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1997-07-21 REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING JULY 21,1997 7:03 P.M. MTG #35 RES.282-289 BOH 16-17 BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT SUPERVISOR FRED CHAMPAGNE COUNCILMAN BETTY MONAHAN COUNCILMAN THEODORE TURNER COUNCILMAN CONNIE GOEDERT COUNCILMAN CAROL PULVER TOWN COUNSEL MARK SCHACHNER TOWN OFFICIALS Henry Hess, Controller Paul Naylor, Highway Superintendent John Goralski, Executive Director of Community Development PRESS: Glens Falls Post Star PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCILMAN BETTY MONAHAN Supervisor Champagne called meeting to order... RESOLUTION CALLING FOR THE QUEENSBURY BOARD OF HEALTH RESOLUTION NO. 282, 97 INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert WHO MOVED FOR IT'S ADOPTION SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from Regular Session and enters as the Queensbury Board of Health. Duly adopted this 21st day of July, 1997, by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr. Champagne NOES: None ABSENT: None QUEENSBURY BOARD OF HEALTH RESOLUTION TO SET PUBLIC HEARING ON APPLICATION FOR VARIANCE FROM SANITARY SEW AGE DISPOSAL ORDINANCE FOR JOHN F. FLOWER, JR. BOARD OF HEALTH RESOLUTION NO. 16,97 INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is, by operation of Law, the Local Board of Health for the Town of Queensbury and, as such, is authorized under Chapter 136 of the Town of Queensbury On-Site Sewage Disposal Ordinance to issue variances from such Ordinance, and WHEREAS, John F. Flower, Jr. has applied to the Local Board of Health of the Town of Queensbury for a variance from certain standards of the Town of Queensbury On-Site Sewage Disposal Ordinance set forth in Chapter 136, Appendix A, such standards providing as follows: APPENDIX A TABLE I - HORIZONTAL SEPARATION DISTANCES FROM WASTEWATER SOURCES TO STREAM WELL OR LAKE OR WASTEWATER SUCTION WATER PROPERTY LAKE GEORGE SOURCES LINE (a) COURSE(c) DWELLING LINE AND TRIBS. Effluent line " 10' Absorption field " 10' Seepage Pits 150' , and WHEREAS, John F. Flower, Jr. has indicated a desire to place a well 75' and 80' from the existing septic system on the property rather than placing it at the mandated 150' distance, and to place an absorption field 3' from the property line rather than the required 10', and to place an effluent line 3' from the property line rather than the required 10' distance, NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Local Board of Health for the Town of Queensbury will hold a public hearing on August 4, 1997, at 7:00 p.rn., at the Queensbury Activities Center, (reasonably accessible to persons with mobility impairment) 742 Bay Road, Town of Queensbury, Warren County, New York, to consider the application for a variance of John F. Flower, Jr. to place a well 75' and 80' from the existing septic system on the property rather than placing it at the mandated 150' distance, to place an absorption field 3' from the property line rather than the required 10', and to place an effluent line 3' from the property line rather than the required 10' distance, on property situated at 32 & 34 Sunnyside North, Town of Queensbury, New York, and bearing Tax Map No.: Section 49, Block 2, Lots 30 & 31, and, at that time, all persons interested in the subject thereof will be heard, and BE IT FURTHER, RESOLVED, that the Town Clerk of the Town of Queensbury be and is hereby directed and authorized, when in receipt of a list of neighbors within 500 feet of the subject property, to publish and provide Notice of said Public Hearing as may be required by law, and authorized to mail copies of said Public Hearing Notice to the adjoining neighbors. Duly adopted this 21st day of July, 1997, by the following vote: AYES : Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Champagne NOES : None ABSENT: None RESOLUTION TO ADJOURN QUEENSBURY BOARD OF HEALTH BOARD OF HEALTH RESOLUTION NO. 17, 97 INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver WHO MOVED FOR IT'S ADOPTION SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Board of Health hereby adjourns and enters Regular Session of the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury. Duly adopted this 21st day of July, 1997, by the following vote: AYES: Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mr. Champagne NOES: None ABSENT: None REGULAR SESSION RESOLUTIONS RESOLUTION RETAINING NACE ENGINEERING TO PROVIDE ENGINEERING SERVICES IN CONJUNCTION WITH IMPROVEMENTS TO DUNHAM'S BAY ROAD RESOLUTION NO. 283, 97 INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury and Town Highway Superintendent wish to retain professional engineering services concerning proposed improvements to Dunham's Bay Road which include resurfacing, remedial drainage work and improvement of the western intersection with Route 9L, and WHEREAS, Nace Engineering, P.e. has offered to provide the necessary engineering services for an amount of $4,800 