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03-26-2019 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING SECOND REGULAR MEETING MARCH 26, 2019 INDEX Subdivision No. 13-2018 Clear Brook, LLC 1. Freshwater Wetlands 6-2018 Tax Map No. 316.14-1-6 PRELIMINARY STAGE FURTHER TABLING Subdivision No. 1-2019 Jeremy Entwistle & Cassie Leonard 2. PRELIMINARY STAGE Tax Map No. 265.-1-73.1 Site Plan No. 13-2019 Christian & Eustacia Sander 4. Tax Map No. 226.15-1-19 Site Plan No. 11-2019 Scott John 10. Tax Map No. 309.13-2-16 Site Plan No. 12-2019 Just Goods, Inc. 17. Tax Map No. 303.15-1-32 Discussion 1-2019 Alex & Michelle Wilcox 24. DISCUSSION ITEM Tax Map No. 278.20-1-3 THESE ARE NOT OFFICIALLY ADOPTED MINUTES AND ARE SUBJECT TO BOARD AND STAFF REVISIONS. REVISIONS WILL APPEAR ON THE FOLLOWING MONTH’S MINUTES (IF ANY) AND WILL STATE SUCH APPROVAL OF SAID MINUTES. 1 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING SECOND REGULAR MEETING MARCH 26, 2019 7:00 P.M. MEMBERS PRESENT STEPHEN TRAVER, CHAIRMAN CHRIS HUNSINGER, VICE CHAIRMAN DAVID DEEB, SECRETARY JAMIE WHITE BRAD MAGOWAN JOHN SHAFER MICHAEL VALENTINE MICHAEL DIXON, ALTERNATE (FILLED IN FOR S. TRAVER ON ONE APPLICATION) LAND USE PLANNER-LAURA MOORE STENOGRAPHER-MARIA GAGLIARDI MR. TRAVER-Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Town of Queensbury th Planning Board meeting for Tuesday, March 26, 2019. This is the second meeting for March and this is our sixth meeting thus far for 2019. Please take note of the illuminated exit signs. In the event of an emergency that is your way out. At the table at the rear of the room there are some agendas if you would like one for our meeting tonight and there are also some guidelines for public hearings of which we will be holding a few on different applications this evening. So feel free to pick up those if you would like. First, before we begin our regular agenda, we have one administrative item, and that’s a Subdivision Preliminary Stage 13-2018 and Freshwater Wetlands 6-2018 for Clear Brook, LLC. ADMINISTRATIVE ITEM SUBDIVISION PREL. 13-2018 & FRESHWATER WETLANDS 6-2018 CLEAR BROOK, LLC – REQUEST FOR FURTHER TABLING MR. TRAVER-Laura, can you give us an update? MRS. MOORE-So I’m requesting that you further table this application. What has happened has that the applicant and the Town Attorney are in discussions now in regards to the easement language and the subdivision development. So at this time there’s still a discussion. They have not put it on an agenda. So we need to further table our agenda, and I would suggest tabling it to the first meeting in April. th MR. TRAVER-In April. Okay. All right. That would be the 16. th MRS. MOORE-The 16. MR. TRAVER-And that’s also the evening that we have the early gathering for the low impact development training. Correct? MRS. MOORE-Correct. MR. TRAVER-And are we, does it still appear that we’re going to have three meetings in April? MRS. MOORE-Yes, it does. 2 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) th MR. TRAVER-Okay. All right. So that would be April 16. And we have a resolution for that. Do any of the Board members want to discuss that further? I think we’re pretty aware of this project. We’ve looked at it a number of times. We’ve been to the site and it’s been tabled a few times for their preparations. So this is just another effort to help them get it cleared up. RESOLUTION TABLING SUB. PRELIM. STG. 13-2018 FWW 6-2018 CLEAR BROOK, LLC SEQR: Applicant proposes a water district expansion to include two of the fourteen proposed lots. SEQR coordinated review. Planning Board to seek lead agency. Project Description: Applicant proposes a 14 lot residential subdivision of a 145.30 acre parcel. Project is within I-87 overlay zone. Currently in review process with Planning Board. Pursuant to Chapter 183 and Chapter 94 of the Zoning Ordinance, subdivision of land and work within 100 ft. of a wetland shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval. Project was tabled on 8/28/18 to 10/16/18. Tabled on 10/16/18 to 12/18/18. Tabled on 1/15/19 to 2/12/19. Tabled on 2/19/19 to 3/19/19 to resolve SEQR items. Request to further table. MOTION TO TABLE SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY STAGE 13-2018 & FRESHWATER WETLANDS PERMIT 6-2018 CLEAR BROOK, LLC. Introduced by David Deeb who moved for its adoption. Tabled to the April 16, 2019 Planning Board meeting. th Seconded by Brad Magowan. Duly adopted this 26 day of March, 2019 by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Valentine, Mr. Traver NOES: NONE MR. TRAVER-All right. Next we begin our regular agenda. The first area is Old Business and the first application is Jeremy Entwistle and Cassie Leonard. Application is a Subdivision Preliminary Stage 1-2019. OLD BUSINESS: SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY STAGE 1-2019 SEQR TYPE: UNLISTED. JEREMY ENTWISTLE & CASSIE LEONARD. AGENT(S): HUTCHINS ENGINEERING. OWNER(S): SAME AS APPLICANT. ZONING: RR-3A. LOCATION: 1434 BAY ROAD. APPLICANT PROPOSES A TWO LOT SUBDIVISION OF A 54.8 ACRE PARCEL INTO A 3 ACRE PARCEL FOR A NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND A 51.8 ACRE PARCEL WITH AN EXISTING HOME TO REMAIN. APPLICANT PROPOSES SEVERAL WAIVERS AT PRELIMINARY STAGE INCLUDING CLEARING PLAN, GRADING AND EROSION CONTROL AND STORMWATER. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 183 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, SUBDIVISION OF LAND SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE: PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED 169-2015 SF HOME; BOTH 359-2015 GARAGE. WARREN CO. REFERRAL: N/A. SITE INFORMATION: APA, CEA, WETLANDS. LOT SIZE: 54.8 ACRES. TAX MAP NO. 265.-1-73.1. SECTION: CHAPTER 183. LUCAS DOBIE, REPRESENTING APPLICANT, PRESENT MR. TRAVER-Laura? 3 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) MRS. MOORE-So at this time it’s a two lot subdivision. The applicant did receive the variance request where it was done for the lot width where they’re proposing 400 where 800 is required. At this time the application should be tabled and I’m sure the applicant’s representative will explain that detail in reference to stormwater. I would recommend May st 21. MR. TRAVER-Okay. Good evening. Welcome back. MR. DOBIE-Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Good evening, Board. Again for the record Lucas Dobie with Hutchins Engineering representing Jeremy Entwistle and Dr. Cassie Leonard who are unable to be with us again this evening but they hope to make the next meeting so you can put a face with the project at least. Again we’re just proposing a pretty simple three acre subdivision along Bay Road along their northerly road frontage and we’re comfortable with our site slopes and we did ask for a number of waivers for our previous submission, just to allow us to get to the Zoning Board to get a yes or no if this project was going to fly. So we were successful and we’re preparing our topographic survey work and again we ask that th we table it. Laura’s put a little too much squeeze on me to get it in for April 15, so if we could get it in for one of the June meetings we’d be more comfortable with that, to allow us to prepare a Major stormwater project and Preliminary and Final subdivision. MR. TRAVER-Okay. All right. So one of the June meetings. So we were going to table th you to the first May meeting. So how about the first June meeting, that would be the 18. Would that work? MR. DOBIE-That would be very good. MR. TRAVER-Would that be acceptable to you, Laura? MRS. MOORE-That’s fine. th MR. TRAVER-Okay. So then that would be a tabling motion to June 18. So that would th give you until May 15 for your stormwater. All right. Does anyone have any questions for the applicant? It’s fairly straightforward. We discussed this anticipated tabling the last time he was here. If there’s no question. Actually there is a public hearing on this as well. Although if we’re tabling it, should we open it? There’s not likely to be comment, I wouldn’t think, at this stage. MRS. MOORE-Correct. You can open it at this time. MR. TRAVER-And just keep it open. Okay. All right. So we’ll open the public hearing on this application and ask is there anyone in the audience that wanted to address the Planning Board on this application? I’m not seeing anyone. Do we have any written comments on this yet? PUBLIC HEARING OPENED MRS. MOORE-There’s no written comments. MR. TRAVER-Okay. All right. Well since we’re tabling it we’ll leave the public hearing open and see what happens in June when you come back. We’re ready for that motion. RESOLUTION TABLING SUB PRELIM. STAGE 1-2019 ENTWISTLE & LEONARD A subdivision application has been made to the Queensbury Planning Board for the following: Applicant proposes a two lot subdivision of a 54.8 acre parcel into a 3 acre parcel for a new 4 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) single family home and a 51.8 acre parcel with an existing home to remain. Applicant proposes several waivers at preliminary stage including clearing plan, grading and erosion control and stormwater. Pursuant to Chapter 183 of the Zoning Ordinance, subdivision of land shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval. MOTION TO TABLE SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY STAGE 1-2019 JEREMY ENTWISTLE & CASSIE LEONARD. Introduced by David Deeb who moved for its adoption, seconded by Michael Valentine. th Tabled until the June 18, 2019 Planning Board meeting with information due by May 15, 2019. th Duly adopted this 26 day of March, 2019 by the following vote: AYES: Ms. White, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Valentine, Mr. Deeb, Mr. Traver NOES: NONE MR. DOBIE-Thank you very much. MR. TRAVER-Next on our agenda, also under Old Business, is Christian and Eustacia Sander, Site Plan 13-2019. SITE PLAN NO. 13-2019 SEQR TYPE: TYPE II. CHRISTIAN & EUSTACIA SANDER. AGENT(S): HUTCHINS ENGINEERING. OWNER(S): SAME AS APPLICANT. ZONING: WR. LOCATION: 98 BAY PARKWAY. APPLICANT PROPOSES A 632 SQ. FT. GARAGE ADDITION TO AN EXISTING HOME. PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES REMOVAL OF AN EXISTING DETACHED GARAGE AND SHED, AND INSTALLATION OF PERMEABLE PAVERS TO REPLACE A SLATE WALKWAY AT FRONT OF HOME. NEW SHORE REPLANTING IS ALSO PROPOSED. