1996-03-04
REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING
MARCH 4, 1996
7:05 P.M.
MTG#12
RES#112-145
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT
SUPERVISOR FRED CHAMPAGNE
COUNCILMAN BETTY MONAHAN
COUNCILMAN THEODORE TURNER
COUNCILMAN CONNIE GOEDERT
COUNCILMAN CAROL PULVER
TOWN COUNSEL
MARK SCHACHNER
TOWN OFFICIALS
TOM FLAHERTY, RALPH VANDUSEN, MARIL YN VAN DYKE, PAM MARTIN, HARRY
HANSEN, KIM HEUNEMANN, P AUL NAYLOR, JIM MARTIN
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Opened meeting.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-Welcomed Troop 13 of the Boy Scouts to the meeting. Noted they are present
for the purpose of a merit badge which includes citizenship in the community. Introduced Frank Deonardo,
Scout Master, John McCormack, Michael Muller, and Brain Lee, Assistant Scout Masters. Pledge of
Allegiance led by Troop 13.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Introduced Mark Schachner as the new Attorney for the Town and Pamela
Martin, Confidential Secretary to the Town Attorney.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
SUBMISSION OF PROPOSED SMALL CITIES GRANT APPLICATION
OPENED 7:06 P.M.
NOTICE SHOWN
PAT TATICH-This is the second public hearing of the Town's submission of a Small Cities Application to
the Department of Housing and Urban Development. The Town of Queensbury is desirous of directing
public monies for activities which are needed in the community. Last year the Town of Queensbury
submitted an application to the Department of Housing and Urban Development for a Small Cities
Application in the amount of $246,000 for improvements to the water system in the West Glens Falls area.
That application although close did not score sufficiently high to merit funding and that remains a top
priory for the Town of Queensbury. This year the town after discussions with the Planning Department and
with the Town Board decided to pursue another application in that effort. The town within the last month
identified some housing needs in the West Glens Falls area. It was determined based on the response to the
survey and the short time span for submission that the town is still desirous of proceeding forward with the
water improvements that are so desperately needed in the West Glens Falls area. The Planning Department
has recommended to the town that we proceed with including the water improvement within the county's
application. With the other activities that are included in the county's application mainly some housing
activities, new home ownership program, micro-enterprise loan development program, we thought it would
be in the best interest of the Town of Queensbury to have that component, the water system to be part of
the county's application.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Anyone in the audience care to speak on behalf or against that? The board
any concerns, questions?
COUNCILMAN PULVER-No. I would just like to thank Pat for all her hard work on our behalf. I'm
going to keep my fingers crossed for all of us.
MS. TATICH-I did not bring enough pamphlets obviously for this size crowd that you have here this
evening, but if anyone would like a copy of the Small Cities Handout which includes the reg's in a
abbreviated form as well as the eligible activity they can contact the County Planning Department Office.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Thank you, Pat.
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SUBMISSION OF PROPOSED
SMALL CITIES GRANT APPLICATION
RESOLUTION NO.: 112,96
INTRODUCED BY : Mr. Theodore Turner
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY : Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHEREAS, the U. S. Department of Housing and Urban Development will be accepting
applications for the Community Development Block Grant Small Cities Program, and
WHEREAS, the aforementioned Small Cities Program makes funds available for comprehensive
programs providing funds to improve housing, public facilities, and economic development opportunities,
and
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury intends to submit a Small Cities application to HUD for the
purpose of providing funding for a comprehensive program which may provide housing improvements, job
growth, and water system improvements, and increase recreation opportunities, and
WHEREAS, the federal regulations relating to proper submission of a Small Cities Grant
Application require two (2) public hearings explaining the Program guidelines and the proposed use of the
Grant funds, and
WHEREAS, the two (2) public hearings were held on February 26, 1996 and March 4, 1996, and
all parties in interest and citizens had an opportunity to be heard and obtain information regarding the
proposed Small Cities Grant application described in the preambles of this resolution,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes the submission
of the Small Cities Grant Application referenced hereinabove, and authorizes and directs the Town
Supervisor, working with the Warren County Department of Planning and Community Development, to
execute any and all documents necessary for the submission.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED 7:11 P.M.
PUBLIC HEARING
AMEND WATER RATES PROVIDE FOR SPECIAL RATE FOR PURCHASES OVER 4 MILLION
GALLONS PER QUARTER
OPENED 7: 11 P.M.
NOTICE SHOWN
TOM FLAHERTY, WATER SUPERINTENDENT-This was brought about as you are aware of early in
the year, late December. The board received a request from several taxpayers in the town one of them
being West Mountain Corporation to look at a bulk rate for purchases oflarge amounts of water. The
board asked the Water Department to come up with some proposal, some scenarios. We presented, I think
four or five to the board sometime in late January early February. The board has settled upon, it is on the
easel in front of us tonight. What it does is the current rate for homeowners or anyone in the town right at
the moment is a base charge $20.00 per quarter. For anything purchased over 8,000 gallons it is a $1.52
per thousand based on the latest rate schedule that was adopted by the Town Board. Under the bulk rate if
you will use that as a title for it you still have your $20.00 per thousand base charge per quarter you pay
$1.52 per thousand up to 4 million gallons anything over 4 million gallons is based at .95 per thousand
gallons.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Per quarter?
MR. FLAHERTY, WATER SUPERINTENDENT -Per quarter. Per metered connection per quarter.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Tom I didn't catch the last part of that.
MR. FLAHERTY, WATER SUPERINTENDENT-The proposed rate for the bulk is $20.00 per quarter
base charge, $1.52 per thousand up to 4 million gallons, .95 per thousand anything over four million. That
was the one that the board seemed to like when we presented this way back in February. That is the sum
and substance of the Water Departments involvement in this other than presenting it to the board.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Anyone else from the audience care to speak?
MIKE BRANDT, QUEENSBURY-Mr. Supervisor, members of the Board, I appreciate the opportunity to
speak to you. I am the person who wrote that letter and asked for bulk water rates for West Mountain Ski
area. I really asked for the establishment of industrial rates for anybody. While it has been reported in the
newspaper that this rate would be for Mr. Wood and Mr. Brandt that is not true. This rate would be
effective for everybody if it were established. I think there are a couple of critical questions you need to
ask as members of the board in looking at this proposal. The critical questions are, one, does the water
district make money selling water at this rate for an industrial user? It has too, if it doesn't meet that criteria
then you shouldn't set it. The water district cannot subsidize anybody and it shouldn't, and I don't believe it
would. I know something of the district and I know something of the cost of running the water system. I
don't the current cost, but I believe that the rate you proposed would clearly make money for the water
district. The second question, I think you have to ask if you don't establish a special rate will the water
district potentially lose revenue, I think that's a fact it will. The reason is that you've raised water rates a
great deal recently. In our particular process West Mountain this season has used 32 million gallons of
water. Most of it was purchased before the end of the year when the new rates will come into effect we
bought that under the old rate system. I calculated what the new rates proposed would be for us verses
what we just paid. We just paid $32,134.20 for water with the new rates for the same amount of
consumption we would be paying $32,680.00. The old rates were acceptable to us the new rates would be
acceptable as proposed. We have other alternatives, I think everybody does. Water falls from the sky here
we're very lucky a million gallons falls on every acre in our region every year. You can make reservoirs to
capture streams and fill them up for snow making that kind of water needs no other treatment. However,
for us we would have to use our capital to build a reservoir and capture water then build pumps to pump it.
We would much rather use our capital to build snow guns, pipe lines, light trails, and put in more ski lifts.
We have a big need for expansion of our facility other than to try and duplicate the facilities you already
have. I thank you very much for your consideration and I know you'll do what you think is right.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Thank you.
BARBARA BENNETT, QUEENSBURY-In case you who want to know what the average citizens rate
were and what they are now they are getting a decrease but we're getting an increase. Up to and including
your last water bill you were paying a base charge of $17.00 it is $20.00 now. It was $17.00 for up to
12,000 gallons now it is only 8,000 gallons. It is now a $1.52 over that per thousand gallon and it was a
$1.20. It is changing your water rates in four different ways and is an increase for you while the big water
users are getting a decrease. I just want to let you know the average citizens is getting their water rates
raised three or four different ways.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Thank you. Anyone else? Anyone from the board comments, concerns?
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-I have a couple questions. Have we done the mathematics as to what water
would cost if the high water users chose an alternative to our Water Treatment Plant?
MR. FLAHERTY, WATER SUPERINTENDENT-Not really. The only way, I can answer that question is
we had a similar situation back when Ciba Geigy was here several years ago when they closed down we
saw a decrease in water usage for about a period of a year and it built back up to where it was. No, we have
not sat down and done detailed....
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-In the cost effectiveness to the high water user at what increase will that put
onto the normal water user, family water user?
MR. FLAHERTY, WATER SUPERINTENDENT-You have those figures Ralph.
RALPH VANDUSEN, DEPUTY WATER SUPERINTENDENT -Actually at this point I'm not sure
anybody can say it's going to increase or decrease. It is our hope and our goal that creating a financial
incentive for bulk user will actually create an incentive for those users to increase the volume of water that
they are consuming and therefore actually could have an effect of decreasing the rates for everyone else. If
those bulk users do not increase their consumption the loss of revenue because of this new rate would
amount to approximately one per cent of our revenue.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I just heard Mr. Brandt say it was a $32,000 annual bill is that what I heard
him say so that's a sizable chuck. I don't know what Mr. Wood's operation pays but I would think it's pretty
close to that.
MR. VANDUSEN, DEPUTY WATER SUPERINTENDENT-If both of those consumers dropped out
we're probably looking at $50,000 or $60,000 loss at the current rate of consumption.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-It just happens to be that the large water users technically only are classified
that at small periods of the year correct, off peak time?
MR. VANDUSEN, DEPUTY WATER SUPERINTENDENT -Certainly, West Mountain is very much off
peak. Their needs are in the winter time when the rest of the system is seeing a low. The Great Escape
typically early in the year late May, June, early July.
MR. FLAHERTY, WATER SUPERINTENDENT-Based on our studies we did this afternoon you are
looking at probably four consumers that would fall in this rate at the present time. Great Escape, West
Mountain, Forest Park, there are three.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-We did not want that. We did that so that it would be like people with
individual homes would not fall into this.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Any other questions from the board?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I hope that resolution is drawn correctly to reflect that.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-That was my understanding. There was a mobile home park that used that
quantity or was that slightly less than that?
MR. VANDUSEN, DEPUTY WATER SUPERINTENDENT-There is one mobile home park that has
twice in the last four years that has....
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Exceed the forty.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-But, we have said they are actually individual homeowners and they should
not have that. Even though it is billed through Forest Park they in turn, turn around and bill individual
people. An individual homeowner just because they live in a park shouldn't be getting a break on the water
that our other homeowners are not getting.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-The resolution doesn't spell it out.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Then we need to change this resolution to say industrial users unless you
call a mobile home park a commercial user. But some way we need to specify that because that was not
our intent, individual homeowners were going to be treated alike.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Mark is there someway we can get something in there to identify that.
ATTORNEY SCHACHNER-I'm thinking the easiest thing would be to use an adjective like commercial or
something. Betty is certainly right that was not anticipated as far as a distinction.
MR. VANDUSEN, DEPUTY WATER SUPERINTENDENT -Can I recommend if you are going to say
commercial say, commercial or industrial.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Commercial\industrial.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Where do you want to enter that Mark?
ATTORNEY SCHACHNER-You can put it in the first whereas, fifth line after the word for, at the
beginning. It would say having determined that a propose water rate should be considered for commercial
or industrial purchases of over 4 million gallons per quarter. We would need to find a suitable appropriate
place to add it in the resolve. It would be before the word purchases in the third line of the first resolved
paragraph. The first resolved, would be, resolved the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby
authorizes and directs that the proposed water rate for commercial or industrial purchases of over....
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Okay. You've heard the change in the motion what's your pleasure?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I think we should also mention Fred, this is really a small point, this is also
a selling point when we're trying to sell this area to a company coming in that would be using a lot of water
our water rates are competitive.
COUNCILMAN PUL VER-Ifthe whole idea in premise doesn't work we can always revert back to what
we originally had.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED 7:25 P.M.
RESOLUTION AMENDING WATER RATES TO PROVIDE FOR A SPECIAL RATE
FOR PURCHASES OVER 4 MILLION GALLONS PER QUARTER FROM THE
QUEENSBURY CONSOLIDATED WATER DISTRICT
RESOLUTION NO. 113, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, as the governing board for the
Queensbury Consolidated Water District, having reviewed the finances of the Water District, and having
determined that a proposed special water rate should be considered for commercial\industrial purchases of
over 4 million gallons per quarter, and having also determined it appropriate to set a public hearing
concerning said amendment of water rate, and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was duly held on March 4, 1996, at which time all persons interested
were heard,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes and directs that
the proposed special water rate for commercial\industrial purchases of over 4 million gallons per metered
connection per quarter from the Queensbury Consolidated Water District and all extensions and
consolidated districts and extensions therein, be adopted, which special water rate is to be $ .95 per 1,000
gallons over 4,000,000 gallons per quarter, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the special water rate will take effect for water consumed after the meter
reading date for the February 1996 billing, with the May 1996 billing statements to reflect water consumed
at the new rate.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
PUBLIC HEARING
PETITION CHANGE OF ZONE MICHAEL 1. V ASILIOU
OPENED 7:25 P.M.
NOTICE SHOWN
ATTORNEY MICHAEL O'CONNOR, REPRESENTING MR. V ASILIOU, MIKE V ASILIOU,
DEVELOPER, MATT JONES, JONES & FARRAR, JIM MILLER, MILLER ASSOCIATES
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Just to set some ground rules for our next public hearing and I'll open that
at this point on the zoning change the public hearing will deal primarily with the zoning change. It is our
opinion that after tonight's public hearing Mr. Vasiliou will then go back after he hears what is said at this
session, will come back in sometime later down the road and we will have another public hearing dealing
with the PUD. We're going to be listening very acutely tonight and our hearing aids are right up on high
and I'm sure so are the attorney's that are working with Mr. Vasiliou. I just want to say that there will be no
resolutions as of this evening except to say with a little luck they'll be coming back here in another month
or six weeks at another public hearing at which time we will be hearing this all over again along with the
PUD as it is planned. So with that Mike, I would like to have you give us somewhat of a presentation so
that we are all on the same page as we take questions and hear the public.
ATTORNEY MICHAEL O'CONNOR-Mr. Supervisor, Members of the Board. For the purpose of your
record, I am Michael O'Connor from the Law Firm of Little and O'Connor. I am representing the developer
Michael 1. Vasiliou, Inc. With me is the principal of that development Mike Vasiliou. Also with me is
Matt Jones from the firm of Jones & Farrar out of Saratoga who represents one of the parties that has an
ownership interest in the property, Jim Miller from Miller Associates who is the Planning Consultant that
we will utilize on the project. I will try to be brief because I think the purpose of tonight's meeting is to
have the board have the impact of the neighbors. I would like to begin if I could simply by setting the
proper tenor for tonight's presentation.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Can you all hear in the back?
