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Mr. Beaty, reported on the effort to develop the cards, which
will be distributed as an advertisement of the activities
within the Town of Queensbury. The order has been placed for
12,500 cards to be available for distribution at an early date.
WEST GLENS FALLS VOLUNTEER FIRE CO. NO. 1
West Glens Falls, N. Y.
July 11, 1963.
Dear Mr. Crannell:
We have three new active members in our company, would
you please add them to your list, their names are Francis Johnson,
Terry LaLonde, and Lawerence Trackey, thank you.
Sincerely,
David Harrington
RESOLUTION NO. 121 introduced by Mr. Beaty, s econded by Mr. Turner.
WHEREAS, Mr. LeRoy Phillips , Chairman of the Repubhican Committee
did apoint Hulda Ellingsworth as .Election Inspector for District
#4 of the Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, Hulda Ellingsworth will not beable to s erveg therefore
be it
RESOLVED, that Marilyn Gates of 7 Greenway North be appointed
as Election Inspector for District No. 4 of the Town of Queensbury.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes - Mr. . Beaty, Mr. Turner, Mr. Lampson, Mr. Akins and Mr. Webster.
Noes - None
On motion the meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully submitted
George C. Crannell
Town,Clerk
Regular Meeting July 25, 1963.
Present: John 0. Webster Supervisor
N. Harwood Beaty Councilman
Theodore Turner Councilman
Curtis Lampson Councilman
Harold Akins Councilman
o The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p. m.
With the public hearing on the subject of an extension for the
Pershing, Ashley, Coolidge Sewer District; the main topic of the
meeting. The following interested persons were greeted by the
Supervisor.
Dr. Alexander Avrin
James B. Tidman
Stanley B. Miller '
Mr. & Mrs. William C. Prescott
John Dillon
Philip E. Tobias
Atty. Albert E. Beswick - Attorney for the Town of Queensbury
Joseph A Kestner, Jr. - Engineer on water and sewer problems
Bernard J. Codner - Superintendent of Highways
LeRoy Phillips - Chief of Police of the Tow n of Queensbury
The proof of publication of the notice of thei.hearing was pre-
sented by the Clerk.
The reading of the notice was waived follow ing approval of all
interested parties.
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Upon the invitation 'of the Supervisor, Mr. John Dillon was granted
the floor to explain his request for the extension. A general
resumee of the present need for the approval of the sewer connection
in order that his new home might be completed, was aired by Mr. Dillon.
Mr. Stanley B. Miller, was heard at length with objections dating
from the original adoption of the sewer district, up to the present
day problem, ' It was evident that the capacity of the sewer system
was not the basis for Mr. Miller*s objections. The main objection
`being that the objector is afraid of future difficulties with his
own personal system to his residence.
Mr. Phillip E. Tobias spoke briefly on the subject of the extension.
It was evident that Mr. Tobias would consider tapping on-to the
system if he were given the opportunity.
Mr. William C. Prescott spoke on the subject of the system in
general. It was also evident that Mr. Prescott would be-anxious
to become a part of the sewer system, s hould the permission be
made available.
Mr. Joseph A. Kestner, Jr. , the engineer for the Town of Queensbury
discussed his opinion as well as that of Mr. Earl'Reardon, the
engineer for the City of Glens Falls, on the overall condition of
the sewer system, as well as the capacity of same as it stands today.
Questions and answers of the visitors was forthcoming at this time.
The report of Mr. Kestner was as follows:
Joseph A. Kestner, Jr.
Consulting Engineer
1 Kestner Lane °
Troy, New York
July 19, 1963.
Mr. John 0. Webster, Supervisor
Town of Queensbury
P. 0. Box 86
Glens Falls , New York
Subject: Pershing, Ashley, Coolidge Sewer District
Dear Mr. Webster: '
I have studied the sewerage facilities for,, the subject district and
take this opportunity to report our findings and conclusions.
The existing sewer- on Pershing Road between Ashley Place and Roosevelt
Avenue was installed about 1929. It is laid on a slope of 2.9 feet per
thousand and has a capacity when' flowing full of 400,000 gallons per
day. The standards of the State Health Department for eight-inch sewers
specifies a minimum grade of four feet ppr thousand, but I consider the
grade of the sewer to be adequate for satisfactory service to the 20
homes which it serves.
The usual design basis for lateral sewers such as this is to provide a
capacity of 400 gallons per person per day. The capacity of this
sewer line, therefore, is adequate to serve a total of 1,000 persons.