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-13-010 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, EXPANSION OF A NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE IN A CEA SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE: AV 5-1998, AV 55-1995, AV 14-2000, AV 86-2001, SP 1-2002, AV 1-2002, 2000-417 SEPTIC ALT. WARREN CO. REFERRAL: N/A. SITE INFORMATION: APA, CEA, WETLANDS. LOT SIZE: 54.8 ACRES. TAX MAP NO. 226.15-1-19. SECTION: 179-13-010. TOM HUTCHINS, REPRESENTING APPLICANT, PRESENT MR. TRAVER-Laura? MRS. MOORE-This applicant proposes to construct a 632 square foot garage addition to an existing home. The project includes removal of existing detached garage and a shed and installation of permeable pavers to replace a slate walkway at the front of the home. The applicant did receive their variance in regards to Floor Area and setbacks and permeability I believe, and they’re now back in front of this Board. MR. TRAVER-Okay. Welcome back. Good evening. MR. HUTCHINS-Good evening, Board. Tom Hutchins, Hutchins Engineering, with applicants/owners Christian and Eustacia Sander. We were here last week. As an update we did receive the variances at the Zoning Board and we’re back here for Site Plan Review. This is a three bedroom residence. It was constructed in the 1990’s, ’95. CHRISTIAN SANDER 5 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) MR. SANDER-’98. MR. HUTCHINS-’98, and the septic system was replaced under permit with the Town in 2010 and that’s a compliant system. Again they propose a 632 square foot attached garage and that would result in the removal of the one car garage. I don’t know if you had a chance to take a look at it, the one car garage that’s right next to the road. We’re going to be pushing that back significantly, attaching to the house. What this’ll do is, besides give them a two car garage for their full time residence. MR. TRAVER-This also covers the entrance to the basement, too, as I recall. MR. HUTCHINS-It will. Yes, the only entrance to the basement is a bilco door from the outside, and, yes, the garage will wrap around that. So they’ll be able to enter the basement from the garage. It’s truly a basement. There’s a furnace, an oil tank, and utilities, plumbing and piping and such. It’s not a finished. There’s no fixtures. It won’t be. It can’t be. With the site plan we’ve incorporated permeable surfaces in the new driveway as well as the shortened and revised walkway allowing access to the house. There are, Stacia’s a gardener of sorts and currently there’s a nice planting bed along the shoreline and also along the northern property line, and that’ll remain and be enhanced. With stormwater the entire house is currently guttered. There are infiltration devices at each corner of the house and I’ve marked them up on this mark-up plan. I admittedly didn’t have a lot of detail on the Site Plan submission. We don’t technically meet the criteria for providing a true stormwater plan. However we’re certainly open to discuss it and we have been considering that. With that, do you folks want to add anything or I can turn it over to the Board for questions. MR. SANDER-The property is naturally flat. We have a solid retaining wall that holds it flat so it’s just flat from the road. If you go out Assembly Point you can see a lot of sloping water that runs into the lake, but our location is flat as can be and we’re very conscientious about making sure it stays that way. MR. TRAVER-Okay. In your discussion with the ZBA and getting your variance, were there any changes to your plan, your Site Plan, other than what we saw last week? MR. HUTCHINS-No, no changes. MR. TRAVER-Okay. Questions from members of the Planning Board? I know we had quite a bit of discussion last week about the changes to the garage. This application also has a public hearing. Is there anyone here in the audience this evening that wants to discuss the application with the Planning Board? Yes, I see one hand. PUBLIC HEARING OPENED CHRIS NAVITSKY MR. NAVITSKY-Good evening, Board. Chris Navitsky, Lake George Water Keeper. Good evening. We had some comments and questions on this application. There was a Staff recommendation on a waiver from stormwater, but we don’t support that. We weren’t aware that there was stormwater on site, as Mr. Hutchins just said, but we feel, it’s stated actually that there’s reduction in impervious cover but I think if you do the math there’s actually an increase. So if we could provide whatever stormwater management that we could. It’s said that there’s reduction of 676. I think there’s actually an addition of that. So if we could get more stormwater I think that’d be beneficial. MR. TRAVER-So, excuse me, your read of the application is that there’s an increase in the impermeable? 6 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) MR. NAVITSKY-Yes. I see, you know, we’ve got the garage. I think it’s under their site development actually. I think there’s conflicting information. It just states that under, you know, the change in impervious it seems like there’s a net increase. The notes say the opposite. So maybe that should be clarified. Regarding the, when I spoke with Mr. Hutchins outside Tom said that there’s going to be gutters on the building. I wasn’t aware of that looking at the plans. So clearly that can route stormwater. There is some of the permeable pavers, the sidewalk that appears to be installed over the absorption field, which just, I don’t think we want to encourage runoff, albeit off of a sidewalk into our absorption area. It seems about 15% of that is going to be covered with that permeable and I wasn’t sure if the runoff was going to be controlled from the roof and dropping on that, but if there’s gutters then that can control that but you couldn’t tell by the site plan. I also would encourage a buffer to meet the Town’s requirements of 15 feet. There is some planting there already. I think they’ve addressed that, but that if that could meet the Town’s requirement, I think that was a recommendation from Staff as well. So those are our comments. Thank you. MR. TRAVER-Thank you. Is there anyone else that wanted to address the Planning Board on this application? Are there any written comments, Laura? PUBLIC HEARING OPENED MRS. MOORE-There are written comments. This first one is addressed to Christian and Eustacia, “Received the notices from the Queensbury Zoning and Planning regarding garage replacement, Bob and I have no problems with the proposed work and wish you the best of luck with the approval process. If you run into any glitches, let us know. Pamela Lester th Golde” And the second one is addressed to Chris. “I reviewed your plans on March 13, 2019 and have no issues with your construction. I wish you the best. Phil Morse, 90 Bay Parkway” MR. TRAVER-That’s it? MRS. MOORE-Yes. MR. TRAVER-All right. Thank you. And we will close the public hearing. PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED MR. TRAVER-We’ll ask the applicant to return to the table. As you heard in the public comment there are a couple of items. I counted three that maybe you could clarify or address. One was the permeability of the site. MR. HUTCHINS-Yes. My site development data, our site development data table is correct. There is an increase of 376 square feet of net impervious area, and Chris is correct that in some of the notation it’s noted that it’s a reduction but it’s an increase. It’s not represented as a reduction. It’s shown in the data, it’s in the application that it’s clearly an increase. It’s a slight increase, but it is an increase, and in countering that, again we’ve incorporated the permeable driveway and we’ve shown gutters, well we’ve included gutters in the plan along the new building and that will be taken, again, to an infiltration device along the south side. MR. TRAVER-And the gutters empty into? MR. HUTCHINS-They’re going to empty into an eaves trench along the south side of the new structure. 7 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) MR. TRAVER-Okay. MR. HUTCHINS-Away from the wastewater system. That’s why we’re doing that. The wastewater system is fairly close to where the new garage foundation wall will be. So we’re not going to drip that water into the wastewater system. MR. TRAVER-Okay. So there are not going to be permeable pavers over the distribution system? MR. HUTCHINS-There is a walkway, a sidewalk from the garage to the house that is over a corner of the wastewater system, yes, it is. Presently there’s a sidewalk that runs right across the center of that area. We’ve shown it to be converted to permeable pavers instead of a solid sidewalk. It is a reduction in area of that sidewalk because it’s shorter, but, yes, it indeed does go over a corner of the wastewater system. MR. TRAVER-And the remainder of the wastewater system is covered with grass. Right? MR. HUTCHINS-Yes and plantings. Predominantly grass. MR. TRAVER-Yes. All right, and then the other question was regarding the shoreline buffering and the 15 foot requirement in the Code. MR. HUTCHINS-There is, they have a nice shoreline buffer that’s there. It’s been there for so many years. Did you folks put it there? MR. SANDER-No. MR. HUTCHINS-It was there, and they do maintain it. It’s perennial plantings. I mean we didn’t survey the planting buffer. If you wanted to see that go to 15 feet, then we can do that. MR. TRAVER-Yes, but I mean that’s the Code and the goal, of course, is to help mitigate runoff into the lake. MR. HUTCHINS-Of course. MR. TRAVER-And this is a flat site so there shouldn’t be a tremendous amount of discharge, but that does, that buffer has a large impact on keeping the environment of the lake clean. MR. HUTCHINS-And it’s a nice buffer. I mean, this time of year it doesn’t look very appealing but I just looked at it today and it’s kind of wavy, curvy. There are areas I’m sure that it’s 15 foot. MR. TRAVER-That’s fine, but if you can enhance that, that would be great. Do other members of the Board have follow up comments after the public comment? MR. MAGOWAN-The only question I have, you know, it’s a masonry wall on the front side. Right? So you’re asking for them to come back into the lawn more with the buffer. MR. TRAVER-Right. The Code says 15 foot shoreline buffer. MRS. MOORE-That is a guidance. That’s a guidance. MR. MAGOWAN-It’s a guide. 