ATTORNEY O'CONNOR-Our presentation is going to be based upon fact not upon fancy. It is going to
be based upon facts not speculation. It is going to deal with impacts that are reasonably foreseeable. I've
never had a project where we've been able to deal with all possible impacts that you are going to speculate
might or might not occur. What, I've asked the board to concentrate on with listening to my presentation as
well as the presentation of others is actually fact and not as to speculation. I understand the ground rules
that you have set forth. In fact, it is my understanding that we are here on the rezoning issue which I would
paraphrase as being Stage One in a two stage process. Stage two is the PUD or Planned Unit Development
approval and that is not the subject before the board at this time. I will and must stipulate that the SEQRA
review will and should consider impacts of both what I have described as stage one, the rezoning, stage
two, the PUD approval. I acknowledge and expect that the board will connect the two under SEQRA
because I don't think we can segment the two stages and I have no intention of doing that. To date we have
had a couple meetings with the board, a couple meetings with the planning committee on your board. We
tried to come up with a plan that works for us and a plan that we believe will be an asset to the town. We
have also based upon referrals by your board been before the Town Planning Board. The Town Planning
Board has recommended the rezoning as requested and has discussed at length in their minutes and asked
that their minutes be made part of their approval recommendation concerns that they had that they thought
the board should address. We've been to the County Planning Board and that board has also recommended
approval of the rezoning as we have requested it and I believe you have a resolution to that effect from
them. We've had a couple meetings with neighbors. We had one meeting here with some people that live
directly on Fox Farm Road or on Farr Lane and a couple of the lots that adjoin Fox Farm Road. We then
had a second meeting with some representatives of people in the Fox Farm Development if they call their
development that. Then we were invited and we thanked them, and I thank them again to the home of one
of the families within Fox Farm and we had some discussion and exchange of information at that meeting.
We have tried to keep everybody abreast of what we are doing and we go forward tonight with that in
mind. The project developer as I have indicated is Michael 1. Vasiliou Inc. It is a corporation owned solely
by Mike Vasiliou. Mike is a custom builder he is not a track builder. We believe that the time table of this
project is five to seven years. We believe that there will be approximately twenty units built per year. We
are talking about one hundred and four single family units, nineteen duplexes, or thirty-eight living units.
We're talking about a set aside for a senior citizens apartments complex much like Solomon Heights which
would have forty-two units. We're talking in total of one hundred eighty-four living units. We're also
talking about a set aside one acre for a community center whether it be day care of some type or medical
facility that would serve principally into the neighborhood that we're building this development in. The
sale price and this is a fact I think it is something that has concerned some people and perhaps has
generated maybe some of the opposition that we may have. The single homes are going to sell in the area
of one hundred ten to one hundred fifty thousand. We're talking about building structures about two story
structures or a cape structure with a total square footage minimum of fourteen hundred forty square feet.
You are talking of ranches with a minimum square footage of twelve hundred square feet. The duplexes
are probably going to be in the price range of eighty thousand. We're talking about a minimum of twelve
hundred and fifty square feet per unit or buildings of twenty-five hundred square feet. I'd say that, that fact
is part of what has generated some opposition basically from the input that I've had. I've been told that if
we were to build three acres at three hundred thousand dollar houses we wouldn't have a concern. I think
we can address that issue, I think we have fairly addressed it again with fact and I will. I like to in an
attempt to be brief because I know that I'm never to brief. Jim Miller can actually give you a description of
the project and its location because some people may not even be fully aware of exactly where the project
site is. Jim if you would go ahead with that portion.
PRESENTED MAP OF PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT
JIM MILLER, MILLER ASSOCIATES, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT-I have been working for about eight
months on this project, with this project being the Town Board and the Planning Staff. The project is one
hundred forty acres. Here is the project site the various the colors in green a hundred and forty acres. The
area is blue is Queensbury School as you can see we've indicated in here the High School, Middle School,
Elementary School. Solomon Heights is located to the west side of the property. Here is the Northway
across the bottom of the page and Aviation Road runs this direction. The site is at the end ofFarr Lane and
on the west side is Fox Farm Road that comes onto the property. We'll come back to this drawing in a
minute. I just wanted to use that to orient you where we are on the property. This is the existing condition
that is here now. You can see right here F arr Lane comes into the property right now and ends in a cul-de-
sac in this area. This building shown on the property here it's the existing Solomon Heights Senior Citizens
Housing Project. Right now there is a subdivision which occupies about nineteen acres in this area that is
existing and the rear portion of the site is about a hundred and twenty acres and is undeveloped and
wooded. One of the things you can see directly across the property is a contour slide showing a magnetic
about fifty feet I believe that runs across the property. The blue line at the base is the flagged wetland
boundary to the north and the west of the property. As part of the investigation there has been substantial
soil studies done that started back in 1988, 1989, and we've had one just recent as a year ago primarily in
the flat portion of the site excavations have been explored to sixteen feet the soil is sand. There is no
bedrock, no groundwater encountered in those excavations and percolation tests were done and percolation
test range from a minute and fifteen seconds to two minutes. Also there was a concern of archeological
significance on the site. An archeologist was hired and has done a complete investigation and also has
done field investigation on the property. You can see along the top of the bluff there is some dark spots
and they indicate locations where there actually was some artifacts found. We planned the project around
that and avoided any of those significant areas and we have a letter from the office of Historic Preservation
recognizing that fact. With that we'll flipp over and talk about the propose development. The entire project
is being proposed along the flat portion of the site that you can see. In the green areas the wetland area and
the area of the steep bank which comprise of fifty-three acres will be preserved they will be dedicated to the
town or in some fashion be conservation land. The intent of the development was, first thing was to
develop basically a loop road system as required by Town Code. We need two access points so we utilized
Fox Farm Road and Farr Lane you basically have a loop system through the property, also the intent was
to have an expansion to Solomon Heights. The five acre lot would be set aside for duplication of the
existing facility that is there. Then to develop sort of a community approach where we would have a mix
of houses from the senior citizens, duplex lots, which show up in the yellow. The duplex lots there are
nineteen lots, thirty-eight total units. Then a hundred and four light green lots single family which range in
size from fifteen thousand square feet, there are some around nine tenths of an acre, we will talk about sizes
a little bit in more detail. In developing the plans their preservation of the trees and trying to incorporate
some green space within the project was one of the goals. One of the other goals was to try to reduce the
amount of infrastructure, water line, length of road, for snow plowing and those types of things. In addition
to the fifty-three acres of green preservation space from the site....
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Jim excuse me. If you could raise that again, I think the people, I know it's
hard on your arms and I apologize we don't have someway of holding it up there.
MR. MILLER-In addition to the land conservation area fifty-three acres there is about nine acres, eight
point eight acres ofland that will be preserved through the center of the property. Part of the reason for this
land taking this shape is twofold. One, is to provide a buffer between various segments of the site where
we have the senior citizen housing and the duplexes separating by this park space and we'll have the single
family lots and buffer areas before the wetlands. This linear green space would help to separate the project
and preserve these areas of trees. The other concern was to try to develop this in a way that it would
become a connection. You can see here there is a connection that ties down, this is the school site to the
east, this is where the baseball area is here, the little league is back in this area, provide a connection
through here where there could be a trail access into the school. Part of the reason for this was that it could
connect up, it could connect at Fox Farm Road to allow some of the communities to the west access
without going to Aviation Road, access down to the school property. Also we've connected back to the
conservation area in the overall plan. The bikes trails, hiking trails this would provide some access back to
that conservation area. The third way there was some trees being preserved in the dark green areas you can
see throughout the site these would be deed restricted areas to the rear of sites where trees could not be
cleared. They would be limited to how much of a site could be cleared this would provide some permanent
buffer and separation between the lots. This red area you can see up in here that was a one acre site that
Mike had mentioned that was proposed as either a day care center or clinic or something that would
provide service to this community and neighborhoods in the area. One of the questions that has come up
was dealt with the size of the lots. The zone changes we're requesting to SR -15 zone the reason for that
wasn't to develop fifteen thousand square foot lots. But, within that zone it would allow the mix uses the
multi-family senior citizen housing, the duplexes, community service facility, and would also allow the
planned unit development. This map we color coded the lots by size and you can see the dark green is a
minimum of a half an acre, light green is four tenths of an acre to a half acre, the blue which occur here, I
know there are a couple of scattered ones which are under four tenths of an acre. The average lot size in
the single family is point four eight acres. We haven't had a chance to refine this because we are in the
early planning stages. Most of these lots along the bluff are just slightly under a half acre, like point four
acres, it would be our intent to modify those. All the lots on the west side along the bluff would be a half
an acre. One of the reasons the lot sizes are that size is because we developed a green space and the park
space we obviously have to reduce the size of the lot. We went through a quick calculation here in the box
at the top it shows the lots according to number addressing groups of ten. You can see what the averages
are and that the average of all hundred and four lots comes out to point four eight acres. Some of the lots
you will see where the average is like point five acres those are the lots back along the bluff. You see in
the box underneath where it shows, we didn't include the wetland. We didn't include the wetland area
because that would be non-developable. But, this park land this area along the bank as well as some of the
senior citizens lots and the community service lot comprise twenty nine point two six acres. If that area
was included in the lots the average lot size would then go up to point seven six four. The last calculation
just included the park land and the conservation land so if that green space was incorporated into the lots
our average lot size would be point seven three acres. The size of the lot is reduced to buildable area
allowing the preservation of the other spaces. We put together two typical lots. This first one, the smallest
lots are a hundred feet wide and the larger lots are a hundred and twenty five feet. We took one of the
smaller lots which is lot twenty-one, this lot right in this portion of the road that butts onto one of the deed
restricted clearing areas. What we've proposed in an increase building front setback of fifty feet. Mike
would like to locate the septic system in the front yard that would accommodate that. This shows on the
hundred foot lot we would meet the setbacks, yes our fifteen zone even allows us enough space to do a side
access driveway if we wanted to and also have all the amenities of a single family house. At this particular
point we have a forty-five deep clearing restricted area so the back of that property will be forever treed. It
is also our intent that within some deed restrictions and clearing restrictions we will try to preserve trees
along the property line as much as possible we will look to find that whenever we get into the PUD. This
other lot is lot seventy-nine which is back here along the top of the bluff. This particular lot was selected at
this point this is the lot that is closest to the woodland. From the rear of the lot line on that lot to the end of
the woodland is a hundred and eighty feet the lot itself is a hundred and eighty feet deep. The other
example, we have a minimum setback in front of fifty feet allowing the septic field in the front which
provides over three hundred feet, I think it's around three hundred and forty feet separation from the leach
field the edge of the woodland. Also, as you can see here with this wider lot there is plenty of access area
for a side access garage and still allows a backyard over a hundred feet. In addition what Mike has
suggested is there was some concern about building near the top of the bank that you would consider
another area, have a forty foot setback which would be for no building at all including accessory structures
or anything like that there would be nothing along the top. This particular lot in part of our planning
process we maintained a minimum, I believe fifteen feet from the top of the bank to the back of the
property line. The top of the bank in this particular lot runs across here and we have about thirty-six feet
from the closest point of the top of that bank to the back of the lot line. The purpose for this would be at
some point if there was to be a town bike trail or something there could adequate flat along the top of that
berm to provide that. Our concern here is to provide that wooded slope as a buffer area so it would never
be cleared. That would be dedicated to the town so that any of this development is back from the bank and
will not be visible from the woodland and will not be visible from developments to the west.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Jim, excuse me a minute. When you are using the term woodland and you
are using it to how far away you will be from it are you using the flagged line of the woodland is that where
you are measuring from?
MR. MILLER-Yes.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Yes.
MR. MILLER-With that, I guess that's an overview of where we are in the planning.
ATTORNEY O'CONNOR-I'll leave these up here for comment. We have a couple other submittal's to
make, but let's hear the comments and then I'll make the submittal's.
SUPERVISOR CHAMP AGNE- Thank you. Okay, we'll open this up for the public.
DAVE WELCH, CHAIRMAN AND DEDICATED SPOKESPERSON FOR THE QUEENSBURY
ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE- (Presented Board members with copy of letter, attached to minutes)
We we're asked by the Planning Board to take a look at this project from an environmental perspective and
I have a couple of comments. The current zoning of this property that is being debated tonight is an R-3
zone which means that it is three acre properties. If this entire project was developed under those
guidelines it would allow twenty-eight houses to be built in here. One of our concerns is the rise in the
density that this project proposes going essentially from a minimum of twenty-eight houses up to as many
as a hundred eighty four dwelling units. The concerns resolves around basically two problems and some of
these are pointed out. This is a woodland, out of a hundred and some odd acres that are here the designated
woodland represents about fifty acres of this, and it's basically up here in the upper right hand corner as you
are looking at it from out there. For the purpose of orientation in this you should realize that north is to
your right unlike most maps. The drop off is designated, drops about sixty feet from the level land that the
school property is on and so on down to that woodland area, it is a steep slope. It was pointed out that the
soils under here are largely sand and the perc test have already indicated a rapid migration of fluid through
them. A big part of our concern is that with this increase in density and all running off of sewer systems is
that we are feeding a lot of potential material into the aquifer that underlies that sandy upland area. All of
that flow goes towards the Rush Pond woodland which eventually flows into Glen Lake. We're concerned
about a high density of moisture, a high density of runoff primarily from sewage, but also secondary
problem of runoff of stormwater. Stormwater is actually the second largest cause of pollutants and with
this many houses, lawns, that much fertilizer, etc., the stormwater runoff is also significant. The second
problem is pointed out in terms of the archaeological dig more or less along the top of the berrn. Our
concern is that the density particularly along the northwest border of the proposed development is denser
than we would like it. Although we think there is a definite need for housing of this type, and this is a good
location because of the proximity to the school, and the fact that it would allow kids to get to school
without having to bus, etc., our concern is that much of this development is toward the berm and the actual
highest density tends to be in that direction. Not to be totally negative we have a couple of positive things
to say about this project in addition to its relative need in terms of housing and relatively low cost housing.
The fact that the developer has included the concept of expanding trail systems, bike systems, directly to
the school and to access the woodland area is a very strong plus and we would like to continue to work with
him in that regard because it is a kind of thing we'd like to see all planned unit developments do. The one
other comment is that in the DEC review of this project it was noted that infamous Kamer Blue Butterfly
does have some habitat in this area. It was recommended as part of the project efforts be made to maintain
some of that habitat. Have I left anything out, gentlemen?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Thanks, Dave.
ATTORNEY O'CONNOR-Do you want me to wait?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-If you would at this point. Anyone else?
RICK HAAG, 15 FOX HOLLOW LANE, QUEENSBURY, RESIDENT OF ONE OF THE AREAS
THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY REZONING. (Presented Board members with copy ofletter,
attached to minutes) My presentation deals with some observations that I've made and also takes into
considerations opinions, and considerations, and questions of the residents of Fox Hollow neighborhood as
well as a few other areas in the general area ofFarr Lane, Dixon Road, Potter Road, area. As I said early
when I talked to you on the phone Fred, I guess I do have materials that I'd like to hand out to the members
of the board. I would like the opportunity to review or at least discuss some of the points that have been
raised by the residents in the local neighborhoods. In the interest of time saving, I don't want to go over, as
I said to you earlier, I would like to have the material I have entered as part of the minutes in some fashion
where it would not need to be read word for word unless that's your wish.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Excuse me, Rick. Can we have that attachment to the minutes without
having them read in? Thank you.
MR. HAAG-Before I go through them, I'd like to pass them out to you.
ATTORNEY SCHACHNER -You might just want to note for the record that obviously anything being
submitted is public information and available for anyone's review at any time.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Sure.
MR. HAAG-I do have extra copies in the back if anybody would like them there are a few here and I do
have extras. What I would like to do is to present the questions, concerns, that myself and some of the
other town residents have in response to the relation to the nine part Town of Queensbury rezoning
application. The information is compared in following the Town of Queensbury Comprehensive Land Use
Plan Booklet. I realize that it is 1989, however, my understanding is that it has not been updated and that it
is the current document that the Planning Department etc., is the agency to be responsible for that. Let me
go through some of the areas at least I will have the opportunity to bring some things to your attention. The
first question that was addressed on the petition for rezoning dealt with the developer stating the applicant
was for developing affordable housing and expansion of senior housing, emergency access to school
property, mix of housing, preservation of open space and bike trail connection. Believe me, I know the
need for it propose affordable housing, I am a father of four daughters. The range of prices that they are
mentioning in the Post Star articles and was mentioned to some of the residences that were able to attend
the meeting that Mike and Mike met with the people. The $80,000 to $100,000 ranges and the density that
which the proposal addressees this rezoning, I think it is certainly something for consideration to know that
there are according to the Warren County Association of Realtors existing in Queensbury a 119 single
family residences for sale as of March 1st in that price range. They take into consideration the Hudson
Pointe, Inspiration Point and other areas within the Town of Queensbury. The number of single family
houses that I mention here does not take into account Glens Falls or the surrounding Tri-County areas. I
have attached to the material that I have assembled information from the New York State Municipal Profile
of Queens bury, Glens Falls, and Warren County. I think looking at some of the material as reference to
median price housing for Queensbury which is stated as being $106,200. Glens Falls being $81,200,
Warren County being $91,200. There are some variations here as to what we're looking at as reality and
some of the mentioned proposals or rezoning and increasing the density. Certainly there are politically
correct terms, I think perhaps some consideration should be given to changing this existing zoning from the
three acre lots to such a high density may not be in the best interest of the community. Certainly senior
housing is a viable concern and an issue. That's one thing that I think that should be identified. I'm not
certain that all of the considerations have been weighed and looked at in terms of the senior housing. I
know that Solomon Heights exists, I know that there is property in that zoning area for additional
development for senior housing. I think certainly that's a worthwhile endeavor, but should not be used
simply as something as a term to make the rezoning appear to be something that it may not in fact be.
