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QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING
SECOND REGULAR MEETING
JULY 25, 2017
INDEX
Subdivision No. 7-2017 James Beaty (Hars Pars)
1.
PRELIMINARY STAGE Tax Map No. 290.5-1-50
Subdivision No. 8-2017
FINAL STAGE
Site Plan No. 27-2017 Seaton Property Holdings 1.
Special Use Permit No. 7-2017 Tax Map No. 308.16-1-55, -56, -58, & -61
Site Plan No. 31-2017 Robert Fulmer 2.
Freshwater Wetlands 3-2017 Tax Map No. 296.14-1-49
Site Plan No. 52-2017 David & Morgan Stanhope 3.
Freshwater Wetlands 4-2017 Tax Map No. 296.15-1-1
Site Plan 49-2017 Garden World Associates, LLC. (Cont'd Pg. 16)
5.
Tax Map No. 302.5-1-50
Site Plan No. 45-2017 Aviation Hospitality, LLC 5.
Special Use Permit No. 10-2017 Tax Map No. 302.5-1-96.1; 302-5-1-93.1
Discussion &Vote Planning Board Bylaws, Policies & Procedures
14.
THESE ARE NOT OFFICIALLY ADOPTED MINUTES AND ARE SUBJECT TO BOARD AND
STAFF REVISIONS. REVISIONS WILL APPEAR ON THE FOLLOWING MONTHS MINUTES
(IF ANY) AND WILL STATE SUCH APPROVAL OF SAID MINUTES.
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QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING
SECOND REGULAR MEETING
JULY 25, 2017
7:00 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT
STEPHEN TRAVER, CHAIRMAN
CHRIS HUNSINGER, VICE CHAIRMAN
GEORGE FERONE, SECRETARY
DAVID DEEB
BRAD MAGOWAN
JAMIE WHITE
JOHN SHAFER, ALTERNATE
LAND USE PLANNER-LAURA MOORE
STENOGRAPHER-MARIA GAGLIARDI
MR. TRAVER-All right. Good evening. No one in the audience. We'll call the meeting of the
Queensbury Planning Board to order. This is the second meeting of the month of July and the
15th meeting for 2017. We have some administrative items to begin with. First is Subdivision
7-2017 & Final 8-2017 for James Beaty.
ADMINISTRATIVE ITEM:
SUBDIVISION PREL. 7-2017 & FINAL 8-2017 JAMES BEATY (HARS PARS) — EXTEND
TABLING TO SEPTEMBER 2017 MEETING.
MR. TRAVER-They're seeking an extension of the tabling to a September meeting.
MRS. MOORE-So you're going to table them until the second September meeting.
MR. TRAVER-The second September. Okay. That would be the 26th
MRS. MOORE-Yes.
MR. TRAVER-All right. Is there any discussion on that extension? Okay. Then I guess we're
ready to entertain a motion.
MR. FERONE-Okay.
RESOLUTION GRANTING AN EXTENSION FOR SUBDIVISION FOR JAMES BEATY
MOTION TO EXTEND TABLING OF SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY 7-2017 & FINAL STAGE
8-2017 JAMES BEATY. Introduced by George Ferone who moved for its adoption.
Tabled to the September 26, 2017 Planning Board meeting.
Motion seconded by Brad Magowan. Duly adopted this 25th day of July, 2017 by the following
vote:
AYES: Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-Next we have another Administrative Item, Site Plan 27-2017 & Special Use
Permit 7-2017 for Seaton Property Holdings.
SITE PLAN 27-2017 & SPECIAL USE PERMIT 7-2017 SEATON PROPERTY HOLDINGS —
EXTEND TABLING TO FUTURE PLANNING BOARD MEETING
MR. TRAVER-An extended tabling to a future Planning Board meeting. Laura, don't we need a
specific date for that?
MRS. MOORE-So you're going to again table this one to the second meeting in September.
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MR. TRAVER-The same one? Okay. So that would also be 9/26 as proposed. Anyone have
any questions or concerns about that? All right. Do we have a motion?
MR. FERONE-We do.
RESOLUTION GRANTING AN EXTENSION FOR SP 27-2017 & SUP 7-2017 SEATON
PROPERTY
HOLDINGS
MOTION TO EXTEND TABLING OF SITE PLAN 27-2017 & SPECIAL USE PERMIT 7-2017
SEATON PROPERTY HOLDINGS, Introduced by George Ferone who moved for its adoption.
Tabled until the September 26, 2017 Planning Board meeting.
Motion seconded by Brad Magowan. Duly adopted this 25th day of July, 2017 by the following
vote:
AYES: Ms. White, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Deeb, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-All right. Also on the updated agenda you'll notice there is an Administrative
Item listed as the Proposed Updates to the By-Laws, Policies and Procedures. We'll move that
to the end of the agenda if we could. If the Board is even ready to proceed on that. So we'll
move to the regular item we have. The first item on the agenda is a Tabled Item, Robert
Fulmer.
SITE PLAN NO. 31-2017 FRESHWATER WETLANDS PERMIT 3-2017 SEAR TYPE TYPE
II ROBERT FULMER OWNER(S) SAME AS APPLICANT ZONING SFR-1A/MDR
LOCATION 54 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD APPLICANT PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT A
THREE DOOR, REVISED 924 SQ. FT. DETACHED GARAGE. 1 PROJECT INCLUDES
REMOVAL OF 1,800 SQ. FT. BLACKTOP PAD. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040 &
CHAPTER 94 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, WORK WITHIN 100 FT. OF WETLAND SHALL
BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. SP 34-2007, AV 39-
2007, FWW 1-2007 ALL FOR 2,050 ADDITION; AV 29-2017 WARREN CO. REFERRAL
APRIL 2017 - NCI SITE INFORMATION WETLAND LOT SIZE 3.2 ACRES TAX MAP
NO. 296.14-1-49 SECTION 179-3-040, CHAPTER 94
MR. TRAVER-And this application is also due to be tabled, until September, is this also to be
tabled to September?
MRS. MOORE-Right. The second meeting. So you will definitely have a second meeting in
September.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. All right. And there is a tabling motion on that as well, and this was, I
guess for the applicant to consider continued alterations that in his proposal.
