1994-04-04
REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING
APRIL 4, 1994
7:00 P.M.
MTG#17
RES#167-186
LL#3
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT
Supervisor Fred Champagne
Councilman Carol Pulver
Councilman Nick Caimano
Councilman Dr. R. George Wiswall
Councilman Betty Monahan
TOWN ATTORNEY
PAUL DUSEK
TOWN OFFICIALS
Barbara Howe, Colleen Kimble James Martin, Paul Naylor, Ralph VanDusen
PRESS
POST STAR
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCILMAN PULVER
Supervisor Champagne-Opened the meeting.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
BAY RIDGE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY - TRUCK PURCHASE
OPENED
NOTICE SHOWN
Supervisor Champagne-Anyone here to speak on behalf of Bay Ridge?
Attorney Paul Pontiff-representing Bay Ridge Volunteer Fire Company. The public hearing is for the
purpose of approving or disapproving financing for a new rescue pumper. The financing for purposes of
your information and that of the public is financing specifically provided under the Internal Revenue Code
in the way of tax exempt financing. After much study the Fire Company determined was the least
expensive way to finance approximately half of the cost of the rescue pumper that they are proposing to
purchase. The balance of the funds are available in the company truck fund which has been set aside
specifically for this purpose to replace antiquated equipment which no longer serves the function for which
the Fire Company is responsible in the Town of Queensbury. The public hearing is required for the
financing under the Internal Revenue Code in order to satisfy the requirements of tax exempt financing and
requires after a public hearing having been noticed for fourteen days the Town Board to approve or
disapprove the financing. If the Town Board approves the financing then the Supervisor who is the
principal person in the Town would execute a document certifying to the Towns approval of the financing,
that along with the other documents would be furnished to the organization providing the financing. We
would enter into a lease purchase agreement with them which would call for payments over a five year
period. The interest rate is four point something percent, I can give you that exact figure if someone asked
me that question I'd look in the file. In fact one of the members of the company may know it better than I,
if the question arises. There is not much financing around at that interest rate and I want to impress upon
everyone that the Fire Company has done extensive study with respect to reducing the cost for the
acquisition for this piece of equipment. In addition to that their policies called for a bid of three proposal
for any new equipment purchase of this caliber. They submitted specifications to three possible bidders,
received responses from two, did not receive a response from the third. The one that they choose is some
seventy thousand dollars than the other proposer. In addition to that there is some specific equipment that
the proposed seller and manufacturer has offered to provide to the company as an incentive to acquire the
equipment. I will not get into the details of that equipment unless the question is asked. But, I want to
assure you that the company has taken and made every effort to obtain the best possible price for the
equipment and the best possible financing available not only for their own financial responsibility, but for
that of the Town for which they are responsible under their contract with the Town. If there are any
questions, I'd be happy to take them.
Supervisor Champagne-Any questions from the Councilman?
Councilman Monahan-In the light of interest rates going up now do you know for how long this interest
rate is guaranteed?
Attorney Pontiff-Betty I can't answer that question today. A person in my office spoke with LaSale Bank
last week and at that point there was no indication that they were proposing to make a change, although we
haven't asked that question specifically.
Councilman Monahan-Thank you.
Councilman Caimano- The resolution tonight is to vote on the financing, is that right Paul? That vote then
says we're going to purchase that truck?
Attorney Dusek-The resolution to vote on the financing in essence also indicates approval obviously to
purchase the truck, although there is a separate resolution that is also present to give a formal approval
under the contract terms that requires approval over fifty thousand. There are two separate resolutions, but
really the financing one basically indicates an approval of the purchase as well.
Councilman Wiswall-This interest rate expired February 10th, has it been renewed?
Attorney Pontiff-According to the contract the lease purchase agreement they had dated the lease purchase
agreement February 10th, but needless to say February 10th, has come and gone. At this point in time,
as I indicated Doc we have not been advised that the interest rate has been changed. I would have to call
and find out the answer to that question specifically.
Councilman Wiswall-The rate is 4.73 percent, this is from LaSale Bank.
Supervisor Champagne-Any other questions from the Council?
Councilman Pulver-I have a question. We had requested some information from all the Fire Departments
and we have not received it, like how many fire runs they made. How many runs did they make last year?
Attorney Pontiff-I think much of that information has been supplied, but I'll defer to Chief Mellon to
answer that question.
Just a second we can give you that answer.
Councilman Pulver-The Fire Committee sent out a letter and requested a bunch....
Attorney Pontiff-I've seen the letter.
Councilman Pulver-We have not received any of that information from Bay Ridge.
Charles Mellon, Chief of Bay Ridge Volunteer Fire Company-What was the question?
Attorney Pontiff-The question was how many fire runs in 1993.
Councilman Pulver-How many were standby's, mutual aid, auto accidents, kind of break down?
Mr. Mellon-I don't have it broken down by category for that year. I do have it broken down for a five year
period.
Councilman Pulver-You don't have it broken down for last year?
Mr. Mellon-No.
Attorney Pontiff-The letter requested run sheet totals for 1993, which really doesn't indicate exactly how
you wanted the information. Certainly there is no objection on the part of the Fire Company to provide that
information your entitled to it.
Supervisor Champagne-Any other questions? Anyone to speak from the public?
Mr. Mellon-At this time, I'd like to read a letter that was sent to me, I'll give the Town a copy of it. It is
addressed to me Fire Chief, Bay Ridge Volunteer Fire Company, Dear Mr. Mellon, I would like to
commend the Bay Ridge Fire Department for their quick responses whenever their services are needed and
most of all the lives that have been saved. In response to your letter to Queensbury residents I found it to
be very informative, through and factual to us all to consider our opinion regarding the fire apparatus
rescue pumper purchase. I an unable to attend tonight's board meeting, but I would like to voice my
opinion in favor of this purchase and also encourage all the Board members to do the same. All in
attendance should be asking themselves the questions, if only one life could be saved was the vote in favor
worth it. Good Luck. Sincerely, JoAnn Cerio, RR5 Box 99, Queensbury.
Attorney Pontiff-You might want to address that with respect to the Route 149, responses.
Mr. Mellon-Can you just allow me for a second to get the rest of my information.
Attorney Pontiff-What I've asked Chip to do just now is to provide you with information on responses on
Route 149. Particularly which is now very much in the news with respect to expansion and development for
commercial and other purposes. Just to give you a flavor of the kind of responses that occur and have
occurred there on that route other than ignoring the other areas of the district. It might at this point while
Chip is looking for this information be worth while for you to know that if you recall you approved an
amendment to the Certificate of Incorporation for purposes of qualifying under the Internal Revenue Code
as a tax exempt organization and obtaining qualification. That certificate has been approved by the
Supreme Court and has been filed by the Secretary of State so that's in process.
Mr. Mellon-To take an excerpt from the Route 149 Corridor Study, which was done by the Queensbury
Planning Department. As far as transportation facilities this is background information. Route 149 can be
characterized as a narrow winding road with numerous blind spots and hazardous intersections. The high
traffic volume and high speed, 55 mph only serve to intensified the safety problems associated with travel
on the road. Accident reports collected by DOT support the notion that there are some dangerous stretches
of road. The areas around Ridge Road and Bay Road intersections have the most accidents. The area
around Oxbow Hill Road and Martindale Road are the other areas with the highest accidents counts.
Traffic counts taken seem to indicate the road is often operating or excess the DOT designated hour volume
of fifty six to five hundred eighty vehicles per hour. Since the roadway is only twenty feet wide there is
little room for error when two large commercial vehicles pass. In preparation for this study up to date
information regarding future road work was obtained from the regional program research specialist at DOT.
The New York State DOT representative for this region also indicated that where feasible curb radius
would be adjusted to relieve blind and sharp curbs along the road. This reconstruction should reduce some
of the congestion and improve the most hazardous sections of the road. However, these improvements
when completed will serve to reinforce the use of this road as a regional arterial connector to southern and
central Vermont. We complied some information with regards to responses on Route 149 only. Since 1980
we responded to 245 incidents on that road. They include 12 fire alarm activations, 11 hazardous materials
and propane incidents, 6 brush fires, 14 wire calls, 3 good intent, 19 structure fires, 14 vehicle fires, 13 5
motor vehicle accidents, in addition another 31 responses to motor vehicle accidents where extractions
were required that is to remove subjects from the vehicle with hydraulic equipment, jaws of life.
Councilman Monahan-Chip can you explain good intent, wires, and fire alarm activations.
Mr. Mellon-Wire calls would be any type of transformer fires, transmission lines, power lines, any type of
electrical equipment. Good intent, is Dave Strainer here? Dave Strainer is our 3rd Assistant Chief he does
fire reports. Why don't you explain exactly what good intent is Dave.
Dave Strainer-That's kind of a category where they call you out in the middle of the night. There is not
really too much to worry about. Say somebody has a cat in a tree there is a good intent. You go to the call,
but you don't really do a lot. It's something some people are afraid something is going to happen. It could
be sayan electrical outlet in your home shorts out people see the smoke they call you. It's really not a
dangerous thing, but it could be and people call you to investigate it.
Councilman Monahan-Fire alarm activations are those false alarms when the fire systems go off and are not
suppose to?
Mr. Strainer-Yes.
Mr. Mellon-It can also be caused in part by water main breaks which create water conditions which in a
sense there are no actual fire hazard, but there is a hazard due to the fact that the water could be leaking on
electrical equipment.
Councilman Monahan-In a case of a false alarms Dave what are you doing to try to diminish those?
Mr. Strainer-A false alarm and one of the classical ones we continue to have is up on Chestnut Ridge at a
Doctors house, even Hiland Park. You can get dust in your smoke detector that goes to an alarm
notification company, you know you have to go check these out no matter what they are.
Councilman Monahan-I'm not saying that. But, I do know of some business I've heard not really in Bay
Ridges territory that are repeat offenders because their system needs to have some work done on it.
Mr. Strainer-Each time too, it could be a different detector you just don't really know until you get there
you have to investigate it.
Councilman Monahan-I'm not talking about not responding. I'm talking about in the meantime if you find
one business let's say or one home that has a constant series of false alarms are there some educational steps
or pressure you put on to try to get them to clean up their act?
Mr. Strainer-We do notify them that there are agencies they can call and get them repaired such as the
alarm company that installed them. We can also notify the Fire Marshal....
Supervisor Champagne-Excuse me. I'm aware that the Sheriffs Department is working on it also Betty.
Councilman Monahan-Are they, I saw the article in the paper.
Supervisor Champagne-Eventually all private alarms will be registered with them and there will be a cost
to be a part of that system. As you continue to have the false alarms obviously they will be charged against
that so that's down the road, but according to Mr. Lamy that will be happening sometime in the near future.
Attorney Pontiff-A couple of other things I'd like to point out if we may do so. I think the members of the
Town Board received either over the weekend or today an outline from the Chief relative to the reasons for
the acquisition for this piece of equipment. There are just a couple of things in there that I'd like to address
as being important for your consideration. I think Chip may also want to expand upon that, it won't take us
very long to do that. On the second page, item four refers to the fact that Bay Ridge must have at least one
engine available to respond from each station at all times. We have two stations, we have two engines plus
the one we're replacing. If an engine is out of service then we don't have the necessary backup needed to
fulfill that requirement. The fifteen hundred gallon per minute fire pump in this instance when we acquire
a new piece of apparatus all pumps will be the same and will make maintenance and operation a lot
simpler. To train a pump operator is an extensive proposition. For those of us who have been involved
with the fire service for sometime we know what it takes for an operator of a pump to function at a fire
scene. For those of you that don't know if the hose line comes off the rear of the engine it is very difficult
for the pump operator to know at all times which pump he is dealing with, which hose. If they come off the
side of the engine where the gages are and the operator is functioning it certainly makes things a lot simpler
and enables the fire service to put water on the fire a lot quicker. That's a question that I think Chip might
even be able to deal with a little more extensively than myself. The larger water tank in the Bay Ridge
District we all understand there are no separate fire districts in the Town, that the Town is a fire district, but
within the area that is the primary responsibility of Bay Ridge, there are very few sources of public water
available so when you arrive at a fire scene you need adequate water supply. At the moment we don't
really have that and with this engine we would have plenty of adequate water supply until a tanker could
appear on the scene. Very important to attack a fire initially and be able to knock it down for purposes of
long term benefit in taking care of a fire. The pre-connected hose lines, again will save a lot of time in
putting water on a fire. At the moment the existing pumper which is now by the way at Quaker Ford being
repaired because it's broken down, it does not have that availability. There may be a couple of other things
Chip that you may want to point out in that letter just as a matter of emphasis.
