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REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING MTG #2
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JANUARY 9, 2006 BOH RES. #1-2
7:00 P.M. RES. #42-55
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT
SUPERVISOR DANIEL STEC
COUNCILMAN ROGER BOOR
COUNCILMAN RICHARD SANFORD
COUNCILMAN JOHN STROUGH
COUNCILMAN TIM BREWER
TOWN OFFICIALS
Marilyn Ryba, Executive Director of Community Development
Jennifer Switzer, Budget Officer
Mike Shaw, Director of Wastewater
Craig Brown, Zoning Administrator
Chris Hunsinger, Planning Board Chairman
Charles Abbate, Zoning Board of Appeals Chairman
Robert Vollaro, Planning Board Member
Thomas Ford, Planning Board Alternate
PRESS: Glens Falls Post Star, TV-8
SUPERVISOR STEC called meeting to order…
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCILMAN ROGER BOOR
SUPERVISOR STEC presented Mr. Ralph VanDusen, former Water/Wastewater
Superintendent with an award in recognition of his thirty-three years of dedicated and
distinguished service.
RESOLUTION CALLING FOR
QUEENSBURY BOARD OF HEALTH
RESOLUTION NO.: 42, 2006
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Roger Boor
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns
from Regular Session and enters as the Queensbury Board of Health.
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Duly adopted this 9 day of January, 2006, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Stec, Mr. Boor, Mr. Sanford, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
QUEENSBURY BOARD OF HEALTH
DEPUTY TOWN CLERK BARBER read the following into the record:
Supervisor Daniel Stec
Town of Queensbury
742 Bay Road
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Queensbury, NY 12804
Re: Ronald and Jo Ann Taylor
Septic Variance
Dear Supervisor Stec:
As you are aware our office represents Ronald and Jo Ann Taylor with regard to
the septic variance that they have requested for their property on Waters Edge
Drive. The application has been substantially modified to include an aerobic
system as was requested by Councilman Boor. Due to the scheduling conflicts,
the applicant requests that this matter be tabled until the first Town Board
Meeting in February. We apologize for any inconvenience.
Very truly yours,
Jonathan C. Lapper
COUNCILMAN BOOR-A couple of comments. We don’t normally discuss these before
setting the public hearing but I think as we move forward, I think when there’s something
we think is going to be problematic, we’re doing the applicant a favor by pointing it out
so that they don’t come here spending a lot of money for their attorneys, engineers and
whoever other people they might bring in the professional field. Having read through the
application, it became clear to me that I wouldn’t be comfortable with the third bedroom
that they’re now seeking. We’re talking about a property on Lake George that’s a little
over a tenth of an acre, it’s going to be all they can do I think to put any kind of modified
improved septic in there. I don’t want to give them the impression that a third bedroom is
something that I’m probably going to be able to live with. That’s not to say, my mind
couldn’t be changed but it’s very problematic and I just think it’s important that they
understand that. The other question, I didn’t think a printer could go that small and I’m
referring to the drawings on this, these things are really, really hard to read. It might be
helpful if we got a bigger drawing also.
Town Board agreed to amend resolution to reflect new date of hearing….
RESOLUTION SETTING PUBLIC HEARING ON SEWAGE
DISPOSAL VARIANCE APPLICATION OF
RONALD AND JO ANN TAYLOR
BOARD OF HEALTH RESOLUTION NO.: 1, 2006
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board serves as the Town’s Local Board of
Health and is authorized by Town Code Chapter 136 to issue variances from the Town’s
On-Site Sewage Disposal Ordinance, and
WHEREAS, Ronald and JoAnn Taylor have applied to the Local Board of Health
for variances concerning their property located at 14 Waters Edge Road, Queensbury, from
Town Code Chapter 136 to install a new Elgin bed, multi-flo aerobic treatment septic
system:
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1.82.’± from Lake George instead of the required 100’ setback;
2.5’± from the west property line instead of the required 10’ setback; and
3.10’ from the south property line instead of the required 10’ setback; and
WHEREAS, another variance is requested from Chapter 136, §136-10(9), which
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sets forth that “side slopes of fill shall be graded to a slope not steeper than vertical on
three horizontal,” and Mr. and Mrs. Taylor propose constructing a vertical retaining wall
around the septic system,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town of Queensbury Local Board of Health will hold a public
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hearing on Monday, February 6, 2006 at 7:00 p.m. at the Queensbury Activities Center,
742 Bay Road, Queensbury, to consider Ronald and JoAnn Taylor’s sewage disposal
variance application concerning property located at 14 Waters Edge Road, Queensbury (Tax
Map No.: 227.17-1-28) and at that time all interested persons will be heard, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Local Board of Health authorizes and directs the Queensbury
Town Clerk to publish the Notice of Public Hearing presented at this meeting and send a
copy of the Notice to neighbors located within 500 feet of Mr. and Mrs. Taylor’s property as
required by law.
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Duly adopted this 9 day of January, 2006, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Boor, Mr. Sanford, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION TO ADJOURN QUEENSBURY
BOARD OF HEALTH
BOARD OF HEALTH RESOLUTION NO.: 2, 2006
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Roger Boor
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Richard Sanford
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Board of Health hereby adjourns and enter
Regular Session of the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury.
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Duly adopted this 9 day of January, 2006, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Stec, Mr. Boor, Mr. Sanford, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
REGULAR SESSION
HEARING – Raymond Hippele’s Application For Variance/Waiver Request From
Sanitary Sewer Connection Requirement Concerning Mt. Royal Plaza Property
Located At 959 State Route 9
SUPERVISOR STEC-If the owner is here, do you want to come to the microphone. The
town, just for the benefit of the public, we will grant up to a two year extension to people
that are in a sewer district to tie in, more often then not it’s timing of construction or
whatnot. Our code does provide for this and at the same time, applicants will be paying
as if they were tied in so there’s no financial advantage as far as what’s the town
collecting in the sewer district but it may be a financial advantage to the applicant for
timing their work. Again, this is on State Route 9 and it is the Mt. Royal Plaza and he’s
looking for a one year extension. Do you have anything that you’d like to add?
MR. RAYMOND HIPPELE-Not really, we’ve only owned the plaza for three months
and basically, we got a letter from Mike Shaw explaining that we needed a variance and
that’s what we applied for.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Okay, any questions from Town Board Members? I’ll entertain a
motion.
RESOLUTION APPROVING RAYMOND HIPPELE’S APPLICATION
FOR VARIANCE/WAIVER REQUEST FROM SANITARY SEWER
CONNECTION REQUIREMENT CONCERNING MT. ROYAL
PLAZA PROPERTY LOCATED AT 959 STATE ROUTE 9
RESOLUTION NO.: 43, 2006
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Roger Boor
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Richard Sanford
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board is authorized by Town Code Chapter 136
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to issue variances from 136-44 “Connection to sewers required” which requires Town
property owners situated within a sewer district and located within 250’ of a public sanitary
sewer of the sewer district to connect to the public sewer facilities within one (1) year from
the date of notice, and
WHEREAS, Raymond Hippele applied to the Town Board for a variance/waiver
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one-year extension
from 136-44 for a of the Town’s connection requirements to connect
his Mt. Royal Plaza property to the Town of Queensbury’s Route 9 Sewer District, as Mr.
Hippele states that the property is serviced by a fully-engineered sewer system designed by
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Haanen Engineering which system was installed new in 1995 and is currently functioning
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flawlessly, as set forth in Mr. Hippele’s December 12, 2005 application, and
WHEREAS, the Town Clerk’s Office mailed a Notice of Hearing to Mr. Hippele
and the Town Board conducted a hearing concerning the variance/waiver request on January
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9, 2006,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that
a) due to the nature of the variance/waiver request, the Queensbury Town Board
determines that the variance/waiver would not be materially detrimental to the
purposes and objectives of Queensbury Town Code Chapter 136 and/or
adjoining properties or otherwise conflict with the purpose and objectives of any
plan or policy of the Town of Queensbury; and
b) the Town Board finds that the granting of the variance/waiver is reasonable and
would alleviate unnecessary hardship on the applicant; and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby approves Raymond Hippele’s application
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for a variance/waiver from Queensbury Town Code Chapter 136, 136-44 “Connection to
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sewers required” and grants a one-year extension of time or until January 9, 2007 in which
to connect the Mt. Royal Plaza property located at 959 State Route 9, Queensbury (Tax Map
No.: 296.13-1-18) to the Town of Queensbury’s Route 9 Sewer District, provided that if
there is any increase in septic use or additional bathroom facilities added, then such variance
shall immediately terminate unless the Queensbury Town Board review and approves a new
application for a variance/waiver, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorizes the Town Supervisor, Wastewater
Director, Deputy Wastewater Director and/or Budget Officer to take any actions necessary
to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 9 day of January, 2006 by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Sanford, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Boor
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
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CORRESPONDENCE
DEPUTY TOWN CLERK BARBER noted that the Town Clerk’s Office has received
and filed the 2005 yearly report from the Landfill Department and December monthly
report from the Building and Codes Department. The Town Clerk’s Office has also
received and filed a Notice of Order from the State of New York Department of
Transportation establishing a NO PARKING any time on the west side of State Route 9L
adjacent to Stewart’s at it’s intersection with State Route 149.