MRS. MOORE-Correct, and you will also have to open, there's a public hearing that was
scheduled for that. So it's left open.
MR. TRAVER-Okay, and that is still open from our discussions. Correct? Or do I need to
open it tonight and leave it open?
MRS. MOORE-You're leaving it open. It's been open since May.
MR. TRAVER-Since the May 2nd meeting. Okay. Very good. Thank you. All right. Then we
have a motion
RESOLUTION TABLING SP 31-2017 & FWW 3-2017 ROBERT FULMER
MOTION TO TABLE SITE PLAN 31-2017 & FRESHWATER WETLANDS PERMIT 3-2017
ROBERT FULMER, Introduced by George Ferone who moved for its adoption, seconded by
Brad Magowan:
Tabled until the September 26, 2017 Planning Board meeting.
Duly adopted this 25th day of July, 2017 by the following vote:
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AYES: Mr. Shafer, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-All right, and then under Old Business, David & Morgan Stanhope.
SITE PLAN NO. 52-2017 FRESHWATER WETLANDS 4-2017 SEAR TYPE TYPE II DAVID
& MORGAN STANHOPE AGENT(S) JOHN R. CANNEY IV, ESQ. OWNER(S) SAME AS
APPLICANTS APPLICANT PROPOSES A NEW 3,604 SQ. FT. SINGLE FAMILY HOME,
WITH LOWER LEVEL, MAIN FLOOR, GARAGE AND SITE WORK. THE PROJECT
OCCURS WITHIN 100 FT OF A WETLAND. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040,
CHAPTER 94 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, CONSTRUCTION WITHIN 100 FT. OF A
WETLAND SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
CROSS REFERENCE 2007-337 BP VOIDED 9/2015; AV 45-2017 WARREN CO.
REFERRAL JULY 2017 SITE INFORMATION WETLANDS LOT SIZE 4.43 ACRES TAX
MAP NO. 296.15-1-1 SECTION 179-3-040, CHAPTER 94
MR. TRAVER-1 understand they have also requested to be tabled, and this application to be
tabled until the August 15th meeting. Correct?
MRS. MOORE-Correct.
MR. TRAVER-Okay, and that was basically, not because of a problem with the application, but
they didn't have represented that they wanted to attend this evening. Right?
MRS. MOORE-Correct.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
MR. TRAVER-So then, and you passed out a recent tabling motion for that.
MRS. MOORE-Also note that you will have to open the public hearing because the public
hearing has not been opened on this one.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you.
MRS. MOORE-And it will be left open, and if there's any other information that the Board feels
necessary that I can pass along to the applicant, you could do that. At one point we talked
about stormwater information and so if the Board feels that the Board may need to focus on
providing, or ensuring that there's stormwater information or details with their application, you
should mention that.
MR. TRAVER-Yes, I think didn't we request that, or, no, there was discussion about whether or
not we wanted the engineer to review that, and I think it was decided that we did not. Correct?
MRS. MOORE-Correct, but I mean in light of the fact that it is within a wetland area. It's up to
the Board, again, if they wish to have it reviewed by the engineer, but the applicant should at
least present information about the 25 year storm for residential projects, and that has not been
done yet.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. All right. Well let's take that in order, then. For the David and Morgan
Stanhope, Site Plan 52-2017 and Freshwater Wetlands 4-2017, we will open the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
MR. TRAVER-And having no one in the audience this evening, is there any written comments,
Laura?
MRS. MOORE-There's no written comments at this time.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Then we will leave the public hearing open for that, and they've
requested to be tabled to the August 15th, 2017 meeting, and question, recommendation by
Staff, do we want them to be prepared to discuss stormwater along the lines of the impacts,
potential impacts for a 25 year storm? How do the Board members feel? I remember we
discussed whether or not we wanted the Town Engineer to review it and I think we decided that
we didn't feel that was necessary, but there were concerns about stormwater.
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MR. DEEB-Well if they presented a stormwater plan, what's the sense of doing that if we're not
going to have the Town Engineer look at it?
MR. TRAVER-Well, and that was part of our discussion I think. So how does the Board feel on
that? We can have conditions, obviously, on a tabling motion.
MR. HUNSINGER-Personally I'd be more concerned about the sewer extension than
stormwater, personally.
MR. TRAVER-Well, I think we would condition that, approval would be conditioned on that in
any case, right?
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes.
MR. TRAVER-So do we want to add conditions to the tabling motion for the August 15th? The
only other concern I would have, Laura, is they've already passed the deadline for submission
for August. So if we're adding conditions, how are they going to be prepared for that
presentation?
MRS. MOORE-It's supplemental information.
MR. TRAVER-Supplemental. Okay.
MRS. MOORE-Yes.
MR. TRAVER-Clearly if we ask the Town Engineer to get involved we're not looking at anything
in August. It probably would be at least September if not October.
MRS. MOORE-Right, but I mean there's a potential of when Staff meets with the applicant, if the
applicant provides information that as Staff I feel should be reviewed at the engineer level then I
may forward it to the engineer. There's other stuff that as Staff I can review certain stormwater
elements that, you know.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. So really what you're suggesting is that we consider asking the applicant
to provide stormwater information related to the 25 year storm? Okay. Why don't we add that
as a condition, then, unless people are opposed to that.
MR. FERONE-I didn't think that was necessary. So I don't know what the Board feels like.
MR. TRAVER-Well, I remember discussion that we didn't feel that it was necessary for it to go
to the engineer, but there was concern about stormwater because we did talk about, I think Mr.
Magowan was talking about the protection of the wetlands during the construction phase and
they had offered to put double layers, as I recall, on there. So there was discussion about it, but
when I hear a recommendation from Planning Staff I'm tempted to kind of go with their
recommendation.
MR. FERONE-Sure. Yes.
MR. DEEB-And I agree with that.
MR. FERONE-I mean I understand the concern during the construction phase. It's just, I drove
by that property again. It seems to be low. I mean, there's more water that's going to run on
that property than runoff that property. Again, unless they decide to really fill.
