1993-10-18
REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING
OCTOBER 18, 1993
7:02 P.M.
MTG#72
RES#574-604
BH#39-41
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT
Supervisor Michel Brandt
Councilman Pliney Tucker
Councilman Nick Caimano
Councilman Susan Goetz
Councilman Betty Monahan
TOWN OFFICIALS
Jim Martin, Dave Hatin
PRESS
Post Star, Moreau Sun
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCILMAN MONAHAN
PUBLIC HEARINGS
MOBILE HOME PERMIT - DOUGLAS E. COONS
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED 7:03 P.M.
NOTICE SHOWN
Supervisor Brandt-I'm going to open the public hearing at this time. Is there anyone that would like to
come and speak on that application? Okay, then I'm going to close the public hearing on that matter.
Would the Board like to address that?
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING REVOCABLE PERMIT
TO LOCATE ONE MOBILE HOME OUTSIDE OF MOBILE HOME COURT FOR
DOUGLAS E. COONS
RESOLUTION NO.: 574,93
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is authorized pursuant to ~113-12 of the
Code of the Town of Queensbury to issue permits for mobile homes to be located outside of mobile home
courts under certain circumstances, and
WHEREAS, Mr. Douglas E. Coons has filed an application for a mobile home outside a mobile
home court, revocable permit in accordance with said ~113 of the Code of the Town of Queensbury to
locate a mobile home on property situated at Moon Hill Road, Queensbury, New York, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury held a public hearing with regard to the
aforesaid permit,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby determines that a hardship
or special circumstances have been sufficiently proved for the following reasons:
Financial burden as far as the conventional home, to place a brand new double wide, to be erected on the
site it has had the Zoning Board Approval.
Noted Mobile Home had been on site, grandfather clause came into effect.
Other mobile homes in the area so it is consistent with the neighborhood.
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby determines that the
application complies with ~113 of the Code of the Town of Queensbury and authorizes the issuance of a
revocable permit in accordance with the terms and provisions of ~113-12 of the Code of the Town of
Queensbury.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Caimano, Mr. Tucker, Mr.
Brandt
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
DISCUSSION HELD BEFORE VOTE
Councilman Monahan-Noted the mistake in the heading of the resolution that it stated two mobile homes,
should be one mobile home.
Attorney Dusek-Noted the Board should indicate the reasons for granting the permit.
Councilman Monahan-Asked Mr. and Mrs. Coons to restate their reasons.
Mrs. Coons-Financial burden as far as the conventional home will be a brand new doublewide to be erected
on this site. It has passed Zoning Board approval.
Attorney Dusek-Questioned if there has been a mobile home located on the site in the past?
Mrs. Coons-There was a grandfather clause.
Councilman Monahan-Noted there are other mobile homes in the area and is consistent with the
neighborhood.
Attorney Dusek-Noted these reasons should go into the resolution.
PUBLIC HEARING
PROPOSED ADOPTION CENTRAL QUEENSBURY QUAKER ROAD SEWER DISTRICT BENEFIT
TAX ROLL
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED 7:05 P.M.
NOTICE SHOWN
Supervisor Brandt-I'm going to declare the public hearing opened. Do you want to lead it off and we'll
open it for comments and questions.
Mike Shaw, Director of Wastewater-Sure I can briefly go over the changes in the 94 roll compared to 93.
Basically all the updates were changed as far as name changes, address, tax map numbers, and acreage
were updated. Commercial water usage was updated that's based on prior year water usage. On the point
menu there was one change. Last year on the commercial water usage we had three points for every two
hundred forty gallons of water usage. This year we've change that and adjusted to one and a half points per
one hundred twenty gallons of water usage. Basically what this does is it lowers the base rate for
commercial properties using less than the eighty four thousand gallons a year other than that it's basically
the same.
Supervisor Brandt-Okay. Is there anybody that would like to speak to us on this question, tonight?
Councilman Monahan-Mike how many parcels are there involved in the sewer tax?
Mr. Shaw-Off the top of my head I would say seven hundred eight four. I could be wrong a little bit one
way or the other.
Councilman Monahan-Mike I've gotten some calls from people. It was something that we discussed a long
time ago and I don't know what we ever did about it. That is when they were watering their lawns it
through it way out when you do it by prior year use even though now they've got dedicated meters. Some
people until they get trapped by this don't know there is such a thing as dedicated water meters. Is there
some way by using other quarters or something that aren't during the summer time when they are watering
their lawns that we could make some adjustments for things like that?
Mr. Shaw-Basically we have the dedicated water meters.
Councilman Monahan-A lot of people like I've said have not known about that. Then they are caught when
they get this horrible sewer bill and then they find out about them it's to late because it's based on prior year
water usage.
Mr. Shaw-The only problem in using other quarters I see other than summer quarters if your worried about
outside water usages. If it's a business the business may go up and down as the season changes.
Councilman Monahan-I'm thinking of a homeowner really.
Mr. Shaw-A homeowner you have different things happen as a homeowner. Sometimes they aren't home
during the summer they have summer camps or something. Sometimes in the winter they have more
people home at the house or maybe less maybe some of the kids are off to college.
Councilman Monahan-It seems to be sprinkling their lawns and gardens that are throwing this out before
they know about dedicated water meters.
Mr. Shaw-Anybody residentially wise what we've done with this roll and we did it last year we did away
with water usage for all residents. We don't use water usage as a determining factor for residents we only
use acreage.
Councilman Monahan-Any residences do not have to be concerned about the water consumption. In other
words you don't really need a dedicated water meter then.
Mr. Shaw-They do for the 0 & M charge Betty that comes quarterly. For the Benefit Tax Roll which is
billed January 1st, on the County Tax Roll they won't see any affect at all because that's not in the
calculations. Commercial wise as far as I know most commercial people have come forth they have
installed their dedicated meters and are working properly.
Councilman Monahan-But, as I said your a year behind time and if you don't know to do that.
Mr. Shaw-We're basing on a known fact that's why we use prior year water usage. If you start guessing
then it creates a lot of other problems.
Councilman Monahan-We're doing an unnecessary burden on some people because of this way cause it's
never gone through the sewers.
Mr. Shaw-=Right.
Councilman Caimano- When does this take effect?
Mr. Shaw-Pardon me?
Councilman Caimano-What bill does this take effect with?
Mr. Shaw-January 1, 1994. It will be on the County Tax Roll.
Councilman Monahan-I would want to make a suggestion for any other years when we change these sewer
taxes, that is that we do the same thing when we have a big change in land taxes, that a notice go out to
people ahead of time of these public hearings saying, this is what you paid, this is what the impact of the
new study. That's why I asked you the number of parcels. That really wouldn't be a terrific burden on that
sewer district to mail out that many notices.
Mr. Shaw-In the past especially when we changed from the previous sewer rent to benefit tax roll we did
several mailings.
Councilman Monahan-But, every time we changed the method of calculating the tax.
Mr. Shaw-I did not do that this year.
Councilman Monahan-We are making a major impact on some people. Yes, we have the public hearings
and so on and so forth, but I think in all fairness I would suggest in future years when we change a formula
that they be notified before a public hearing what the impact is going to be on them if that's adopted.
Mr. Shaw-Sure we can do that.
Councilman Monahan-Thank you.
Supervisor Brandt-Is there any other input on this propose sewer tax? I'm going to close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED 7:15 P.M.
At a Meeting of the Town Board of the Town of
Queensbury, held at the Queensbury Activities
Road, Queens-bury, New York,
Center, 531 Bay
on the 18th day of October, 1993.
RES. 575.93
PRESENT: Supervisor Michel Brandt
Councilman Betty Monahan
Councilman Susan Goetz
Councilman Nick Caimano
Councilman Pliney Tucker
ABSENT: None
IN THE MATTER OF THE ASSESSMENT ROLL OF THE
CENTRAL QUEENSBURY QUAKER ROAD SEWER DISTRICT
THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY, COUNTY OF WARREN, AND STATE OF NEW YORK
WHEREAS, a benefit assessment roll assessing the expense of improvements pursuant to Section
202 of the Town Law has been prepared by this Town Board for and in consideration of certain district
improvements consisting of general sanitary sewers in the Central Queensbury Quaker Road Sewer District
of the said Town of Queensbury, which said roll has been heretofore completed and filed in the Office of
the Town Clerk; and
WHEREAS, due notice of the completion of said benefit assessment roll and the time and place
where this Board would meet to hear and consider any objections that might be made to said roll, and for
adopting the same, was duly given by the Town Clerk by a publication of due notice thereof in the Post-
Star; and
WHEREAS, the Town Board met at the time and place specified and a hearing was duly had upon
said benefit assessment roll and all persons desiring to be heard having been heard;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the benefit assessment roll of the Central Queensbury Quaker Road Sewer
District for the payment of the expense of public improvements within said Central Queensbury Quaker
Road Sewer District, pursuant to Section 202 of the Town Law of the State of New York be and it is hereby
approved, confirmed, and adopted, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Clerk is instructed to annex to said benefit assessment roll a warrant
which shall be signed by the Supervisor and countersigned by the Town Clerk commanding the Receiver of
Taxes collect from the several persons named in said assessment roll the sum or sums opposite their
respective names and to pay the same to the said Supervisor of the Town.
The foregoing resolution was offered by Councilperson Mr. Nick Caimano and seconded by
Supervisor Michel Brandt and adopted by the following vote:
AYES Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Caimano, Mr. Tucker, Mrs. Monahan, Mr.
Brandt
NOES None
ABSENT: None
DATED: October 18, 1993
RESOLUTION ENTERING QUEENSBURY BOARD OF HEALTH
RESOLUTION NO. 576, 93
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Pliney Tucker
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from Regular Session and
moves into the Queensbury Board of Health.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Caimano, Mr. Tucker, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Goetz, Mr.
Brandt
Noes: None
Absent:None
PUBLIC HEARINGS - BOARD OF HEALTH
MR. PETER JOHNSON - SEWER VARIANCE
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
NOTICE SHOWN
Jim Hutchins representing Mr. Johnson
Supervisor Brandt-I'll declare the public hearing opened. Are there any questions from anyone from the
Board to start with? Do you want to give us a brief overview for the public.
Mr. Jim Hutchins-Basically this is a request for a permit for an individual household wastewater system for
replacement. The lot is located in Cleverdale has lake frontage. There is approximately 206 feet deep on
one side, 230 feet deep on the other side. We are asking for a setback variance from Lake George not the
Queensbury standards, but the Lake George Park Commission standards which require a 200 foot setback.
What we are asking for is a setback of 162 feet. The soils are basically granular and any questions beyond
that I can go deeper.
Councilman Caimano-I recall these are high perc soils that you are going to mix?
Mr. Hutchins-These are not high perc soils. I've got a percolation rate of 18 or 19 minutes. They were
granular, but the perc rates kind of fooled me a little bit I would expected something quicker.
Councilman Monahan-So stabilize rate...
Mr. Hutchins-Nineteen minutes was the stabilized rate which surprised me a little bit.
Councilman Caimano- When was the test taken what time of the year?
Mr. Hutchins-It was in the summer.
Supervisor Brandt-Are there any questions or comments from the public on this application?