Mr. Mellon-Going back to number one decrease insurance rate of property owners in the fire district.
When obtaining fire insurance for property insurance for property insurance companies refer to the
protection class as rated by ISO Commercial Risk Services. The rating given by ISO dictates the fire
insurance rates for property owners. Items that are reflected in this rating are type, age, and quality of
equipment handled by the local fire department, receiving and handling fire alarms and water supply. In
July of 1992, Bay Ridge received correspondence from ISO indicating they have resurveyed our district
and lowered the rating from five nine to four nine. This resulted in a decrease in fire insurance rates for
many insured commercial properties within the district. I do have a copy of the correspondence.
Councilman Pulver-Chip, I have a question on that. If your going to go through this letter item by item, I
may have to interrupt you. I'm to understand that Bay Ridge right now has a better rating than it did in
1992.
Mr. Mellon-That's correct.
Councilman Pulver-With the old equipment. Your claiming that the possibility exists for the rating to
decline because you have this old equipment. What I want to know is the rise in the cost of insurance is
that going to offset the cost of this equipment if there was a rise in cost of insurance to our taxpayers? If
our taxpayers are going to have to pay more in their fire insurance is that going to equal the cost, in other
words you buy the fire truck keeps the insurance rate where it is. If you don't buy the fire truck the
insurance goes up. But, is it going to go up what it's going to cost them in their taxes to maintain this
equipment?
Mr. Mellon-I really can't answer that question. In May of 1991, ISO was in this area and at that time our
engme.......
Attorney Pontiff-Specifically Carol, I think to answer that question we don't have those statistics available
to us at the moment. I'm not sure that it's a dollar for dollar offset. I think probably it would be something
that we would have to determine from checking with an insurance company to find out exactly what kind
of an increase in rate would occur. But, I think it's also important to remember that using this financing in
this budget for this fire truck will not increase the existing budget of the fire company because that's not
what we're looking to do. We're not looking to increase the amount of dollars that are committed to the fire
service for 1994 or even for future years. This is all built into what has already been contemplated and will
not cause an increase in the fire tax.
Councilman Pulver-Back to my point. This is misleading this letter that we all were sent and we're reading.
One of the things your claiming is that without buying this equipment there is a potential for the increase in
insurance rates and yet you don't have any of the facts and figures to back it up. As far as the cost, I know
that if I buy a brand new car today I got to expect to maintain it. It is going to cost me something in the next
three years even though I may pay cash for it, I'm still going to have to maintain it. I've seen in everyone's
budgets a brand new building and we have a line item for repairs and things to the building the next year
that have to be done.
Attorney Pontiff-I don't think there is any question about that. I think maintenance is an on going problem,
but maintenance of new equipment is less expensive than maintenance of old equipment particularly the
piece of equipment that we're talking about now which is twenty-five years old.
Councilman Pulver-Back to my point then. You can understand that I feel this is misleading this particular
part.
Attorney Pontiff-We didn't mean to be misleading. All we're trying to do is just point out that there is a
potential for a change in the insurance rate without the adequate equipment in the district.
Councilman Caimano- That was going to be my question, too. First of all, I appreciate your quick response,
I really do. But, the overriding whatever fifteen, ten pages....
Attorney Pontiff-I told him to put it all on one page.
Councilman Caimano- The overriding issue of the ten pages boils all the way back to paragraph one, two,
three, four five. That's to me whether or not you have some very real reason to assume that if you don't get
this truck based upon these things in here that the insurance rate is no longer going to be four nine, but will
go up.
Mr. Mellon-That's not the only reason for the truck.
Councilman Caimano-I understand that. But, you make a big issue and rightfully so the fact that you've
done a good job and reduced the rates. The implication in the rest of the report and you used the word,
could, I don't know how, could, is used. I don't know how strong the word could is used, but the
implication in the rest of the report is that these rates will rise these insurance rates rise if we do not replace
this equipment.
Attorney Pontiff-Well, they may rise maybe that's a better way to put it.
Councilman Monahan-Nick, I think your making an over simplification. It's been a long time since I've
worked directly with ISO rates so I hate to say too much. But, I'm assuming ISO checks not only the
protection that's available in an area. I know they check the distance from the fire companies a distant from
hydrants. But, I'm also sure that they look at the number of losses, the severity of them, response to it, etc.
I don't think you can pin them down to an ISO rate on one isolated thing it's a component of it.
Councilman Caimano-I'm not trying to pin them down. I'm trying to determine whether or not.....
Councilman Monahan-That would all factor in on what effect this would have on response time on the
severity of a fire. A fire that's $200,000 can they keep it down to a $50,000 fire all those things have a
bearing on your ISO rate.
Councilman Pulver-What I see in the letter is they tried to pin it down so that if they didn't get this truck
their rates would go up.
Councilman Monahan-I didn't read it that way. I just read it as this is an accomplishment as a result of the
fire companies and what they are doing to keep themselves up to a good rating. That's the way I read it that
this is an accomplishment from the way we have handled our fire business.
Councilman Caimano- With the old equipment.
Councilman Monahan-I don't think old or new equipment comes into it. I think it's an idea how they are
responding to fires. As you have older equipment, yes your going to have some breakdowns maybe it is
going to be at a vital time. Your asking everybody to use seven sight, I don't think anybody's got it.
Attorney Pontiff-I think it's important to remember that's one factor it is not the total consideration.
Councilman Wiswall-Paul are you a member of Bay Ridge?
Attorney Pontiff-No, I'm a member of Queensbury Central.
Councilman Wiswall- Y our a past President of Queensbury Central.
Attorney Pontiff-Yes.
Councilman Wiswall-Are you still a member and active?
Attorney Pontiff-I'm not active but, I'm a HLM.
Councilman Wiswall-I'm not either. I was the first President before we had a fire truck.
Attorney Pontiff-I know.
Councilman Wiswall-We located the fire station within range where we could get the best insurance for the
most people that were covered by our service two mile radius but, that's not the point. The purchase of this
new truck would help to guarantee the rate that your getting now. If you keep going along with this old
truck falling apart someday your going to lose that rate. One of the reasons your buying it is to guarantee
that you keep that low rate, right?
Attorney Pontiff-It's to maintain the kind of rate that we have now and hopefully maybe even reduce it if
that's possible.
Mr. Mellon-I have to apologize Nick if you get the impression that the underlining tone of this letter is to
talk about insurance rates because the only page that refers to insurance rate is the fist page.
Councilman Pulver-That was only my question on the first, what is the rise in cost.
Mr. Mellon-Number two as far as the ISO requirements. We have a required flow of a minimum of 2,500
gallon per minute. If one engine is out of service at this time with just two engines we can't meet that
requirement that's a reason why we need to have three. As, I stated there is a credit given if we do have
three and are able to maintain that rating.
Councilman Pulver-Do you have three right now?
Mr. Mellon-Correct.
Councilman Pulver-So if one is out you don't meet the requirement. If you buy a new truck and sell the old
truck and you have three and one is out you still don't meet the requirement?
Mr. Mellon-The truck we have right now if it goes out of service because of the possibility of several
including the damage to the pump which we noted before that they don't make the pump anymore very hard
to get parts. If in the meantime if that truck is out of service or gone whatever if we have another truck go
out of service for routine maintenance whatever reason some type of extended down time we're not able to
fulfill the requirement.
Councilman Pulver-That could even happen if you have the new vehicle you could have your two other
vehicles down.
Attorney Pontiff-No. The new vehicle and the other two vehicles other than the old truck have greater
pumping capacity and gallonage than the old truck. What, I think Chip is trying to say if, I understand
correctly is that if one of the existing pumpers goes out of service the other two will not maintain the
necessary requirements. But, with a new truck that we're talking about it has the capacity so that even if
one truck is out of service it should be able to meet the requirements because the gallonage capacity is not
the same in the old truck.
Councilman Pulver-You have me confused. Right now if one of your trucks goes out you don't meet the
requirements?
Mr. Mellon-If the Bean goes out of service right now and another truck goes out of service behind it then
we're not able to meet the requirements.
Councilman Pulver -Your talking two trucks being out?
Mr. Mellon-That's correct.
Councilman Pulver-So if two trucks are out you don't meet the requirements?
Mr. Mellon-There are several times during the year one truck will go out of service for some type of
routine maintenance. The problem that we're concerned about right now as we detailed is that the Bean
pumper if we have a problem with it, I listed a few of the problems in this letter and the other one that will
bring us right down to two from the start if it's not replaced.
Councilman Pulver-Your saying if you've got two trucks out of service you don't meet the requirements?
Mr. Mellon-That's correct.
Councilman Pulver-What about mutual aid, do you mutual aid then?
Mr. Mellon-We would mutual aid, but that still doesn't enter into the fact that we need to maintain 2,500
gallons per minute in our district.
Councilman Pulver-You just said if you have two trucks down you wouldn't meet the requirement and that
could happen.
Mr. Mellon-The chances of having two engines down at the same time is very low percentage.
Attorney Pontiff-What would happen with the new truck Chip? If you had the new truck and two engines
were down?
Mr. Mellon-If the new truck and two engines were down we still wouldn't meet the requirement, but we
would have three Class A
engines that do meet the pumping requirements. With two engines we would make whatever the minimum
pumping is. Due to the age of the truck chances are that we would not have two out at the same time.
What, I'm saying right now is if the Bean goes out of service it may go out permanently if something
happens to the pump then we're automatically down to two because we don't have a replacement for it.
Councilman Pulver-I guess we can all sit and play the, "what if', if this happens, that happens. I just want
to try and get a handle on the basics here. If the truck your trying to replace is out you still don't meet the
requirements, right? If you have two trucks working and one truck down you don't meet the requirements?
Mr. Mellon-We do.
Councilman Pulver-You do meet the requirements.
Supervisor Champagne-Two trucks have got to be out.
Councilman Pulver-Two trucks have got to be out. It really doesn't make any difference if it's the new
truck or the old truck....
Attorney Pontiff-I think the only difference Carol is this. The only difference is that the possibility of two
trucks being down with a new piece of equipment verses the old piece of equipment is less than substantial
that's the point that Chip is trying to make. The old piece of equipment is more likely to go down then a
newer piece of equipment and that's the point he is trying to make. With that old piece of equipment the
odds are that your going to be down with that piece of equipment and then you run the risk of having the
second piece down verses now only with three new pieces of equipment or relatively new pieces of
equipment risking only one piece down at which time you would meet the requirements.
Mr. Mellon-That would happen right now.
Councilman Pulver-Do we have other pumpers in the Town?
Mr. Mellon-Yes.
Councilman Pulver-We have other pumpers in the Town and if that were to happen, I mean supposing we
have a new piece of equipment and the other two are down we would mutual aid so that we would have
coverage?
Mr. Mellon-We would mutual aid but, we may not meet the requirements ofISO for protecting in that
district. Not to say that we couldn't call for another engine to assist us at the fire, but we may not meet the
ISO requirement which is to maintain 2,500 gallons of pumping capacity.
Councilman Pulver - I guess we run the risk everyday of not making their requirement if we ever had two
pumpers or whatever they are down, right?
Councilman Monahan-Carol, ISO would not rate you on something that would happen temporarily. They
would rate you more on the likelihood they would take into consideration the age and capacity and so on
and so forth.
Councilman Pulver-So it would be the whole picture.
Councilman Monahan-Yeah.
Mr. Mellon-The Bean which is the one we would like to replace is out of service again for approximately
one week. It was out of service a week ago for a week. Right now if another truck were to go out of
service that would be a perfect case of not being able to make the requirements because one is being out of
service for lack of a better word to doctor it up to keep it going for another year until we get the
replacement. I guess we should go to some definitions to start with.
