1996-04-14
REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING
APRIL 15,1996
7:00 P.M.
MTG.#17
RES.#178-196
TOWN BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT
Supervisor Fred Champagne
Councilman Betty Monahan
Councilman Theodore Turner
Councilman Connie Goedert
Councilman Carol Pulver
Town Counsel Mark Schachner
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-OPENED THE MEETING
EMPLOYEE SERVICE AWARD PROGRAM
SUPERVISOR CHAMP AGNE-I am going to take just a moment, here and kind of say a few things about
our staff, if! may. First, I would like to welcome those of you certainly employees, employee spouses,
friends and relatives to the Employee Recognition Ceremony this evening. Thank you certainly for joining
us to celebrate this event. It is an honor and a special occasion for me again this year to be able to honor
and recognize those of you who are here tonight to receive this honor. We are privileged to have a
committed, dedicated and resourceful employees servicing the Town. An outstanding team of Department
heads who together accept full responsibility and accountability to the town service to its residents and the
high performing group who have the responsibility for maintaining our roads, our buildings, recreational
activities, water, wastewater by none the health and safety to promote the future development in zoning and
are working very hard at, certainly working with revenues and the expenditures and vital statistic, the
history our financial obligations, legal affairs the justice department, senior citizens and I hope I have not
left anyone out, if I have pardon me. We salute you. Weare here tonight to honor those who have
contributed far more than just their time and certainly their talent to this town. All to often we fail to
recognize the quality of service that these people deliver to our residents on a day to day basis. All to often
those of us that are on the end of the phone never really appreciate what is coming through those lines until
after the conversation. You are the individuals who keep the wheels of progress turning in this Town
government. Certainly it is the expertise and the creativity that continue to make Queensbury a World
Class Community. As I listen to our people in the Clerk's Office, our Community Development Office our
Town Assessor's Office and all the offices though out the Town I am convinced that Queensbury is on the
cutting edge of the work place reform. Our employees are keeping pace with tomorrows technology for
which we take great pride. Queensbury is absolutely a model for other Towns in data processing and
computer networking. It takes a highly qualified work force to accomplish these tasks. One of the most
vital signs of the total quality service to our residents is building trust and confidence and I have to say
back into the government, through your efforts those of you here tonight to receive this award and others
they are making this happen. Our most valuable asset in Town government as in any operation is our
human resources just as in any others. You are the special people, very special to this Town, we are very
proud of you and all that you do for making Queensbury a great place to live and work. Thank you.
Awards given out...
Thanked individually by the Town Board
5 YEARS OF SERVICES
10 YEARS OF SERVICE
Jack Close
Paul Finch
Maria Giannetti
Patrick Harrington
Steve Lovering
Thomas Mattison
Vance Plante
Michael Trombley
Charles Winslow
Joan Wittenbert
Donald Beebe
Mark Dutra
Bob Vincent
John Langdon
15 YEARS OF SERVICE
Thomas Schweickert
Harold Brothers
20 YEARS OF SERVICE
Ed Matraw
Rick Missita
Donald Ogle
Karen Stockwell
Councilwomen Pulver-I would also like to congratulate everyone tonight that is receiving an award I have
always believed that without the dedication and loyalty of our employees we would be unable to provide
the excellent service to our residents. As we all know there are four types of bones that exist in every
organization. First there are the wish bones, these individuals spend most of their time wishing others
would do the work, then you have the jaw bone needless to say these people spend a lot of time talking
about the work that needs to be done, then we have the knuckle bone, they love to knock what everyone
else is doing and at last we have the back bone, they get the work done and without much fan fare or credit.
During her employment with the Town she has had multiple duties, her toughest job was working with the
Real Paul as a confidential secretary to the Highway Dept. She always got the job done without much fan
fare proving she was a strong back bone in our organization. It is a pleasure for me to present this next
award for Jean Purner for getting the job done without much fan fare or credit and being a strong back bone
at the Highway Dept. (Presented the award) On behalf of the Town Board we would like to present this
to you and hope that you have a very happy retirement.
Mrs. Purner-I have been here for ten years, eight years with Paul and two years with Darleen and now I am
on my own, thank you.
HEARING
SERVICE AWARD PROGRAM - JOEL E. HOLDEN
Supervisor Champagne-The next item of business is the hearing on the service award program regarding
Joel Holdens 1994 year, evidently there was some numbers that did not get included in the report that went
to the Penflex group whereby our fire folks and our emergency squad people get an award upwards to fifty
points I believe it is annually and consequently qualify for a retirement benefit or service award as we call
it. So, here tonight is Chip who will discuss with us and tell us some of the things we need to do. This is
strictly a formality it is a process that we must go through as a result of lack of information at the point in
time when the information was due so that is what we are going to do for the next few minutes. (proposed
resolution read)
Chip it is my understanding that during the gathering of the information among the firefighters by the
recorder that somewhere in the process Joel's credits if you will were lost in the shuffle I guess is the best
way I can describe it. Tell us a little bit about that.
Chip (Unknown) -Well in '94 we were going through a transition from my predecessor to myself doing the
award points, late '94 the second half of '94 in the process of this information it got misplaced, it did not
have this in my hand or my predecessor hands. In the later part of '95 when Joel received his statement
from Penflex he noticed he was missing his $400. for '94 and asked why he did not get it. I looked at the
records and he had forty something points I said that in the letter, and he said, we went through it and he
did not get points for his training. I said, well, you have a copy of the certificate I don't have it. He cae up
with a copy for 1994 his training certificate so I sent a letter to Penflex asking if there is any kind of a
procedure to award him the points. He apparently missed the thirty day posting early in '95 so that was
when you were supposed to protest or ask why you do not have all the points. Of course the statement was
kind of late in '95 of getting to us so that is the reason why it is so long here before it was noticed. I did
begin to look around the office after he complained and was able to find a certificate that he could submit
in '94.
Supervisor Champagne-So he had valid data?
Mr. Chip (UNKNOWN) -Yes. And the certificate was for sixteen hours of training which would have put
him over the fifty point threshold which would have gotten him the four hundred dollars.
Supervisor Champagne-Questions from the Board? Council how do we want to word the resolved?
Council Schachner-Assuming you wish to grant the request I would propose to state that in the Resolved
paragraph take out the word denies....add Mr. Holden has adequately demonstrated and documented that
his participation in the 1994 training program was sufficient to be entitled to the additional credit for points
sought.