Certainly with the National Church Residence doing the Solomon Heights the particular stipulations
regarding federal monies that mayor may not be there that is something that we think is yet a speculative
or uncertain thing at best. Hopefully there would be something that could be accomplished in increasing
the number of units available for senior housing. It certainly should be studied and not just allowed to be
tagged onto a propose rezoning. Emergency access that was mentioned. Personally, I would object to the
fact that this is being proposed as a reason for the rezoning. Queensbury Town Schools are certainly close
to several different fire stations. I would think that the rezoning should not be attached to the possibility
that there is a need for access to Queensbury School. Certainly the broad mix of housing with a need for
diversity in and around Queensbury, and in and around the particular area with John Burke down near the
Northway. There are other housing areas in the Cottage Hill area so there is quite a broad mix in our
general area there are Dixon Heights, Aviation Road, Potter Road. The proposed preservation of open
spaces as Dr. Welch pointed out is really undevelopable and unbuildable to land. We certainly have in the
Town some difference of opinion as to building on the waters of Lake George, I think this would be the
same type of thing. I think that this is something certainly the town would be.. . and consider the fact that
the area that is being developed is something that would be undevelopable. The bike path is a nice and a
good thing. I like to bike most of my children do. A lot of people do it, it is good for cardiovascular, your
health, but I would be concerned that is a big consideration in terms of rezoning. Question three on the
application for rezoning. Proposed zone compatible with adjacent zones? Currently as I mentioned the
area in our general vicinity has a mix of housing and price range in all respects. The proposed medical
facility that is mentioned on the application for rezoning was not mentioned this evening, but now the day
care or public community center is something that is being introduced. I think certainly knowing what or if
things are going to be done in relation...building of such structures. Beginning on page three the review of
the Comprehensive Land Use Plan. The Aviation Road, Dixon Road, is already recommended as an area
identified for addition to the sewer system, although our area in that general vicinity would still have access
to public water. There still is a concern again as Dr. Welch pointed out about the sanitary sewers. The
soils in that area are identified as Hinckley they do have a very high rate of perc. There is a question as to
the density there even though one of these studies done indicates that the soil is unsuitable farming because
it will not hold water. I think conversely if it is not going to hold water or growth, not necessarily crops
we're certainly not that rural in terms of rural anymore, but it is also going to allow some of the sewage and
leachate, pesticides, herbicides, fertilizer, road salt, oil, what have you, to leach through. It has been
pointed out that the area does drain towards the woodland towards Rush Pond and then on into the Glen
Lake area where there is use of that water supply for consumption in some areas at the Glen Lake area.
The bottom of page three. The density changes, again this is right from the Land Use Plan. Especially on
the west side of the town where determined in part by a lack of sewer facilitates and the presence of high
per soils. It was identified in eighty-nine as an area that should be at a lower density housing simply
because of the soil conditions. If you look at the top of page four, it goes along to say, higher density
housing should be built in areas with adequate water which this certainly would have. The residents would
feel that would not be that much of an issue anymore that the lack of sewer services certainly would be
something that we would be concerned about. That the density, again going without proper connections to
sewers in that area would be a definite threat to the aquifer and the water in that particular area. As you
reference in the soil study that was done the housing units, mixing of apartments, single family, and senior
housing, as not being the problem. Again, I don't feel that the study is addressing the fact that the density is
going to be as great as it is. It is not getting into cluster housing as the density of which the rezoning would
allow the building to take place. It is not putting a townhouse in the middle of a three acre site and having
enough space, enough land, to produce the best condition for the town. The proposed proximity to the
school. I don't know if that is necessarily a rezoning concern. It certainly is a factor in terms of if your son
or daughter sleep late getting him or her to school quick or making sure they are still there on time. But,
this isn't an issue really that is....to rezoning that particular area. I lived in three different houses in that
general area certainly this is sort of a nice amenity. However, I wouldn't suggest that's something the
planning people or the town consider for rezoning that entire area in any way shape or form. Certainly in
terms of the school, I mentioned the fact the Superintendent was at one of our meetings when Mike
O'Connor, Mike Vasiliou were there. The Superintendent spoke that they in fact they are going to put some
portable classrooms at the campus this year. In terms of growth or increase in the student population. It
would be a concern if there is a large number not necessarily saying that be given because the way the job
market and moving and getting back and forth at this particular point. But, certainly the school would have
to be concern about new construction, greater staffing, additional transportation costs, and the development
of a special needs facilities of if a large influx should happen because of the increase density on changing
the rezoning. Proximity to shopping areas. If that becomes a criteria for rezoning, I don't know where that
one came frorn. But certainly again, we all like to be close and convenient to areas that we frequent the
grocery store, mall, or whatever it is, but that's not a criteria for rezoning the area with such a density.
Certainly with the sewer plans that in Saturday's paper mentioned the town is not pursuing at this point Mr.
Passarelli's development on Bay and Meadowbrook because of the expense. I think that's something that
this area and our area would certainly use as critical with the woodland and the possible drainage into the
aquifer and the water supply of the Town of Queensbury. Question five. How will the proposed affect will
affect public facilities? Traffic, there probably are some people here that leave a little later than I do in the
morning. But, traffic if you go back and forth according to what the traffic study was indicating in the
early morning hours as well as the later afternoon hours it can be quite an experience, an atrocious
experience. It certainly isn't the Long Island Express Way, but it's certainly aggravating. I think one of the
other points that was brought out in terms of traffic which was not addressed or considered was the fact that
eventually the watershed property that borders Dixon, Aviation, Potter Road, over through Peggy Ann,
certainly at some time is not going to support the Glens Falls drinking water requirement. Whether the
town considers some kind of action to develop that on their part or it's sold to developers that will create an
additional monumental traffic load to that particular area all the way from Potter down to the Plug Mill,
back and forth between Peggy Ann, and the Aviation Road area. The traffic light that bottlenecks things it
either backs traffic up further. Our plans we were told that the town is going to increase the roadway from
the Northway bridge up through to the schools to three lanes. That certainly will probably make it
convenient to move from more of a direct line of fire by traffic coming east on Aviation Road. However, I
would venture to speculate those left turning vehicles will bottleneck to a point where they are going to
have to be in the right lane as well. It is not going to speed up the flow....it may help some by throwing a lot
of traffic untraditionally against development. It's something that I don't think is necessarily true
miscounting the cars at different intersections. Question six. That was answered on the current zoning
classifications not appropriate for the property in question. We didn't feel that the answer provided to this
question by the applicant does not address the stipulated question. The town has already established this
area as three acres for good reasons according to the Land Use Plan. Question seven. The environmental
impacts, Dr. Welch had mentioned things. Certainly the archeological data and the high probability
according to New York State Museum of Associates that this area could produce quite a bit of prehistoric
early american indian artifacts. To lose that or to border some of the area with the closeness of the
development along the bank area should be a very big concern. The critical environmental area which
according to the Land Use Plan takes into that account that woodland area as it feeds through Rush Pond
and Glen Lake. The liability for the town if they accept the undevelopable area there. The wetlands if
somebody goes off the bike path, somebody walks out through that way, a small child or something should
fall in, it could certainly result in some monumental litigation, in managing that area as far as requirements
of the town in money and manpower it is certainly something for you to consider. A possible walkway
mentioned, again that's not something really is a big matter for rezoning. It is nice to have bike paths along
the road and walkways and they are needed for the safety and health of the people in the areas, but it is in a
particular plan not just for rezoning. Question eight. Dealt with how is the proposal compatible with the
relevant portions of a Land Use Plan. From what we've looked at we certainly felt that some of the
considerations were in direct conflict of what has already been put out in our own Queensbury Land Use
Plan Document. There are so many different things that really do not go along with the portions of the
Land Use Document. Possibility of duplexes, as far as the proposal or possibility of, at one point they were
mentioned as mother-in-law duplexes. The possibility of having grandchildren close by for visiting is very
nice, but again this is something that is not necessarily strictly a rezoning thing. Certainly without the
housing that is already in the town the control of those types of things would be of a concern. Many
different things in terms of the existing approved affordable housing developments those developments, a
phone check with developments that are in existence now indicates that those lots that I've mentioned in
here of three hundred do not take into account already approved second and third phase or beyond that
approvals for those particular areas. On page eight, I've gone through and listed some other things of
important information and concerns that we have. Most of these have been eluded too, a few more points
to consider. On page eight, the Queensbury School District at one time offered to purchase that property
and they were refused. That is something, I think that perhaps that the overall goal of the town would be a
benefit. What is the advantage of the town to change that current zoning to from three acres to a higher
density. Have the board members walked that particular area? Not necessarily when it's freezing blowing
cold, but to see what we do have there as a natural resource. Finally the recommendations that our people
would like to propose. We urge that the Town Board, based on the answers provided require extensive
modifications to the proposal which would severely limit the size and area of the development, the SR-15
request is unacceptable given the potential impacts and property limitations. Secondly, we further urge the
Town Board to require any potential development on these lots to prepare a full Environmental Impact
Statement. Lastly, we request any approvals be contingent upon expansion of the sewer district to these
lots in the rezoning area. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Thank you. Rick you've done your homework. Anyone else? You'll have
to fight over it, ladies before gentlemen. Take a seat right there Dan, you're in the front row.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-In the interest of having this an orderly hearing, I would ask that people not
clap showing their support for positions. I think that leads to a disorderly conduct of a meeting.
JOAN DOEBERT-I live at 15 Baywood Drive, Queensbury. I'm speaking tonight for Southern Adirondack
Audubon Society which is a local Chapter of the National Audubon Society. Our board met last week to
address this problem to see where our position was. May, I just preface it by telling you that our board and
our organization did work with the Michaels Group with their PUD, Hudson Pointe. Mike O'Connor, we
were involved in that it came up as kind of win win situation for everyone. The board also feels that the
focus of Audubon is to preserve the integrity of the wildlife and the wetlands so that is what we are
addressing. David Welch stated most of our concerns and I'll just repeat a couple of thern. The other thing
I want to make perfectly clear is that Southern Adirondack Audubon Society does not wish to be in an
obstructive position. This land is privately owned and people do have a right to develop, but it must be
done within the grounds that will protect the integrity of the wetlands and the wildlife. Our main concern is
the high density. It goes from a twenty-six, twenty-eight, possible unit as it stands right now it's RR-3, to a
hundred eighty four that's about a seven hundred, eight hundred, percent increase in density. We are very
concerned that this will be too much for the surrounding community as it is. The possible increase in school
population that this will be too much for the wetland and the aquifer. Again, there is great concern that this
will seep into the Glen Lake Waters. Since know one has sewers around we really do have to be concerned
with that. With that high density concern Southern Adirondack would really like to see Planned Unit
Development as it is right now. We don't really want to see it change from RR-3 to SR-15. That is fifteen
thousand square feet about a third of an acre. I think it's much to small maybe somewhere in between there
would be reasonable. With all of that in mind this definitely needs to have a much wider buffer zone in the
back end of that across, you know across the wetlands. That is mainly our focus to protect the integrity of
the wetland and the wildlife. The other organizations, I'm sure will deal with the rest. As it stands right
now we're in opposition to changing it from RR-3 to SR-15. Thank you.
DAN MORRELL-Thank you. Mr. Supervisor, Board Members. I'd like to reply on some things to the
audience here.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Excuse me, please could we have your name and address for the record.
DAN MORRELL, 17 L YNNFIELD DRIVE, QUEENSBURY-I graduated from Queensbury School in
1954. I started there when it opened in September 1949. In 1950, I had a paper route when used to have
afternoon Glens Falls Times. My papers dropped off at the Middle School and my route took me my all the
way to Suttons and every road in between I had every single customer private and commercial, twenty-
nine. I lived on 17 Lynnfield Drive for thirty-two years. When we moved there we had rolling fields
behind us a beautiful view of French Mountain now we can't see it, it's all developed. Our kids used to play
in place called Buckman's Hill which is now Fox Hollow. What, I'm trying to get you to think as an
audience, and as the Town Board, and Planning Board, we raised six children they played in that area, we
now have nine grandchildren. When you make decisions please don't shut out my grandchildren they need
a place to live too when they grow up. You may have grandchildren, you may have children of your own,
they are going to have to have a place to live. They might have a dream same as yours to own their own
castle. Thank you very much.
PAUL ADAMS, REPRESENTING NATIONAL CHURCH RESIDENCE-Most of you know that
Solomon Heights is right next door to this development. Solomon Heights currently serves forty senior
citizens that are some people's grandparents, some people's aunt's and uncle's. I think everybody realizes
that we are serving a community and we are providing a need. In regards to your density situation with this
entire development. If we're to build a forty unit apartment complex that would mean a hundred and eighty
would go up to a hundred and forty. Based on a hundred and forty units over seven years you are looking
at twenty houses in this development, five years you are looking at thirty. The water usage at Solomon
Heights, I think the Water Board can hear me out on this. The average family home should use about forty
gallons in a day. As a senior citizens residences complex, I think if you view our gallon usage we're talking
about twenty gallons per day per senior citizen possibly even less. We're talking about how much water
might be going into the ground and the saturation point. You can see that the senior citizen center would
help you in regard to keeping the influx of affluent's going into your water system. Now, I know this
doesn't necessarily help everybody out because there is a density issue here. When we start talking about
traffic the senior citizens at Solomon Heights, again there are forty of them and there are nineteen cars at
the facility. Again, we're reducing the amount of traffic in the area by having senior citizens in this
development that also reduces the overall traffic within the development. In regards to being good
neighbors. Our senior citizens take the buses and a few of them drive, but most of them are using the
community services. They do not go out of town they stay within town so their money is spent within the
Town of Queensbury not down state or at any of the other malls so they become good neighbors in that
respect. Impacts on school systems obviously very minimal senior citizens don't have any children. The
other obvious reasons for having a senior citizens in your neighborhood is there is no crime rate. There is
no problem with senior citizens committing much crime. They are normally a very welcomed addition to a
neighborhood. There has been some talk that we could possibly work out in conjunction with other
agencies in the town a training center here for the home health aides which also might be available and a
service to the community. It might be an expansion of a senior citizen center there that would be made
available for other activities. The one thing that I have not discussed, you know this project was brought to
me early on is the program that we call Pilot Program. Pilot Program is payment in lieu of taxes, this is a
State Program. Someone else brought up the fact in regards to funding. As you know the Federal
Government is not going to fund too many more of these projects. However, in the next few years this
federal money is still going to be available and we have a good track record. However, there is state money
available this is what we call Tax Credit Prograrn. Tax Credit Program doesn't require us to go out and
seek federal money. Tax Credit Program is basically a bond sold to the industrial developers within the
area. GE or anybody could buy them and because they buy them the funds go to the project so the project
can be built. They get a tax credit over a period of ten years on their taxes because this would be that type
of housing or we could put that type of housing in the area. The rent would be slightly higher than
Solomon Heights, however, we would be paying a payment in lieu of taxes for the land. This five acre
portion that we're talking about would not be removed from the tax role and I know sometimes that's a
problem to the people. These are the things that I would like you to consider as you go through this. I
know this five acre zoning is only a small segment of the development, but I don't know of any other town
that would be growing at a rate of only twenty houses over a seven year period. I think you all know that
Glens Falls and the Queensbury area is growing rapidly there is a lot of industry, light industry. I know
that you had some problems with the mills. However, the problems that you had in the past is moving in
your favor. I know you've had problems and say, well you know I've lost a lot of industry. I live in the
area, I know the industry you've lost. They were also high water users in some cases they are pollutants, so
I want you to keep that in mind. You know your area is growing and your amount of houses for sale is not
indicative to the need for houses within your area, it just says how many houses are for sale. Take a look at
how many houses in your area are for sale in a year. Over a period of time you'll find that a need for
housing does exist within your community. These gentlemen would not be putting forth this program if
they did not think so they are not interested in losing money.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Thank you.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Paul one question, please. What's the waiting list at Solomon Heights?
