1999-05-03
REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING
MAY 3,1999
7:00 P.M.
MTG#9
RES#147-167
B.H. 17-22
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT
SUPERVISOR FRED CHAMPAGNE
COUNCILMAN RICHARD MERRILL
COUNCILMAN THEODORE TURNER
COUNCILMAN DOUGLAS IRISH
COUNCILMAN PLINEY TUCKER
TOWN COUNSEL
MARK SCHACHNER
BEN PRATT
TOWN OFFICIALS
HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT, P AUL NAYLOR
WATER SUPERINTENDENT, RALPH VAN DUSEN
DIRECTOR OF WASTEWATER, MIKE SHAW
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, CHRIS ROUND
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING AND CODES, DAVE HATIN
CONTROLLER, HENRY HESS
WARREN COUNTY SUPERVISORS
DENNIS BROWER
PRESS
POST STAR
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCILMAN THEODORE TURNER
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Opened meeting.
RESOLUTION CALLING FOR QUEENSBURY BOARD OF HEALTH
RESOLUTION NO. 147.99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Douglas Irish
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from Regular Session and
enters into the Queensbury Board of Health.
Duly adopted this 3rd day of May, 1999, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Merrill, Mr. Turner, Mr. Irish, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Champagne
Noes: None
AbsentNone
BOARD OF HEALTH PUBLIC HEARINGS
SANITARY SEW AGE DISPOSAL VARIANCE IRENE MORGAN
OPENED
7:01 P.M.
NOTICE SHOWN
PRESENT: MRS. MORGAN
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Do you want to tell us a little bit about what you are asking for. I
understand it is eight six feet from a well.
MRS. MORGAN-From my own well.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-From her well as required by a hundred foot setback that's the only one
you are seeking is that correct?
MRS. MORGAN-That's right.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Anyone here speaking against this request? Comments from the board?
NO PUBLIC COMMENT
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Everybody all set with it? Are we ready to move forward?
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-I see no problem with it Fred having reviewed the plans.
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-I just asked Dave if he was agreeable and he is.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SEWAGE DISPOSAL VARIANCE
FOR IRENE MORGAN
RESOLUTION NO.: 17.99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Pliney Tucker
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Douglas Irish
WHEREAS, Irene Morgan previously filed an application for a variance from provisions of the
Town of Queensbury On-Site Sewage Disposal Ordinance, such application requesting that the Local
Board of Health grant a variance for her new septic system to be located eighty-six feet (86') from her well
in lieu of the required one-hundred feet (100') setback on property located at 8 Reardon Road Extension,
Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, the Town Clerk's Office published the Notice of Public Hearing in the Town's
official newspaper and the Local Board of Health conducted a public hearing concerning the variance
request on May 3rd, 1999, and
WHEREAS, the Town Clerk advises that property owners within 500 feet of the subject property
have been duly notified,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED,
a) that due to the nature of the variance, it is felt that the variance would not be materially
detrimental to the purposes and objectives of this Ordinance or to other adjoining properties or otherwise
conflict with the purpose and objectives of any plan or policy of the Town of Queensbury; and
b) that the Local Board of Health finds that the granting of the variance is necessary for the
reasonable use of the land and that the variance granted is the minimum variance which would alleviate the
specific unnecessary hardship found by the Local Board of Health to affect the applicant; and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town of Queensbury Local Board of Health hereby approves the
application of Irene Morgan for a variance from the Sewage Disposal Ordinance to allow her septic system
to be located eighty-six feet (86') from her well in lieu of the required one-hundred feet (100') setback on
property situated at 8 Reardon Road Extension, Queensbury and bearing Tax Map No.: 44-2-25.
Duly adopted this 3rd day of May, 1999, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Turner, Mr. Irish, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Merrill, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
SANITARY SEW AGE DISPOSAL VARIANCE MARK SPRINGER
OPENED
7:05 P.M.
NOTICE SHOWN
PRESENT: MR. SPRINGER, AGENT JIM VARANO
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Mark do you want to tell us a little bit about what you are intending to do?
MR. SPRINGER-I believe you have a copy of the sketch of what we are proposing in front of you.
Essentially on the second story of the building we are proposing to open up the roofto an area that is
currently being used as, I call it storage, because of the pitch of the roof that particular floor space isn't
really what you would consider to be living space. It is about a third of the actual floor space on the second
story on that particular side. We are just proposing to raise the roof about a foot and then make the angle
because the pitch of the roof is such that you could actually walk in there what we really need is a little
elbow room.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-How many additional square feet will you be adding to it?
MR. SPRINGER-I'm at a little disadvantage my contractor isn't here he was suppose to be here at seven. I
don't have that number in front of me.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-You are not moving the roofto create additional living space?
MR. SPRINGER-Do you have a copy of this . (Offmic, Mr. Springer explained to Councilman Irish his
plans).
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-Mark it is probably not fair if your developer isn't here, your engineer, but I
do have a question about the two seepage pits. The absorptive area that you figured was for each individual
pit by itself. The two pits are next to each other on the two walls that abut each other there is not really
absorptive area there. I think your effective absorptive area is somewhat less than you've shown in the
drawing.
MR. SPRINGER-I couldn't answer that question. We had a civil engineer come out to take a look at it they
dug it up and got the measurements that's how we got the back to back pit description that you probably
have in front of you.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-But, you don't have the separation distance between them so your effective
area is really about seventy percent of what's required by code.
MR. SPRINGER-Okay.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-And that's existing now?
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-Existing.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-You are not adding any additional bedroom or bathroom or anything like that
right?
MR. SPRINGER-Not at all.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-Just raising the roofto make more room in the area that's already there?
MR. SPRINGER-Correct. There is no plumbing involved at all.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-I do have some concerns about this Mark because several years ago the
Comprehensive Land Use Committee took a hard look at the septic systems in the Rockhurst area
specifically. There was concern about any impact that any addition would have on the systems. In this
case this is highly non-compliant as you know. The concern is any increase in house area
could have heavier loading on the system and lead to premature failure because a non-standard system is
more subject to failure than a standard or a system that's to compliance so we are concerned about that. If
this system should fail I think you are going to have a very major problem even putting in holding tanks
here because it is a tight lot as you know. But, that's the reasoning behind it any expansion of any type
could lead to heavier loading on the system.
MR. SPRINGER-I just like to point out that the square footage we're attempting to add isn't for additional
people it is only my wife and I we have no children. We're just looking to get a little bit more elbow room.
Currently upstairs we have a couch, a loveseat, recliner, and end table and a floor model television in that
area that's there now. It is a little difficult to actually recline in the recliner all we're just trying to do is
open it up a little bit it's not like we're going to put more people or more beds the house already has two
bedrooms.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-But, the concern is what could happen to the space at some future time. It
could be converted to bedrooms, it could increase the septic loading this is a difficult situation, I know. I
think the other thing is a fairness issue here. There have been a number of individuals who have brought
their systems into compliance voluntarily before expansion. I do know of others who have not expanded
even though they would like to because they know they cannot bring a system into compliance. I think we
need to be consistent in how we apply the code. I guess, I would like to get Dave's opinion on this too.
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING & CODES, MR. HATIN-I don't know if! understand your question could
you clarify it a little bit?
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-I've guess you've looked at this do you recommend allowing this variance or
not?
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING AND CODES, MR. HATIN-I have to say the property is only seventy feet
deep obviously you can't fit any conforming septic system on the property. A holding tank most likely
would be the replacement for this system if it does fail. There is just no room to expand the existing system
or even make it compliant.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I guess that was going to be my question. What else would you do with it?
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING AND CODES, MR. HATIN-The depth of the property I believe if!
remember right from looking at the map last week is seventy feet at its farthest point. You have the road
right there so there is no room to expand. It most likely would be a holding tank situation I would think
when it does fail.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-Is that a retaining wall off the back with the stairs that go down? So you wouldn't
be able to put anything over in there as far as any additional seepage pits?
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-It is to close to the lake.
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING AND CODES, MR. HATIN-The one thing we didn't get from the engineer
when the engineer looked at it we got no report as to the condition of the system as it sits there either all we
got was the size and the location that was it.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-Maybe we should have them check the condition of the existing pit before........
You hate to grant a variance if the pit is failing anytime soon. By the same token if it is in good shape
doesn't pose a problem for the future anytime soon maybe we would like somebody to take a look at that.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-We had a question about the absorptive area apparently it was calculated for
each pit separately, but the two pits abut each other so I think your affected area is less than you've shown
on the drawing. Your seepage pit should be separated by I think probably up to thirty feet in this case.
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING AND CODES, MR. HATIN-Three times the diameter.
AGENT, MR. VARANO-They are end to end they are not side to side.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-They are end to end so that reduces the effective absorptive area right?
AGENT, MR. V ARANO-I don't know I'm not an engineer. According to the engineer that looked at it he
said it seemed to be fine.
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-When was this done?
AGENT, MR. VARANO-When?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-ApriI3rd, according to this date on McCormack's plan.
AGENT, MR. VARANO-He checked the soils as well.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-I do have a problem with the calculation as shown. Has anybody checked the
condition of the pits?
AGENT, MR. V ARANO-Oh, yeah we had them opened.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-And?
AGENT, MR. VARANO-They are in good condition. One of them was broke last year from a concrete
truck and it has been replaced, but that's only the top. The sidewalls were in good condition and that's the
important part.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-Any idea of the age of the system?
AGENT, MR. V ARANO- That's a tough one. I'm a mason and I can see the actual concrete it's in good
shape. It is not depulverized or deteriorated or anything like that it is in pretty good shape.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-Cast system or cement block layout?
AGENT, MR. VARANO-Cast. The other ones the seepage pits are block they are CMU's they are not
cinder block so they are concrete units.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-Have you checked the seepage pits?
AGENT, MR. VARANO-Yes, I have that's the ones I'm talking about.
COUNCILMA N MERRILL-Okay.
AGENT, MR. VARANO-The other one is a full concrete unit.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-Full concrete.
AGENT, MR. VARANO-The soils around it according to Mr. McCormack were good percolating
soils. . . . . we dug down to the bottom.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-So we are starting out with what is existing two hundred and eight square
feet of seepage. The code calls for two hundred and fifty in that type of soil is that correct Dave?
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-Fred I come up with a hundred and seven six effective.
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING AND CODES, MR. HATIN-That absorptive area is basically the open area
that goes in the pit. It doesn't take into consideration the... . around it.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-The effectiveness of the two pits together is not the same as two separate
ones.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Are they right tight?
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING AND CODES, MR. HATIN-You would lose the absorptive area beyond....
AGENT, MR. V ARANO- That four foot section.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-Is there four feet between them?
AGENT, MR. VARANO-They are four feet wide and they are about a foot apart. Overall there is a
spanning of! think seventeen foot the distance between the two.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-They are not effective in that area. It's not as if you had a thirty foot
separation.
AGENT, MR. VARANO-Yes, four feet of it.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-They are not leaching between the two tanks they are connected between the two
tanks or are they actually leaching out from the ends of both tanks?
AGENT, MR. VARANO-There is a wall in between thern.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-So you've got them connected so that they don't leach between the two tanks.
AGENT, MR. V ARANO- That's correct. They are like this right next to each other.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-So it is like one big tank.
AGENT, MR. V ARANO- That's exactly what its like.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-So you end up with about a hundred and seventy six square feet and that's
about seventy percent of what's required by code. I think the other aspect here is I think the camp now is
twenty three percent for the land use area, it occupies twenty three percent of the square footage. Again,
the zoning code limits it to twenty two percent so we're expanding beyond what is allowed by the zoning
code.
AGENT, MR. VARANO-Actually what we're doing here is just lifting one dormer.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-I recognize what you are doing. Any expansion could in the future lead to
more use, could be bedrooms for kids who knows what. My concern is premature failure of the system.