RESOLUTION CONCERNING SERVICE AWARD CREDIT
FOR MR. JOEL E. HOLDEN
RESOLUTION NO.: 178.96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury presently has in effect a Service Award Program for the
Town of Queensbury firemen, and
WHEREAS, Mr. Joel E. Holden, a fire fighter for Queensbury Central Volunteer Fire Company,
Inc., has written a letter to the Town of Queensbury requesting that the Town Board consider granting him
additional service award credit for points earned during the 1994 year, and
WHEREAS, on April 15, 1996, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury held a hearing to
consider the request of fire fighter Joel E. Holden that the Town Board consider granting him additional
service award credit for points earned during the 1994 year,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby grants fire fighter Joel E.
Holden the additional service award credit for points earned during the 1994 year, for the reasons set forth
as follows: Mr. Holden has adequately demonstrated and documented that his participation in the 1994
training program was sufficient to be entitled to the additional credit per points sought.
Duly adopted this 15th day of April, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES : Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr. Champagne
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
CORRESPONDENCE
-lTR. Shirley A Moore Thanking Landfill Employees - on file
-L TR. Bob Joy Thanking Dave Hatin - on file
-L TR. Roger Smith Thanking Sandy Eggleston - on file
RESOLUTIONS
RESOLUTION ADOPTING DETERMINATION OF NON-SIGNIFICANCE OF HUDSON RIVER
PARK
RESOLUTION NO. 179.96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
(voted on after EIS PART II)
Councilman Monahan-Asked Mr. Hansen questions regarding Part I
Page 2 under drainage Moderately well drained 40% of the site Poorly drained 60% of the site..where are
they?
Mr. Hansen -Recreation Director-The poorly drained area of the site would be above the river and the other
site would be down by the river.
Councilman Monahan-Page 3 #8 What is the depth of the water table? 5' How was that determined?
Mr. Hansen-Recreation Dir. -That was an estimate, but it was verified by the archeological people who went
down as much as two meters which is over six feet and did not find any standing water after two to three
hours of digging.
Councilman Monahan-I have read their report and I find that there was places where it was less than five
feet another one where they said and wet indicating a fairly high water table.
Mr. Hansen-Recreation Dir.-I called that on them today and they have sent another copy which indicates
that that line is going to be taken out they did not feel that they were qualified to indicate what the water
table was. They knew up to the six foot level, of the two meter level that they had dug to, did not indicate a
high ground water so therefore I questioned whether they could make that statement there and they agreed
and took that statement out. I have another copy that just came in a fax at 4: 15, so you have a last minute
copy of the hard copy has not yet come.
Councilman Monahan-If we were getting this information from an applicant that was not the Town what
would we require and from what kind of professional background could determine the depth of the water
table?
Executive Director Martin-We have a qualified list of people who do a modeling test where you look at a
cross section of soil in a test pit and you can tell what the seasonal high ground water table is and so on.
There are several engineering firms or individuals that work in engineering firms around town who have
the background to do that.
Councilman Monahan-Harry I am assuming that, that has not been done?
Mr. Hansen-Recreation Director-No
Councilman Monahan-Question 19 Where it talks about the critical environmental area, Jim this land is
within our local critical environmental area as we list it in our zoning when we describe the land along the
rivers etc.?
Executive Director Martin-I honestly do not know a local standard for that.
Councilman Monahan-This is, read from the water front residential zone, ...to protect the delicate
ecological balance of all lakes in the Hudson River while providing adequate opportunities for
development that would not be detrimental to the visual character of the shore line ...We have to take that
into consideration as we look at this.
Executive Director Martin-We have several designated under the State Codes, the Shore line of Glen Lake
and Lake George are major areas there are none under that on the river...
Councilman Monahan-Page 3 B 1 I. Dimension and feet of largest proposed structure? To what structure
does that apply?
Mr. Hansen-Recreation Dir.- It refers to the pavilion.
Councilman Monahan-On page 4 Number of jobs generated during construction? Is the twenty five is that
number from outside contractors or our own forces that will be doing this instead of something else or a
combination?
Mr. Hansen-Recreation Dir. -That was an estimate based on outside construction, we were more in-house
was the equivalent of one full time individual, a part time individual monitoring the boat launch, we if had
someone cleaning the facility, picking up garbage we equated that to one full time over a one year period.
Councilman Monahan-Question 5 Is that project or any portion of the project located on a one hundred
year flood plain, it is, does that put any constraints, restrains on what we do or the method of the manner in
which we do it?
Executive Dir. Martin-I know that there are standards if you build a single family dwelling or a building
that will carry a certain occupancy rating under the building code, it would be subject to certain building
requirements in terms of the finish floor elevation as it relates to the floor elevation. That is as much as I
know of the standard.
Councilman Monahan-So we do not know if this will apply to the pavilion?
Executive Dir. Martin-It would depend on the occupancy rating of the pavilion.
Councilman Monahan-Is this going to have to go in front of any of the Boards of Warren County?
Executive Dir. Martin-Not that I am aware of.
Councilman Monahan-Questioned if Warren County should be listed as an approval agency?
Council Schachner-By virtue of the fact that the County Board of Supervisors has to approve the agreement
that they are involved in that respect.
Councilman Monahan-We should add Warren County on that list.
I just want to point out in C 1 this is a Water Front Residential Zone, Water Front Residential does not
permit, a public boat launch on the other hand I know as a Town we are exempt from our own zoning
regulations.
Executive Dir. Martin-That is correct.
Councilman Monahan-I am not sure about the answer to number 6, Does the proposed action consistent
with the recommended uses in the adopted local use plans? Yes is checked.
Mr. Hansen, Recreation Dir.-It says in the Recreation Master Plan that the Town Board...
Councilman Monahan-That is not the local land use plan.
Executive Dir. Martin-As far as I know the plan does make some general statements there is very little in
specifics but it does make general statement about access to water and things like that should be
encouraged and recreational opportunities.
Councilman Monahan-lam wondering about the answer to question 11 Will the proposed action create a
demand for any community provided services. The question is no, but since recreation is one of those
services and this is what we are creating a demand for I am wondering again Jim, if that is the correct
answer, should that be changed to a yes?
Executive Dir. Martin-I think it could be if recreation is listed there. Hopefully these facilities once
established will be in demand.
Councilman Monahan-That no should become a yes. If yes is existing capacity sufficient to handle
projected demand, I do not think we have determined that yet. I think also the Town Board will have to
determine twelve, will proposed action result in a generation of traffic significantly above present levels,
the answer is yes and if yes, is the existing road network adequate to handle the additional traffic. I think
that is something that we have to determine. Those are my comments on Part I.
Part II. That part that we can answer I believe that there are some parts we cannot answer because we do
not have sufficient information.
Supervisor Champagne-It would be my hope that once we have been through Part II we ought to have the
specific unanswered questions and at that point we ought to begin to at least send in the right direction to
get them.
PART II.
IMPACT ON LAND
1. Will the proposed action result in physical change to the project site: YES
Examples that would apply
Any construction on slopes of 15% or greater, (15 foot rise per 100 foot of length), or where the
general slopes in the project area exceed 1O%. NO
Construction on land where the depth to the water table is less than 3 feet.