8 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) MR. TRAVER-It’s a guide. Well, yes. So we want to try to enhance that. I mean they have one there, and they said they’d be willing to do that. So that should help. MR. SHAFER-Tom, there will be gutters on the new garage? MR. HUTCHINS-Yes. MR. SHAFER-There’ll be a standard pitch roof on the garage? MR. HUTCHINS-Yes. MR. SHAFER-How will you get the water from one side? MR. HUTCHINS-We’re going to pipe it across the front side of the garage. We’re going to gutter that catch it and pipe it across. MR. SHAFER-Gotcha. Okay. MR. TRAVER-Anything else? Any other questions? This is listed as a Type II so there’s no SEQR review required. All right. I guess we’re ready to hear the motion, then. RESOLUTION APPROVING SP # 13-2019 CHRISTIAN & EUSTACIA SANDER The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board for Site Plan approval pursuant to Article 9 of the Town zoning Ordinance for: Applicant proposes a 632 sq. ft. garage addition to an existing home. Project also includes removal of an existing detached garage and shed, and installation of permeable pavers to replace a slate walkway at front of home. New shore replanting is also proposed. Pursuant to Chapter 179-13-010 of the Zoning Ordinance, expansion of a nonconforming structure in a CEA shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval. Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-080, the Planning Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code; As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to the Warren County Planning Department for its recommendation; The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 03/26/2019 and continued the public hearing to 03/26/2019, when it was closed, The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all comments made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 03/26/2019; The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval, MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN 13-2019 CHRISTIAN & EUSTACIA SANDER. Introduced by David Deeb who moved for its adoption; Per the draft provided by staff conditioned upon the following conditions: 1) Waivers request granted: g. site lighting, h. signage, j. stormwater, k. topography, l. landscaping, n traffic, o. commercial alterations/ construction details, p floor plans, q. soil logs, r. construction/demolition disposal s. snow removal. 9 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) 2) Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution. a) If application was referred to engineering, then engineering sign-off required prior to signature of Zoning Administrator of the approved plans; b) Final approved plans should have dimensions and setbacks noted on the site plan/survey, floor plans and elevation for the existing rooms and proposed rooms in the building and site improvements, c) Final approved plans, in compliance with the Site Plan, must be submitted to the Community Development Department before any further review by the Zoning Administrator or Building and Codes personnel; d) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of Building Permit and/or the beginning of any site work; e) Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on compliance with this and all other conditions of this resolution; f) As-built plans to certify that the site plan is developed according to the approved plans to be provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy; g) Resolution to be placed on final plans in its entirety and legible. h) The buffer to be within guidelines for shoreline buffering. i) Final plans to include stormwater detail presented tonight. th Motion seconded by Brad Magowan. Duly adopted this 26 day of March, 2019 by the following vote: MR. DEEB-The buffer to be Code compliant at 15 feet. MR. TRAVER-Not Code compliant, but to follow guidelines at 15 feet. Because I was incorrect. It’s not actually Code. It’s an environmental guideline. MR. DEEB-Okay, and H, buffer to be within guidelines at 15 feet. MRS. MOORE-Within guidelines for shoreline buffering. MR. DEEB-Okay. Let’s re-phrase that. Buffer to be within guidelines, how are we going to do that? MR. TRAVER-For shoreline buffering. MR. DEEB-For shoreline buffering. MR. MAGOWAN-I’ll second it. MRS. MOORE-You mentioned that there’s some information on the plan that you’re seeing in front of you that’s going to be relayed on the final plans in reference to stormwater. Is that correct? So I would include one of your letters that the stormwater presented this evening is also part of the final plans. MR. TRAVER-Final plans to include stormwater detail presented tonight. MR. DEEB-Okay, and, I, final plan to include stormwater presentation given tonight. AYES: Mr. Shafer, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Valentine, Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Traver NOES: NONE MR. TRAVER-You’re all set. 10 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) MR. HUTCHINS-Thank you. MR. TRAVER-The next section of our agenda is under New Business, the first item being Scott John, application Site Plan No. 11-2019. NEW BUSINESS: SITE PLAN NO. 11-2019 SEQR TYPE: UNLISTED. SCOTT JOHN. OWNER(S): SAME AS APPLICANT. ZONING: CLI. LOCATION: BIG BAY ROAD. APPLICANT PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT A 1,200 SQ. FT. STEEL BUILDING AND SOME OUTSIDE STORAGE FOR A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY ROOFING COMPANY. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3- 040 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, NEW COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION AND OUTSIDE STORAGE SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE: UV 47-98, AV 49-98, SP 18-2013 CLEARING, SP 60- 2014 5,000 SF BLDG.; WARREN CO. REFERRAL: N/A. LOT SIZE: .34 ACRE. TAX MAP NO. 309.13-2-16. SECTION: 179-3-040. SCOTT JOHN, PRESENT MR. TRAVER-Laura? MRS. MOORE-Okay. So this applicant proposes to construct a 1200 square foot steel building and utilize some of the outside storage for the construction company that’s currently there, put all that outside storage inside. Again, the building size is 30 by 40. There’s height of 16 feet. There’s areas on either side that are eight feet in height and in front of you is a survey that was completed with the proposed building location. MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. Good evening. MR. JOHN-Hello. How are you doing? MR. TRAVER-State your name for the record. MR. JOHN-Scott John. MR. TRAVER-Tell us about your project. MR. JOHN-Well, I’ll make it short. My buddy Doc Poster had a bunch of garages behind his office on Pine Street in Glens Falls. I put a lot of my stuff in there. He sold it to, well, anyway, Ray Supply bought that property. So I got kicked out. I went down on Pruyn’s Island to a warehouse my buddy Claude Charlebois owns a warehouse down there. I put myself down there. Yankee Boats put boats in there. I got kicked out. I went to another warehouse on Pruyn’s Island. MPW from Ohio, they shut down mills, wants that building for three years. So guess who got kicked out. Me. I own that property on Big Bay Road. I’m going to move my stuff one more time and that’s going to be it. So that’s what I want to do. I just want to put a couple of trucks, my snow plow, you know, dump trailer, scaffolding, ladders, secured instead of out in the elements and in West Glens Falls. I’m not saying West Glens Falls is bad, but any place can be bad. MR. TRAVER-Sure. MR. JOHN-So that’s the reason I want to put this building up. MR. TRAVER-Okay. 11 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) MR. JOHN-With the required setbacks I do meet. I’m even going further back from the road an additional 50 feet. I don’t know what else you want. MR. TRAVER-Well you have no utilities. So no electricity MR. JOHN-No electricity, no water, no sewer. MR. DEEB-Will the building be able to store all your equipment? MR. JOHN-Yes. I also have a building in Glens Falls but it’s not big enough. That’s a working in and out every day building, and some of the stuff we don’t use all the time doesn’t need to be in there because it’s in the way. You’ve got to move that to get to this. I just want to put it up in there and be done with it. MR. TRAVER-Okay. MR. HUNSINGER-So why did you put the building back so far? MR. JOHN-When I pull in I want to be able to, it’s only 100 by 150 and if I put a 30 by 40 it kind of centers it. So if you go through the gate right now and if it’s only 50 feet back it’s kind of tight. MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. MR. JOHN-So I want to put it all the way back to the 30 foot setback from the rear, and 30 from the side. I want it as big as I can get it without looking obtrusive, but I want to put it back farther so I can pull in and turn around and drive out because they go down that road 100 miles an hour. I don’t know if you’ve ever been on Big Bay Road but they cruise, and you don’t want to back out. MR. VALENTINE-But that limits the possibility of rear expansion if you want to build on to it. MR. JOHN-Yes. There would never been any. It’s actually got a concrete, I don’t know, this old German guy built this concrete wall. It’s four foot high all the way around that property and it’s still there, and it runs, there’s a right of way between Stewart’s and that new, the Sky Zone. It’s like a weird, it does show it. It runs behind Cookie and Doreen and me and right down almost to. MR. VALENTINE-You have about seven or eight parcels all the way behind you guys. MR. JOHN-Yes. It’s a funny deal, but it’s not mine. MR. VALENTINE-The application materials mentioned outdoor storage a number of times. What will you be storing outside? MR. JOHN-Concrete blocks, some fascia, some soffits, some drip edge, some stuff that can be outside without being ruined. Craig Brown kind of got on me the other day. He got on me in a good way. I had put up a stockade fence way back so you can’t see that stuff, and he said I could have, I needed a permit. I didn’t know that. I’m just trying, when I bought it from Nick Daigle that place was in rough shape. It was a stump dump, boulders, overgrown. Bonnie and I spent all summer with a wheelbarrow and a one ton dump truck and cleaned it up. Now you can mow it. It’s flat. It’s nice, and I didn’t want all that firewood, that kind of stuff to be seen from the road. So he kind of let me slide on that so I just want to get stuff inside, you know, clean