NO PUBLIC COMMENT
Supervisor Brandt-It's a public hearing on a request for a variance and it's your chance to speak up on it. If
there is no comment then I will close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
RESOLUTION APPROVING A SANITARY SEW AGE DISPOSAL VARIANCE
FOR MR. PETER JOHNSON
RESOLUTION NO.: 39,93
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHEREAS, Mr. Peter Johnson previously filed a request for a variance from certain standards of
the Lake George Waste Water Manual, such standards being more specifically that requiring that there be a
200 foot separation between an absorption field and the Lake George Shoreline, and
WHEREAS, a notice of public hearing was given in the official newspaper of the Town of
Queensbury and a public hearing was held in connection with the variance request on October 18, 1993,
and
WHEREAS, the Town Clerk advises that property owners within 500 feet of the subject property
have been duly notified,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED,
a) that due to the nature of the variance, it is felt that the variation will not be materially
detrimental to the purposes and objectives of the Lake George Waste Water Manual or to other adjoining
properties or otherwise conflict with the purpose and objectives of any plan or policy of the Town of
Queensbury;
b) that the Local Board of Health finds that the granting of the variance is necessary for the
reasonable use of
the land and that the variance is granted as the minimum variance which would alleviate
the specific unnecessary hardship found by the Local Board of Health to affect the applicant; and
c) that the Local Board of Health imposes a condition upon the applicant that he must also
secure the approval of the New York State Department of Health, and
d) that the Local Board of Health imposes a condition that there will be 3 gpm (gallons per
minute) faucets and showerheads and water saving toilets of 1.6 gallons.
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town of Queensbury Local Board of Health grants the variance to Mr. Peter
Johnson allowing the placement of the absorption field 162 feet from the Lake George Shoreline, rather
than placing it at the mandated 200 foot distance, on property situated on Cleverdale Road, Queensbury,
New York, and bearing Tax Map #: Section 13, Block 3, Lot 24.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Tucker, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Caimano, Mr.
Brandt
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
DISCUSSION HELD BEFORE VOTE
Councilman Monahan-Recommended to add in the resolution
.3 gpm faucets and showerheads and water saving toilets of 1.6 gallon.
Attorney Dusek-Recommended that it be added as a condition and to put it in as Clause D.
JAMIE HAYES C/O ADIRONDACK COFFEE SERVICE - SEWER VARIANCE
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
NOTICE SHOWN
Tom Nace representing Adirondack Coffee Service
Supervisor Brandt-I'm going to opened the public hearing.
Tom Nace-For the record my name is Tom Nace from Haanen Engineering representing Jamie Hayes.
Supervisor Brandt-Do you want to give us a brief overview of this application please?
Mr. Nace-Basically we're looking at commercial lot at the Corner of Luzerne Road and Western Avenue it
used to be a car dealership. Jamie Hayes, Adirondack Coffee would like to convert the building to use as a
specialty coffee shop. We've been through zoning variance and site plan review with the Town Boards and
this is our last stop shopping, I guess for a septic variance the problem it's a very tight site. We're putting in
a completely new septic system and because the constricted site we cannot meet the required 20 foot
setback from the building and the 10 foot setback from the property line. What we proposed is a 10 foot
setback from the building and a 5 foot setback from the property line fronting on Western Avenue. We feel
because the building does not have an occupied basement and because there will never be any adjacent
residence constructed on Western Avenue that these are reasonable requests.
Supervisor Brandt-It's a public hearing is there anybody that would like to make comment on this
application?
Councilman Monahan-Tom where is the closet sewer?
Mr. Nace- There is a sewer across the street in the plaza, but it's a private sewer and we cannot get into it
because of capacity problems and the shallowness of the sewer. We would have to go down on Corinth
Road pass the junction of Luzerne or just about at the junction of Luzerne. It would be prohibited to do it
for just this small project. We've talked to the City and we're not even sure that the capacity exists.
Supervisor Brandt-Any other comments or questions? I'll declare that public hearing closed then.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
DISCUSSION HELD
Councilman Monahan-Recommended that due to the tightness of the area that they require the 1.6 gallon
toilets and the .3 gpm faucets.
RESOLUTION APPROVING A SANITARY SEW AGE DISPOSAL VARIANCE
FOR JAMIE HAYES C/O ADIRONDACK COFFEE SERVICE, INC.
RESOLUTION NO.: 40, 93
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Michel Brandt
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHEREAS, Jamie Hayes c/o Adirondack Coffee Service, Inc., previously filed a request for two
(2) variances from certain provisions of the Town of Queensbury On-Site Sewage Disposal Ordinance,
such provisions being more specifically that requiring that there be a 20 foot separation between the
absorption field and the dwelling, and a 10 foot separation between the absorption field and the property
line, and
WHEREAS, a notice of public hearing was given in the official newspaper of the Town of
Queensbury and a public hearing was held in connection with the variance requests on October 18, 1993,
and
WHEREAS, the Town Clerk advises that property owners within 500 feet of the subject property
have been duly notified,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED,
a) that due to the nature of the variances, it is felt that the variations will not be materially
detrimental to the purposes and objectives of this Ordinance or to other adjoining properties or otherwise
conflict with the purpose and objectives of any plan or policy of the Town of Queensbury;
b) that the Local Board of Health finds that the granting of the variances is necessary for the
reasonable use of
the land and that the variances are granted as the minimum variances which would
alleviate the specific unnecessary hardship found by the Local Board of Health to affect the applicant; and
c) that the Local Board of Health imposes a condition upon the applicants that they must
also secure the approval of the New York State Department of Health, and
d) that the Local Board of Health imposes a condition that there will be 3 gpm (gallons per
minute) faucets and showerheads and water saving toilets of 1.6 gallons.
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town of Queensbury Local Board of Health grants the variances to Jamie
Hayes c/o Adirondack Coffee Service, Inc., allowing the placement of the absorption field:
1) 10' from the dwelling, rather than placing it at the mandated 20' distance; and
2) 5' from the property line, rather than placing it at the mandated 10' distance;
on property situated on 4. S. Western Avenue, Town of Queensbury, New York, and bearing Tax Map #:
Section 117, Block 11, Lot 4.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Caimano, Mr. Tucker, Mr.
Brandt
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION ADJOURNING BOARD OF HEALTH
RESOLUTION NO. 41, 93
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Michel Brandt
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from the Queensbury
Board of Health and moves back into Town Board of the Town of Queensbury.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Caimano, Mr. Tucker, Mrs. Monahan, Mr.
Brandt
Noes: None
Absent:None
PRESENTATION GLEN LAKE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION
MEMBERS PRESENT FROM GLEN LAKE ASSOCIATION AND RESIDENTS FROM GLEN LAKE
AREA - Michelle Mayer, Virginia Etu, Linda Daly, Chuck Odgen, Bob Sullivan, Tom Mayer, John Brown
PRESENTED BOARD MEMBERS WITH PACKET REGARDING INFORMATION GLEN LAKE-
EURASIAN MILFOIL
Spoke to the Town Board regarding the problem with Eurasian milfoil in Glen Lake. Asked the Town
Board for their support in studying the problem of Eurasian milfoil in Glen Lake. Supervisor Brandt noted
there were two steps. One to make a close analysis of what the problem is and then how to solve it. It was
the decision of the Town Board to review this proposal.
RESOLUTIONS
RESOLUTION APPROVING MINUTES
RESOLUTION NO. 577,93
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby approves the minutes of August
16th, 23rd, and September 13th, 1993.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Caimano, Mr. Tucker, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Goetz, Mr.
Brandt
Noes: None
Absent:None
RESOLUTION SETTING PUBLIC HEARING
ON PROPOSED LOCAL LAW NO. _, 1993
A LOCAL LAW TO AMEND THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
BY ADDING A NEW CHAPTER 127 TO BE ENTITLED,
"PUBLIC UTILITIES DEPARTMENT" WHICH CHAPTER SHALL PROVIDE
FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC UTILITIES
AND THE CONSOLIDATION OF CERTAIN OTHER TOWN DEPARTMENT
ACTIVITIES AS MORE SPECIFICALLY SET FORTH THEREIN.
RESOLUTION NO. 578, 93
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Michel Brandt
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Susan Goetz
WHEREAS, at this meeting there has been presented for adoption by the Town Board of the Town
of Queensbury, Local Law No. _, 1993, A Local Law to Amend the Code of the Town of Queensbury by
Adding a New Chapter 127 to be Entitled, "Public Utilities Department," which chapter shall provide for
the establishment of the Department of Public Utilities and the consolidation of certain other Town
department activities as more specifically set forth therein,
WHEREAS, such legislation is authorized pursuant to the Municipal Home Rule Law of the State
of New York, and
WHEREAS, prior to adoption of said Local Law, it is necessary to conduct a public hearing,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED AND ORDERED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury shall meet and
hold a public hearing at the Activities Center, 531 Bay Road, Queensbury, Warren County, New York, at
7:00 p.m., on the 1st day of November, 1993, to consider said Local Law No. _, 1993 and to hear all
persons interested on the subject matter thereof concerning the same to take such action thereon as is
required or authorized by law, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED AND ORDERED, that the Town Clerk of the Town of Queensbury is hereby
directed to publish and post the notice that has also been presented at this meeting concerning the proposed
Local Law No. _,1993 in the manner provided by law.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Tucker, Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Brandt
NOES: Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Caimano
ABSENT:None
DISCUSSION HELD BEFORE VOTE:
SUPERVISOR BRANDT PRESENTED BOARD MEMBERS WITH THE NEW ORGANIZATION
CHART THAT REFLECTS THE PROPOSED LAW AND ANALYSIS OF THE SAVINGS AS
PROPOSED
Supervisor Brandt-Noted he his bringing this forth as a second generation of public utilities department.
The first local law had hearings on before the budget was finished. Listened to the public and worked on it
during the budget process. It came to a second generation of the law which is proposed here. Would like
to set a public hearing and close the other one because the laws are different.
Councilman Caimano-Questioned if a resolution should be made to close out the old law before the new
one is set or if it could be done together?
Attorney Dusek-Stated you have to start the process all over at this point.
Councilman Caimano-Questioned if this should be done after the budget process is over?
Supervisor Brandt-Noted there is a proposed budget that shows figures to show what is proposed. Stated
there are things to talk about and this could be modified.
Councilman Caimano-Stated if you don't have the public hearing on the public utilities until the budget
process is over then when it comes forward it will be exact. Asked to wait until the budget process is over.
Supervisor Brandt-Noted there are a propose set of figures the exact figures will occur as the budget is
adopted, but this is public process you don't have to close the public hearing and adopt the law immediately
it's a matter of dialogue. Noted keeping the public dialogue opened is very healthy.
Councilman Monahan-Stated if you set the public hearing on November 1st, the public hearing on the
budget has to be by law Thursday, November 4th, noting the scheduling of this is very tight.
PRESENTATION MADE BY HANS HOENCK REGARDING PROPOSED PUBLIC UTILITIES
DEPARTMENT
Mr. Hoenck -Thank you very much for letting me have the opportunity to make a few comments on behalf
of the Advisory Group. For those of you that might not know what the Advisory Group is I will just briefly
describe it to you. We are a group of volunteers that were approached to assist the Town in matters relating
to fiscal problems, project problems, or project advise. Our activity is a non-binding one that your
probably can understand very well. It's just an advisory one and our membership is sometimes seven,
eight, or nine, depends on whose available. We are strictly a non-partisan group not reflecting on any
matters that relate to politics. I would like to have the opportunity on behalf of this group tonight to give
you a little background on the discussion we had relative to the organizational structure in the Township of
Queensbury.