Discussion held-Councilman Monahan-We do not know that until we get test borings. Mr. Hansen-
Recreation Dir. -Spoke to the Board on what type of testing had been done..Executive Director Martin-
Noted that the depth of water table will come into consideration if you have a septic system or if you have a
drainage system proposed or you are looking to infiltrate storm water run off, these are the areas where
water table is taken into consideration. Councilman Pulver-noted that if the park was to be successful they
may have leach fields for bathrooms...Councilman Monahan-Questioned the cost involved for that type of
facility? We have inadequate information that we would not accept if we were not the Town doing the
development the Town should uphold its own standards. If in the future you need leach fields, this should
be being done for the maximum impact that could happen on this land. (NO ACTION TAKEN AT THIS
TIME) Councilman Monahan-I think the Attorney should now put it on the record that he is a member of
the Recreation Commission.
Council Mark Schachner-That is fine.
Construction of paved parking area for 1,000 or more vehicles. NO
Construction on land where bedrock is exposed or generally within 3 feet of existing ground
surface. NO
Construction that will continue for more then 1 year or involve more than one phase or stage. NO
Excavation for mining purposes that would remove more than 1,000 tons of natural material (i.e.,
rock or soil) per year. NO
Construction or expansion of a sanitary landfill. NO
Construction in a designated floodway. YES SMALL TO MODERATE IMPACT CAN BE
MITIGATED BY PROJECT CHANGE
Other impacts:
Discussion-Recreation Director Hansen-Construction in floodway will consist of single ball field, the
basketball court and parking... Councilman Monahan-It would seem whether it is small to moderate or
potential to large that it could be mitigated by a project change and I am thinking like the fill that was
brought in...? Executive Director Martin-I think you are basically leaving a natural landscape there the only
structure in that area is the pavilion...Recreation Director Hansen-The pavilion is in the field
area...Councilman Monahan-..it could be mitigated by a project change...
2. Will there be an effect to any unique or unusual land forms found on the site? (i.e., cliffs, dunes,
geological formations, etc.) NO
Specific land forms:
IMPACT ON WATER
3. Will proposed action affect any water body designated as protected? NO
Examples that would apply
Developable area of site contains a protected water body.
Dredging more than 100 cubic yards of material from channel of a protected stream.
Extension of utility distribution facilities through a protected water body.
Construction in a designated freshwater or tidal wetland.
Other impacts:
4. Will proposed action affect any non-protected existing or new body of water? NO
Examples that would apply
A 10% increase or decrease in the surface area of any body of water or more than a 10 acre
increase or decrease.
Construction of a body of water that exceeds 10 acres of surface area.
Other impacts:
5. Will proposed action affect surface or groundwater quality or quantity? (TO BE ANSWERED AT A
LATER TIME)
Examples that would apply
Proposed action will require a discharge permit.
Proposed action requires use of a source of water that does not have approval to serve proposed
(project) action.
Proposed action requires water supply from wells with greater than 45 gallons per minute
pumping capacity.
Construction or operation causing any contamination of a water supply system.
Proposed action will adversely affect groundwater.
Liquid effluent will be conveyed off the site to facilities which presently do not exist or have
inadequate capacity.
Proposed action would use water in excess of 20,000 gallons per day.
Proposed action will likely cause siltation or other discharge into an existing body of water to the
extent that there will be an obvious visual contrast to natural conditions.
Proposed action will require the storage of petroleum or chemical products greater than 1,100
gallons.
Proposed action will allow residential uses in areas without water and/or sewer services.
Proposed action locates commercial and/or industrial uses which may require new or expansion of
existing waste treatment and/or storage facilities.
Other impacts:
Discussion-Councilman Monahan-I do not know if it will or not, I think it goes right back to whether
bathrooms are going to be put in I do not think frankly you can do this park without at least doing clavus or
cleaves type of facilities that DEC uses in the Adirondacks. If you have a lot of people using that they are
going to go to the bathroom someplace. We have to determine what type of bathroom facilities are going
to go in there if not we are going to have to look at the consequences as Sandy Bay wetlands did of having
that happen. Recreation Director Hansen-Discussed the possibility of putting in a porta potty for the
summer to see what type of usage we have, if there is a need for a more permanent structure I think at that
time it would have to be a whole different application or project it would take probably going through
something like this to determine what the best facility might be under the circumstances. Noted there are
no bathrooms at some of our other parks...Councilman Monahan-That is not equalivant to this, they are in
neighborhoods where they can run home....
6. Will proposed action alter drainage flow or patterns, or surface water runoff? NO
Examples that would apply
Proposed action would change flood water flows.
Proposed action may cause substantial erosion.
Proposed action is incompatible with existing drainage patterns.
Proposed action will allow development in a designated floodway.
Other impacts:
IMPACT ON AIR
7. Will proposed action affect air quality? NO
Examples that would apply
Proposed action will induce 1,000 or more vehicle trips in any given hour.
Proposed action will result in the incineration of more than 1 ton of refuse per hour.
Emission rate of total contaminants will exceed 5 Ibs. per hour or a heat source producing more
than 10 million BTU's per hour.
Proposed action will allow an increase in the amount of land committed to industrial use.
Proposed action will allow an increase in the density of industrial development within existing
industrial areas.
Other impacts:
IMP ACT ON PLANTS AND ANIMALS
8. Will proposed action affect any threatened or endangered species? NO
Examples that would apply
Reduction of one or more species listed on the New York or Federal list, using the site, over or
near site or found on the site.
Removal of any portion of a critical or significant wildlife habitat.
Application of pesticide or herbicide more than twice a year, other than for agricultural purposes.
Other impacts:
9. Will proposed action substantially affect non-threatened or non-endangered species? NO
Examples that would apply
Proposed action would substantially interfere with any resident or migratory fish, shellfish or
wildlife species.
Proposed action requires the removal of more than 10 acres of mature forest (over 100 years of
age) or other locally important vegetation.
IMP ACT ON AGRICULTURAL LAND RESOURCES
10. Will the proposed action affect agricultural land resources? NO
Examples that would apply
The proposed action would sever, cross or limit access to agricultural land (includes cropland,
hayfields, pasture, vineyard, orchard, etc.)
Construction activity would excavate or compact the soil profile of agricultural land.
The proposed action would irreversibly convert more than 10 acres of agricultural land or, if
located in an Agricultural District, more than 2.5 acres of agricultural land.
The proposed action would disrupt or prevent installation of agricultural land management
systems (e.g., subsurface drain lines, outlet ditches, strip cropping); or create a need for such measures (e.g.
cause a farm field to drain poorly due to increased runoff)
Other impacts:
IMP ACT ON AESTHETIC RESOURCES
11. Will proposed action affect aesthetic resources? NO
Examples that would apply
Proposed land uses, or project components obviously different from or in sharp contrast to current
surrounding land use patterns, whether man-made or natural.