MR. TRAVER-Well, they talked about bringing in 1500 yards of fill if I recall, and if, and I don't
disagree with you as far as the topography there, but if that's the case, then they should have
no difficulty providing information. Right? So let's add that to the condition and see if it
passes, and people can vote against it if they object.
MR. HUNSINGER-They were also going to provide additional drawings.
MR. TRAVER-Yes. Silt fencing.
MRS. MOORE-They're aware of that.
MR. TRAVER-Yes, so we should have a lot more information when they return.
MR. SHAFER-They were going to move the driveway.
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MR. TRAVER-Yes, well they had offered to do that and that would be part of the updates. Yes,
that was a big improvement.
MR. FERONE-Okay.
MR. TRAVER-All right. So are we ready for a motion?
RESOLUTION TABLING SP 3 52-2017 & FWW 4-2017 DAVID & MORGAN STANHOPE
MOTION TO TABLE SITE PLAN 52-2017 & FRESHWATER WETLANDS PERMIT 4-2017
DAVID & MORGAN STANHOPE, Introduced by George Ferone who moved for its adoption,
seconded by David Deeb:
Tabled until the August 15, 2017 Planning Board meeting.
The motion is also conditioned that the applicant will provide stormwater management
documentation covering a 25 year storm event.
Duly adopted this 25th day of July, 2017 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-All right, and next we have on our agenda under Old Business, Garden World
Assoc., LLC, Site Plan 49-2017
SITE PLAN NO. 49-2017 SEAR UNLISTED GARDEN WORLD ASSOCIATES, LLC
OWNER(S) SAME AS APPLICANT ZONING CI LOCATION 537 AVIATION ROAD (SILO)
APPLICANT PROPOSES 400 SQ. FT. DECK WHERE EXISTING 270 SQ. FT. EXISTING
DECK WILL BE REMOVED. NEW DECK IS TO ACCOMMODATE EXISTING 8 TABLES (16
SEATS) AND TO ADD TWO NEW TABLES (4 SEATS). THE PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES A
NEW 64 SQ. FT. ENTRYWAY OVER AN EXISTING RAMP. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-
3-040 & 179-4-080 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, EXPANSION OF OUTDOOR DECK FOR
SEATING AND ADDITION OF COVERED ENTRY SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING
BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE 1995 ROOF; 1996 INT. ALT.,
1999 GREENHOUSE DEMO., 2000, 2012 INT. ALT.; AV 44-2017 WARREN CO.
REFERRAL JULY 2017 SITE INFORMATION TRAVEL CORRIDOR OVERLAY ZONE LOT
SIZE .76 ACRES TAX MAP NO. 302.5-1-50 SECTION 179-3-040, 179-4-080
MR. DEEB-They're not here.
MRS. MOORE-And they're not here.
MR. TRAVER-And they're not here. So maybe they heard we were in the process of tabling
some applications. All right. Well let's, we'll leave that one for now and we'll move ahead to
Aviation Hospitality, LLC Site Plan 45-2017 & Special Use Permit 10-2017.
SITE PLAN NO. 45-2017; SPECIAL USE PERMIT 10-2017 SEAR TYPE UNLISTED —
COORDINATED AVIATION HOSPITALITY, LLC AGENT(S) BOHLER ENGINEERING
OWNER(S) PCGF NEWCO, LLC ZONING ESC LOCATION 524 AVIATION ROAD
APPLICANT PROPOSES CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW 62,620 SQ. FT. (FLOOR AREA), 4
STORY, 92 ROOM HOTEL WITH ASSOCIATED PARKING. PROJECT INCLUDES A
CONNECTOR ROAD ON ADJOINING PROPERTY TO AVIATION MALL RING ROAD.
HOTEL WILL BE LOCATED ON A PARCEL OF GREATER THAN 2 ACRES. INCLUDED IN
THE PROJECT WILL BE A LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT BETWEEN 302.5-1-96.1 AND 302.5-1-
93.1 WITH THE FORMER REDUCED TO 2.0 ACRES AND THE LATTER TO BE INCREASED
TO 4.31 ACRES. PROJECT INCLUDES WORK WITH AMBROSIA DINER FOR ACCESS AS
LOT DOES NOT HAVE ROAD FRONTAGE ON ROUTE 254. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER
179-9-040 & 179-10 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, NEW COMMERCIAL USE IN THE ESC
ZONE SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS
REFERENCE DEMOLITION PERMITS FOR FORMER HOWARD JOHNSON BUILDINGS
2002, 2005 & 2010; SP 40-2008, SP 29-2009, DISC 6-2017, AV 42-2017, SV 6-2017, SP 47-
2017, SP 48-2017 WARREN CO. REFERRAL JUNE 2017 LOT SIZE 4.57 ACRES, 1.74
ACRES (UTILIZING 2.5 ACRES) TAX MAP NO. 302.5-1-96.1, 302.5-1-93.1 SECTION
179-9-040, 179-10
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CHARLES DUMAS & JOSH O'CONNOR, REPRESENTING APPLICANT, PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-Hello again, gentlemen.
MR. DUMAS-Hello.
MR. TRAVER-Welcome back.
MR. DUMAS-Thank you.
MR. TRAVER-When we last spoke you were off to the Zoning Board.
MR. DUMAS-It was a good evening.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Very good. Well, welcome back and do you want to give us an overview
of where we're at, and state your name for the record again, I'm sorry.
MR. DUMAS-Sure. Yes, Charles Dumas. I'm an attorney with the Lemery Greisler law firm. I
have with me Bhavik Jariwala who is the managing member of Aviation Hospitality, Mark
Nadolny with Creighton Manning Engineering and Josh O'Connor with Bohler Engineering.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
MR. DUMAS-Yes, we were here on the 18th. You granted a Negative Declaration. You
approved two components of the project, consisting of the modification to the Ambrosia Diner
site plan to reconfigure that driveway out onto Aviation Road, and you also approved the
modification to the Aviation Mall site plan to enable the connector road down to the ring road.
You referred us to the Zoning Board. We went to the Zoning Board the following night and
received approval for the three signs on the building, the setback from Aviation Road as to the
monument sign, and the variance that was required as to frontage because we had a keyhole
lot if you will.