for pre-construction engineering services, and $65.00 per hour for any services rendered during construction, NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby approves of the retention of Nace Engineering to provide the engineering services described in the preambles hereof at a cost not to exceed $4,800 for pre-construction services and not to exceed $1,000 without further Town Board authorization for services rendered during construction, and BE IT FURTHER, RESOLVED, that the services shall be paid for from the Engineering Services - Miscellaneous Contractual Account #01-1440-4400. Duly adopted this 21st day of July, 1997, by the following vote: AYES : Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mr. Champagne NOES : None ABSENT: None Discussion Before Vote: Supervisor Champagne-There's a blank in there for services rendered during construction, oversee the clerk of the works. Although, I didn't talk with Paul or anyone, I thought a thousand dollars in there should be more then adequate for that. So, if you'll except that one thousand dollars for those who made the motion and seconded it... Councilman Goedert and Councilman Pulver agreed. Councilman Goedert-The only thing I don't see is a completion date, a deadline. Councilman Pulver-A deadline for Tom Nace or? Councilman Goedert-Yes, for Tom Nace. Supervisor Champagne-Do you want to put something in there that would work, a deadline for him getting that back to you? Mr. Paul Naylor, Highway Superintendent-Well I've worked with him a long time, I haven't seen him drag his feet yet so I don't know why you would start now. Supervisor Champagne-Okay, let's vote. (vote taken) Councilman Goedert's comments during her vote: I still prefer a deadline in these contracts. We're still waiting on one as far as I know that was supposed to be here but I agree with getting the road done, yes. RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING EMERGENCY INTERCONNECTION OF THE CITY OF GLENS FALLS 20" WATER MAIN TO TOWN OF QUEENSBURY 24" WATER MAIN RESOLUTION NO. 284, 97 INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan WHEREAS, Thomas Flaherty, Town of Queensbury Water Superintendent, has been formally advised by Donald Coalts, City of Glens Falls Water and Sewer Superintendent, that the City of Glens Falls Water and Sewer Board has approved an emergency interconnection project to connect the City of Glens Falls' 20" water main to the Town of Queensbury's 24" water main, thus providing an emergency interconnection back-up system between the two municipalities, and WHEREAS, the interconnection project will benefit both the City of Glens Falls and the Town of Queensbury, as it will provide a back-up water supply to both municipalities, and WHEREAS, e.T. Male Associates, P.e. has provided the City and Town with a "Progress Print" for the interconnection project and a copy of the same has been presented to the Town Board, and WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury must formally approve the interconnection project before the work may proceed, NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes and approves the emergency interconnection project between the City of Glens Falls and Town of Queensbury, thereby allowing the City of Glens Falls to connect its 20" water main to the Town of Queensbury 24" water main, and BE IT FURTHER, RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor is hereby authorized and directed to take all steps necessary, including the execution of any appropriate documents and the placing of the Town's seal on any of the appropriate documents as may be necessary, to carry out the interconnection project. Duly adopted this 21st day of July, 1997 by the following vote: AYES : Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr. Champagne NOES : None ABSENT: None RESOLUTION APPOINTING CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICER RESOLUTION NO. 285, 97 INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner WHEREAS, by previous resolution the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury established the position of Code Compliance Officer and appointed Mr. John Goralski to said position, and WHEREAS, Mr. Goralski was recently promoted from the Code Compliance Officer position to the position of Executive Director of Community Development and Zoning Administrator, and WHEREAS, Mr. Goralski and the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury posted availability for the vacant Code Compliance Officer position, reviewed resumes and interviewed interested candidates, NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby appoints Mr. Christopher Round to the position of Code Compliance Officer on a provisional basis until such time as he passes the Civil Service exam for the Code Compliance Officer position and also subject to a six month probation period, and BE IT FURTHER, RESOLVED, that Mr. Round shall be paid a salary of $30,000 per annum to be paid on a prorated weekly basis, and