Also consistent application of the code because as I pointed out earlier other applicants have voluntarily
brought their system into compliance when they could. I do know of instances where people are not
expanding because they can't. I really have a problem here in that area with the density, I am very familiar
with the area.
AGENT, MR. VARANO-It's a two bedroom right now.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-By opening up the upstairs it could be expanded at a future time to more
bedrooms.
AGENT, MR. VARANO-That room is opened it is considered.....
MR. SPRINGER-Two thirds of it is already opened.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Is that now the second bedroom that were talking about?
MR. SPRINGER-No, I refer to it as a den.
AGENT, MR. V ARANO-It'sjust that there is not enough head room in there yet. What would determine it
to be a bedroom would be a closet and there is no closet in there or in the plans. This is just giving
somebody a little bit more headroom than the top of the stairs.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-How large a room is that what is the square footage of that room?
AGENT, MR. V ARANO-Offthe top of my head I'm going to say about a hundred and fifty square feet.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-How much additional area do you gain by going up with the roof square footage?
AGENT, MR. VARANO-It would be a hundred and fifty square feet. Actually you can over it but it starts
to pitch straight out and you can't really walk in that area so it goes up it's a lofted ceiling.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-How much additional... ....
AGENT, MR. VARANO-Floor space.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-Let me put it another way. You are not going to gain any additional floor space by
raising that up that you can't use right now is that correct?
AGENT, MR. VARANO-That's correct.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-It is not a very convenient room to function in right.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-The present floor area ratio is twenty three percent I don't know if that
includes that area or not.
AGENT, MR. VARANO-Yeah, it does.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-It does.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Dave have we issued variances in the past where this type of situation has
arisen?
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING & CODES, MR. HATIN-No.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-It's a variance that is very uncommon. It's pretty standard procedures and
we held fairly tight to any expansion up goes the septic system.
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING & CODES, MR. HATIN-The reason for this whole variance is the Zoning
Ordinance which requires now that you upgrade your septic system when you increase floor area or living
space that's what triggered this. You used to come to the Zoning Board for a variance from that section
there since been a change in the way that's this is done now it is sent to the Town Board the Zoning Board
has asked it to be sent to the Town Board under the Board of Health action. What they are asking you to do
basically is maintain the existing system in contrary to the provisions in the Zoning Ordinance. That's what
triggered it to come here. Typically before that change in the Zoning Code this wouldn't have come to the
board so this in the first one actually.
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-What has the ZBA been doing with them?
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING & CODES, MR. HATIN-They've only had one go to them right Chris?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, MR. ROUND-They've had several it still
requires a dual review both by ZBA and Town Board. It is still a relief from the Town Board of Health in
granting the relief. Has one similar from this been granted it's tough to say they are all unique.
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-Did I misunderstand you, you said it didn't used to work this way or what?
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING AND CODES, MR. HATIN-No. There was one I know of that went to the
Zoning Board for a request for a variance from the section of the Zoning Ordinance, but this section is also
in the Sanitary Sewage Ordinance so the Zoning Board has requested the Town Board to issue these type
variances not the Zoning Board because they deal with the board of health issues.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-We're in new ground. We do have to recognize we're in the critical
environmental area that septic's are very critical here because of the spacing to the lake it is drinking water
that's a very sensitive area. I'mjust concerned about any additional loading that might occur on those pits
leading to failure.
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-Are they increasing the square footage Dick?
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-They are increasing the usable area.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-They are improving really the interior space if you will of what's there
currently by giving it more head room that's really all you are doing the square footage remains the same
it's just a matter of more functional space.
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-No additional plumbing or nothing?
MR. SPRINGER-No.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-No plumbing. Anything more you want to add any more comments from
the public.
MR. SPRINGER-I just add one final note. I know you mentioned that others have volunteered to upgrade
their system and I certainly would do so as well, but I don't know where I could go with it.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I think we see that very clearly you are kind oflocked in.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-Could we get a stipulation from you relative to the upper floor that it would
never be used for a bedroom?
MR. SPRINGER-Absolutely.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-We would want that in writing.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-For storage or for living, but not for bedroom.
MR. SPRINGER-Absolutely.
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-Are you comfortable with that Dick?
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-Yeah. I've shared my concern and I think you are concerned as much as the
rest of us.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-He is pretty limited as to what he can do. If we can get a stipulation from him
with that then you can take care of it. The stipulation goes with the land.
MR. SPRINGER-That's fine.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-Do you want a deed restriction on it.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-I want something a stipulation signed by him and sent to the Town as far as the
vanance.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-Our concern isn't with you Mark, but when you sell it and somebody moves in
with fifteen kids.
MR. SPRINGER-I understand. I'mjust as concerned about the lake as everyone else is.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-The Town can't enforce that though that's civil litigation.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-That's refer to Mark.
TOWN COUNSEL, MR. SCHACHNER-Generally correct except that in this case since the reason for the
deed restriction would be in fact a condition of the Town granting a variance what I would suggest is that if
you in fact make a motion to approve this that the condition be submitted in writing the condition that the
upper floor will not be used as a bedroom and a deed restriction in a form acceptable to Town Counsel we
will make sure that it is enforceable by the Town.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-Okay.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-That satisfies you Mark?
MR. SPRINGER-Sure.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Anything more?
DEPUTY CLERK, O'BRIEN-I have two letters to read. This letter is from Helen Noonan and she lives at
66 Rockhurst Road.
With reference to the application by Mark Springer for a septic variance for his property located at
Rockhurst Point, Lake George, this letter is to advise you that I have absolutely no objection to his
application.
Thank you,
Helen S. Noonan
Dr. and Mrs. Henry Nagamatsu:
To Whom It May Concern:
As property owners since 1960 on Rockhurst, Lake George, we feel that everyone should be
required to adhere to septic tank requirements of the Town Code.
Sincerely,
Henry & Emily Nagamatsu
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Anything more from board members?
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED 7:28 P.M.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SEWAGE DISPOSAL
VARIANCE FOR MARK SPRINGER
RESOLUTION NO.: 18.99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Douglas Irish
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Richard Merrill
WHEREAS, Mark Springer previously filed an application for a variance from provisions of the
Town of Queensbury On-Site Sewage Disposal Ordinance, such application requesting that the Local
Board of Health grant a variance to allow continuance of the use of the existing septic system instead of
upgrading the system as required by Town Code (136-12 on property situated at Rockhurst Point, Lake
George in the Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, the Town Clerk's Office published the Notice of Public Hearing in the Town's
official newspaper and the Local Board of Health conducted a public hearing concerning the variance
request on May 3rd, 1999, and
WHEREAS, the Town Clerk advises that property owners within 500 feet of the subject property
have been duly notified,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED,
a) that due to the nature of the variance, it is felt that the variance would not be materially
detrimental to the purposes and objectives of this Ordinance or to other adjoining properties or otherwise
conflict with the purpose and objectives of any plan or policy of the Town of Queensbury; and
b) that the Local Board of Health finds that the granting of the variance is necessary for the
reasonable use of the land and that the variance granted is the minimum variance which would alleviate the
specific unnecessary hardship found by the Local Board of Health to affect the applicant; and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the condition be submitted in writing the condition that the upper floor will not
be used as a bedroom and in a deed restriction in a form acceptable to Town Counsel, and
BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED, that the Town of Queensbury Local Board of Health hereby approves the
application of Mark Springer for a variance from the Sewage Disposal Ordinance to allow continuance of
the use of the existing septic system instead of upgrading the system as required by Town Code (136-12, on
property situated at Rockhurst Point, Lake George in the Town of Queensbury and bearing Tax Map No.:
15-1-44.
Duly adopted this 3rd day of May, 1999, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Irish, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Merrill, Mr. Turner, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
DISCUSSION HELD BEFORE VOTE:
COUNCILMAN TURNER-We still have to put in for the stipulation.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-I move that we approve the sewage disposal variance for Mark Springer with the
stipulation that he provide Town Counsel with a deed restriction stating that the area being approved will
not be used for a bedroom and will only be used as living space.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-And will never be sold and never be utilized forever, right now because when
he gets ready to sell it he is going to sell it and the other guy is going to walk in there that set up restrictions
has got to cover the guy that is going to buy the property.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-An acceptable deed restriction as submitted to the Town Counsel.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-Sound fair Mark?
MR. SPRINGER-Will someone provide me with some formal ofletter of what I just agreed to.
DEPUTY CLERK, O'BRIEN-I will send you a certified copy of the resolution.
SANITARY SEW AGE DISPOSAL ORDINANCE MAY SUPPLY
OPENED
NOTICE SHOWN
AGENT IVAN BELL-IBS SEPTIC
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-We'll open the public hearing on the May Supply sewage disposal.
Anyone here to speak for or against, yes sir.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-You are installing a new septic system to code right?
MR. BELL-As far as I know the only thing we need the variance for was crossing the water... .from the
lake. It is going to come on the far left hand side of the property so we only need to cross it one time.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-This one I don't have any problem with.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-And you are going to be within ten feet right?
MR. BELL-Yep.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-Of the water line not a well right?
MR. BELL-Right of the water line not a well.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-The water line from the lake copper?
MR. BELL-To be honest with you I'm not sure what the material of the water line is coming from the lake.
I assume it is probably poly not copper.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-The only one that would have a complaint would be the owner if
something broke. I have to be honest with you when I first read this people run sewer lines over and above
water lines all the time, but then I learned that this was suction and not force pump I guess there would be a
difference if the line broke.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-That's what I'm thinking.
MR. BELL-It will be heavy wall pipe.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Anything from the public?
KATHLEEN SALVADOR-Just a question. We were at the ZBA meeting when this particular septic came
up and you said that the water supply is suction. I think they said at that meeting that the pump is inside the
house and Mr. Merrill doesn't see a problem with that.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-I see a pump house down by the boathouse.
MRS. SALVADOR-But, it is a suction system not a forced system. It has got to be forced otherwise there
could be a problem there. There could be negative pressure and it could containment the water if it's not
forced.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-It is forced.
MRS. SAL V ADOR- They just said it was suction not forced.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-I'm sorry what I was looking at there is a pump house down by the dock so I
was assuming it was forced.
MR. BELL-You were thinking the pump was up in the house.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-If it's up in the house it's suction.
MR. BELL-To be honest with you I'm not sure where the pump is if it's down by the lake or by the house.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-It is shown right by the boathouse.
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING AND CODES, MR. HATIN-IfI could clarify according to the contractor the
pump is in the house.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-It is suction.
MRS. SALVADOR-So it's suction not forced. That was my only point I think there could be
contamination then.
MR. BELL-I think as long as we take the right measures with the sewer line coming out of that bathroom
on that side we won't have any problems. It is going to be heavy wall sewer pipe the chances of that
breaking. You know if he wants us so we can back fill and sand just to be extra careful with it.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Anyone else from the public?
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED 7:30 P.M.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SEWAGE DISPOSAL
VARIANCE FOR MAY SUPPLY
RESOLUTION NO.: 19.99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Douglas Irish
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Pliney Tucker
WHEREAS, May Supply previously filed an application for a variance from provisions of the
Town of Queensbury On-Site Sewage Disposal Ordinance, such application requesting that the Local
Board of Health grant a variance to allow a leach field to be located ten feet (10') from a water line in lieu
of the required one-hundred feet (100') setback on property located at 22 Honeysuckle Lane, Assembly
Point, Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, the Town Clerk's Office published the Notice of Public Hearing in the Town's
official newspaper and the Local Board of Health conducted a public hearing concerning the variance
request on May 3rd, 1999, and
WHEREAS, the Town Clerk advises that property owners within 500 feet of the subject property
have been duly notified,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED,
a) that due to the nature of the variance, it is felt that the variance would not be materially
detrimental to the purposes and objectives of this Ordinance or to other adjoining properties or otherwise
conflict with the purpose and objectives of any plan or policy of the Town of Queensbury; and
b) that the Local Board of Health finds that the granting of the variance is necessary for the
reasonable use of the land and that the variance granted is the minimum variance which would alleviate the
specific unnecessary hardship found by the Local Board of Health to affect the applicant; and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town of Queensbury Local Board of Health hereby approves the
application of May Supply for a variance from the Sewage Disposal Ordinance to allow a leach field to be
located ten feet (10') from a water line in lieu of the required one-hundred feet (100') setback on property
situated at 22 Honeysuckle Lane, Assembly Point, Queensbury and bearing Tax Map No.: 8-5-11.