MR. AD AMS- The waiting list right now at Solomon Heights is seventy senior citizens. That will give you
an idea on the need for your grandmother's and grandfather's, aunt's, and uncle's, and any other family
member might have in moving into the area. National Church Residences is a non-affiliated Church
affiliated company. We are coast to coast and we have over a hundred and forty six of these facilities
throughout the country.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Thank you.
HOWARD SHAMES, 40 FOX HOLLOW LANE, QUEENSBURY-I believe there is currently a plan for
additional senior citizen housing that exists on additional five acres at the Solomon Heights location?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Not to my knowledge.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-This is the five acres we're talking about right now that's part of this project
right here.
MR. SHAMES-First of all, I don't think anybody has any objections to any additional senior citizen
housing. I don't think that is the question here I think nobody objects to it. Compared to what we're
looking at we have two extremes. We have an extreme of three acre zoning to going down to a third of an
acre. I think that the responsibility of the town is to the community and to the environment and that we
have to look at this and reevaluate what we have here. I think some serious issues have been brought up
and we need to really examine them and see if there is some sort of ground that we can meet that's going to
again, serve the community and the environment. Maybe the three acres is too extreme, but right now we
are looking at too dense of a population. I think that we need some very good input of why we should be
looking at this further. Again, I don't think that anybody is not looking to have that land developed. There
is a need for housing here no one is really against that it's just how dense it is.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Thank you Howard. Anyone else care to speak?
JEFF KILBURN, 11 FOX HOLLOW, QUEENSBURY-I have a four page submission which like Rick
Haag, I would like to just incorporate as part of the minutes. I have two concerns.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Jeff you're going to have to get on tape.
JEFF KILBURN, 11 FOX HOLLOW LANE, QUEENSBURY-I have a four page submission primarily
dealing with the Queensbury Comprehensive Land Use Plan. The Land Use Plan was drafted in the same
month that I became a landowner in the Town of Queensbury. That's not relevant, but it's reasonably new.
I'm a newcomer and I'm not trying to close the door behind me. What, I would say to you is that any
environmental impact to this little piece of water here is going to migrate and migrate for a long time and a
long way. I suggest to you that you remember what happened at the landfill and that you remember what
happened in the Hudson River with PCB's. Please take your time and review very carefully what it is in the
Queensbury Comprehensive Land Use Plan dealing with these issue. That was a long drawn out process
I'm sure, and a lot of careful consideration was put into it. Again, it's getting late and I don't want to bore
you. I have copies here for anyone else that would like them, but please do not rush to judgement on this.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Thank you.
ANDREA EICHLER-9 HUMMINGBIRD LANE, QUEENSBURY-I don't live near Fox Hollow, I live on
Hummingbird Lane. While, I'm not directly affected as far as land use goes. I feel everyone in the town is
affected by the potential increase in the population. My real question actually, I heard a lot about R-3
zoning, three acres. I don't understand why it was zoned that originally. If it was zoned that originally was
the reason for that?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-You are asking me a good question. I wasn't here at the time. Can I defer
this to someone that might have been here at the time to answer that question?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Jim you looked at that zoning and all the zoning around it. Do you have an
answer for that question?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I think the submission that was made early on by Mr. Haag is
substantially correct. The feeling at the time was that the high perc soils were outside of the realm of
acceptability because the zoning at the time was UR-5 which is one dwelling for every five thousand square
feet prior to 1988. I think they found evidence of the high perc soils and made the change that's the
primary reason that I've come across.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Anyone else care to speak?
EUGENE HUGHTO, 9 PINION PINE, QUEENSBURY-It is off Potter Road which intersects that major
intersection which I'm going to assume you will end up putting a traffic light at. I also own property in
Queen Victoria Grant one of the other developments here for affordable housing. I'm also on the Board of
Directors of Queensbury Victoria Grant. It was stated that there are a hundred and nineteen units in that
price range for sale by the realtors. I drove through today in Queen Victoria Grant there are thirteen signs
by realtors, there are eight for sale by owners, those are not included in your figures. Also as Spring
comes, I'm sure more will pop up as customary every Spring in that development in particular. You are
talking about affordable housing. These units are eighty thousand and up. Queen Victoria Grant's now has
units for sale begging for buyers under sixty thousand up into the seventy thousand range. I don't see how
adding houses of this price is going to help any house that is for sale that are suppose to be affordable by
calling these affordable. Another concern of mine is the density. When I moved to Queensbury we built
our house about nine years ago. I was pleased when the Land Use Plan went through limiting density in the
Town of Queensbury. The intersection of Fox Farm Lane and Potter where it intersects Aviation is a
problem now. I presume a traffic light will be put there in the future. Are you sure that three lanes from
the Northway to that point is going to be enough when you start putting density nine times above what the
original Land Use Plan was? I think five lanes such as Clifton Park might be more appropriate. I don't
want to live here if we start having that. I work in Clifton Park and I really do not want to live down there
either. Also the damage to Glen Lake possibly from the leachate. My wife and I were planning in the
future possible buying a place on Glen Lake, we like the area. One of the things we like about Glen Lake is
the water. If it's going to be contaminated by sewage that would not be a primary interest of us any longer.
As far any complaints and there haven't been any if that won't affect the water in Glen Lake. I'd like to
bring a couple things to point about water and sewage occurring. Queensbury Forest has a water drainage
problem. I as a owner in Queen Victoria Grant and on the Board of Directors in Queen Victoria Grant have
a water problem. As far as any reports that this is not going to cause a problem there at the new
development, I take it all with a grain of salt because there wasn't suppose to be a problem in either of our
developments. Mother-in-law apartments....there is common absentee landlords. Queen Victoria Grant a
third of the units are rental units over there, I being one of them there are some absentee landlords. I'm sure
the new development, I don't know if they are going to have a homeowners association or what they will
have.....duplexes by their nature are commonly bought as rentals. One word of closing, there has been
some concern expressed about senior citizens. I'm one hundred percent for more senior citizen housing in
the area, there is a definite need for it. As stated, they don't use all the resources they don't have as much
sewage. They don't have as much compacted trash as single family homes. A lot of us do have parents we
may need them ourselves in a couple of years, it is a resource that we could use. We don't need more town
homes, we don't need a high density neighborhood like this. We have a decent mix now one acre possibly,
a third of an acre, our schools are stressed as it is we don't need the high density. Our area is going to
require more schools in the future. We have a lot ofland available to build on and it will be built on in the
future the watershed area in particular is a possibility. Let's please try to keep it an acre lot otherwise we're
really going to live in an area like Clifton Park something like that. If you want to live in Clifton Park feel
free too, but let's keep this Queensbury.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Anyone else care to speak? Yes, sir.
MARK HOFFMAN, 32 FOX HOLLOW LANE, QUEENSBURY-I'm not going to repeat the same
discussions that have gone on previously. I would just like to reiterate that I have many of the same
reservations
that have been previously discussed in interest of time I won't repeat those. I also would like to state that I
would like to express my appreciation for the citizens who have taken the time to research this issue and
provide more data than I am prepared to provide. In terms of personal perspective. I would like to say that
I moved to Fox Hollow a few years ago. One of the attractions of the area was the liveability of it the lack
of congestion. I moved to it from an area that was becoming over developed. When I moved in I was
under the assumption that there was zoning that would protect the quality of the neighborhood that it would
protect the density. I would like to also comment that I think there are some buzz words that have been
used to try and make this project more palatable. One of them is affordability. I think a number of people
have already explained that there is abundant housing currently available in this price range. I think there
are other developments which have legitimately used the term "affordable housing" which involved
subsidized housing, that involved nonprofit institutions, that provide grants to people. To my knowledge
with the exception with the senior housing which everyone seems to be in favor of this doesn't appear to be
an element of the current proposal. I think to some extent it does disservice the legitimate use of the term
"affordable housing". Also, I just wanted to mention maybe there was a little bit of a hint of demography
earlier with the implication that we would not be opposed to this development if they were three hundred
thousand dollar homes, I haven't heard anyone tonight make that argument. I think the issue here is
density, the issue is congestion, the issue is the environment it has nothing to do with the size of the house.
The other catch word which I heard used with respect to this project is "cluster housing". I'm not sure what
exactly the legal or planning definition of the term cluster housing is. When I think of cluster housing, I
think of a define number of houses in a particular amount of area which is moved into a smaller area, a
smaller area that has a increase density in order to preserve more open space. What we're talking here is
not simply clustering we're talking about a major increase in the density of the overall project well beyond
what was initially intended and out of proportion to the other areas that are adjacent to it. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Anyone else care to speak? Over here on my right.
COURTNEY BUNTLEY, 21 BONNER DRIVE, QUEENSBURY-Granted, I'm not in the planned
development to a point. I work for the Travelers Insurance Company which usually takes me eight minutes
now takes me thirty minutes to get from Aviation to my home to Travelers. I'm really opposed to this.
There is so much traffic on Aviation Road as it is. I'm for affordable housing for the elderly, but I look at
this and there is too much traffic on Aviation for little kids to go bicycling or anything. I'm just really
opposed to this.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Thank you.
PAUL ABESS, 5 WINCREST DRIVE, QUEENSBURY-Ijust want to make a few points a lot of them
were well made earlier. A couple, I think weren't made yet unless I missed them. We've talked a lot of the
shortage of recreation areas especially in the western park of town. I don't know how aware people are the
trails that go through the Rush Pond area especially access from Queensbury School Parking lot area and
the Little League Fields are used also by the Queensbury Cross Country Teams. I know if you go back
through there some of them are marked. I know some of them are not marked as used by the Junior High.
They are used by the seventh and eighth graders so that would take away some of their area for running.
Also quite often you see people parked by the Little League Field or in the parking lot back by the
Elementary School, people go in there for walks they take their dogs, ride their bikes it is a recreational
area. I might suggest to look into the possibility instead of a development maybe the Board looking into
possibility of purchasing the area because we need recreational areas and that is a good area. There is a lot
of wild life in there, I was surprised it wasn't mentioned by the Audubon Society person, but I believe they
are breeding blue herons in there. Even if you are within a hundred and eighty feet of those they won't be
there any longer. The last thing I did, I just wanted to emphasize the point that was made. I know it bothers
a lot of us who live in that part of town and have kids who go to school at Queensbury who have to get
through to the other part of town. That Aviation Road traffic is horrendous and getting off and on to
Aviation Road especially in the school area, it is very difficult and it certainly won't be any easier with that
kind of development there.
SUPERVISOR CHAMP AGNE- Thank you. Let's take this gentlemen right here.
NICK NICHOLSON, LUZERNE ROAD, QUEENSBURY-I don't even live next to this. My problem is, I
don't think it's been mentioned. I can't understand how the town can make the zoning laws that came into
effect, I think around sixty-eight it was for the good of all the people who live here and then they go along
and break them all mostly for the developers. My complaint, I'm not against developers, but I am against
paying for their development and this is what's happening in our town. We're over taxed and I think
everyone knows that. One gentlemen came up here and made perfect example of it how these grants are
going to run out like the grants are a gift from god they are not. If they come from the State, I'm paying for
it and everybody else is paying for it. I like to see the developer pay these things. When he is going to
densely put all those places there even at two kids in a house you've got another school to build. It bothers
me that I'm paying for them to develop this. If they want to develop it fine then pay for the school, too then
build the school. The other gentlemen said maybe we should put sewers in. Well, I'm going to pay for that
again. Then the roads, I'm going to pay for that again. My complaint is, I think you should look at the
great cost you are going to make for everybody else. I live in another part in the town so I've got no
problem they can have them all there, but I just don't want to pay for it.
RYAN RHODES, SENIOR AT QUEENSBURY HIGH SCHOOL-I'm a member of the Cross Country
Track and Ski Teams. I just like to make you aware that we utilize the land behind the schools quite a bit
for training and other things. I know we used to have a real nice cross country trail back there that we're
not able to use anymore I'm not sure of the whole issue of that. I know it is real nice to go back there a lot
and run and I wouldn't like to see us lose that.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Thank you.
RICK ATKINSON, 6 DORSET PLACE, QUEENSBURY-I have two points basically. One ofthern.....
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I'm sorry they can't hear you in the back.
MR. ATKINSON-One of my concerns has to do with something that has already been addressed which has
to do with the number of houses already available. It also comes down to a question of property values. I
can say that I bought my house five years ago it had already been on the market for two and a half years. I
can tell you that there are other houses in my neighborhood that have been on the market for a considerable
amount of time. The price range we're talking about here if you go up to a realtor and say, I'd like to look
at a house in this range you better have time on your hands. The other point is that I came here from
northern New Jersey and if you ever want to see traffic from over development of already busy areas you
can visit my former neighborhood. I think anybody who travels up and down Aviation Road can tell you
about the traffic jams that develop most especially by the intersection of Dixon and Potter which is exactly
where you are going to be putting all of this traffic in and out. I don't think it's safe and I think it's going to
significantly hurt the area. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Thank you. Anyone else?
PLINEY TUCKER, QUEENSBURY-My question has to do with the ownership of the property. Does the
developer own this property at the present time?
ATTORNEY O'CONNOR-We have a contractual interest and a option on the property.
MR. TUCKER-Is your client a agent for the people that own the property or is he going to develop it
himself?
ATTORNEY O'CONNOR-We are the developer of the property. The infrastructure is going to be
provided to us. We are going to have a turn-key lot presented to us that is part of the package per whatever
approval the town gives to us.
SUPERVISOR CHAMP AGNE-Pliney he will answer those questions when you are finished. We're trying
to hold the questions from everyone so they can respond to all questions.
MR. TUCKER-The only thing I'd like to point out. I have nothing against Mike here, I know who he is,
both Mike's. We've had problems before in the town where we have approved zoning for land just as soon
as it gets done it gets sold then you have a heck of a time of keeping track of what people agree to. No
matter what the Board does or what the Planning Board does with this thing as far as zoning, I just wanted
to make sure maybe you can't do this is zone it for the developer and the developer only. If it should
change hands before any action is taken that the zoning doesn't go with the development.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Thank you. Anyone else?
LINDA WHITE, PEGGY ANN ROAD, QUEENSBURY-I want to address the issue of the sensitivity of
the area both as a natural resource and a cultural resource. I think some of the natural resources things have
been mentioned. Cultural resources have not been addressed to the extent that it should be. The first
survey was done by Park Associates and they strongly recommend a second survey be completed before
anything else is done to the property. They have found native american artifacts and because they have
done so subject to...federal process, I think those types of things need to be addressed. This area of
Queensbury has just been wonderful for cultural resources as well as the natural resources. I don't think
we're taking advantage of it as much as we could be. I think there are ways to mitigate it like we did with
Hudson Pointe perhaps change the density and not build along the bluff. There is already a roadway there
that could be used as the setback point and the rest of it left naturally that's where the cultural resources are
located so I think these things need to be addressed. I also would suggest that the members of the Planning
Board go out and walk the property prior to their agreement to this plan before they approve it. I would
strongly suggest that this be given consideration and perhaps go back to the Planning Board and then we
can all from there work together. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Thank you. Anyone else?