BE IT FURTHER, RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor and Town Comptroller are hereby authorized and directed to complete any forms necessary to effectuate this resolution. Duly adopted this 21st day of July, 1997 by the following vote: AYES : Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Champagne NOES : None ABSENT: None Discussion After Vote: Councilman Monahan noted that this position was left vacant after Mr. Goralski was promoted. RESOLUTION APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING DRAINAGE WORK PERFORMED BY THE TOWN HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT ON SWEET ROAD RESOLUTION NO. 286, 97 INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION SECONDED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert WHEREAS, the Town Highway Superintendent and Town Board of the Town of Queensbury are aware of drainage problems and poor surface conditions on Sweet Road between New York State Route 9 (NYS Route 9) and Country Club Road, and WHEREAS, by Resolution No. 216, 1997, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury retained Nace Engineering to provide engineering and design services concerning Sweet Road, and WHEREAS, as a result of recommendations made by Nace Engineering, the Town of Queensbury Highway Department has performed certain temporary measures in an effort to alleviate the drainage problems on Sweet Road, and WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is desirous offormally approving and ratifying the actions of the Town Highway Superintendent, NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby approves, authorizes, and ratifies all actions by and costs incurred by the Town Highway Department to alleviate the drainage concerns in the vicinity of Sweet Road, and BE IT FURTHER, RESOLVED, that the Town Highway Superintendent shall present written bills and invoices to the Town Board concerning all expenses incurred for the project, and BE IT FURTHER, RESOLVED, that the cost of the aforesaid authorization shall be paid for from the Sweet Road Capital Project Account #109. Duly adopted this 21st day of July, 1997, by the following vote: AYES : Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mr. Champagne NOES : None ABSENT: None RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING INCREASE IN FEE FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES IN CONNECTION WITH THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION PROJECT RESOLUTION NO. 287, 97 INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, previously authorized the retention of the services of O'Brien & Gere Engineers, Inc., to provide engineering services in connection with the Queensbury Consolidated Water District Water Treatment Plant Expansion Project, and WHEREAS, O'Brien & Gere Engineers, Inc., has advised that during the course of construction of the Water Treatment Plant Expansion and 16" transmission main under the Northway, a number of issues have arisen, including an arbitration matter involving Wunderlich Construction, Inc., a contractor involved in the expansion project, in which O'Brien & Gere is providing assistance in resolving, and WHEREAS, letters from O'Brien & Gere Engineers, Inc., dated December 4, 1996, January 30, 1997 and February 21, 1997 outline the additional inspection and construction phase engineering services O'Brien & Gere has rendered to the Town which are above and beyond O'Brien & Gere's original scope of .. . engIlleenng servIces, NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes an increase in the fee due O'Brien & Gere Engineers, Inc., for inspection and construction phase services and services related to the Wunderlich arbitration regarding the Water Treatment Plant Expansion Project by $86,000 to cover additional costs to date and anticipated future costs, and BE IT FURTHER, RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby increases appropriations in the same fund out of which engineering services for the Water Treatment Plant Expansion have been previously authorized, and BE IT FURTHER, RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor to execute any documents necessary to effectuate the terms of this resolution. Duly adopted this 21st day of July, 1997, by the following vote: AYES : Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mr. Champagne NOES : None ABSENT: None RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING INTERFUND ADVANCES RESOLUTION NO. 288, 97 INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver WHEREAS, pursuant to ~9-A of the General Municipal Law of the State of New York, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is authorized to temporarily advance moneys held in any fund to any other fund, NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes the Town Comptroller to temporarily advance funds to the capital project fund as needed, up to the maximum amount indicated, as set forth below: FROM: TO: $ AMOUNT Queensbury Water