INTRODUCTION OF RESOLUTIONS FROM THE FLOOR - NONE
PRESENTATION–Charlie Brush–Green Mt. Development Group–Cedars Phase II
MR. CHARLIE BRUSH-My number is Charlie Brush, Green Mt. Development Group
and the owner of Cedars senior living community off Bay Road here and I’m just here
tonight, we’ve got a map and plan report which was submitted to you about a month ago
that we really would like you to act on to extend the sewer line north from Walker Lane
up to the intersection of Blind Rock Road. We’re prepared to fund the construction of
the line along with the BRB Group however we’ve got a time constraint placed on us
from our funding through Department of DHCR for the affordable housing units and I
think you got a letter in your package which pretty much lays out what our situation is.
The bottom line is, if we’re going to do this, fine, let’s do it, if we’re not going to do it,
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let’s not do it, we just have to know because as of June 1 we will not be able to move
forward if there’s not a decision. So I think it’s an opportunity for the town, it’s an
opportunity for us; I think nothing but good comes of it. So I’m just asking you if we
could move it along to meet the schedules of other people which were beholding to, I’d
appreciate it.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Just to let you know where I think it is right now. I know that we
got it in December and I know that our wastewater guy Mike Shaw and our Attorney
reviewed it thoroughly. There were some questions, modifications that they wanted to
see done; I believe that that’s been done so the town just got those revisions right around
the holidays. So, I know that we’re reviewing it right now, I’m not aware of any problem
on our end as far as reviewing the map, plan and report and getting it for public hearing I
think in the near future.
COUNCILMAN TIM BREWER-Are our attorneys reviewing it?
COUNCILMAN BOOR-No, they haven’t reviewed it.
SUPERVISOR STEC-I thought they had.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-No, they haven’t reviewed it.
SUPERVISOR STEC-And I thought we were reviewing it.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-No, they haven’t reviewed it.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-My understanding was, we have to authorize them to
review it.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Yes.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-I had a conversation with our attorneys on that and they
will not review it until they’ve received Board authorization to do so. That was my
conversation with Bob.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Is there a reason why we won’t authorize them?
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COUNCILMAN BOOR-What’s that?
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Is there a reason why anybody doesn’t want to authorize
them?
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Well, have you read it?
COUNCILMAN BREWER-That’s why we’re having the attorney review it.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-No, we’re supposed to review it, you should understand that.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Well I understand that but let’s let them review it for us and
point out any problems or
COUNCILMAN BOOR-I think I have some issues that I’d like them to look into Tim
and they can’t look into those issues if I don’t point them out.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Okay, well when were we going to discuss the issues?
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COUNCILMAN STROUGH-Well we’ve got until June 1, right?
COUNSEL MICHAEL O’CONNOR-No.
COUNCILMAN STROUGH-Well, we’ll certainly accommodate you before that.
MR. BRUSH-We’ve got some initial permitting to do besides, I believe, if you vote us up
or down, then we’ve got construction drawings and some other DEC permits that we’ve
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got to get before we can do that. We’ve got to have all that in our hand by June 1. So,
you’re the first step but we can’t move further unless we’ve got your approval.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-I’m a little confused here, just a couple of quick questions.
MR. BRUSH-Sure.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-As I understand it, you’re doing sort of, there’s two parties
that are willing to pay for this extension, you and BR is it?
MR. BRUSH-BRB.
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-The BRB Group which is what my representation is.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-Okay, now BRB does not have an approved project. It’s
questionable whether they have a project at all at this point in time in front of the
Planning Board. I know on three prior occasions they came in front of the Planning
Board and their project was discouraged. I guess my question is, if that project doesn’t
happen for whatever reason, are you willing to go forward with this sewer extension all
by yourself?
COUNCILMAN BOOR-That’s for Mr. Brush. That’s the other thing I want to ask
before we go any farther because I have some questions that I’d like to delve into as far
as fiduciary responsibilities and I would first start by asking you, as far as Phase I of the
Cedars, when did you do that?
MR. BRUSH-I think we’ve been there about two and a half years.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Okay, so the Professional Office Zoning as we know it now was
in place when you did that because we approved that in 2002 and to your credit Charlie,
you recognized the intent of the Professional Office Zoning and you’re in compliance as
is Mr. Schermerhorn and others who have built in that corridor since Professional Office
Zoning was established. When we tried to make a change to that Professional Office
Zoning, your attorney sitting next to you and the attorney that represents, at the time,
BRB had a protest petition circulating and it was successful at getting enough signatures
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to cause this Board to have to have a super majority moving forward. So, I can say with
pretty good assurance that probably three members of this board; actually, let me back up
a little bit because I think there’s some important points that should be made. For those
that have been attending the PORC Committee meetings and the meetings that have to do
with the revisions of the Comprehensive Land Use Plan, at the last meeting, one of the
most important and telling statements made by the Saratoga Associates was that
developers want, deserve and need clear guidelines, zoning and up until the BRB has
made the proposals that they have made, the intent has been recognized by you and
others. It was only when Mr. O’Connor came into the picture did he find what can be
called a loop hole, it can be called what ever you want it but he has been trying to push
his project through using the notion that you can build apartments right onto Bay Road.
That’s not the intent as I understand it, that’s not the intent when we adopted it, I don’t
believe it’s the intent today. So, you’ve got a tough decision to make because if Mr.
O’Connor decides to do another protest petition, I can tell you that three members of this
board will not, will not approve that sewer and so it’s a dilemma. You either need to get
another attorney that’s going to represent your best interests or you can stay with Mr.
O’Connor and hope he doesn’t do a protest petition.
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-May I respond?
SUPERVISOR STEC-Yes.
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-First, BRB Group has not made any applications for housing on
Bay Road, it’s Albany Partners which is a separate entity from BRB and I think what
we’re talking about is a separate issue. We’ve talked about sewering Bay Road for the
last fifteen years. Every Town Board that has sat here, every Town Board Member has
said that it would be a good thing to do and our proposal to you is by BRB Group and the
Cedars group right now and that proposal is that we will sewer the remainder of Bay
Road up to the corner of Haviland Road and Bay with out costs to the town at our
expense. That is not dependent upon what happens to the site that is BRB site. You are
presented in that report which is probably where you’re getting your questions from or
your concerns, with the worst case scenario or the heaviest demand that there might be
from each parcel. There’s no saying that that is the demand that is actually going to be
built. If we didn’t show you the worst case scenario or the heaviest demand from each of
those parcels, I think you would be legitimate in saying, well what happens if this
happens. What happens to that parcel is up to your Planning Board.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Actually its up to this Town Board, we are the only ones that
can make zoning changes or affirm the zoning that we believe is in place and let me, let
me counter here a little bit here because you have mischaracterized something. You’re
saying that you have given the worst case scenario, I say that you haven’t. The worst
case scenario is that you would prevail and that apartments would be allowed to be built
right on Bay Road and projects such as Mr. Schermerhorn’s that are now commercial
could be turned into apartments. Bannon, could be turned into apartments. The ten acres
that Mr., the publisher, James Marshal owns, five of it’s in the Professional Office
Zoning. You only account for one house on that property in this map, plan and report.
How many apartments could you put on that property if the zoning allows apartments to
Bay Road?
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-Okay, the report that you have it shows at full build out of Bay
Road.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-According to our zoning as we believe it exists, not as you
would like to change it.
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-No, I’m not, the zoning is what it is, you have before you, I
understand you have scheduled a public hearing to change the zoning.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-No, we have clarification and I’d like to read you a document
from our Marilyn Ryba. Town of Queensbury proposed zoning amendment; number 1,
what need is being met by the proposed zone change for the new zone? The propose
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change clarifies, clarifies the intent of Professional Office. Should I continue or would
you like to
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-Well, that’s contrary, with due respect to Marilyn, that’s
contrary to what the Town Attorney’s opinion is. It’s contrary to what your Planning
Board has said. The Planning Board has said that the present zoning does allow
apartments up to Bay Road but they do not believe that that fits within the general
scheme of the Bay Road design and they have indicated clearly that they will not permit
that type project.