JOHN SCHUTZE, 12 HEINRICK CIRCLE, QUEENSBURY-I'm sorry, I came in late, I didn't hear
anything positive in the last few minutes, and I wanted to make sure I came in and said that I've known
Mike Vasiliou for the last twenty years, and know him very well enough to say his integrity is terrific, very
strong, and the quality of work that he does is excellent. I also can speak from my own experience in
working with the Town of Queensbury and knowing that in doing a development it is very important that
the neighbors and town be comfortable with the project. I was not able to leam about the details of this
project before tonight, but I sense that there is need for us as a community to decide what it is that we want
in that area, and to respect the fact that someone has paid to own that property, and has presumed the right
to develop it in some fashion it is not a public town property. I would just like to go on record saying that
I'm very much in favor of Mike Vasiliou as a developer in this community and I don't want him to be
discouraged. I'm very much encourage by Queensbury and that it is a place to live and that we should not
feel that we should close down Queensbury to development for fear that we might over grow.
I think that we have to grow in the proper way and I think we have to respect the fact that if we say that
we're over grown we start to get passed by, by business, outside interests that are very favorable to our
community so that is my purpose in speaking tonight. If there is not a clear consensus of our community of
what we want to do with that property then I would suggest that we all get together and make sure our ideas
come out on the floor and respect each other along the way.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Thanks. I guess that's why we're here tonight.
NICK CAIMANO, HENRICK CIRCLE, QUEENSBURY-Just a question, I encourage some confusion.
You are going through a rezoning for the purpose of a PUD. If, in fact the PUD fails will the zoning revert
back to the original or will it be stuck with the zoning as it is changed here?
ATTORNEY SCHACHNER-The way it is currently contemplated it would revert back to the original
current underline zoning.
MR. CAIMANO- That's what I thought, thank you very much.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-It was done all as one as I understand, is that correct? The Town Board
approval will be based on both the rezoning and the PUD approval?
ATTORNEY SCHACHNER-That's how we're proposing the review process take place, correct.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Okay, anyone else?
COUNCILMAN PULVER-Can we take five minutes?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I've been asked to take a five minute break does that meet with everyone's
satisfaction while we just stretch here? Thank you we will return in about five?
FIVE MINUTE RECESS
DEPUTY TOWN CLERK O'BRIEN-Read following letters into the record.
March 4, 1996
Connie Goedert
Councilwoman
Town of Queensbury
Dear Connie:
This letter is a follow up to our conversation on Saturday, March 2, 1996. Let us begin with the history of
the purchase of our land at 16 Fox Farm Road. In 1987, we talked to Jeff Kelley about the purchase of a lot
in a four-lot subdivision on Fox Farm Road. We found out that the land across from our proposed purchase
was under consideration for rezoning. The Town of Queensbury in 1986 or 87 was revising its Master
Plan. All of the zoning in the entire town was being updated. Because the zoning was in such a state of
flux, we instead held off our purchase of land and attended every rezoning meeting. Finally in 1988, the
Town of Queensbury decided to zone the parcel in question to RR3, rural residential 3 acres. We then
made the decision to go ahead and buy the land because of the rezoning to RR3. Our land is two and half
acres, so we gelt the type of home we would build would fit into the new zoning. In 1989, we began
building our home.
Now only seven years later, all the criteria used to zone this property RR3 now are thrown out the window
due to economic times? We are not against development but the drastic reduction in the lot sizes concerns
us. When we purchased our property, we were very aware of the two parcels left on Fox Farm. Both of
these lots are half acre lots with a deed restriction of a home no smaller than 1500 sq. ft. on the first floor.
Both of parcels have since sold and purchased by people who qualified for HUD loans.
Thank you for your time concerning this matter.
Sincerely,
Debbie Collin, Richard Collin
Queensbury Zoning Board
Town of Queensbury
742 Bay Road
Queensbury, NY 12804
Dear Board Members:
I am writing to express my extreme opposition to the proposal to change the zoning of the land that is being
called Fox Farm Estates. My property borders the land which is being considered for this zoning change.
When we built our home here nine years ago, this land was zoned for three acres. We selected our site with
this fact in mind and made an investment in our home. We had lived previously in a development more
densely populated and moved in order to have more property and privacy. It is certainly a blow to us to
find out that the Town of Queensbury does not care about our rights as homeowners and is considering
changing the applicable zoning restrictions in order to accommodate the desires of the developers in these
times of fluctuating economic conditions. Long after the developers have left and the economy has
improved, we will still be stuck with this huge, unnecessary development in our neighborhood. I am not
protesting development in that area. However, it is unfair to those of us who built here trusting the existing
zoning laws to protect us from overdevelopment, excessive noise, and extreme congestion. Building so
much housing in that area will have a tremendous detrimental effect on the entire Aviation Road area. One
of my main concerns is adding to the existing traffic problems on Aviation Road. It is difficult to exit from
Fox Farm Road on to Aviation Road now. I envision an impossible gridlock situation arising from unsafe
conditions caused by the tremendous volume of traffic ont he road. Even with the Town's plan to widen
Aviation Road, I still feel strongly that there will be severe traffic congestion as a result of this
development. My other main concern is that if a large number of homes are built, it will be necessary to
cut down the trees that serve as a noise barrier to the adjacent Northway. In the summer, with the increased
traffic, the noise levels are barely tolerable now. Removing many of the trees will only result in conditions
that are unbearable and adversely affect the quality of life we've worked so hard to achieve. It is my
understanding that the Queensbury School District offered to buy that land. If this is true, why was it not
sold to them? There are currently hundreds of homes for sale in the greater Glens Falls and Queensbury
areas. It is not necessary to build more homes when these homeowners are having great difficulty selling
theirs. Has a full environmental impact study been planned? Even though the building is planned in stages,
it is the cumulative effect that must be considered. It is my understanding that the DEC and SEQRA
regulations require that an environmental impact study be done. There are wetlands behind us and we have
significant water runoff. One hundred and forty new residences will produce additional problems. I also
object to naming the development Fox Farm Estates. There is already a Fox Farm Road and Fox Hollow
Lane that we live on. I feel that our road name should not be duplicated and its name used in a commercial
sense to sell additional property that reflects on the level of development we have in our neighborhood.
Who will pay for the upkeep of the open areas and community centers which are being proposed? Not the
Queensbury taxpayers I hope. How would the school benefit? For these questions and the reasons I have
listed, I strongly urge the Zoning Board to vote no to changing the zoning regulations for this area. One or
two acre minimum lot sizes would be more appropriate and less disruptive to the traffic patterns and create
less noise pollution. Thank you for your time and consideration in this matter.
Sincerely,
Dale Michael Harris
SUPERVISOR CHAMP AGNE- Thank you, Karen. Before I let you start Mike, Dr. Welch has an
announcement that he would like to make and then we'll get on with it.
DR. WELCH-Two comments. We've got a large group of people here tonight. We are looking for one or
two more members on our committee if somebody is interested in joining the Environmental Committee in
having an impact on these kind of projects send a resume to Fred and we'll take it into consideration. For
those of you wishing to come back here Wednesday night of this week there is a community meeting
regarding the PCB cleanup in the Sherman Island....
SUPERVISOR CHAMP AGNE- Thank you, David. Okay you're on Mike.
ATTORNEY O'CONNOR-Thank you, Mr. Supervisor. I thank everybody who has participated tonight.
We acknowledge the fact that we have a burden of going forward. We've heard the concerns and I think
the overall concern that I heard was the question of density. It was supported at least as I can tell by a
question as to whether or not the soil of the site would support that. I think that's a burden that we have, a
burden that we can meet. I think that we have demonstrated in what we have already submitted that from
an engineering point of view that we can meet that burden without having any impact on the adjoining
wetland or the areas that are actually serviced by that wetland. We may need to add some detail to that
some data to that. We have on board as part of our team an engineering firm that will address it, I think we
can meet the question that has been given as the premise for the concern. It was probably brought to the
center best by somebody saying, why was the property initially zoned from five thousand square feet per
dwelling to three acres per dwelling. Our understanding of that is that it was a broad brush approach to a
agricultural soil map as opposed to a site specific soil study or engineering study as to that site. That's what
we will bring to the table, that's what we believe will demonstrate that we can defend the density that we
talked about. I'm also curious as to some of the figures that we have because we actually did a computer
printout or had somebody do a computer printout for us today. We think there is a real need for this type
housing that we are proposing in Queensbury. I don't mean to dispute five houses this way or five houses
that way. But as of today based upon the multiple list in adding as somebody said to it maybe per units that
are not listed through multiple list that are listed independently with a broker or by owner. I think the board
will be surprised when it sees the actual numbers. Between ninety thousand there are thirty-four properties
in the Town of Queensbury. This is a list, I'm giving you just numbers off the active market list and this is
the asking price, not necessarily where the property is going to end up selling. Between ninety and hundred
there are eighteen units and all these aren't single family homes on a lot with a seller. Somebody spoke
about Queen Victoria Grant those are duplexes to a great extent. I believe almost all duplexes in there built
on slaps. Between a hundred and a hundred and ten thousand there are ten units. Between a hundred and
ten thousand and a hundred and twenty thousand there are twenty-one units. The total between eighty
thousand and a hundred and twenty thousand as of today listed through multiple listing in Warren County
in the Town of Queensbury with an asking price in that area there are only eighty-three units. I don't have
the history on each one those that has been on the market. I don't have a market analysis of how close they
are to actual value. I'm sure that people have asking prices greater than their value. I do think that we can
support the suggestion to you that there is a need for this type housing. I'll give you a sheet that has that
outlined on it. I also will give you seven letters, I believe. One from Fitzgerald Realty, Glens Falls, Inc,
one from Raynor Knapp Realty, one from Century 21, Boyle Realty, one from Balfour Realty, one from
Ambassador Associates, Better Homes and Gardens, one coming from Realty USA. None of these people
that wrote these letters are involved in this transaction that I am presenting to you that I know of. They are
just realtors who do business within the town who have addressed a question of whether or not there is a
need for this type housing within the town. Who have also in some instances have addressed a question
whether or not this will affect the values of surrounding property. Also some of whom are familiar with the
type housing that is built by this fellow developer and have recommended that quality of housing to the
Town Board. We also have a letter which we would ask to make part of the record from the New York
State Office of Parks Recreation and Historic Preservation which did the actual review of our archeological
study by Harding Associates, which indicated that based upon that, based upon our understanding, the
archeological finds will be avoided which is what we have done in our development plan. It is....opinion
that this project will have no impact upon cultural resources and are eligible for inclusion in the State and
National Registrar of Historical Places. We also have the study itself available if people haven't had the
chance to see it. We have no problem with anyone reviewing it and giving us input as to what their
comments might be. We truthfully recognize that there are varying interests in this application process and
there is a balancing that needs to be done and we're open to that. One comment that we had from one of the
neighborhood meetings. Again, it was a comment that was repeated tonight, people thought it was unfair
that we use the name Fox Hollow or Fox Farm as our development. That name was accepted or let me
state this for the record, that name was put forth because initially when this was looked at it was suppose to
have the main entrance to the property on Fox Farm Road. Since then when we really did an analysis of it
and everything else we found that it would not be acceptable the name was not changed. We'll stipulate
here tonight that the name of this project will change it will not be called Fox Farrn. I can't tell you as I sit
here what the name will be. We again, are open to input. Mr. Vasiliou will certainly have a lot of input on
that issue itself. If it creates a problem it's an unnecessary problem. It's something that we will listen too,
and is something that we will try to respond too. I tried to keep track of the comments and I'm sure we're
all going to get to share a copy of the minutes so I'm not going to try and address each of the comments. I
hope we keep this at a level where we do away with comparing it to problems like the PCB problem. What
has been proposed here, I think is a quality residential development one which will have no adverse impact.
We stand ready to answer that test as to whether or not we will have a adverse impact. I would like to have
you consider on that basis and again stay away from what might be deemed in my part pure speculation.
The same thing, I heard somebody talk about the water problem in Queen Victoria Grant and the adjoining
subdivision. Maybe as a comment, we acknowledge the fact that we can have no groundwater runoff from
this site either to the wetland which is commonly a concern because there are some culverts that run right
through other portions of the wetland from prior developers or to any other adjoining site. That is part of
the planned unit development, site plan review process that we need to go through as we go along. We
heard a couple comments to the possibility of the Kamer Blue Butterfly or Blue Lupine. I think you will
find within your records a letter which indicates that there is no habitat on the site. We have talked to
Kathy O'Brien who is the biologist from DEC who has been corresponding with Jim Martin with regard to
that. We intend to be cooperative with her we think that we will bring something to the table that is
satisfactory. She has acknowledge to me although it is not stated in the letter that she has no jurisdiction
because there is no habitat, but she would like to talk to us. She has found a fertile field there for...that is
supportive of maybe regenerating a habitat and we told her we would be glad to talk to her. One young
man talked about the cross country trails and the use of the property for recreation. Certainly we want to
preserve a good portion of the property for development, but we have purposely set up connections to the
school that would preserve that aspect of the use of the property with a trail system. We would encourage
that it would be used we would hope that it would be part of our development. Mr. Tucker has asked a
question about who we are and will we be around, I guess is basically the question. If we go through what
I anticipate here as being a Planned Unit Development you are going to ask for somebody's John Hancock
on a Planned Unit Development Agreement. That's going to be recorded in the County Clerk's Office that
is going to run with the land. That is going to be enforceable, again the land and whoever is in control of
the land. Our intentions are to develop the plan. Our intentions are to build custom homes on it. Our
intention is to use this land as an inventory for Mike Vasiliou. If you've got some other suggestions along
that line we are willing to listen to them and maybe participate in thern. I think the last Planned Unit
Development you approved before you signed off you required a recording in the County Clerk's Office
and you required proof of that recording at the County Clerk's Office so somebody didn't pick up the
development and go off and do what they wanted to do with some type of control. Not that pages are any
great sign of what's contained therein, but I think you had a twenty page document related to exact plans as
to what was to be built, what was not to be built. I basically have nothing else specific unless somebody
has a specific question. Maybe, I should introduce Tom Nace from Haanen Engineering who is going to do
our septic system sanitary design and who is going to continue to study the site to tell us exactly what is
appropriate on that site. Jim Vasiliou he is going to build some of the houses. Kelly Johnston from
Transportation Concepts who is the author of the Traffic Study. I think the Traffic Study speaks for itself
you've got to look at it and see exactly what it is. We do not propose a traffic light. If you take a look at
the traffic study you will see the traffic consultants looked at various alternatives and gave suggestions to
the town based upon what was workable and was not workable. Matt Steves from VanDusen and Steves
who has done the surveying, who has actually shown the wetlands, and will show the rest of the design. I
think that covers our development tearn. We would like to begin maybe a more detailed study and more
detailed answer. I don't mean or suggest that we not do it not in a public form without notice or anything of
that nature. I think we've got a list of concerns here that probably are best addressed, I started early this
weekend. I've got protection of wetland, traffic, habitat, archeological potential impacts, property values,
effect on schools, effect on community services, community needs that was the list, I made up before I
came. We've got details throughout the whole pile on all those items which I think should satisfy the
concerns that were raised.
SUPERVISOR CHAMP AGNE- Thank you. Does the board have anything more to add, questions you
would like to ask?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I would just like to tell the public out there that everything that we have
here that they see the maps, reports, etc., are down in the Community Development Office. The minutes of
the Planning Board when they considered it are down there. Feel free, please at anytime to come in and
look at that information. There is a room down there with a table where you can take the material and look
at it at your leisure. If there is something you need to copy I'm sure that can be arranged as long as you
don't ask us to copy whole documents. I want you to feel very comfortable to please come in and look at
all the same material that we have access to so that you have access to everything that we do.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-That's true throughout the process as we get new information.
You are not bugging us that's what we're here for by all means come in and look.