Fund Water Treatment Plant $650,000 Expansion - Capital Project and BE IT FURTHER, RESOLVED, that the Town Comptroller shall keep suitable records and arrange for the repayment of the temporary advances as soon as available. Duly adopted this 21st day of July, 1997, by the following vote: AYES : Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr. Champagne NOES : None ABSENT: None Discussion Before Vote: Mr. Henry Hess, Controller recommended an amount of six hundred and fifty thousand dollars be inserted in the resolution and explained the following: The original financing was about two and a half million dollars less then the estimated cost of the contract at that time that it was started. Some of that was covered by a BAN, a million two hundred thousand dollar BAN last December. There was a grant for a filter replacement for two hundred and twelve thousand dollars. There's been interest earned on the, about three hundred and twenty-one thousand dollars since the project started but it still leaves an additional, approximately six hundred and fifty thousand dollars. I've given you a summary of the financing and the expenditures on that, that tie together but this is, the project is still coming in under original budget and under estimated cost, this is just the cash we need to finish off the project prior to deciding how to finance that last portion of it. That decision we expect to make probably in the next couple of months. There's a couple of issues out there. One is an environmental revolving loan that's going to be available to us maybe in April. There's a possible capital investment by one of the neighboring city's, Hudson Falls, that may cover this. There's possible appropriation of excess funds from the water fund if you want to look at that at that time. So what we're looking for right now is just to cover the final expenses on the project. Six hundred fifty thousand would be adequate. There's enough money in the water fund to lend the money to the capital project fund and that's what we're asking for approval on. (vote taken) PLANNED DISCUSSION OLD BUSINESS Supervisor Champagne announced the Open House this Saturday at the Water Treatment Plant from one to four. Dunham's Bay Road Supervisor Champagne-After conducting the public hearing regarding the no parking on Dunham's Bay Road, the board discussed this at workshop and the follow up of that is that the board, as you know tonight, hired Mr. Nace to do the engineering review. There's an expectation that the west side of the road will be elevated in order to come up somewhere more level with the Route 9L. There's a schedule to be put in place to repave the road to upgrade it. There's a rubbish container there that certainly needs to be removed and in terms of road signage, that will be determined at a later date by the attorney certainly along with the engineer and V&T law. As far as the no parking law that was going to be put in place, that has been waived and that will not be a part of the board's decision. Aviation Road Councilman Goedert questioned whether the engineering report from Scudder on Aviation Road has been received yet? Mr. Goralski, Executive Director-As far as I know, we haven't. I wasn't here last week but I didn't see it today. Supervisor Champagne-I haven't seen it. Mr. Goralski-I can check on that. NEW BUSINESS 1998 Town Budget Planning Mr. Hess, Controller reviewed handout submitted to the board in their meeting packages regarding the tentative time schedule for the 1998 budget process... need some input as far as the fiscal considerations you have that I should pass along to department managers when they submit their tentative budgets to me... Town Board held discussion, agreed that salaries will be determined by the board later in the process and not to place perimeters on budget increases... Supervisor Champagne noted the following upcoming Special Town Board meetings: 7/28 2:00 - State Controller's Office for exit interview 7/28 3 :30 - Negotiation package 7/30 7:00 - Scoping Session 8/18 6:00 - DOT presentation re: Aviation Road Bridge OPEN FORUM 7:20 P.M. Mr. John Salvadorreferred to Resolution 3.1, and questioned whether there is a scope of engineering services to be provided and what it includes? (Councilman Goedert gave her copy of the scope of services to Mr. Salvador) Councilman Monahan-John, you need to go to the letter that's attached to that, July 16th, 1997. Mr. Salvador-Under the terms of this letter, who will define the curb line? Supervisor Champagne-The engineer. Mr. Salvador-Would curbs be installed eventually? Supervisor Champagne-I wouldn't expect so, no. Mr. Salvador-There's no time schedule in this contract? Supervisor Champagne-That's correct. Mr. Salvador-Is there a budget? Supervisor Champagne-Yes, forty-eight hundred dollars to perform the services. Mr. Salvador-Resolution 3.2, Authorizing Emergency Interconnection, is there a cost on that? Supervisor Champagne-The city will be purchasing all materials and our