2002-06-10 SP
SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING
JUNE 10TH, 2002
MTG# 29
RES#255-257 7:00 P.M.
BOARD MEMBERS ABSENT
SUPERVISOR DENNIS BROWER COUNCILMAN ROGER BOOR COUNCILMAN THEODORE
TURNER COUNCILMAN TIM BREWER
BOARD MEMBERS ABSENT
COUNCILMAN DAN STEC
SUPERVISOR BROWER-Opened meeting.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY SUPERVISOR BROWER
OPEN SPACE PLAN - UPDATE-MARILYNRYBA, BARBARA SWEET & COMMITTEE
MEMBERS PRESENT
Marilyn Ryba gave presentation to board members. Noted they hired Behan Planning Associates in
October to assist with the planning process noted they coordinated the Open Space Design Workshop that
was held May 18th. In November 2001 held Day Long Tour of the Town noting it was well attended.
Held four Focus Group Sessions where they had representatives from many aspects of the community.
Invited over one hundred and fifty organizations and individuals for the Focus Group Sessions had over
ninety representatives attending. Will be using this information to put together Vision Map and Plan at the
next meeting will be discussing some scenarios as well as the Vision Map. Future goals are to complete
this plan have some kind of draft ready in August so we can at least target the North Queensbury
population with the summer residents before they leave for the season. Then in September, October hold
public informational meeting have a public hearing on the draft plan trying to get everything together by
November. Noted what they have heard from the public is yes, we do need a plan so that we can find out
what the priorities are for the community and from there we can get funding and continue. Barbara Sweet
spoke to the board noting that the public perception with the Open Space planning process is a positive and
delightful process for the Town of Queensbury. Noted what they hear from the public is that they care
about these things that Queensbury is a special place and want to keep Queensbury a special place and
there are tools and means to do this to still enable growth but at the same time still conserve some open
space for long term usage. On June 2nd, appeared on TV8 Chronicle Show noting received positive
feedback. Councilman Brewer questioned their budget for next year. Ms. Sweet, asked Behan Planning to
give an idea of what it would take, tax implication, what the scenarios are. Ms. Ryba noted one of the
things that came out during the Public Design Meeting each group was given a set of maps people were
asked to frame in draw in what's important in terms of habitats, recreation, hydrology, historic areas
noting the one thing that came up was the watershed lands thinks it is not going to be as difficult as to what
are the priorities of the community are. By preserving or conserving land there are a whole bundle of
rights associated with property ownership doesn't necessarily mean that it would be an all or nothing
proposition there are easements different things that can be done so you can still have certain activities on
land without saying you can't do anything doesn't think it's the purpose of this. To look at some
scenarios with Behan Planning and Staff noting a meeting is scheduled this month to try and come up with
a couple of parcels to give people an idea of the possibilities. Ms. Ryba noted the Queensbury Land
Conservancy is participating noting they have done a survey, sent out a press release noted that the Land
Conservancy is separate from the Open Space they are private non-profit. The next Open Space
Committee Meeting is June 27th, should have a draft of everything that is incorporated.
SMALL CITIES PROGRAM UPDATE - MARILYN RYBA, BOB MURRAY, SHELTER PLANNING
PRESENT
Marilyn Reba noted that Shelter Planning is doing the bulk of the work at this point getting applicants and
putting together the administrative aspects gave board members copy of Implementation Plan to have
resolution regarding Implementation Plan for June 17th, meeting. It is recommended by the State to do it,
it is not a major requirement to adopt it, but thinks its worthwhile adopting. It outlines who's involved the
task and responsibilities the program guidelines, priorities when looking at a house to improve. Mr.
Murray updated board noted these are guidelines and are necessary when you are running something as
complicated as this to have some set of guidelines in place. They have moved well beyond the stage of
guidelines are now into the implementation stage. Had initially identified nineteen single-family
property owners that appeared to be eligible and expressed some interest in participating in the program
these are the people that they are targeting first. Had some help in the outreach efforts have eleven active
applications that have been determined eligible and one they are looking at. That eligibility process is the
first by that stage and then to inspect the properties set up appointments for inspections noting they have
completed six inspections for six properties have six properties that have lead base paint have hired a
consultant out of Albany to do a lead base paint evaluation have those reports done. The next step is to be
able to take the ones that they have specifications on and go out to bid. Have been working with the Town
on developing a contractor's list. If you don't have any lead base paint involved we can go to bid we're in
the position where we can to that on three on them if we can resolve some building code issues. The other
three will go to bid on, the contractor has to be certified to be able to deal with lead base paint. At the
point now where they are ready to go to bid this week will be working on the ones that don't have any lead
base paint involved and then move to get prices to do the ones that they have inspections reports on noting
they are not as far along as they would like to be. Anticipate to continue inspections in August would hope
to have a good menu of these projects completed this year. Ms. Ryba noted she receives three phone calls
at least per week in terms of first term homebuyers program noting Glens Falls has one Queensbury is just
getting started with this type of program. Mr. Murray, wants to review the housing opportunities and
choices and how the programs fit with needs as they go on. At the stage in the year where there is time
noting most of grant applications scheduling and timing start in January have between now and January to
talk about this to see if you want to try and put together another rehab program in different areas thinks
they will be able to do this. Councilman Brewer noted he thought when they received the grant they had to
have experience with this grant before they could apply for another one? Ms. Ryba, will have about a
year before any other grants go through doesn't think the State has made a firm policy on this yet.