MR. TRAVER-Right.
MR. DUMAS-So we're back here this evening. We would hope to have our Special Use Permit
granted, our lot line adjustment granted and Site Plan approved. I recall I think last time we
were here there was some question about lighting, and I think, Chris, I think you were interested
in talking about lighting.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, right.
MR. DUMAS-We're prepared to do that this evening, and answer any other questions you might
have about the site plan and the process.
MR. TRAVER-So, just to refresh, we have reviewed this project actually a couple of times, and I
won't even count when it was proposed at the other exit, but in any case, as a result of your
meeting with the ZBA there were no changes to the project. What we have before us remains
what is proposed.
MR. DUMAS-Essentially, yes.
MR. TRAVER-All right. Thank you.
MR. O'CONNOR-Mr. Traver, with an exception. The detail we talked about, recognizing there
is some discrepancy in the size of the signs. All of the signs as approved were in a smaller
sign.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
MR. DUMAS-And that's what was applied for.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. So there was just some confusion in the drawing then.
MR. O'CONNOR-That's right. The smaller sign is shown on the elevation. That was approved
in three instances.
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MR. TRAVER-Okay. Very good. Thank you for that clarification.
MR. DUMAS-And we were, it was suggested to us by the ZBA that if during the course of
construction we needed to return for modification to the size of one of the signs they would
entertain that.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. And then, Laura, you'll need updated plans to reflect that, right?
MRS. MOORE-Yes. As part of their final plans they will submit the updated sign information
and the locations.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. All right. Well, let's talk about the lighting issue that Mr. Hunsinger was
concerned about. There was some spots on the lighting plan, well, go ahead. You were
evidently coming prepared to discuss that. What are you offering?
MR. DUMAS-I'd like to turn that over to Josh.
MR. TRAVER-Sure.
MR. O'CONNOR-The specific concern as it was read, and pardon me if I don't understand it,
was in regard to the porte cochre and the down lighting.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes.
MR. O'CONNOR-My impression would be that, well, if you could speak, what is your specific
concern?
MR. HUNSINGER-Well, it was too bright.
MR. O'CONNOR-The lighting is developed in consideration of providing, the essence of it is it's
lit as an exterior space to an extent, not as bright. It's for life safety, and so that people can see
into the trunks of vehicles for unloading, disembarking, etc. This is the Hilton standard with an
exception. We actually have two fewer lights than the Hilton standard for this canopy, and it is
also the same package that we had at Exit 18. It's the same lighting package for under the
canopy.
MR. HUNSINGER-So you have some hot spots that are, I'll just read the ones I highlighted.
One's 29, 1 can't tell if it's .7, 33, 35, and 39.
MR. O'CONNOR-Okay.
MR. HUNSINGER-And just for reference a gas station canopy that we recently approved, the
brightest that that is, and I would think that under a gas canopy where you have to read your
ATM card would need to be brighter than underneath this where you're just getting out of your
car.
MR. TRAVER-Yes, you're handling volatile fuels.
MR. HUNSINGER-The brightest location identified is 18.9.
MR. O'CONNOR-Okay.
MR. HUNSINGER-So there's quite a distance between that and, you know, 39. It's almost
double.
MR. O'CONNOR-Yes, and that does seem high.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes. So that was my concern.
MR. O'CONNOR-1 think that's a fair concern. We can look again at how it's modeled.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay.
MR. O'CONNOR-It may be how the grid is rotated in the modeling. It may be that we have a
light that's not selected correctly.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay.
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MR. O'CONNOR-We can look again at that.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, I mean, there's been multiple times when we've had discussions about,
especially with the LED lights where they say, yes, we can just swap out, you know, with over
wattage.
MR. O'CONNOR-Is there a lighting number that you provide, you know, is there any direction
you can provide us as far as a target?
MR. TRAVER-What if we were to say 20 max?
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, and in looking at this again I had missed some that were 36 and 30.
Part of the concern is, and it might sound kind of silly, but you go right from 2.3, and these are
the readings just immediately outside of the porte cochere, 2.3, then you hit 4.9, then you hit
something I can't read and then you hit 35. So within a very short distance you go from pretty
dim to very bright, and that's really the concern.
MR. O'CONNOR-Okay.
MR. HUNSINGER-So if there's a way to, I mean, I don't know if 20's the right number.
MR. O'CONNOR-We can take a harder look at that. I'm not an expert at lighting.
MR. HUNSINGER-And I'm not either.
MR. O'CONNOR-So I'm remiss to over promise on this one. I can say we will take a hard look
at it and be more sensitive to those hot spots and that sharp increase. I don't see a reason why
we can't reach a more reasonable level under the canopy.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. Great. That's all I was looking for. The rest of the lighting I thought
looked fine. It fades right out when you get to the property line and within the parking area,
we're looking at reasonable numbers. You hit 9.7 and 10 that are directly underneath the lights.
I don't think that's unreasonable.
MR. O'CONNOR-We'll look at that.
MR. HUNSINGER-All right. Thanks.
MR. TRAVER-All right. Thank you. Any other questions or concerns?
MR. SHAFER-Yes, I have a question about internal signage. At what point, and maybe it's
already finalized on your site plan, will some of the internal signs be finalized? For example, I
noticed at the beginning of the connector road over to the Aviation Mall there's a sign that says
proposed turn sign west on Route 254. I'm not sure people will know Route 254 in their heads
very well, certainly I'm not sure people staying at the Hotel who don't live around here.
MR. O'CONNOR-Right.
MR. SHAFER-Obviously people turning left out of the Hotel, left out of the Aviation Mall traffic
signal are headed toward the Northway. So I would ask you to take a hard look at the internal
signage from the standpoint of the people staying at the Hotel. How will they need to be guided
to wherever they're going? If they're going to Lake George and they don't want to go up Route
9, obviously they should go the Northway.
MR. TRAVER-Yes.
MR. SHAFER-And I don't see any signs that say 1-87.
MR. O'CONNOR-Understood.
MR. SHAFER-1 don't see it on this drawing.