MR. HOENCK READ THE FOLLOWING LETTER INTO THE RECORD
As members of the advisory group to the Town Supervisor, Mike Brandt, we have on many occasions
listened to, reviewed and discussed proposals to improve the quality and efficiency of the present town
organization structure. It was our intent to concentrate on obvious shortcoming, seek improvement in these
areas and leave well functioning parts as they are. Again, I want to emphasize our recommendation that
following are non-binding because we are not elected. This would be up to the Town Supervisor and Board
in the ultimate sense. It is the consensus of these deliberations that the proposed town organization chart
#3, I assume you have a copy of this can be transformed into a well functioning and highly efficient
structure. First of all, it should improve communications. Number of Department Manager positions held
to six. A very manageable size to permit effective oversight by Town Supervisor/Town Board.
Accountabilities within these departments are logically placed with only a small number of changes that we
recommend. Personnel changes are held to a bare minimum. There hopefully is a possibility to find a very
qualified individual within the present organization to fill the position of the Department of Public Utilities
Manager. That would only leave the need to hire a broadly experienced engineer for the indicated
engineering position. Departmental recommendation: Engineering. This position would add considerable
strengths to the Town management function. With an ever growing complexity in technology application
the function would be valuable to all departments. More valued to some departments and less value to
other. All departments ultimately might find a need for this particular function. In particular the
Department of Public Utilities, as most activities here involve engineering. Solid Waste: Since the Town
is mandated again, I refer to another position that reports through the Town Supervisor to the Board. Since
the Town is mandated to close landfill location and operation, considerable attention will be required to
close this location in accordance with mandated guidelines, especially environmental. Accounting and
Finance Function" The addition of a purchasing and inventory control function should improve the bidding
process and consumption of assets. Overall recommendations: The Town Board through its Supervisor,
should establish a clear meaningful outline of job responsibilities for each department manager through job
descriptions. Department managers to report periodically as in agreed format to Town Supervisor/Town
Board. Lastly, the Town Supervisor to meet periodically with department managers as a group and
individually to foster maximum understanding and cooperation for the purpose of achieving desired results.
That's the end of the formal letter I'm reading to you. I'm available for any additional comments if you
should desire.
Supervisor Brandt-Would you like to put that in the formal record?
Mr. Hoenck-Yes, I would like to put this letter in the formal record.
Supervisor Brandt-Thank you very much.
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SUPERVISOR TO SIGN
JOINT APPLICATION FOR PERMIT AND
APPLICATION FOR PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY PERMIT
REGARDING P ASCO AVENUE EXTENSION
RESOLUTION NO. 579,93
INTRODUCED BY:Mr. Pliney Tucker
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Susan Goetz
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor is hereby authorized and directed to execute the Joint
Application for Permit and Application for Public Water Supply Permit relative to the Pasco Avenue
Extension on behalf of the Town of Queensbury and to place the seal of the Town of Queensbury on said
document.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Brandt
NOES: Mr. Caimano
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION AMENDING 1993 BUDGET
RESOLUTION NO.: 580,93
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Michel Brandt
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury desires to amend the 1993 Town
Budget,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby approves, authorizes, and
directs that the 1993 Budget be amended as follows:
1) Increase Estimated Revenues in Account #4-4-3501 in the amount of $19,700.00;
2) Increase Appropriations in Account #4-5110-4630 by the mount of $19,700.00;
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the 1993 Town Budget is hereby amended accordingly.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Caimano, Mr. Tucker, Mrs. Monahan, Mr.
Brandt
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AGREEMENT WITH BUSINESS AUTOMATION SYSTEMS
FOR PURCHASE OF SOFTWARE & SERVICES FOR COMPUTERIZED
ZONING PROCESS TRACKING SYSTEM
RESOLUTION NO.: 581, 93
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Susan Goetz
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is desirous of entering into an
agreement with Business Automation Systems for the purchase of necessary software and services to
develop a computerized zoning process tracking system, and
WHEREAS, the Director of Accounting Services has advised that the Zoning module from
Business Automation Systems is an integral part of the overall Town-wide information system already in
place from Business Automation Systems and therefore, it would be inappropriate to obtain proposals from
other suppliers, and
WHEREAS, the Director of Accounting Services also advises that the purchase of the Zoning
software module from Business Automation Services is not subject to competitive bidding, because it
comprises a "professional service" involving "special or technical skill," the use of "professional
judgment," and a "high degree of creativity," said criteria being listed in the OSC Financial Management
Guide, subsection 8.0060, p. 12,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby approves the purchase of
the necessary software and services from Business Automation Systems for a zoning process tracking
system, at a cost not to exceed $5,900.00, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor is hereby authorized and directed to execute, on behalf of
the Town of Queensbury, a contract to be in a form approved by the Town Attorney, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby notes that the cost of the
services is not to exceed $5,900.00, and that no bidding is required under law and that in this particular
case, alternative quotes are not practical, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that this proposal shall be paid for from Account No.: 001-1680-2032.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Caimano, Mr. Tucker, Mrs. Monahan, Mr.
Brandt
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION TO AMEND 1993 BUDGET
RESOLUTION NO.: 582,93
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHEREAS, certain departments have requested transfers of funds for the 1993 Budget, and
WHEREAS, said requests have been approved by the Chief Fiscal Officer,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the funds be transferred as follows, for the 1993 budget:
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT:
FROM:
TO:
AMOUNT:
01-3510-1640
(Dog Control Officer)
01-3510-4760
(Vet Services)
$ 900.00
01-3510-1640
(Dog Control Officer)
01-3510-2001
(Misc. Equipment)
25.00
01-8020-4742
(Non-Reimburseable
Eng. Services)
01-8010-4100
(Telephone Use)
200.00
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the 1993 Town Budget is hereby amended accordingly.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Tucker, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Caimano, Mr.
Brandt
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TOWN CLERK TO SUBMIT PETITION
FOR CHANGE OF ZONE FOR ROBERT & CAROLYN MARTINDALE
TO TOWN OF QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD
RESOLUTION NO. 583, 93
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Michel Brandt
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Pliney Tucker
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury has previously approved a form entitled,
"Petition for a Change of Zone" for rezoning matters, and has directed that the same be used for rezoning
requests, and
WHEREAS, the Town Attorney for the Town of Queensbury has recommended that any and all
applications for rezoning must first go to the Planning Department and Planning Board for
recommendations regarding the same, and
WHEREAS, following such recommendations, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury will
then review the Zoning Applications and take such other action as it shall deem necessary and proper,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes and directs that
the following application be submitted to the Planning Board for the Town of Queensbury for report and
recommendation:
ROBERT & CAROLYN MARTINDALE -
Tax Map No.:s: 30-1-20; 30-1-19; 30-1-18; 30-1-17.2; 30-1-17.1; 30-1-16; 30-1-13;
and 30-1-14;
Route 149, approximately 2 miles east of Route 9, Queensbury, New York, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby indicates that it desires to
be Lead Agent for the SEQRA review of this project and directs that the Zoning Administrator's Office
notify any other involved agencies of this.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Brandt
NOES: Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Caimano
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION TO AMEND 1993 BUDGET
RESOLUTION NO.: 584, 93
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Michel Brandt
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHEREAS, certain departments have requested transfers of funds for the 1993 Budget, and
WHEREAS, said requests have been approved by the Chief Fiscal Officer,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
WATER DEPARTMENT:
RESOLVED, that the funds be transferred as follows, for the 1993 budget:
FROM:
40-8310-4060
(Service Contracts)
40-8320-4400
(Misc. Contractual)
40-8320-2899
(Capital Construction)
HIGHWAY:
FROM:
TO:
40-8310-4070
(Equipment Repair)
$ 400.00
40-8310-4200
(Insurance)
9,100.00
40-9950-9098
(Transfer to Treatment
Plant Capital Project)
TO:
004-5110-1440 004-5110-1470
(Heavy Equip. Operator) (Working Foreman)
$ 1,969.00
004-5110-1440 004-5110-1450
(Heavy Equip. Operator) (Motor Equip. Operator)
FROM:
004-5110-1400
(Laborer A)
004-5130-2040
(Heavy Equip.)
004-5110-4220
(Training/Education)
ATTORNEY:
FROM:
01-1420-4090
(Conference Expense)
01-1420-2010
(Office Equipment)
01-1420-4140
TO:
004-5110-1450
(Motor Equip. Operator)
004-5110-1450
(Motor Equip. Operator)
004-5110-4620
(Paving Materials)
TO:
01-1420-4050
(Books, Pub.s &
Subscription)
01-1420-4050
(Books, Pub.s &
Subscription)
01-1420-4050
27,500.00
2,872.00
$
5,679.00
14,839.00
86.00
$ 400.00
250.00
200.00
AMOUNT:
AMOUNT:
AMOUNT:
AMOUNT:
(Travel)
(Books, Pub.s &
Subscription)
01-1420-4100
(Telephone Use)
01-1420-4050
(Books, Pub.s &
200.00
Subscription)
ASSESSOR:
FROM:
TO:
AMOUNT:
001-1355-1670
(Real Prop. Info.
Sys. Clerk)
001-1355-1080
(Tax Service Ass't.)
$ 19,750.00
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the 1993 Town Budget is hereby amended accordingly.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Caimano, Mr. Tucker, Mrs. Monahan, Mr.
Brandt
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE QUEENSBURY
CONSOLIDATED WATER DISTRICT AND THE PEGGY ANN WATER DISTRICT
RESOLUTION NO.: 585, 93
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Michel Brandt
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Pliney Tucker
WHEREAS, there has heretofore been created and established a water district known as the Peggy
Ann Water District, and
WHEREAS, the aforesaid water district did not and does not have an independent water supply;
rather, it receives its water supply from the Queensbury Consolidated Water District, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is desirous of making sure that the
Queensbury Consolidated Water District is properly compensated for use of the District Treatment Plant
and Transmission Facilities, and
WHEREAS, an agreement has been presented at this meeting, which agreement is designed to
accomplish the foregoing desires and purposes of the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, as the Governing Board of both
the Queensbury Consolidated Water District and the Peggy Ann Water District, hereby approves and
authorizes the agreement between the two districts and further provides that the cost of the agreement shall
be paid for in the first instance, from quarterly water rents assessed against the residents of the District,
together with an additional payment from the appropriate budgeted account within the Peggy Ann Water
District.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Caimano, Mr. Tucker, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Goetz, Mr.
Brandt
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION TO SET PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED LOCAL LAW
REGULATING PARKING ON A PORTION OF LUZERNE ROAD
IN THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
RESOLUTION NO.: 586, 93
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Michel Brandt
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Pliney Tucker
WHEREAS, at this meeting there has been presented for adoption by the Town Board of the Town
of Queensbury, a Local Law which would provide for the regulating of parking on a portion of Luzerne
Road in the Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, such legislation is authorized pursuant to the Town Law, Vehicle and Traffic Law,
and the Municipal Home Rule Law of the State of New York, and
WHEREAS, before the Town Board may take action with regard to the proposed Local Law, it is
necessary to conduct a public hearing on said proposed Local Law,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the proposed action is determined to be a Type II Action under the rules and
regulations of the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation relative to SEQRA, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED AND ORDERED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury shall meet and
hold a public hearing at the Queensbury Activities Center, 531 Bay Road, Queensbury, Warren County,
New York at 7:00 p.rn., on the 1st day of November, 1993, to consider said proposed Local Law and to
hear all persons interested on the subject matter thereof concerning the same and to take such action
thereon as is required or authorized by law, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED AND ORDERED, that the Town Clerk of the Town of Queensbury is hereby
directed to publish and post the notice that has also been presented at this meeting concerning the proposed
Local Law in the manner provided by law.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
AYES Mr. Tucker, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Caimano, Mr.