MR. SHAMES-How can the community be assured that a full environmental impact study is going to be
done on this project not a partial, but a full extensive.
ATTORNEY SCHACHNER-I think the answer right now is that nobody can be assured of that. The Town
Board will have to in fulfilling its requirements under the New York State Quality Review Act by
scrutinize closely the possible environmental impacts on this project. If you decide that those impacts may
be significant than you have obviously the authority to require a full blown environmental impact
statement. If you decide that those likely environmental impacts are not significant then you may decide
not too.
SUPERVISOR CHAMP AGNE-I think the project is of a magnitude that it would be at least the opinion of
some of us here that I think we're looking in that direction. I would assume that the developers are
scheduling that also.
ATTORNEY O'CONNOR-I would ask you to take a hard look at the material that is presented. I think it's
premature to make that judgement.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I agree with what Mr. Schachner has just indicated that at this point it is
premature to make that determination. I think if you actually take a look at what we have presented and
will present in connection with the concerns that have been raised tonight or response to the concerns that
have been raised tonight by playing out the answer that are within the material that have already been
submitted. It will be our position and our hope that after taking that hard look at those elements you won't
find the need to do a long form or a full environmental impact study. You have in your packet a long form
environmental affidavit. We've been through this process once before and we had got to a cross roads and
an issue whether or not at that time there was information or not information. I think that we have leamed
and hoped that we've learned from that past experience to present sufficient information for you at this time
to actually identify likely impacts. The question came up as to what effect would be the rezoning of the
Glens Falls Watershed property for the discontinuance of the Glens Falls Watershed property. I would
submit to you right now that is so speculative that is not a likely impact. To make us turn page one to
address that issue gets us off into never, never land. Hopefully when you look at everything that we
submitted it is not an area that we're going to get into. We can do responses and I think it's appropriate to
do that and then you are going to have to do a paragraph by paragraph review of what we've submitted.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Any other questions, concerns?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I guess, maybe I'd like to answer that a little bit Fred. I agree with what
Mark says, and I agree with what Mike says. I will tell you right now as far as I'm concerned we do not
have all the information that we need to complete part two of the long environmental impact statement.
When we do get that information I hope my fellow Town Board members agree with me that some of that
will be of such a technical nature that it will be also looked at my a consultant that the town will hire versed
in those aspects to see if those conclusions that have been reached by the applicant can also be reached by
an outside consultant. When we do part two it will be in a public session where everybody will be there
and will know very well what the answers are that are going down on that sheet.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I think that answers your question.
ATTORNEY O'CONNOR -We have no objections to what Mrs. Monahan has outlined particularly even the
part of.... I think once before I went through this process and I anticipate it, my client anticipates that.
There are some technical issues that you are going to want to have outside consultants look at our
consultants with. We would simply ask and make that an understanding before hand as to perimeters of
expense same as you do any other type development.
MR. SHAMES- I just want to respond. The question comes up only because we started to do some of our
homework as well and some of the information we're getting is contrary to what we've been told. Yes, I
agree with you it is very complex, very sophisticated. We ourselves need some time to really review this
properly and get all our letters that we need to have and presented and do the things that we have to do.
We're going to need some time to do this and I don't think it is going to be a process that is going to be
done in two or three weeks.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I'm assuming the Supervisor will
leave the public hearing opened so all comments can be added to it. When we do resume discussion on this
everybody will aware of it.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Mark is it your opinion that we leave the session open or do we close it and
have a second public hearing per say of the second phase two?
ATTORNEY SCHACHNER-According to the PUD you are required by law to have an additional public
hearing whenever you consider the planned unit development. I think it's up to the board as to whether you
want to close the public hearing on the proposed rezoning or you want to continue it. It sounded to me
based on earlier statements by the applicant's representatives you were still going to be receiving additional
information.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Yes.
ATTORNEY SCHACHNER-If that's the case then it's probably appropriate to continue the public hearing
or leave it open rather than have to schedule a different one or a new one when that information comes in,
but that's up to the board.
ATTORNEY O'CONNOR-Mr. Supervisor if you would be open to just one suggestion. We would have no
objection to reopening the public hearing when matters be presented to the board at the public hearing.
Sometimes when you leave the public hearing open you end up with your public forum comments are made
at times that we aren't here and aren't aware of. I ran into a problem with that with the Hudson Pointe
application it added some lifetime to it. The only comment I make, I don't take a real strong position on it
sometimes it is better to have a little bit of finality from the beginning and stopping points.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I recall that very clearly.
ATTORNEY SCHACHNER-I don't think legally it's appropriate to close the public hearing and then
reopen it. I think, however, obviously people can say whatever they want at open forum, but I think as far
as the Town Board is concerned comments made by people during open forum as opposed to continue
sessions of this public hearing are not part of the public hearing record for this project. They are made for
informational purposes and they can be considered by the board if it wishes, but you don't have to for
example include those comments as part of any public hearing record or respond to thern.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Okay that's the route will take. We will leave this public hearing open.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I just have one further question, also for the public's benefit as
well. Do you know your schedule yet for filing your letter of intent to begin the PUD process? That is also
a process in the first part involves the Planning Board and those are at publicly held meetings of the
Planning Board.
ATTORNEY O'CONNOR-My understanding is that we are not entitled to undertake that process until we
have the rezoning in place based on the present density of the site. We have stipulated that we
acknowledge the fact that for SEQRA purposes this would be considered as a PUD, it is our intention to
file the PUD. If you are telling us that we can do that ahead of time and it makes the record clear for
everybody we would be happy to do that.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN -You have a memo from me this evening that I just handed to
you that's my position. I discussed this with Mark earlier today it will make the process more clear for the
board and more clear for the public if we have them submit the PUD letter right away and get that process
started. That way it will make it easier to go through the SEQRA form because you are considering the
whole action which involves a rezoning and a PUD. I think it will make it more straight forward for you if
you have it in that manner.
ATTORNEY O'CONNOR-I have no problem with that. I haven't seen your letter.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I know. It was hot off the press about five to seven this
evening. The letter of intent will be coming...
ATTORNEY O'CONNOR-Our intent will be that you will have a letter tomorrow.
PUBLIC HEARING TO REMAIN OPENED - LETTERS ATTACHED TO MINUTES
CORRESPONDENCE
DEPUTY CLERK O'BRIEN-Read following letter into the record.
February 8th, 1996
Mr. Dave Hatin
Director of Building & Codes
Town of Queensbury
531 Bay Road
Queensbury, NY 12804
Dear Dave:
Many thanks for your assistance and cooperation regarding the property at 27 Peggy Ann Road,
Queensbury.
It is a pleasure to know that we as Realtors and members of the community can rely on your professional
expertise when dealing with an unusual property situation. You have been prompt and responsive to each
concern and it has been appreciated.
A closing on this property has been scheduled for February 13, 1996.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Joann Borgos
Licensed Salesperson
RESOLUTIONS
RESOLUTION ADOPTING DETERMINATION OF NON-SIGNIFICANCE
OF DEDICATION OF CERTAIN LAND FROM
THE ADIRONDACK MONTHLY MEETING OF THE RELIGIOUS
SOCIETY OF FRIENDS
RESOLUTION NO.: 114,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is considering the acceptance of certain
real property located at Bay and Quaker Roads, known as the Wing Cemetery or Quaker Cemetery, offered
for dedication by the Adirondack Monthly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is duly qualified to act as lead agency
with respect to compliance with SEQRA which required environmental review of certain actions
undertaken by local governments, and
WHEREAS, the proposed action is an unlisted action pursuant to the Rules and Regulations of the
State Environmental Quality Review Act,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby finds that the proposed
responses inserted in Part II of the Environmental Assessment Form are satisfactory and approved, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, after considering the action
proposed herein, reviewing the Environmental Assessment Form, reviewing the criteria contained in
~617. 7, and thoroughly analyzing the project with respect to potential environmental concerns, determines
that the action will not have a significant effect on the environment, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor is hereby authorized and directed to complete and execute
Part III of the said Environmental Assessment Form and to check the box thereon indicating that the
proposed action will not result in any significant adverse impacts, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the annexed Negative Declaration is hereby approved and the Town Clerk is
hereby authorized and directed to file the same in accordance with the provisions of the general regulations
of the Department of Environmental Conservation.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
(SHORT ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM ATTACHED TO ORIGINAL
RESOLUTION)
RESOLUTION ACCEPTING DEDICATION OF CERTAIN LAND FROM
THE ADIRONDACK MONTHLY MEETING OF THE RELIGIOUS
SOCIETY OF FRIENDS
RESOLUTION NO. 115, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, The Adirondack Monthly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends has offered a
deed to dedicate to the Town of Queensbury, certain real property located at Bay and Quaker Roads, known
as the Wing Cemetery or Quaker Cemetery, which is more particularly described in a copy of the survey
map and deed presented at this meeting, and
WHEREAS, the form of the deed and title to the real property offered for dedication has been
reviewed and approved by Paul B. Dusek, then Town Attorney for the Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury has considered the environmental
effects of the proposed action by previous resolution and issued a Negative Declaration pursuant to the
State Environmental Quality Review Act,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the aforementioned deed for dedication of the said certain real property located
at Bay and Quaker Roads, known as the Wing Cemetery or Quaker Cemetery, be and the same is hereby
accepted and approved, that the Town Supervisor is hereby authorized to execute, sign and affix the Town
seal to any and all documents necessary to complete the transaction, and that the Town Clerk is hereby
authorized and directed to cause said deed to be recorded in the Warren County Clerk's Office, after which
said deed shall be properly filed and maintained in the Office of the Town Clerk of the Town of
Queensbury.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION RETAINING PROFESSIONAL SERVICES
REGARDING AMENDMENT TO ZONING ORDINANCE - LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONES
RESOLUTION NO. 116, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury desires to amend the Zoning Ordinance to allow
for generic site plan approval in light industrial zones, and
WHEREAS, a proposal to prepare a GElS outline and draft an amendment to the Town Zoning Ordinance
has been received and reviewed by the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, and the Board feels that it
is appropriate to retain the legal services of Lemery & Reid, P.C., and the engineering services of Rist-Frost
Associates, P.C., to provide such professional assistance,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby approves of the retention of the
services of Lemery & Reid, P.C., and Rist-Frost Associates, P.C., to provide the services described above
at a cost not to exceed $2,500. per firm, for a total of $5,000., to be paid for from the Economic
Development Account No.: 13-6986-4400, and
BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor is hereby authorized and directed to sign an agreement for the
professional services described above, said agreement to be in a form to be approved by the Town Counsel.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr.
Champagne
Noes: None
AbsentNone
RESOLUTION DESIGNATING TOWN BOARD AS LEAD AGENCY
FOR AVIATION ROAD WIDENING PROJECT
RESOLUTION NO.: 117,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury realizes the importance of maintaining
efficient and safe movement of traffic on Town roads, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, through feedback from the residents, as
well as studies of the Aviation Road corridor, has become aware of concerns relating to traffic safety and
congestion, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, in response to aforementioned
concerns, has been working with the Superintendent of the Queensbury Public School District to develop a
strategy to improve the traffic flow on Aviation Road, and
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury will be undertaking a capital improvement project,
hereinafter referred to as the " Aviation Road Widening Project," and such project will need to be reviewed
in accordance with the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act, hereinafter referred to as
"SEQRA," and
WHEREAS, it is necessary for the Aviation Road Widening Project to be reviewed in accordance
with the SEQRA regulations, and
WHEREAS, the SEQRA regulations require that a "lead agency" be designated in order to
conduct environmental review of a project which is subject to the requirements of SEQRA,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, hereby authorizes itself to act as
the lead agency for the environmental review of the Aviation Road Widening Project as required by
SEQRA.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING NEW CAPITAL PROJECT FUND
FOR AVIATION ROAD WIDENING PROJECT
RESOLUTION NO.: 118,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is desirous
of establishing a Capital Project Fund and establishing therein appropriations for construction planned for
the Aviation Road widening project in the Town of Queensbury,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes and directs the
establishment of a capital project fund to be known as the Capital Project Fund, Fund 106 for the purpose
of widening Aviation Road, which Fund would establish funding for all work and purchases of all
materials, etc. necessary to widen the road, including engineering and legal expenses, at an estimated cost
not to exceed $140,000., and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby establishes appropriations
for said new Capital Project Fund, Fund 106 in the amount of $140,000., with the source of funding to be
$140,000. from the Weeks Road Capital Project Fund, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes the Town
Supervisor to transfer funds and take all action that may be necessary to effectuate the terms and provisions
of this resolution, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the road construction project is to begin on or about June 30, 1996, and to end
on or about September 2, 1996.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING EMPLOYMENT OF VAN DUSEN & STEVES
FOR MAPPING & SURVEY WORK FOR AVIATION ROAD WIDENING PROJECT
RESOLUTION NO.: 119,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is interested in making improvements to
Aviation Road in the Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, said project will entail mapping and survey work to be performed by another agency
other than the Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, VanDusen & Steves has offered to undertake the necessary mapping and survey
work, as outlined in a letter dated February 6, 1996, for the amount not to exceed $15,845.,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor be and hereby is authorized and directed to enter into an
agreement between the Town of Queensbury and VanDusen & Steves, for mapping and survey work
services outlined in their letter dated February 6, 1996, at a cost not to exceed $15,845., to be paid for from
Capital Project Fund, Fund 106, Account No. 106-5110-4400, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the aforesaid agreement between the Town of Queensbury and VanDusen &
Steves shall be in a form to be approved by the Town Counsel.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996 by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION AMENDING ADOPT -A-HIGHWAY PROGRAM
RESOLUTION NO. 120, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHEREAS, by resolution no. 442, 95, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury adopted an
Adopt-A-Highway Program, and
WHEREAS, under the present Adopt-A-Highway Program, no one under the age of 12 years of
age may participate in Adopt-A-Highway activities, and
WHEREAS, the Deputy Superintendent of Highways has requested that said Program be amended
to read such that,
No child under the age of 12 years of age may participate in Adopt-A-Highway activities, unless
such child is supervised by an adult, 18 years of age or older;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes and directs that
the Adopt-A-Highway Program be amended to read as set forth hereinabove.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION SETTING PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING MODIFICATION TO
AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY AND
THE WEST GLENS FALLS VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY, INC.
RESOLUTION NO.: 121,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHEREAS, an agreement dated December 29, 1995 has been entered into between the Town of
Queensbury and the West Glens Falls Volunteer Fire Company, Inc., for fire protection services to be
rendered for the year 1996, and
WHEREAS, by said agreement, the West Glens Falls Volunteer Fire Co., Inc., agreed to accept
the sumof$151,450., for the year 1996, and
WHEREAS, the West Glens Falls Volunteer Fire Co., Inc., is proposing to build a new firehouse,
and therefore, is proposing to amend their 1996 agreement to increase their dollar figure from the Town by
$81,000., for a new total for 1996 to be $232,450., and
WHEREAS, ~184 of the Town Law of the State of New York provides that the contracting
parties, by mutual consent, after public hearing, may amend an agreement provided it is in the public
interest to do so,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury will hold a public hearing on
March 18th, 1996, at 7:00 p.rn., at the Queensbury Activities Center, 742 Bay Road, Town of Queensbury,
Warren County, New York, regarding said proposed modification to the agreement between the Town of
Queensbury and the West Glens Falls Volunteer Fire Co., Inc., and hereby further authorizes and directs
the Town Clerk to publish the notice of public hearing in the Post-Star Newspaper, once at least ten (10)
days prior to the said hearing, and that such notice shall specify the time when and the place where said
hearing will be held and describe in general terms the proposed amendment and be in the form presented at
this meeting.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING MODIFICATION NO.1
- DUCTILE IRON PIPING - CONTRACT NO. 3lD -
WATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION
RESOLUTION NO.: 122,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury previously authorized and approved the
expansion of the Water Treatment Plant, including, as part of that expansion, Contract No. 31D, Plumbing,
and
WHEREAS, O'Brien & Gere Engineers, Inc., in their letter dated February 7, 1996, recommends
Modification NO.1 consisting of the following scope of work:
Modification NO.1 consists of deleting approximately 760 LF of threaded galvanized process
water piping and fittings and replacing all galvanized process piping with Class 53 Ductile Iron Pipe with
victaulic couplings;
and
WHEREAS, DiGesare Mechanical, Inc., has offered to perform the work of Modification NO.1 in
the amount of$18,939.,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby approves of the
modification described in a letter dated February 7, 1996, from O'Brien & Gere Engineers, Inc., and set
forth hereinabove, said modification to be in the amount of $18,939., and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor is hereby authorized to execute, on behalf of the Town of
Queensbury, any change orders or other documents that are necessary to accomplish the intent and
purposes of this resolution.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION ADOPTING WAGE AND SALARY STRUCTURE
RESOLUTION NO.: 123,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, by resolution no. 392,95, retained the
services of Amtek Management Services, Corp. (AMTEK) to provide various personnel evaluation
services, including the development of a Wage and Salary Structure for the Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, AMTEK has prepared a proposed Wage and Salary Structure and the same is
presented at this meeting,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adopts the Wage and
Salary Structure presented at this meeting.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996 by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
DISCUSSION HELD BEFORE VOTE
COUNCILMAN PULVER-Noted this the resolution is as of 1995 and the Board is adopting it in 1996.