COUNCILMAN STROUGH-No, what the Planning Board said was they believe that
apartments should be allowed in Professional Office with a thousand foot setback, is
exactly what they said.
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-Okay, you’ve got members of the Planning Board sitting right
behind me and they can speak for themselves.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-We have a member right here that was on the Board.
COUNCILMAN STROUGH-And I’ve got the Planning Board Resolution.
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-Okay.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-But aren’t we talking about sewer here rather then
apartments?
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-We’re talking about sewering Bay Road.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-I think we are Tim. I guess what my point was which
hasn’t been yet successfully addressed was, if the corner of Blind Rock and Bay Road
turns out only Professional Office could be built there because of or for whatever reason,
because of setbacks, etcetera, etcetera, no apartments does that justify BRB or Albany
Partners or whoever they’re being called right now, to make the expenditure that’s being
contemplated here?
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-I think that’s my answer, and yes we think that it would benefit
the town; we think it would benefit that property, whatever is developed on there to have
sewers. We have a window of opportunity right now because of Mr. Brush’s project
which is below us to share the expense of that and we can put it together. We’re not
conditioning this upon the zoning as we think it is presently or as you may think it to be
in the future.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-The only thing that contradicts that most recent statement
you made is if you review this report, there are very detailed financial numbers in terms
of how the cost will be allocated among the two parties and it’s based on capacities and
usages and things of that nature.
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-No it is not.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-Well basically what I see is the
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-The cost sharing which is spelled out, it’s a public document so
I don’t need to worry about conflict, contradiction.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-Well, what I’m trying to say is, it’s certainly not a fifty fifty
split in terms of the cost sharing; it’s not what I saw in this report.
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-The buy-in is something, okay, the construction costs are fifty
fifty.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-Yes.
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COUNSEL O’CONNOR-The buy-in is based upon need and flow and that will be
determined by rates that the town sets as it does with anybody that comes along.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Mike, I think you know we can really probably cut to the chase
because you said, the only troubling comment you made is you didn’t care whatever was
put there. So that really doesn’t say you’ve got, that you’re not going to put apartments
there. If you do not challenge, let me finish, if you do not challenge the zoning
clarification that we’re going to make, I don’t think this Board is going to have a problem
with you sharing the cost of running that sewer up there. That’s pretty simple.
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-I think the reaction to your proposed zoning where you’re
basically are taking away property rights, is completely separate from whether or not the
property is sewered or not sewered. If you’re tying the two together, I think that that is
inappropriate but that’s, you can choose what you want.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-And you can run for office and you can represent the public, is
what I think this Board is trying to do; we’re trying to protect the public’s best interest.
We do not sell zoning to the highest bidder.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-But Roger
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-We’re not talking
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Roger where the
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-You’re talking about
COUNCILMAN BREWER-I’ve got to interrupt for one minute because we’re talking
about sewer and we’ve been after sewers since you’ve been on this Board, since I’ve
been on this Board, since Fred Champagne, Steve Borgos. If they want to take the risk
and put the sewer in the ground, what do we care? Let the Planning Board do their job,
let us do our job and except the sewer. Richard, I see you shaking your head and that’s
okay but
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-I will not be an enabler to a
COUNCILMAN BREWER-How do you figure that’s an enabler?
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-I will not be an enabler to a hundred and sixty-five
apartment complex project, that has been the intent, that has been the intent every time
they’ve been in front of the Planning Board.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-And like you said, every time they’ve been to the Planning
Board they’ve been discouraged so let them take the chance.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-Well, discouraged so, discouraged.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-So shouldn’t we relieve them of that burden?
COUNCILMAN BREWER-I don’t think you’re doing the right thing here fellows.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-How many times do you want them to go to the Planning
Board?
COUNCILMAN BREWER-I think you’re blackmailing somebody.
SUPERVISOR STEC-I thought we were here to talk about the Cedars.
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-Let me offer this thing here
COUNCILMAN BREWER-That’s what you’re doing.
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MR. BRUSH-Looks like I’m in the middle of something.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Sorry Charlie.
SUPERVISOR STEC-I apologize Charlie.
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-We have a window of opportunity to fund the project. You
setting a date for public hearing and then conducting the public hearing doesn’t mean that
you make a determination. I think that everything will unfold and it will go, you’re going
to have some certainly one way or another and what we’re asking you to do is start the
process. We understand that the Town Sewer Department, I would characterize it as that
has reviewed it. They’ve made some suggestions to the map, plan and report. Those
changes and modifications have been made; they’ve been submitted to Mike Shaw as
well as to the Town Clerk. We had an initial review by the Town Attorney and we
answered those comments and I think we’ve answered those, whether he’ll have
additional comments after he looks at the amended map, plan and report I don’t know. I
think that this is a project that will serve not only these two properties; there are other
properties along that stretch who may very well want to come into it. There are some
that have existing septic problems. We know that there’s a property to the north of us
who would like to hook into the town sewer at the intersection of Haviland and Bay Road
as opposed to the route that has been suggested where they go over behind the Town
Office Building and hook into some place over on Schermerhorn’s site. The difference to
them is running a line fourteen hundred feet as opposed to twenty-five hundred feet and
that’s because they have an existing problem. The sewer line is not going to dictate
what’s on that site and you’re not going to be an enabler as to what’s on that site. If you
change the zoning on that site, we probably would amend the map, plan and report
simply to have a less buy-in costs. We have put the buy-in costs as we’ve calculated it,
again, being most conservative using the worst case scenario. If that’s not going to
happen and I understand the strong feelings that some have that may say that it’s not
going to happen ultimately, then this project, not the construction portion of it, but the
buy-in portion of it will be much less substantial.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Let me add something that perhaps you’re not aware of, in as
much as I became aware of it about 3:30 this afternoon through a series of emails, it’s
come to our attention that the building that we’re sitting in, the building over there in the
highway department, the septic system failed. It’s kaput and what I’m going to suggest
to Surrey Fields is that the town help share the costs and in fact that we use the
Schermerhorn suggestion, we can greatly reduce the previous costs that was associated
with that. I think the town’s responsibility is to pay for that portion of it themselves, they
get immediate satisfaction and they don’t have to wait perhaps as long as they would to
connect to the Bay Road sewer and would ultimately be much less.
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-We had offered as part of our preliminary discussions with this
sewer extension to extend the line to the Town Hall at our expense, as part of our
construction. If you see the construction costs that we have, that would not be a great
deal of money which would mean the town would have sewer to the building without
costs.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-I guess my concern is that the individuals of Surrey Fields who
are in my ward have been in incredible strife for a very long time, they’ve received very
little satisfaction of parties involved. I think this is a perfect opportunity for the town to
step up to the plate and give them the most immediate and expedition correction to a
terrible problem and I think if the septic system in this building stays failed for a little
while, I think maybe there will be a real appreciation for what the individuals of Surrey
Fields have gone through for the last three or four years. And I think it’s going to be less
expensive to them, the town needs an immediate fix I would expect and Schermerhorn
has offered to allow us to hook in and that doesn’t mean we don’t want the Bay Road but
I don’t think that that’s now the best alternative.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-Why don’t we leave it this way, I think we should know
probably by early March where we’re going to stand in terms of the rezoning of
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Professional Office space which will have some kind of an impact one way or another on
the corner of Bay Road and Blind Rock, I’ll talk to you then.
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-You’ve just killed the project.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Richard, you’re speaking for yourself.
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-Because we have, we probably have a two month time line
with DEC.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Don’t say you’re speaking for the whole Board.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-I don’t think I said I was speaking for the whole Board.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Well, you insinuated that.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Alright, let me interrupt here gentlemen. Charlie, again, I
apologize I thought we were going to talk about your timeline for your project.
MR. BRUSH-I know.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Could you let us know, what is your, I mean you threw out a June
1 date, somebody asked if June 1 was okay and you said no. Can you give us your best
estimate? Just for our knowledge, I mean whether we can accommodate you or not, is
another matter but let us know what you think your issue is.
MR. BRUSH-Well as I sit here right now, I think we’ve got to start construction and
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building by June 1 from our deal with DHCR. So, and DHCR is not into, they need to
know exactly what’s happening, okay. So, we can’t kind of say, well maybe this, maybe
that, it’s got to be, we have to have a definitive answer yes or no, we’ve got to start by
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June 1. The best I can tell you right now is, it looks to me as though June 1 is my, if
you will drop dead date.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-I don’t see where you can’t meet that Charlie and short of a
protest petition being filed, you’re going to have plenty of opportunity. We unfortunately
don’t control if somebody files one of those petitions and we have to protect the interest
of the town.
