. OWNER(S) T & M
JACOBS PROPERTIES, LLC ZONING CI LOCATION 643 GLEN STREET APPLICANT
PROPOSES TO LEASE 1,843 SQ. FT. FIRST FLOOR INTERIOR SPACE OF AN EXISTING
BUILDING 27,488 SQ. FT. (FOOTPRINT), 31,182 SQ. FT. (FLOOR AREA). PROJECT IS
INTENDED FOR A NEW TENANT — NO CHANGES TO INTERIOR, BUILDING EXTERIOR
OR SITE. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 19-3-040 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, ADDING A
TENANT TO AN EXISTING BUILDING SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD
REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE SP 41-2003 FENCE/LANDSCAPING;
SP 42-2005 WAREHOUSE; AV 64-2006 STORAGE BLDG. WARREN CO. REFERRAL
FEBRUARY 2017 LOT SIZE 5.38 ACRES TAX MAP NO. 302.11-1-2 SECTION 179-3-040
STEVE SOUTHWICK, REPRESENTING APPLICANT, PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-Laura?
MRS. MOORE-This applicant proposes to lease a portion of an existing building. The lease is
1,843 square feet. It's first floor interior space. The existing building has a 27,488 square foot
footprint. The floor area of the entire building is 31,182. The project is intended for a new
tenant, no changes to the interior of the building or the exterior or the site. The applicant is
utilizing office space as well as a garage space.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. Good evening.
MR. SOUTHWICK-Good evening. My name is Steve Southwick. I'm responsible for
operations for Primelink in the Glens Falls area. We're a fiber optic business data and voice
company. We've been in the area for quite a while and we just want to try to establish a little
better presence of our own use in your community. Currently we're off of Exit 18 and we'd like
to move closer into Town and Mr. Jacobs' facility will accommodate our needs very effectively.
I just want to reiterate that we're not changing the site at all. We're not changing anything
inside. All we're going to do is occupy some space within the existing building. If I could refer
you to the letter that's with the application from our president, it actually references a little bit
more specifically our intentions, but I'm here to answer any questions that you may have about
our operation and our potential future here and how we'd like to be more a part of the
community and that this will help us do that because it gives us somewhat of a storefront.
MR. TRAVER-Sure, yes, and I see your name's going to be on the canopy.
MR. SOUTHWICK-Yes, correct.
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MR. TRAVER-No changes to interior building, exterior, or site. So we're not looking at any
changes in any kind, although this is a SEQR Unlisted. So we do need to do SEQR on this.
MRS. MOORE-It's better to err in completing the SEQR form than to not do it at all.
MR. TRAVER-I'm sorry?
MRS. MOORE-It's better to complete the SEQR form than to not do it at all. If you look through
the SEQR and determine which ones are considered Type II, this is one of those areas where.
MR. TRAVER-Kind of a gray area.
MRS. MOORE-I would suggest that you just complete SEQR as part of the process.
MR. TRAVER-Sure. Okay. Very good. That should be easy to respond to that question.
MR. HUNSINGER-So in terms of customers, do you have to have fiber optic cable like at your
house in order to be a customer?
MR. SOUTHWICK-Yes.
MR. HUNSINGER-So how much of the area has that?
MR. SOUTHWICK-Just a little history about the company. We started about 20 years ago in
Plattsburgh. We established a fiber optic network between Montreal and Albany on the railroad
right of way, and also over those 20 years we've been jumping off the tracks at different
locations strategically. Glens Falls really has a similar demographic to Plattsburgh in size and
some of the businesses, and that's why we targeted this area. So we came off the tracks on
West River Road in the Town of Moreau and we built into Fort Edward, Hudson Falls, and then
into Glens Falls. In fact, we provide your offices with a backup fiber optic connection here at
the Town of Queensbury. We actually are across Exit 18 through your conduit that you put in
years ago on the extension of Broad Street out towards Exit 18. So we do have a connection.
It's just that we want to have more of a presence. I keep saying that but it's very important to
us, customer service wise and business brick and mortar wise.