Councilman Monahan-Just so we can put this into perspective. That's why I'd like a chart, I remember
asking you guys for a chart. Just go through some stuff for me will you please. Engine 324 you also call
the Bean?
Mr. Mellon-Yes.
Councilman Monahan-Give me a date.
Mr. Mellon-Seventy-four, seventy-five. Seventy-four cab, seventy-five body.
Councilman Monahan-Capacity?
Mr. Mellon-Seven hundred fifty gallon tank, one thousand gallon per minute pump.
Councilman Monahan-But, your carrying seven hundred and fifty with you?
Mr. Mellon-That's correct.
Councilman Monahan-The other equipment that you have.
Mr. Mellon-The other two engines are both fifteen hundred gallon per minute pumps.
Councilman Monahan-Wait a minute. Give me a year, please.
Mr. Mellon-An eighty eight Halm.
Councilman Monahan-Wait a minute your not giving it to me in the same order.
Mr. Mellon-Sorry about that.
Councilman Monahan-Capacity?
Mr. Mellon-Capacity your talking about the water tank size, one thousand gallons.
Councilman Monahan-Next piece of equipment and age?
Mr. Mellon-Ninety-two Beck.
Councilman Monahan-Ninety-two what?
Mr. Mellon-Beck.
Councilman Monahan-Capacity?
Mr. Mellon-Thousand gallon water capacity, pump fifteen hundred gallons per minute.
Councilman Monahan-Those are the three you have now. Do you have one more?
Mr. Mellon-We have one tanker that has no pump.
Councilman Monahan-One tanker...
Mr. Mellon-That carries seventeen hundred gallons water.
Councilman Monahan-Seventeen hundred?
Mr. Mellon-Correct.
Councilman Monahan-The new one you want.
Mr. Mellon-KME.
Councilman Monahan-KME, would be a ninety-four not a ninety-three.
Mr. Mellon-It would be a ninety-five.
Councilman Monahan-Capacity?
Mr. Mellon-Eight hundred gallons water, fifteen hundred gallon per minute pump.
Councilman Monahan-As, I've looked at your notes here and frankly I didn't see these until just now, I'm
referring back to the Bean. I will only say this from being in a construction firm that used a lot of heavy
equipment. To me it looks like the money you've put in that the last year or so and any money you put in
the future is money right down the whole.
Mr. Mellon-Basically.
Councilman Monahan-To me the only question is not should you keep that piece of equipment, I think it's
not cost effective to keep it. The question is are you over buying or are you buying the right on the new
piece of equipment or do we need to have so much equipment in each fire company. As far as I'm
concerned where I'm coming from individually. I don't even want to talk about the seventy-four, seventy-
five, I think its already paid for itself many times in its use we ought to just cancel that one out.
Mr. Mellon-Agreed.
Councilman Monahan-That's a platform from thereon that my thoughts are.
Councilman Caimano-Maybe we can bring this thing to a fine point, I agree with Mrs. Monahan. What
really is happening here is that we're caught in two things. The Board has set a goal to try and get a grasp
of what we're doing in emergency services. We have pledged to ourselves as well as to the Town folks that
we're going to put together some kind of an apparatus to do just that. As with any kind of a change over in
policies or procedures some time someone gets caught in the middle and that's where you are. I understand
that, respect that, and I don't want you in the middle. What I am willing to offer is a bit of a compromise
here. We are going to in a very few minutes take up the probability of bringing a professional on, to work
with the Town Board to help us with those questions that we don't know the answers to or the right way of
answering. One of the things that we could do is to promise you that tomorrow morning if that goes
through the first thing to be worked on would be your truck. I don't want to say no to the truck. I recognize
your caught in the middle, I recognize that we are, too. We're trying to find the best answer out for the
Town's people frankly and that's where it is Chip that's exactly where it is.
Supervisor Champagne-I'll speak on that also. I have to tell you that as a resident of Bay Ridge one who
lives on the direct route between the emergency locations and one forty nine, I can reassure you and
everyone here tonight that the numbers probably are less over the past ten or fifteen years then they will be
in the future as far as one forty nine is concerned that's why I recognize the value of what we have in Bay
Ridge. But, I also have to be honest with you when I say that the emergency services as well as every other
department in the Town of Queensbury with this new Board is going under some pretty tight scrutiny.
Accountability is here ladies and gentlemen and that's really what we're all about here this evening. We're
asking for some time if you will to really totally and thoroughly examine our emergency services
throughout the Town. Believe me that's not to say there is anything wrong with what we're doing. It's
merely to say this Town Board is anxious to learn a little bit more about what's happening out there in the
field the pressure is there from the public and the taxpayer. I just want to reassure you that we're not here
to throw up a red flag or to throw a stop sign up in front. But, it's merely to say to you that as Nick
indicated we've been through sessions with the emergency services group and we looked at a committee
that might come in and do an analysis and do a study. I believe as Nick indicated just a moment ago that
we're at a point now where perhaps an expert, specialist that we can rely on can ask the right questions that
can further examine what's put there and how we can best service the Town while at the same time doing it
in a most cost effective way. Again, it's not to say that there is anything that squandered out there, it's
merely to say that it's the position that this Board in 1994 has taken. We're out of the roaring eighty's when
the bucks were there. We're into some tight nineties, I think we have to recognize that. In that recognition
we're merely trying to do our job while at the same time we provide the kind of service through your efforts
and I appalled you for those efforts. Believe me, I've used you on a number of occasions myself so I know
from where I speak, so that's the position of the Supervisor. I think time is critical and I think that we need
to take another hard look at it through the microscope and really get an analysis of where we're at.
Attorney Pontiff-We appreciate your concern and understand where the Board is coming from with respect
to fiscal responsibility. We want to make sure that the Board understands that we're dealing with two
problems. We're dealing with the necessity to replace a dilapidated piece of equipment, three problems
actually. The necessity to lock in a price which has been provided to us and not increased as of a couple of
days ago and we can't guarantee that in any way, shape, or form. Nick you and I talked earlier today the
figure is actually fourteen thousand and not four thousand which would be the price increase on that
pumper if they increase the price of parts on us. Thirdly, how long the bank will allow that interest rate to
stand because that all factors into the total cost of this piece of equipment over a period of time. I think we
understand your concern, we understand that you want to seek some professional advise, I think that's
worthwhile. We also want to make sure that we understand that you'll address this question without
waiting for an overall examination of the fire service and the EMS services in the Town of Queensbury
because we can't wait that long.
Councilman Caimano-Correct me if I'm wrong, we would not wait that long we're talking about days.
We're not talking about waiting until we go through all the emergency services. As I said to you if we can
compromise this tonight the way I see it assuming that things follow through with the professional that's the
first job this person would be on and would be on it tomorrow morning. Then come to us with a
recommendation and say, yes go ahead and do this or a recommendation with alternatives or whatever. He
would talk to you first absent us completely, but ask the questions from a prospective of someone who
knows all of the questions to ask. As Betty just said a few minutes ago, I'm with her a hundred percent I
know you need a truck, I don't know the questions to ask though. You gave me this beautiful report I'm
still a novice absent Dr. Wiswall, I don't know any of us who are qualified enough to do that job properly.
Councilman Wiswall-I don't know any reason to pay a person fifty dollars an hour to come up and look at
your situation. You certainly are professional enough to know what you need and what you are eventually
going to get. I thought when this matter came up soon after I came on the Board that it could be easily
resolved by exempting Bay Ridge purchase of the truck from this overall study that we have to do which
hasn't got any place in three months and isn't going to get any place tonight by pointing one person to do it.
If this Board would just exempt your fire company on the purchase of this truck and give you the okay to
go get it and then let them go out and investigate how you spend your money, what you got for equipment,
what you might need in the future and all that. I hate to see you folks jerked around like this, frankly. I
thought Nick more less agreed with me that we could exempt this purchase. You know you started this
about two years ago it isn't something that you just dreamt up overnight this year.
Attorney Pontiff-That's a good point. This is not something that's come up overnight its been on going for
some period of time. It has been investigated for a long period of time and put out to bids with a careful
selection of specifications that the company has put together and the people who are familiar with what the
needs are. I don't think that was done on there...it was done with some advise by other people who are
knowledgeable in the area. I agree with Dr. Wiswall that it's something realizing that other people are
going to come along somewhere in the near future and say, we need this or we need that. But, at the
moment we're sitting here right in the mist of the stream without a paddle on either side of us and we're
forced now to have to wait another period of time. I don't want to push this to a vote if it's going to go to a
no vote because I don't want to have to go through a public hearing again and create that kind of expense
and time exposure and go on for another fourteen days. As you know the notice for that public hearing is
fourteen day period required under the code. If we go through this and have to go through it all over again
then we're just going to be down the road another two weeks or longer and that's going to create a lot more
problems in terms of the financing fee and terms of the cost of the equipment.
Councilman Monahan-Nick are you and Carol willing to make a commitment that Bay Ridge will have
their answer within one week?
Councilman Caimano-Absolutely.
Councilman Pulver-I'm not sure I'm ready to make that commitment since I haven't talked to the
professional to find out whether or not....
Councilman Caimano-No, she just said an answer.
Councilman Monahan-I will make the commitment that within one week...
Councilman Caimano-I'll make a commitment absolutely.
Supervisor Champagne-Yes or no on the fire truck?
Councilman Monahan-Absolutely.
Councilman Caimano-Absolutely.
Councilman Pulver-On this fire truck?
Councilman Caimano-On this fire truck, absolutely. I'm willing to make a commitment.
Attorney Pontiff-Do you have a scheduled meeting next Monday night?
Councilman Caimano- Yes.
Councilman Monahan-Yes.
Councilman Pulver-We have a workshop.
Councilman Wiswall- Y our talking about hiring a professional. Does the Board have to approve the acting
on that or is that your decision?
Councilman Caimano-No that's a Board action.
Councilman Wiswall-So maybe we don't want to hire a professional.
Councilman Caimano- Then we go right back at it and make a decision.
Councilman Wiswall-Maybe we want to open it up and talk with some other professionals.
Councilman Caimano- That's true.
Councilman Pulver-That's the next discussion.
Councilman Wiswall-Listen a week isn't going to amount to a dam.
You can't make your mind up in two months here how are you going to make it up in a week?
Councilman Monahan-Doc, I'm just trying to get something off dead center. If I can get a commitment
from Nick and Carol that they will bring this to a vote a week from tonight I'll wait for the week.
Councilman Caimano- Y ou have it.
Supervisor Champagne-Anyone else? I'll close that public hearing and we will be acting on it during the
week and we'll be here next Monday night with an answer for you.
Attorney Pontiff-This will be on the agenda next Monday night?
Supervisor Champagne-Yes it will.
Councilman Wiswall-That's a workshop.
Councilman Monahan-That's a workshop, but because that, it's a carryover we can do it.
Councilman Caimano- I'll say this too, Betty and Doc. If as a result of the discussion tonight we can't
decide on the professional I'm willing to either tonight or tomorrow night at a special meeting to bring it
back up if that so happens.
Councilman Monahan-I don't want Bay Ridge to get the idea they are going to get stalled on this.
Councilman Caimano- No.
Attorney Pontiff-I think if we have the commitment of the Town Board to address this question within the
course of the next week that doesn't make everybody happy, but at least we don't go away mad and it is
something we can live with. But, if we can't get that commitment then I think that presents some problems.
Councilman Monahan-I think you have a guarantee, I'm sure. Fred can I speak for you?
Supervisor Champagne-No don't speak for me, please.
Attorney Pontiff-You are the Supervisor and your the one who has to put it in the agenda.
Supervisor Champagne-I understand and it will be on the agenda.
Councilman Monahan-Let's put it this way it will be called for a vote.
Attorney Pontiff-Let me ask one other question. Let's suppose that the Board does not approve a
professional tonight the authorization to hire a professional how do we address that question? Are we
going to address this question after that vote if that vote goes down the drain?