MR. BRUSH-I really don’t want to get into the middle of this fight.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-And you shouldn’t be in the middle and you shouldn’t be in the
middle of it Charlie, and that’s the shame of it.
MR. BRUSH-Right and you know, I mean I’ve done, I’ve been developing for twenty-
five years so you know, there’s nothing I haven’t seen yet I don’t think. You know, take
me, split Mike and I apart here right now, okay, this is going to be good for us because
we don’t want to have the same sewer problems Surrey Fields had and Baybrook had
down the road there ten years out, that’s why we want to do this. I’ve got a permit to put
an onsite sewer in there and do it, okay and it meets every engineering standard and it
does everything, it’s the greatest thing since sliced bread.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Takes up a lot of space so and it’s
MR. BRUSH-It does the whole deal but it’s a better solution.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-I agree.
MR. BRUSH-Everybody understands it’s a better solution to put it into the pipe, get it
discharged into a sewer plant that’s going to be better. The Surrey Fields thing, it will
solve their problem. I know there’s another solution to that, but you know, we’re going
to
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COUNCILMAN BOOR-Look it, I’m for sewering, period.
MR. BRUSH-Right, this fight over the BRB property, you know, if you can separate
them in two, I think it’s better. I understand where you’re going, I get it but I’m just here
to say to you if you’re issues roll over to the time that puts me behind it, then I won’t be
in the deal, maybe BRB can do it on their own, I don’t know but I’ll be out.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Well see Charlie, just so that you know the problem with a
protest petition is that it requires a super majority. Can’t guarantee it.
MR. BRUSH-Super majority of the Board to make the change.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-I don’t know what you’re saying, Roger.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-What’s that?
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Clarify for me if, what you’re
SUPERVISOR STEC-I’d rather stay focused on this.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-No.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-What I’m saying
COUNCILMAN BREWER-I don’t know understand what he’s saying as if, as if they
don’t file a protest petition, you’re willing to go ahead with the sewer, is that what you’re
saying?
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Absolutely because our zoning will stand. As Marilyn filled out
the forms, the zoning as we believe it exists will stand. If he protests that he says no, I
think it should be this, it requires four of us to over
COUNCILMAN BREWER-So, you already know how everybody is going to vote.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-And I don’t know how you’re going to vote so I can’t put
COUNCILMAN BREWER-You just got through saying it wouldn’t pass.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Well listen, I can’t put the, I can’t put the public in jeopardy.
SUPERVISOR STEC-No, he said he didn’t know. He said he didn’t know.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-I can’t put the public in jeopardy, Tim.
SUPERVISOR STEC-He did say he didn’t know whether it would pass.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Roger that project, in all honesty has nothing to do with
sewer. Let the Planning Board do their job, we’re doing our job.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-He can’t do it without sewer, Tim.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-He can’t do the project.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-What do you mean he can’t do it without sewer?
COUNCILMAN BOOR-He can’t put those, he can’t do a, he can’t put a hundred and
seventy-four, a hundred and seventy-five apartments
COUNCILMAN BREWER-So then he doesn’t do it. I don’t care whether anybody puts
apartments there or not.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-I know you, that’s the issue Tim.
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COUNCILMAN BREWER-What I’m concerned about is the sewer.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Okay.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-Well we do care.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-We do care, we do care.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-We care, I care, I cared when I was on the Planning Board
and I care now and when I campaigned for office I talked with a lot of people and they
cared as well. I want to preserve the Bay Road corridor, the vision that was established.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-And you can do that by the zoning that’s in place. Is there a
guarantee that he’ll get an approval; is that what you’re saying?
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-What I’m saying is it could be easily resolved if the
rezoning or the clarification of the rezoning takes place in a prompt matter.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-It’s not a clarification though, it’s a rezoning.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Alright, Bay Road for a minute, Roger brought up one point that I
want to make sure we address before, while it’s fresh in my mind. Is the Board
comfortable with as far as the septic email that I sent you about this place here telling him
to just limp along, patch it and we’ll tie in to the sewer. I mean, I think that’s what we
would like to do.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-I didn’t get it.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-I would like to move forward with Schermerhorn.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Whether it’s that way or that way, we would prefer though to
sewer, I need to let him know.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-I don’t think we can wait, I don’t think we can wait and I don’t
think Surrey Fields wants to wait any more.
SUPERVISOR STEC-No, but you’re saying don’t fix it.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-If this goes, if this goes like clock work they’re not going to get
it for quite a while.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Right, so I’m just, for us tell Chuck to head towards a plan for
ultimately sewer.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-And my preference would be
SUPERVISOR STEC-I know but I’m just
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Okay, absolutely.
SUPERVISOR STEC-I mean that’s a side issue.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-I don’t know what you’re talking about Dan because I didn’t
get
SUPERVISOR STEC-You didn’t see your email yet. I got an email from Chuck Rice
and the folks from Surrey Fields will probably appreciate this as Roger eluded that we do
have a failed septic field here at the town and so the question had been, if they bring
sewer up here, would the town tie into it and six months ago the town was saying well
we’ve got good septic, we don’t need to tie in. Now, we’re in a position that we don’t
have good septic and Chuck wants to know, do I want, do we want him to you know, fix
it, i.e. with a permanent septic solution or fix it with the idea that you know, sooner rather
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then later we’re going to tie into sewer. I’m hearing, I think the smart thing to do is to,
you know if we’re going to have sewer somewhere around here whether it comes from
the east or from the south, we’re going to have sewer. But I wanted to, you didn’t see
that yet so you
COUNCILMAN BREWER-See what our options are, we’re going to explore that right?
SUPERVISOR STEC-Yea, well I mean he doesn’t need an answer tomorrow but we
can’t, you know we have a septic issue.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-No, I understand, we’ve got to do what we’ve got to do.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Or we can live the life of many people at Surrey Fields.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Well no, we’re going to fix both problems.
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-Okay, as I understand the sewer extension, there ultimately is
an agreement that is signed by the Town Board after the public hearing, holding a public
hearing is not the approval by the Town Board and what I’m talking about is starting the
process of the public hearing.
SUPERVISOR STEC-And hold the vote?
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-It doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re going to sign, you’re
going to vote to sign an agreement or that you’re going to enter into an agreement. But
my understanding from the engineers is that after we go through this process, we then
have about a month to do actual construction drawings. We don’t have actual
construction drawings at this point. We then have to go to DEC and that takes probably
two months with good timing to get DEC’s approval. So, asking for this now is not
unrealistic or is probably more in line with being able to have the permits in hand in June
so that
COUNCILMAN BOOR-What exactly do you want Mike; you want us to give, make our
recommendations to the attorneys as we see the map, plan and report?
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-Yes, and see if they
COUNCILMAN BOOR-And then, and then what else would you like us to do?
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-Set a date for public hearing.
SUPERVISOR STEC-And then whether or not we’re comfortable voting at that point, at
least we’ve gotten the public hearing ball rolling.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-After we discuss with attorneys.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Right we could have the public hearing and then if we’re not
comfortable with the timing, because whether, right or wrong, whether we want to make,
tie A and B together or put A in front of B or B in front of A, the bottom line is what
you’re saying is, we know it’s going to take a Town Board Meeting to set a public
hearing, to have a public hearing and we may not need to vote.
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-Even at this point, if you’re setting and I don’t expect
necessarily that you’re going to set your public hearing tonight
SUPERVISOR STEC-Well we won’t tonight.
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-Okay, but even when you set your public hearing its probably
going to be on the other side of the public hearing which is set for the
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SUPERVISOR STEC-Yes, the 23.
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COUNSEL O’CONNOR-January 23 on your rezoning.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-The only issue Mike is that and Marilyn you can help me out
with this, as far as Warren County approval on this clarification, that won’t come until
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like the 30 of February.
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COUNCILMAN STROUGH-No, the 14.
MS. MARILYN RYBA, Executive Director-No, it comes sooner. I don’t have their
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dates in front of me but I think they’re meeting February 8 so it would come at a point
after that.
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SUPERVISOR STEC-I can guarantee it won’t be the 30 of February.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-No, I guarantee that too.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Good point.
SUPERVISOR STEC-That will never happen.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-We also need, actually they have, my understanding is they
have thirty days from when we send them the referral to get back to us. If they don’t do
it within thirty days, we can act without actually having their recommendation.