Brandt
NOES None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING REPAIR OF ROAD TEST SITES
RESOLUTION NO.: 587,93
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Michel Brandt
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Pliney Tucker
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, by previous resolution, authorized the
employment of engineers to study the realignment and/or reconstruction of Peggy Ann Road, and
WHEREAS, as part of that engineering review, tests were conducted, such tests leaving areas of
the road that need to be replaced, repaired, sealed, and/or paved,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury supplements its previous
agreement with the Town Highway Superintendent and authorizes the replacement, repair, sealing, and/or
paving of those road test sites in the paved area of the road, as shown on a map developed by Morse
Engineering, P.c., bearing project no. 93-082, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor shall forward a copy of this resolution, together with a
copy of the map prepared by Morse Engineering, P.c., bearing project no. 93-082 to the Highway
Department.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Caimano, Mr. Tucker, Mr.
Brandt
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION TO DISCONNECT TV AND AUDIO MONITORING SYSTEM
LOCATED IN HIGHWAY GARAGE
RESOLUTION NO.: 588, 93
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Michel Brandt
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Pliney Tucker
WHEREAS, there exists a security t.v. and audio monitoring system in and outside the Town
Highway Garage which the Town Board wishes to have altered or modified,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorizes and directs the Superintendent of Buildings and
Grounds to arrange for the audio monitoring portion of the security system to be fully-disconnected and the
video and audio monitors inside the Town Highway Garage to be removed with the video monitors outside
of the garage to be left in place.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Brandt
NOES: Mr. Caimano, Mrs. Monahan
ABSENT:None
DISCUSSION HELD BEFORE VOTE:
Councilman Caimano- What is the purpose of this?
Supervisor Brandt - I like to see this disconnected. We're talking about the audio monitoring portion of a
security system in the Highway Garage which I'm not comfortable with because it can be used to listen to
what people are saying when they are at work. I don't think we should be doing that and the same with the
video system. I don't think people are comfortable working under the watchful eye of a video system all
the time. To me it's a bit of an insult to our employees. I have no problem with the video system
monitoring the outside of the building and I think this is to leave that capability. But, I also think in this
resolution it should be for the Superintendent of Building and Grounds to handle this rather than the
Highway Superintendent. The building is actually under Buildings and Grounds and under that charge
properly. I think it should be the Superintendent of Building and Grounds so in that resolution I would like
to change it to say that.
Councilman Monahan-Mike how come this is coming up? Has anybody requested, I know the union has
been aware of this for years that it's been going on and it's been going on for a specific reason so how come
this is surfacing now?
Supervisor Brandt-I certainly have been requested by many employees to get rid of it. I see a lot of reasons
to get rid of it so I'm sponsoring it.
Councilman Monahan-Mr. Naylor would you mind telling us the reason, please. I was here when it
happened, but would you mind telling the other board members why this was installed in the first place
relative to the safety of our employees, please?
Paul Naylor, Highway Superintendent -You said it all in a nutshell Betty. That's what it's all about it was
put in there was safety. What difference does it make it's an old road and we've gone over it many times.
Councilman Monahan- I think for the new members of the board before they maybe incur some kind of a
liability by having our employees not in safe conditions that perhaps you ought to tell them why we put that
in, in the first place.
Paul Naylor, Highway Superintendent-That's what is was put in there for the safety of the employees and
equipment so they could be monitored and the front gate so we could monitor who was going in, who was
going out, who would be taking stuff, and who wouldn't.
Councilman Monahan-But, if I recall correctly we did have a couple of incidents where it seemed like
trucks had been.....
Mr. Naylor-We sure did. Things happened they stopped happening after it was done.
Councilman Monahan-Trucks had been interfered with.
Mr. Naylor-Let's say lug nuts were loosened up.
Councilman Monahan-It put our drivers and men in a very unsafe situation when they were out on the
Highway is that correct, am I putting it correctly?
Mr. Naylor-Your putting it right on the button.
Councilman Monahan-That's why it was installed in the first place. It wasn't to eavesdrop. It wasn't to get
into their private business.
Mr. Naylor-That's what we got foreman's for.
Councilman Monahan-It was to protect their safety because of certain incidents that happened. We didn't
want them out on the road maybe losing brakes, losing other things, and we had reason to think that those
trucks had been interfered with am I correct when I say that?
Mr. Naylor-Your exactly right.
Councilman Monahan-Thank you.
Supervisor Brandt -You said it also protected against theft.
Mr. Naylor-It was put in there for safety reasons Mike that's what it was put in there for. A lot of things
happened, we don't eavesdrop. What we do is we play those tapes every 24 to 36 hours and we put them on
high speed. If something don't smell right like lights turn up in front of the garage that shouldn't be there
we stop it put it on slow. The men are all out on the road why would we care what's in the back garage
whose watching who in the back garage that's what I got foreman's for. There are three foreman to watch
the shop and the men that work there don't have to be watched it's the other ones that don't that's what
production all about you know that.
Supervisor Brandt-I think that your encroaching very much on people's right to privacy, I disagree with it.
When it comes to theft I'm told there is a refrigerated water cooler that left the building last year so
obviously it didn't do very much for that.
Mr. Naylor-Must be it didn't.
Supervisor Brandt-I think it's a misuse of government.
Councilman Monahan-I also took it upon myself to contact our insurance agency. I could not contact our
agent directly, but I contacted the person who assisted him. I asked if this security system had a baring on
the way our insurance is rated. I was assured it would be one of the factors that play into this the security
of the buildings and equipment.
Supervisor Brandt-That building has a security system beyond this does it not? What your saying the
security system of the building is not compromised by removing television monitors from inside the
building, I don't see where that's a factor at all.
Councilman Monahan-Except the steps that we're taking to make sure the trucks are safe.
Supervisor Brandt-I don't think the government has a right to look in on people's work and monitor
everything they are doing and saying. There are other ways to work with your employees and I'm
personally offended by it and I want it removed.
Councilman Monahan-Mike, you ought to check the security system that is in the Post Office that the
postal employees work under.
Councilman Goetz-Then they freak out and shot each other.
Supervisor Brandt-Maybe that's to much government, too, I don't know. I know this is Town government
and I don't like what's happening.
Councilman Goetz- I want to ask Paul a question. You mentioned suspected tampering with the trucks did
it happen inside the garage or outside?
Mr. Naylor-Inside the garage.
(VOTE TAKEN)
DISCUSSION HELD REGARDING SHORT ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM - FENCES
Executive Director, Mr. Martin went thorough the form as follows:
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-Does action exceed any Type I threshold in 6 NYCRR, Part 617 .12?
Supervisor Brandt-In your opinion does it?
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-No. B. Will action received coordinated review as provided for unlisted
actions in 6 NYCRR, Part 617.6?
Board Members-No.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-C. Could action result in any adverse effects associated with the following:
C1. Existing air quality, surface or groundwater quality, noise levels, existing traffic patters, solid waste
production or disposal, potential for erosion, drainage or flooding problems?
Board Members-No.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-C2. Aesthetic, agricultural, archaeological, historic or other natural or
cultural resources, or community or neighborhood character?
Board Members-No.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-C3. Vegetation or fauna, fish, shellfish, or wildlife species, significant
habitats, or threatened or endangered species?
Board Members-No.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-C4. A community's existing plans or goals as officially adopted, or a
changed in use or intensity of use of land or other natural resources?
Board Members-No.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-C5. Growth, subsequent development, or related activities likely to be
induced by the proposed action?
Board Members-No.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-C6. Long term, short term, cumulative, or other effect not identified in Cl-
C5?
Board Members-No.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-C7. Other impacts including in use of either quantity or type or energy?
Board Members-No.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-D. Is there, or is there likely to be, controversy related to potential adverse
environmental impacts?
Board Members-No.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-Reasons for supporting determination. After careful review of the
environmental assessment there are no foreseen impacts.
The following resolution was passed.
RESOLUTION ADOPTING DETERMINATION OF NON-SIGNIFICANCE OF
LOCAL LAW NUMBER 10, 1993
A LOCAL LAW TO AMEND THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
CHAPTER 179, ~179-74 THEREOF ENTITLED "FENCES"
RESOLUTION NO.: 589,93
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Michel Brandt
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Susan Goetz
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is considering the action of the adoption
of a Local Law which would amend the Code of the Town of Queensbury, Chapter 179, ~ 179-74 thereof,
entitled, "Fences" to modify the height restrictions for fences set forth in said ~ 179-74, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is duly qualified to act as lead agency
with respect to compliance with SEQRA which requires environmental review of certain actions
undertaken by local governments, and
WHEREAS, the proposed action is a(n) Unlisted/Type I Action pursuant to the Rules and
Regulations of the State Environmental Quality Review Act,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board after considering the action proposed herein, reviewing the
Environmental Assessment Form, reviewing the criteria contained in Section 617.11, and thoroughly
analyzing the said action with respect to potential environmental concerns, determines that the action will
not have a significant effect on the environment, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor is hereby authorized and directed to complete and execute
Part III of the said Environmental Assessment Form and to check the box thereon indicating that the
proposed action will not result in any significant adverse impacts, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that pursuant to Section 617.15, the annexed Negative Declaration is hereby
approved and the Town Attorney's Office is hereby authorized and directed to file the same in accordance
with the provisions of the general regulations of the Department of Environmental Conservation.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Caimano, Mr. Tucker, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Goetz, Mr.
Brandt
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION TO ENACT LOCAL LAW NUMBER 10, 1993
A LOCAL LAW TO AMEND THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY,
CHAPTER 179, ~179-74 THEREOF, ENTITLED "FENCES."
RESOLUTION NO. 590, 93
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Pliney Tucker
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is desirous of enacting a Local Law to
amend the Code of the Town of Queensbury, Chapter 179, ~ 179-74 thereof, entitled, "Fences," to modify
the height restrictions for fences set forth in said ~ 179-74, and
WHEREAS, a copy of the proposed Local Law has been presented at this meeting, a copy of said
Local Law also having been previously given to the Town Board at the time the Resolution was adopted
which set a date and time for a public hearing, and
WHEREAS, on August 23, 1993, a public hearing with regard to this Local Law was duly
conducted,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby enacts the proposed Local
Law to amend the Code of the Town of Queensbury, Chapter 179, ~179-74 thereof, entitled, "Fences," to
be known as Local Law Number 10, 1993, the same to be titled and contain such provisions as are set forth
in a copy of the proposed Law presented at this meeting, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Clerk of the Town of Queensbury is hereby directed to file the said
Local Law with the New York State Secretary of State in accordance with the provisions of the Municipal
Home Rule Law and that said Local Law will take effect immediately and as soon as allowable under law.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Tucker, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Caimano, Mr.