Recommending changing the resolution to include the cost of living to all grade structures. After further
discussion it was the decision of the Board to adopt the resolution as it reads.
RESOLUTION AMENDING RES. 409, 95 AND CHANGING THE NAME
OF A PORTION OF ROAD NO. 472, MC DONALD DRIVE
RESOLUTION NO.: 124,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury by resolution no. 409, 95, accepted
dedication of certain roads in the Hudson Pointe Planned Unit Development, and more specifically,
accepted and named Road No. 472, which was described as beginning at the McDonald Drive Westerly
ending at Cul-De-Sac and named McDonald Drive, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury has received a request to change the
name of a portion of McDonald Drive, such that, that portion of McDonald Drive lying and existing from
McDonald Drive westerly and ending at Hudson Pointe Boulevard would be known as McDonald Drive,
while that portion of McDonald Drive beginning at the Hudson Pointe Boulevard and ending at the Cul-De-
Sac would be known as Robert's Road,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby approves the renaming ofa
portion of McDonald Drive, such that beginning at McDonald Drive Westerly and ending at Hudson Pointe
Boulevard will be known as McDonald Drive, and that portion of the road beginning at the Hudson Pointe
Boulevard and ending at the Cul-De-Sac will be known as Robert's Road, with the measurement and
distances of said roads to be established by the Highway Department and the records to be accordingly
amended by the Town Clerk of the Town of Queensbury.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION RE-APPOINTING PLANNING BOARD CHAIRMAN
RESOLUTION NO.: 125,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury has previously established the Planning
Board of the Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board has recommended that Mr. Robert Paling be re-appointed as the
Planning Board Chairman,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby approves of the designation
of Mr. Robert Paling to remain as Chairman of the Town of Queensbury Planning Board, pursuant to Town
Law.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION TO AMEND 1996 BUDGET
RESOLUTION NO.: 126,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHEREAS, certain departments have requested transfers of funds for the 1996 Budget, and
WHEREAS, said requests have been approved by the Chief Fiscal Officer,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the funds be transferred as follows, for the
1996 budget:
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT:
FROM:
TO:
$ AMOUNT:
01-8030-4400
(Community Research-
Misc. Contractual)
01-8020-2032
(Computer Software)
2,700.
WASTEWATER:
FROM:
TO:
$ AMOUNT:
032-8120-4400
032-8120-4110
$ 500.
WATER:
FROM:
TO:
$ AMOUNT:
40-8340-4400
(Misc. Contr.)
40-8340-2001
(Misc. Equip.)
$ 1,500.
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the 1996 Town Budget is hereby amended accordingly.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
DISCUSSION HELD BEFORE VOTE:
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Questioned the fact that the budget put together for the Wastewater
Department is already in need of a transfer.
RESOLUTION TO AMEND 1995 BUDGET
RESOLUTION NO.: 127,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, certain departments have requested transfers of funds for the 1995 Budget, and
WHEREAS, said requests have been approved by the Chief Fiscal Officer,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the funds be transferred as follows, for the
1995 budget:
GENERAL FUND:
FROM:
01-7020-1680
(Rec. Attendants)
01-8020-4090
(Conference Expense)
WASTE WATER:
FROM:
032-1990-4400
(Misc. Contractual-
Contingency)
032-1990-4400
(Misc. Contractual-
Contingency)
WASTE WATER:
FROM:
032-1990-4400
(Misc. Contractual-
Contingency)
WATER:
FROM:
40-8320-1400-0002
(Laborer A - Overtime)
40-8320-4240
(Repair & Replacement
Parts)
and
BE IT FURTHER,
TO:
$ AMOUNT:
01-7110-4300
(Parks-Utilities)
862.93
01-8020-4080
(Advertisement)
.65
TO:
$ AMOUNT:
032-8110-1810
(Waste Water Dep. Supr.)
63.29
032-8120-1570-0002
(Maint. II Overtime)
44.95
TO:
$ AMOUNT:
032-9030-8030
(Emp. Benefits - Social
Security)
52.61
TO:
$ AMOUNT:
40-8320-1510-0002
(WTPO II - Overtime)
1,128.82
40-8320-4300
(Utilities)
16.53
RESOLVED, that the 1995 Town Budget is hereby amended accordingly.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TOWN SUPERVISOR TO EXECUTE
CONSENT TO SUBSTITUTION OF ATTORNEYS FORMS
RESOLUTION NO.: 128,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, by resolution no. 106, 96, authorized
the retention of the services of Miller, Mannix & Pratt, P.c., to serve as Town Counsel for the Town
subsequent to the resignation of Paul B. Dusek, Esq., and
WHEREAS, it is necessary that Consent to Substitution of Attorneys forms be executed for all
pending litigation cases for the Town of Queensbury,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes and directs the
Town Supervisor to execute all necessary Consent to Substitution of Attorneys forms for any Town of
Queensbury pending litigation case, and that said forms be filed as necessary with the respective Courts
and/or County Clerk offices.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996 by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CARRY OVER OF VACATION TIME
RESOLUTION NO.: 129,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHEREAS, Thomas K. Flaherty, Water Superintendent, has requested that Don Ogle, Plant
Operator, be allowed to carry over five vacation days past his anniversary date of April 1, 1996, as there is
presently a shortage of plant operators in the Water Department,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes that Don Ogle,
Plant Operator, be allowed to carry over 5 vacation days past his anniversary date of April 1, 1996, thereby
eliminating the need for additional overtime in the Town Water Department.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING PURCHASE OF CERTAIN OFFICE SUPPLIES
RESOLUTION NO.: 130,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, the Town Assessor's Office has requested a resolution of the Town Board authorizing
the purchase of 4 post shelving for their new property file folders, at a total cost not to exceed $2,726., and
WHEREAS, the funds for this expenditure have already been approved in the 1996 budget,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes the Town
Assessor to solicit quotes for the materials to be acquired, and upon the solicitation of the quotes, purchase
the goods and arrange for their delivery, provided that the lowest quote does not exceed the sum provided
in this resolution, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the purchase of the 4 post shelving for the new property file folders shall be
from Account No.: 01-1355-4010.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION TO SET PUBLIC HEARING AND TO DESIGNATE THE TOWN AS
LEAD AGENCY REGARDING PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE CODE
OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY, CHAPTER 179 THEREOF ENTITLED
"ZONING"
RESOLUTION NO. 131, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is desirous of amending, supplementing,
changing and/or modifying the Town of Queensbury Zoning Ordinance, the same having been previously
codified and made a part of the Code of the Town of Queensbury as Chapter 179 thereof entitled "Zoning,"
and
WHEREAS, the proposed amendment to the said Code of the Town of Queensbury, Chapter 179
thereof entitled "Zoning" is in the form of a Local Law, titled "A Local Law to amend the Code of the
Town of Queensbury, Chapter 179 thereof, entitled 'Zoning' to amend and revise certain provisions thereof,
delete some provisions thereto, and add new provisions thereto", and is presented to this meeting of the said
Town Board with this resolution and is incorporated herein, as if more fully set forth herein, for all
purposes, and
WHEREAS, a completed Part I of a Long Environmental Assessment Form has also been
presented at this meeting, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury may, from time to time, pursuant to
Section 265 of the Town Law and/or the relevant sections of the Municipal Home Rule Law of the State of
New York, amend, supplement, change, modify or repeal the Zoning Ordinance as codified, and
WHEREAS, it is necessary to hold a public hearing prior to adopting said proposed Local Law,
and
WHEREAS, it is also necessary to provide notice to other governmental bodies or agencies as
required by law, and
WHEREAS, it is also necessary to comply with the State Environmental Quality Review Act in
connection with conducting an environmental review of the proposed action which consists of adopting the
proposed Local Law amending Chapter 179 of the Code of the Town of Queensbury entitled 'Zoning", and
WHEREAS, it would appear that the action about to be undertaken by the Town Board of the
Town of Queensbury is an unlisted action under the provisions of and regulations adopted pursuant to said
State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA),
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby indicates that it desires to
conduct a coordinated review and be the lead agency in connection with any reviews necessary pursuant to
the State Environmental Quality Review Act and directs that such notices be sent by the Zoning
Administrator to such other involved agencies as may be required under SEQRA to notify the agencies of
this action and that the Town Board desires to be lead agent in a coordinated review and that a lead agency
must be agreed to within 30 days, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury shall hold a public hearing on May
6th, 1996, at 7:00 p.rn. in the Queensbury Activities Center, 742 Bay Road, Queensbury, Warren County,
New York, at which time all parties in interest and citizens shall have an opportunity to be heard, upon and
in reference to the proposed Local Law, titled "A Local Law to amend the Code of the Town of
Queensbury, Chapter 179 thereof, entitled 'Zoning' to amend and revise certain provisions thereof, delete
some provisions thereto, and add new provisions thereto", amendment, supplement, change and/or
modification to the Town of Queensbury Zoning Ordinance as codified and a part of the Code of the Town
of Queensbury, Chapter 179, thereof entitled "Zoning," and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Clerk of the Town of Queensbury is hereby authorized and directed
to give 10 days notice of said public hearing by publishing a notice in a form to be approved by Town
Counsel and substantially in conformance with the Notice presented at this meeting, for purposes of
publication in an official newspaper of the Town and by posting on the Town bulletin Board outside the
Clerk's Office said notice, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Zoning Administrator is hereby authorized and directed to give written
notice of the proposed amendment to the Zoning Ordinance of the Town of Queensbury as codified and a
part of the Code of the Town of Queensbury, Chapter 179, thereof entitled "Zoning," a copy of the
Environmental Assessment Form, a copy of this resolution and a copy of the written notice previously
described 10 days prior to the public hearing to the following: Warren County, by service upon the Clerk
of the Board of Supervisors, and such other communities or agencies that it is necessary to give written
notice to pursuant to Section 264 of the Town Law and Municipal Home Rule Law of the State of New
York, the Code of the Town of Queensbury and the Laws of the State of New York, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Zoning Administrator is hereby authorized and directed to give notice of
said proposed amendment to the Zoning Ordinance as codified and a part of the Code of the Town of
Queensbury, Chapter 179, thereof entitled "Zoning," a copy of the Environmental Assessment Form, the
Notice of Public Hearing and a copy of this resolution to the Warren County Planning Agency and the
Town of Queensbury Planning Board for their review in accordance with the laws of the State of New York
and Code of the Town of Queensbury, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Zoning Administrator is also hereby directed to send a copy of the proposed
amendment, Notice of Public Hearing, a copy of the Environmental Assessment Form and a copy of this
resolution to the Adirondack Park Agency.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION TO CONDUCT SHAMROCK SHUFFLE 5 MILE ROAD RACE
RESOLUTION NO. 132, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, the Adirondack Runner Club has requested permission to conduct their Tenth Annual
Shamrock Shuffle Road Race as follows:
SPONSOR:
EVENT:
DATE:
PLACE:
The Adirondack Runners Club
TENTH ANNUAL SHAMROCK SHUFFLE ROAD RACE
Sunday, March 17,1996
Beginning and ending at Glens Falls
High School
(Letter and map regarding location
of run attached);
and
WHEREAS, Paul H. Naylor, Town Highway Superintendent has approved of said race course,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby acknowledges receipt of
proof of insurance from the Adirondack Runners Club to hold the Shamrock Shuffle Road Race in the
Town of Queensbury, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that should weather conditions or other conditions necessitate Town Road repair
and/or maintenance or require other emergency use thereof, the Town Highway Superintendent may direct
modification of the race course, location of the same, and/or cancellation of the race.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
DISCUSSION HELD BEFORE VOTE:
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Questioned if there was a requirement by the Town that these people must be
followed by an ambulance?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-We never had a requirement.
RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT BID FOR COLLECTION AND DELIVERY OF
COMPACTED SOLID WASTE
RESOLUTION NO. 133, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, the Director of Purchasing for the Town of Queensbury, Warren County, New York,
duly advertised for the furnishing of all labor, material and equipment necessary for the collection of solid
waste that will be compacted at the Town of Queensbury Transfer Stations located off Ridge and Luzerne
Roads in the Town of Queensbury and transferring or delivering said solid waste to the Adirondack
Resource Recovery Facility located at River Street, Hudson Falls, New York, as more specifically
identified in bid documents, specifications previously submitted and in possession of the Town Clerk of the
Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, Waste Management has submitted the lowest bid for the aforementioned services,
and
WHEREAS, James T. Coughlin, Solid Waste Facility Operator, has recommended that the bid be
awarded to the aforesaid bidder,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, Warren County, New York,
hereby awards the bid for the furnishing of all labor, material and equipment necessary for the collection of
solid waste that will be compacted at the Town of Queensbury Transfer Stations located off Ridge and
Luzerne Roads in the Town of Queensbury and transferring or delivering said solid waste to the
Adirondack Resource Recovery Facility located at River Street, Hudson Falls, New York, to Waste
Management, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that said services are to be paid for from the appropriate Landfill Account.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AGREEMENT FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES
RESOLUTION NO. 134, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is desirous of continuing to employ the
services of Rist-Frost Associates, P.C., as consulting engineers, to provide engineering technical services to
the Planning Department and Planning Board and, where necessary, the Zoning Board of Appeals of the
Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, an Agreement has been presented at this meeting, which Agreement would provide
for the continuation of such services for the year 1996,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, after due consideration, hereby
determines and authorizes the retention
of the engineering firm Rist -Frost Associates, P. C., in accordance with the terms and provisions of an
Agreement, to be substantially similar to the one presented at this meeting, the same to be in a form
approved by the Town Counsel and executed by the Town Supervisor, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the cost for engineering services shall be paid for from the Reimbursable
Engineering Services Account of the Planning Department.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SALE OF SCRAP METAL
RESOLUTION NO.: 135,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is desirous of arranging for the sale of
scrap metal located at the Town of Queensbury Transfer Station, and
WHEREAS, a set of Bidding Documents, including a Notice to Bidders, has been presented at this
meeting, which documents provide for the advertisement for the sale of such scrap metal and also provide
for a Bid Proposal, Non-Collusive Affidavit, and Contract of Sale,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes the Town Clerk to
advertise the Notice to Bidders presented at this meeting and the said Town Board of the Town of
Queensbury hereby further approves and authorizes the use of the Bidding Documents, including the
Contract of Sale, presented at this meeting, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that any funds obtained from the sale of said scrap metal shall be deposited in the
Landfill Operations Account.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION ADOPTING DETERMINATION OF NON-SIGNIFICANCE
OF ROAD DEDICATION
RESOLUTION NO.: 136,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is considering the acceptance of a road
and easements located in Stonehurst Subdivision - Section Two, offered for dedication by Maine
Enterprises, Inc., and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is duly qualified to act as lead agency
with respect to compliance with SEQRA which requires environmental review of certain actions
undertaken by local governments, and
WHEREAS, the proposed action is an unlisted action pursuant to the Rules and Regulations of the
State Environmental Quality Review Act,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby finds that the proposed
responses inserted in Part II of the said Environmental Assessment Form are satisfactory and approved, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, after considering the action
proposed herein, reviewing the Environmental Assessment Form, reviewing the criteria contained in
~617. 7, and thoroughly analyzing the project with respect to potential environmental concerns, determines
that the action will not have a significant effect on the environment, and
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor is hereby authorized and directed to complete and execute
Part III of the said Environmental Assessment Form and to check the box thereon indicating that the
proposed action will not result in any significant adverse impacts, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the annexed Negative Declaration is hereby approved and the Town Clerk is
hereby authorized and directed to file the same in accordance with the provisions of the general regulations
of the Department of Environmental Conservation.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
SHORT ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM PART 11
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-A. Does action exceed any Type I threshold in 6 NYCRR, Part
617.4?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-B. Will action receive coordinated review as provided for
unlisted actions in 6 NYCRR, Part 617.6?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-C. Could action result in any adverse effects associated with
the following. C1. Existing air quality, surface or groundwater quality or quantity, noise levels, existing
traffic patterns, solid waste production or disposal, potential for erosion, drainage or flooding problems?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-C2. Aesthetic, agricultural, archaeological, historic, or other
natural or cultural resources; or community or neighborhood character?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-C3. Vegetation or fauna, fish, shellfish or wildlife species,
significant habitats, or threatened or endangered species?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-C4. A community's existing plans or goals as officially
adopted, or a change in use or intensity of use of land or other natural resources?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-C5. Growth, subsequent development, or related activities
likely to be induced by the proposed action?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-C6. Long term, short term, cumulative, or other effect not
identified in CI-C5?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-C7. Other impacts?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-D. Will the project have an impact on the environmental
characteristics that caused the establishment of a CEA?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-E. Is there, or is there likely to be, controversy related to
potential adverse environmental impacts?