MS. RYBA, Executive Director-Right but they have outlined what their date is which is
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the 27 of January so it’s thirty days from the, so even if I gave it to them earlier, that
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doesn’t kick in because their rule is the 27 of January.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Alright, I personally see, I can see how they’re linked together. I
certainly can see how one can either enable, or change the other but the idea of do I think
bringing sewer up to this corner is a good one, I think it is.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Absolutely.
SUPERVISOR STEC-But I can see how the use can be tied to whether sewers are there
or not, I can understand that.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-And see this, Mike if a protest petition was filed and it was
successful, this map, plan and report isn’t accurate any more. It doesn’t reflect that
apartments could be, that commercial
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-It reflects, it reflects my understanding of the present
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Yea, present but not future.
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-No, no, no let me finish if I can. It reflects correctly the present
planning of the Albany Partners Group.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-Sure.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Yea but I’m talking about Schermerhorn’s medical, I’m talking
about all, I’m talking about Valente’s properties, if those are done as apartments, they’re
not reflected in the gallons per day flow in this report.
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-Okay Valente and Schermerhorn’s properties that you’re
speaking of are below that.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-But they’re on this, but it’s what can be, Cronin, you know
where the bottle neck is and I do too and there’s a potential that we could run out of the
ability
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COUNSEL O’CONNOR-Okay but would not those properties go through the same site
review process that this other
COUNCILMAN BOOR-I’m talking about capacity issues here.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-We’re talking about the infrastructure costs of the diameter
of the sewer pipe line. On the Planning Board we were always kind of taught to look at
maximum potential impacts. What Roger is saying is that if the zoning is not changed
then we’re not only concerned about the corner of Blind Rock and Bay Road but we’re
concerned with the whole Bay Road corridor which could be theoretically
COUNCILMAN BOOR-All apartments.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-All changed and converted from what it now which is the
vision which is professional office into a whole sea of apartments and that would perhaps
COUNCILMAN BOOR-And that’s not reflected in here.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-And that would perhaps be an impact that the sewer line
could not handle.
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-The same review guidelines would apply to those attempts to
make conversions that is applying to the present attempt to develop vacant land.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-We’re going to disagree.
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-Well, unless you’re going to have different rules for different
people
COUNCILMAN BOOR-That’s what you’re seeking Mike and that’s the problem.
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-No, that’s not. That’s not, let’s stay away from that except in
the sense that
COUNCILMAN BOOR-I’m sure you would like to.
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-No, I don’t no, I mean I think we understand that the Planning
Board has said that the Bay Road corridor design requires Professional Office spaces, or
office use along Bay Road and the issue is
COUNCILMAN BOOR-A thousand feet.
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-No, I don’t know if they have said a thousand feet.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-You should know.
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-The issue is how deep is that going to be. Is there going to be
two hundred feet, three hundred feet, five hundred feet, I think the last time around the
proposal was to make it five hundred feet.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-And I would have to guess that you wish you hadn’t filed that
protest petition at this point in time.
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-No, I’m not, see you’re mixing the two but
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-Listen we don’t know a lot of things right now, we’re going
to probably know a lot more in the near future. Until I feel comfortable with this, I’m
not prepared to act on it. I don’t want to be disrespectful to you Mr. Brush, I’m sorry, but
that’s just the reality of it and then there’s other complications. If the rezoning for
instance changes don’t take place and the project on the corner of Bay Road and Blind
Rock gets presented then we have a whole SEQRA process to go through, I really want to
see resolution on that parcel of land prior to commitment on sewer. Now, I’m speaking
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for myself, I’m not speaking I’m sure for Mr. Brewer, probably not for Mr. Stec but
that’s my opinion and it’s just the way I feel about it.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Charlie, is there anything else?
MR. BRUSH-No.
COUNCILMAN STROUGH-Charlie, I want to add you’ve got a nice project there. I
was on the Planning Board if you remember and you’ve got a nice project and I think
Phase II will be a nice deal and if everything works out right, everything will work out
right.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Is that right?
COUNCILMAN STROUGH-Yea.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Now that logic is hard to argue with John.
COUNSEL O’CONNOR-Good evening.
MR. BRUSH-Thank you for your time and hopefully we can get a good resolution of this
for everybody’s benefit.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Thank you Charlie and give me a call sometime if you’d like.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Thank you for coming over from Vermont, Charlie, I appreciate it.
OPEN FORUM
7:43 P.M.
MR. PLINEY TUCKER, 41 Division Road-Referred to the discussions regarding the
Professional Office Zoning and questioned whether it applied to other areas in town?
SUPERVISOR STEC-Yes, there’s a couple of other areas in town.
MR. TUCKER-Questioned whether there was any on Luzerne Road?
SUPERVISOR STEC-No, I don’t think so.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-I think there’s a small section on Western Avenue and Sherman.
MR. TUCKER-Referred to site on Luzerne Road across from Wisconsin Avenue where
there’s a storage unit and questioned whether that was PO Zoning?
COUNCILMAN BREWER-No, that’s zoned Light Industrial.
MR. TUCKER-Referred to newspaper article noting the approval of $175,000.00 for the
Town Attorney for expenses.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-That’s the ceiling. It’s not a retainer; the paper was not
completely accurate.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Cap is a better word. We renewed their contract for the same base
dollar amount number as their last contract, yes.
MR. TUCKER-What do we get for that $175,000.00?
MR. SANFORD-Mr. Tucker, the attorney reimbursements or fees is a complicated issue.
The $175,000.00 is not what we pay per year in legal costs. One component to the
contract calls for no more then a certain amount to be paid each month, that amount is in
that proximity of one seventy-five. In addition, if they litigate or if they handle
assessment legal matters they get paid an additional amount above and beyond that. In
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addition, the Town of Queensbury also has a confidential legal secretary that we have on
salary and that position is also funded. The total legal costs to the town is significantly
higher then the one seventy-five, try doubling it.
SUPERVISOR STEC-The terms of the contract Pliney are not significantly different to
the terms when you were on the Town Board.
MR. TUCKER-The legal secretary you were talking about or legal aid or whatever that
does most of the work, she’s an expense of the town itself?
SUPERVISOR STEC-She’s a town employee outside of that, that’s correct.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-Now we’re taking measures to hold the line on our legal
expenditures and we’re hoping to reduce them but to give you an idea of what it’s costing
the Town of Queensbury is about a $1,000.00 a day for legal expenditures, is what it’s
costing the Town of Queensbury.
MR. TUCKER-I sat there where you guys are sitting and my personal feeling is, if you
have to ask that attorney whether you can do anything or not, you shouldn’t be doing it.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-It should be pointed out that we do not have attorney tonight
because we felt, we all conveyed and spoke with each other and we felt that we didn’t
think there was an issue that would require them. We certainly have that option when we
review our packets, if we think there’s something where we’re going to need legal help,
we will certainly have them here but to be paying them hourly when in fact we may not
need them is probably not in the public’s best interest. We’re going to be looking at
spending throughout the town.
MR. FRANK KELLY, President of Surrey Field Home Association-What great news
I’ve heard today, you join the club with a failed system. I hope you don’t have to wait
two years to get it resolved. I just want to make it a point to let you know that it probably
be easy if I were doing this sitting from your view point, I can produce a set of plans that
you can put that system in tomorrow because our system is drawn up both ways.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-I would encourage you that you drop that off with Supervisor
Stec as early as possible.
MR. KELLY-I’m very happy to see the way this is going but I want to make a statement
as to when, I have to get this squared away in 2006. If this gets into litigation and the
long, we’re going to sit for another year with three failed systems over there. That means
they’re coming out of the ground and that means, I happen to have one of them and it’s
been three years I’ve been sitting there watching what I put in it, it’s not an easy thing to
go through, I can assure you. And these are all senior citizens over there and I certainly
think they should have some consideration as far as moving this project down the road so
that it can be resolved sometime in 2006.
MR. PETER BROTHERS, Ward 1-Referred to the town’s Fire and EMS rate of eighty
cents per thousand assessed value and with regard to West Glens Falls Fire facility that is
being proposed would recommend fire districts where residents in the specific district pay
for their own facility… Referred to resolutions that were adopted at a recent meeting
regarding the funding of private charities and noted that he supports charities personally
but does not support government supporting private charities… Noted that he does not
feel that municipal trash collection would be a wise move and concerned that the town
would then charge trash hauling fees based on assessed evaluation… Referred to the
proposed village and proposition 439 being put into place, feel it was an unwise move
and agree that they should be allowed to form their own village…
MR. BOB VOLLARO-Referred to the map, plan and report concerning sewer up and
down Bay Road that was previously discussed and questioned whether it showed a full
build-out with respect to things like, for example going all the way down to Cronin
Road? We know that Cronin Road tends to be a choke point and when the map, plan and
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report is done in finality it show reflect all the worst case flow rate up and down Bay
Road to see whether or not it impacts Cronin Road.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-This addresses from Walker Lane north, nothing south of that.