Proposed land uses, or project components visible to users of aesthetic resources which will
eliminate or significantly reduce their enjoyment of the aesthetic qualities of that resource.
Project components that will result in the elimination or significant screening of scenic views
known to be important to the area.
Other impacts:
IMP ACT ON HISTORIC AND ARCHAEOLOCIAL RESOURCES
12. Will proposed action impact any site or structure of historic, pre-historic or paleontological
importance? NO
Examples that would apply
Proposed action occurring wholly or partially within or substantially contiguous to any facility or
site listed on the State or National Register of historic places.
Any impact to an archaeological site or fossil bed located within the project site.
Proposed action will occur in an area designated as sensitive for archaeological sites on the NYS
Site Inventory.
Other impacts:
IMPACT ON OPEN SPACE AND RECREATION
13. Will proposed action affect the quantity or quality of existing or future open spaces or recreational
opportunities? YES
Examples that would apply
The permanent foreclosure of a future recreational opportunity. NO
A major reduction of an open space important to the community. NO
Other impacts: (TO BE ANSWERED AT A LATER DATE)
IMP ACT ON CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL AREAS
14. Will proposed action impact the exceptional or unique characteristics of a critical environmental area
(CEA) established pursuant to subdivision 6 NYCRR 617 .14(g)? NO
Examples that would apply
Proposed action to locate within the CEA?
Proposed action will result in a reduction in the quantity of the resource?
Proposed action will result in a reduction in the quality of the resource?
Proposed action will impact the use, function or enjoyment of the resource?
Other impacts:
IMPACT ON TRANSPORTATION
15. Will there be an effect to existing transportation systems?
NO
Examples that would apply
Alteration of present patterns of movement of people and/or goods.
Proposed action will result in major traffic problems.
Other impacts:
Discussion held-Councilman Monahan-We have not had an evaluation of how many people are going to
use this Park, what is going to be the given amount of traffic going in and out during a day, we have not
had an estimate of that so how do we know? Executive Director Martin-Part One refers to a trip generation
number. Recreation Director Hansen-l 5 cars per hour estimated...Councilman Pulver-If they are not going
to drive how are they going to get there? Recreation Director Hansen-We have bike paths. We will be
limited by the parking lot size...Councilman Monahan-Questioned if the ball fields will be used for league
play? Recreation Director Hansen-Noted it was for practice only not league play...one field would not be
sufficient ... this would be a sand lot type of facility.
IMP ACT ON ENERGY
16. Will proposed action affect the community's sources offuel or energy supply? NO
Examples that would apply
Proposed action will cause a greater than 5% increase in the use of any form of energy in the
municipality.
Proposed action will require the creation or extension of an energy transmission or supply system
to serve more than 50 single or two family residences or to serve a major commercial or industrial use.
Other impacts:
NOISE AND ODOR IMP ACTS
17. Will there be objectionable odors, noise, or vibration as a result of the proposed action? NO
Examples that would apply
Blasting within 1,500 feet of a hospital, school or other sensitive facility.
Odors will occur routinely (more than one hour per day).
Proposed action will produce operating noise exceeding the local ambient noise levels for noise
outside of structures.
Proposed action will remove natural barriers that would act as a noise screen.
Other impacts:
IMP ACT ON PUBLIC HEALTH
18. Will proposed action affect public health and safety? NO
Examples that would apply
Proposed action may cause a risk of explosion or release of hazardous substances (i.e. oil,
pesticides, chemicals, radiation, etc.) in the event of accident or upset conditions, or there may be a chronic
low level discharge or emission.
Proposed action may result in the burial of "hazardous wastes" in any form (i.e. toxic, poisonous,
highly reactive, radioactive, irritating, infectious, etc.)
Storage facilities for one million or more gallons of liquified natural gas or other flammable
liquids.
Proposed action may result in the excavation or other disturbance within 2,000 feet of a site used
for the disposal of solid or hazardous waste.
Other impacts:
Discussion held-Councilman Monahan-It won't if we have bathrooms, if we don't it could, again you have
to get your bathroom settled.
IMP ACT ON GROWTH AND CHARACTER OF COMMUNITY OR NEIGHBORHOOD
19. Will proposed action affect the character of the existing community? YES
Examples that would apply
The permanent population of the city, town or village in which the project is located is likely to
grow by more than 5%. NO
The municipal budget for capital expenditures or operating services will increase by more than 5%
per year as a result of this project. NO
Proposed action will conflict with officially adopted plans or goals. NO
Proposed action will cause a change in the density of land use. NO
Proposed action will replace or eliminate existing facilities, structures or areas of historic
importance to the community. NO
Development will create a demand for additional community services (e.g. schools, police and
fire, etc.) NO
Proposed action will set an important precedent for future projects. NO
Proposed action will create or eliminate employment. NO
Other impacts: (TO BE ANSWERED AT A LATER TIME)
Discussion held-Councilman Goedert-I have an improvement. Councilman Monahan-I think you impact
any existing residential area when you put this kind of facility that is going to draw people from allover
you are bound to make some impact on your neighborhood. Questioned what size boats are going to be
permitted off that boat launch, I think that is another question that has to be answered here.
20. Is there, or is there likely to be, public controversy related to potential adverse environmental impacts?
YES
Discussion: Supervisor Champagne-Welcomed Mr. Pat Beland and Mr. Joseph Timko, Encon officer to
speak to the Board.
Mr. Beland has operated a boat launch there for fourteen years...
Mr. Pat Beland-First of all Warren County we ran an informal boat launch ramp for fourteen years down
off Big Boom Road. Over the years I probably never saw more than a half a dozen boats there at one time.
I will qualify in terms of the use of the facility the size of the boats. The facility does not really lend itself
to any large boats being launched here. It is kind of an inexpensive boat ramp put the grade all down there,
made a ramp, graded the road twice a year access was as good as we maintained the road so over the years
we have never really had a large cabin cruisers those type of vehicles down there. You can restrict boat
size from design, there are some ways to do it. You look at million dollar beach they have an underpass
which they have to go under, I think that is about seven, eight feet that somewhat restricts the size of the
boat that can get into that...you could do something similar there. Joe has spent a lot of time down there
than I did in law enforcement, matter of fact he proposed the facility I think he was the second person to
call complaining to me why his access was cut off to the river, he can probably give you a better feel as far
as usual type of boats that are using the boat ramp over the years. ..problems with the facility, the only
comments I had the mudders or the jeepers or what ever you call them that went down there and played in
the mud and that was with permission of the property owner I had no control over that occasionally they
would run up the road and I would get the complaints from the fishermen's going down there we would
have to re-grade the road. So, it was successful, low key inexpensive but it did work. We provide access to
recreation for a lot fishermen and the casual boater.