Brandt
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION TO SET PUBLIC HEARING AND TO DESIGNATE THE TOWN AS
LEAD AGENCY REGARDING PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE CODE
OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY, CHAPTER 179 THEREOF ENTITLED
"ZONING"
RESOLUTION NO. 591, 93
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is desirous of amending, supplementing,
changing and/or modifying the Town of Queensbury Zoning Ordinance, the same having been previously
codified and made a part of the Code of the Town of Queensbury as Chapter 179 thereof entitled "Zoning,"
and
WHEREAS, the proposed amendment to the said Code of the Town of Queensbury, Chapter 179
thereof entitled "Zoning" is in the form of a Local Law and is presented to this meeting of the said Town
Board with this resolution and is incorporated herein, as if more fully set forth herein, for all purposes, and
WHEREAS, a completed Part I of a Long Environmental Assessment Form has also been
presented at this meeting, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury may, from time to time, pursuant to
Section 265 of the Town Law and the relevant sections of the Municipal Home Rule Law of the State of
New York, amend, supplement, change, modify or repeal the Zoning Ordinance as codified by Ordinance
of Local Law, and
WHEREAS, in order to so amend, supplement, change, modify or repeal the Ordinance as
codified, it is necessary to hold a public hearing prior to adopting said proposed amendment, and
WHEREAS, it is also necessary to provide notice to other governmental bodies or agencies as
required by law, and
WHEREAS, it is also necessary to comply with the State Environmental Quality Review Act in
connection with conducting an environmental review of the proposed action which consists of adopting the
proposed amendment, and
WHEREAS, it would appear that the action about to be undertaken by the Town Board of the
Town of Queensbury is an unlisted action under the provisions of and regulations adopted pursuant to said
State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA),
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby indicates that it desires to
conduct a coordinated review and be the lead agency in connection with any reviews necessary pursuant to
the State Environmental Quality Review Act and directs that such notices be sent by the Zoning
Administrator to such other involved agencies as may be required under SEQRA to notify the agencies of
this action and that the Town Board desires to be lead agent in a coordinated review and that a lead agency
must be agreed to within 30 days, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury shall hold a public hearing on
November 22nd, 1993, at 7:00 p.m. in the Queensbury Activities Center, 531 Bay Road, Queensbury,
Warren County, New York, at which time all parties in interest and citizens shall have an opportunity to be
heard, upon and in reference to the proposed amendment, supplement, change and/or modification to the
Town of Queensbury Zoning Ordinance as codified and a part of the Code of the Town of Queensbury,
Chapter 179, thereof entitled "Zoning," and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Clerk of the Town of Queensbury is hereby authorized and directed
to give 10 days notice of said public hearing by publishing a notice in a form to be approved by the Town
Attorney and substantially in conformance with the Notice presented at this meeting, for purposes of
publication in an official newspaper of the Town and by posting on the Town bulletin Board outside the
Clerk's Office said notice, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Zoning Administrator is hereby authorized and directed to give written
notice of the proposed amendment to the Zoning Ordinance of the Town of Queensbury as codified and a
part of the Code of the Town of Queensbury, Chapter 179, thereof entitled "Zoning," a copy of the
Environmental Assessment Form, a copy of this resolution and a copy of the written notice previously
described 10 days prior to the public hearing to the following: Warren County, by service upon the Clerk
of the Board of Supervisors, and such other communities or agencies that it is necessary to give written
notice to pursuant to Section 264 of the Town Law and Municipal Home Rule Law of the State of New
York, the Code of the Town of Queensbury and the Laws of the State of New York, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Zoning Administrator is hereby authorized and directed to give notice of
said proposed amendment to the Zoning Ordinance as codified and a part of the Code of the Town of
Queensbury, Chapter 179, thereof entitled "Zoning," a copy of the Environmental Assessment Form, the
Notice of Public Hearing and a copy of this resolution to the Warren County Planning Agency and the
Town of Queensbury Planning Board for their review in accordance with the laws of the State of New York
and Code of the Town of Queensbury, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Zoning Administrator is also hereby directed to send a copy of the proposed
amendment, Notice of Public Hearing, a copy of the Environmental Assessment Form and a copy of this
resolution to the Adirondack Park Agency.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Caimano, Mr. Tucker, Mr.
Brandt
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
DISCUSSION HELD REGARDING SHORT ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM SIGN
ORDINANCE
Executive Director, Mr. Martin went through the form as follows:
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-Does action exceed any Type 1 threshold in 6 NYCRR, Part 617.12?
Board Members-No.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-B. Will action receive coordinated review as provided for unlisted actions
in 6 NYCRR, Part 617.6?
Board Members-No.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-C. Could action result in any adverse effects associated with the following.
C1. Existing air quality, surface or groundwater quality or quantity, noise levels, existing traffic patterns,
solid waste production or disposal, potential for erosion, drainage or flooding problems?
Board Members-No.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-C2. Aesthetic, agricultural, archaeological, historic, or other natural or
cultural resources, or community or neighborhood character?
Board Members-No.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-If anything maybe a positive impact. C3. Vegetation or fauna, fish,
shellfish or wildlife species, significant habitats, or threatened or endangered species?
Board Members-No.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-C4. A community's existing plans or goals as officially adopted, or a
change in use or intensity of use of land or other natural resources?
Board Members-No.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-C5. Growth, subsequent development, or related activities likely to be
induced by the proposed action?
Board Members-No.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-C6. Long term, short term, cumulative, or other effects not identified by
CI-C5?
Board Members-No.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-C7. Other impacts?
Board Members-No.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-d. Is there, or is there likely to be, controversy related to potential adverse
environmental impacts?
Board Members-No.
Attorney Dusek-On your negative dec you could put down for reasons supporting the determinations. No
impacts-revises current regulations concerning temporary signs in Town of Queensbury.
RESOLUTION ADOPTING DETERMINATION OF NON-SIGNIFICANCE OF
AMENDMENT TO SIGN ORDINANCE
RESOLUTION NO.: 592, 93
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Michel Brandt
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is considering the action of the adoption
of a proposed Amendment to the Sign Ordinance of the Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is duly qualified to act as lead agency
with respect to compliance with SEQRA which requires environmental review of certain actions
undertaken by local governments, and
WHEREAS, the proposed action is a(n) Unlisted/Type I Action pursuant to the Rules and
Regulations of the State Environmental Quality Review Act,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board after considering the action proposed herein, reviewing the
Environmental Assessment Form, reviewing the criteria contained in Section 617.11, and thoroughly
analyzing the said action with respect to potential environmental concerns, determines that the action will
not have a significant effect on the environment, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor is hereby authorized and directed to complete and execute
Part III of the said Environmental Assessment Form and to check the box thereon indicating that the
proposed action will not result in any significant adverse impacts, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that pursuant to Section 617.15, the annexed Negative Declaration is hereby
approved and the Town Attorney's Office is hereby authorized and directed to file the same in accordance
with the provisions of the general regulations of the Department of Environmental Conservation.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Caimano, Mr. Tucker, Mrs. Monahan, Mr.
Brandt
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
DISCUSSION HELD
Councilman Monahan-Questioned the difference in the copy received in her packet and the one being
reviewed tonight?
Attorney Dusek-Noted normally what would happen the Board would get a corrected version tonight if it
had been changed from Friday to today, Board received corrected version on Friday. The reason why the
Board received the additional marked up copy is that it is different than what you had at the public hearing,
noting a local law is never changed after the public hearing. If a change is made the Board has to make a
determination as to whether it is significant or a insignificant changed. If you find that it is insignificant
you can adopt the local law tonight. If you find it is a significant change you should hold another public
hearing. The only change that has been made is to the application of fees for sign applications pending and
not issued. If the Board feels comfortable, I think you could find it is a insignificant change. It was the
decision of the Town Board that this was a insignificant change. The following resolution was passed.
RESOLUTION DECLARING CHANGES INSIGNIFICANT SIGN ORDINANCE
RESOLUTION NO. 593, 93
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Michel Brandt
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
Supervisor Brandt-I like to propose that the changes offered by the Town Attorney are insignificant.
Councilman Caimano-I'll second it.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Caimano, Mr. Tucker, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Goetz, Mr.
Brandt
Noes: None
Absent:None
RESOLUTION TO AMEND SIGN ORDINANCE
RESOLUTION NO. 594, 93
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Susan Goetz
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is desirous of amending the Sign
Ordinance of the Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, a copy of the proposed Amendment has been presented at this meeting, a copy of
said Amendment also having been previously given to the Town Board at the time the Resolution was
adopted which set a date and time for a public hearing, and
WHEREAS, on September 27, a public hearing with regard to this Amendment was duly
conducted,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby enacts the proposed
Amendment to the Sign Ordinance of the Town of Queensbury, the same to be titled and contain such
provisions as are set forth in a copy of the Amendment presented at this meeting, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Clerk of the Town of Queensbury is hereby directed to file the said
Amendment with the New York State Secretary of State in accordance with the provisions of the Municipal
Home Rule Law and that said Amendment will take effect immediately and as soon as allowable under
law.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Tucker, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Caimano, Mr.
Brandt
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
DISCUSSION HELD REGARDING SHORT ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM - ROAD
DEDICATION F AWN LANE, AUTUMN LANE, PEACHTREE LANE
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-A. Does action exceed any Type I threshold in 6 NYCRR, Part 617.12?
Board Members-No.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-Will action receive coordinated review as provided for unlisted actions in 6
NYCRR, Part 617.6?
Board Members-No.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-C. Could action result in any adverse effects associated with the following.
C1. Existing air quality, surface or groundwater quality or quantity, noise levels, existing patterns, solid
waste production or disposal, potential for erosion, drainage or flooding problems?
Supervisor Brandt-It is insignificant. There is some effect, but it is insignificant.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-C2. Aesthetic, agricultural, archaeological, historic, or other natural or
cultural resources; or community or neighborhood character?
Board Members-No.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-C3. Vegetation or fauna, fish, shellfish or wildlife species, significant
habitats, or threatened or endangered species?
Board Members-No.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-C4. A community's existing plans or goals as officially adopted, or a
change in use or intensity of use of land or other natural resources?
Board Members-No.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-C5. Growth, subsequent development, or related activities likely to be
induced by the proposed action?
Supervisor Brandt-Again, yes, but insignificant.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-C6. Long term, short term, cumulative, or other effects not identified in
CI-C5?
Board Members-No.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-C7. Other impacts including changes in use of either quantity or type of
energy?
Board Members-No.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-D. Is there, or is there likely to be controversy related to potential adverse
environmental impacts?
Board Members-No.
Supervisor Brandt-What language do you want to add to this?
Attorney Dusek-I think this one has it inserted already.
Councilman Tucker- Have we received the recreation fees on all of these?
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-Yes, on Phase I only.
Councilman Tucker-All three roads are involved in Phase I?
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-Only in Phase I.
Councilman Tucker-I'll move it.
Councilman Caimano-I'll second it.
RESOLUTION ADOPTING DETERMINATION OF NON-SIGNIFICANCE
OF ROAD DEDICATION
RESOLUTION NO.: 595, 93
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Pliney Tucker
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is considering the acceptance of
Autunm Lane, Fawn Lane and Peachtree Lane, offered for dedication by Forest Wood Homes, Inc., and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is duly qualified to act as lead agency
with respect to compliance with SEQRA which required environmental review of certain actions
undertaken by local governments, and
WHEREAS, the proposed action is an unlisted action pursuant to the Rules and Regulations of the
State Environmental Quality Review Act,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, after considering the action
proposed herein, reviewing the Environmental Assessment Form, reviewing the criteria contained in
Section 617.11, and thoroughly analyzing the project with respect to potential environmental concerns,
determines that the action will not have a significant effect on the environment, and
BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby finds that the proposed
responses inserted in Part 11 of the said Environmental Assessment Form are satisfactory and approved,
and
BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor is hereby authorized and directed to complete and execute
Part III of the said Environmental Assessment Form and to check the box thereon indicating that the
proposed action will not result in any significant adverse impacts, and
BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED, that the annexed Negative Declaration is hereby approved and the Town Clerk is
hereby authorized and directed to file the same in accordance with the provisions of the general regulations
of the Department of Environmental Conservation.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Caimano, Mr. Tucker, Mr.