TOWN BOARD DISCUSSIONS
7:55 P.M.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-I think this board is going to serve perhaps those that might
have at one point felt a little disenfranchised. All of us are qualified, I think all of us
mean to do what’s best for the town and I think we will. I think some of the spirited
conversation that took place earlier is a good thing. I think its important that the public
understand why this Board takes the positions it takes. Certainly, if somebody thinks that
we’re wrong, I anticipate, expect and would appreciate that they would call me… One of
the things that I would like to encourage this Board to consider, relative to some of the
comments that Mr. Brothers might had touched on, often times we look at extremities of
the town without getting a real understanding of where they’re coming from and I think it
would behoove this Board at some point in time to schedule a workshop in North
Queensbury. There’s a multitude of issues not the least of which is typical of what we
had here for our public Board of Health. We’ve got a lot of issues with the people trying
to build an awful lot on very small parcels that in turn increase property values… I think
sometimes it isn’t understood how that affects those people that live up there, the taxes
they pay, we have issues with fire districts, I think the fire department would like to make
some comments. I just think it would be, in light of the high level of anxiety and rhetoric
that occurred when the village first was proposed, I think the town could have done a
little better job with trying to communicate with those individuals. Typically we expect
them to come to us but I think periodically we should consider maybe going to their neck
of the woods and hearing them.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-One quick comment, you all heard when we had the
presentation from the Green Mt. Development Group; there will be the public hearing on
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the 23. Encouraged all interested people to attend, it’s important for us to hear what you
think about the proposed rezoning. I think you’re aware of what projects will be affected
by that and I know this is getting to be somewhat repetitive because it’s been done before
but it’s important. Not only that, you also get an opportunity to see where your elected
officers stand on this issue. So, please try to attend and spread the word. Thank you.
COUNCILMAN STROUGH-First of all, Richard the first televised Town Board Meeting
that you’ve been at and I want to welcome you to the Town Board.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-Thank you John.
COUNCILMAN STROUGH-Roger, your idea of having a meeting in North Queensbury
not only to deal with Lake George issues but it could be a moment we could talk about
septic districting too… Would like to thank Mr. Hatin for giving me the yearend totals;
Queensbury value of construction for 2005 was $62,581,537.00 of which fifty-nine
apartments and one hundred single resident homes along with many other commercial
properties built… Noted that he received an email the other day from the New York
Bikers saying that the transportation bond that just past is the first that specifically
includes bicycle and pedestrian transportation projects so there is some funding there…
Spoke regarding cable TV, the recent rate increase and the many issues regarding digital
TV transition… Reviewed the Highway Department’s Christmas tree pickup schedule;
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Ward 1 and Ward 2 January 9 through the 13, Ward 3 January 17 through the 20
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and Ward 4 January 23 through the 27 …
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Just a couple of things I’d like to resurrect. The Recreation
Department has something started with the Faith Bible Church property and we need a
management plan, it’s been six years since that process has started and we haven’t
finished it. That property, Native Textiles and Hudson Point, there’s over a hundred and
fifty acres there and I’d like to see it all tied together so I would ask this Board for
support in bringing that to the forefront with the Recreation Department… Another
thing, I’d like to set a date for workshop with the extension of the lighting district that we
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talked about last year, the two areas in Ward 4 that we’d like to get street lights for so I’d
like to put that on the next agenda Dan.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Noted tomorrow is the forth of the four focus groups for the
Comprehensive Land Use Plan update, subject of the focus group is Economic
Development and it will be held here in this meeting room. This is just the beginning,
there’s going to be all kinds of public comment sought and it will be a better plan, the
more that the public participates in this process… Noted that we have openings for
Planning Board alternates, one Zoning Board alternate and the Recreation Commission so
we’re looking for people to volunteer and for anyone that’s interested please submit a
cover letter or resume… In the spirit of volunteers, the Fire and EMS companies are
seeking volunteers… Referred to the National Grid property and noted, I did get a copy
on an email today from the attorney of National Grid who explained that he just got back
from vacation and that we’re going to move on getting this issue closed and done with.
So, it’s not done yet but I have a name and an email address that goes with the name so to
me that’s forward progress and we’ll get that done in the near future…. Would like to
thank TV-8 and Glens Falls National Bank for sponsoring the town’s televising of our
Town Board Meetings… Noted the town’s website www.queensbury.net, providing a
wealth of information for the public… I would like to propose for planning purposes a
workshop for the fifth Monday of this month… Welcome Richard Sanford to the Town
Board.
COUNCILMAN STROUGH-One last thought, there are several communities that are
negotiating their cable franchises, we could get them back and if we could share the price
of a professional consultant and negotiate this as a wide area, I think we’ll make a lot
more headway on our franchise agreement then we would just going individually and not
only that, we share the cost of the professional.
SUPERVISOR STEC-You’re right, we had a workshop, we had the room setup and there
must have been seven or eight municipalities represented. We know who was there, I can
certainly send a letter to them all again and suggest just that…
RESOLUTIONS
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING OUT-OF-DISTRICT SEWER
AGREEMENT BETWEEN TOWN OF QUEENSBURY AND
RICHARD PENNOCK CONCERNING PROPERTY LOCATED AT
137 QUEENSBURY AVENUE (TAX MAP NO.: 303.16-1-15)
RESOLUTION NO.: 44, 2006
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Roger Boor
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Richard Sanford
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury has established and created several Sewer
Districts as follows:
1.Central Queensbury Quaker Road Sewer District;
2.Hiland Park Sewer District;
3.Pershing-Ashley-Coolidge Sewer District;
4.Queensbury Technical Park Sewer District (District);
5.Reservoir Park Sewer District;
6.Route 9 Sewer District; and
7.South Queensbury – Queensbury Avenue Sewer District;
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and
WHEREAS, at times some Town residents wish to obtain sanitary sewer service
from one of the Town’s Sewer District facilities but their properties are located outside the
Sewer District boundaries, and
WHEREAS, the Town’s Wastewater Director has received a request from Mr.
Richard Pennock to obtain sanitary sewer service from the South Queensbury – Queensbury
Avenue Sewer District’s facilities as Mr. Pennock’s 137 Queensbury Avenue property (Tax
Map No.: 303.16-1-15) is located outside such District’s boundaries, and
WHEREAS, the request is to serve a proposed pizza shop to be located on a .347
acre portion of the property as shown on a site plan map prepared by Charles T. Nacy dated
September 6, 2005 presented at this meeting, and
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury wishes to supply Town resident Richard
Pennock with such sanitary sewer service in accordance with Town Law §198(1), and
WHEREAS, a proposed Agreement for sanitary sewer service is presented at this
meeting and is in form approved by the Town’s Wastewater Director and Town Counsel,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby authorizes the Town
Wastewater Director to enter into an Out-of-District Agreement between the Town of
Queensbury and Richard Pennock for sanitary sewer service to serve a proposed pizza shop
located on a .347 acre portion of Mr. Pennock’s 137 Queensbury Avenue property (Tax
Map No.: 303.16-1-15) as shown on a site plan map prepared by Charles T. Nacy dated
September 6, 2005, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes the Wastewater Director to
make all necessary arrangements, including collection of any fees from Mr. Pennock and
signing the Agreement, in accordance with Town Law §198(1), to effectuate the terms of
this Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 9 day of January, 2006, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Boor, Mr. Sanford
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
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RESOLUTION APPROVING ENGINEERING PLANS FOR ROUTES
9 AND 254 TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS CAPITAL PROJECT
RESOLUTION NO.: 45, 2006
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Daniel Stec
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Roger Boor
WHEREAS, by Resolution No.: 69,2003, the Queensbury Town Board authorized
establishment of the Routes 9 and 254 Traffic Improvements Capital Project (Project) and
establishment of the Routes 9 and 254 Traffic Improvements Capital Project Fund #137
to fund expenses associated with the Project, and
WHEREAS, by Resolution No.: 446,2004, the Town Board authorized the
implementation and funding of the first instance 100% of Federal aid and New York
State “Marchiselli” Program-Aid eligible costs of the Project, and
WHEREAS, by Resolution No.: 201,2005, the Town Board affirmed and
authorized the Project as a New York State Project for construction purposes rather than a
Town of Queensbury project, and
WHEREAS, the Town’s Executive Director of Community Development has
advised the Town Board that she has received the final engineering design entitled, “Final
Design Report, U.S. Route 9 and N.Y. Route 254, December 27, 2005,” and the New
York State Department of Transportation (DOT) requires the Town Supervisor’s
signature on such plans before DOT moves forward with its bidding process,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby approves of the
engineering plans entitled, “Final Design Report, U.S. Route 9 and N.Y. Route 254,
December 27, 2005,” in connection with the Routes 9 and 254 Traffic Improvements
Capital Project and authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor to execute such Final
Design Report on behalf of the Town of Queensbury thereby enabling the New York
State Department of Transportation to go out to bid on this Project, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town
Supervisor and/or Executive Director of Community Development to send a certified
copy of this Resolution to the Town’s engineers involved with this Project and/or the
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appropriate New York State representatives handling this Project and take any other
actions necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 9 day of January, 2006, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Boor, Mr. Sanford, Mr. Strough
NOES : None
ABSENT : None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING APPOINTMENT OF YVONNE
LASHWAY AS PART-TIME CLERK
RESOLUTION NO.: 46, 2006
INTRODUCED BY : Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY : Mr. John Strough
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board and the Town’s CSEA Unit formerly
agreed to make the full-time Clerk position into a job-sharing position with two employees
equally dividing the workday/workweek, and
WHEREAS, one employee has been hired in this job sharing position and the Town
Clerk has recommended that the Town Board now approve Yvonne Lashway in the other
part-time Clerk position, and
WHEREAS, Town Policy requires that familial relationships be disclosed and that
the Town Board approve the appointment of Town employees’ relatives and Ms.