Councilman Caimano-My answer to you is if all of you are here I wouldn't mind bringing it back up. But,
if by that time if everybody is gone then I don't think it's fair to you to bring that question up without you
being in attendance.
Attorney Pontiff-I think we'll stay if that's a matter that could be re-brought up on the agenda if that's
appropriate terminology.
Councilman Caimano-No problem right Paul?
Attorney Dusek-Legally you can certainly.
Councilman Wiswall-Wish you would stay to here more about it.
Attorney Pontiff-Thank you.
Supervisor Champagne-Thank you. Anyone else?
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
PUBLIC HEARING
LOCAL LAW - ADVISORY BOARDS
NOTICE SHOWN
OPENED
Supervisor Champagne-Brief us on that Paul?
Attorney Dusek-This is a proposed Local Law that would basically provide legislative authority for the
Town Board to create Advisory Boards for purposes of advising the Town Board. The legislation in front
of you has one segment of it that authorizes these types of Boards and basically says that after this law is
passed the Town Board by mere resolution can create Advisory Boards. It also indicates that the purpose
and authority of the Advisory Boards shall be strictly advisory only and that they cannot exercise any
powers on behalf of the Town or Town Board. The law also sets forth a structure for Advisory Boards. It
identifies what Officers there shall be which is basically Chairperson, Vice Chairperson, Secretary.
Identifies the fact that all members of the Advisory Board will be voting. Sets forth a term of the office to
coincide with the terms of the Town Board. It basically indicates the Town Board may fill vacancies and it
also identifies the procedures the Advisory Boards should follow in terms of when they shall meet, type of
notice that will be required of any of their meetings. Basically although there are a number of revisions
probably the most important would be that they would be opened to the public and that they would follow
the standard freedom of information laws that are applicable to the Town. They require written minutes
will be kept. They provide for Robert Rules Of Order as far as procedure and also require the filing of
minutes. Finally the law also provides for removal of Advisory Board members, abolishment of the Board
if it should be necessary. It also provides that the Board members shall serve without pay although the
Town may compensate them for out of pocket expenses if they first obtain the permission of the Town
Board.
Supervisor Champagne-Anyone here to speak on behalf or against the Advisory Board resolution?
Connie Goedert-II Centennial Drive. I understand and am open minded enough to understand what you
are trying to do with the Advisory Board. My concern on this matter is that you were elected to represent
the people of this community that is your job to make the decisions. Your Advisory Board would be the
taxpayers of this community. I can understand that you might not have the knowledge as in to deciding at a
decision as per say the fire truck whatever, but, it is up to the person or people that are bringing you those
items to educate you in that matter. I'm very concerned as a taxpayers that if I brought an issue before the
Town Board that you needed to be educated on that you would name an Advisory Board it's added
government, it's delayed government. You people were elected by the majority of the people of this
community that means they gave you their trust in you to make the proper decisions for their best interest.
If they disagree with that or approve of that their body should be sitting in this meeting to make that known.
Therefore, I hate the thought of having to go through a Committee or an Advisory Board to bring it to the
Town Board it's unnecessary you people are open, I can talk to any single one of you. If I have an issue
that you feel that you need to be educated I can give you those pro's and con's on my issue. The added
government and the delay in the government is unnecessary.
Councilman Caimano-It's unfortunate and I'm sorry this came out this way, but you are going at this the
backwards way. It is not our intent to escape anything. The fact of the matter is that we had many
Committees in Town that were totally illegal and we are trying to have a vehicle that makes them if in fact
they are appointed a legal entity. It is not our intent to create Boards at all. It is our intent to say that any
Boards that are created must be legal and be through this format. I agree with you a hundred percent on
what you say. It is not our intent to try and escape anything it's unfortunate we didn't really explain this...
Mrs. Goedert-I was at the previous Town Board meeting when this resolution was brought up. We're
sitting back here as lay people this is brought up to name a public hearing, no information is put out as to
why any of this is being done.
Councilman Caimano- Y our absolutely right. Although, I have to say that when we set the public hearing
we said that, but there wasn't this crowd that was in the room. But, the purpose is not to escape anything
the purpose is to legalize things. If you remember a couple of years back there were some committee's
investigating this it turns out they had no legal standing. In order to make them have legal standing we
created a vehicle that's all this is.
Mrs. Goedert -So are we creating a vehicle to name new Advisory Boards?
Councilman Caimano-Not at all.
Mrs. Goedert -So this is only to put those committees into law there are no new Advisory Boards going to
be made?
Councilman Caimano- There may be.
Supervisor Champagne-There may be.
Councilman Caimano-I don't know that, but that's not what this is for. It's certainly not for the Fire
Committee if that's what your thinking.
Mrs. Goedert-No, I'm not.
Councilman Pulver-We have a Master Plan Committee that's going to be forming. We had one in 1988 for
the old Master Plan and this will fall under this as it will be a Advisory Committee to do the Zoning
Ordinance and everything over. To just have that Committee now without this law makes it illegal.
Supervisor Champagne-Let me add another item that I think is important. For example the Environmental
and Beautification Committees that have been established for some time they meet some times they don't
meet at all. There is really little input that's coming from these committees into the Town Board. I think
this Board believes that they should have some stature within the organization. There should be input
coming from those committees we should be making reference back to those people. If they are going to
be there and they have been established then they should have some legal rights and privileges. To me it
adds structure to what's now unstructured.
Councilman Caimano-Beautification Committee is a good example.
Supervisor Champagne-Environmental the same thing.
Councilman Caimano- That's a Committee formed by the Town. They also work hand in hand for example
with the Friends of Hovey Pond which has no standing whatsoever as far as legality is concerned. That's
all this is for and I'm sorry that we made people misunderstand this.
Mrs. Goedert-Just to take it one step further in the previous conversation in reference to Bay Ridges Fire
Truck it was mentioned that we were going to have an Advisory Board with a Fire Engineer on it some
professional that's going to be able to ask the right question. Is this a new created position a new Advisory
Board?
Councilman Caimano- No.
Mrs. Goedert -This is something totally different?
Councilman Caimano- Totally different. Paul do you want to say anything to it at all?
Attorney Dusek-The only comment, I might make is that this law was not written with the Beautification
Committee in mind and I should make that as a note to the Board at this point. The Beautification
Committee as I understand it primarily services the Planning Board and if there is a question as to the ... of
that particular Committee we should probably investigate that.
Councilman Monahan-I think the one I might bring out that was active and is still active right now, Fred
you meet with them it's the North Queensbury Sewer Committee that was gathering a lot of data. About
whether or not there is a need for one up there, what are some of the best options. It really was kind of so
that we were not completely at the mercy of the engineers that were hired to take a look at that and to get
some lay people who also had some expertise in that field get some knowledge back from them and they
put in a good many hours. I don't think people realize maybe what kind of hours some of these Committees
put in. The last Committee that worked on the Comprehensive Master Plan had over twenty seven hundred
hours of work on that. It's pretty hard to put in as a Town Board twenty seven hundred hours on top of the
job your already doing because there is not many hours in the week, believe me. What they do is gather
information sift it out give it to us in a condensed form after they have done all the pros and cons this is the
way a lot of these Committees work they do a lot of spade work for us.
Supervisor Champagne-Yes, John.
Mr. Salvador-With regard to this local law is it clear that these Committees will not be costing the town any
money other than these incidental expenses?
Attorney Dusek-It's very clear under the law. First of all the law specifically says the members will not be
paid. Beyond that though it even says although there is a possibility of paying photocopy costs, typing etc.,
there must first be Town Board approval so even the law doesn't approve it. First they have to come to the
Town Board and request the authorization for that so that there is a double assurance if you will money will
not be spent without the Town Board first authorizing it.
Mr. Salvador-Is there any protection we can have that the people who serve on these Advisory Boards have
some kind of qualifications either by experience, education, or registration?
Attorney Dusek-I think the assurances there again are in place because it's the Town Board that will
ultimately if they set up a Committee identify the Committee the purpose of the Committee and then make
the selection of the members. It will vest with the Town Board to set it up and abolish it if it's not working
the way they think it should.
Mr. Salvador-In the absent of this Advisory Board or any number of them, I as a private citizen have
certain rights, privileges, and immunities visa v the Town Board and you have certain powers. If your
going to give this Advisory Board standing, powers, authorizations, which side of the isle are they going to
take them from your side or my side?
Councilman Caimano- Their side.
Mr. Salvador-Pardon me?
Supervisor Champagne-Their side.
Councilman Caimano- That's the answer, I don't know what to tell you.
Mr. Salvador-Their side? Right now all of the powers, privileges, and immunities either belong to me or to
you.
Supervisor Champagne-Or belong to they.
Mr. Salvador-They aren't here yet.
Supervisor Champagne-But, that's what we're talking about John.
Mr. Salvador-But, if you put them in place and you give them something you've got to take it from
somewhere. Are you going to take it from your side of the isle or my side?
Councilman Caimano-I don't agree with that at all.
Attorney Dusek-I don't think it all happens. First of all the law is very clear that the Boards are advisory
only they have no Town Board powers whatsoever and they cannot commit the Town to any course of
action so they clearly do not take it away from the Town Board. They also though do not take anything
away from the citizens because the open format of the Town Board meeting will still stay the same.
Citizens will still have the right obviously to talk to their counsel people and contact the counsel people.
The only thing these Committees do if you will is basically serve as a source of additional information as
they traditional have in the past as was mentioned with the Master Plan Committee when that was
previously set up to assist the Town with the review of the Ordinance. It did not take away any of the
Town Boards power to do the amendment of the Zoning Ordinance nor did it take away any member of the
publics ability to come and speak out on the issues at public hearings everything is still required. As, I see
it this is another vehicle that just serves as an information source to the Town Board should they desire to
use it.
Mr. Salvador-It won't be a screen for the Town Board?
Supervisor Champagne-Absolutely not.
Councilman Monahan-John if you remember the Committee that did the last Master Plan their
recommendations were not taken one hundred percent. They were based on, which the Town then started
to work on the new Comprehensive Land Use Plan. If you were here the another night when Dave
Hodgson did his presentation on the proposed bike way that they would like to push that was the
Environmental Committee that was doing that went out and did the spade work on it and came back with
that information in that stage.
Mr. Salvador-But as these Committees work, the dye is being cast.
Councilman Monahan-I don't agree with you John. It's just like any organization....
Councilman Caimano- Y ou served on a Committee.
Councilman Monahan-Research people that are going out and doing research. We do it in the League of
Women Voters you do it in every organization there is. You give a group certain things to go out and bring
the knowledge back to the body. If they are doing their job right they should bring pro's and con's.
Mr. Salvador-If.
Councilman Monahan-If they are not then we don't have to pay any attention to them. We ought to have
common sense enough to judge that.
Supervisor Champagne-John, it's my strong feeling that the more people you can get involved in
government through intense work and thorough examination of how a particular issue is being
accomplished to me that's open government and that's the way we want to get things done.
Mr. Salvador-Mrs. Monahan used an example of the North Queensbury Sewer Committee. That
Committee was just a smoke screen for the real problem. That Committee was a delaying tactic on behalf
of the Warren County Board of Supervisors that's all it did.
Councilman Caimano-Dr. Wiswall wanted to know if you wanted a copy of this?
Mr. Salvador-No.
Supervisor Champagne-Anyone else care to speak for or against? Counsel people?
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
The following resolutions were passed.