TOWN BOARD-No.
RESOLUTION ACCEPTING DEDICATION OF ROAD AND EASEMENTS
LOCATED IN STONEHURST SUBDIVISION - SECTION TWO
RESOLUTION NO. 137, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, Maine Enterprises, Inc. has offered two deeds to dedicate to the Town of
Queensbury: 1) a Stonehurst Subdivision - Section Two road and 2) drainage easements, which are more
particularly described in the survey map presented at this meeting, and
WHEREAS, Paul H. Naylor, Superintendent of Highways of the Town of Queensbury, has
recommended acceptance of this section, in accordance with the conditions outlined in the attached
Affidavit, together with a letter of credit for the sum of $22,000.00, and
WHEREAS, the form of the deed and title to the road offered for dedication, as well as the
Affidavit promising to complete the road, and Letter of Credit, have been reviewed and approved by Paul
B. Dusek, then Town Attorney for the Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury has considered the environmental
effects of the proposed action by previous resolution and issued a Negative Declaration pursuant to the
State Environmental Quality Review Act,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the aforementioned deeds for dedication of the said road and easements be and
the same are hereby accepted and approved, that the Town Supervisor is hereby authorized to execute, sign
and affix the Town seal to any and all documents necessary to complete the transaction, and that the Town
Clerk is hereby authorized and directed to cause said deeds to be recorded in the Warren County Clerk's
Office, after which said deeds shall be properly filed and maintained in the Office of the Town Clerk of the
Town of Queensbury, and
BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED, that the Letter of Credit in the amount of $22,000.00 and Affidavit wherein the
developer promises to complete the surfacing of the roadways by no later than August 31, 1996, be
accepted, and
BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED, that the Town Clerk retain and file said Letter of Credit and Affidavit, and that the
road be hereby added to the official inventory of Town Highways, to be described as follows:
Road Number: 413
Description: Beginning at Stonehurst Drive and continuing
southerly direction, a distance of 1891
and ending at cul-de-sac.
ma
feet and .36 hundredths of a mile
Name: Stonehurst Drive
Feet: 1891 feet
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. C
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING QUIT CLAIM DEEDS
RESOLUTION NO. 138, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, Maine Enterprises, Inc. has, on this date, dedicated certain property to the Town of
Queensbury for highway purposes and for purposes of further development of the Stonehurst Subdivision,
and
WHEREAS, Maine Enterprises, Inc., by a previous deed, dated September 1, 1987, dedicated
other properties within the subdivision for highway purposes and also provided the Town of Queensbury
with a temporary turnaround since the highways were not completed at that time and identified the same in
the deed to the Town, as well as showing the same on subdivision maps, and
WHEREAS, the further dedication of roads made this date by Maine Enterprises, Inc. proceeds
through the aforedescribed turnaround area and, therefore, the turnaround area has no further use to the
Town, and
WHEREAS, the aforedescribed turnaround area was never intended to be conveyed permanently
to the Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, a reasonable reading of the deed would imply that the turnaround area has now
expired but the Town of Queensbury desires to issue Quit Claim Deeds so that any possible interest the
Town may have in the turnaround area, except to the extent that the new road passes through the same, is
eliminated, and
WHEREAS, in view of the development of the new road in the subdivision, the turnaround area
has no value to the Town of Queensbury and is surplus property,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby determines that the action about to be undertaken is
ministerial and a Type II action under SEQRA, and
BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby approves and authorizes
the Quit Claim Deed presented at this meeting which releases the Town's interests in the turnaround area
that is outside and not within the bounds of the road that was dedicated on this date, and
BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor be, and hereby is, authorized to execute deeds and place
the seal of the Town on the deeds and, likewise, execute any other documents and papers that may be
necessary to effect the conveyance of that portion of the turnaround area described herein to Thomas M.
Bell and Terry L. Hall, and Maine Enterprises, Inc., and file and record the same, with the understanding
that all costs for filing and/or recording shall be borne by Maine Enterprises, Inc., and
BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED, that this resolution shall be subject to a permissive referendum in accordance with
the provisions of Article 7 of the Town Law and shall not take effect until such time as provided therein,
and the Town Clerk is further authorized to publish a copy of this resolution, together with a notice of the
fact that this resolution is subject to a permissive referendum in accordance with the provisions of law.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING
REGARDING LIGHTING REQUEST FROM BA YBRIDGE HOMEOWNERS
RESOLUTION NO. 139,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury has previously established the Queensbury Lighting District, and
WHEREAS, the Baybridge Townhouse Development is located in such District, and
WHEREAS, certain residents of the Baybridge Development have requested by petition that the Town
Board consider installation of certain street lighting in the Baybridge Development, and
WHEREAS, New York State Town Law ~ 198 (6) authorizes the Town Board to consider a petition
request for installation of street lighting in a lighting district, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board has previously adopted a Lighting District Policy which also governs such
request, and
WHEREAS, pursuant to Town Law ~ 198 (6) the Town Board is required to conduct a pubic hearing to
consider this request with notice of such hearing to be published not less than ten (10) nor more than twenty
(20) days prior to the date of hearing.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury will hold a public hearing on March 18,
1996, at 7:00 p.rn., at the Queensbury Activities Center, 742 Bay Road, Town of Queensbury, Warren
County, New York, to consider the petition for the installation of certain street lighting in the Baybridge
Development, and at that time all persons interested in the subject thereof will be heard, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Clerk of the Town of Queensbury be and is hereby directed and authorized to
publish and provide notice of said public hearing not less than ten (10) nor more than twenty (20) days
prior to the date os such hearing int he official newspaper of the Town of Queensbury and to post a copy
thereof on the bulletin board of the Office of the Town Clerk, and
BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED, that pursuant to Town Law ~ 198 (6), after such hearing, the Town Board shall determine by
resolution the sufficiency of the petition and whether it is in the public interest to grant in whole or in part
or to deny the relief sought.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr.
Champagne
Noes: None
Absent:None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING RETENTION OF
HARTGEN ARCHAEOLOGICAL ASSOCIATES, INC.
RESOLUTION NO.: 140,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury has secured a municipal project grant under the Land and
Water Conservation Fund and the Environmental Quality Bond Act of 1986, and
WHEREAS, the grant was secured for the purposes of funding the development of a park adjacent
to the Hudson River, off of Big Boom Road, in the Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, the aforementioned park has been described in previous resolutions, and the Town
Board is undertaking to review the project under SEQRA, and
WHEREAS, the Town previously retained Hartgen Archaeological Associates, Inc. to conduct an
initial archaeological survey, also known as a Stage IA Study, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board has been advised of the need for a Stage IE Archaeological Field
Reconnaissance and Hartgen Archaeological Associates, Inc., has offered to perform this investigation,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes the retention of
Hartgen Archaeological Associates, Inc., for purposes of conducting site investigation and preparation of
the Stage IE Archaeological Field Testing Report at a cost not to exceed $3,000. with payment to be made
within thirty (30) days after the report and an invoice for the services are received, together with an
appropriately completed Town voucher, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the expenditures authorized herein shall be paid for from the Miscellaneous
Contractual Account No.: 001-7110-4400.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996 by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING PURCHASE ORDER
FOR PURCHASE OF ONE (1) AIR COMPRESSOR
FOR WATER DEPARTMENT
RESOLUTION NO.: 141,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury has previously adopted purchasing
procedures, and in accordance with said procedures, a contract in an amount greater than the amount of
$5,000.00, up to New York State bidding limits, must be approved by the Town Board before said contract
is entered into, and
WHEREAS, the Water Superintendent has proposed to purchase one (1) air compressor in the
amount of $8,500., for the Water Department, and
WHEREAS, three quotes were obtained, and the price quoted by Walter Pratt & Sons, was the
lowest of the three quotes,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby approves the purchase of the air compressor referenced
hereinabove, to be paid for from Account No.: 40-8340-2001.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION ACCEPTING WITH REGRET THE RESIGNATION OF PAUL B. DUSEK
RESOLUTION NO.: 142,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHEREAS, Paul B. Dusek has held the position of Queensbury Town Attorney since April 12,
1988, and
WHEREAS, Mr. Dusek has recently accepted a position as the Warren County Attorney, and
WHEREAS, as a result, Mr. Dusek has tendered his resignation as Town Attorney to the
Queensbury Town Board, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board is appreciative of the many years of dedicated service provided to
the Town by Mr. Dusek,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby accepts with regret the
resignation of Town Attorney, Paul B. Dusek, Esq., and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board commends Mr. Dusek for his service as Town Attorney to the
Town of Queensbury and wishes Mr. Dusek success as Warren County Attorney, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that a copy of this resolution shall be forwarded to Mr. Dusek at the Warren County
Attorney's Office.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT BID FOR STREET SWEEPER
RESOLUTION NO. 143,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHEREAS, the Director of Purchasing for the Town of Queensbury, Warren County, New York, duly
advertised for bids for a street sweeper for the Highway Department, pursuant to bid specifications
previously submitted and in possession of the Town Clerk of the Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, William G. Clark Municipal Equipment, Inc., submitted the lowest bid for the aforementioned
sweeper in the total amount of $88,750.00, and
WHEREAS, Paul H. Naylor, Highway Superintendent has recommended that the bid be awarded to the
aforesaid lowest bidder,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, Warren County, New York, hereby awards
the bid for the aforementioned Street Sweeper paid for from the account number 004-5130-2040 the Heavy
Equipment Account.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr.
Champagne
Noes: None
Absent:None
DISCUSSION HELD
ATTORNEY SCHACHNER-Spoke to the Board in regard to the resolution concerning the appointment of
the Zoning Board of Appeals Chairman that was pulled from the agenda. Noted the New York State Town
Law merely states that the Planning Board and ZBA Chair People are appointed by the Town Board
without providing any specific time frames like annual or the length of the terrn. The reason that it is
different for the Planning Board is because our Planning Board has previously adopted its own
organizational document called Planning Board Rules and Guidelines. That states that it's an annual
Planning Board Chairperson situation. The Zoning Board of Appeals all the govern seems to be State Law
there is nothing in our Zoning Ordinance specific to ZBA appointment. There is nothing in New York
State Law specific to the terrn. All it says, it shall designate a chairperson thereof. If you have already
designated Fred Carvin or someone else as Chairperson, I would say that person remains as Chairperson
until you do differently.
TOWN BOARD MATTERS
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Recommended when the agenda goes out to the Town Board Members they
should also go out to Town Department Heads, and Brendon Lyons from the Post Star.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-Spoke to the board regarding two letters one from the Wastewater Department
and one from Queensbury Water Department questioned the status of these letters, gave letters to Attorney
Schachner.
ATTORNEY MATTERS
ATTORNEY SCHACHNER-Noted he has an executive session on a pending litigation matter and possible
acquisition of real property matter.
OPEN FORUM
JOHN SALVADOR-Spoke to the board regarding Attorney Dusek's resignation noted that it should be
accepted with regret.
TOWN BOARD-In agreement.
MR. SALVADOR-Spoke to the board regarding the public hearing in May concerning the waterfront
zoning. Questioned if the work will be completed by the consultants doing the Stormwater Management
Program in time for the meeting in May?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-It is doubtful.
MARILYN VANDYKE, TOWN HISTORIAN-Thanked the Town Board for the adoption of the resolution
relative to the acquisition of the Old Quaker Cemetery.
PLINEY TUCKER, QUEENSBURY-Questioned why the board is extending the contract for Hartgen
Archaeological Associates?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Going to do an archaeological study at the Hudson River Park. Noted it
order for the board to proceed with the SEQRA process we are going to have to do a more intense study.
ATTORNEY SCHACHNER-Hartgen Archeological Associates performed a Stage I, Archeological
Survey. The Archeological Survey did not find anything remarkable or unusual, but Hartgen did
recommend further study with a Stage IE, Archeological Field Investigation. This resolution authorizes
Hartgen Archeological to conduct the Stage IE, investigation.
MR. TUCKER-Questioned if the Town Board has received any petitions pertaining to a vote on the park by
the public?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-No.
MR. TUCKER-Questioned the funding for the West Glens Falls Fire Company the actual cost?
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-The West Glens Falls Fire Department when negotiating with the Town for
their contracts negotiated $80,000 as the building fund. They are using their $80,000 as a building fund
and are remodeling and adding a new part to their firehouse to meet the OSHA requirements that are now
being mandated.
CATHY GEOFFROY, COMPTROLLER-They have capped themselves at $81,000 as their debt service
payment if it goes over that that's all we're committed for.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-Noted their budget has not increased it is the same amount of money that
they've asked for in previous years.
MR. TUCKER-Questioned the status regarding the policy of the use of sand from the Highway
Department?
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-There is no written policy. Looking into this farther as far as legality.
MR. SALVADOR-Spoke to the Board regarding the water rates, questioned what the change was in the
resolution?
COUNCILMAN TURNER-Noted the resolution read commercial and industrial.
MR. SALVADOR-Questioned what use a trailer park would fall under?
RALPH VANDUSEN, DEPUTY WATER SUPERINTENDENT -A trailer park would be a residential use.
OPEN FORUM CLOSED 10:40 P.M.
RESOLUTION ENTERING EXECUTIVE SESSION
RESOLUTION NO. 144,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from Regular Session and
moves into Executive Session to discuss one matter pending litigation and one matter possible acquisition
of real property.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr.
Champagne
Noes: None
Absent:None
RESOLUTION ADJOURNING EXECUTIVE SESSION AND TOWN BOARD MEETING
RESOLUTION NO. 145,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from Executive Session
and moves back into Regular Session, and
BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED, that Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns its Regular Meeting.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr.
Champagne
Noes: None
Absent:None
No further action taken.
On motion, the meeting adjourned.
Respectfully Submitted,
Darleen M. Dougher
Town Clerk
Town of Queensbury