Duly adopted this 3rd day of May, 1999, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Tucker, Mr. Merrill, Mr. Turner, Mr. Irish, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION SETTING PUBLIC HEARING ON SEWAGE DISPOSAL VARIANCE APPLICATION
OF PATRICIA BERRY
RESOLUTION NO.: 20.99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Pliney Tucker
WHEREAS, by law the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is also the Town's Local Board
of Health and is authorized under Chapter 136 of the Town of Queensbury On-Site Sewage Disposal
Ordinance to issue variances from the Ordinance, and
WHEREAS, Patricia Berry has applied to the Local Board of Health for a variance from Chapter
136, Tables 5 & 6, to allow 251 square feet of absorptive area rather than the required 375 square feet on
property located at 3 Colonial Court in the Town of Queensbury,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Local Board of Health for the Town of Queensbury will hold a public
hearing on May 17th, 1999 at 7 :00 p.m. at the Queensbury Activities Center, 742 Bay Road, Queensbury,
to consider the sewage disposal variance application of Patricia Berry concerning property located at 3
Colonial Court in the Town of Queensbury and bearing Tax Map No.: Section 92, Block I, Lot 1.170 and
at that time all interested persons will be heard, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Local Board of Health authorizes and directs the Queensbury Town Clerk to
publish the Notice of Public Hearing presented at this meeting and send a copy of the Notice to neighbors
located within 500 feet of Ms. Berry's property as required by law.
Duly adopted this 3rd day of May, 1999, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Merrill, Mr. Turner, Mr. Irish, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION SETTING PUBLIC HEARING ON SEWAGE DISPOSAL VARIANCE APPLICATION
OF FRANCIS KOENIG
RESOLUTION NO.: 21. 99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Douglas Irish
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Richard Merrill
WHEREAS, by law the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is also the Town's Local Board
of Health and is authorized under Chapter 136 of the Town of Queensbury On-Site Sewage Disposal
Ordinance to issue variances from the Ordinance, and
WHEREAS, Francis Koenig has applied to the Local Board of Health for three (3) variances from
Chapter 136 as follows:
1. (136-11(B) of the Town Code requires an applicant to obtain a variance for all holding tanks and the
applicant has requested a variance to allow a holding tank;
1. The applicant has requested a variance to locate the proposed holding tank thirty feet (30') from the well
in lieu of the required fifty feet (50') setback;
1. Although the applicant proposes to install the holding tank below grade as required by (136-11(B)(l8), a
variance is requested as the grade will be less than the required fifty feet (50') distance from the radius of
the holding tank due to rock ledges;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Local Board of Health for the Town of Queensbury will hold a public
hearing on May 17th, 1999 at 7 :00 p.m. at the Queensbury Activities Center, 742 Bay Road, Queensbury,
to consider Francis Koenig's application for three sewage disposal variances concerning his property
situated on Hanneford Road, Queensbury and bearing Tax Map No.: Section 19, Block I, Lot 13 and at
that time all interested persons will be heard, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Local Board of Health authorizes and directs the Queensbury Town Clerk to
publish the Notice of Public Hearing presented at this meeting and send a copy of the Notice to neighbors
located within 500 feet of the Mr. Koenig's property as required by law.
Duly adopted this 3rd day of May, 1999, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Turner, Mr. Irish, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Merrill, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
DISCUSSION HELD BEFORE VOTE:
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Questioned if this was pulled before and this is the reason for this
resolution?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. ROUND-It is a new application.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-Questioned didn't they just receive a letter from the Attorney stating that holding
tanks aren't permitted?
TOWN COUNSEL, MR. SCHACHNER-No. Had a letter from Dave Hatin go out that said holding tanks
are not permitted on year round residences.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-Questioned if this is presently year round?
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING AND CODES, MR. HATIN-No this is seasonal.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-Questioned if there is a plan to build a new camp?
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING AND CODES, MR. HATIN-Believes that plan has been scrapped he will be
pulling his application before the Zoning Board he may be coming back for some type of modification to
the existing one.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-This is to improve the existing system?
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING AND CODES, MR. HATIN-Correct.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-Questioned if they need a variance from distance from a stream bed because
there is a stream that flows through there is that required?
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING AND CODES, MR. HATIN-Will have to look into this thought they were in
compliance with that.
RESOLUTION ADJOURNING QUEENSBURY BOARD OF HEALTH
RESOLUTION NO. 22. 99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Douglas Irish
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from the Queensbury
Board of Health and moves back into the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury.
Duly adopted this 3rd day of May, 1999, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Irish, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Merrill, Mr. Turner, Mr. Champagne
Noes: None
AbsentNone
PUBLIC HEARING VARIANCE CHAPTER 113 OF TOWN CODE REGARDING MOBILE HOME
PARK OWNED BY ROBERTA CONVERSE
OPENED 7:36 P.M.
NOTICE SHOWN
ATTORNEY BRUCE CARR REPRESENTING ROBERTA CONVERSE
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Tell us a little bit about what is going to happen.
ATTORNEY BRUCE CARR, FROM FITZGERALD, MORRIS, BAKER AND FIRTH,
REPRESENTING ROBERTA CONVERSE-She owns a fifteen acre parcel and on that parcel there is I
think a forty nine lot mobile home park that's already been approved by the town many years ago as well as
single family homes. At this time she is seeking subdivision separating the mobile home park for the single
family home section. The line that is being proposed though does not meet the twenty five foot setback
between the last lot for mobile home and the side lot for the adjoining property.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-Is it only one lot that is affected on both sides of the property line?
ATTORNEY CARR-Yes.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-It's not the entire length of the boundary?
ATTORNEY CARR-It looks to be about seventy feet she can't make the twenty five it's toward the rear of
the property. She will be the adjoining neighbor in this case. We meet all the other setbacks to all the other
side lots. We can obtain about eleven and a half feet so we are seeking a variance of thirteen and a half
feet.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-You are saying it is just one lot that is affected by this?
ATTORNEY CARR-Yes. If you look at the map in front of you it's just that one lot would be affected. I
think the lot if I'm not mistaken is like fifty five feet long, no it's got to be a hundred feet long.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-Could you point it out.
MAP PRESENTED TO BOARD
COUNCILMAN IRISH-Hey Bruce, these are single family residential right?
ATTORNEY CARR-She lives actually right here. Her daughter lives here and her son lives here.
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-What is the reason she is asking for the subdivision?
ATTORNEY CARR-She is selling the mobile home park. Her husband died this past fall she is selling the
park.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-So up to this point it's all been on one deed?
ATTORNEY CARR-It's all been one big fifteen acre parcel. She meets the minimum acreage I think for a
mobile home park it's ten this is going to turn out to probably be about ten and a half to eleven acres
remaining with the mobile home park and she'll have five acres for the single family homes.
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-How do you feel about this Chris?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. ROUND-I think it was important to note that the two lots that we're
creating the lot that its going to impact is going to be retained by the proposed developer she is going to be
impacted by it so that's where the weight lies.
ATTORNEY CARR-Just to add to that for future considerations one of the contractual obligations of the
purchaser is to put a stockade fence down the line to separate the mobile home park from the single family
residences.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Anyone from the public care to speak?
NO PUBLIC COMMENT
SEQRA APPLICATION
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. ROUND-Will the proposed action result in any physical change to the
project site?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. ROUND-Will there be an effect to any unique or unusual land forms
found on the site?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. ROUND-Will the proposed action affect any water body designated as
protected?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. ROUND-Will proposed action affect any non-protected existing or new
body of water?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. ROUND-Will the proposed action affect surface or groundwater quality
or quantity?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. ROUND-Will proposed action alter drainage flow or patterns, or surface
water runoff?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. ROUND-Will proposed action affect air quality?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. ROUND-Eight. Will the proposed action affect any threatened or
endangered species?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. ROUND-Nine. Will proposed action substantially affect non-threatened
or non-endangered species?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. ROUND-Ten. Will the proposed action affect agricultural land
resources?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. ROUND-Eleven. Will proposed action affect aesthetic resources?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. ROUND-Twelve. Will proposed action impact any site or structure of
historic, prehistoric, or palentological importance?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. ROUND-Thirteen. Will proposed action affect the quantity or quality of
existing or future open spaces or recreational opportunities?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. ROUND-Fourteen. Will propose action impact the exceptional or unique
characteristics of a critical environmental area (CEA) established pursuant to subdivision 6 NYCRR 617.14
(g)?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. ROUND-Fifteen. Will there be an effect to existing transportation
systems?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. ROUND-Will proposed action affect the community's sources of fuel or
energy supply?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. ROUND-Seventeen. Will there be objectionable odors, noise, or
vibration as a result of the proposed action?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. ROUND-Eighteen. Will proposed action affect public health and safety?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. ROUND-Nineteen. Will proposed action affect the character of the
existing community?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. ROUND-Twenty. Is there, or is there likely to be, public controversy
related to potential adverse environmental impacts?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. ROUND-You have a negative declaration as part of this resolution?
TOWN COUNSEL, MR. SCHACHNER-Can I just add one thing. That is page one of the full
environmental assessment form seems to have been erroneously completed to indicate that the Planning
Board is the lead agency as opposed to the Town Board. Whoever competed the environmental assessment
form should change that to Town of Queensbury Town Board and where it says print or type name of
responsible officer and lead agency that should be Fred's name and the title should be Supervisor not
Chairman.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Okay neg dec motion to accept it.
TOWN COUNSEL, MR. SCHACHNER-Actually that is part of your prepared resolution the neg dec is
contained right in it.
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING VARIANCE FROM CHAPTER 113 OF TOWN CODE REGARDING
MOBILE HOME PARK
OWNED BY ROBERTA CONVERSE
RESOLUTION NO. 148. 99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Richard Merrill
WHEREAS, Roberta Converse is seeking subdivision approval from the Town of Queensbury
Planning Board to allow separation of her mobile home park located on Warren Lane, Queensbury, New
York (Tax Map No.: 121-6-59) from the portion of her property which contains single family homes, and
WHEREAS, in accordance with (113-24 of the Queensbury Town Code, Ms. Converse requires a
variance from the Town Board before she may obtain subdivision approval as Ms. Converse lacks the
twenty-five feet (25') buffer between her mobile home park and her adjacent property as required by (113-
6(A) of the Queensbury Town Code, and
WHEREAS, before the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury may grant the requested
variance, it must first conduct a public hearing, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board duly conducted a public hearing concerning the variance request on
May 3rd, 1999, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, as SEQRA Lead Agency, has reviewed
an Environmental Assessment Form to analyze potential environmental impacts of the proposed variance,
and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury has considered the conditions and
circumstances of the area affected by the proposed variance,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby determines that the
proposed variance will not have any significant environmental impact and a SEQRA Negative Declaration
is made, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby grants a variance to
Roberta Converse to allow separation of her mobile home park located on Warren Lane, Queensbury (Tax
Map No.: 121-6-59) from the portion of her property which contains single family homes even though she
lacks the required twenty-five feet (25') buffer as required by (1l3-6(A) of the Queensbury Town Code,
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes and directs the
Town Clerk to send a certified copy of this Resolution to the Warren County Planning Board, Town of
Queensbury Planning Board and any agency involved for SEQRA purposes.