MR. O'CONNOR-They are not on there, Mr. Shafer.
MR. SHAFER-Okay. Out at the end of the driveway for the Hotel with the right turn, you can
only take a right turn onto Aviation Road, there should be a sign there that says right turn only.
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MR. O'CONNOR-We will, as I understand it, as far as the highway directional signage, we are
going to need to provide signage around this intersection that directs people down our
connector road for 87 and for westbound on Aviation Road in particular, and we don't show that
now. We will need to have that on the next iteration.
MR. SHAFER-Out at Aviation you should be right turn only. So people don't try to sneak
through there and make a left like we do now.
MR. O'CONNOR-That would be part of the DOT, that sign would be standard with DOT. Yes,
we will have that sign.
MR. TRAVER-Any other questions or concerns on the Site Plan and Special Use Permit?
Well, hearing none I guess we're ready for a motion.
MR. HUNSINGER-1 guess it's worth adding, you know, since we focused on so few things, I
mean, I really like the design and the color scheme.
MR. DUMAS-The Home2 is a really neat product. It's crisp, it's clean and it's appropriate. I
think the color scheme for this particular part of the area is really quite appropriate.
MRS. MOORE-The public hearing is still left open from last week.
MR. TRAVER-And we have already done SEAR.
MRS. MOORE-You did SEAR. We included just so you had it as a reference. That's why it's
in there.
MR. TRAVER-Very good. All right. Well, if there are no more questions, and there's no further
written comments?
MRS. MOORE-No written comments.
PUBLIC HEARING OPEN
NO COMMENT
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR. TRAVER-Then we'll close the public hearing on this and entertain a motion.
MR. FERONE-Motion to approve Site Plan 45-2017 and Special Use Permit 10-2017 for
Aviation Hospitality, LLC, Introduced by myself, according to the draft resolution prepared by
Staff. We do have waivers.
MRS. MOORE-There were no waivers this time.
MR. FERONE-No waivers. Conditions are final site plan is to cover signage size issues so they
are consistent. The applicant will also attempt to review lighting under the portico in relation to
brightness.
MR. TRAVER-All right. We have a motion. Do we have a second?
MR. MAGOWAN-Second it.
MRS. MOORE-1 will note that the waiver that's noted is the applicant has proposed 10% interior
landscaping where 15% is identified. So it's a landscaping waiver. So there was one.
MR. TRAVER-We'll amend that motion.
MR. MAGOWAN-I second the amended motion.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. We have a motion made and seconded. Any discussion?
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, I mean, the only discussion is, is there a number that we want to put on
the lighting?
MR. TRAVER-Yes, I mean, you had pointed out the number of a recent canopy for fueling is 18,
and they were advocating that they wanted it virtually household lighting for unloading trunks
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and so on. So the number that came in my head was a max of 20. That's, but that was purely
arbitrary.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes. Do you have any suggestions?
MR. DEEB-You have to remember, too, that it's pretty well off the road, the site itself.
MRS. MOORE-It is off the road.
MR. DEEB-So I wouldn't care if it were a little higher than 20. Because I don't think it's going to
have that big of an effect.
MR. FERONE-1 think as long as you were going to look at it because there's such a variance.
MR. O'CONNOR-And this is where we do need to speak with a lighting professional on this, and
the architect has someone we can talk to. I think it's important that we, and again, being
personally ignorant of what the standard is, that we provide lighting that's consistent with
National Standards for lighting this type of exterior space, and again, not having those numbers
in hand, I don't want to say 20 if the insurable appropriate standard is 22. 1 just don't know
what that number is.
MR. HUNSINGER-All I know is we have had multiple conversations in sort of detail with gas
stations, you know, the canopies, the gas station canopies and we hear, you know, this is the
national standard, this is the safety standard insured, and there's been a lot of discussion about
that.
MR. O'CONNOR-My gut would be that that's appropriate.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes. Right, but I'm like you, you know, if it comes out at 24 or 25, that's a lot
better than 39.
MR. O'CONNOR-Sure.
MR. HUNSINGER-So I don't know if there's a number per se.
MRS. MOORE-1 mean, you can say less than 39, and that's a valid number.
MR. MAGOWAN-Or say less than 30.
MR. FERONE-That's what I was going to say.
MR. DEEB-Well you don't know what the national standards are. None of us know what the
national standards are.
MR. HUNSINGER-Well, we know what the Town Code is, though.
MR. MAGOWAN-Well, I know what they're trying to achieve. When people come off the road
from driving in the dark it's inviting to see this brightness, you know, and they're half asleep
getting their stuff out of the back of the car. It doesn't spill over, you know, it doesn't spill out
from the canopy. I think maybe the lighting they picked in there for the height of the canopy
might be the intensity of it. Because it's not a far spill out on it.
MR. TRAVER-Well, and it's possible it's a programming error in generating the light plan.
Maybe they put in the wrong.
MR. FERONE-That's what I thought.
MR. TRAVER-1 mean, I think if they've offered to look at it. It doesn't seem to jive with what
we've seen in other examples. So, you know, the odds of it just being a glitch I think are not
insubstantial, but I'm not opposed to putting a number on it either. I just think it might be putting
them in a difficult situation.
MR. DEEB-As Laura said, you could say under 39. 1 think you could even say under 35. I'm
35 is way too much at this point. I mean, if you say under.
MR. HUNSINGER-No matter what number we select it's going to be arbitrary.
MR. DEEB-It's going to be an arbitrary number. There's nothing we can do about that now.
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MR. O'CONNOR-But that said, I think it would be fair to say that we will address the lighting and
look at it in light of national standards, and verify that it complies with accepted lighting rates for
this type of application.
MR. HUNSINGER-Well my issue is you should be looking at it in light of the Town Code.
MR. O'CONNOR-Okay.
MR. HUNSINGER-And, you know, the national standard might be, although I know the lighting
plans were, when the lighting ordinance was adopted we apparently used national standards.
That talks about 10.
MRS. MOORE-So automobile, I'll throw these up these up here. Automobile lots are, the
guidance is 20. So is it going to be brighter than an automobile lot?
MS. WHITE-Twenty sounds appropriate, then.