it up, because that’s how I run my life, clean and neat and organized. So that’s why I’m here. 12 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) MR. TRAVER-Okay. Understood. Other questions, comments from members of the Planning Board? MR. HUNSINGER-The other question I had is which direction is does the peak of the roof go? MR. JOHN-It’s going to go north and south. MR. HUNSINGER-Not towards the road. MR. JOHN-No, that would be east and west. MR. HUNSINGER-So you’re going to have to drive around to the side to get in? MR. JOHN-No, we’re going to go right in the front. Right in from the front, right in from Big Bay. Because being a roofer, you don’t want the snow dumped in the front of your garage doors because that sucks. My gable ends would be east and west. MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. MR. JOHN-I had a couple of quick questions if you’ve got time. MR. TRAVER-Sure. MS. WHITE-Can I ask one question? I just want to make sure that your intention is not to put any lighting on this building? MR. JOHN-No, ma’am. MS. WHITE-None? MR. JOHN-I might have, Cookie and Doreen next door let me run a lead cord over if I’m in there at night one time just to have some lights inside. MS. WHITE-There’s nothing, no light fixtures outside? MR. JOHN-No, ma’am. Because it’s cold. It’s cold storage. There’s no need to light it. MR. MAGOWAN-You’ve probably got enough spill from Curtis Lumber anyway. MR. JOHN-Yes, I know. My building could fit in Curtis’ building, or Kamco, you know. Okay. The setback from the road. Is that from the crown of the road? Do I start 25 feet in and then go 50? MRS. MOORE-No. So your property lines, you have two pins in there. You have to go back from that. We can discuss that when you do your pre-construction meeting. MR. JOHN-There’s a pre-construction meeting. So more money? MRS. MOORE-No. MR. JOHN-I’m like $800 bucks into this thing. MR. MAGOWAN-It’s a nice meeting. It’s really done up nice. 13 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) MR. JOHN-I mean when I had to go over to Darrah in Lake Luzerne for the survey update all they did was put my name on Nick Daigle’s piece of paper. Six hundred dollars, thank you. And $100 application fee and the 15 copies. I don’t know what a flash drive is. I have a computer. I don’t have a smart phone. They went on a flash drive. What the hell’s a flash drive? I had to go to Staples, another $17 bucks. MR. MAGOWAN-It’s a learning curve you just did. See? We just taught an old dog a new trick. MR. JOHN-Yes. Absolutely. Now I got a letter to be here last week at seven o’clock, and I was here at 6:30 and Laura came in and wanted to know what I was doing here. I said I’m supposed to be here and she said no, it’s next week. That really screwed something up for me. Over in Kingsbury Steve Shaw sells these steel buildings. He has a display building up there that I could get pretty reasonable if I took it down and put it up but that ship sailed because it got sold in the week I waited for this week. So my question to you, as long as it’s still the square footage, does it matter what the building looks like? MRS. MOORE-You’ll need to submit your building plans. So it’s 30 by 40. MR. JOHN-It’s still 30 by 40. It was going to be 18 by 31 with like two lean-tos off it, but that is going to change. It may be just one 30 by 40 building. MRS. MOORE-What we’ll do is when you find that set of plans that you are going to build, we will evaluate that. If it’s something significantly different, then it may have to come back before this Board. If the Zoning Administrator thinks it’s not significantly different that’s something the Zoning Administrator can review. MR. JOHN-All right. Okay. I mean it wouldn’t be any bigger. It may be a tad smaller. Okay, and the last question is, if you guys say yes I can do this, how long do I have to do it? Do I have to do it next week or can I do it in three months? MRS. MOORE-You have a year to complete your project. MR. JOHN-I have a year. Okay. That’s all my questions. MR. TRAVER-And theoretically you can come in and ask for an extension, but it sounds like something you’re going to do. MR. JOHN-Yes, I’ve got to do it. Like I say, I’m out now, I’m not on Pruyn. So I’ve got no place to put the stuff. MR. TRAVER-Okay. MR. HUNSINGER-So another question I had is on landscaping, in terms of clearing. Are you planning to clear any of the existing? MR. JOHN-No. MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. MR. JOHN-Whatever Nick didn’t clear is still there. MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. MR. JOHN-It’s kind of nice. It’s got, they say 33.7% green. I think I’ve got that plus. No, nothing else is coming down. There’s a perfect place for that building to go. 14 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. MR. MAGOWAN-Yes. I was just at Curtis the other day and I looked over. It looks so much better. A lot of hard work. MR. JOHN-I appreciate that. Me and Bonnie we busted our ass on that. I mean we don’t have equipment. I mean Nick was supposed to come in with a backhoe and an open trailer and he wanted a burial out of it, which is just going to settle, the stumps, you know how that’s going to work. I said, no, if you don’t want to take it out, Nick, I’ll do it. So we cut it up into pieces I could lift and got it out of there, and my buddy Dave Summers came in with a skid steer and he leveled it. I planted it and I mow it with a lawnmower now. I appreciate that very much. I do. MR. MAGOWAN-I remember when Nick owned it. MR. JOHN-I’m just trying to make it look nice. That’s all. MRS. MOORE-Can I suggests one more question? MR. JOHN-Man, she’s been a pain in my ass since we started. No. She’s been super with me. She sat down with me and we went line by line and it was like we were in high school cheating. She said, what have you got for Number Six, what have you got for Number Seven? MRS. MOORE-And in reference to fencing, of course you mentioned landscaping and fencing also fits that bill. You have existing fence, that’s six feet in the back or is there new fencing that you’re proposing? MR. JOHN-No. Some of that’s going to come down because it’s going to be in the way, but there will be no new fence at all. MRS. MOORE-Okay. Is there a current fence that’s six feet? Because if it’s existing now and you put it up then we should put it on your plan so it’s approved as is. MR. JOHN-Okay. MRS. MOORE-So I guess would it be on the west side of the property? MR. JOHN-It comes off the south side eight feet, goes down the west side 30 feet, heads north about 20 feet, an opening, and then another 20 feet going north. MR. VALENTINE-So you could always have Darrah come back out to the site? MR. JOHN-What’s that? What did he say? MR. VALENTINE-I’m kidding. MRS. MOORE-So that’s something that we should put on the plan. MR. JOHN-What did he say? MR. MAGOWAN-We ought to put that on the plan. MR. JOHN-Okay. 15 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) MRS. MOORE-That should be on the final plan, yes. Okay, and it’s six feet and it’s stockade? MR. JOHN-Yes, ma’am. MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you, Laura. We have a public hearing on this application as well. Is there anyone in the audience that wanted to address the Planning Board on this application? I’m not seeing anyone. Is there any written comments, Laura? PUBLIC HEARING OPENED MRS. MOORE-There’s no written comments. MR. TRAVER-Okay. Then we’ll go ahead and close the public hearing. This is SEQR Type II. So no SEQR action is needed by our Board. Do we have a motion? MR. DEEB-Okay. RESOLUTION APPROVING SP # 11-2019 SCOTT JOHN The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board for Site Plan approval pursuant to Article 9 of the Town zoning Ordinance for: Applicant proposes to construct a 1,200 sq. ft. steel building and some outside storage for a construction company –roofing company. Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040 of the Zoning Ordinance, new commercial construction and outside storage shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval. Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-080, the Planning Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code; The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 03/26/2019 and continued the public hearing to 03/26/2019, when it was closed, The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all comments made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 03/26/2019; The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval, MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN 11-2019 SCOTT JOHN. Introduced by David Deeb who moved for its adoption; Per the draft provided by staff conditioned upon the following conditions: 1) Waivers request granted: g. site lighting, h. signage, j. stormwater, k. topography, l. landscaping, n traffic, o. commercial alterations/ construction details, p floor plans, q. soil logs, r. construction/demolition disposal s. snow removal. 2) Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution. a) If application was referred to engineering, then engineering sign-off required prior to signature of Zoning Administrator of the approved plans; b) Final approved plans should have dimensions and setbacks noted on the site plan/survey, floor plans and elevation for the existing rooms and proposed rooms in the building and site improvements, c) Final approved plans, in compliance with the Site Plan, must be submitted to the Community Development Department before any further review by the Zoning 16 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) Administrator or Building and Codes personnel; d) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of Building Permit and/or the beginning of any site work; e) Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on compliance with this and all other conditions of this resolution; f) As-built plans to certify that the site plan is developed according to the approved plans to be provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy; g) Resolution to be placed on final plans in its entirety and legible. h) Current six foot high stockade fencing to be part of the Site Plan. i) Building plans to be the same or less square footage as proposed. Motion seconded by Brad Magowan. Duly adopted this 26th day of March, 2019 by the following vote: MR. HUNSINGER-So can we say something in the resolution that would give him some flexibility in the actual building design? Because he said it might not look like what was presented. MRS. MOORE-This building. You could maybe use language that says building similar to. MR. HUNSINGER-Well if he comes up with just a square building, that’s not similar to what’s on. MR. MAGOWAN-Yes. The same square footage. MR. JOHN-It would be the same square footage or less. MRS. MOORE-You could use the same square footage. MS. WHITE-Use that language. MR. DEEB-Yes. MR. TRAVER-Okay. MR. HUNSINGER-Well am I the only one that thinks that way? MR. MAGOWAN-Same square footage or less. MR. TRAVER-That would save us another agenda item. Okay. MR. HUNSINGER-Yes. Right. MR. VALENTINE-You wouldn’t have a flat roof would you? MR. JOHN-No, absolutely not. In Georgia maybe, but not Queensbury. MR. MAGOWAN-Not after this winter. MR. JOHN-No. MR. DEEB-Okay. I’ll amend the Site Plan to include Item I, building plans to be the same or less square footage as proposed. MR. MAGOWAN-I’ll second the amended motion. 