force will be doing the project, the construction. Mr. Salvador-The Sweet Road Resolution, isn't that work ongoing right now? Is this an after the fact resolution? Supervisor Champagne-I haven't been up to Sweet Road, I can't answer that. Mr. Salvador-I have and the road is closed to traffic during the day? Councilman Goedert-Are you working on Sweet Road, Paul. Mr. Naylor, Highway Superintendent-Yes. Mr. Salvador-Is he doing drainage? I don't know, this could be an extra. Councilman Turner-No, this is the project. Mr. Salvador-The question is, is it an after the fact resolution? Has the work been engaged, is it ongoing before you authorized it and for how much? Councilman Turner-No, no, there was resolution 216 retaining Nace Engineering for nine thousand dollars for engineering and design on the 19th day of May. Mr. Salvador-Doesn't the resolution authorize the expenditure of funds? Supervisor Champagne-That's the correct. The Town Highway Superintendent shall present written bills and invoices to the Town Board concerning all expenses incurred for the project. He is there, it is under construction and this is a resolution that is authorizing that to happen for drainage. He does drainage all the time throughout the town, in many cases it's not Mr. Salvador-Yea, I understand. Supervisor Champagne-Okay. Mr. Salvador-Do you have an idea what this is going to cost? Councilman Turner-Yes, sixty-five to seventy thousand dollars. Mr. Salvador-Do you have a breakdown of this number? Supervisor Champagne-Yes. Mr. Salvador-Thank you. Ms. Barbara Bennett referred to resolution 3.2 and questioned what initiated it. Supervisor Champagne-In the city's avoidance plan, that connection was to have taken place some time ago. If something should happen at the water plant, that the city could feed back through into Queensbury and vice versa that Queensbury could feed the city if in fact something happened to their system. So, that's the real purpose and intent of what we're doing. Ms. Bennett-It's a permanent connection? Supervisor Champagne-Yes. Ms. Bennett-Where is it going to be located? Supervisor Champagne-I believe the connection is near, close proximity to the water towers but I honestly don't know for sure. Ms. Bennett-Are all Glens Falls twenty inch and Queensbury twenty-four inch? Councilman Monahan-No, it depends upon how much water they've got to move where. Supervisor Champagne-You could go to the water plant and meet with Mr. Flaherty, I'm sure he could take you through the entire town. Ms. Bennett -The water plant is having an open house, what hours are they having? Supervisor Champagne-It's one to four this Saturday. Ms. Bennett-Where John was talking about 3.4, the fact that you've got the word, performed, in there indicates that work was already done before you passed this resolution. Supervisor Champagne-The work is not done, it's underway. Councilman Monahan-The resolution in the body does say has performed but it's temporary measures in an effort to alleviate the drainage problems. Bill Minarchi, Brown's Welcome Inn-Referred to the Sweet Road project, questioned whether there's any consideration for a stop light at Sweet Road and Route 9? It's a harry situation going from two lanes to one and they are really chasing one another up that hill. Supervisor Champagne-As you know, there was some discussion early on when we were going to realign Sweet with Weeks Road, that project has been put aside, at least temporarily and to be very honest with you from where I sit here, I don't have any real conclusion or conclusive evidence that would indicate that we're in a position to do much of a stop light up there. Councilman Monahan-John, the state is going to be redoing Route 9 from Sweet Road to Route 149 and I have forgotten what they were going to do with the lanes right in that area, do you recall? Mr. Goralski, Executive Director-They're just repaving in that area. Councilman Monahan-They're not re-configuring anything there? Mr. Goralski, Executive Director-There maybe some sidewalks for handicapped access being contemplated and there will be some road cuts that are eliminated but basically it's mostly just repaving. Councilman Monahan-We maybe need to call to Joanna's attention this two lanes to one, it is a problem there. Mr. Minarchi-Some clarification should be made in approaching two lanes to one lane because nobody knows who has the right-of-way. I just thought I would bring that to your attention. Supervisor Champagne-Thank you. Mr. Pliney Tucker referred to the drainage on Sweet Road and questioned whether that was part of the project of redoing Sweet Road? Councilman Goedert -Yes. Mr. Tucker-Has there been a total cost determined? Councilman Turner-From the workshop, we got an estimated figure of sixty-five to seventy thousand dollars. Mr. Tucker-I'm talking about the total? Councilman Turner-That's the total cost. Mr. Tucker-That's everything? Councilman Turner-Yes. Mr. Tucker-Referred to the rumors about AMG and