Mr. Joseph Timko-Environmental Conservation Officer working out of Ray Brook Office, assigned to
Queensbury, Lake Luzeme and Moreau. I told you I have been patrolling that section of water for the last
twenty years. I have been patrolling that section for a number of years I have launched there often I have
never found large boats there, the largest boats that are on that section of river belonged to the property
owner along the river. People are unable to launch large boats, anything over approximately twenty three
feet because the launch ramp on the Queensbury side is in tough shape and is going to need some repair on
the launch site on the Moreau side down on Nolan Road which is unrestricted is very shallow so
consequently you have to back a long way into the water to off-load your boat. By maintaining a shallow
launch you restrict the size of your boat, you do not even have to put an overhead up. As far as the use that,
that gets down there we are seeing an upsurge of use in the river mainly because they are charging a twenty
five dollar per year permit fee on Lake George now, so, consequently people are looking for alternative
areas to do their boating, fishing etc. Watersking religiously down through that area people have
waterskied either off the Moreau launch site very few times off the Queensbury side, more from up along
the properties on either side of the river to the west of the Northway. You get a few down through Twin
Channels Road in that area. Down stream from the Nolan Road launch site there are a lot of obstructions in
the water the old ...pillars, there are logs in there over the years we have pulled a number of boaters out of
there that have cracked up on the pilings or the rock piles or whatever it is something that we would have to
post signs so that it would be something that people would be aware of that are not trying to race down
through that area in a real large boat. By in large they stay up stream from that in that mile stretch from the
Northway Bridge to Nolan Road and then to the west of the Northway Bridge all the way up into Polliwog
Bay and further up. But it is a good fishing area, the State reduced the size limit on the bass in there
because they are stunted and it gives the bass fishermen good opportunity to fish in there ..size limit on bass
where normally it is twelve state wide. We are getting some jet skies down in there but I think we have got
those on every body of water that is big enough for them to get up on to plane on. My opinion, Pat asked
me about this, he had me give him a call, in my estimation we have a very limited access for the
handicapped in this town and if you instead of making the boat size, increase the size of the boat launch to
about, so you can get two boats in and out at a time and rather than put a four foot dock out on either side if
you make a solid construction, a solid rock pile twelve foot wide out on either side now you can run a
gradall out there and remove the mud any time plus if you pave it now you have given the handicapped
people access to go fishing in a town park which is tough to do right now. There is no place where they
can get right up to the edge of the water. The fishing in that river, I would say it is moderate it is not trophy
water by any means but we get some nice pickerel, perch, bass, there are a few walleye in there not a great
many but there is a few, once in a while we have people pull salmon out of there. It is a nice piece of
water, a boat launch there would make a lot of sense, it would make a nice park for the town in my opinion,
I do not know all the in's and out's all your permit process or anything else, but being down in there for
twenty years I think that with a little bit of grading and mow it and fix the road up a little bit and improving
the boat launch for very little investment you would get a lot of return in recreational use by the town.
Councilman Turner-Joe, what size boats would have gone in there before? motors?
Mr. Timko-You would see anything from 25-35-50's I have seen as large as 75 to 85's in there...they can
water ski in there and fish up and down at is a good spot.
Supervisor Champagne-There has been some talk about the waves and destruction of the shore line, from
your observation as you have observed that over the years do you sense a problem with that?
Mr. Timko-Not particularly. Noted along this area there is a six foot high bank with a rock base to it on
both sides...! have not seen anything come through there that affected the shore line that much that would
cause a big problem...
Councilman Monahan-Questioned where Hudson Pointe in relation to this seven miles of the Hudson
River?
Executive Director Martin-Hudson Pointe is west of there...
Mr. Timko-Hudson Pointe is just below Sherman Island you have got to be a good three and a half miles
down stream...
Councilman Monahan-Noted the concerns over the bluffs in that area, when we talk about 75-85 horse
power motors I have a concern about that...
Mr. Timko-Those bluffs are east of Sherman Island Dam, ...they are not going to be affected about any
large boats going up there because if you go into the final bay just below the dam at any rate of speed at all
you have a log tangle on one side and on the other side it shallows out to about a foot and half deep and if
they do not know where the water are they are not going to be going very fast for very long.
Supervisor Champagne-Thanked Mr. Timko and Mr. Beland
Executive Director Martin-Page 6 Number 1 Construction on land where the depth to the water table is
less than 3 feet.
Discussion held-Councilman Goedert-With the construction of a pavilion, questioned the depth of the
foundation? Recreation Director Hansen-Approximately 18" Supervisor Champagne-As far as ground
water effecting what this project is proposing to be at this stage I guess I do not see ground water as a
problem. Councilman Monahan-does the ground water when you are building anything, parking lots are
we going to force ground water any other place? Supervisor Champagne-Noted there is a drainage ditch...
ANSWER NO
Executive Director Martin-#5 Will Proposed Action affect surface or groundwater quality or quantity?
Discussion-Councilman Monahan-that gets right back to bathrooms. Supervisor Champagne-I am
approving this project based on what I see right there, that is as far as I am going with it. Ifbathrooms
become an issue it is an issue down the road to be dealt with. Councilman Monahan-I am saying if you put
that facility in now with no bathrooms you are going to have an impact over there. Mr. Belden-described
the bathroom facilities now being placed in the Adirondack...units approximately $25,000.
ANSWER NO
Town Counsel Mr. Schachner-Number 13 Will proposed Action affect the quantity or quality of existing or
future open spaces or recreational opportunities? YES
DISCUSSION-Executive Director Martin- Under Other impacts:
Positive impact on Recreation.
SMALL TO MODERATE IMPACT
Executive Director Martin-No. 19. IMPACT ON GROWTH AND CHARACTER OF COMMUNITY OR
NEIGHBORHOOD YES OTHER IMPACTS:
Councilman Monahan-The impact is when you put a recreational facility anyplace in a residential area that
is not strictly a neighborhood park and you are starting to bring in from allover which this will do, you are
affecting the residents in that area with noise of cars, dust, etc.
IMP ACT TO RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER
SMALL TO MODERATE IMPACT
Reasons Supporting This Determination
AFTER EVALUATING THE PROJECT GOING THROUGH THE EAF THE BOARD HAS
DETERMINED THAT THERE APPEARS TO BE NO IMPACT.
DISCUSSION HELD REGARDING QUESTION #20: Town Counsel Schachner-You checked off the
box ...unlike the first nineteen questions under the SEQRA form there is no requirement of evaluating the
potential size of the answered item twenty.