RESOLUTION TO ENACT LOCAL LAW NUMBER 3, 1994
A LOCAL LAW TO AMEND THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
BY ADDING A NEW CHAPTER 3, TO BE ENTITLED "ADVISORY BOARDS",
WHICH CHAPTER SHALL PROVIDE FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF
ADVISORY BOARDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF
ACTING IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY TO THE TOWN BOARD
OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
RESOLUTION NO. 167,94
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is desirous of enacting a local law to
amend the Code of the Town of Queensbury by adding a new Chapter 3, to be entitled "Advisory Boards",
which Chapter shall provide for the establishment of advisory boards for the purpose of acting in an
advisory capacity to the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, a copy of the proposed local law entitled "A Local Law to Amend the Code of the
Town of Queensbury, By Adding a New Chapter 3, to be Entitled 'Advisory Boards''', has been presented at
this meeting, a copy of said local law also having been previously given to the Town Board at the time the
Resolution was adopted which set a date and time for a public hearing, and
WHEREAS, on April 4, 1994, a public hearing with regard to this local law was duly conducted,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby determines that the
adoption of this Local Law is a Type II action under the terms and provisions of the regulations adopted by
the Department of Environmental Conservation in accordance with the State Environmental Quality
Review Act, and
BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby enacts the proposed Local
Law to amend the Code of the Town of Queensbury, by adding a new Chapter 3, to be entitled "Advisory
Boards", which Chapter shall provide for the establishment of advisory boards for the purpose of acting in
an advisory capacity to the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, which Local Law shall be known as
Local Law No.3, 1994, the same to be titled and contain such provisions as are set forth in the copy of the
proposed local law presented at this meeting, and
BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED, that the Town Clerk of the Town of Queensbury is hereby directed to file the said
Local Law with the New York State Secretary of State in accordance with the provisions of the Municipal
Home Rule Law and that said Local Law will take effect immediately and as soon as allowable under law.
Duly adopted this 4th day of April, 1994, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Caimano, Mrs. Pulver, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
ABSTAIN:Dr. Wiswall
LOCAL LAW NO. 3, 1994
A LOCAL LAW TO AMEND THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY,
BY ADDING A NEW CHAPTER 3, TO BE ENTITLED "ADVISORY BOARDS",
WHICH CHAPTER SHALL PROVIDE FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF
ADVISORY BOARDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF
ACTING IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY TO THE TOWN BOARD
OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
BE IT ENACTED BY THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY AS
FOLLOWS:
SECTION 1. The Code of the Town of Queensbury is hereby amended by adding thereto a
new Chapter 3, to be known as "Advisory Boards," to read as follows:
~ 3 -1. Purpose and Intent.
The Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby determines that organized advisory boards
can provide important and useful information and ideas to the Town Board when it is reviewing and
considering appropriate action or policy with regard to Town issues, functions and/or projects. Advisory
boards can assist the Town Board by reviewing, researching and gathering information and presenting such
information, findings and/or recommendations, ideas and opinions to the Town Board. Further, a formal
and organized advisory board can provide a vehicle for interested citizens to share their ideas and expertise
with the Town Board. Such boards would also provide vehicles for interested citizens to have more of an
involvement in their community. In view of the foregoing, it is the Town Board's determination that
advisory boards can assist and benefit the Town Board, as well as the entire community.
~ 3-2. Title.
This chapter shall be known as and entitled, "Advisory Boards."
~ 3-3. Statutory Authority.
The Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby identifies Municipal Home Rule ~1O (1)(i) as
authority for the enactment of this Local Law. Although it is not believed that this Local Law supersedes
any particular provision of the Town Law, it is noted that Town Law ~64 (17) provides for citizens
advisory committees on capital improvements and the Suburban Town Law provides for appointment of
advisory boards, but general authority for the appointment of advisory boards is not found in the Town
Law. With regard to Town Law ~64(17) and the Suburban Town Law, it is noted that the Town Board
does have, if necessary to refer to it, supersession authority pursuant to Municipal Home Rule Law ~ 10(1)
(ii)(d)(3).
~ 3-4. Authorization to Establish Advisory Boards by Resolution.
The Town Board of the Town of Queensbury may, by resolution and subject to the provisions set
forth in this Local Law, establish advisory boards.
~ 3-5. Purpose and Authority of Advisory Board.
A. Advisory Boards shall act in an advisory capacity only, to the Town Board. The
members shall not be empowered to exercise any powers on behalf of the Town Board or bind the Town
Board or the Town of Queensbury in any way.
B. The purpose for which the Advisory Board is created and for which it shall meet and hold
discussions shall be for the purpose of reviewing, researching, gathering information, and presenting such
information, findings, and/or recommendations, ideas, and opinions to the Town Board concerning such
matters as the Town Board shall, with particularity, specify in the Resolution establishing the Advisory
Board.
~ 3-6. Number of Members on Advisory Boards, Officers, Voting Rights, Terms of Office,
Qualifications.
A. Advisory Boards shall be comprised of members who are residents of the Town of
Queensbury and who have such qualifications as may be determined to be appropriate by the Town Board
of the Town of Queensbury, except that no person who is a member of the Town Board shall be a member
of an advisory board.
B. Advisory boards shall consist of that number of members that the Town Board shall
determine by resolution to be appropriate in each instance that an advisory board is established. In
determining the appropriate number of members, the Town Board may use any formula it feels is
appropriate and may, from time to time, by resolution, adopted by majority vote, increase or decrease the
number of members it deems necessary or appropriate, except that a decrease in the number of members
shall not take effect until the expiration of the terms of the current board members and, therefore, shall not
result in a removal of any member before the expiration of a term.
C. Officers shall be named for the advisory board and shall have the duties as follows:
(1) A Chairperson shall be named and shall have the duty of calling meetings, as set
forth in this article and shall also preside over all meetings.
(2) The Chairperson shall be selected by the sitting members, except that, upon
failure of the sitting members to do so, or agree upon a chairman within 60 days of the establishment of the
advisory board, or the resignation or lapse of term of the chairman therefor, the Town Board shall select a
chairman from anyone of the members of the board.
(3) The Advisory Board may elect from among its members, a Vice Chairperson
and Secretary.
D. All members of the advisory board, including Officers, will be voting members.
E. Terms of office and vacancies shall be filled as follows:
(1) Any person who is appointed as a member of the Advisory Board shall hold
office until the first day of January next succeeding the first bi-annual Town election held after the time of
that person's appointment. On the first day of January next succeeding the first bi-annual Town election
held after the time of the establishment of the Advisory Board and biannually thereafter, the Town Board
shall appoint members to the Advisory Board who shall hold office for two years.
(2) If a vacancy shall occur on the Advisory Board, otherwise then by expiration of
a term, the Town Board shall appoint a new member for the unexpired term.
~ 3-7. Procedures of the Advisory Boards.
A. The Advisory Board shall meet at least quarterly, or at such other intervals as the Town
Board shall require or specify by Resolution, at the call of the Chairperson. Additional meetings may be
called upon at least five days notice by the Chairperson or by petition of five members of the Board.
B. All meetings of the Advisory Board shall be held on notice to the Town Board, which
shall receive the same notice as is given members of the Advisory Board and the members of the aforesaid
Town Board shall be entitled, as of right, to attend any meeting called, whether the same is open or in
executive session, provided, however, that members of the Town Board shall not be considered members of
the Advisory Board and shall not be entitled to vote on any matter before the Advisory Board.
C. All meetings of the Advisory Board shall be open to the public, except that executive
sessions will be allowed to the extent permissible under the Public Officers Law of the State of New York;
D. Public notice of every meeting held by the Advisory Board shall be given in accordance
with the applicable provisions of the Public Officers Law of the State of New York while notice to
members shall be given in accordance with the provisions set forth hereinabove.
E. Written minutes shall be kept of the meetings of each Advisory Board. Motions,
resolutions, and votes thereon shall be recorded in their entirety. Discussions occurring at the meetings or
leading to motions or resolutions may be briefly summarized.
F. The Advisory Board shall operate in accordance with Robert's Rules of Order or in
accordance with any agreed upon variation thereof, which may include any modification or elimination of
such rules as may be agreed upon by unanimous vote of all Board members.
G. Each Advisory Board shall file a copy of any minutes, reports, or other information or
records gathered by the Board as a result of meetings held during December of each year.
H. When requested, the Chairperson or other designated member of the Advisory Board
shall report directly to the Town Board in either writing or by attendance at a Town Board meeting, as may
be agreed upon by the members of the Town Board by resolution.
I. Any recommendation or other resolutions of the advisory board will be deemed binding
and a representation of the board, only if adopted by majority vote of the total number of members of the
advisory board.
~ 3-8. Appropriations for Advisory Boards.
Advisory Board members shall serve without pay. The Town Board may authorize the payment
of the just and reasonable actual expenses of the members of such Advisory Board, such expenses
including the cost of photocopying, typing, and if necessary, mileage. No payment of the just and
reasonable actual expenses of the members or any other payments shall be made to the members of the
Advisory Board, unless the Town Board shall have, by resolution adopted by majority vote, approved of
the incurring of the expense prior to the time that the expense was incurred.
~ 3-9. Removal of Advisory Board Members.
The Town Board shall have the power to remove, after public hearing, any member of the
Advisory Board for cause.
~ 3-10. Abolishment of Advisory Board
The Town Board of the Town of Queensbury shall have the right, at any time, to abolish any
board established by resolution in accordance with this legislation.
SECTION 2.
Severability .
In the event that any word, term, or provision of this Local Law should be determined by a court
of law to be unenforceable, illegal, or void, then the Local Law shall be read as if said word, term, or
provision were deleted therefrom.
SECTION 3.
Effective Date.
This Local Law shall become effective immediately upon filing in the Office of the Secretary of
State of the State of New York.
RESOLUTIONS
RESOLUTION APPROVING MINUTES
RESOLUTION NO. 168, 94
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Fred Champagne
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby approves the minutes of March 7th
and 14th, 1994.
Duly adopted this 4th day of April, 1994, by the following vote:
Ayes: Dr. Wiswall, Mr. Caimano, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr.
Champagne
Noes: None
Absent:None
RESOLUTION TO SET PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED LOCAL LAW
REGULATING PARKING ON RICHARDSON STREET
IN THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
RESOLUTION NO.: 169,94
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHEREAS, at this meeting there has been presented for adoption by the Town Board of the Town
of Queensbury, a Local Law which would provide for the regulating of parking on the east side of
Richardson Street in the Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, such legislation is authorized pursuant to the Town Law, Vehicle and Traffic Law,
and the Municipal Home Rule Law of the State of New York, and
WHEREAS, before the Town Board may take action with regard to the proposed Local Law, it is
necessary to conduct a public hearing on said proposed Local Law,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the proposed action is determined to be a Type II Action under the rules and
regulations of the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation relative to SEQRA, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED AND ORDERED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury shall meet and
hold a public hearing at the Queensbury Activities Center, 531 Bay Road, Queensbury, Warren County,
New York at 7:00 p.m., on the 18th day of April, 1994, to consider said proposed Local Law and to hear all
persons interested on the subject matter thereof concerning the same and to take such action thereon as is
required or authorized by law, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED AND ORDERED, that the Town Clerk of the Town of Queensbury is hereby
directed to publish and post the notice that has also been presented at this meeting concerning the proposed
Local Law in the manner provided by law.
Duly adopted this 4th day of April, 1994, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Caimano, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Dr. Wiswall, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION TO AMEND 1994 BUDGET
RESOLUTION NO.: 170,94
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Fred Champagne
WHEREAS, certain departments have requested transfers of funds for the 1994 Budget, and
WHEREAS, said requests have been approved by the Chief Fiscal Officer,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the funds be transferred as follows, for the 1994 budget:
ACCOUNTING:
FROM:
TO:
AMOUNT:
01-1990-4400
(Contingency Account)
01-1310-4090
(Conference Expense)
410.00
PLANNING:
FROM:
TO:
AMOUNT:
1-1345-1150
(Purchasing Agent)
1-8020-4130
(Legal Services)
5,000.00
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the 1994 Town Budget is hereby amended accordingly.
Duly adopted this 4th day of April, 1994, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Dr. Wiswall, Mr. Caimano, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING INTERFUND ADVANCES
RESOLUTION NO.: 171,94
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Fred Champagne
WHEREAS, pursuant to Section 9-A of the General Municipal Law of the State of New York, the
Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is authorized to temporarily advance moneys held in any fund to
any other fund,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes the temporary
advance of funds to the accounts or funds indicated, and in the amounts indicated, as set forth below:
FROM:
TO: $ AMOUNT
40 - Queensbury Water
Fund
76 - Quaker Road Sewer 2,500.00
Capital Project
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor, as Chief Fiscal Officer, is hereby authorized and directed
to arrange for and accomplish the above-authorized transfers, and temporary advances, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor, as Chief Fiscal Officer, shall keep suitable records and
arrange for the repayment of the temporary advances as soon as available, and in the case of loans from
funds generated from differing tax bases, the Town Supervisor shall also determine the amount of interest,
if any, to be paid, upon repayment, with the amount of interest to be equal to the amount that would have
been earned on the investment of moneys in the Fund making the advance, had the advance not been made.