MR. HUNSINGER-So is that an average, though, Laura?
MRS. MOORE-Yes.
MR. HUNSINGER-So you might not be far off from that now.
MR. TRAVER-Well that was the number that was in the back of my head for some reason,
traveling around, was 20.
MS. WHITE-Well now you know why.
MR. TRAVER-All right. So where are we on that? We want to put something in the resolution.
MRS. MOORE-And it says loading and unloading areas.
MR. TRAVER-And that's Town Code?
MRS. MOORE-That could be interpreted as loading, unloading for delivery vehicles or is it
unloading and loading for other items?
MR. TRAVER-Well these are delivery vehicles. They're delivering humans and their cargo.
MR. HUNSINGER-So what's it say?
MRS. MOORE-It says 20.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay.
MR. SHAFER-Average?
MRS. MOORE-Right.
MR. TRAVER-And that's Code?
MRS. MOORE-Yes.
MR. DEEB-So as long as it's consistent with Town Code we should be okay.
MR. O'CONNOR-Yes.
MR. DUMAS-One would think.
MRS. MOORE-Let me just clarify. The Board has the opportunity to give guidance to the
applicant what value you'd like to see. If you feel that it's similar to another application, if you
feel like an automobile lot is a value that you can comprehend and visualize and you want to
give that guidance to the applicant you can. So it's a discussion between you and the applicant
and the Board because there's discretion given to the Board.
MR. TRAVER-Well, if we say that it meets Town Code, that should cover it. Right?
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MRS. MOORE-But it's not specified.
MR. TRAVER-All right. So we're back to 20 again.
MRS. MOORE-Less than 39, greater than 20.
MR. MAGOWAN-Let's put a number on it and they'll make it work.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, that's an average lumens underneath the canopy.
MRS. MOORE-Correct.
MR. MAGOWAN-Twenty-seven point two nine.
MR. HUNSINGER-Well, what the Town Code says is 20.
MR. TRAVER-All right.
MR. MAGOWAN-Yes, but the problem is, you know, an auto mart there, you know, looking at a
vehicle, you're not looking for your daughter's pacifier that fell underneath the seat after
traveling eight hours to come here, you know. You need a little bit more light. So, you know,
personally it's a little high but it doesn't spill out and it's bright. You might end up putting a
dimmer on it anyway. So really I say anything under 30, and you've got to put a number on it.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Well, we've got a couple of numbers bouncing around. We've got
anything under 30 and we have Code guidance which is 20. What's the feeling of the Board?
MR. DEEB-I tend to agree with Brad.
MR. TRAVER-Anything under 30?
MR. DEEB-30.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
MR. DEEB-Because you're talking average.
MR. TRAVER-Right. Understood.
MR. HUNSINGER-So what do you want to say no spot greater than 30?
MR. TRAVER-Yes, right.
MR. MAGOWAN-No spot greater than 30.
MR. TRAVER-No spot greater than 30.
MR. O'CONNOR-That's very reasonable.
MR. DEEB-That would work.
MR. HUNSINGER-And I'll bet your average is going to be close to 20. Because you have
spots that are within the entrance, they're not within the porte cochre that are 9.5, 9.7.
MR. O'CONNOR-1 think that's reasonable.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Let's try that motion again, then.
MR. HUNSINGER-Well, we can just amend it.
MR. FERONE-We'll modify the motion that the applicant.
MS. GAG LIARDI-Excuse me, but it would be clearer for me if you could just do the motion over.
Thank you.
MR. FERONE-For you, Maria.
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MR. TRAVER-Anything for Maria.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SP #45-2017 & SUP 10-2017 AVIATION HOSPITALITY, LLC
The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board proposing construction of a
new 62,620 sq. ft. (floor area), 4 story, 92 room hotel with associated parking. Project includes
a connector road on adjoining property to Aviation Mall ring road. Hotel will be located on a
parcel of greater than 2 acres. Included in the project will be a lot line adjustment between
302.5-1-96.1 and 302.5-1-93.1 with the former reduced to 2.0 acres and the later to be
increased to 4.31 acres. Project includes work with Ambrosia Diner for access as lot does not
have road frontage on Route 254. Pursuant to Chapter 179-9-040 & 179-10 of the Zoning
Ordinance, new commercial use in the ESC zone shall be subject to Planning Board review and
approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-080, the
Planning Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the
Zoning Code;
As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to
the Warren County Planning Department for its recommendation;
The Planning Board has reviewed the potential environmental impacts of the project, pursuant
to the State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA) and adopted a SEQRA Negative
Declaration — Determination of Non-Significance
The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 07/18/2017 and
continued the public hearing to07/25/2017, when it was closed,
The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all
comments made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including
07/25/2017;
The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and
standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval,
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN 45-2017 & SPECIAL USE PERMIT 10-2017 AVIATION
HOSPITALITY, LLC; Introduced by George Ferone who moved for its adoption.
According to the draft resolution prepared by Staff with the following:
1) Waivers requested granted; 10% landscaping
2. Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution.
a) The limits of clearing will constitute a no-cut buffer zone, orange construction
fencing shall be installed around these areas and field verified by Community
Development staff;
b) If applicable, the Sanitary Sewer connection plan must be submitted to the
Wastewater Department for its review, approval, permitting and inspection;
c) If curb cuts are being added or changed a driveway permit is required. A building
permit will not be issued until the approved driveway permit has been provided to the
Planning Office;
d) If application was referred to engineering then Engineering sign-off required prior to
signature of Zoning Administrator of the approved plans;
e) Final approved plans should have dimensions and setbacks noted on the site
plan/survey, floor plans and elevation for the existing rooms and proposed rooms in the
building and site improvements;-
f) If required, the applicant must submit a copy of the following to the Town:
a. The project NOI (Notice of Intent) for coverage under the current "NYSDEC
SPDES General Permit from Construction Activity" prior to the start of any site
work.
b. The project NOT (Notice of Termination) upon completion of the project;
c. The applicant must maintain on their project site, for review by staff:
i. The approved final plans that have been stamped by the Town Zoning
Administrator. These plans must include the project SWPPP (Storm
Water Pollution Prevention Plan) when such a plan was prepared and
approved;
ii. The project NOI and proof of coverage under the current NYSDEC
SPDES General Permit, or an individual SPDES permit issued for the
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g) Final approved plans, in compliance with the Site Plan, must be submitted to the
Community Development Department before any further review by the Zoning
Administrator or Building and Codes personnel;
h) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of
Building Permit and/or the beginning of any site work;
i) Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on
compliance with this and all other conditions of this resolution;
j) As-built plans to certify that the site plan is developed according to the approved plans to
be provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy.
k) This resolution is to be placed in its entirety on the final plans
1) Final site plan will cover signage sign issue.
m) The applicant will comply that lighting under the portico will not be greater than 30 foot
candles
Motion seconded by Brad Magowan. Duly adopted this 25th day of July, 2017 by the following
vote:
AYES: Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-All right. You're all set.