Duly adopted this 3rd day of May, 1999, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Tucker, Mr. Merrill, Mr. Turner, Mr. Irish, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
PRESENT A TION C.T. MALE EXTENSION OF WATER DISTRICT JENKINSVILLE, SUNNYSIDE
ROAD AREA
PRESENT - GARY MALE, MANAGING ENGINEER WITH C.T. MALE ASSOCIATES
Presentation made regarding a feasibility study to look at the feasibility of providing water service to the
Glen Lake, Sunnyside Lake and Jenkinsville Road areas of the Town. Noted as they ran the cost and
determined what the average residents would pay based on typical borrow rates at this time for a twenty
year bonding found that in the Glen Lake area the total project would be in excess of five million dollars
with an annual cost to the homeowner of one thousand one hundred and fifty two dollars and in Sunnyside
Lake area one point nine million dollar project would result in a cost to the homeowner of a thousand
dollars a year for the twenty year period. Had their grants person take a look at the State Revolving Loan
Fund and Rural Development, which is the former Farmers Home. Recommended that the Town Board
take a look at filing a pre-application to Rural Development for the Sunnyside and the Jenkinsville area to
get an idea of what type of assistant might be available, noting that at some point in time an Income Survey
would be required. Supervisor Champagne noted that they went at this with the understanding that they
may have some difficulties with it, but another update never does any harm. Will continue to look at it
will seek for some grants if this is possible. Report on file in Town Clerk's Office.
CORRESPONDENCE
NONE
TOWN COUNCILMEN'S COMMITTEE REPORTS
COUNCILMAN TURNER-Planning Committee met on April 22, went over list of key issues.
Comprehensive plan, open space, land trust, resource management, critical environmental areas, historical
open space, transportation, economic development, intermunicipal cooperation, signal coordination,
transient merchant law noting topics were discussed in generalities.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Noted he still gets calls regarding the signal coordination.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-There will be a training school on May 14th.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Questioned what will happen after that?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. ROUND-That same week hope to get out and have the County work with
DOT to change the timings.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-Recommended when the Planning Committee meets they advise the Zoning Board
Chairman and Planning Board Chairman to get together so that everyone is up to date when you start
talking about new regulations or changing something.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-Noted he has no problem with it.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-Noted he has no problem with it.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Asked Executive Director, Mr. Round to explain the upgrade of the
Ordinance.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. ROUND-Have received one unsolicited RFP for that project. Finalized
recommendations that have come out of the Comprehensive Plan hope to go to an RFP for that purpose to
solicit several other prices for that project. Would hope to do this toward the end of the summer. Spoke to
the board regarding memo drafted from the Environmental Committee. Meeting was held April 8th noting
one is scheduled for May II tho The committee wanted to invite any Town Board member to attend. There
are some recommendations that have been forwarded to the committee that came out of the Comprehensive
Plan. As a part of housekeeping they are short of membership right now and they wanted to supply you
with a list then have you consider that list as well as any other suggestions for membership that you might
have. One of the major things that did come out given the change in the City of Glens Falls water supply
problems they would recommend a special committee be formed to address the future of the Glens Falls
Watershed properties. Will have them forward the list on membership, will have them wait on the action
on the watershed properties.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Until we meet with Glens Falls to determine what direction they see this
going not an awful lot we can do with the watershed property, thinks the lead will have to be taken by the
City.
OPEN FORUM RESOLUTIONS
MR. JOHN STROUGH, QUEENSBURY-Spoke to the board regarding the resolution adopting the FEIS
on the Cracker Barrel Old Country Store, noted in the first paragraph it should read 9,462 square feet.
Questioned when this was put on the agenda?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-It was put on the agenda for tonight's meeting on Friday that's standard.
MR. STROUGH-Questioned if they are going to set a date for the rezoning tonight?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-No.
MR. STROUGH-Will they have a little bit more notice then setting on Friday?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Would expect so.
MR. STROUGH-Questioned in resolution 6.7 Resolution authorizing Sale of a Parcel owned by the Town
of Queensbury to the owners of Queensbury Plaza is this a result of a bid?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Noted the way it works if the Town decides to sell or gift or whatever or if
there is an interested party in a piece property that the Town Board agrees is surplus property the procedure
would be to get a appraisal from a licensed appraiser or certified appraiser we would use that appraisal as
our price for that particular piece of property.
MR. STROUGH-Questioned if it was put out to bid?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-No.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-Noted they approached the Town to buy it.
MR. STROUGH-Noted would think if it is public property, even do that with a four hundred dollar
automobile, thought this should be the same with other public property.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-By law it is permissible to do the appraisal and sell the property
accordingly.
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-Noted it has to go to permissive referendum.
RESOLUTIONS
RESOLUTION ACCEPTING CRACKER BARREL OLD COUNTRY STORES, INC. 'S FINAL
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT (FEIS) AND AUTHORIZING NOTICE OF
COMPLETION OF FEIS
RESOLUTION NO.: 149.99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Pliney Tucker
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY : Mr. Richard Merrill
WHEREAS, Cracker Barrel Old Country Stores, Inc. (Cracker Barrel) is seeking approval for a
change of zone from the Town of Queensbury Town Board, site plan approval from the Town of
Queensbury Planning Board and other approvals from state and local agencies to enable it to construct a
new 9,462 square foot restaurant facility on approximately 2.5 acres of a 4.44 acre site located at the corner
of Aviation Road and Greenway North, across from the Aviation Mall in Queensbury (the Project), and
WHEREAS, on or about October 20th, 1997, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury
adopted a Resolution authorizing the submission of the rezoning request to the Town Planning Board for a
report and recommendation, indicating its desire to be designated as SEQRA Lead Agency for
environmental review of the proposed project, and authorizing and directing the Executive Director to
notify all SEQRA Involved Agencies of the Town Board's desire to be Lead Agency, and
WHEREAS, none of the SEQRA Involved Agencies objected to designation of the Town Board as
SEQRA Lead Agency and the Town Board issued a SEQRA Positive Declaration requiring Cracker Barrel
to prepare an Environmental Impact Statement for the Project, and
WHEREAS, Cracker Barrel presented the Town with a Draft Environmental Impact Statement
and the DEIS was reviewed by the Town Planning Staff and Town Board, and
WHEREAS, in accordance with the rules and regulations adopted by the New York State
Department of Environmental Conservation pursuant to SEQRA, the Town Board, by Resolution No.:
410.98, accepted the DEIS as satisfactory with respect to its scope, content and adequacy for the purpose of
commencing public review, and
WHEREAS, Resolution No. 410.98 also established a public comment period and public hearing
date concerning the DEIS to satisfy SEQRA requirements, and a public hearing was held on November
23rd, 1998 and all interested persons were heard, and
WHEREAS, Cracker Barrel then presented the Town with a Final Environmental Impact
Statement and the FEIS was reviewed by the Town Planning Staff and Town Board, and
WHEREAS, the Town Planning Staff and Town Board identified additional information that was
needed in order for the FEIS to adequately address issues raised at the public hearing and remaining issues
of concern, and
WHEREAS, additional correspondence was generated and submitted by Cracker Barrel to be part
of the FEIS, such correspondence set forth in the April 27, 1999 letter from Lemery MacKrell, LLC to
Christopher Round, and
WHEREAS, the FEIS includes discussion of the substantive comments received on the DEIS and
responses to those comments,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby accepts the Final
Environmental Impact Statement (FEIS) submitted by Cracker Barrel Old Country Stores, Inc. presented at
this meeting, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby approves and adopts the
Notice of Completion of Final EIS presented at this meeting, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the Executive Director of
Community Development to file the Notice of Completion of Final EIS as required by the SEQRA
Regulations, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that Town Counsel is hereby authorized to approve as to form the required notices
and make any necessary additions or modifications to comply with the SEQRA Regulations.
Duly adopted this 3rd day of May, 1999, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Turner, Mr. Irish, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Merrill, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
DISCUSSION HELD BEFORE VOTE:
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-Asked Executive Director, Mr. Round to explain what action they are taking
tonight.
ATTORNEY BEN PRATT-The action that the board is taking is not an action either approving or denying
the zoning change request. Tonight what the board is doing or considering is whether or not to accept the
Final Environmental Impact Statement which will provide the basis by identifying all of the issues,
controversies, and concerns, the basis for the board making its eventual decision as to whether or not to
approve or deny the rezoning. It is a procedural decision primarily tonight rather than a substance decision
with respect to the actual action that the board mayor may not take at sometime in the future. No action
can be taken within a period of at least ten days if the EIS is accepted tonight as final.
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TRANSFER FROM RECREATION ASSESSMENT RESERVE FUND
#61 TO HUDSON RIVER PARK PROJECT ACCOUNT FOR IMPROVEMENTS AND EQUIPMENT
AT
HUDSON RIVER PARK
RESOLUTION NO.: 150.99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Pliney Tucker
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Richard Merrill
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury previously established a capital reserve
fund for future recreational developments known as the Recreation Assessment Reserve Fund #61 (Fund
#61), and
WHEREAS, the Town Board wishes to withdraw and expend funds from Fund #61 for specific
capital improvements and items of equipment for Hudson River Park, as follows:
1. perimeter and interior roadway fencing;
1. a sand volleyball court;
1. nature/ski trails;
4. fishing access sites; and
5. design and construction services for items I through 4;
for a total cost not to exceed $21,000, and
WHEREAS, in accordance with ~6(c) of the New York State General Municipal Law, the Town
Board is authorized to withdraw and expend funds from Fund #61 subject to permissive referendum,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby determines that the specific
capital improvements and items of equipment listed above meet the requirements for which the Recreation
Assessment Reserve Fund #61 (Fund #61) was established, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the transfer of $21,000 from
Fund #61 after expiration of the permissive referendum period, such funds to be placed into the Hudson
River Park Miscellaneous Account # 107 -7110-4400, and further directs that if any funds are left over after
the project is completed or the project is not undertaken, the funds shall be returned to Fund #61, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that this Resolution is subject to permissive referendum in accordance with the
provisions of Article 7 of the Town Law and the Town Board authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to
publish and post such notices and take such other actions required by law.
Duly adopted this 3rd day of May, 1999 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Merrill, Mr. Turner, Mr. Irish, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
DISCUSSION HELD BEFORE VOTE:
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-Questioned if this has been recommended by the Recreation Commission?
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-Yes.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-Who recommended it?
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-Harry drew this up.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-Questioned if Sharon Simmonds recommended this as Chairman of the
Commission?
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-Yes.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-Questioned if they has quotes or breakdowns by cost?
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-No.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-Noted he fully supports what is being done noting they have had a lot of
trouble with contractors just want to make sure it's done right.
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-No bid has been let out. The $21,000 is coming out of the Recreation Fund
there is a thirty days lapse permissive referendum.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-Noted asked the committee to put it into one project and do all the planning at
the same time.
COUNCILMAN HESS-Questioned if this will be subject to the Town purchasing procedures?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Correct.