17 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) MR. HUNSINGER-Does that clarify it? MR. DEEB-Is that enough, Laura? MRS. MOORE-That’s enough. MR. TRAVER-She’s going to be reviewing with the applicant the final design. AYES: Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Valentine, Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Traver NOES: NONE MR. TRAVER-You’re all set. Good luck. MR. JOHN-I appreciate it. Thanks to every one of you guys. I’ve been dreading this. On a side note, when my grandparents came through Ellis Island their name was Deeb, but the guy at Ellis Island put down John. My grandfather worked at Portland Cement, made $5 a week and he wanted to change his name back to Deeb but it was way too much money. So I think I’m a Deeb. Okay. Thanks, guys, and ma’am. MR. TRAVER-The next item on our agenda, also under New Business, is Just Goods. Inc., Site Plan 12-2019, and I have asked the Vice Chair to preside at this discussion as I am going to recuse myself. So, Chris, if you would do that for me. I’d appreciate it. Thank you. MRS. MOORE-So are you having Mike sit in as the alternate? MR. TRAVER-I’m sorry? MRS. MOORE-Is Mike sitting in as the alternate? MR. TRAVER-Yes. I mean that’s protocol. Right? Thank you, Mike. SITE PLAN NO. 12-2019 SEQR TYPE: TYPE II. JUST GOODS, INC. AGENT(S): MARK LEVACK. OWNER(S): NYS JOB DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY. ZONING: CLI. LOCATION: 276 DIX AVENUE. APPLICANT PROPOSES TO LEASE A 52,000 SQ. FT. BUILDING ON AN EXISTING SITE THAT HAS TWO OTHER BUILDINGS. THE TWO SMALLER BUILDINGS ARE LEASED BY OTHER TENANTS. THE APPLICANT WILL BE LEASING ONLY A PORTION OF THE 52,000 SQ. FT. BUILDING AT THIS TIME. THE LEASE OF THE REMAINING SPACE WILL OCCUR AT THE END OF DECEMBER 2019. NO SITE WORK IS PROPOSED AS ALL ALTERATIONS ARE INTERIOR. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE NEW USE OF EXISTING COMMERCIAL BUILDING SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE: SP 17-2000 NEW USE WAREHOUSE (SP 31-93); SP 13-2013 NEW USE MAINT. BLDG.; 2004-767 INT. ALT.; WARREN CO. REFERRAL: MARCH 2019. LOT SIZE: 9.55 ACRES. TAX MAP NO. 303.15-1-32. SECTION: 179- 3-040. JIM SIPLON, REPRESENTING APPLICANT, PRESENT MR. HUNSINGER-You’re up, Laura. MRS. MOORE-All right. So this applicant proposes to lease the 52,000 square foot building on an existing site that has two other buildings. The two smaller buildings are leased by other tenants. The applicant will be leasing a portion of the 52,000 square foot building for a period of time, I believe potentially until the end of December and will lease the entire 18 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) building, the 52,000 square feet. At this time it’ll be used for warehouse, processing area and packaging area. There is an area in the building that is used for office area, break room and lavatory area. And I will let the applicant speak if there’s additional information. MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. Good evening. MR. SIPLON-Good evening. MR. HUNSINGER-If you could identify yourself for the record. MR. SIPLON-I’m Jim Siplon, Chief Operating Officer of Just Water and the applicant here in question. MR. HUNSINGER-Could you tell us about your project. MR. SIPLON-Well hello again, everybody. MR. MAGOWAN-Welcome back. MR. SIPLON-I feel like it’s just been since yesterday, but since we last saw each other quite a bit has happened with our business, and the genesis of all that has led to us coming back to see you today. I’m proud that we’re able to put a presentation back together for you in terms of making application based on our growth. I’m proud of what has happened with the business. Since I saw you last we’re the Number One non-plastic water, and now that that’s a category that’s covered in the country. We’re the fastest growing brand in the bottled water business. We’re essentially in one out of three grocery stores in America and this past year we have begun our international expansion and opening operations in both Europe and now Australia. So in the time since we’ve seen you there’s been enormous growth associated with the brand which we’re happy about, but there are some things that have happened that I’d like to point out. We’ve had no complaints since I saw you last about anything, about truck traffic, about our operations in the City, about our presence up on the watershed property in Queensbury. I think that’s really important. That all happened because of very healthy dialogue with the community that led to I think a very sustainable project and I’m proud that we’re able to sit here in front of you today in a place where the commitments that we made as a company I believe that we’ve been able to honor and I believe that the community has endorsed that. Just the same we’re out of space where we are and unfortunately even though I am a proud resident of the City of Glens Falls, as you can see by my red pants. I was at the parade right before I came here. There’s not very many properties in Glens Falls Proper that are able to support an operation that is significantly larger than the one we already have. We initiated an effort to try to find available facilities as close to Glens Falls Proper as we could, and of course that means that Queensbury is the next closest community. We found a building that provides us both adequate space in the near term and expandability to be able to be a place we could stay for quite a bit of a long term. It’s currently occupied by another tenant. What we propose is to move them into one half of the building and take possession of the half that gets vacated. We would immediately begin to use that as warehousing space. We would also begin the process of discussing with the State how we might support our bottling operation there. We can’t say that we would do that until we have approval from them on an acceptable design, but I certainly want to share with you that it is our intention to support that, but we definitely need the space for warehousing. I have more than 1,000 pallets currently in various warehouses in the area and as our business grows we can see that being an even larger number. So our goal, and I want to correct one thing. We are not able to say definitively that we would take possession of the entire building by December of this year. We could take possession of the entire building as soon as December of this year, but the existing lease with that tenant has the right to follow whatever path it’s in. So they could choose to stay there for the entire tenure of their remaining piece which could be as many 19 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) as two or three years. Mark Levack who is the landlord of the building is here to be able to answer any questions that you might have about that, but what I would like to point out is that our goal was to try to develop in this area. If we could have done this in Glens Falls we would have. I explored every available space in Glens Falls. Our next option was to find something as close to the center of Glens Falls as we possibly could and to stay in this immediate area. I know that Queensbury and Glens Falls are two different communities from a municipality standpoint, but to me as somebody who’s only been here for five years I see it in some ways as an integrated community, and our goal was to stay in this area, and so we really sincerely hope that we can make our expansion work here. It would not only be good for the brand. I believe it would be good for the community. With that in mind I would like to point out that we chose a site that hopefully would pose no significant change in use. This building has been in place for nearly 20 years. It’s been a manufacturing and warehousing operation all of that time. Our intent is not to change anything about that. It’s simply to be the most recent chapter of its operation. It has good existing traffic patterns. It has more than ample parking. It certainly has the facilities that we would need in order for us to be able to grow our operations here, but our goal was to find some place that would not require significant modification, that would already appropriate the use of the space. I hope that we’ve been able to find that here. Finally I would just want to make sure that we’re here, not only today but at any time to both answer your questions here and we welcome any of you to our facility to come down and talk to us more about it if you’d like to know more. As we’ve always been we try to be an open book and a full member of the community, completely transparent. So with that, please let me know what questions you might have. MR. HUNSINGER-Questions, comments from the Board? MR. MAGOWAN-Well I want to thank you for doing your due diligence and keeping everything as close as you possibly can. You went through a rigorous process of coming here and between Glens Falls and Queensbury and all you did and you stayed and I’m so proud that it’s taken off and you’re doing so well. So I’m greatly honored to have part of you in Queensbury, too, because you know really one big group, because Queensbury surrounds Glens Falls and then you have the river. So I’m happy to welcome you over to the Queensbury side. So I have no issues here. MR. DIXON-Just from a lighting perspective, are you