MR. FERONE-For a business, as he pointed out, he provides a diverse route down to Albany
which is the hub out if you're making any kind of communications and their route, coming down
the railroad tracks, is completely diverse than from what everybody else provides.
MR. SOUTHWICK-Yes.
MR. TRAVER-Interesting.
MR. SOUTHWICK-So, you know, this really gives us a good opportunity and we want to make it
work. Another thing we do, too, is we help sponsor The Thunder, and we're very proud of that
as well. I'm also on the Town Board in our local community in Champlain, so I know what you
guys have to do. I admire what you do on the Planning Board. I was on it for one year and I
didn't do very well. Especially with the APA. I don't know how you do it. I absolutely don't.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, well, fortunately a lot of the Town is not in the APA.
MR. SOUTHWICK-It isn't? Okay. So you get a break.
MR. TRAVER-We have kind of a hybrid situation where some of us are outside the blue line.
MR. FERONE-And another question was about their services, but I think you're only
commercial. You don't provide residential service.
MR. SOUTHWICK-You know what, we tried it. We tried it in Plattsburgh but it's just not
economically feasible. The fiber itself is inexpensive, but the optical equipment on the end of
the fiber is way expensive. So our return on investment is very difficult, and it's a very
competitive business. You have a lot of competition in this area and we're not afraid of it.
Verizon, Time Warner, Tech Valley, bring them on, but it's residential it's really difficult, and it's
like the old days with long distance. As soon as somebody finds something else that's 10 cents
cheaper, they're calling you up and saying I'm out of here. So it's really hard to keep people,
especially on the residential side. We'll get there. We're just not there yet.
MR. TRAVER-The return on investment isn't there yet.
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MR. SOUTHWICK-It's very difficult. It's over three years, and most people don't want to commit
to three years on a residential contract. So I appreciate the questions. I have that question all
the time, when can you come to our community. I love competing with Time Warner.
MR. MAGOWAN-It's going to happen. It's just a matter of time, and you'll find something that
can do it efficiently for a better price. It's just a matter of time. Someone's going to figure it
out.
MR. SOUTHWICK-Yes. The economics are going to turn in our favor. You're exactly right,
because it's an amazing product. It really is. Okay. I'm done. Sorry.
MR. HUNSINGER-1 have that where I work.
MR. SOUTHWICK-Where you work? And where do you work?
MR. HUNSINGER-In the Traveler's building.
MR. SOUTHWICK-Okay. Yes.
MR. HUNSINGER-There's tons of fiber.
MR. SOUTHWICK-Yes, I had established a very good relationship with the Traveler's building.
In fact we even have a wireless connection on top where we can shoot fixed wireless off of the
top of the Traveler's building. So we're getting there.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. So.
MR. HUNSINGER-Back to the project.
MR. TRAVER-Yes, back to the project.
MR. HUNSINGER-Well there's no changes to the building, no changes to the site. I mean, all
they're doing is putting a sign up.
MR. DEEB-It's really a no-brainer.
MR. TRAVER-Yes. So to that point, we do have a SEQR resolution we need to process in
here, and for good reason. So let's go ahead and do that.
MRS. MOORE-Prior to doing that you should open your public hearing.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. We will open the public hearing on this project. I'm not seeing anyone in
the audience. Is there any written comments?
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
MRS. MOORE-And there's no written comments.
MR. TRAVER-The public hearing is closed.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR. TRAVER-We'll move on to the SEQR resolution. I think, as Chris pointed out, there
doesn't seem to be many environmental concerns to say the least, but for the record we will do
a SEQR resolution.
RESOLUTION GRANTING A NEGATIVE SEQR DEC SITE PLAN 8-2017 PRIMELINK, INC.
The applicant proposes to lease 1,843 sq. ft. first floor interior space of an existing building
27,488 sq. ft. (footprint), 31,182 sq. ft. (floor area). Project is intended for a new tenant — no
changes to interior, building exterior or site. Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040 of the Zoning
Ordinance, adding a tenant to an existing building shall be subject to Planning Board review and
approval.