Lashway is the wife of Computer Technology Coordinator Ryan Lashway, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board has considered the Town Clerk’s request and wishes
to approve Ms. Lashway’s employment in this position,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby authorizes the hiring of
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Yvonne Lashway in the part-time Clerk position effective January 3, 2006, and
BE IT FURTHER,
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RESOLVED, that Ms. Lashway shall work 20 hours per week and accrue leave
benefits (sick, vacation and personal days) on a pro-rated basis, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that Ms. Lashway shall be paid an hourly wage of $13.48 to be paid
from the appropriate payroll account, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the Town
Supervisor, Town Clerk and/or Budget Officer to complete any forms and take any action
necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 9 day of January, 2006, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Stec, Mr. Boor, Mr. Sanford, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AMENDING RESOLUTION NO.: 595, 2005
REGARDING SALARY OF RECREATION PROGRAM SPECIALIST
RESOLUTION NO.: 47, 2006
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Richard Sanford
WHEREAS, by Resolution No.: 595, 2005, the Queensbury Town Board adopted
its part-time hourly wage and annual stipend, non-management, non-union full-time staff
and management staff salary schedules for 2006, such salary schedules including the salary
for Queensbury’s Recreation Program Specialist, and
WHEREAS, the 2006 salary listed for the Recreation Program Specialist was
incorrectly printed as $33,499 rather than the correct amount of $32,366,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby amends Resolution No.:
595,2005 such that the 2006 annual salary for the Recreation Program Specialist shall be
$32,366
, and
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BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby affirms and ratifies Resolution No.: 595,
2005 in all other respects.
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Duly adopted this 9 day of January, 2006, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Boor, Mr. Sanford, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING APPOINTMENT OF
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS CHAIRMAN
RESOLUTION NO.: 48, 2006
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Roger Boor
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board has received the Queensbury Zoning
Board of Appeals’ recommendation for its year 2006 officers, and
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board wishes to appoint the Chairman of the
Town’s Zoning Board of Appeals for 2006,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby appoints Charles Abbate as
Chairman and hereby affirms the Zoning Board of Appeals’ appointments of Charles
McNulty as Vice Chairman and James Underwood as Secretary of the Town’s Zoning
Board of Appeals for 2006.
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Duly adopted this 9 day of January, 2006, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Sanford, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Boor
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
DISCUSSION regarding appointment of Planning Board Chairman:
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SUPERVISOR STEC-We did get a recommendation of sorts from the Town Planning
Board that basically
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Shouldn’t we move it first?
SUPERVISOR STEC-Well, we don’t know what to move yet. I was just going to
summarize, the Planning Board did forward to the Town Board, basically they gave us two
names that they would recommend both of which said that if they were voted on and
appointed that they would serve. The current serving Chairman is Mr. Chris Hunsinger and
the current serving Vice Chairman is Mr. Bob Vollaro so they kind of left it to the Town
Board to pick between those two nominees as it were and with that.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-One question, when I look at the ayes and the noes, Mr. Hunsinger
has voted no, I assume you still want the, you’re still; I don’t understand what that means.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-What do you mean?
SUPERVISOR STEC-I assume it means,
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Well, if you look at the vote, it, I just, it, I don’t understand if he
doesn’t want it or if he wants
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-No, no, he, I believe that he’s interested in the position; he
didn’t prefer it to go by way of this form of resolution.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Okay.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-But Chris can speak for himself if you’d like.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-No that’s fine.
MR. CHRIS HUNSINGER, Planning Board Chairman-If you want me to, I will.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Well, I just
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-I think it’s clear.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Okay.
MR. HUNSINGER, Planning Board Chairman-Your reasons aren’t the reason why I voted
that way.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-Well.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Well then let him explain.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-Go ahead and explain it.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Chris, if you want, the floor is yours.
MR. HUNSINGER, Planning Board Chairman-I really had no intention of addressing the
Board tonight. The reason why I voted no is because the by-laws of the Planning Board
require the Planning Board to make a recommendation to the Town and I felt that we were
doing ourselves a disservice and as Chairman I thought it was my duty to put forward a
resolution for the Town Board to consider and that is why I voted no. I will, I am of course
interested in remaining as Chairman.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Okay, thank you.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Thank you, we appreciate your service. I don’t know if we want to
show hands of who thinks they’d like, we can go in alphabetical order, Hunsinger is before
Vollaro. How many Board Members would move to reappoint Hunsinger? This way we’ll
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get a name for the resolution and then we’ll make a motion and a second. So, if there’s, how
many people?
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Aye.
SUPERVISOR STEC-I see two. Alright, how many people would prefer to nominate and
vote on Mr. Vollaro as Chairman?
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Aye.
(COUNCILMAN SANFORD AND STROUGH raised their hands)
SUPERVISOR STEC-Okay, so we will insert the name of Mr. Robert Vollaro in this
resolution, now I’ll entertain a motion.
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING APPOINTMENT OF
TOWN PLANNING BOARD CHAIRMAN
RESOLUTION NO.: 49, 2006
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Roger Boor
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board wishes to appoint the Chairman of the
Town’s Planning Board for 2006,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby appoints Robert Vollaro as
Chairman of the Town’s Planning Board for 2006.
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Duly adopted this 9 day of January, 2006, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Strough, Mr. Boor, Mr. Sanford
NOES : Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec
ABSENT: None
DISCUSSION BEFORE VOTE:
COUNCILMAN STROUGH-Well, I just, Robert Vollaro got one hundred percent
unanimous vote by the Planning Board to be Chairman so I think I’m going to back him.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Not last month.
COUNCILMAN STROUGH-No, six months ago.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Oh May, yea.
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COUNCILMAN STROUGH-Yea.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Alright, I just want to make sure we’re clear on the timing.
COUNCILMAN STROUGH-Well, it was pretty clear, they’re unanimous.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Any other discussion?