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ENGAGEMENT OF C.T. MALE ASSOCIATES, P.c. FOR
EVALUATION OF WATER TANK MAINTENANCE NEEDS, BID PREPARATION AND WORK
INSPECTION
RESOLUTION NO.: 151. 99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Douglas Irish
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Pliney Tucker
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury Water Superintendent has obtained engineering services
proposals to evaluate the Town's water tank maintenance needs, prepare the necessary bid documents and
inspect the maintenance work, and
WHEREAS, the Water Superintendent received and reviewed proposals and has recommended
that the Town Board engage the engineering services of C.T. Male Associates, P.c., for the lowest
submitted proposal bid of $34)00, as delineated in c.T. Male's Proposal dated April 23, 1999 and
presented at this meeting,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes and directs the
engagement of the services of C. T. Male Associates, P. C. to evaluate the Town of Queensbury's water tank
maintenance needs, prepare the necessary bid documents and inspect the maintenance work, such
engineering services not to exceed the total amount of $34)00, to be paid for from the appropriate account,
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury authorizes and directs the Town
Water Superintendent and/or Town Supervisor to execute any documentation and take such other and
further action as may be necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
Duly adopted this 3rd day of May, 1999, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Irish, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Merrill, Mr. Turner, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING PAYMENT TO WARREN COUNTY FOR ENCASEMENT OF TOWN
SEWER MAIN LOCATED IN VICINITY OF BIKEWAY BRIDGE TO BE CONSTRUCTED OVER
ROUTE 254
RESOLUTION NO. 152. 99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Richard Merrill
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, Warren County is in the process of constructing a bikeway bridge over Route 254
(Quaker Road) in the Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, a sewer main owned by the Town of Queensbury is located underneath Warren
County property in the vicinity of the bridge construction and therefore Warren County has advised the
Town that the Town will have to move or protect this sewer main, and
WHEREAS, Town and County representatives have met to discuss options concerning the
relocation and/or protection of the Town's sewer main, and
WHEREAS, the Town's Wastewater Director has recommended that the Town Board choose the
option of encasing the Town's existing sewer main with a sleeve to protect it from the additional load of the
bridge construction and to allow future repairs, and
WHEREAS, Warren County has estimated that the cost to install the sleeve will be approximately
$28,000, and
WHEREAS, Warren County has requested that the Town authorize this work and then Warren
County will pay the contractor and bill the Town of Queensbury for the work, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board concurs with the Wastewater Director's recommendation to
authorize this work as this solution will allow the Town to protect its sewer main, maintain service to all
customers during the entire project and make any necessary repairs without affecting the new bridge,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes and directs
Warren County to authorize its contractor to encase the Town's sewer main with a sleeve to protect it from
the additional load of the new bikeway bridge to be constructed over Route 254 (Quaker Road) in the Town
of Queensbury for an amount not to exceed $28,000, to be paid by Warren County and then reimbursed by
the Town, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that payment for this work shall be made from the Town's Sewer Department
Budget, although the Board acknowledges that it may be necessary to transfer money later in the year from
the Town's Sewer Fund Balance to the Sewer Department Budget to cover this expense, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor and/or Director
of Wastewater to prepare and execute any documentation and take any action necessary to effectuate the
terms of this Resolution.
Duly adopted this 3rd day of May, 1999, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Tucker, Mr. Merrill, Mr. Turner, Mr. Irish, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
DISCUSSION HELD BEFORE VOTE:
COUNCILMAN TURNER-Noted Warren County has estimated the cost to install the sleeve will be
approximately $28,000 has a problem with this.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-Questioned if they can say, not to exceed?
WATER SUPERINTENDENT, RAPLH VANDUSEN-Not to exceed.
RESOLUTION AND FINAL ORDER APPROVING ESTABLISHMENT OF HILAND PARK SEWER
DISTRICT EXTENSION NO. I
RESOLUTION NO. 153. 99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Richard Merrill
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury wishes to establish an extension to the
Hiland Park Sewer District to be known as the Hiland Park Sewer District Extension No. I, and
WHEREAS, Adirondack Community College (the Developer) has agreed to make all necessary
improvements and pay all the costs of such extension, and
WHEREAS, a Map, Plan and Report has been prepared by William 1. Levandowski, P.E., ofRist-
Frost Associates, P.C., an engineering firm licensed by the State of New York, 333 Glen Street, P.O. Box
838, Glens Falls, New York 12801, regarding the proposed extension to the existing Hiland Park Sewer
District to serve Adirondack Community College at its 640 Bay Road location in the Town of Queensbury
such area consisting of the parcel or lot identified as Tax Map No.: 60-2-16.1 as more specifically set forth
and described in the Map, Plan and Report, and
WHEREAS, in addition the extension will include a 30' wide sewer easement over the adjacent
parcel owned by Family Golf Centers, Inc., such area consisting of the parcel or lot identified as Tax Map
No.: 60-2-1, as more specifically set forth and described in the Map, Plan and Report, and
WHEREAS, the Map, Plan and Report has been filed in the Town Clerk's Office in the Town of
Queensbury and is available for public inspection, and
WHEREAS, the Map, Plan and Report delineates the boundaries of the proposed sewer district
extension, a general plan of the proposed sewer system, a report of the proposed sewer system and method
of operation, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury wishes to establish the proposed sewer
extension in accordance with Town Law Article 12A and consolidate the same with the Hiland Park Sewer
District in accordance with Town Law, ~206-a, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board considered the establishment of the extension in accordance with the
provisions of the State Environmental Quality Review Act and adopted a negative declaration concerning
environmental impacts, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board also adopted a Resolution approving the extension of the District
subject to a permissive referendum, and
WHEREAS, the Certificate of the Town Clerk required to be filed in accordance with Subdivision
4, Town ~209-e establishes that no petition was filed requesting a referendum, and
WHEREAS, State Comptroller approval is not necessary, and
WHEREAS, the Town wishes to adopt a Final Order extending the Hiland Park Sewer District,
NOW, THEREFORE, IT IS
ORDERED, that it is the determination of the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, that:
I.The Notice of Public Hearing was published and posted as required by law and is otherwise sufficient.
LAn Agreement between the parties has been executed and filed in the Queensbury Town Clerk's Office;
Ut is in the public interest to establish, authorize, and approve the Hiland Park Sewer District Extension
No. I to the Hiland Park Sewer District as it has been described in the Map, Plan and Report on file with
the Town Clerk of the Town of Queensbury and as more specifically described herein;
I.All property and property owners within said extension are benefited thereby;
I.All property and property owners benefited are included within the limits of the extension;
Un accordance with ~206-a of the Town Law of the State of New York, it is in the public interest to assess
all expenses of the district, including all extensions heretofore or hereafter established as a charge against
the entire area of the district as extended and it is in the public interest to extend the district only if all
expenses of the district shall be assessed against the entire district as extended, and
IT IS FURTHER,
ORDERED, that:
I.The Hiland Park Sewer District Extension No. I to the Hiland Park Sewer District be and the same is
hereby authorized, approved and established in accordance with the boundaries and descriptions set forth
herein and in the Map, Plan and Report and construction of the improvement may proceed and service
provided and subject to the following:
A.
of Health;
the obtaining of any necessary permits or approvals from the New York State Department
B. the obtaining of any necessary permits or approvals from the New York State Department
of Environmental Conservation;
2. The boundaries of the Hiland Park Sewer District Extension No. I to the Hiland Park Sewer
District are as follows:
Beginning at a point at the intersection of the easterly boundary of Bay Road with the northerly
boundary oflands now or formerly of John M. and Wilma P. Hughes, said boundary also being the
northerly boundary of Brookview Acres Subdivision, and running thence from said point of beginning
northerly along the said easterly boundary of Bay Road 2,786 +/ - feet to a point in the southerly boundary
of lands now or formerly of Harry M. and Mildred W. Covell; thence along the boundary of said lands now
or formerly of Harry M. and Mildred W. Covell the following three (3) courses and distances: I) South 83(
52' East 33.5 +/- feet to a point; 2) North 6( 08' East 99.0 feet to a point; and 3) North 83( 52' West 35.5 +/-
feet to a point in the aforementioned easterly boundary of Bay Road; thence northerly along the said
easterly boundary of Bay Road 90 I +/ - feet to a point in the southerly boundary of lands now or formerly
of Marilyn L. Mathias; thence South 83( 49' East 201.37 feet to a point in the westerly boundary oflands
now or formerly of David G. and Delores K. Stanton; thence along the boundary of said lands now or
formerly of David G. and Delores K. Stanton the following three (3) courses and distances: I) South 6( 08'
West 80.65 feet to a point; 2) South 61( 25' East 100.0 feet to a point; and 3) North 6( 08' East 222.18 feet
to a point in the southerly boundary of Haviland Road; thence southeasterly along the said southerly
boundary of Haviland Road 1,500 +/- feet to a point in the westerly boundary of lands now or formerly of
Family Golf Centers, Inc.; thence southerly along the said westerly boundary of lands now or formerly of
Family Golf Centers, Inc. the following three (3) courses and distances: I) South 6( 24' West 2,400 +/- feet
to point; 2) North 81( 14' West 64.7 feet to a point; and 3) South 5( 36'; West 820.9 feet to a point in the
aforementioned northerly boundary of Brookview Acres Subdivision; thence North 81( 40' West along the
said northerly boundary of Brookview Acres Subdivision 1,535 +/- feet to the point of beginning.
3. The improvements to be included and made a part of the extension shall be as more specifically set forth
in the Map, Plan and Report prepared by William 1. Levandowski, P.E., of Rist-Frost Associates, P.C., and
the cost shall also include a payment of the appropriate charge due the City of Glens Falls at the time of the
initial hook-up;
1. All proposed construction shall be installed and paid for by the Developer (including the cost payable to
the City at the time of initial hook-up) and shall be constructed and installed in full accordance with the
Town of Queensbury's specifications, ordinances or local laws, and any State laws or regulations, and in
accordance with approved plans and specifications, and under competent engineering supervision;
I. The estimated maximum amount proposed to be expended for said improvement will not be greater than
$301,500, plus a one time buy-in fee of $1.612 per gallon of average daily flow, which in this case would
be $40)00, or a total of $341,800, said amount includes all costs to be paid for the City of Glens Falls
Capital Charges and the Municipality's one-time capital connection fee. Such improvement costs shall be
paid by the Developer and there shall be no cost to the Town of Queensbury or the Hiland Park Sewer
District, for the proposed extension. The areas or properties that comprise the extension however, will be
subject to the same cost for operation, maintenance and capital improvements as in the Hiland Park Sewer
District.
I. The method of apportioning costs is such that the Developer and/or Owner of the property which the
extension will service, will pay the cost for engineering, installation of the sewer pipe, and necessary
appurtenances and the initial capital charge payable to the City of Glens Falls for use of its sewage
treatment plant. The extension will thereafter be consolidated with the Hiland Park Sewer District and
properties therein will be assessed taxes and/or pay user fees in the same manner and in the same amounts
as similar properties are assessed or billed in the Hiland Park Sewer District;
I. There will be no financing of the construction or installation cost for the proposed sewer extension and
no amount shall be paid therefor by the extension, the Town of Queensbury or the Hiland Park Sewer
District, the Developer being completely responsible for the same, as well as the charge payable to the City
at the time of the initial connection of the extension;
1. In accordance with Town Law (206-a, all expenses of the Hiland Park Sewer District, including all
extensions included heretofore or hereafter established, shall be a charge against the entire area of the
district as extended;
1. Expenses occasioned after the creation of the extension shall be assessed, levied, and/or collected from
the several lots and parcels of land within the extension on the same basis as the assessments, levies, and/or
collections are made in the Hiland Park Sewer District and such assessments shall be made on a benefit
basis and/or user charge basis;
1. The Map, Plan and Report describing the improvements and area involved is on file with the Town Clerk
of the Town of Queensbury and is available for public inspection;
and
BE IT FURTHER,
ORDERED, that the Town Clerk shall cause a certified copy of this Resolution and Order
extending the Hiland Park Sewer District and consolidating the extension with the district, to be duly
recorded in the Office of the Clerk of the County of Warren, and cause a certified copy of this Resolution to
be sent to the State Department of Audit & Control at Albany, New York, the Town of Queensbury
Assessor's Office, Community Development Department and Wastewater Department, within 10 days of
the date of adoption of this Order.
Duly adopted this 3rd day of May, 1999, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Merrill, Mr. Turner, Mr. Irish, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
DISCUSSSION HELD BEFORE VOTE:
SUPERVISOR CHAMP AGNE- This hooks ACC to the Hiland Park Sewer District noting it will be an
improvement to the district. It is only handling now somewhere in the neighborhood twenty plus thousand
gallons a day.....