RESOLUTION ADOPTING DETERMINATION OF NON-SIGNIFICANCE
OF HUDSON RIVER PARK
RESOLUTION NO.: 179.96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is considering the development of a
park adjacent to the Hudson River, off of Big Boom Road in the Town of Queensbury to be known as
Hudson River Park, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is duly qualified to act as lead agency
with respect to compliance with SEQRA which requires environmental review of certain actions
undertaken by local governments, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, pursuant to Resolution No. 454, 95
enacted on August 21, 1995, sought SEQRA lead agency status and notified other involved agencies of its
intention, and
WHEREAS, the proposed action is an unlisted action pursuant to the Rules and Regulations of the
State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA), and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury has taken a hard look at the possible
environmental impacts of this action including review of a SEQRA Long Form Environmental Assessment
Form (EAF),
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is hereby designated as the
SEQRA Lead Agency for environmental review of this project, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby finds that the proposed
responses in Part II of the said EAF are satisfactory and approved, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, after considering the action
proposed herein, reviewing the Full Environmental Assessment Form, and thoroughly analyzing the project
with respect to potential environmental concerns, determines that the action will not have a significant
effect on the environment, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor is hereby authorized and directed to complete and execute
Part III of the said Full Environmental Assessment Form and to check the box thereon indicating that the
proposed action will not result in any significant adverse impacts, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the annexed Negative Declaration is hereby approved and the Executive
Director is hereby authorized and directed to file the same in accordance with the provisions of the general
regulations of the Department of Environmental Conservation and mail a copy of this determination to all
involved agencies.
Duly adopted this 15th day of April, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES
Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr. Champagne
NOES
Mrs. Monahan
ABSENT: None
Councilman Monahan- Vote-Based on the fact that we don't have test borings so we have not addressed the
problems of the bathrooms.
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING REVOCABLE LICENSE AGREEMENT
(HUDSON RIVER PARK AND RECREATION AREA)
RESOLUTION NO.: 180.96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, Warren County owns certain property on the north side of the Hudson River and on
the east side of the Adirondack Northway in the Town of Queensbury, said parcel consisting of 44.34 acres
and having been given to Warren County in 1993 by Carl R. and Barbara W. DeSantis, on the condition
that the property would be used forever as a public park and recreation area to be enjoyed by the general
public, and
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury has been awarded grant funds by the New York State
Office of Parks and Recreation for the development and construction of a public park and recreation area in
the Town at this location, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury has recommended that this park and
recreation area be constructed on the Hudson River Property referred to above, and
WHEREAS, the Warren County Board of Supervisors, by Resolution No. 388 of 1995, has
authorized a Revocable License Agreement with the Town for use of the Hudson River Property for a
public park and recreation area, and
WHEREAS, a copy of the proposed Revocable License Agreement has been presented at this
meeting,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes the Town of
Queensbury to enter into a Revocable License Agreement with Warren County and authorizes and directs
the Town Supervisor to execute said Agreement, for the use of the lands owned by Warren County referred
to in this Resolution, for the construction of a public park and recreation area (Hudson River Park), for a
term not to exceed ten (10) years with renewal options and such other terms and conditions in the form
approved by Town Counsel, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that should Warren County revoke the License for any reason, the Town of
Queensbury shall, upon such revocation, be allowed to remove personal property or items that could be
identified as trade fixtures, and Warren County shall reimburse the Town of Queensbury for all fixtures or
other improvements that are not capable of being removed at the full cost thereof less an amount for
annualized depreciation of improvements based on a depreciation schedule to be approved by Town
Counsel and pursuant to ~ 11 of the Local Finance Law.
Duly adopted this 15th day of April, 1996 by the following vote:
AYES Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mr. Champagne
NOES None
ABSENT: None
Discussion held-Supervisor Champagne-This is the revokable license agreement I believe it is for ten years,
between the Town and the County giving us the ok to proceed to cut the deal. Councilman Goedert-Item
llA on page 7 in the next resolution the resolve that is chosen as the or will take care of this paragraph,
correct? Town Counsel Schachner -Yes and no in that, the way that it might take care of the paragraph is
that it might require modification of the paragraph but one way or the other that paragraph llA will be
pinned down as the result of how you handle the next resolution. Councilman Pulver-Noted on page eight it
says Victor Grant Chairman of the Board of Supervisors, he is no longer the chairman...Town Counsel
Schachner-This is just a draft ....
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING PROJECT AND WITHDRAWL FROM CAPITAL RESERVE FUND
RESOLUTION NO. 181.96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
(NO ACTION TAKEN AT THIS TIME MOTION HELD)
DISCUSSION HELD-SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-What we are doing here is taking the funds to
support this project at Hudson River Park from the existing Town Recreation Fund that the Contractors
have paid into over the course of the last several years totaling approximately $380,000. These funds can
only be accessed through a permissive referendum, the concern is there has been a petition, non valid
number about 420 signatures those folks interested in a referendum. The resolution has been written to
either allow for 420 for the board to proceed to a permissive referendum or do we go back and say that is
not the boards opinion but rather to turn back to the people and bring me in a valid petition signed sealed
and delivered according to the State requirements and then the Board would act on that, so that is what we
are talking about here. Councilman Pulver-I feel that we need to bring this before the people for a vote.
We had four hundred plus people request that the Town Board bring this issue to the people for a vote we
do things all the time when people bring us petitions we put up stop signs we put up street lights or
whatever and that is what we are here for to respond to the people when they ask us to do something and
we have been asked to do something and I think we have the ability to do it and we should do it. Town
Counsel Schachner-Two items of clarification, when Fred explained about all withdrawals from the
Recreation Account being subject to permissive referendum I cannot find that withdrawing anything from
that account is subject to permissive referendum but for the purposes of tonights debate that is not relevant
because this is, would be subject to permissive referendum, this amount, for this purpose. The second item,
change amount to read $163,225. in the resolution. Councilman Pulver-This park will take $8,000 for the
maintenance of this park per year and also in the SEQRA resolution we heard that it would take one full
time individual to patrol the park, pickup garbage or whatever, now that would mean that this money is not
currently in the recreation budget so we would have to come up with this money and I am going to assume
we would raise taxes to do it. Councilman Goedert-Harry, do you feel that it would take another increase in
employment to? Recreation Director Hansen-I think when we marked the one full time individual we said
the part time individual would equate to one full time position over a year it is not going to take a new
individual or anyone specifically earmarked to do the maintenance. The eight thousand dollar figure is an
estimate of maintenance, grass cutting, trail maintenance, supervision if we decide to do it. It will not take
one new full person to oversee this facility, we can do it with our present staff. Councilman Monahan-I
think we have to determine about the permissive referendum, my feeling is this, since Mark says this is
subject to permissive referendum if the people have collected that many signatures on what would be
actually an invalid petition they certainly can go out and have to go through the effort of doing it again and
which certainly is do-able and do a correct petition, I personally do not want to be the kind of a Town
Board member that says you have to do that before I recognize the desire of the people to have a permissive
referendum. I would like to see that resolution read that we will do a permissive referendum. Supervisor
Champagne-So what we have now is four hundred and twenty sum odd signatures on a invalid petition for
a permissive referendum, that is what we have. In the past we have sent the Bay Bridge folks, we have sent
the Twicwood folks back out to get what I consider to be an absolute proof positive tested in court petition.