MR. HUNSINGER-Good luck.
MR. DEEB-Good luck.
MR. DUMAS-Thank you.
MR. DEEB-Where's Troelstra? They aren't here. They know they're supposed to be here,
right?
MRS. MOORE-Yes.
MR. MAGOWAN-1 want to thank you guys for picking a better spot. I'm so happy that you
pulled out of 18 and brought it up here.
MR. TRAVER-There's still no sign of our friends from Garden World. Should we?
MRS. MOORE-You can move forward on your discussion about your By-laws, and then I'll give
them a call.
MR. TRAVER-And see if they come. All right. We did, in reviewing the agenda and discussing
it with Laura, I did ask her to give her a draft resolution to approve the changes that I proposed
to the By-laws and the Policies and Procedures, if the Board is ready to move on that. It
seemed like tonight with a lighter agenda it might be a good time to review and act on those if
the Board is ready. So I don't know what the will of the Board is on that, or if you've had a
chance to read those.
MS. WHITE-1 didn't see anything that was, other than what we talked about.
MR. TRAVER-That was my goal.
MR. FERONE-1 had a question. So it says the annual meeting of the Board shall be the last
regular meeting in the month of December each year. At such time the Planning Board shall
elect officers and conduct such other business as is necessary. Now in the sense of electing
officers, the secretary and vice chair are fine, but isn't the Chair a recommendation to the Town
Board that has to be approved.
MR. TRAVER-It is.
MR. FERONE-Should that read as such?
MR. MAGOWAN-1 didn't get mine.
MR. TRAVER-One of these? Sorry. It was e-mailed. I have it somewhere I'm sure. I mean,
I wrote it so I know what it says. Yes, it is still an election. The Board is still electing that
position. It's affirmed by the Town Board. It does, it is in the way of an election. I also sent
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this to both the Town Supervisor and the Code Enforcement Officer and I didn't get any
questions on that. I wanted to let them know that we were considering, potentially considering
this, but I think my thought is that the meeting is clear, but certainly the Board can change the
language.
MR. FERONE-1 would say if they didn't have any problems with it, then.
MR. TRAVER-I'm not aware of any. Laura, do you see any problem with that wording? Okay.
All right. I mean, the intent is that we have it done at a specific time, that the members of the
Board and the public for that matter know in advance when it's going to take place. That was
one of the concerns. The By-laws were incorrect to begin with because they had the annual
meeting in January, which would be kind of late. Now the one thing I did consider, to address
your concern about the chairmanship, I put something in there to the effect that at the
organizational meeting, which is the first meeting in January, we would affirm the officers,
because there might be, the Town Board might have somebody else take over as chairperson.
So at that point we would say, okay, we're going to acknowledge that here are the officers of the
Planning Board for 2018 or whatever year it happens to be, and then the policies and
procedures I just changed to reflect the detail of how that would take place, the idea that it
would be the responsibility of the chairperson to poll the current officers, find out if they wanted
to be re-considered for another term. If not, and we had talked about, and I looked at the By-
laws and the chairman does have the ability to create committees. So basically if there was an
officer that said, you know what, I really don't want to do it anymore, then likely the chairperson
would make them the chair of the nominating committee that would then try to speak to others
who might want to be in that office for the following year, likewise the chairperson if they
decided they didn't want to continue to serve then they would announce and likewise there
would be a nominating committee created that probably the outgoing chairperson would chair or
somebody that would try to come up with a candidate that would be put on the ballot for the
chairmanship, and the other concern was, you know, things can happen between November
and the last meeting in December. So I put in there highlighted I think that in any, no matter
what happens with the existing officers or nominating committees, there still are nominations
from the floor before any voting takes place. So there's quite a number of different and
transparent ways, I believe, that candidates for the various offices can be voted upon. I mean,
that was kind of the goal, and also to layout a time line so people would be clear as to when it
was going to happen and what was going to happen, and that's what I said I would do.
MR. MAGOWAN-1 think you did a very nice job.
MR. DEEB-Good job, Stephen. There's a lot of contingencies. You did a good job.
MR. TRAVER-Well then if the Board feels comfortable with this, there is a draft resolution. I
see Mr. Magowan didn't get one. It was e-mailed out today, I believe.
MRS. MOORE-The resolution was but the information was in the earlier packets. The
resolution is new today.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Yes. So we do have a draft resolution. If people are okay with that we
can go ahead and move on that, I guess, Mr. Secretary.
RESOLUTION RE: UPDATE TO PLANNING BOARD BYLAWS, POLICIES & PROCEDURES
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Planning Board adopted Bylaws, Policies and Procedures
(hereinafter "Bylaws") on April 24, 2001, and
WHEREAS, these Bylaws were last amended on October 17, 2006, and
WHEREAS, Section III(C)(5) defines an annual meeting to be the first regular meeting in the
month of January of each year, and Section III(C)(6) defines procedures to be followed at such
meeting, and
WHEREAS, at a workshop meeting on June 27, 2017 the Planning Board agreed to make
changes to the annual and organizational meetings, and
WHEREAS, in discussion at the regular meeting of July 25, 2017 the Planning Board
determined that it prefers to hold the annual meeting on the last regular meeting in the month of
December of each year, along with additional procedures to be followed at such meeting.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
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That the Town of Queensbury Planning Board hereby amends Section III(C)(5) of its Bylaws to
read as follows:
"The annual meeting of the Board shall be the last regular meeting in the month of
December of each year. At such time the Planning Board shall elect officers and
conduct such other business as is necessary."