Duly adopted this 4th day of April, 1994, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Monahan, Dr. Wiswall, Mr. Caimano, Mrs. Pulver, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION AMENDING RES. 149, 94 CONCERNING
RETAINING THE SERVICES OF HUDSON ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, INC.
RESOLUTION NO.: 172,94
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Fred Champagne
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury previously adopted resolution no. 149,
94 to retain the services of Hudson Environmental Services, Inc., said services to be paid for from
"Account No.: 92-8160-4400," and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury desires to amend said resolution such
that the services should be paid for from the "Landfill Closure Capital Project Fund (#92),"
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby amends resolution no. 149,
94, to read as set forth hereinabove.
Duly adopted this 4th day of April, 1994, by the following vote:
AYES: Dr. Wiswall, Mr. Caimano, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SETTLEMENT OF PENDING ARTICLE 7
TAX ASSESSMENT REVIEW CASES
RESOLUTION NO.: 173,94
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Fred Champagne
WHEREAS, certain Article 7 Real Property Tax Assessment Review Cases have been
commenced against the Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury has reviewed the tax assessment review
cases with the legal counsel for the Town of Queensbury, such counsel and the Town Assessor having
made recommendations to the Town Board,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby approves and authorizes
settlement of the following cases with respect to the 1993 assessment rolls as indicated and as follows:
Name
Tax Map No.:
Charles R. Wood
98-2-1
Charles R. Wood
98-3-1
Charles R. Wood
98-3-5
shall be consolidated into one parcel, with a tax identification number to be assigned by the Town Assessor
or Warren County, and the new assessment to be $109,100.00, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby approves and authorizes settlement of the following
cases with respect to the 1993 assessment rolls as indicated and as follows:
Name
Tax Map No.:
New Assessment:
Charles R. Wood
98-4-5
$ 5,000
Meadow Run Dev. Corp. 36-2-13
No change
Storytown USA, Inc.
72-6-27.2
$150,000
Charles R. Wood
98-5-4.1
$200,000
Meadow Run Dev. Corp. 30-1-57
$ 45,000
Meadow Run Dev. Corp. 145-1-5
$ 53,500
Meadow Run Dev. Corp. 34-2-2
and
No change
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Attorney is hereby authorized to enter into such stipulations and
request such court orders as may be necessary to resolve the assessment cases referred to herein.
Duly adopted this 4th day of April, 1994, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Caimano, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Dr. Wiswall, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TOWN SUPERVISOR TO MAKE FORMAL
DETERMINATIONS REGARDING REQUESTS FOR RETROACTIVE MEMBERSHIP
UNDER RETIREMENT AND SOCIAL SECURITY LAW ~803 AND
ESTABLISHING A FORMAL REVIEW PROCESS
RESOLUTION NO.: 174,94
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Fred Champagne
WHEREAS, the New York State Retirement and Social Security Law was revised by the State
Legislature, such that provisions were added authorizing the granting of retroactive transfer, retroactive
membership, and credit for previous service in certain situations, and
WHEREAS, the New York State and Local Retirement System has advised the Town that as a
participating employer, there are a number of things that must be done to help employees seeking to claim
benefits under the aforesaid legislative amendments, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board acknowledges that among the things that must be accomplished
pursuant to the Retirement and Social Security Law is the authorization of someone in the organization to
make formal determinations regarding requests for retroactive membership under ~803 and the
establishment of a formal review process within the organization to receive and review applications
submitted for retroactive membership,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes and directs the
following:
1. The Town Supervisor shall be the person authorized in the Town of Queensbury to make
formal determinations and findings regarding requests for retroactive membership as required by ~803 of
the New York State Retirement and Social Security Law;
2. The Town Supervisor shall cause to be posted and circulated to all Town employees, the
information that the Town has been provided about Article 18. The Town Supervisor shall cause to be
stated in any notices, that to apply for any benefits under Article 18 of the Retirement and Social Security
Law, the employee must have been a member of the New York State and Local Retirement System on
March 31, 1993 and that a member application for retroactive membership under ~803 of the Retirement
and Social Security Law be obtained by contacting the Town Supervisor's office;
3. The following formal review process is hereby established within the Town of
Queensbury in connection with requests for retroactive membership under Retirement and Social Security
Law ~803:
A. The review process shall be commenced by an employee (defined to be as
contemplated by the New York State Retirement and Social Security Law) filing a member application for
retroactive membership pursuant to ~803 of the Retirement and Social Security Law and filing the
appropriate part of the application with the Town Supervisor;
B. Upon receipt, the Town Supervisor shall issue a written letter or memo to the
employee indicating receipt of the aforesaid application and advise the employee of any other information
that the Supervisor feels is necessary to assist in his/her review of the matter, including any evidence that
the employee has, as to whether he/she was given the opportunity to join the Retirement System when
beginning employment with the Town of Queensbury;
C. Upon receipt of the application and requested information from the employee,
the Town Supervisor shall review the application, as well as any Town records that may offer further
information regarding the application and the information necessary to complete employee determination
and affidavit required by the New York Retirement and Social Security Law ~803. In connection with the
review, the Supervisor may request any additional information he/she deems necessary or appropriate from
the New York State Retirement System;
D. After the Town Supervisor has reviewed the application, together with any
Town records or other information he/she shall deem pertinent, he/she shall then consolidate all
information and provide an opportunity for the employee to review the same and also provide the employee
an opportunity to present written and/or oral evidence in support of the application and to attempt to
establish that he/she was never given the option of joining the Retirement System. In the event that oral
evidence is submitted, the Town Supervisor shall keep notes summarizing the type of oral evidence
submitted to himlher by the employee;
E. Upon compliance with the aforesaid process, the Town Supervisor shall then
complete an Employer Determination and Affidavit, pursuant to ~803 of the Retirement and Social Security
Law. A copy of the Employer Determination and Affidavit shall be furnished to the New York State and
Local Retirement System, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury and the Employee.
Duly adopted this 4th day of April, 1994, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Dr. Wiswall, Mr. Caimano, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING WITHDRAWAL OF PREVIOUSLY FILED
APPLICATIONS FOR PERMITS FROM THE NYS DEC
RESOLUTION NO.: 175,94
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHEREAS, representatives of the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
(DEC) have indicated that the Department has on file an application submitted on behalf of the Town in
connection with a previously planned expansion of the Water Treatment Plant during 1987 or 1988, and
WHEREAS, because the Town is currently planning a Water Treatment Plant Expansion, it is
believed that the previously submitted applications should be withdrawn and new applications submitted in
conjunction with the current planned expansion,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes the Town
Attorney's office to contact the Department of Environmental Conservation and indicate that the previously
submitted applications are withdrawn and that a new application for permits will be submitted in the near
future.
Duly adopted this 4th day of April, 1994, by the following vote:
AYES: Dr. Wiswall, Mr. Caimano, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING TEMPORARY POSITION OF DOG ENUMERATOR
RESOLUTION NO.: 176,94
INTRODUCED BY: Dr. George Wiswall
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is desirous of establishing a temporary,
part -time position for the purpose of conducting a dog enumeration for the Town of Queensbury,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby establishes the temporary,
part -time position of Dog Enumerator, with an hourly wage at the minimum wage rate and with hours not
to exceed 30 in any week, with the understanding that the position will necessitate approximately 20 hours
per week until the task is completed, with the termination date of the position to be when the dog
enumeration is completed or six months from the date of this resolution, whichever date occurs first, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Executive Director is hereby authorized to advertise the availability of the
position of Dog Enumerator in the official newspaper for the Town of Queensbury and post the same in an
appropriate place in the Town Office Building, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that expenses resulting from the establishment of the position, as well as the actual
wages paid for the aforesaid position, will be recorded in the Dog Control Department of the General Fund,
pending transfer of funds from another budgeted line item in the General Fund of the Town of Queensbury.
Duly adopted this 4th day of April, 1994, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Caimano, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Dr. Wiswall, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION RETAINING FIRM FOR GRANT ADMINISTRATION
RESOLUTION NO.: 177,94
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Fred Champagne
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury submitted an application for a Small Cities Grant to assist
AMG Corporation in their proposed expansion within the Queensbury Economic Development Corporation
Technical Park, and
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury has been advised that the U. S. Department of Housing and
Urban Development has approved the Town's application for a Small Cities Grant of $400,000, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury believes that assistance with the grant
administration is appropriate and necessary, and
WHEREAS, the Executive Director previously arranged for the requesting of proposals for
housing and community development consulting services, and
WHEREAS, the Town received one response from Shelter Planning and Development, Inc., said
response indicating that the firm would provide the required administrative services for a lump sum of
$22,500,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes the Town
Supervisor to retain the services of Shelter Planning and Development, Inc., to provide assistance in the
management and administration of the Community Development Block Grant referred to in the preambles
of this resolution, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that any agreement entered into between the Town of Queensbury and Shelter
Planning and Development, Inc., shall be in a form to be approved by the Town Attorney for the Town of
Queensbury, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the agreement between the Town of Queensbury and Shelter Planning and
Development, Inc., shall provide for payment of the services from the grant proceeds, and also provide a
condition that should grant proceeds, for any reason, not be received, Shelter Planning and Development,
Inc., will not be paid for the services rendered.
Duly adopted this 4th day of April, 1994, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Dr. Wiswall, Mr. Caimano, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION TO APPOINT MEMBER TO BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE
RESOLUTION NO. 178, 94
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury has previously established the Beautification Committee,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby appoints Paul Lorenz to
serve as a member of the Beautification Committee.
Duly adopted this 4th day of April, 1994, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Monahan, Dr. Wiswall, Mr. Caimano, Mrs. Pulver, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING NEW CAPITAL PROJECT FUND FOR WEEKS
ROAD
RESOLUTION NO.: 179,94
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is desirous of establishing a Capital
Project Fund and establishing therein appropriations for certain improvements planned for Weeks Road in
the Town of Queensbury,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes and directs the
establishment of a capital project fund to be known as the Weeks Road Capital Project Fund for the
purpose of making improvements to Weeks Road, which fund would establish funding for all work and
purchases of all materials, etc. necessary to make improvements, including engineering and legal expense,
at an estimated cost not to exceed $80,000, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby establishes appropriations
for said new Capital Project Fund in the amount of $80,000, with the source of funding to be $80,000 from
the 1994 Adopted Budget of the General Fund of the Town, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes the Town
Supervisor to transfer funds and take all action that may be necessary to effectuate the terms and provisions
of this resolution, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Weeks Road Capital Project is to begin immediately, and to end by
December 31,1995.
Duly adopted this 4th day of April, 1994, by the following vote:
AYES: Dr. Wiswall, Mr. Caimano, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
ATTORNEY MATTERS
Attorney Dusek -Spoke to the Board regarding a parcel of land located near the Central Queensbury Quaker
Road Pumping Station off of Meadowbrook Road currently owned by Mr. Nolan. Noted Mr. Nolan is
willing to give the parcel to Queensbury. Has circulated information to the Sewer Department and
Recreation Department inquiring whether they would have any particular recommendations to the Town.
Matter to be brought back up at next meeting. Also, noted he has a brief update concerning the Water
Treatment Plant Expansion to be discussed at the Boards pleasure.
Councilman Monahan-Spoke to the Board regarding the new appraisal on all the Town properties. Noted
the appraisal value has to be approved by the Town Board. The following resolution was passed.
RESOLUTION APPROVING ITEMIZATION OF VALUES OF PROPERTIES
TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
RESOLUTION NO. 180, 94
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Dr. Wiswall
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury has arranged for a reappraising of the values of
buildings and other fixtures located on Town property dated February 7th, 1994, and
WHEREAS, a copy of that document has been presented at this meeting,
NOW THEREFORE BE IT
RESOLVED, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby approves the document titled Town of
Queensbury Building Value Comparison and authorizes its use in connection with the obtaining of
insurance for the Town of Queensbury.