questioned whether they're in trouble again? Supervisor Champagne-I heard the same rumors you heard and I was over there Friday. I did ride around back, looked in the building and there was sparks flying in there. So beyond that, I can only say that they're still operating over there. Mr. Tucker-Are they making their payments to the town? Supervisor Champagne-We are behind in payments. Mr. Tucker-How much? Supervisor Champagne-Two months. Mr. Tucker-The draft contract for the Town of Moreau, has that been finalized? Supervisor Champagne-We have a draft contract that we've shared with the Town of Moreau and we're still doing some negotiations between the two municipalities to bring it in line. Mr. Tucker-When will that be available to the public? Supervisor Champagne-I would have no problem releasing it tonight or tomorrow unless the board has some concerns about that. Mr. Tucker questioned the resolution previously passed at last meeting regarding hiring the management group to take a look at a question that Betty had. Supervisor Champagne-Yes, three hundred and fifty dollars for a review of an ethics regulation. Mr. Tucker-Was there action taken by the Town Board to authorize that? Supervisor Champagne-Yes. Well wait a minute, action was taken to authorize the payment of the bill. Mr. Tucker-I know that but Supervisor Champagne-The way it came down Pliney was that, there had been discussion earlier on as far as I recall. I was unable to go back into the minutes and identify where that discussion occurred. So if you're saying to me Fred, did you error in making a phone call after Mrs. Monahan had requested this, then Pliney I'm in error. I think I stated that very clearly in paper. Mr. Tucker-Did you compound things by authorizing a payment of a bill that wasn't legally Supervisor Champagne-The board acted on that, I had three votes that approved the payment of that bill. Mr. Tucker-I know that Fred, I was here. It just seems to me that the original move wasn't authorized and then I just can't see how the board can take action to Supervisor Champagne-What would you suggest, if you don't like the way it worked itself out, tell me what you would do, Pliney? I'm always looking for the right answer. Mr. Tucker-Well Fred, I don't. Supervisor Champagne-I don't know what your point is other then what's already been told or said. Mr. Tucker-Well, first of all, I don't care who is sitting up there, I like them to obey the law. Supervisor Champagne-Absolutely, try to do that twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week but every once in awhile, I suppose something gets slipped through the cracks and I'll be more then happy to take the heat for it. Mr. Tucker-I mean, we have an attorney on staff and I don't know, we pay him a hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year is it, to tell you people what is right or wrong. If we're not going to believe him, end his contract and we'll spend the hundred and fifty thousand somewhere else. Councilman Monahan-Pliney, may I interject something please. As you well know, many of us go to a doctor and we get an opinion, alright. We also think that maybe sometimes when it's something that could be very troublesome or needs confirmation, we also go for a second opinion. My concern was because the fact that Amtek is the one that put together our employee personnel and our whole policies on everything and I had some definite concerns because of the confidentiality issue, I said to Fred, I have some concerns, I would appreciate having a second opinion from our labor specialists. They are specialists in this, alright. As a Cancer Specialist, is a specialist. I don't know, but frankly when we were involved in cancer, we weren't satisfied with just the answers from the Cancer Specialists in Glens Falls, we went to other places. I would rather take and get a second opinion now in this then have to eat something later on because maybe we didn't investigate it further. Now the methodology, I think I will agree, Fred will agree, was wrong. We did the resolution to extend the contract for special services unfortunately this phone call was made, not because anybody was trying to do anything but by accident before the contract was approved to get further services from them. I think everybody agrees that the methodology was wrong. It was an honest mistake, it was also a feeling that this would be a quick yes or no. Frankly, I don't think anybody is going to dispute with you, as I said, the methodology is wrong. But on the other hand, I don't think this is the kind of an error that is of the major importance that some people are trying to make it out. Mr. Tucker-Well, I wasn't concerned so much about the reason for it being done, I was concerned about how was it done. Councilman Monahan-And I think, we have said that the methodology was wrong. Mr. Tucker-I agree with you. Okay, I agree with you. Done, enough said. Referred to the park at the end of Big Boom Road and questioned the