There are approximately 15' residences now by the sewer on Pershing
Road and the tributary sewers on Ashley Place and Luzern Place in the
Town of Queensbury. There are five additional lots which might be
served by this sewer, making a total of 20 potential customers and a
connected population of 80 persons. This sewer therefore is adequat e
to serve both present and proposed user s, when maintained properly.
On July 9 Mr. Earl Reardon and Mr. Bernard Codner and I made an in-
spection of the manholes along Pershing Road in the Town of Queensbury
and the portion of Pershing Road in the City of Glens Falls. From this
inspection I conclude that improved service can be rendered by improving
the flow channels in manholes and by periodic inspection and cleaning
of this sewer line. The following are- the conditions observed at in-
dividual manholes:
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Manhole No. 1 at Pershing Road and Ashley Place. There was an accumi-
lation of sewage _in this Tnanhole due to an ob struction in Manhole NO.IA,
which caused an accumulation of solids. This manhole should be cleaned
and the floor should be sloped with mortar to form a half-pipe channel
for proper flow of sewage.
Manhole No. IA at Pershing Road and Ashley Place. This manhole is about
feet east of Manhole No. 1 in the same intersection. A 12-inch cast
iron pipe crosses the eight-inch sewer at right angles near the flow line.
There appeared to be broken pieces of pipe -under the cast iron pipe,
causing a stoppage and build-up of sewage solids. This manhole should be
cleaned and the invert improved with a mortar cha nnel to prevent clogging.
Manhole No. 2 on Pershing Road between Ashley Place and Luzern Place.
This mnhole was in satisfactory condition, although it could be improved
by constructing a mortar floor which would slope toward the sewer channels.
Manhole No. 3 at Pershing Road and Luzerne Place. The-eight-inch-sewer
passes through this manhole in a satisfactory manner. The six-inch line
from Luzern Place, however, terminates at the wall of the manhole and
there is no channel from the inlet of the six-inch line to the eight-inch
sewer. This permits a build-up of solids on the floor of the manhole from
the six-inch line. Half-pipe channel construction of mortar from-the end
of the six-inch sewer to the ei'%ht-inch sewer channel would correct this
condition.
Manhole No. 4 at Pershing Road and Roosevelt Avenue is a shallow manhole
within the City limits. It was operating satisfactorily at the time of our
inspection. There is evidence of tree roots around the walls, however,
which shows need for periodic inspection and cleaning to prevent clogging by
this cause.
Manhole No. S at Pershing Road between Broad-acres Road and Roosevelt
Avenue was surcharged with sewage,, indicating a clogging condition down--
stream: There was evidence of roots on the wall, which may mean that roots
are growing inside the sewer line. '
Manhole No. 6 at Broad-acres Road and Horicon Place, also was surcharged
with sewage at the time of our inspection. There are three storm water
inlets to this manhole which Mr. Reardon said would be eliminated by
sewer construction. These storm water connect ions are undesirable and
should be eliminated. Mr. Reardon told me, however, that the City does
not have a back-up in this line during heavy storms. '
Manhole No. 7 downstream from Manhole No. 6, has two storm water inlet
connections which likewise are scheduled for elimination. This manhole
was surcharged with sewage during our inspection.
Following the inspection of July 9,: Mr. Reardon indicated that immediate
arrangements would be made to clean the sewer within the City, The
recommended improvements, with periodic inspections , should render this
line capable of" providing satisfactory service for the users within the
Town of Queensbury.
On July 8 I discussed the problem of sewerage along Pershing Road in the
Town of Queensbury with Mr. Stanley B. Miller, who was instrumental in
forming the sewer district and was one of the first customers to use the
sewer following its construction in 1929. He repor ted that he has
experienced some difficulty with the backing of sewage in his household
sewer, and has installed a back-water valve t o prevent the backing of
sewage when the residence is unoccupied. The difficulty which Mr. Miller
experiences does not occur with any regular frequency and does not appear
to be related to periods of heavy rainfall. I conclude theregore that
with proper maintanance this sewer will provide satisfactory service for
all users in the Town of Queensbury. During the inspection. Mr. Reardon
indicated that there would be no objection to serving the proposed
additional users in the Town.
I should be pleased to discuss this inspection in further detail. at the
convenience of the Town Board.
Sincerely,
Joseph A. Kestner, Jr.
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At the close of the hearing Mr. Miller presented a petition which
he had prepared and circulated.
Petition
TO THE TOWN BOARD, TOWN OF .QUEENSBURY.