The Planning Board has determined that the proposed project and Planning Board action is
subject to review under the State Environmental Quality Review Act;
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The proposed action considered by this Board is Unlisted in the Department of Environmental
Conservation Regulations implementing the State Environmental Quality Review Act and the
regulations of the Town of Queensbury;
No Federal or other agencies are involved;
Part 1 of the Short EAF has been completed by the applicant;
Upon review of the information recorded on this EAF, it is the conclusion of the Town of
Queensbury Planning Board as lead agency that this project will result in no significant adverse
impacts on the environment, and, therefore, an environmental impact statement need not be
prepared. Accordingly, this negative declaration is issued.
MOTION TO GRANT A NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR SITE PLAN 8-2016 PRIMELINK,
INC., Introduced by George Ferone who moved for its adoption.
As per the resolution prepared by staff.
1. Part II of the Short EAF has been reviewed and completed by the Planning Board.
2. Part III of the Short EAF is not necessary because the Planning Board did not identify
potentially moderate to large impacts.
Motion seconded by Brad Magowan. Duly adopted this 14th day of February, 2017 by the
following vote:
AYES: Ms. White, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Deeb, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-All right, and with that we can move on to the Site Plan resolution.
MR. FERONE-There were no waivers.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, there were waivers.
MR. FERONE-There were?
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, well it's requested or left blank.
MR. TRAVER-We are ready.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SITE PLAN 8-2017 PRIMELINK, INC.
The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board for Site Plan approval
pursuant to Article 9 of the Town zoning Ordinance for: Applicant proposes to lease 1,843 sq.
ft. first floor interior space of an existing building 27,488 sq. ft. (footprint), 31,182 sq. ft. (floor
area). Project is intended for a new tenant — no changes to interior, building exterior or site.
Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040 of the Zoning Ordinance, adding a tenant to an existing building
shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-080, the
Planning Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the
Zoning Code;
As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to
the Warren County Planning Department for its recommendation;
The Planning Board has reviewed the potential environmental impacts of the project, pursuant
to the State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA) and adopted a SEQRA Negative
Declaration — Determination of Non-Significance
The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 2/14/2017 and
continued the public hearing to 2/14/2017, when it was closed,
The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all
comments made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 2/14/2017;
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The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and
standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval,
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN 8-2017 PRIMELINK, INC., Introduced by George Ferone
who moved for its adoption.
Per the draft provided by staff conditioned upon the following conditions:
1) Waivers requestrg anted: G. site lighting, stormwater, topography, landscaping, soil
logs, construction, demolition disposal and snow removal.
2) Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution
Motion seconded by David Deeb. Duly adopted this 14th day of February, 2017 by the following
vote:
AYES: Mr. Shafer, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-You are all set.
MR. SOUTHWICK-Thank you so much. Thank you all for your time.
MR. TRAVER-All right. Is there any other business before the Board this evening before we
adjourn?
MRS. MOORE-Just a note that there's the New York Planning Federation conference on March
26th through March 28th. I know that there's two on this Board that wish to attend. Please let
me know. I can send out an e-mail notice but it's in Saratoga again.
MR. HUNSINGER-At the Hilton this year.
MRS. MOORE-Yes, the Saratoga Hilton.
MR. TRAVER-That's a multi-day.
MRS. MOORE-It's a multi-day. You can do just Monday, which I would suggest you do
Monday.
MR. DEEB-That's what I did last year. The Hilton is at?
MRS. MOORE-It's near the City Center. So it's on the other side of the City Center.
MR. DEEB-Okay.
MRS. MOORE-I'm pretty sure that's the Saratoga Hilton.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you for that, Laura, and you did send an e-mail out on that, or
you're going to?
MRS. MOORE-I will.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. All right. With that, we'll entertain a motion to adjourn.
MOTION TO ADJOURN THE QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING OF FEBRUARY
14, 2017, Introduced by Chris Hunsinger who moved for its adoption, seconded by George
Ferone:
Duly adopted this 14th day of February, 2017, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-Thanks, everybody. Have a good rest of your evening.
On motion meeting was adjourned.
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RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
STEPHEN TRAVER
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