Brandt
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION ACCEPTING DEDICATION OF
AUTUMN LANE, FAWN LANE AND PEACHTREE LANE
RESOLUTION NO. 596, 93
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Pliney Tucker
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHEREAS, Forest Wood Homes, Inc. has offered a deed to dedicate to the Town of Queensbury
Autunm Lane, Fawn Lane and Peachtree Lane, which is more particularly described in the survey map
presented at this meeting and the original deed being presented to this meeting, and
WHEREAS, Paul H. Naylor, Superintendent of Highways of the Town of Queensbury has advised
that he has inspected Peachtree Lane, Fawn Lane and Autunm Lane in the Sherman Pines Development and
proposed to be dedicated to the Town of Queensbury and he advises that, to the best of his knowledge, they
meet with Town specifications and with his approval, and
WHEREAS, Thomas K. Flaherty, Superintendent of Water of the Town of Queensbury, has
advised that he has made an inspection of water mains and appurtenances along said road proposed for
dedication and finds that the installation is in accordance with the requirements of the Town of Queensbury
Water Department, and
WHEREAS, the form of the deed and title to the road offered for dedication have been reviewed
and approved by Paul B. Dusek, Town Attorney for the Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury has considered the environmental
effects of the proposed action by previous resolution and issued a Negative Declaration pursuant to the
State Environmental Quality Review Act,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the aforementioned deed for dedication of the said road be and the same is
hereby accepted and approved, that the Town Supervisor is hereby authorized to execute, sign and affix the
Town seal to any and all documents necessary to complete the transaction, and that the Town Clerk is
hereby authorized and directed to cause said deed to be recorded in the Warren County Clerk's Office, after
which said deed shall be properly filed and maintained in the Office of the Town Clerk of the Town of
Queensbury, and
BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED, that the road be hereby added to the official inventory of Town Highways, to be
described as follows:
Road Number: 496
Description: Beginning at Sherman Avenue and continuing in a south\easterly
direction, a distance of 1579' and .29 hundredths of a mile and
ending at Peachtree Lane
Name:
Autumn Lane
Feet:
1579'
Road Number: 497
Description: Beginning at Peachtree Lane and continuing in a northerly
direction, a distance of 135' and .02 hundredths of a mile and ending at Dead
End
Name: Fawn Lane
Feet: 135'
Road Number: 498
Description: Beginning at Autunm Lane and continuing in
a distance of 823' and .15 hundredths of a mile and ending at
an easterly direction,
dead end.
Name: Peachtree Lane
Feet: 823'
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Caimano, Mr. Tucker, Mrs. Monahan, Mr.
Brandt
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION TO INSTALL STREET LIGHT ON CORNER OF DREAM LAKE ROAD AND BAY
ROAD
RESOLUTION NO. 597,93
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is desirous of arranging for the placement of one
250 watt high pressure sodium street light on Dream Lake Road and Bay Road on Niagara Mohawk pole
#119,
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
RESOLVED, that a 250 watt high pressure sodium street light be installed on Niagara Mohawk pole
number 119 at Dream Lake road and Bay Road, and
BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor of the Town of Queensbury shall make all arrangements through
Niagara Mohawk Power Corporation.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Caimano, Mr. Tucker, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Goetz, Mr.
Brandt
Noes: None
Absent:None
DISCUSSION HELD
Councilman Monahan-Spoke to the Board regarding phone calls and letters from Insurance Consultants
asking if the Town is going to be using Insurance Consultants. Noted the insurance agent the Town
presently has, has done an excellent job and had saved money. Recommended to the Board to stay with the
firm they are with and not use a consultant this year. It was the decision of the Town Board to stay with the
firm that they already have.
Councilman Caimano-Questioned the Town Attorney regarding the closing of the AMG/Astro-Valcour
closing. Attorney Dusek noted that this is something that should be discussed in executive session.
DISCUSSIONS
SIDEWALKS - WAL-MART
Executive Director, Mr. Martin- Spoke to the Board regarding Wal-Mart Plaza sidewalks. Noted Wal-Mart
was willing to install the curb cuts that would provide a sidewalk. Looking for the Town to accept
maintenance and liability of the sidewalks. Spoke with the Highway Department and they have advised
against it. Previous discussion was held it was noted that Mr. Martin would ask Wal-Mart if they would
accept maintenance and liability over the sidewalk area, they will not. Questioned the Town Board as to
what direction they want to take?
Supervisor Brandt-Noted there is a policy question of sidewalks in general. Noted the Town should pass an
Ordinance giving the maintenance of sidewalk to the property owners town wide, Town Board members in
agreement.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-Questioned if they would like the curb cuts installed?
Town Board Members-Yes.
Supervisor Brandt-Noted it is the Town Boards intent to move ahead with the law and that Wal-Mart
should go ahead with the installation of curb cuts in anticipation of the law, Town Board members in
agreement. Attorney Dusek to draft local law.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-Spoke to the Board regarding Planning Board salaries noting that two
people are in excess of the limit. Asked the Town Board to pass a resolution raising the limit to $1,200.00.
The following resolution was passed.
RESOLUTION AMENDING RESOLUTION NO.4, 1993
RESOLUTION No. 598, 93
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Michel Brandt
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby amends Resolution 4,1993 which
provided that the amounts to be paid to the Chairman, Secretary, and members of the Planning Board and
Zoning Board of Appeals would not exceed $900.00, that resolution is hereby amended to read not to
exceed $1,200.00, and
BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED, that the salaries for the Chairman, Secretary, and members shall come from the Town
General Budget and from the accounts designated therein for that purpose.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Tucker, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Caimano, Mr.
Brandt
Noes:None
Absent:None
OPEN FORUM
COMMENT PERIOD - HUDSON POINTE PUD
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-I'll try to deal with these in chronological order. I'll start with the Planning
Board letter dated September 29, 1993. Dear Town Board Members: On behalf of the Queensbury Town
Planning Board, I am writing this letter in response to recent disclosures pertaining to the Hudson Pointe
PUD. Specifically, our concerns arise from the letter our board received from Attorney Jeffrey Freidland,
bringing to our attention various inconsistencies in the proposed plan. Our board wishes to go on the
record to express our displeasure to the many changes and omissions that have been incorporated into the
plan. When this board rendered our favorable recommendation for this project, it was our impression that
your board would review the same plan that we had reviewed. This has not happened. Many changes
apparently have been incorporated into this application since it left our board. Although the applicant
returned to our board for a recommendation to include the "Southern Exposure" subdivision into their PUD,
we did not have the opportunity to express our input to other changes and modifications that apparently
have been made. Therefore, on behalf of the Planning Board, I am requesting this project be recalled to our
board for further evaluation. Sincerely, Craig MacEwan Letter of August 26th, 1993, From Jeffrey
Friedland (on file Town Clerk's Office).
October 4th, 1993 To: Jim Martin From: Paul H. Naylor Re: Hudson Pointe Plans
Jim, I have reviewed these plans until I am blue in the face. I am still not satisfied, there has got to be a
better way. An Engineer will have to look hard at this road system and come up with a better plan, I cannot
buy it the way it is. Respectfully, Paul H. Naylor, Highway Superintendent
To: Queensbury Town Board Members Subject: Hudson Pointe PUD From: Southern Adirondack
Audubon Society Date: October 12, 1993
Dear Ladies and Gentlemen: The issue of the Hudson Pointe Planned Unit Development has been of the
utmost concern for the Southern Adirondack Audubon Society. The purpose of this letter is to address our
comments to the Town. Southern Adirondack Audubon members have been involved since last November.
We have been carefully reviewing all the documents, particularly the DEIS, attending the majority of the
meetings and walking the proposed site on numerous occasions. We cannot agree with the DEIS as it has
been presented. The major objection we have is the development of the pointe and the sites situated along
the bluff from Archaeological site Sherman Island 7, down to the pointe. These areas are of vast
importance as ecological and cultural resources. They should be considered as significant resources worthy
of being conserved, reserved or preserved, rather than being subject to exploitation for a housing
development. The unique characteristics of this area offer us a mature hemlock forest, sandy sensitive
bluffs, a beautiful view shed and cultural remains of Native Americans that can be important in relating
their story of occupation in the area. The use of conservation easements and their enforcement is an issue
of great concern. Not enough of the ecologically sensitive areas are to be included in these easements and
no guarantees have been made for enforcing their protection as stipulated by the DEIS. Supervision by a
Homeowners Association is not sufficient in either continuity or vigorous control. Are the deed restrictions
limiting access to the river and the cutting of vegetation within the 50 foot buffer zone enforceable? Will
there be markers to delineate this 50 foot buffer? Will no cutting of vegetation as opposed to selective
cutting be adhered to? There is a discrepancy in the DEIS regarding the cutting of vegetation. This is
found in comparing Appendix K (numbers 10 and 11) with Section 2.0, third paragraph on page 2-1. How
will reparations be made if violations area committed; for example in the case of the removal of a healthy
125 year old hemlock? Runoff and erosion are other significant concerns particularly with the storm water
management plan. The 200 percent increase in cubic feet per second, according to their own statistics, for
the 10 year plan, represent a significant impact on this area. The inadequacy to the storm water
management could cause pollutant loading (which would include herbicides and pesticides) to enter the
groundwater and shortly thereafter the Hudson River. Please refer to the Haanen Engineering letter of June
25, 1993. The inclusion of two forty foot docks is a major change to the original plan. These large docks
are more conductive to motor boats than canoes. With the increased use of this flood plain will come a
greater impact to this sensitive area. Other concerns with this site are the exclusion of bathrooms of some
type; and the question of who will take these docks out of the water during the winter seasons. Will this
area also invite swimming and the development of a beach? Who will inform the swimmers and boaters of
the dangers of the large increase in water flow from the power plant up the river? Also, there would be
significant impact to this site if an emergency access road is to be built down to the water. A memorandum
from Alan Koechlein to Joe Prall, dated March 9, 1993, gives testament to the evidence of misuse at the
present time and likely increase to abuse to the floodplain. The cultural history of the area is a very viable
issue. The reports issued by Ed Curtain and his archaeological findings offer important information
regarding Native American occupation dating back to the late Archaic period (2000-3000 BC). As very
little is known about the prehistory of Queensbury, (as stated in Section 3.9 of the DEIS), these sites may
have enormous potential. Although the implications of the DEIS are to protect these sites the question of
further research and the storage and or exhibition of the findings remains unsettled. Artifacts that come
from these sites should remain in the Queensbury Glens Falls area. If these perhaps the National Register,
then it would make this location in Queensbury very important indeed. If the plan goes through for the
creation of the Champlain Hudson Corridor these sites would certainly be included and an asset to the
community. Other concerns deal with the wildlife and the flora. If development were to take place would
a wildlife corridor to facilitate the animal use and or reaction be implemented? What changes will take
place during migration by the waterfowl that make use of this area? Will many of the protected plant
species be irrevocably lost to lawns and driveways? So many of these issues remain unsettled. Also
unsettling are the vast changes that have been made in the plan since it was first submitted. There are
changes in lots and lot sizes, changes in density location to makeup for loss of pointe lots, changes in the
recreational aspects and the trail system, and the addition of the two forty foot docks intended for canoes.
There just doesn't appear to be a sufficient diversity of houses to warrant a PUD rather than a simple
subdivision. This PUD with its economic impact on the developers should not be considered as an excuse
or reason for automatic approval. In section 5.6 the statement that it would be financially unacceptable to
the project sponsor for the board to consider the no action alternative is ludicrous. This sounds like pure
manipulation. The project sponsor will deem any loss to an opportunity cost. In conclusion we feel that
the environmental damage to these precious resources is inevitable and unable to be mitigated should the
project proceed as submitted. Therefore, a course of no action to the bluff areas and the pointe should
strongly be considered. There seems to be no justification for resource exploitation in the form of
development to this site. In saving these natural and cultural resources we will make an investment that
will appreciate in value for future generations. Once these areas are gone, they are gone forever! Sincerely,
Linda M. White, Southern Adirondack Audubon Society.