DIRECTOR OF WASTEWATER, MR. SHAW -About ten.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-By hooking in ACC it will increase that by?
DIRECTOR OF WASTEWATER, MR. SHAW -Double it.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-We're able to cut the fees of the O&M to Hiland Park user by?
DIRECTOR OF WASTEWATER, MR. SHAW-Forty percent.
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SEWER EXTENSION AGREEMENT BETWEEN ADIRONDACK
COMMUNITY COLLEGE
AND TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
RESOLUTION NO. 154. 99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Richard Merrill
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, by Resolution No.: 385.98 the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury established,
authorized and approved an extension to the Hiland Park Sewer District known as the Hiland Park Sewer
District Extension No. I, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board authorized this District Extension subject to an executed Agreement
between Adirondack Community College and the Town of Queensbury on behalf of the Hiland Park Sewer
District, and
WHEREAS, a proposed Agreement between Adirondack Community College and the Town has
been prepared and presented at this meeting and is in form approved by Town Counsel,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby approves and authorizes
the Agreement between Adirondack Community College and Town of Queensbury on behalf of the Hiland
Park Sewer District and authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor to execute the Agreement and take
such other and further action necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
Duly adopted this 3rd day of May, 1999, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Turner, Mr. Irish, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Merrill, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SALE OF PARCEL OWNED BY TOWN OF QUEENSBURY TO
OWNERSOFQUEENSBURYPLAZA
RESOLUTION NO.: 155.99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Pliney Tucker
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, by Resolution No. 200.98, authorized
an appraisal of a .05 acre (2,178 square feet) parcel of land located adjacent to the Queensbury Plaza at the
end of Bank Street, as the parcel is proposed for abandonment as part of a land development proposal
previously approved by the Queensbury Planning Board, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board has received the appraisal from the Bauer Appraisal Group, Inc., and
WHEREAS, the Town Board has analyzed whether the parcel is needed for any Town purpose,
and
WHEREAS, the Town Board now wishes to authorize the sale of the parcel to the owners of the
Queensbury Plaza,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby determines that the parcel is not needed for any Town
purpose, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby determines that the amount
of $4,000 is a fair and adequate price for the parcel, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby accepts and approves the
sale of the .05 acre (2,178 square feet) parcel ofland located at the end of Bank Street adjacent to the
Queensbury Plaza for the amount of $4,000 in accordance with the terms of an agreement in form
acceptable to Town Counsel, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorizes the sale of the parcel to the owners of the
Queensbury Plaza and further authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor to execute any and all documents
necessary to complete this transaction, including, without limitation, the agreement of sale in form
acceptable to Town Counsel, the Deed, the Real Property Transfer Report and the Capital Gains Affidavit,
and take such other and further action as may be necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that this Resolution shall be subject to a permissive referendum in accordance with
(64(2) of the Town Law and shall not take effect until such time as provided for Resolutions subject to
permissive referendum in Article 7 of the Town Law and the Town Board further authorizes and directs the
Town Clerk to post and publish the required notice for Resolutions subject to permissive referendum.
Duly adopted this 3rd day of May, 1999, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Irish, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Merrill, Mr. Turner, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION REFERRING APPLICATION FOR TRANSIENT MERCHANT/TRANSIENT
MERCHANT MARKET FOR AMERICAN LEGEND MOTORCYCLE TRAILERS, INC. TO
PLANNING BOARD AND SETTING PUBLIC HEARING
RESOLUTION NO.: 156.99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Douglas Irish
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, American Legend Motorcycle Trailers, Inc., has applied to the Queensbury Town
Board for a Transient Merchant/Transient Merchant Market License to conduct a transient merchant market
from June 6th through June 13th, 1999 to display and market motorcycle cargo trailers in the parking lot
located at the Adirondack Factory Outlet Center 1444 State Route 9, Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, in accordance with Queensbury Town Code Chapter 160, the Town Board must refer
the application to the Town's Planning Board for site plan review as well as conduct its own public hearing
concerning the application,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes and directs the
Queensbury Town Clerk to forward American Legend Motorcycle Trailers, Inc. 's application for a
Transient Merchant/Transient Merchant Market License to the Queensbury Planning Board for site plan
review and recommendation, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby indicates its wish to be lead
agency for SEQRA review of this project and directs that the Department of Community Development
notify any other involved agencies of this designation, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby sets a public hearing
concerning the application of American Legend Motorcycle Trailers, Inc., for May 17th, 1999 at 7:00 p.rn.
in the Queensbury Activities Center, 742 Bay Road and at such public hearing all interested persons shall
be heard, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorizes and directs the Queensbury Town Clerk to provide
notice of the public hearing to the applicant and owners of property within 500 feet of the applicant's
property and publish a notice of public hearing in the official newspaper of the Town a minimum of ten
(10) days prior to the hearing.
Duly adopted this 3rd day of May, 1999, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Tucker, Mr. Merrill, Mr. Turner, Mr. Irish, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
DISCUSSION HELD BEFORE VOTE:
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. ROUND-Noted this is scheduled for a public hearing on the resolution for
May 17th. The Planning Board meets on May 18th noting typically they get a Planning Board
recommendation and refers it back to you. Questioned if the board wanted to do this on a contingency
basis or wait until the June 7th, Town Board meeting?
TOWN BOARD-Contingency.
TOWN COUNSEL, SCHACHNER-Noted the existing resolution for setting the public hearing is fine.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-Questioned if the transient merchants do they have to pay sales tax?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-They have to pay sales tax.
RESOLUTION SETTING PUBLIC HEARING ON APPLICATION FOR TRANSIENT
MERCHANT/TRANSIENT MERCHANT MARKET FOR TERRY ROBBINS ON BEHALF OF
DEXTER SHOES
RESOLUTION NO.: 157.99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Richard Merrill
WHEREAS, Terry Robbins, on behalf of Dexter Shoes, has applied to the Queensbury Town
Board for a Transient Merchant/Transient Merchant Market License to conduct a transient merchant market
from June 9th through June 12th, 1999 from 9:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.rn., to display 3-wheel conversions for
motorcycles in the parking lot located at 1499 State Route 9, Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board previously forwarded the application to the Town of Queensbury
Planning Board for recommendation and site plan review, and
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Planning Board approved this application for a Transient
Merchant/Transient Merchant Market License at its April 20th, 1999 meeting, and
WHEREAS, the Warren County Planning Board also approved the application, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury wishes to schedule a public hearing on
the application as required by Queensbury Town Code Chapter 160,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby sets a public hearing
concerning the request for a Transient Merchant/Transient Merchant Market License for Terry Robbins, on
behalf of Dexter Shoes on May 17th, 1999 at 7 :00 p.m. in the Queensbury Activities Center, 742 Bay Road
and at such public hearing all interested persons shall be heard, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorizes and directs the Queensbury Town Clerk to provide
notice of the public hearing to the applicant and owners of property within 500 feet of the applicant's
property and publish a notice of public hearing in the official newspaper of the Town a minimum of ten
(10) days prior to the hearing.
Duly adopted this 3rd day of May, 1999, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Merrill, Mr. Turner, Mr. Irish, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION TO AMEND 1999 BUDGET
RESOLUTION NO.: 158.99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Richard Merrill
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, certain Town Departments have requested fund transfers for the 1999 Budget and the
Chief Fiscal Officer has approved the requests,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes and directs the
transfer(s) of funds and the amendment(s) of the 1999 Town Budget as follows:
CEMETERY:
FROM:
TO:
$ AMOUNT:
02-8810-200 I
(Misc. Equipment)
02-1990-1002
(Contingency)
4,000.
02-8810-2899
(Misc. Cap. Const.)
02-1990-1002
(Contingency)
1,000.
Duly adopted this 3rd day of May, 1999, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Turner, Mr. Irish, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Merrill, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION ELIMINATING $3,000 STIPEND TO TOWN CLERK FOR ACTING AS TOWN
PURCHASING AGENT
RESOLUTION NO.: 159.99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Douglas Irish
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Pliney Tucker
WHEREAS, by Resolution No.: 13, 1999, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury re-
appointed the Town Clerk as Purchasing Agent for the year 1999 until such time as the Town Board hired a
full-time Purchasing Agent, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board authorized an annual stipend of $3,000 for the Town Clerk to act as
the Town's Purchasing Agent, and
WHEREAS, by Resolution No.: 97.99, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury appointed a
new, full-time Purchasing Manager, and therefore it is no longer necessary to pay the $3,000 annual stipend
to the Town Clerk to act as Purchasing Agent,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes and directs the
Town Controller's Office to eliminate the balance of the annual $3,000 stipend paid to the Town Clerk to
act as Purchasing Agent, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Controller's Office to
complete any documentation and take such other and further action necessary to effectuate the terms of this
Resolution.
Duly adopted this 3rd day of May, 1999, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Irish, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Merrill, Mr. Turner, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ADDITIONAL PAYMENT TO COMPRO FOR PREPARATION OF
QUARTERLY TOWN NEWSLETTER
RESOLUTION NO. 160.99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Pliney Tucker
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
MOTION WITHDRAWN
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
DISCUSSION HELD
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Explained why the $792.10 was added on to the original cost. In
conversation with them after the contract was signed we agreed to upgrade the paper from newsprint to a
white copy it is those costs associated with the increase in newsprint to white paper.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-Thought they could do that for the bid that they had.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Noted that's not what they were asking for in this one.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-Questioned if they has any documentation or just verbal?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Verbal. Will be glad to have them come in and discuss it, board in
agreement. Motion withdrawn.
RESOLUTION DESIGNATING POLLING PLACES
RESOLUTION NO. 160. 99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Pliney Tucker
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, in accordance with New York State Election Law (4-104, the Queensbury Town
Board must submit a listing of the Town's polling places for each Election District to the Warren County
Board of Elections, and
WHEREAS, unless otherwise noted, each location is accessible to the physically handicapped in
accordance with Election Law (4-1 04-I-a,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby designates the following
locations as the Town's polling places for each Election District:
W ARD/ELECTION DISTRICT
LOCATION
1/1
1/2
1/3
1/4
North Queensbury Firehouse
Bay Ridge Firehouse
Bay Ridge Firehouse
Warren County Municipal Center
2/1
2/2
2/3
2/4
2/5
South Queensbury Firehouse
Queensbury Activity Center
Queensbury Central Firehouse
Queensbury Activity Center
Roberts Gardens Recreation Room
(Not Handicapped Accessible)
W ARD/ELECTION DISTRICT
LOCATION
3/1
3/2
3/3
3/4
Queensbury Senior High
Queensbury Senior High
Queensbury 4-5 School Lobby Area
Kensington Road School
4/1
4/2
4/3
4/4
4/5
4/6
West Glens Falls Firehouse (VanDusenlLuzerne)
West Glens Falls Firehouse (VanDusenlLuzerne)
West Glens Falls Firehouse (Luzerne Road)
West Glens Falls Firehouse (Luzerne Road)
West Glens Falls Firehouse (Luzerne Road)
West Glens Falls Firehouse (VanDusenlLuzerne)
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to forward a
copy of this Resolution to the Warren County Board of Elections.
Duly adopted this 3rd day of May, 1999, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Tucker, Mr. Merrill, Mr. Turner, Mr. Irish, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION APPOINTING RICHARD HERMANCE AS SCHOOL TRAFFIC OFFICER (CROSSING
GUARD) ON "AS NEEDED" BASIS
RESOLUTION NO. 161. 99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Richard Merrill
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury wishes to appoint Richard Hermance to
the position of School Traffic Officer (Crossing Guard) on an "as needed" basis,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby appoints Richard
Hermance as School Traffic Officer (Crossing Guard) on an "as needed" basis effective May 3rd, 1999, at
the current rate of pay for the School Traffic Officer (Crossing Guard) position to be paid from the
appropriate payroll account, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor and/or
Town Controller's Office to complete any forms necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
Duly adopted this 17th day of May, 1999, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Merrill, Mr. Turner, Mr. Irish, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING BADGER METER INC.