adding any additional lighting? MR. SIPLON-No. We believe the existing lighting which we tried to highlight in the application is sufficient. It’s been operating as a warehouse that would provide ample lighting for any truck traffic that would require it. So our intention is to just keep it as is. MR. SHAFER-About how many trucks per day would you see coming in and out of this facility? MR. SIPLON-Well all of that is based on the volumes that we produce. Today we do two to three water truck trips a day, and then we receive shipments perhaps several times a week of raw materials and then we have outgoing shipments of our finished product based on our production schedule, but it can be as many as two, sometimes as many as three trucks a day of output. So in total you know you could see a day where we might have ten trucks in a given day, but I think that would probably be the most. MR. SHAFER-The point is it’s not high intensity. MR. SIPLON-No. We are now running a second shift, and I would anticipate during the life of our tenure in this facility we would maybe even expand those hours to whatever is appropriate, but I think generally the trucking operations like to operate during the day. We don’t have a lot of after-hours deliveries or pick-ups. 20 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) MR. SHAFER-Gotcha. All right. Thank you. MR. VALENTINE-You’re not going to be doing any exterior site work, any changes. So everything you’re doing is internally? MR. SIPLON-Yes. MR. VALENTINE-You’ll be investing in whatever you have to set up for the warehousing aspect. MR. SIPLON-Yes. MR. VALENTINE-And this is really not a site plan thing. How long will you have before what you’ve invested for the interior will you hit a point where you say I’ve got to move somewhere else? MR. SIPLON-Well one of the reasons we chose this building is because the plan to take possession of half of it would take us through this year and next year in terms of our pro- forma growth expectations. Beyond that what we’d like is the ability to stay in place and expand, and so this facility offers us 25,000 more square feet if we took the entire facility, and the site could actually support even more, but the 25,000 square feet takes us all the way through our existing pro-forma. We would be able to store and produce all the product that we currently are planning to produce in that pro-forma period which is indefinite. I think if we were to get bigger than that, I’m not sure there’s a single building here that would be large enough and I think we’d probably be distributed where we would operate a second facility as opposed to trying to find one giant one. MR. VALENTINE-What would the size of that be? MR. SIPLON-Well at that point we’d be at more than 50,000 square feet on site, of which the vast majority of it would be warehousing. MR. VALENTINE-Your truck route, when you said the trucks were coming in and they’re going out. What market area are they headed to? What routes would they be using out of that facility? MR. SIPLON-Currently right now we use 3PL in Saratoga, Logistics One, and so they’re where most of my finished goods go as I produce them. They have a standing trailer in my yard and I fill that trailer and then as it’s full they come and get it. So they’re currently using the truck route out of Glens Falls to the Northway. I think in this site we would probably default to the more common truck route which would be one exit up and come down Quaker Road likely to this facility, but we would follow whatever the guidance is of the community in terms of directing their trucks. Instead of us moving it to the third party warehouse, though, these would be the trucks that would come from retailers like Target or grocery chains like Hannafords. Currently those are going to Logistics One, but it’s the same volume. I’m moving the product to them and they’re moving the volume out. So we’re just eliminating that one extra pass. MR. VALENTINE-So they’re going right to the retailer? MR. SIPLON-Right now the retailers pick up at their facilities. MR. HUNSINGER-One of the questions that I have, and it’s really not related to this Site Plan. At what point when you’re producing enough water does it make sense for you to put the pipe? We talked about the pipe. 21 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) MR. SIPLON-Well I actually did some exploration earlier this year because one of the things we looked at was whether or not we could develop near Exit 18 on the City’s property that they have in Tech Meadows, and we looked at least initially at the feasibility of bringing the water from a pipe line standpoint there. It is always conceivable from a technical standpoint. It’s very expensive, generally viewed as a million dollars a mile, but the larger issue was simply the indefinite time that it would likely take to permit and plan that with the various State and local agencies. DEC would be involved and others would be involved. There’s wetlands involved, and so the expectation was that that process could take time measured in years and unfortunately that’s not something that we can, we’ve got to figure out an answer sooner than that. I think our goal is to always continue to explore this. At some point the opportunity will be big enough for us to continue to explore it. So every so often we re-do another look at this. I think the other option is that we may, as we grow, choose to figure out maybe even a different well site on the hill to make that easier to plan. We’ve looked at some of the City’s property that borders more on West Mountain. From an exploratory standpoint it may be easier to put a well there and then run a pipe line than from its existing location. So we’re looking at both sides of this, but right now the timing on it is such that even if we were to pursue it I think it’s probably more likely to be years away from a permitting standpoint. And we’re not at a point where the volume of water is significant enough to warrant the cost. MR. HUNSINGER-I mean that’s really the question. So filling up this site that we’re looking at this evening, how many additional trucks per day do you anticipate, if you’re running two to three now? MR. SIPLON-Well, I think we’d probably expect that to double, but the existing provisions that we worked on the last time we were all together limit us to a certain amount of time, daylight only for instance. MR. HUNSINGER-Right. MR. SIPLON-So I would imagine that the most that we could ever do would be to say put two trucks in play over a 10 or 12 hour period, and the dwell time is typically at least an hour. So we originally said that we could do as many as 12, maybe even as many as 16 truck trips a day. I don’t think we’ll ever be able to get there logistically. I think it’s likely that somewhere between five and ten is the upper limit under the current mode of operations, but I just don’t see any way that we could even make application to you to change any of the original terms that we had. So we will continue to abide by the limitations that we agreed to then. MR. HUNSINGER-Okay. MR. VALENTINE-Could I come back to building size with you again? You had said 50,000, and you’re at 52,000 and at some point you would probably occupy all of that 52,000. Would you want to be there expanding on that 52, would you go beyond that yourself? MR. SIPLON-Right now as I said the pro-forma platform for the business is supported by 50,000 square feet. We could put as many as four production lines and support the raw materials and finished goods that came out of a 24/7 operation with four of those lines in this facility. I don’t have any line of sight to something that would be larger than that. If the business were to expand bigger than that we would need not only more physical space to produce it, we would definitely be in the mode of trying to figure out how to get more water off the hill. So right now I’m just trying to figure out how can we make provision to meet our current business objectives and not anything beyond that. MR. DEEB-So you’re going to use it mostly for warehouse now. 22 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) MR. SIPLON-Yes. MR. DEEB-And at some time you’re going to have to expand operations. Will you move the plant over there at some point in the future? MR. SIPLON-It’s important for me to say that I’m not doing anything until the State agrees. So right now I have a State approved production facility in Glens Falls and that’s my production facility until I’m allowed to say differently. We would certainly plan on making application to them about consolidating these operations. I don’t know how long that would take. It could takes weeks, months or years. MR. DEEB-So will you use the current building as any warehousing at all? MR. SIPLON-We will use the current building until I can consolidate operations in the other building, but I need to be clear. I don’t ever want to make any assumptions about what the State will or won’t do. MR. DEEB-Sure. MR. SIPLON-They don’t like it when I assume that they’re going to be okay with anything. MR. HUNSINGER-Any other questions or comments from the Board? MR. DEEB-It’s always been a clean operation. MR. HUNSINGER-We do have a public hearing scheduled this evening. Is there anyone in the audience that wishes to address the Board? We have one person. We record the meeting and the recording is posted on the Town’s website for anyone to listen to it. We also use the recording to transcribe the minutes. PUBLIC HEARING OPENED BRIAN ROZELL MR. ROZELL-I’ll be brief. My name is Brian Rozell. I’m President of Rozell Industries and a Queensbury resident and I basically just want to say that we have dealt with Just since they’ve come into Town and every night when I go to bed I pray about dealing with companies like these guys. They are amazing. They’re the most honest, I mean these guys are 110% to deal with. We work in pretty much every industry, you name it, in this area. We have about 250 to 300 employees depending on the time of year and, you know, these guys are just amazing and being a taxpayer, you know, living in Queensbury, I am like so excited they’re coming to Queensbury and I always felt really bad about how things went in the beginning. There was kind of like a little bit of a hard time it seemed like, but, you know, in just dealing with these guys this is what we need in this area, you know, good jobs, a great company to deal with. I just wanted to throw my two cents in on that. Okay? Thank you. MR. HUNSINGER-Anyone else? Any written comments, Laura? MRS. MOORE-There’s no written comments. MR. HUNSINGER-Do you want to come back to the table. We will close the public hearing. PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED MR. HUNSINGER-This is a Type II SEQR so no SEQR review is necessary. Are there any other questions, comments from the Board? 