To: Queensbury Town Board Date: October 13, 1993 Supervisor Ladies and Gentlemen: My wife and I
want to express our concerns on the Hudson Pointe Development for your information. We feel that if this
project is continued it should not be allowed PUD designation. It should be compelled to comply with the
Queensbury Zoning Plan, as other development has. That any development be kept back from the sensitive
bluff area, no docks or structures to be allowed on the lower level. Please remember when the Indians
visited that area (and they did) the river was much lower than it is now, considered the flooded area caused
by the Feeder Dam. This area should be eventually included in the green way along the Hudson. The
Michaels Group and others make light of EMF concerns by high voltage lines. Just because the Health
Department hasn't drafted guide lines doesn't mean we shouldn't be cautious about where we locate
development. Remember what happened at Buffalo Love Canal and even our local PCB problems. The
developer maintains the water table is deeper than 50 feet. The people who lived here prior to the town
water know many of us pumped our water using shallow well pumps which will only lift slightly over 20
feet. To further prove my point, I have spent my youth on the Hudson Big Bay and can show you countless
springs and brooks coming out 8 or 10 feet above the current level of the river in this area. Niagara
Mohawk has always posted this area KEEP OUT DANGER HIGH VOLTAGE. Now all of a sudden it is
okay to locate as many as five hundred (500) people, many of them children in harms way. The power
houses which used to be protected these buffer zones were manually operated now they are automatic
without even a watchman. If they think they can keep scores of curious children from investigating they
are creating an accident waiting to happen. I have read most of the draft EIS and was surprised to find
many contradictions. One example is the cutting of trees and brush on the bluff area one place the Draft
says, no cutting in another it says selective cutting. The developer seems to interpret the word mitigate as
cure all. They feel as long as they mention mitigated that the problem automatically disappears. I would
like some details on how they intend to solve their many problems. This project will compete with the
already overloaded real estate market in the whole town and county, and tend to reduce the value of all
property due to supply and demand. I have tried to eliminate some of the many other problems with this
development as I am sure you will tire of reading them over and over. Thank you for your careful
consideration. Very truly yours, Sterling W. Akins and Ruth B. Akins
To: James Martin From: Joanna Brunso Date: October 8, 1993
Dear Mr. Martin: I have reviewed the Traffic Impact Study of the Draft Environmental Impact Statement
for the Hudson Pointe Planned Unit Development and find that it is acceptable and that no further
mitigation is necessary than that proposed in the study. This development, when fully developed, will
further the deterioration oflevel-of-service at Exit 18 of the Northway. Although the Corinth Road
Corridor Study performed by the Transportation Concepts indicated that this interchange will fail in 1994,
work is currently underway to add a 300 foot turn lane and signal improvements at the bottom of the ramps.
These improvements will improve the level-of-service and push out the failure year. However, in the long
run, the corridor study indicates that this interchange must be reconstructed to provide for five lanes (two
lanes in each direction and a turn lane in the middle). Since the Town of Queensbury is expanding in the
area west of Exit 18 and along West Mountain Road, it may be prudent for the Town to consider a
commitment from which developer for a fair share of the Town's share of these eventual improvements.
Thank you for the opportunity of commenting on this proposed development. Very truly yours, Joanna
Brunso, Acting Staff Coordinator, Glens Falls Transportation Council
To: Mr. James Martin Date: October 18, 1993 Re: Hudson Pointe DEIS
Gentlemen: As requested by the Town of Queensbury and as per our Contract with the Town, Morse
Engineering, P.c. has attended the Public Meeting on the Hudson Pointe project. We offer the enclosed list
of comments for evaluation by the Developer and inclusion in the FEIS. I trust that when the Town has an
opportunity, it will copy our organization on all written comments received for our ultimate evaluation of
the FEIS and the preparation of a finding statement in association with your Department. Very truly yours,
Richard Morse, President
Hudson Pointe Morse Engineering's Comments On The DEIS
1) Concerns for access on bluff - The Developer should establish a plan to prevent access to the bluff and a
contingency plan in the event informal access is started. 2) The Developer should define who will use the
boat storage and picnic shelter on the point, i.e., Homeowners' Association member or general public.
3) The Developer should proposed a technique to preclude vehicle access on the emergency road proposed
for the point property. 4) Concerns raised with the reference to Niagara Mohawk PCB dump sites should
be addressed (see sketch submitted at Public Hearing). 5) Would the Developer clarify if the proposed
sidewalk on the west side of Sherman Island Road to Morningside Circle is still proposed (letter of
December 2, 1992 from Michaels Group to Dr. Jack V. Irion). If so, please note on Site Plan.
To: Town Board From: Jim Martin Date: October 18, 1993 Re: Comments on the Draft Environmental
Impact States (DEIS) for the Proposed Hudson Pointe PUD
I have reviewed the DEIS for the above references project and I have the following comments: 1) Possible
PCB contamination. Comments have been received from the public which state that PCB's are present on
the project site. Comment: Soil analysis tests should be conducted indicating contamination levels (if any)
at random pointe throughout the site. Specific sites which are of special concern are the sites where trash
dumping is visible. The response to this comment should include a description of the soil testing procedure
used and the basis for the number of selected testing sites and the location of testing sites. 2) Conservation
easements. The DEIS states that some of the open space areas will be under conservation easements
maintained by the homeowner's association or the Town of Queensbury. Comment: Conservation
easements are an integral part of the mitigation plans for this proposed development. Therefore, all
attempts to workout the details of these easements should be made prior to the statement of this proposal.
Using a base map of the project boundaries, a map should be supplied indicating those areas which will be
covered by the conservation easement. A narrative should be supplied in addition to the outline in
Appendix K which gives detailed answers to the following questions: a) Who will own the land covered by
the easement? b) What will be the enforcement measures taken for violations of the easements? c) How
much land is covered by the easements? d) How will the boundaries of the easements be marked and
maintained? e) Will regular inspections be made of the areas covered by the easements. If so how often
and by whom? 3) Dedication of land. Will the project proposal include dedication of land for parks and/or
recreation? if so, where and how much? 4) Sewage disposal. Comment: Clarification should be supplied
as to the specific approach to be used for the disposal of wastewater from the dwelling units. Will modified
solid be used or will a variance be sought from he NYS Dept. of Health? 5) Alternatives. More detail
needs to be provided on alternatives as to the concept proposal. Comment: A set of review criteria needs
to be developed for each alternative. Each alternative can then be inserted into a matrix. This matrix will
then allow for consistent and accurate assessments of each alternative. The criteria should be tailored to the
unique circumstances associated with this proposal. For example, one criteria might be; potential for
impact on bluffs. Such a review method will require detailed a consistent information on each alternative
proposed. Alternative should include but not be limited to; the no action alternative; a project designed
using the clustering concept and conventional density standards; other proposed sites for the project; etc. 6)
EMF's. The project sponsor has indicated that existing standards associated with magnetic fields are being
met. Comment. Recent information indicates that EMF's may not cause cancer but may accelerate its
development. The benefit and cost of reconfiguring the lines through the project area should be explored.
Reconfiguration would include repositioning of improved, insulated cables on the transmission towers. 7.
Traffic pattern. Comment: The assessment of the alternative project designs should include an analysis of
the impact of leaving the existing southerly most entrance to the Southern Exposure subdivision open. 8.
Archeological concerns. Comment: An on-site evaluation should be done of the potential impact of the
activities proposed along the shoreline. This evaluation should be done by the consulting archeologist.
That represents, I believe all the comments.
Councilman Monahan-Jim, I'm have some more to add. I didn't see in there maybe it is there because the
index system was not very good. My original comments from the Zoning News, January 19th, 1992 about
the EMF's. I'm putting in Electromagnetic Fields and Land-Use Controls, American Planning Association,
Planning Advisory Service Report Number 435. I'm putting in New York State Department of Public
Service, What is New York State Doing About Electric and Magnetic Fields? Dr. Driscoll card is attached.
I'm putting in the English edition of the Swedish National Institute of Occupational Health, No 7/1992 New
Evidence of Cancer from Electromagnetic Fields. (on file Town Clerk's Office). I found the whole EIS
riddled with speculative statements, conclusion being drawn. This says it seems it is likely, which I did not
considered proven conclusions. The potential financial impact they gave only the positive side none of the
negative. It was very speculative concerning as far as materials and jobs. The one about landfill charges
was speculative in conclusion. The sewers we need to know more about the percolation rate particularly by
river and wetlands all the way down. The mitigation I felt that there were a lot of questions and as I said,
potential environmental impacts could cause, likely that they weren't definitive. I didn't bother to list all of
them because some of them are ones that other people have picked up. I agree with you that they didn't go
into the alternatives. The community need was because they wanted to bring money into their own
company, I didn't really see that as a community need frankly. Archeological and mitigation how
effective? Concerned about normal working hours, water resources, density. Their objectives. I thought
that's the one they were talking about they wanted to make jobs for their own people. I thought that
objectives had nothing to do with our community development objectives that part as far as I'm concerned
is crazy, I shouldn't say crazy, but it's a non-valid answer to what it's suppose to be. I go back to what the
Attorney said that I agree on waterfront residential cannot be part of a PUD according to our Ordinances
and I have the worksheets from the committee that I think will back that up. Then, how is the Town going
to enforce the Conservation Easement owned by the Homeowners Association? How will canoes get down
to the parking lots and still protect the bluff, the structures that are in the sensitive area? It says motorized
boats will be prohibited then if that's true why do they need docks protruding forty feet into the river?
There are contradictions in there, etc.
Supervisor Brandt-Refresh my memory. When is the comment period closing?
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-It closes with the adjournment of this meeting.
Supervisor Brandt -So if there are people here that want to make comment we should invite that at this
point?
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-Yes.
Supervisor Brandt-I'll open it to anyone that wants to make comment.
Mr. Brewer-The letter that Jeff Friedland sent is that going to be included?
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-I don't have a copy of it.
Councilman Caimano- W e just got it tonight.
Mr. Brewer-I understand. I just don't want it to be left out.
Councilman Monahan-Why don't you read the date in Nick?
Councilman Caimano-It's a letter from Jeffrey Friedland, Miller, Mannix and Pratt, dated October 18th,
1993 (on file in Town Clerk's Office)
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-That letter attaches the letter from the State Historic Preservation Office of
September 22, 1993 from David Gillespie (on file Town Clerk's Office)
Supervisor Brandt-Is there any other comment that anyone wants to make on the official record before we
close?
Steve Chagnon-I have property on Palmer Drive which is on the river. My comments on Hudson Pointe
after doing a review of that document there. One of the things that I've noticed is there is no special
consideration given. The area that's being developed is different than other areas that are being developed
in the township. This area sits on a very porous aquifer that's next to a source of drinking water for a lot of
communities downstream. I don't see it addressed very well in that document and I haven't really heard it
being addressed at any of the previous meetings, but I do want to bring it to your attention. The perc test
there indicate the area is very porous and they suggest some remedial work to be done around septic
systems to mitigate the flow of leachate from the septic tanks directly into the river almost from just going
through this very porous ground. I think that we have enough problems up along the shoreline in Lake
George right now and the Lake George Basin with putting septic tanks in a condition where the leachate
eventually ends up in the water source. To see that the mitigating measures that are suggested here, I don't
think they are going to adequately do it myself. I think that any development of this area at all within this
whole sand berm, that's a geological sand berm that's left there that your going to have to have off site
sewage treatment of some sort to treat anything in there because whatever you put in there is going to end
up in the river in a very short period of time it's what their perc test say and what they've said in their DEIS.