TO CONTINUE PROVIDING RADIO READ METERS
AND ACCESSORIES TO WATER DEPARTMENT
RESOLUTION NO.: 162.99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Douglas Irish
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, Town Board Resolution No. 69 of 1972 provided for the standardization of purchase
of Badger Meters to be used by the Town of Queensbury Water Department, as delineated in a Memo dated
April 26, 199 from the Town of Queensbury Water Superintendent, and
WHEREAS, the Water Superintendent has recommended that the Town of Queensbury continue
to use the Badger meter system and has therefore requested Town Board authorization to allow Badger
Meter, Inc. to continue providing radio read meters and accessories to the Town Water Department during
1999 for a total sum not to exceed $80,000,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes and directs
Badger Meter, Inc. to continue providing the Town of Queensbury Water Department with radio read
meters and accessories during 1999 for a total sum not to exceed $80,000 to be paid for from Account No.:
40-8340-4320, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury authorizes and directs the Town
Water Superintendent and/or Town Supervisor to execute any documentation and take such other and
further action as may be necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
Duly adopted this 3rd day of May, 1999, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Turner, Mr. Irish, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Merrill, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
DISCUSSION HELD BEFORE VOTE:
CONTROLLER HESS-I know we had some discussion earlier on about a standardization policy that the
Board adopted some years ago, that was resolved without board action there is nothing needed even though
some of the language is in here I am not sure that the Board has the authority to direct a company to sell
meters to the town. I am not sure that this is appropriately worded, really all we were asking for is to
authorizing the purchasing agent to spend eighty thousand dollars at Ralph's direction. I am not sure this
resolution really is not clear from my point of view.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-The resolution should just say, authorize the purchasing of water equipment.
CONTROLLER HESS-If you are going to spend over five thousand dollars it requires a Board resolution
to approve that purchase. I think what I would like the resolution to say is that we, simply you are pre-
approving up to eighty thousand dollars of expenditure so Ralph can issue the orders through the
purchasing department without having to come back every time he wants a delivery.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-They are really eliminating Badger Meter from the resolution.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-That is what you are saying. We are establishing a standardized.
CONTROLLER HESS-You have a standardized.
WATER SUPT. VANDUSEN-That is already done.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-That is done. I guess I do not know what my problem is here.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-You just need a resolution authorizing the expenditure of eighty thousand dollars.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-To me this is belt and suspenders really isn't it, unless there is something
there I am not seeing.
CONTROLLER HESS-If you are happy with it, I mean, I think it is acquired.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-The resolutions says you can spend eighty thousand dollars with Badger Meter,
right?
COUNCIMLAN TURNER-Yes, but it also says that there was previous resolution standardizing.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-But this one says that you are only going to spend that eighty thousand dollars
with Badger Meter.
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-That is what he wants to do.
COUNICLMAN IRISH-No, this is not what we want to do.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Is that what you want to do Ralph?
WATER SUPT. VANDUSEN-Twenty seven years ago the board standardized on Badger Meter a few
months ago we talked about radio read, I investigated it is my feeling that we should stay with Badger
Meter, there is a lot of reasons as to why we should do that. So, that is fine I can just go ahead and just
buy, the previous resolution as long as we stay with Badger we can continue to do that the problem occurs
as Henry says, is that anything over five thousand requires Board approval. Rather than come to the Board
every couple of months and say OK, it is time for another shipment please approve it we felt it was
effective to ask for that approve for up to eighty thousand dollars to purchase meters based on that
standardization policy set twenty seven years ago.
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-I remember that Ralph I was there. I am listed right on the resolution.
Vote taken.
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING INTERMUNICIPAL AGREEMENT
WITH THE VILLAGE OF HUDSON FALLS FOR THE SALE OF WATER
RESOLUTION NO.: 163.99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Richard Merrill
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY:
Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury has a water treatment plant which currently has capacity in
excess of its residents' use, and
WHEREAS, the Village of Hudson Falls wishes to obtain water from the Town's facility, and
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury wishes to supply the Village of Hudson Falls with water
from its facility, and
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury and Village of Hudson Falls have negotiated terms for an
Intermunicipal Agreement for the sale of water, and
WHEREAS, an Intermunicipal Agreement for the sale of water has been presented at this meeting
and the Town Board has determined that such Agreement would be in the best interests of the Town, its
residents, and its Consolidated Water District,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby approves of the
Intermunicipal Agreement with the Village of Hudson Falls for the sale of water from the Town's water
treatment facility, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes and directs the
Town Supervisor to execute the Intermunicipal Agreement in the form presented at this meeting and to take
such other and further action necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
Duly adopted this 3rd day of May, 1999, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Irish, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Merrill, Mr. Turner, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
DISCUSSION HELD BEFORE VOTE:
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-Commended Water Superintendent, Mr. Van Dusen for working out the
details with the principals.
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-The change from quarterly payments to every six months with Hudson Falls,
knows this is different than what was agreed with Moreau.
CONTROLLER, MR. HESS-They way it was explained going to go to six months payments waive the
ninety day interest free period the cost effect would be the same to the Town.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-This is a notification made to accommodate their billing procedures.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-If they are late on the due date they start accruing late charges instead of ninety
days later.
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-The due date is thirty days?
CONTROLLER, MR. HESS-Thirty days.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-The cash flow would be better by going this route than if they wanted to
take the ninety days.
CONTROLLER, MR. HESS-Doesn't think it will improve cash flow. If they took advantage of the ninety
days it would still be coming in on a quarterly basis. This is only going to come in on a six month basis
even if it is only thirty days late so you are going to miss a billing cycle.
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-Suppose South Glens Falls comes back and wants the same thing.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-They already have a contract.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Have a signed agreement.
TOWN COUNSEL, MR. SCHACHNER-I know we signed it I think Moreau signed it too. It should be all
set.
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-We're not going to give it to them right?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Right.
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TOWN CLERK TO SUBMIT PETITION FOR CHANGE OF ZONE
FOR PROPERTY OWNED BY FOREST ENTERPRISES, INC. TO QUEENSBURY PLANNING
BOARD
RESOLUTION NO. 164. 99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Pliney Tucker
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Douglas Irish
WHEREAS, Forest Enterprises, Inc., has submitted an application to the Queensbury Town
Clerk's Office for extension of the Mobile Home Overlay District and the application has been reviewed by
the Town Planning Staff and deemed complete for purposes of review, and
WHEREAS, applications for rezoning and zoning amendments are forwarded to the Town
Planning Department and Planning Board for recommendations in accordance with ~ 179-94 of the Town
Zoning Ordinance, and
WHEREAS, following such recommendations, the Queensbury Town Board will review the
rezoning applications and take such other action as it shall deem necessary and proper,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes and directs the
Town Clerk to submit the following application to the Queensbury Planning Board for report and
recommendation:
APPLICATION OF
Forest Enterprises, Inc.
TAX MAP NO'S:
109-4-4
LOCATION OF PROPERTIES
West Side of County Line Road, Queensbury
APPLICATION FOR
Extension of Mobile Home Overlay District
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby indicates its wish to be
Lead Agency for SEQRA review of this project and directs the Zoning Administrator's Office to notify any
involved agencies.
Duly adopted this 3rd day of May, 1999, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Tucker, Mr. Merrill, Mr. Turner, Mr. Irish, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
PLANNED DISCUSSIONS
OLD BUSINESS
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-Spoke with Chuck Rice regarding storage building noting he would like to
meet with the board regarding this matter, board to meet with him on Thursday. Questioned when the due
date is for propositions on the ballot in November?
TOWN COUNSEL, MR. SCHACHNER-Ninety days.
NEW BUSINESS
CONTROLLER, MR. HESS-Spoke to the board regarding the roof repair needed at Bay Ridge Rescue
Squad. Provided the board with a follow-up explaining the urgency. Looking for direction of the board as
to whether they can proceed to get the roof repaired the Town will consider its share of the cost. Under the
contract provisions with all the squads is that if they have an unusual need during the year we will entertain
a request. They have submitted a formal request the cost to do the roof repair itself with the contract is a
few dollars short of fifteen thousand. Insurance will cover some portion of that don't know how much.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-Questioned if the insurance company is paying the damage part? Questioned if
they are going to have the whole roof done now that they need a repair.
CONTROLLER, MR. HESS-There are two issues. The roof was never right from the beginning it has also
sustained ice damage. They want to get the roof done right there was no warranty on the original roof and
they need to get it fixed noting they had a leak in there before the ice damage. They have had several
contractors come in and give them guidance sent Chuck Rice up he came back confirming that the roof
needs to be recovered.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-Questioned if they have to bid the roof if it cost more than five thousand?
CONTROLLER, MR. HESS-Would give them an additional appropriation to cover additional expenses
noting they have bid it out.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-Questioned if they are talking about the Town paying the full cost excluding
what the insurance pays or are they going to split the remainder with the Town for money they
already have?
CONTROLLER, MR. HESS-They are asking the Town to pick up the full shot except for the incidentals.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-Questioned how old the roof is?
CONTROLLER, MR. HESS-It was done five or six years ago. One thing we insisted on this time was to
sure they get a warranty so that there is a ten year waterproof warranty and a twenty year warranty on the
membrane covering it.
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-Questioned if they had any guarantees from the contractor?
CONTROLLER, MR. HESS-They determined through their legal counsel any guarantee they had was not
enforceable.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-Noted Councilman Tucker and himself are on the Fire Committee thinks they
should get a better idea of what is going on. Councilman Irish and Councilman Tucker to set up a meeting
with Connie Tucker.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. ROUND-Spoke to the board regarding the resignation of Fire Marshal,
Kip Grant effective July 24th. Looking for authorization to advertise position noting he would like to get
a replacement on staff in advance ofMr. Grant's departure to allow a smooth transition. The following
resolution was passed.
RESOLUTION ACCEPTING RESIGNATION OF FIRE MARSHAL KIP GRANT
RESOLUTION NO. 165. 99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Douglas Irish
Resolution to accept resignation of Fire Marshal Kip Grant and to advertise position.
Duly adopted this 3rd day of May, 1999, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Merrill, Mr. Turner, Mr. Irish, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Champagne
Noes: None
Absent:None
WORKSHOP
NONE
ATTORNEY MATTERS
NONE
OPEN FORUM 9: 16 P.M.
BOB VOLLARO-Spoke to the board regarding the private sewer extension for Baybridge. There will be
two lines going up one will be a dedicated Valente line force main and the other will be the Baybridge
force main. We want to keep them separate so the two pumps don't conflict with one another if both pumps
have to pump at the same time.
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-Questioned if this is so he can develop the land in the front?
MR. VOLLARO-Either develop it or sale it. His plan is to develop with a office building that would be for
professionals if not successful for that he plans on selling it. If we don't go with this and now that the
college is off the line if we can't get this all into play would like the Town Board to consider changing the
zoning from MR-5 to something more appropriate than what it is now.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Commended them for doing this.
DENNIS BROWER, QUEENSBURY-Questioned the status of Queensbury Forest Engineering Study?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Highway Committee scheduled May 4th, at 10:30 a.m. drainage.
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-Questioned how this got back over to Highway? Recommended having the
people come in and have the engineer talk to thern.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Noted they intend to do that.
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-Questioned when?