Councilman Pulver-They just had to get the correct number, they did not have the correct number of
people. Councilman Goedert-I believe Bay Bridge didn't they submit it once and because each signature is
not notarized it was sent back out? Supervisor Champagne-In order for this Board to have acted in the past
we acted only on what our Counsel has said is a valid petition and I have a concern that we are setting a
precedent for having any four hundred and twenty signatures where ever they came from or who ever they
are signed by someone and, and I am not for or against it, all I am saying to you is that we now have in
front of us an invalid signature of four hundred and twenty sum odd people without what I consider to be
reliable valid signatures. Councilman Monahan-I think we should say to the public why this petition is
invalid. It is invalid, number one because we have received it before we are voting on the action and
number two our petition needs to have your actual address and the ward in which you are in and number
three you have to have a person who signs as a witness to these signatures and I am not sure if there are any
other reasons why this is not valid but those are the reasons this is not considered a valid petition.
Councilman Pulver-We can burden our constituents now to go back out and get these the correct amount
and filled out hire an Attorney and do whatever or we can just respond to our constituents which I feel as
elected officials that is what we are supposed to do and do the right thing since it is within our power at this
time to do that. Councilman Goedert-I will play the devils advocate and I do not want anyone to take
anything that I am saying the wrong way except that we can put all the halo's on this that we want to put on
it, the fact of the matter is, as I recognize the taxpayers too and because I have a petition with so many
names on it that I ignore the fact that I forced them into going out and getting the legal petition to bring this
question to an unquestionable response because if they go out and get the legal petition do the job the way
the law see it to be done then there is no question about it they get it to go to referendum. My job, I feel I
was elected to represent the taxpayers and I also feel that there are other taxpayers in the Town of
Queensbury that are not interested in this going to referendum and lets add the cost off act of taking this to
permissive referendum. I also would state that I feel positive enough in my decision making process that I
would be opposed to the second resolution because I feel my job is to make the decision whether they be
tough or whether they be easy. The thing we need to do is we need to move on with this if the public has
the required amount of signatures to get then they need to submit the petition the legal petition in the thirty
day amount of time otherwise I feel confident enough that I was elected because I make the most and the
right decisions and they have the steps that they can take to challenge that without any problem, and it
solves it. Supervisor Champagne-If we proceed with a referendum at this stage I believe the numbers that
we are looking at here cost for the referendum somewhere in the neighborhood of six thousand...Town
Clerk Dougher-Six thousand for a half a day and eightyfive hundred for a full day...Councilman Monahan-
It is my understanding that we would not have to have every election district open that we could specify
elections districts around the town, the cost would depend on how many elections districts that we open up.
Supervisor Champagne-Whether to proceed after we approve this tonight within the next thirty days with a
petition, once the petition is in then you have another period of time to get the vote which I believe 60-75
days or do we move this to the November Election and let it happen then? Councilman Monahan-Then the
grant is gone... Supervisor Champagne-We have had some conversation with the State there is still going to
give us lea-way there. Councilman Monahan-Noted that in the petition every address was in the Town of
Queensbury, and others were crossed off. Councilman Turner-I think this should go the legal steps with a
legal petition like everybody else has to do. This does not constitute a legal petition at all. No matter what.
RESOLUTION AMENDING RESOLUTION NO. 181.96 AUTHORIZING REVOCABLE LICENSE
AGREEMENT (HUDSON RIVER PARK AND RECREATION AREA)
RESOLUTION NO. 182.96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
RESOLVED, that the following RESOLVED clause replace the existing final RESOLVE Clause
in resolution NO. 181.96 as follows:
RESOLVED, that should Warren County revoke the License for any reason, the Town of
Queensbury shall, upon such revocation, be allowed to remove personal property or items that could be
identified as trade fixtures, and Warren County shall reimburse the Town of Queensbury for all fixtures or
other improvements that are not capable of being removed at the full cost thereof less an amount for
annualized depreciation of improvements based on a depreciation schedule to be approved by Town
Counsel and pursuant to Section 11 of the Local Finance Law.
Duly adopted this 15th day of April, 1996 by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan
NOES: Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mr. Champagne
ABSENT: None
(RESOLUTION 181.96 BROUGHT FORTH)
(Agreed by the Introducer and seconder that this resolution includes the first Resolved paragraph only)
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING PROJECT AND WITHDRAWAL
FROM CAPITAL RESERVE FUND
RESOLUTION NO.: 181.96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury has previously established a capital
reserve fund for future recreational developments known as a new recreational facility capital construction
account, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury desires to withdraw and expend moneys
from the said reserve account in the amount of $163,225. for a specific capital improvement and certain
items of equipment for the Hudson River Park Project, development to consist of: a) entry gate & fencing,
access road, parking, site amenities; b) play apparatus, pavilion/picnic area; c) nature/ski trail; d) basketball
court; e) softball field; f) boat launch, berths, fishing access; and g) landscape architectural design and
construction services for all of the above;
and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is authorized by ~6(c) of the General
Municipal Law of the State of New York to withdraw and expend funds from the aforesaid capital reserve
fund moneys in accordance with the terms and conditions set forth therein,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes the recreation
project aforedescribed as the Hudson River Park Project in the total amount of $163,225., for the work
previously described, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes and directs the
Town Supervisor of the Town of Queensbury to establish a separate capital project fund for the project
authorized, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes a withdrawal
and expenditure from the aforesaid capital reserve fund in the amount of $163,225. to fund the
aforedescribed project, such funds to be placed into the capital project fund to be established pursuant to
this Resolution, and the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby further directs that in the event
there are funds remaining in said capital project fund after the completion of the project or in the event that
said project is not undertaken, the moneys in the capital projects fund shall be returned to the capital
reserve fund, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby finds that the withdrawal
and expenditure for the previously identified recreation project known as the Hudson River Park Project, is
an expenditure for a specific capital project and items of equipment for which the reserve account was
established, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that this Resolution is subject to a permissive referendum in accordance with the
provisions of Article 7 of the Town Law and the Town Clerk of the Town of Queensbury is hereby
authorized and directed to publish and post such notices and take such other actions as may be required by
law.