23 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) MR. DEEB-I just wanted to say also that we went through a pretty rough process approval period the first time around and it’s nice to see the way things worked out that you’re back here and we didn’t have any problems this time, which mean people do appreciate the way you run your business and I think it’s good to have that kind of business in our community. MR. HUNSINGER-Anyone else? Do you have a motion? MR. DEEB-Yes, I do. RESOLUTION APPROVING SP # 12-2019 JUST GOODS, INC. The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board for Site Plan approval pursuant to Article 9 of the Town zoning Ordinance for: Applicant proposes to lease a 52,000 sq. ft. building on an existing site that has two other buildings. The two smaller buildings are leased by other tenants. The applicant will be leasing only a portion of the 52,000 sq. ft. building at this time. The lease of the remaining space will occur at the end of December 2019. No site work is proposed as all alterations are interior. Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040 of the Zoning Ordinance new use of existing commercial building shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval. Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-080, the Planning Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code; As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to the Warren County Planning Department for its recommendation; The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 03/26/2019 and continued the public hearing to 03/26/2019, when it was closed, The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all comments made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 03/26/2019; The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval, MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN 12-2019 JUST GOODS, INC., Introduced by David Deeb who moved for its adoption; Per the draft provided by staff conditioned upon the following conditions: 1) Waivers request granted: g. site lighting, h. signage, j. stormwater, k. topography, l. landscaping, n traffic, o. commercial alterations/ construction details, p floor plans, q. soil logs, r. construction/demolition disposal s. snow removal. 2) Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution. a) If application was referred to engineering, then engineering sign-off required prior to signature of Zoning Administrator of the approved plans; b) Final approved plans should have dimensions and setbacks noted on the site plan/survey, floor plans and elevation for the existing rooms and proposed rooms in the building and site improvements, c) Final approved plans, in compliance with the Site Plan, must be submitted to the Community Development Department before any further review by the Zoning Administrator or Building and Codes personnel; 24 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) d) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of Building Permit and/or the beginning of any site work; e) Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on compliance with this and all other conditions of this resolution; f) As-built plans to certify that the site plan is developed according to the approved plans to be provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy; g) Resolution to be placed on final plans in its entirety and legible. Motion seconded by Jaime White. Duly adopted this 26th day of March, 2019 by the following vote: AYES: Ms. White, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Deeb, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Valentine, Mr. Dixon, Mr. Hunsinger NOES: NONE MR. HUNSINGER-You’re all set. Good luck. MR. SIPLON-Thank you very much. It was wonderful to see you all again. MR. TRAVER-Next on the agenda we have a discussion item, Alex and Michelle Wilcox, Discussion Item 1-2019. DISCUSSION ITEM: DISCUSSION 1-2019 SEQR TYPE: TYPE II. ALEX & MICHELLE WILCOX. OWNER(S): THOMAS DUBOIS. ZONING: RR-3A. LOCATION: CORNER WALKUP RD. & MOON HILL RD. APPLICANT PROPOSES CONSTRUCTION OF A 2,840 SQ. FT. SINGLE- FAMILY HOME AT CORNER OF WALKUP RD. & MOON HILL RD. THIS IS A 1.93 ACRE LOT ZONED RR-3A. THE PROJECT PROPOSED WILL HAVE DRIVEWAY ACCESS OFF OF MOON HILL ROAD DUE TO THE SLOPES ON THE SITE. THE PROJECT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN AND VARIANCE RELIEF DUE TO THE SLOPES AND ZONING REQUIREMENTS. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-9-040 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, DISCUSSION WITH THE PLANNING BOARD MAY BE REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT. CROSS REFERENCE AV 32-2018 (VOIDED). WARREN CO. REFERRAL: N/A. LOT SIZE: 1.93 ACRES. TAX MAP NO. 278.20-1-3. SECTION: 179-9-040. ALEX & MICHELLE WILCOX, PRESENT MRS. MOORE-So this applicant proposes construction of a 2,840 square foot single family home. This lot is on the corner of Walkup Road and Moon Hill Road. It’s 1.93 acres in an RR-3A zone. So I’ve identified some Code sections of the Rural Residential zoning district and some design requirements. The applicant has proposed to meet those. Really the issue is that this lot is not three acres. There’s some topography issues so they’ll be needing some variance specifically for the setback but Site Plan because of the topography issues within 15% slopes. So the applicant just wanted to get some feedback from your perspective to evaluate the property. MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. Good evening. MR. WILCOX-Good evening. MR. TRAVER-Tell us about your project. MR. WILCOX-Yes. So the property that we’re looking at is on the corner of Walkup and Moon Hill. 25 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) MRS. MOORE-Alex, can you just say your name for the record> MR. WILCOX-Yes. Alex Wilcox and this is my wife Michelle Wilcox. So there’s a lot of different things going on with this lot. Way back in 1992 this property was purchased by Thomas and Ellen Dubois and it was part of a larger subdivision at that time. So way back when it was an approved building lot, and now it is still an approved building lot, but you can see, I mean not on these but other ones that we’ve submitted before, there’s basically a 100 foot setback from all sides. I mean it only leaves like a 20 foot wide strip down the middle, but basically we’ve designed our house to be no larger really than the neighboring houses on that street, kind of fitting the community, looking aesthetically similar. Not a super small house or a really extravagantly large home, but we want to access the property from Moon Hill because it’s on top of the property and it’s a property that slopes just basically one direction, you know, pretty steep. We have a topographically survey completed, and a stormwater management survey completed, both by C.T. Male and we’ve already applied for Area Variance and the zoning and everything. So basically we kind of just wanted to come and see if you guys had any thoughts on us accessing, you know, kind of all the homes on that road would access from Moon Hill around that turn and we did kind of like a U crescent driveway. So as far as safety, we talked with C.T. Male on that, aligned the site, just kind of when you come down the hill you can pull in, and then you would exit and then go down to the bottom of the hill and turn on Walkup, but you would never really access that. Like if you were coming from Glen Lake Road I guess you could, but just safety wise, just to get to the top of the hill, because you wouldn’t want to put the house at the bottom. It’s just not really like way, way at the bottom there, there’s kind of nothing but wetland but kind of at the very, very bottom. That’s like 600 feet down. So really other than that, basically we have a pretty extensive stormwater plan to mediate the flow of water because there’s some spots on the property that are over the 15% and in the end with the grading there really won’t be any spots with 15% grading anymore because they’re just distributing the area around. Other than that I’m just kind of seeing what your thoughts are on that. It’s just obviously a discussion. MR. TRAVER-Sure. MR. HUNSINGER-So I’m pretty familiar with the site because I live around the corner. I just always assumed that if somebody was to build a house on that property they would access it from Walkup Road. So could you talk us through? I mean I understand what you were saying about there’s other houses on the curve, on Moon Hill. MR. WILCOX-Just basically I’m a contractor and I’ve always seen like with, you know, you can design it in a way where your house would be at the bottom of the hill, but basically being on top of that hill you can really get that flow of water just, you know, all, trap from on top and then get it distributed behind you. I feel like with that large of a hill, especially if you walk the property. I mean it’s like quite the flow of water that would be coming down that hill, and I feel like, as far as saturation of the ground, it’s very permeable soil, but it would just be, it would be quite a struggle I think with driveway and base and everything accessing from that point on just a usable part of the property. So if we put our house on top of the hill in the middle part of the, it’s hard to see on this little guy but basically right in the middle is where there’s kind of a spot that kind of flattens out. So there’d be like a light backyard and then kind of the rest of that would maintain a wooded area. So like basically encapsulating the whole property it would maintain kind of the look it has now with our house just set into it, and if we accessed it from Walkup Road I feel like it would be kind of like more visible and more trees being cut down in the sense of, and it’s a little thinner. The tree line is a lot thinner down there because it would kind of stick out. So I feel like