COUNCILMAN IRISH-Noted how did Paul get involved with Mr. Nace was dealing with the Town
Board. Highway didn't have anything to do with this we hired Tom Nace we asked Tom Nace for his
opinion now we have to go to a Highway Committee Meeting to get the information out of him that we
asked him for. Questioned why this was scheduled for the Highway Committee?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Going back originally there was a plan where Mr. Naylor would get
involved in the actual corrective procedure to make it work over there. Noting all he is trying to do is get
enough information together so that we know the most economical most feasible way to approach the
problem.
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-Noted he doesn't think the Highway Department should have anything to do
with this.
MR. BROWER-Questioned if they drilled the test holes?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-No. We're told by the hydraulist not to do that it
ATTORNEY MATTHEW 1. JONES, REPRESENTS DEVELOPER OF THE INDIAN RIDGE
PROJECT -MARK HOFFMAN AND ROGER BOOR CITIZENS FOR QUEENSBURY -Spoke to the
board regarding the Indian Ridge Project noting they are pleased to tell the board that they have reached a
conceptual agreement for the development of the Indian Ridge Project. Thanked Councilman Tucker and
Councilman Irish with their assistance in reaching the agreement (Presented the board with a conceptual
map). They will be redrawing the development agreement that the board first considered in August of
1996, to do this in the next couple of weeks with the Town Attorney in hopes that it will back to you in two
weeks for approval of the developmental agreement. Noted that the project went from a hundred and
eleven single family homes and nine duplex lots to seventy five single family lots. In addition the
development is now moved further to the south and west. It is generally outside of the area which has been
known as the critical environmental area with a small exception for lots thirty eight, thirty nine, forty and
forty one. In addition we provided some significant access to property which will be donated to the Town
along the top of the bank. In the previous plan it was the area from the top of the ridge generally done into
the wet area that was going to be conveyed. Now we are going to make public propose a deed to you all of
this along the top which will make a pretty nice area passive recreation. Propose one additional change that
is to go from a senior citizen housing area of seven point one acres up to an area of ten acres. That area
will remain proposed as senior citizen housing, but will be available through the Town to be acquired for
the same per acre price that we had put in the previous draft Up to ten acres for needs that the Town may
determine have greater weight or more immediate need than senior housing would leave this to the
prerogative of the Town to make that decision. Would hope to incorporate those into a PUD Draft
Agreement and have it available for your workshop then adoption here in two weeks, will permit us to
continue the Planning Board process for site plan approval.
MARK HOFFMAN, QUEENSBURY-Spoke to the board regarding the conceptual plans noting his
concerns for upcoming issues. Encouraged the Town to continue to be vigilant and to make sure that what
we think is what we're getting is actually what we do get. Suggested when the PUD agreement is
completed and when the Planning Board has had a chance to look at this that they look at ways to try to
minimize clear cutting of lots that will be developed. Need to look carefully at the phasing and try to make
sure that phasing is done is such a way that the least amount of impact occurs early on. Encouraged the
Town to require that the senior housing be reserved for senior housing and no other residential use noting
that one of the concerns they've had if senior housing does not materialize that potentially at a later date
that could be developed for residential purposes, it may be worth looking at defining what senior housing
is. Would like the Planning Board as well as the Town Board to consider what the pedestrian traffic
patterns will be through the neighborhood. Might want to identify which roads would be most likely to be
used what the access to the school might be and consider whether sidewalks or other methods of protecting
pedestrians would be appropriate there. The Town will need to consider what the traffic impact of this will
be. Encouraged the Town to think carefully about what mayor may not be necessary and what the impact
of any additional road construction would be on the neighborhood. Strongly encouraged any traffic
mitigation measures that are put forth that they include consideration of pedestrian bicycle safety.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Questioned if it is necessary now because of the single family rather than a
mix zone to go the PUD or could you just rezone it single family is a PUD still required?
ATTORNEY JONES-You have legislation currently on the books which would authorize us to proceed
simply with the adoption of a PUD amendment.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Asked Town Counsel if this made sense?
TOWN COUNSEL, MR. SCHACHNER-Yes, it makes sense conceptually. Again, Mr. Jones continues to
indicate that they are going to request this board actually execute the Development Agreement as soon as
two weeks from now. Our position has been for almost three years and will continue to be that you can do
that if you wish at this juncture, but you can also if you wish wait for the Planning Board Site Plan Review
to occur so that some of those final details are ironed out and at that time execute the Development
Agreement.
ATTORNEY JONES-The actual rezoning does not occur until the execution of the PUD Development
Agreement. That is a challenge to us actually going to the Planning Board because we're not correctly
zoned until the Town takes that action. The hopes that we aspired to with the Citizens for Queensbury is
that if we came before you this united that the Town might join us at that point and say that setting a
maximum number of units at seventy five and some of the other issues we addressed now we would prefer
to have the Planning Board perform its legal function which is to go through and examine the traffic and
the engineering and soils, etc.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Questioned how large a piece is the critical environmental area that they
are leaving?
ATTORNEY JONES-About fourteen acres on top of the bank will get board correct number.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Wants to make sure everyone is comfortable with what's been said in
relative to, if that is going to be in lieu of fees. This is contingent and is up to the board to make that
determination. The ten acres for senior housing or Town purchase all of this is contingent on the future.
ATTORNEY JONES-There is no requirement that the Town would purchase this at all the goal is to have
one or the other occur. If the Town had interest in this would like to know sooner than later. In regard to
the fees have not proposed a waiver of fees.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Questioned if they have spoken to the Recreation Commission?
ATTORNEY JONES-No. Mr. Round did send information on requirements fees doesn't know if they
would qualify.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Please they have been able to work it through.
MR. HOFFMAN-Encouraged the Town to accept the open space protection.
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-Questioned if this goes in front of the Planning Board for additional
recommendation?
TOWN COUNSEL, MR. SCHACHNER-Noted what would happen next is the proposal would go to the
Planning Board for a site plan review.
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-Questioned if their recommendations would come back to the board?
TOWN COUNSEL, MR. SCHACHNER-On site plan review the Planning Board has binding authority.
The Town Board has the binding authority on the PUD legislation.
BERNARD RAHILL, WARD 2, DISTRICT 4, QUEENSBURY -Commended Craig MacEwan for his
leadership in not allowing clear cutting to occur until further notice of the board. Spoke to the board noting
his concern with clear cutting and soil erosion. Questioned who is doing the work on the sewer in different
wards?
COUNCILMAN IRISH-Noted they haven't put a bid out on this yet noting they can have the Highway
Department do it or can have a contractor come in and bid it.
MR. RAHILL-Questioned if they have a choice?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Noted if they are talking about surface water drainage it is a Town Board
responsibility by law. There are times when the Highway Department agrees to do drainage there are other
times where we would go out and bid it.
MR. RAHILL-Questioned the rationale for this?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Depending on the size of the project.
MR. RAHILL-Questioned what is the Highway Department doing at the present time?
COUNCILMAN TUCKER-Cleaning streets.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Preparing to get ready for black topping and drainage projects.
MR. RAHILL-Questioned who oversees the Purchasing Agent?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Noted he does.
MR. RAHILL-Questioned who is the Purchasing Agent at the present time?
COUNCILMAN IRISH-MicheIle Weller.
MR. RAHILL-Questioned if they could publish the agendas for Town Board Meetings, Planning Board
Meetings, and Zoning Board of Appeals Meetings in the Post Star?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-It can't be done.
MR. RAHILL-Questioned the cost of the Newsletter?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Four thousand dollars for twelve thousand copies each.
MR. RAHILL-Questioned how much the mailing cost?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Noted Mr. Rahill could contact him tomorrow will do his best to get the
information to hirn.
MR. RAHILL-What was the rationale for the Newsletter?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-People wanted it.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-Noted they have received good response from the newsletter.
MR. RAHILL-Noted he never received a copy of the Recreation Questionnaire asked what the rationale for
this was? Asked for information on the Earltown Mobile Home Road Park?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Noted he has a conceptual plan showing that information. It hasn't been to
the Town Board or Planning Board.
MR. RAHILL-Asked for the requirements to place a proposition on the ballot in the election?
TOWN COUNSEL, MR. SCHACHNER-There are very specific, very technical requirements for limited
propositions that can be placed on a ballot.
MR. RAHILL-Questioned how the Indian Ridge Project fits within the Comprehensive Use Plan.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-The plan that was in place when the PUD was instituted was three acre
zoning. When we were writing the Comprehensive Land Use Plan the PUD was essentially in effect.
MR. RAHILL-It is now one half acre.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-Final recommendation came out again to three acres in the final, noting keep
in mind the PUD is still in effect that's the over ruling.
MR. RAHILL-Questioned the number of trees they will be planting on the Indian Ridge Project. Thinks
they should have a residential plan with an exact number of trees that should be planted on each property in
order to avoid soil erosion and in order to provide more oxygen in Queensbury.
MR. LOU STONE-Thanked Councilman Irish for noting that the Town does not enforce covenants and
deeds. Recommended using titles to address people. Spoke to the board regarding using a septic system
management system for North Queensbury.
COUNCILMAN MERRILL-Had discussion along those lines with Mr. Lamy will continue this.
MR. SALVADOR-Spoke to the board concerning Public Health Code Appendix 75A addressing the issues
of holding tanks. Spoke to the board regarding Mr. Springer's deed encumbrance noting in the event that
they have a Wastewater Management District in North Queensbury that encumbrance would no longer
burden his property he would then be allowed to use that space as a bedroom. Spoke to the board regarding
the County Lake George Basin Sewer Committee they talked about the holding tanks being used Mr. Lamy
assured him they be in touch with O'Brien and Gere and in effort to get the EIS that is going to be redone.
Spoke to the board regarding a violation of a site plan for the Dunham's Bay Boat Company. They are
beginning to use a site as a solid waste storage and handling area. Asked Code Enforcement Officer, Craig
Brown to look into this. Spoke to the board regarding the resignation of the Fire Marshal noting maybe
they could share services.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-Noted Queensbury has one of the lowest loss ratio for structural fires in Warren
County.
MR. SALVADOR-Spoke to the board regarding Hudson River Park and the construction of a volleyball
court noting his concern for no bathroom facilities at the park. Noted if they construct a mound system for
a sanitary wastewater treatment can you the surface as a volleyball court. Spoke to the board noting the
need for an official mapping of the wetlands.
BETTY MONAHAN, QUEENSBURY-Questioned if they know the location of the mobile homes to the
flight plans noting this was one of the original discussions with the single family residences.
SUPERVISOR CHAMP AGNE- The location is west side of County Line Road.
MRS. MONAHAN-Recommended a letter to the editor colunm in the Newsletter for two-way
communication. Spoke to the board regarding Indian Ridge fitting into the Comprehensive Use Plan.
Noting you do your most intense development where the Town services are you also do it close to the
schools. Also with a PUD plan you cut down on the roads within the site itself. Spoke to the board
regarding clear cutting the cutting of trees was very closely regulated both for the quality of life on the
individual lots. Recommended the Town look into the cost effectiveness into installing a underground
sprinkler system.
COUNCILMAN IRISH-Noted Mr. Rice is putting an estimate together on this.
RESOLUTION ENTERING EXECUTIVE SESSION
RESOLUTION NO. 166.99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Richard Merrill
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from Regular Session and
enters into Executive Session to discuss one personnel matter.
Duly adopted this 3rd day of May, 1999, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Merrill, Mr. Turner, Mr. Irish, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Champagne
Noes: None
Absent:None
RESOLUTION ADJOURNING EXECUTIVE SESSION AND
REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING
RESOLUTION NO. 167. 99
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Richard Merrill
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from Executive Session
and moves back into Regular Session, and
BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns its Regular Meeting.
Duly adopted this 3rd day of May, 1999, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Turner, Mr. Irish, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Merrill, Mr. Champagne
Noes: None
Absent:None
No further action taken.
On motion, the meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully Submitted,
Darleen M. Dougher
Town Clerk
Town of Queensbury