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Yea, I’ll just, one thing is, Chris has done a good job and it should
be noted and besides the fact that I think Bob is the senior member, has done a wonderful
job and was the unanimous choice originally, I think it’s also important to note that Chris is
Chairman of PORC and both of these positions are extremely important. And certainly one
of the reasons I’m comfortable with my decision is I think as appointed positions, we should
be careful not doling out too much responsibility to any one given person, there’s a lot of
authority and power both as the Chairman of the PORC Committee and as the Planning
Board Committee and in the event that they’re not elected positions, we need to be very
careful not to put too much authority in any one person’s hands.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Any other discussion? For the record, I felt the way I felt seven
months ago, I still feel that way now and I think that Chris Hunsinger has done a great job as
Chairman and I don’t see any reason to not reappoint him but that’s just my opinion. Any
other discussion? Let’s go ahead and vote. (vote taken)
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING APPLICATION FOR GRANT FUNDS
IN CONNECTION WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE’S
SHARED MUNICIPAL SERVICES GRANT PROGRAM
RESOLUTION NO.: 50, 2006
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHEREAS, the New York State Department of State (DOS) has grant funds
available as part of its Shared Municipal Service Incentive (SMSI) Grant Program for the
purpose of municipalities studying shared services, cooperative agreements,
consolidations and/or dissolutions, and
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury and City of Glens Falls wish to pursue
grant funding for the purpose of studying shared services and/or cooperative agreements
to use the City of Glens Falls Watershed lands for recreational purposes for the benefit of
Town and City residents, with the understanding that any grant funding carries with it the
requirement of a local match, and
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury would be the Lead Applicant for this grant
application,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
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RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby expresses its support of
the Town of Queensbury and City of Glens Falls’ joint submission of an application for
grant funding in accordance with the New York State Department of State’s Shared
Municipal Services Incentive (SMSI) Grant Program for the purpose of obtaining grant
funds to be used toward the study of shared services and/or cooperative agreements to use
the City of Glens Falls Watershed lands for recreational purposes for the benefit of Town
and City residents, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Executive
Director of Community Development and/or Senior Planner to prepare, and the Town
Supervisor to sign, an application to the Department of State’s SMSI Grant Program, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby designates the Town’s Executive
Director of Community Development as the Town’s “Lead Applicant Contact Person,”
and authorizes the Executive Director, in such capacity, to execute financial and/or
administrative processes relating to the SMSI Grant Program, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs that such grant
application be for up to a maximum grant award of $200,000 - $100,000 per municipality
- and the Town Board further approves, authorizes and confirms that it will provide up to
ten-percent (10%) of its share or up to $10,000 of the amount of grant funds received as the
Town’s local share toward the endeavor referenced in the preambles of this Resolution, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Budget
Officer to accordingly budget for such local match of up to $10,000 in the Town’s 2006
operating budget from the appropriate line items, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby authorizes the Town Supervisor,
Budget Officer, Executive Director of Community Development and/or Senior Planner to
take any other actions necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
Regular Town Board Meeting, 01-09-2006, Mtg #2 31
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Duly adopted this 9 day of January, 2006, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Boor, Mr. Sanford, Mr. Strough
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION TO AMEND 2005 BUDGET
RESOLUTION NO.: 51, 2005
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHEREAS, the attached Budget Amendment Requests have been duly initiated and
justified and are deemed compliant with Town operating procedures and accounting
practices by the Town Budget Officer,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the
Town Budget Officer’s Office to take all action necessary to transfer funds and amend
the 2005 Town Budget as follows:
WASTEWATER:
FROM: TO: $ AMOUNT:
032-1680-2032 032-8110-4130 995.50
(Computer Software) (Town Counsel Fees)
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Duly adopted this 9 day of January, 2006, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Stec, Mr. Boor, Mr. Sanford, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION APPROVING AUDIT OF BILLS –
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ABSTRACT OF DECEMBER 30, 2005
RESOLUTION NO.: 52, 2006
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
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WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board wishes to approve, ratify and affirm the
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audit of bills presented as the Abstract of December 30, 2005,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby approves, ratifies and
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affirms the Abstract of December 30, 2005 numbering 25-594300 through 25-620100 and
totaling $412,828.90, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board affirms and ratifies the Budget Officer and/or
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Town Supervisor’s actions taken during December 30, 2005 concerning such audit and
authorizes and directs the Budget Officer and/or Town Supervisor to take such other and
further action as may be necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 9 day of January, 2006, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Boor, Mr. Sanford, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
DISCUSSION BEFORE VOTE:
COUNCILMAN STROUGH-Jen, what is the warrant report?
SUPERVISOR STEC-That’s the new MUNIS software, that will be the new format.
COUNCILMAN STROUGH-Is it both of these together?
MS. JENNIFER SWITZER, Budget Officer-Actually the word abstract and warrant are
interchangeable. With the old software it was referred to as an abstract, the new software,
their wording is a warrant so the language, it was just changed. There’s actually two
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separate, where we always have called audits in front. One is through December 30 and
the other is through today.
COUNCILMAN STROUGH-So actually the budget would be both of these together, the
total of what we’re paying out this month is both of these?
MS. SWITZER, Budget Officer-That’s right.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-I have one question, page 7 what department is the survey and
what did we have surveyed?
SUPERVISOR STEC-It’s the fifty acres off Haviland, the property that we bought last year.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-I have a couple of comments. First of all, I want to thank
Jennifer for spending some time with me today and explaining some things. The first batch
that we’re dealing with have already been paid I think because of timing whereas the second
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batch we’re approving and then they’ll be paid later. I did notice a sizeable payment in here
and I questioned the nature of it, it was to Cool Insuring for pretty much liability insurance
in the neighborhood of $75,000.00. Jennifer was kind enough to review all of the insurance
that we have, most of which is through Cool and we discovered it’s been quite some time
since it’s ever been out to bid… Since payment is gone and it looks like there has been
some form of a commitment for year 2006 but I would think sometime this spring we would
want to do a RFP to have that looked at for adequacy and also for price competitiveness.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-We just got a comparison on some.
MS. SWITZER, Budget Officer-But that was just a comparison from one year to another.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Jen, didn’t we in your budget, the 2006 budget that we approved a
couple of months ago, didn’t we set aside some money in your budget to hire a consultant to
help us to this?
MS. SWITZER, Budget Officer-There’s consulting fees in there.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Alright, I thought we were planning on putting this out to bid
anyways.
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-Okay, good.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Because you’re right, I can’t remember when the last time it was…
COUNCILMAN SANFORD-I just wanted to make sure that we were all in agreement that
we would proceed that way.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Oh, I think we should, yea. (vote taken)
RESOLUTION APPROVING AUDIT OF BILLS –
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WARRANT OF JANUARY 10, 2006
RESOLUTION NO.: 53, 2006
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board wishes to approve the audit of bills
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presented as the Warrant with a run date of January 5, 2006 and a payment date of January
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10, 2006,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby approves the Warrant with a
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run date of January 5, 2006 and payment date of January 10, 2006 numbering 9 - 51 and
totaling $205,065.25, and
BE IT FURTHER,
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RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Budget Officer
and/or Town Supervisor to take such other and further action as may be necessary to
effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 9 day of January, 2006, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Sanford, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Boor
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION APPOINTING CURRENT ALTERNATE
THOMAS FORD AS REGULAR MEMBER OF
QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD
RESOLUTION NO.: 54, 2006
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Roger Boor
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Richard Sanford
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury previously established the Town’s Planning
Board in accordance with applicable New York State law, and
WHEREAS, by Resolution No.: 163,2005, the Town Board appointed Thomas
Ford as an alternate member of the Planning Board, and
WHEREAS, a regular member Planning Board vacancy exists due to the departure
of former Planning Board member and present Town Councilman Richard Sanford, and
therefore the Town Board wishes to appoint Thomas Ford to serve as a regular member on
the Planning Board,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby appoints current alternate
member Thomas Ford to serve as a regular member of the Queensbury Planning Board until
his term expires on December 31, 2012.
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Duly adopted this 9 day of January, 2006, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Boor, Mr. Sanford
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
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Town Board adjourned to the Supervisor’s Conference Room
DISCUSSION – WEST GLENS FALLS EMS BUILDING & BUDGET
9:15 P.M.
Town Board held discussion regarding the West Glens Falls EMS proposed building,
increasing the amount to be borrowed and the total cost of the project…. The EMS Squad
presented the Town Board with sheet of proposed cost cuts prepared by the EMS Squad’s
architect… Town Board reviewed sheet and discussion was held concerning deductions
listed and the Town Board’s preferences of which they felt would help to lower costs
without changing the building and vision materially. The Town Board will consider
increasing the overall project $50,000.00 along with the amount to be borrowed by the
same. Total project cost increased to $1,750,000 – amount to be borrowed $1,600,000
(from original $1,550,000.00)…. The EMS squad was directed to contact contractor with
lowest bid regarding elimination of two bays. Proposed deduction for the two bays did not
appear to be as big a reduction as Town Board would like to see. The EMS Squad will also
work with Budget Officer to update pay-off of current building and the soft costs for the
project.
RESOLUTION TO ADJOURN TOWN BOARD MEETING
RESOLUTION NO.: 55, 2006
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns
their Regular Town Board Meeting.
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Duly adopted this 9 day of January, 2006, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Stec, Mr. Boor, Mr. Sanford, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
No further action taken.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
DARLEEN M. DOUGHER
TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF QUEENSBURY