sitting on top of the hill like that would kind of fit the community. It’s similar to the house next door and also my concern of the flow of water just being on top and letting everything kind of run down. I believe with the stormwater management plan we’ve been in lots of talks 26 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) with C.T. Male to kind of design a system that would negate the flow of water and contain all the water on the site. MR. VALENTINE-Have you checked, my thought was the same as Chris in the first one as I looked at that northeast corner of the property as being the likeliest place and least expensive to site a house, but have you looked at that area in there? Is it wet? It doesn’t show from the topo that there’s any drainage pattern. MR. WILCOX-Down on the lower end at the Walkup side? When we walked the site, especially like right past that like extreme apex corner from there, that starts the, it’s not on our property, the stream that runs underneath Walkup, but basically right at that point is the stream and that whole area as you can see, as those lines separate in much depth it’s pretty flat there. I mean there’s like a four foot drop into the stream but it’s very low- lying, and also just in that sense, if that stream was, you know I don’t really know that area very well, but if that stream was to ever flood then you’re kind of putting your house in more of a flood zone than being up on top of the hill, but, yes, and as far as I can see there. I mean it was maybe a little wetter when we walked, but again just because you’re at the bottom of a hill. MR. VALENTINE-When you worked with C.T. Male, you have two curb cuts here, and you’re in a horizontal curve and you’re also in a vertical curve with two points of access. Did they talk about what would be required for sight distances? I mean you’ve got a stopping sight distance and an intersection sight distance to deal with. MR. WILCOX-Yes, they didn’t voice anything with that. They, I mean I’ve talked to the County, because that’s a County road on the curb cut and I called them up and they basically voiced to me with approval from you, then they would come out to the site and kind of assess where the curb cut location would need to be, but, yes, C.T. Male didn’t, as far as like you said line of sight, they really didn’t bring up anything like that. They did say that doing this type of driveway would, you know, be a lot safer, especially on the curve like that. They didn’t really, I mean they were the ones who did the boundary and topography survey and that. So they definitely were in that area. Everything was all staked out in detail. MR. SHAFER-The way it’s drawn it sort of implies a one way in/one way out. Is that what you had in mind? MR. WILCOX-Yes. Basically kind of a one way in/one way out coming from, like I said it would be a very rare occurrence, especially for safety, that we would use like if we were on Glen Lake coming back down to the extension of Moon Hill to access from there, just because you’d be cutting across, but it’s only, not even a minute to go up and then kind of come around there. When you go around that curve, tree line wise, it really widens at that point of the road and, you know, especially with the driveway there, the house next door, it’s kind of just barely on this drawing. They actually have almost like a pull off site, it’s like a strip that kind of widens the road at that section. I don’t know if that was something that when they built their house, I think it was 2002, if that was something that you guys recommended or what not but there’s, just kind of siting that. MR. HUNSINGER-So what’s the elevation drop from the eastern most entrance down to say your garage floor? MR. WILCOX-There’s not a lot. These are the plans that I submitted for just a discussion. I’ll have the actual like stormwater management in more detail on the site plan, but basically even most of that driveway is not flowing towards like Moon Hill. Like everything is contained, because we just wanted to make like a fish bowl. There’s some water that’ll drain into the center of the crescent, but there’s really not a whole lot of pitch there. It’s pretty flat there because again we were talking with Laura about, you know, you don’t want to have 27 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) a driveway that has more than a 10% grade, things like that, because the neighbor’s house you have to kind of drive really steep right down in, and I’m sure they’re right there on the line. So that’s what we really didn’t want was something like that. We kind of wanted a nice flat line area kind of going down, plateauing to a mid-section and that would kind of be the backyard. MR. HUNSINGER-So just to go back to my question, is it 10 feet or less? MR. WILCOX-Yes, sorry. It definitely has to be like 10 feet or less. I mean I was talking with Jim from stormwater management and he said it was not his exact words difficult, but he said it was, to try and pitch that water down the hill with accessing, because as you can see when you go down Moon Hill there’s like a curve. So placing those two driveways, you know, in a way where everything pitches, it’s very minimal. I think you’re right, 10 feet or less. MR. VALENTINE-Because your driveway entrance there is about 423 and in the middle, the line going into the middle of the garage is at 410, but you’re going to have, you’re designing this as a walkout. MR. WILCOX-Yes. MR. VALENTINE-So your foundation’s going to be up higher than that 410. So you probably want to say 416 or something. So you’ve only got about seven or eight feet. MR. WILCOX-Yes. We imagine like basically the garage would be at that driveway ground level obviously and then the house would be out of the ground by about 24 to 30 inches or so, the foundation would probably be sitting out. MR. TRAVER-Do you have any questions for us? MR. WILCOX-Basically I mean we were planning on, this is the one area where we’re still trying to find access. We want to cut down as few trees as possible is the big thing. So we have estimated, in one of our packets we submitted I think it was no more than three quarters of an acre, but that was just to kind of cover our bases on that, but it will be very minimal, you know, when we’re there, any dead trees and things like that, but we want to maintain as much of a natural environment as possible. MR. TRAVER-Yes, well on your site plan you put in the clearing limits on the plans. MR. WILCOX-We did, yes, but not necessarily like that whole thing is going to be clear cut. Just saying that would be kind of where that is. MR. TRAVER-It’s a beautiful area. MR. WILCOX-It is very nice. I grew up in Lake George and we want to build a house and start a family. MR. TRAVER-All right. Anything else from members of the Board? It’s primarily a zoning issue, really, at this stage, right, and the variances and so on. MRS. MOORE-Right. MR. TRAVER-Yes. I think as far as site plan is concerned, you heard some questions but it’s obvious that you put quite a bit of work into the design and in many ways it’s a unique site. So it’s all in the adaptations that you make and it sounds like you’ve thought thoroughly about all of those types of issues. 28 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) MR. WILCOX-Yes, it’s definitely a tricky lot, but we want to take on the challenge and do it the right way. MS. WHITE-You said you are a contractor, you’re a designer? MR. WILCOX-Yes. MS. WHITE-Okay. MR. MAGOWAN-A few sleepless nights on this, right. TOM DUBOIS MR. DUBOIS-Hello, I’m the current property owner, Tom Dubois. I know this isn’t technically a public hearing. MR. TRAVER-Yes there is no public hearing. MR. DUBOIS-But I wondered if I would have an opportunity to speak for a moment in support of their plans. MR. TRAVER-There is no public hearing for a discussion item, but at some point they’re likely to be on our agenda on a formal basis and then there will be all of that. MR. DUBOIS-Okay. Very good. Thank you. MS. WHITE-But we still heard your support. MR. TRAVER-All right. Well I guess that’s all we have then for tonight. Thank you and we’ll look forward to hearing more from you. MR. HUNSINGER-I guess for your benefit, I asked a lot of questions but I don’t have any objection to your using Moon Hill Road to Walkup Road that’s just what my thought process was. MR. VALENTINE-I don’t, either. I just wondered why you chose that rather than the lesser expense. MR. WILCOX-Basically for the fit of the community and also I like being on top of the hill not having that water flow and the potential for a flood. I don’t know how exacerbated that could be, especially in like a 25 year storm plan of where that could end up. MR. TRAVER-Yes. MRS. MOORE-Yes. MR. TRAVER-Very good. All right. Well thank you. MR. WILCOX-Thank you. MR. TRAVER-Do we have any other business before the Board this evening? MRS. MOORE-I would just like to remind the Board that as you mentioned in the beginning th that there’ll be, the beginning of the April 16 meeting, it starts at six. 29 (Queensbury Planning Board 03/26/2019) MR. TRAVER-It will begin at six for some training. MRS. MOORE-Yes. MS. WHITE-Give us a little e-mail. MRS. MOORE-Yes, you’ll get a notice. I’ll send you another notice but I wanted to remind you now. MR. TRAVER-I did actually write it down. th MRS. MOORE-It starts at six. April 16 starts at six. MR. TRAVER-And there are reports that we will have three meetings next month to deal thrdth with agenda items. So it will be on the 16, 23, and 30. rd MRS. MOORE-And on the 23 you’ll have Craig Brown. You won’t have me. I won’t be here then. MR. TRAVER-Vacation I hope? Good for you. All right. Well I want to thank Chris for covering the Just application for me and if there’s no other business this evening, then I’ll entertain a motion to adjourn. MOTION TO ADJOURN THE QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING OF MARCH h 26, 2019, Introduced David Deeb who moved for its adoption, seconded by Jamie White: th Duly adopted this 26 day of March, 2019, by the following vote: AYES: Mr. Shafer, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Deeb, Ms. White, Mr. Valentine, Mr. Traver NOES: NONE MR. TRAVER-We stand adjourned. Thanks, everybody. On motion meeting was adjourned. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED, Stephen Traver, Chairman 30