Duly adopted this 4th day of April, 1994, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Caimano, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Dr. Wiswall, Mr.
Champagne
None: None
Absent:None
DISCUSSIONS
Supervisor Champagne-Asked Jim Canavan to speak to the Board regarding a proposal in terms of a study
for emergency services.
Councilman Caimano-Noted that the Town Board is attempting to get a better handle on all expenses in the
Town one of the major ones is the Fire/EMS. They had intended to put together a Committee made up of
fire service, emergency service, and private Towns people as of result of this, a meeting was held. During
the course of presentations it was clear that the emergency service people felt we we're violating our
responsibilities. The problem being that the Board did not know enough to ask the right questions. It was
the Boards decision to have someone work with them that was known by both sides and by the fact that he
or she had experience that the Board could draw on, act as a liaison for technical matters and administrative
matters. Mr. Canavans name came up from several sources, noting he has background with the fire service
having been a Chief with Queensbury Central, has his own place of business. Mr. Canavan is here to make
a proposal to the Town to act as a paid advisor to the Town Board in matters concerning emergency
servIces.
Mr. James Canavan-Attended a meeting a couple of weeks ago involving the Fire Study Committee, prior
to this meeting was called by members from at least two emergency squads in the Town and two fire
companies asking to attend meeting. Attended meeting, a number of people approached me at the meeting
asking if I thought I could help the situation out. Thought about it awhile, was approached by a couple of
members of the Town Board and believes that he could help as a facilitator. Earlier it was said that I was
an expert and professional, noted he believes he is a professional has never sold himself as an expert.
Believes he could help facilitate some dialogue between the emergency squads, fire department and the
Town Board. Thinks we can take time and review some of the studies that have been done in the past.
Noted he was Chief and got out in 1979 and was made an honorary life member, has not been an active
member since that time. Noted he is not prepared to make a decision on the purchase of the Bay Ridge fire
truck within a weeks time.
Councilman Caimano-Stated he still stands by what he said to have an answer for Bay Ridge within a
week.
Mr. Canavan-Noted he is a citizen of the Town, taxpayer in the Town and has a long service in fire and
EMS and would be happy to be of assistance to the Board.
Councilman Wiswall-Questioned if Mr. Canavan would be willing to do this as a volunteer.
Mr. Canavan-Noted is not prepared to do this on a volunteer basis at this point in his life.
Supervisor Champagne-Read the scope of the project.
Mr. Canavan-Noted when he spoke with the Fire Committee had ask if he was working with them or
dealing with input from the public or dealing with input from the emergency squads and fire departments,
the answer is we're listening to all people.
Councilman Wiswall-Questioned if Mr. Canavan has prepared a Comprehensive Plan before in another
Town?
Mr. Canavan-Yes.
Councilman Wiswall-Noted he just received the information tonight and hasn't had a chance to study it.
Asked for references the type of work that he has done, where it has been done. Questioned the Towns that
he has done this in?
Mr. Canavan-The Town of Lavonea, South of Rochester, he is involved in this currently and is the only
Town he has done.
Councilman Wiswall-Questioned if he had a final report, figures?
Mr. Canavan-Noted he sees himself as a facilitator a person who could create dialogue amongst the
agencies and Town Board, didn't come here selling himself as a professional.
Councilman Wiswall-Questioned if a license was required to do this?
Mr. Canavan-Doesn't think so.
Councilman Monahan-Questioned if it were volunteer companies or paid companies?
Mr. Canavan-Volunteer.
Councilman Monahan-Noted would be interested in seeing what the fire companies and EMS people
opinion is to the solution.
Supervisor Champagne-Noted his position is that the Board is trying to function at the Committee level.
The Committee has put in a lot of time and study in this. Going by the Committees recommendation one
way or another they have to move this.
Councilman Pulver-Noted they have some what of a solution whether or not it is the perfect solution we
don't know, thinks the Town needs a plan.
Councilman Wiswall-Questioned if it was fair to present this tonight and ask the Board to make a decision?
Attorney Pontiff-Speaking as a resident of the Town. Noted he thinks the Board is asking a person to do a
monumental task. The Board needs to take a longer period of time to consider this. The Town Board has
the responsibility to put together facts and figures and some sort of plan that will make sense. Have to
remember your dealing with five independent not -for-profit organizations that function on a contract basis
with the Town. To some degree you have to place some faith and trust in what those people are telling you.
Stated he is not saying you shouldn't hire Jim.
Mr. Nick Nicholson-Spoke to the Board noting his concern that you have to look for an answer and you
have to look at cost.
Mr. Salvador-Spoke to the Board regarding his concern on how you contract. Questioned the cost of the
scope of services and how this is to be paid for?
Councilman Caimano-About seventy-five hundred to ten thousand dollars.
Mr. Salvador-Questioned for what period of time?
Councilman Caimano- This year.
Mr. Salvador-Asked if the project would be completed this year?
Councilman Caimano-Probably not.
Mr. Salvador-Questioned finding the total scope of the problem and then maybe go out for competitive bids
on behalf of the taxpayer.
David Kinney-Questioned the Board if there would be a conflict of interest regarding Mr. Canavan, asked
the Board to look into this. Noted he believes the Board should look for outside people outside the Town
of Queensbury to come in as an independent person.
Dick Goedert -Questioned Councilman Caimano if Marv Lemery the Fire Coordinator has been contacted
for information he may already have in regards to what your looking for?
Councilman Caimano-Noted he has been approached. Does not have all the answers they have just
discussed it. Noted one of the reason hiring someone like Mr. Canavan is to help develop that plan.
Mr. Goedert -Questioned if the Board is asking for a separate study that will not duplicate any of the work
they, Mr. Lemery already does?
Councilman Caimano- Yes.
Mr. Goedert-Questioned the threshold for a bid?
Attorney Dusek-Professional services is twenty thousand.
Mr. Goedert-Noted Mr. Canavan is the EMS Coordinator doesn't see how he could do one thing and still
perform the other service, believes Mr. Lemery already has a lot of this information.
Mr. Marv Lemery-Noted he has statistics of things the Board was looking for earlier. As far as making
recommendations or mitigating problems that you might think you have in the fire service is over my head,
noted Mr. Canavan would do a good job. The members of the fire service and rescue squads probably are
aware of the problems and know how to address them better than anyone else.
Supervisor Champagne-Questioned if Mr. Lemery has an inventory of all the equipment in the Town?
Mr. Lemery-Yes.
Supervisor Champagne-Whatever the standard is the Board needs to take a look at the standard and
compare it to what we have already, noting this is the kind of information he needs in order to proceed.
Councilman Monahan-Concerned that in some of these instances may be reinventing the wheel. If we have
this information it needs to be brought together in a very understandable form. Part of this, believes can be
done without paying someone to do so you can cut cost to the taxpayers. Need to take this apart to see
what could be done then decide what the scope of this is going to be. Questioned what Mr. Canavan would
do to review boundaries?
Mr. Canavan-Thinks that there needs to be a meeting with all the parties, three emergency squads, five fire
companies and discuss response time, response distances.
Councilman Monahan-Would like to discuss how Mr. Canavan is going to do each one of these phases so
we understand the scope of work that is going to be done.
Councilman Pulver-Stated she has had a conversation with Mr. Canavan, noting she would be glad to
gather information on this, but might need to be directed as to where to get it.
Mrs. Goedert-The Board shouldn't fix something that's not broken what's broken is a little bit of
communication. The answer to the problem is for the Town Board to meet with the five Fire Chiefs.
Noting need to open up our communication and you have to open your communication. We're all working
for the same thing the betterment of the Town of Queensbury. The answers can be solved within the
people who have the knowledge educating the people who need to have the knowledge so they can sign our
contracts.
Councilman Pulver-Stated she agrees with some of the things stated and some things disagrees.
Mr. Canavan-Stated based on what he heard this evening would withdraw his offer.
Councilman Monahan-Stated something has happen between the Town Board, Fire Companies, and EMS
Squads. A lot of it is lack of communication, a lot of it as Town Board members have not had the
opportunity to participate. The system is broken down what replaced it was not a good system. We should
all admit there is a problem. There is a concern in Queensbury that this is getting away from us. Noted
there needs to be a mechanism with the volunteer fire companies and EMS squads so we are all walking the
same path for the best service in this Town so that it doesn't penalize the volunteers, taxpayers, and is a cost
effective affordable system. Would like to hear some innovative solutions that are going to work.
Councilman Caimano-Noted the question before them is that they made a commitment with Bay Ridge and
need to honor that.
TOWN BOARD TOOK TEN MINUTE RECESS
Supervisor Champagne-Reconvened meeting. The Board has agreed that come next Monday they will
have an answer for Bay Ridge. Will meet with Marv Lemery and anyone else tomorrow morning to get
statistics that he has in his office to justify and rationalize the direction we're going to take a week from
tonight. Thinks at this point Board will be ready to vote on the Bay Ridge truck.
Councilman Wiswall-Noted there are two resolutions before the Board, would like to present these
resolutions.
Attorney Pontiff-Isn't sure the Board will be anymore enlighten by next Monday night than you are right
now relative to that particular subject matter.
Supervisor Champagne-Noted it is his opinion that he will know more about it a week from tonight than I
know right now. It is the opinion of the other Boards members if they choose to introduce it as George is
talking about then it's entirely up to him.
Attorney Pontiff-Questioned is there a constructive purpose for a meeting between the Board members and
representatives from Bay Ridge Fire Company with respect to this one matter that can be accomplished
during the course of this week. This is the only way to develop the right kind of information not by looking
at a lot of miscellaneous statistics that may have been gathered over a period of time which really don't
have any bearing on an individual basis in any fire district particularly by itself. Looking for a suggested
meeting with respect to this particular matter before you make a decision either that or vote on the matter
tonight.
Councilman Monahan-Asked that a meeting be set up with Bay Ridge now.
Councilman Wiswall-Noted Marv Lemery doesn't have any control over what Bay Ridge can purchase,
would like to move on with the resolution.
Carol Martindale-Spoke in favor of the fire department purchase of the truck.
Councilman Wiswall-Noted he feels very strongly about this matter, asked Town Attorney to read
resolution into the record.
Attorney Dusek-Read resolution into record, recommended if the Board were to introduce the resolution to
do them separately.
RESOLUTION APPROVING FIRE COMPANY EQUIPMENT PURCHASE
RESOLUTION NO. 181, 94
INTRODUCED BY: Dr. George Wiswall
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury and the Bay Ridge Volunteer Fire Company, Inc., have
entered into an agreement for fire protection services dated December 20, 1993, and such agreement is still
in full force and effect, and
WHEREAS, said agreement sets forth a number of terms and conditions, including an agreement
that the Fire Company will not purchase or enter into any binding contract to purchase any piece of
apparatus or equipment at a cost exceeding the sum of $50,000.00 without prior approval of the Town
Board of the Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, the Bay Ridge Volunteer Fire Company, Inc., has indicated its desire to purchase a
new KME Rescue Pumper for the sum of $341,296.00,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby approves the purchase of
the KME Rescue Pumper for the sum of $341,296.00 by the Bay Ridge Volunteer Fire Company, Inc.,
provided, however, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury shall not and does not, by this
resolution, create or intend to create any assumption on the part of the Town of Queensbury of any
obligation or liability for the financing referred to herein.
Duly adopted this 4th day of April, 1994, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Monahan, Dr. Wiswall, Mr. Caimano, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
ABSTAIN:Mrs. Pulver
DISCUSSION HELD BEFORE VOTE
Attorney Pontiff-Talking about a purchase of $341,296 and talking about a finance amount of $185,996.
Councilman Monahan-Spoke to Board members, noting a motion is on the floor. If this motion is defeated
it will mean this will have to go to another public hearing. They may lose the cost its been given now and
it may mean they may lose the financing terms and interest they've been given with the rate of interest.
Reminded the Board that the fire truck has been in the process for many months and that their old truck
should be considered a nonpiece of equipment as far as Bay Ridge is concerned. Asked Board members to
consider all these things.