Also, in their DEIS they indicate they have no way even with their mitigating measures to handle the
nitrogen flowing from the development into the soil. We know its going right into the river they tell you
that, I forget the paragraph, but it's there. The other thing was a concern to me was the access to the site
and they are proposing to access the site through establish developments. The thing is that from my
experience of developments around where the construction vehicles both the construction equipment
vehicles and the employees vehicles traveling down through there they usually go at a pretty high rate of
speed. The trucks and things will drop off debris and create a lot of dust and actually pretty dangerous
conditions for any already established neighborhood. You've got kids up there playing around there are no
curbs, sidewalks, or safe zones to tell kids where to stop and where trucks to start it creates a real hazardous
condition. I would suggest that one, any development to be done in this property that a road a construction
road at least be created down that one neck of property they have that goes down to Corinth Road.
Probably that road should be put in with the idea of developing for future traffic, but the inhabitants of that
development. Again, it's a safety measure for the established developments already. People have already
made their life investments in these other developments and to all of a sudden throw upon them a traffic
condition that they have no control over and that can seriously effect there kids and everything else it's just
not fair to other people. The proposed density of a hundred sixty three homes in this PUD even the
numbers that would be allowed by current zoning potentially doubles the existing number of homes that
exist now along the river. According to a survey done by Tim he counted one hundred seventy seven
homes between Sherman Island Road and the Northway bridge. He just did a rough count and he started
there and started counting one day. If your talking one hundred sixty three and a hundred and seventy
seven already there your doubling that density in a real small area. It's just too much for such a small area
it's way out of line with what's existing. The other thing is in looking at the DEIS and talking with various
groups around the Nature Conservancy and Adirondack Mountain Club they all agreed that the impact on
the river is going to be something that nobody really wants. However, they have all kind of shyed away
and they said there aren't any studies done, but a study should be done on the impact of the increase boating
just on the river basin that would go from the dam down to the Northway bridge. As a resident on that
body of water now, I've watched traffic problems with boating in the summer time it's just very dangerous.
To talk about raising the potential of the number of boats on there by five hundred percent really requires
some kind of study. Both environmental impact such as bank erosion by waves from big motors to just the
safety conditions or hazardous conditions created to swimmers and water skiers by the large number of
boats in such a small area. I think I'm almost done. I would suggest that some kind of an impact study of
this nature be done before any further progress goes with this plan because it something that we're going to
need regardless of what happens. The thing is right now everyone that I have talked too says, yeah its a
disaster, but we don't handle it. As a resident there we know its a disaster already and we're asking you to
handle it before we create something worse. The other thing, of course, to mention is the traffic. We're
talking about doubling the number of housing and we already know about the traffic and I think that in the
DEIS they say there is a minimal impact on traffic, I would ask them to kind of redo their study. What they
are saying and what's reality out there on the road are two different things. The other one comment that I
have is two comments. One has anybody considered what the impact on the bluffs are going to be when
you put the proposed hundred plus kids in that site? I love kids, I've got a couple myself and I have no
problems with it. I think it's a great place for kids to play, but your talking about the banks up there and
your talking about having the kids live there and those banks are very sensitive to foot traffic. I think
Reverend Storms brought up at an earlier meeting how are you going to keep the kids from digging holes
up in the back? They love to do it and the environment there is not suitable for quick recovery to the
normal wear and tear the kids put on the turf. The other thing I noticed and this is the last comment is in
the DEIS they talked about pruning the bush along the bluffs and they said they would take out trees or any
vegetation with a six inch or smaller caliber. I think you are talking about your going to kill what ever is
growing up on the banks basically because the six inch caliber tree is a pretty good size tree and I think
probably that number should be reduced to less than one inch. Primarily because the soils there are very
porus the roots that hold the plants there need to take hold. If you take a smaller plant out then the other
smaller plants are just not going to have any space to grow. There is not going to be enough protection for
them to take over and that's my comments. Thank you.
Supervisor Brandt-Is there anyone else that wants to put comments on the record?
Mrs. Akins-This is a letter from Anne Ruchalski. Dear Mr. Brandt and Members of the Queensbury Town
Board. I realize that this is the last night for the public comment on the DEIS for the Hudson Pointe PUD
project. I would like to emphasize one last time that I feel the DEIS is incomplete, contradictory, and
vague. If a PUD is necessary for the land, topics such as the density, conservation easements, wetlands,
sewage treatment, soil erosion, and impact on the community need to be more concise and clear. If a PUD
is necessary, as a citizen of Queensbury, I need to feel safe in knowing that our Hudson River and
surrounding wild life are protected. I support no development on the Hudson Pointe. Sincerely, Anne
Ruchalski. I just have one more thing. If I was writing this historically for Queensbury its always been
known as Hudson Pointe, I don't mean Hudson Pointe, I'm very nervous tonight, Potter's Point.
Supervisor Brandt-Known as Potter's Point.
Mrs. Akins-And Little Bay down in there.
Supervisor Brandt-Are you willing to leave that letter so we can put in right in the official record.
Mrs. Akins-Thank you.
Supervisor Brandt-Thank you very much.
Michelle Burch-Besides all these concerns, I question the need of this size project. When it comes time to
vote I would hope that you vote no for rezoning of this. If something has to go in, I suggest my opinion is
maybe we could look at affordable housing. Thank you.
Supervisor Brandt-Anyone else that would like to leave comment on the record. It's our last chance tonight
to do it.
Councilman Caimano-Are we officially closing the public comment period then?
Supervisor Brandt-With the close of this meeting. Is there anything else to come before us other than open
forum?
Mr. Brewer-Does any of the other board members have any comments at all?
Councilman Caimano-Not yet. I haven't had a chance to read this letter yet there is a lot of meat in
Freidland's letter.
Mr. Brewer-I mean about the DEIS?
Councilman Caimano-Not yet.
Supervisor Brandt-I made certain comments I think, I don't want to embellish them anymore.
Gene Lashway-Highway Department. Spoke to the Board regarding his concern for rabies. He is one of
the four highway department men assigned to pick up dead animals on the side of the road. Spoke with
Dr. Evans regarding rabies shots. The cost is $360.00 for three shots a piece for the four highway
department men. Asked the Town Board to pass a resolution regarding this. The following resolution was
passed.
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING RABIES SHOTS HIGHWAY EMPLOYEES
RESOLUTION NO. 599,93
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Pliney Tucker
RESOLVED, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes an expenditure not to exceed
$1,500.00 for the purpose of allowing those Highway employees who are designated to pick up dead
animals or what is otherwise known as road kills to obtain rabies vaccination shots through Dr. Evans
Office or facilities, and
BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED, that this should be paid for from an appropriate account to be identified by the Town
Supervisor.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Caimano, Mr. Tucker, Mr.
Brandt
Noes: None
Absent:None
L. Paul Daigle, Queensbury-Presented petition to Board of residents opposed to the reflecting political
signs of Paul Naylor, Highway Superintendent. Spoke to the Board regarding his concern for the signs
noting they are hazardous to drivers. Asked the Town Board to rendered their opinion on whether they are
reflective, Attorney Dusek to research matter with Executive Director, Mr. Martin.
Rick Missita-West Mountain Road. Noted in regard to problem of the signs being a hazard to the driver the
signs being referred to meet New York State Traffic Control Device Code.
Fred Champagne-Candidate for Town Supervisor. Asked is this matter becomes political that all
candidates running look at the 15 foot distance from edge of road to sign. Questioned the Board regarding
Mr. Palmer being a member of the committee for the Department of Utilities, noted Mr. Palmer is now
running for Second Ward Councilman. Questioned the by-partisanship of the group when organized?
Supervisor Brandt -Stated Mr. Palmer resigned from the group when he decided to run for office.
Mr. Champagne-Asked if there were minutes of the meetings of the Advisory Board, are they on file?
Supervisor Brandt-No minutes.
Mr. Champagne-Asked who else signed the report made by Mr. Hoenck besides Mr. Hoenck? Asked if the
committee was appointed by the Board or Mr. Brandt?
Supervisor Brandt-By myself. Look into the law since it is a Supervisors Advisory Committee that are not
required to keep minutes and not subject to the opens meetings law.
Town Clerk, Dougher-It was signed by no one.
George Wiswall-Candidate for Councilman Ward Two-Noted Dick Palmer and himself agreed not to put
up any SIgnS.
Dick Palmer-Candidate for Second Ward. Hopes that the Town will always have people to give their
services. Noted that when he decided to run for the Second Ward he resigned.
RESOLUTION APPROVING AUDIT OF BILLS
RESOLUTION NO. 600, 93
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Pliney Tucker
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Michel Brandt
RESOLVED, that the Audit of Bills appearing on the Abstract of October 18th, 1993 and numbering
93374200 through 93403605 totaling $518,515.51 is hereby approved.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Caimano, Mr. Tucker, Mrs. Monahan, Mr.
Brandt
Noes: None
Absent:None
Abstain:Mr. Caimano (#000127 Post Star) Mrs. Monahan (#000453 Community Workshop)
RESOLUTION ENTERING EXECUTIVE SESSION
RESOLUTION NO. 601, 93
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Michel Brandt
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from Regular Session and
moves into Executive Session to discuss three matters of litigation, one matter real property values, and
attorney/client privilege.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Caimano, Mr. Tucker, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Goetz, Mr.
Brandt
Noes: None
Absent:None
RESOLUTION ADJOURNING EXECUTIVE SESSION
RESOLUTION NO. 602, 93
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Michel Brandt
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from Executive Session
and moves back into Regular Session.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Tucker, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Caimano, Mr.
Brandt
Noes: None
Absent:None
DISCUSSION HELD
Attorney Dusek-Noted that the Town Board is in agreement on the General Motors pickup truck litigation.
That the Town should stay a part of the classification as you already are.
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SETTLEMENT OF ASSESSMENT
RESOLUTION NO. 603, 93
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Michel Brandt
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHEREAS, there is an assessment proceeding entitled Beverly C. Tobin against Helen Otte, Assessor of
the Town of Queensbury, Board of Assessment Review of the Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, a proposed settlement of this assessment claim has been presented to the Town Board,
NOW THEREFORE BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby approves a settlement of an
Assessment on Tax Map No. 8-1-127 for 1993, such that the current assessment of $37,000 shall be
reduced to $26,000 and the Town Attorney is authorized to sign the Stipulation and to obtain any necessary
Court Orders and file such other papers as may be necessary to settle the case.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Tucker, Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Caimano, Mr.
Brandt
Noes: None
Absent:None
DISCUSSION HELD
Councilman Caimano-Requested that Attorney Dusek do a quick analysis of the problem regarding QEDC,
AMG/Valcour. Also, requested Attorney Dusek report back to the Board no later than November 1st, as to
what happened and what course of action should be taken.
RESOLUTION ADJOURNING MEETING
RESOLUTION NO. 604, 93
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Michel Brandt
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns its Regular Meeting.
Duly adopted this 18th day of October, 1993, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Monahan, Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Caimano, Mr. Tucker, Mr.
Brandt
Noes: None
Absent:None
No further action taken.
On motion, the meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully Submitted,
Darleen M. Dougher
Town Clerk
Town of Queensbury