Councilman Brewer would like to see this go on until they are done thinks it is an important tool in the
Town. Mr. Murray looking forward to continuing this hoping this one is a success then will look to other
ones in the future.
GLEN LAKE DREDGING/BATHOMETRIC SURVEY - DAVE WICK WARREN COUNTY SOIL
AND WATER SARA FRANKENFELD, GIS COORDINATOR, WARREN COUNTY PLANNING
Mr. Wick, noted three weeks ago met and spoke to board regarding this project since this time they have
done a Bathometric Survey which is a topographic survey of the bottom of the lake to figure out what was
the water depth and how far up and down the northern tip of Glen Lake the water depth was boat
restricted and where would the hard bottom be if there was a hard bottom for that portion of the lake. Over
a period of two days went out and took a much more affective survey which consisted of taking a
positioning system unit and demarcating where we were geographically and then taking a survey rod with
a Frisbee tacked onto the bottom so we could set it down on top of the soft muck to give us a feel for what
the actual water depth was took a twenty foot medal rod and jammed it down until they felt it hit
something hard. After information was complied contacted Sara Frankenfeld from County Planning took
information and was able to generate these maps (presented to board) noted most of the impact was on the
shoreline. From that information three bathometric maps were developed Ms. Frankenfeld explained how
the maps were generated. Noted they created an excavation line at five foot of depth all the way out the
top of the muck out in the middle of the lake its five feet extended the line out to the property lines it
would give an availability of getting a quantity then they can attach a price tag to this and time frame. In
doing this they created a proposed project (presented to board). The five contour was put in there for a
reason we know we cannot dredge everything out down here if we take another foot out ultimately this is
going to splay back out then you just lost all your benefits if we go down to five feet of water depth around
the shoreline area that represents the northern tip of the lakes existing bottom. If you are looking for a
solution that's not going to fill back in the five-foot depth is probably where you want to do. The next step
in the process was to generate a calculation a volume off of that. Took two an a half feet off from the top
of the table to about this depth taking it a hundred and thirty feet out then in the rim around the lake to do
this would generate five hundred and twenty thousand cubic feet of material that would have to come out
based on this scenario right here noting this is something the Town Board would have to agree on. Spoke
to the board regarding ways to do the project the most cost effective would be hydraulic dredging
explained process to board members noting cost of the project would be based on time frame. After
further discussion board ask for cost of project Mr. Wick to report back to board.
TOWN SAFETY POLICY AND SAFETY OFFICER APPOINTMENT
Supervisor Brower noted previous discussion was held concerning the policy and appointment of Steve
Smith as Safety Officer noted the board wanted one word eliminated and changed. Spoke to people on the
Safety Committee noting meeting was held today it was noted they wanted some policy changes. They
want to have a Chair and Co-Chair plus the Safety Officer being the three people involved in process. I
recommended to them to have a meeting, clarify what they'd like to see, present revised copy to me and
I'll distribute copies to you for your comments. . ..
RESOLUTION CALLING FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION
RESOLUTION NO.: 255, 2002
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Roger Boor WHO MOVED IT'S ADOPTION
SECONED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns Regular Session
to enter Executive Session to conduct Zoning Board of Appeals Alternate Interviews.
Duly adopted this 10th day of June, 2002, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Brower, Mr. Boor, Mr. Turner, Mr. Brewer
NOES: None
ABSENT:
Mr. Stec
RESOLUTION TO ADJOURN EXECUTIVE SESSION
RESOLUTION NO.: 256, 2002
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Roger Boor WHO MOVED IT'S ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from Executive
Session and enter Regular Session.
Duly adopted this 10th day of June, 2002, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Boor, Mr. Turner, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Brower
NOES: None
ABSENT:
Mr. Stec
EMPIRE ZONE - THE GREAT ESCAPE
Town Board held discussion regarding whether the Great Escape Family Fun Park meets the criteria of the
Empire Zone requirements... No decision made, board would like to discuss further and review the
plan/map of all proposed sites being considered for designation of the Empire Zone. . . Board agreed to
meet at 6:30 p.rn., prior to the Regular Town Board Meeting of June 17th, 2002.
Councilman Brewer noted that he's going to have Town Counsel prepare a resolution for the 17th
regarding the contract with Feeder Canal Alliance and the Town of Queensbury for the development of the
Hudson River Overlook Park project. (Feeder Canal Dam site)
RESOLUTION ADJOURNING MEETING
RESOLUTION NO.: 257, 2002
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer WHO MOVED IT'S ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns their Special
Town Board Meeting.
Duly adopted this 10th day of June, 2002, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Turner, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Brower, Mr. Boor
NOES: None
ABSENT:
Mr. Stec
No further action taken.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED, DARLEEN M. DOUGHER TOWN CLERK TOWN OF
QUEENSBURY