Mr. Mellon-Read article to Board members regarding why they have some of the safety features built into
the truck.
Brian LaFlure-Noted that the contract they have with the Town of Queensbury for fire service the clause
that's in there asking for a Fire Study Committee they asked for almost six years ago and hasn't been used,
would like get this going. Supports the purchase of fire truck regarding Bay Ridge.
VOTE TAKEN
Councilman Pulver-I've been sitting here trying to compose my thoughts, there are a couple of things that
I'd like to say. We all kind of agree that this piece of equipment does need to be replaced. For myself, I
have a responsibility to the citizens that elected me to try and control spending and keep the taxes as
affordable as possible. As the new member of this Board, I don't feel that I've had the opportunity to really
evaluate this piece of equipment to be sure that it not only meets our needs today, but will meet our needs
in the future. I've been looking over past literature that's come into the Town that we still have around. I've
seen Bay Ridge's budget only in the last five years has increased twenty-two percent. South Queensbury
twenty-one percent. North Queensbury ninety-three percent. Bay Ridge Rescue sixty-three percent. It's
those kinds of numbers that startle me and alarm me. I just feel that if we're going to commit to another
piece of equipment, I would like it to be the piece of equipment we are not only going to need for today,
but the future as well. I was one of the ones that asked them to wait another week so I'm going to abstain
from this vote.
Councilman Caimano-One thing that I heard tonight that stands out is the length of preparation and type of
preparation to determine whether or not you needed this vehicle. On the other side of that coin there is no
evidence other than hearsay and discussion that you don't need the vehicle. I hear a lot of talk including my
own that it's to big, you don't need it, but we don't have at least, I don't for my own way of thinking on the
other side which is why I wanted to have and will continue to fight for an independent person who is
knowledgeable to help me make these decisions. On the other hand, I made a promise. I told you that I
was very sympathetic to the fact that I would not hold you hostage. I thought you were caught in the
middle between a changeover of the Board, certainly a changeover in my thinking. Absent anything else, I
intend to live to that and I vote for the truck.
DISCUSSION HELD
Supervisor Champagne-Thanked Bay Ridge for a study well done. Noted he will still meet with Mr.
Lemery tomorrow to pull data together to further examined the fire service.
RESOLUTION APPROVING THE INCURRING, ON THE PART OF THE
BAY RIDGE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY, INC.,
OF FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS
RESOLUTION NO.: 182,94
INTRODUCED BY: Dr. George Wiswall
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury presently has a contract with the Bay Ridge Volunteer Fire
Company, Inc., wherein the said Fire Company has agreed to provide fire protection services for a certain
area of the fire protection district located within the Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, the Bay Ridge Volunteer Fire Company, Inc. is presently desirous of purchasing a
new piece of fire apparatus known as a KME Rescue Pumper and securing financing for a portion of the
purchase price, and
WHEREAS, the Bay Ridge Volunteer Fire Company, Inc. has negotiated with the LaSalle
National Bank of Denver, Colorado a lease purchase agreement qualifying as tax-exempt bonding under
~301(e) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 as amended, and
WHEREAS, the Bay Ridge Volunteer Fire Company, Inc., pursuantto ~147(f) of the Internal
Revenue Code of 1986, as amended, has requested that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hold a
public hearing pursuant to said statute to authorize the approval of said financing and authorize the
Supervisor of the Town of Queensbury to execute an approval of said financing to comply with the
statutory requirements, and
WHEREAS, on April 4, 1994, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury held a public hearing
for the aforedescribed purpose and provided an opportunity for interested persons to be heard regarding the
financing proposal, and
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury desires to facilitate said financing on behalf of the Fire
Company, and
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby approves the incurring on
the part of the Bay Ridge Volunteer Fire Company, Inc. of financial obligations in the amount of
$185,996.00 for the purchase of one (1) KME Rescue Pumper with tax-exempt financing provided pursuant
to ~301(e) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended, and
BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury shall not and does not, by this
resolution, create or intend to create, any assumption on the part of the Town of Queensbury, of any
obligation or liability for the financing referred to herein.
Duly adopted this 4th day of April, 1994, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Monahan, Dr. Wiswall, Mr. Caimano, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
ABSTAIN:Mrs. Pulver
Dick Bilodeau-Treasurer Bay Ridge Fire Company. Thanked the Town Board on behalf of the Bay Ridge
Fire Company, noting it has been a long tedious process on both parts.
Councilman Pulver-Asked Mr. Bilodeau if he could please send information that the Board has requested.
DISCUSSIONS
Statement of Policy - Risk Management
Supervisor Champagne-Stated the Insurance Company has obligated the Town to put together a Statement
of Policy. Handed it out for Boards review, to bring back to Board meeting in two weeks for a vote.
ROUTE 149 CORRIDOR STUDY
Councilman Caimano-Attended the Route 149 meeting last week. Thanked Jim Martin and Scott Harlicker
for the work they have done. Noted in order for them to move forward the Board needs to know what the
State of New York is going to do with the road. Requested they should stop doing anything further on
Route 149 until they have something definitive from the State of New York.
Supervisor Champagne-In agreement with Councilman Caimano. Met with the Glens Falls Transportation
Council, noted there does need to be a more thorough study through DOT. Noted because of the
seriousness of the road that DOT will be moving this up on their schedule.
Councilman Wiswall-In agreement.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-Noted they may have some idea of the scope of the project in terms of the
roadwork by the end of 1995, but is only speculative at this point.
Councilman Monahan-Asked Mr. Martin if all thoughts of a connector road between Vermont and the
Northway been dropped by the State?
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-It has been said by the Staff Coordinator of the Transportation Council that
given the choice of a major capital project and taking an existing right -a-way and working with that they
are going to opt for using the existing right-a-way because generally it's cheaper. Noted his impression
would be it would apply here, probably make some sort of improvement to the existing right -a-way rather
than capital expense of a whole new major arterial road into Vermont.
OPEN FORUM
Mr. John Salvador-Requested that Board be consistent in regard to public comment when a resolution is on
the floor.
Councilman Caimano-Noted that the Board follows Roberts Rule of Order.
Mr. Salvador-Questioned if Robert Rules of Order is governing Town Law?
Councilman Caimano-Yes, noted they were adopted January 1st.
Mr. Salvador-Questioned if the Board could adopt the rules of order?
Attorney Dusek-Noted the Town Board had the authority to adopt Robert Rules of Order. The Town Law
does not address this specific issue of how exactly you entertain discussion during motions.
Councilman Caimano- In agreement that the Board has to be consistent.
Supervisor Champagne-Noted he will work towards correcting this.
Mr. Salvador-Read an Article to Board Members regarding public business being conducted in an open and
public manner. Stated he sees as a real problem the tax exempts in the Town with regard to fire tax noting
the citizens of Queensbury should not bear the full burden. Thinks a great deal could be done to reduce the
tax burden if you put a handle on the real users.
Councilman Pulver-Noted it was her hope in hiring a professional to lead us to these answers.
Councilman Wiswall-Noted everyone pays the fire tax including the people in the fire companies.
Mr. Salvador-Believes Town government is able to handle this problem.
Supervisor Champagne-Will take this into consideration.
Mr. Salvador-Questioned if someone will be hired for the Dog Enumerator position?
Councilman Pulver-Yes. The resolution stated no more than thirty hours a week probably around twenty
for six months and will report to Colleen.
Mr. Salvador-Questioned what obligation does the Town have to enumerate dogs, are the dogs licensed by
the State?
Councilman Caimano-Licensed by the Town. We collect the money.
Mr. Salvador-Questioned if it's a Town function, requirement?
Supervisor Champagne-Yes.
Mr. Salvador-Questioned if this is required in law that you do this?
Supervisor Champagne-Noted in this particular incident it is not required. If there are animals out there
running loose we've got some serious problem with the rabies. Thinks it is time that these are identified on
record with income and there is income which should cover the cost of the enumerator in order to balance
the revenue verse the expense.
Mr. Salvador-Questioned if the money taken in by the Town Clerks Office for dog licenses stays with the
Town?
Supervisor Champagne-Noted a portion of it does, doesn't know what the portion is.
Mr. Salvador-Questioned how much a year is taken in?
Councilman Monahan-Noted it's in the Town Clerks yearly report, can obtain a copy in the Town Clerks
Office.
Councilman Wiswall-Noted that the Dog Control Committee is working on an Animal Control Law which
will be ready in about a month, will have more information by then. Noted the Town is going to have to
raise the license fee of dogs.
OPEN FORUM CLOSED
RESOLUTION APPROVING AUDIT OF BILLS
RESOLUTION NO. 183, 94
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
RESOLVED, that the Audit of Bills appearing on the Abstract of April 4th, 1994 and numbering 94121600
through 94140800 and totaling $89,311.59 is hereby approved.
Duly adopted this 4th day of April, 1994, by the following vote:
Ayes: Dr. Wiswall, Mr. Caimano, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr.
Champagne
Noes: None
Absent:None
Abstain:Mr. Caimano 000127 (G.F. Post Star)
DISCUSSION HELD
Supervisor Champagne-Spoke to the Board regarding a dinner certificate from Joseph Restaurant from
Seelyes Office System. Received this by having purchased a copier from Seeyles. It was the decision of
the Town Board to donate the dinner certificate to Prospect School.
Ralph VanDusen-Spoke to the Board regarding the Water Treatment Plant Expansion. Noted that he has
met with Councilman Pulver, Attorney Dusek, representatives of the State Health Department, and DEC at
the Water Plant to discuss the applications, permits, that would be necessary and the interaction that would
have to take place between the various divisions of the State, Town and Engineering Firms. Presented to
Board members a time line of where the project is at and what steps are needed to go through
and the order and how long it would take to get there. O'Brien and Gere was asked to come up with two
different time lines both of them assuming that a public hearing would be held on April 25th, 1994.
Schedule one, O'Brien and Gere would be hired to work as the permits are in the process of being
completed. That schedule would end up with construction being complete by the Spring of 1996. Schedule
Two, is similar except that O'Brien and Gere would not be hired until the permits are approved as far as
they can be. This delays the project approximately six months with a completion date of 1997. It was the
decision of the Town Board to go with Schedule One.
Attorney Dusek-Cautioned the Board regarding the April 25th, proposed public hearing date. Stated he is
not optimistic about making that date based on everything that is happening right now. May be anywhere
from two weeks to a month behind on that. Doesn't think this will throw off the completion of the project.
Noted there are a number of issues that need to be finished before you can really entertain a public hearing.
Paul Naylor, Highway Superintendent-Spoke to the Board noting that the Town Highway Department will
be picking up tree limbs, asked residents to put them at the edge of the road so they can pick them up.
Noted that Ward Four is seventy-five percent swept. Ward Three, hundred percent. Ward Two, fifty
percent. Ward One, fifty percent. Will be coming back to sweep again after the snow banks melt.
RESOLUTION ENTERING EXECUTIVE SESSION
RESOLUTION NO. 184, 94
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Fred Champagne
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from Regular Session and
moves into Executive Session to discuss labor negotiation matters.
Duly adopted this 4th day of April, 1994, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Caimano, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Dr. Wiswall, Mr.
Champagne
Noes: None
Absent:None
RESOLUTION ADJOURNING EXECUTIVE SESSION
RESOLUTION NO. 185, 94
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Fred Champagne
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from Executive Session
and moves back into Regular Session.
Duly adopted this 4th day of April, 1994, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Dr. Wiswall, Mr. Caimano, Mr.
Champagne
Noes: None
Absent:None
RESOLUTION ADJOURNING TOWN BOARD MEETING
RESOLUTION NO. 186, 94
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Nick Caimano
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Fred Champagne
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns its Regular Meeting.
Duly adopted this 4th day of April, 1994, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Monahan, Dr. Wiswall, Mr. Caimano, Mrs. Pulver, Mr.
Champagne
Noes: None
Absent:None
No further action taken.
On motion, the meeting adjourned.
Respectfully Submitted,
Darleen Dougher
Town Clerk
Town of Queensbury