completion date? Councilman Goedert-I was at the Rec Commission meeting, I thought they were looking for completion for the middle of July. I was away on vacation and I got back today and I see that they're still working down there. Mr. Tucker-I had some conversations with Mr. Naylor on paving that seven tenths of road down there and he said if he could find the money, he would get it done. Councilman Goedert-That was discussed at Highway Committee, we're going to wait until the roads that are in the paving plan are done and we would look at the money that was left over at that point. We also made stance that we would possibly talk with the state since they are the ones using the road to go down there and fix the bridge, to see maybe if they would give us a helping hand with that. It is in the works but it won't be done until the end of the paving season because it was not put in the paving plan. Mr. Tucker-Questioned the two hundred thousand dollars for the planning of Corinth Road the county received. Supervisor Champagne-It's been proposed that two hundred thousand dollars be available for that purpose. Mr. John Schriner-Referred to the work proposed for Dunham's Bay Road and questioned whether someone from the town will be working with the engineer? Supervisor Champagne-Mr. Naylor or someone from the Highway Department will be there with Mr. Nace to set the project up and follow along. Councilman Goedert-The resolution also states they will work with the surveying company, VanDusen and Steves. Mr. Schriner-My concern is that I would like someone to mention to them about this culvert going into my boat slip. Supervisor Champagne-I believe that's already, or will be identified. Mr. Schriner-My second thing, it's my understanding that there is a headwall in that, on the Dunham's Bay Road side and it might be a good idea to have them look into that plan of that 9L State Road in 1928 and see if there is one there. It might be worth while mentioning it to them. Councilman Monahan-John, Mr. Nace's proposal reads, periodical meetings with the Town Board, Highway Committee and Highway Department personnel to obtain input and feedback necessary for the design and to keep all involved apprised of the progress and details of the design. Mr. Salvador-The concern with the culvert is, if we're not careful, we could be subjected to the second flooding. I could just see them plugging it up, that takes care of the runoff and that would back up behind the dam that's formed by Route 9L now. Mr. George Drellos-Being a mobile home park owner every year we get hit with this transient merchant, I think it's called, ten dollars per home in our park. I think all mobile home parks have that. Mr. Goralski, Executive Director-The mobile home license. Mr. Drellos- Yes. What do we get for this money? Mr. Goralski, Executive Director-I'm assume it's to pay for the inspection. Every year the mobile home parks are inspected. Councilman Goedert -George, how many lots do you have in your mobile home park? Mr. Drellos- There's eighty-five total. Councilman Goedert-So that's eight hundred and fifty dollars. Mr. Drellos-Every year. I mean where does this money go or what do you do for us with this money? Mr. Goralski, Executive Director-We go through, we make sure we have permits for all the mobile homes that are in there. Mr. Drellos-Every year. Mr. Goralski, Executive Director-Every year. Councilman Monahan-I think you need to read the regulations for a mobile home park and then you will see what they're going in there to look for and what they're inspecting because there is some definite regulations relative to that. Supervisor Champagne-There's an issue here and we need to take a look at it. Mr. Salvador-As you move to instill some fairness in your taxation of mobile home parks and RV parks, I would hope that you not attack a transient form of mobile home that we service on our premises called a boat. Councilman Pulver questioned the status of Queensbury Forest? Supervisor Champagne-Fraiser Engineering was up there, they set up, I believe last Monday, they have their core drill units in place and we're looking to find if in fact there's some property in around there that we could use to look at that water without using the city. Councilman Pulver-Did they set anymore wells? Supervisor Champagne-Yes. Mr. Goralski, Executive Director-I don't know if they actually drilled them, they have moved in and were setting up. I don't know what's actually been completed. OPEN FORUM CLOSED 8:00 P.M. NO EXECUTIVE SESSION RESOLUTION TO ADJOURN MEETING RESOLUTION NO. 289, 97 INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert WHO MOVED FOR IT'S ADOPTION SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns. Duly adopted this 21st day of July, 1997, by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Champagne NOES: None ABSENT: None No further action taken. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED, DARLEEN M. DOUGHER TOWN CLERK TOWN OF QUEENSBURY