We, the undersigned property owners , a nd whose properties are
connected .to the Sewer lines of the Pershing-Ashley-Coolidge
Sewer District of the Town of Queensbury, do hereby protest
ank consideration of any extension of iti present boundaries.
1. In 1959, after many years .of arguments, threats _and other form s
of harassment, we negotiated an agreement with the City of
Glens Falls, governing the use of these sewer lines. The
formation of this District was one of the conditions.
Article 4 of this agreement provides
"That the DISTRICT covenants and agrees that the
use of the city sanitary facilities shall ,be
restricted to and shall i nclude only those
residences which are now included within said
District's.
lie believe it to be the obligation of the District to enforce
the terms of the agreement.
2. More seriously is the limited capacity og the, lines. This
applies particularly to the line in Ashley Place and Pershing
Road. There are 13 properties connected to this line serving
36 adults and children. Stoppages and back-up occur indicating
that the line is overloaded. To add another connection will
worsen the condition.
Property Owner Address
Stanley B. Miller 5 Pershing Road
Evie L. Miller It tt tt
Cecelia B. Marks 6 Pershing Road
Geo. N. Doty 8 Pershing Road
Berdie Yafa 23 Ashley Place
Gertrude Rosenbaum 10 Pershing Road
Edward Rosembaum tt tt tt
Thomas E. Meath 9 Pershing Road
R. Fay Marrs 92 Coolidge Avenue
Raymond L Rhodes MD & Ruth L. Rhodes 10 Ashley Place
J. H. Derby, Jr. 1 Ashley Place
Edwin A. Willis 17 Ashley Place
Martha M. Willis It tt tt
Gilbert H. Lange 16 It tt
Emilie W. Lange tt it rt
John Alden Beals . 20 tt
Barbara L. Bobst 7 Pershing Road
Submitted _
July 25, 1963.
Following the close of the public hearing; Mr. Webster presented
a certified copy of a resolution which was adopted by the
Common Council of the City of Glens Falls, to do with requesting
a delay of one week on a decision to extend the Pershing,
Ashley, Coolidge, sewer district.
Mr. Beswick, reported to .the Town Board on the results of .a
discussion with the trustees of the Adirondack Community Colle ge.
It was stated that a site has been proposed within the Town of
Queensbury which may be considered at a later date. An option
on the property will be signed at an early date.
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Mr. Kestner presented for discussion a letter to Mayor Helm on the
points of inter-connection with the water supply system of the City
of Glens Falls.
A discussion was brought up by the clerk to do with the ownership
of the water main in Fort Amherst Road. A study will be made at a
later date.
A possible future appointment of a Water Superintendent, for the
Queensbury Water District was discussed at length by the members
of the Town Board.
RESOLUTION NO. 122 introduced by Mr. Turner, seconded .by Mr. Lampson.
WHEREAS, Nelson Harrington has made application for a license to --
operate a Junk Yard for the year 1963 at Upper< Sherman Avenue
location, and
WHEREAS, this application has been accompanied by the proper license
fee of $10.00, therefore be it
RESOLVED, that the junk yard license of Nelson; Harrington, for the
year 1963,. be and the same is hereby approved, and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Supervisor is hereby directed to issue such
license and deposit the fee of $10.00 in the General Town Fund.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes - Mr. Beaty, Mr. Turner, Mr. Lampson Mr. Akins and Mr. Webster.
Noes None
A letter from the Lake George Park Commissioiowas received and
placed on file. A joint meeting -.will be arranged for a later date
with the commission and the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury.
On motion the meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully submitted
George C. Crannell ,
To wn Clerk
Special Meeting July 29, 1963.
Present:
John 0. Webster Supervisor
N. Harwood Beaty Councilman
Theodore Turner (absent) Councilman
Curtis Lampson Councilman
Harold Akins Councilman
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p. m.
The subject of discussion had to do with the color of the water
supply storage tanks in the Queensbury Water System. The suggested
color was gray. The board agreed that the established color would be
gray. A
A lengthy discussion ensued on the authority of the highway super-
intendent to remove the caretaker of the dump grom. his appointment.
Following a deceision of the County Attorney, it was agreed that
the caretaker could only be releived on an order of the Town Board,
Mr. Turner visited the meeting at this time.
A discussion took place at this time on the present status of the
Extension of the Pershing, Ashley, Coolidge Sewer District.
Mr. Doyle of the Department of Audit and Control, proceeded to
discuss the results of the recent Audit of all departments of the
Town of Queensbury.
On motion the meeting was adjourned.
'?ps*�ect�nl i n �'tthm;ti-ecl
George C. Crannell
Town Clerk