That the Town of Queensbury Planning Board hereby amends Section III(C)(6) of its bylaws to
read as follows:
"The annual organizational meeting of the Board shall be the first regular meeting
in the month of January of each year. At such time the affirmation of the officers shall
take place, new members of the Board are recognized, the dates of regular meetings
for the upcoming year shall be designated and the Planning Board shall conduct
such other business as is necessary."
That the Town of Queensbury Planning Board hereby amends Section I under Policies and
Procedures to read as follows:
IA. Annual Meeting
As the presiding officer of the Planning Board, the Board Chairperson shall endeavor to
ensure that there is continuity in the leadership of the Board in the form of it's' officers. By the
final meeting of the month of November, the Chairperson shall poll the current Vice-Chair
and Secretary to ascertain whether they wish to be nominated to serve for another term. At
the final meeting of the month of November, the Chairperson shall announce their own
intentions as to whether they wish to serve another term as Chairperson.
Any officer willing to serve another term will be placed in nomination by the Secretary at the
Annual Meeting prior to the vote. Note that at the Annual Meeting prior to any voting the
floor will also be open to any additional nominations for any office to be voted upon.
When all nominations have been made, the Chairperson will close the nominations and move
that the voting take place. If there are no additional nominations for any office, the Board my
vote on the entire slate of officers.
In the event that an elected officer does not intend to accept nomination, the Chairperson shall,
no later than the final meeting for the month of November, appoint a Nominating Committee to
select a candidate to be nominated for that office at the Annual Meeting. Any Nominating
Committee thus created shall report their results to the Secretary and the Board by the first
meeting in December. At the Annual Meeting, the Secretary shall place in nomination the results
of any Nominating Committee. Note that at the Annual Meeting prior to any voting the floor
will also be open to any additional nominations for any office to be voted upon.
When all nominations have been made, the Chairperson will close the nominations and move
that the voting take place. If there are no additional nominations for any office, the Board my
vote on the entire slate of officers.
IB Organizational Meeting
Prior to the Organizational Meeting in January, all new members shall receive copies of the
following items;
- Planning Board Bylaws
- Policies and Procedures
- Town of Queensbury Comprehensive Land Use Plan
- Copy of the Town of Queensbury Code
- Zoning Map
Educational materials as received from time to time will also be distributed. Amendments or
revised documents will be distributed upon final adoption.
Per the Planning Board Bylaws, the annual meeting will serve to recognize officers for the year,
new members and adopt the proposed meeting schedule for the year.
The Planning Board shall also conduct such other business as is necessary.
Resolution introduced by Chris Hunsinger who moved for its adoption, seconded by George
Ferone.
Duly adopted this 25th day of July, 2017 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. TRAVER-All right. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. And then regarding Garden
World, we've already missed our 7:30 deadline. So do we want to table them to August 15th
or do you want to reach out to them and find out why they are missing?
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MRS. MOORE-1 was just trying to find a phone number I could depend on.
MR. DEEB-I don't think it's fair for us to wait for them to get here, either.
MR. TRAVER-Yes. I think they've missed their window on that, Laura. So I think at this point
we're looking at a tabling motion.
MRS. MOORE-Okay. And you can table them to the first or second meeting in August. It's
fine.
MR. TRAVER-And I apologize. I did not have a chance to look at the draft thing. I had a
contract that was all over the house.
MRS. MOORE-The first meeting there is now four items. This would be the fifth item.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Then if the Board has no objection, why don't we table Site Plan 49-2017
to the August 15th agenda, and we can entertain a motion to do that.
RESOLUTION TABLING SP #49-2017 GARDEN WORLD ASSOCIATES., LLC
The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board for Site Plan approval
pursuant to Article 9 of the Town zoning Ordinance for: Applicant proposes 400 sq. ft. deck
where existing 270 sq. ft. existing deck will be removed. New deck is to accommodate existing
8 tables (16 seats) and to add two new tables (4 seats). The project also includes a new 64 sq.
ft. entryway over an existing ramp. Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040 & 179-4-080 of the Zoning
Ordinance, expansion of outdoor deck for seating and addition of covered entry shall be subject
to Planning Board review and approval.
MOTION TO TABLE SITE PLAN NO. 49-2017 GARDEN WORLD ASSOCIATES, LLC,
Introduced by John Shafer who moved for its adoption, seconded by Chris Hunsinger:
Tabled to the Queensbury Planning Board meeting of August 15th
Duly adopted this 25th day of July, 2017, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
MR. HUNSINGER-1 would just point out, I'm not going to pick on Staff because it's the Board's
responsibility as well. In the application, in the general information, there's no phone numbers
or e-mail address or anything.
MRS. MOORE-He's been called. I know that there's a card in the Zoning Board file. That card
did not get placed in this file.
MR. HUNSINGER-Well, it's the applicant's responsibility to fill out the application.
MRS. MOORE-I've called him and said you need to come in and complete this application.
MR. HUNSINGER-Okay.
MRS. MOORE-So I have made that call.
MR. DEEB-The onus isn't on us. It's on them.
MR. TRAVER-All right. Then before we adjourn the only thing I would ask is, Laura, can you
have Staff update the Bylaws, Policies and Procedures and send the updated version to all of
us and post it on the Town website?
MRS. MOORE-Yes. We can do that.
MR. TRAVER-Thank you. Is there any other business before us this evening? Well, then we'll
entertain a motion to adjourn.
MR. HUNSINGER-So moved.
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MR. FERONE-Second.
MOTION TO ADJOURN THE QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING OF JULY 25,
2017, Introduced by Chris Hunsinger who moved for its adoption, seconded by George Ferone:
Duly adopted this 25th day of July, 2017, by the following vote:
AYES: Ms. White, Mr. Deeb, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Ferone, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
On motion meeting was adjourned.
MR. TRAVER-We stand adjourned. Thank you, everyone.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Stephen Traver, Chairman
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