Duly adopted this 15th day of April, 1996 by the following vote:
AYES
Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr. Champagne
NOES
None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION ACCEPTING RESIGNATION OF CATHERINE M. GEOFFROY,
TOWN COMPTROLLER
RESOLUTION NO.: 183.96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby accepts the resignation of
Catherine M. Geoffroy, Town Comptroller, effective May 3, 1996.
Duly adopted this 15th day of April, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Champagne
NOES None
ABSENT: None
Discussion held: Councilman Monahan-With regret and complementing Cathy on the great job she has
done for the town while she has been here. Cathy Geoffroy-I have accepted a new position with a company
out of Albany...
RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY'S EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK
RESOLUTION NO. 184.96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is desirous of adopting an Employee
Handbook, and
WHEREAS, an Employee Handbook has been presented at this meeting, and
WHEREAS, the aforementioned Handbook has been the subject of negotiation with the Civil
Service Employees Association, Inc., Local 1000, AFSCME, AFL-CIO, for the Town of Queensbury and
said Collective Bargaining Unit has agreed to the Handbook,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adopts the Employee
Handbook presented at this meeting and hereby further authorizes the Town Supervisor to take such steps
as may be necessary to fully implement the provisions of the Handbook.
Duly adopted this 15th day of April, 1996 by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Discussion held: Supervisor Champagne-This employee handbook has been underway for just a little over
fourteen years, this was a goal that I had in mind when I first took office along with the Board that was here
a couple changes since then, we have been at it now for two years and three months and finally we have
with very few exceptions 100% of buy in that's CSEA, Department Heads we think we have got something
here that we can take real pride in.(vote taken)
RESOLUTION TO CONDUCT MARCH OF DIMES WALK AMERICA WALK-A-THON
RESOLUTION NO. 185.96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHEREAS, the March of Dimes Birth Defects Foundation has requested permission to conduct
their Walk America Walk-A-Thon as follows:
SPONSOR:
EVENT:
DATE:
PLACE:
March of Dimes Birth Defects Foundation
WALK AMERICA WALK-A-THON
Sunday, April 28, 1996
Beginning and ending at Adirondack
Community College
(Letter and map regarding location
of run attached);
and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby acknowledges receipt of proof of
insurance from the March of Dimes Birth Defects Foundation naming the Town as an additional insured for
the Walk America Walk-A-Thon in the Town of Queensbury,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes the March of
Dimes Birth Defects Foundation to conduct the Walk America Walk-A-Thon as described above, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that conducting this Walk-A-Thon shall also be subject to the approval of the
Warren County Superintendent of Public Works, Fred Austin.
Duly adopted this 15th day of April, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mr. Champagne
NOES None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ADIRONDACK NAUTILUS, LTD.
TO HOST TWO (2) 5K RACES
RESOLUTION NO. 186.96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, Adirondack Nautilus, Ltd., has requested permission to conduct two (2) 5K races
(runs/walks) as follows:
SPONSOR:
Adirondack Nautilus, Ltd.
EVENT:
5K RACE (RUN/WALK)
DATE:
Saturday, May 18, 1996,9:00 a.m. and
Saturday, August 10, 1996,9:00 a.m.
PLACE: Beginning at Queensbury Racquet Club/ Adirondack Nautilus
on Glenwood Avenue, north on Bay Road to Adirondack Community College and returning to Adirondack
Nautilus. The run will be conducted on the east side of Bay Road and will return on the west side of Bay to
Glenwood Avenue. (Letter regarding location of run attached);
and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby acknowledges receipt of proof of
insurance from the Adirondack Nautilus, Ltd., naming the Town as an additional insured party, to hold
their two (2) 5K races (runs/walks) in the Town of Queensbury,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes Adirondack
Nautilus, Ltd., to conduct these races as described above, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that conducting these races shall also be subject to the approval of the Warren
County Superintendent of Public Works, Fred Austin.
Duly adopted this 15th day of April, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr. Champagne
NOES None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CANOPY ON TOWN COURTHOUSE LAWN
RESOLUTION NO.: 187.96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, the Adirondack Nautilus, Ltd., has requested permission to place a canopy on the
grounds of the Town of Queensbury Courthouse Lawn on Glenwood Avenue on May 17, 1996 for their
Annual5K Race scheduled for Saturday, May 18, 1996, and
WHEREAS, Adirondack Nautilus, Ltd., has provided a Certificate of Liability Insurance naming
the Town as an additional insured party,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes the Adirondack
Nautilus, Ltd., to place a canopy on the Town of Queensbury Courthouse Lawn on Glenwood Avenue from
May 17 through May 18, 1996 in accordance with the attached memo from Chuck Rice to Fred Champagne
dated March 14, 1996.
Duly adopted this 15th day of April, 1996 by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Champagne
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF
GLENS FALLS, THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY, AND
BERKSHIRE-QUEENSBURY, L.L. C.
RESOLUTION NO.: 188.96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHEREAS, Berkshire-Queensbury, L.L.C., is proposing to construct a CVS Pharmacy, with an
attached building for a chiropractor's office and lease space, on certain real property located at 5 Main
Street, Queensbury, Tax Map No.: 130-3-18, and
WHEREAS, Berkshire-Queensbury, L.L.C., has requested the approval of the Water and Sewer
Board of the City of Glens Falls to hook -up and transmit waste water to the sewage facilities owned and
maintained by the City of Glens Falls, and the Water and Sewer Board of the City of Glens Falls has
conditioned its approval of said hook-up and transmission of waste water upon the approval of the Town of
Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, Berkshire-Queensbury, L.L.C., has therefore requested approval from the Town of
Queensbury to discharge sewage from the proposed development to the sanitary sewer system owned and
maintained by the City of Glens Falls, and
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury, concerned about the impact and precedence of the private
sewer facility and regulation thereof, is willing to give its approval to the said hook-up and transmission of
waste water under conditions designated in a proposed agreement presented at this meeting, and Berkshire-
Queensbury, L.L.C., has indicated its willingness to execute said agreement and agree to certain conditions,
including, among other things, that it will hook-up to a sewer district in the event that the Town of
Queensbury establishes a sewer district which includes the property designated as tax map no. 130-3-18
owned by Berkshire-Queensbury, L.L.e., and agrees not to allow any other person, partnership,
association, corporation, or other entity to hook-up to said sewerage facility constructed by Berkshire-
Queensbury, L.L.C.,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby approves of the proposed
agreement between the Board of Water and Sewer Commissioners of the City of Glens Falls, the Town of
Queensbury, and Berkshire-Queensbury, L.L.C., presented at this meeting, and authorizes and directs the
Town Supervisor of the Town of Queensbury to execute said agreement in form acceptable to Town
Counsel on behalf of the Town of Queensbury and take such other and further steps as may be necessary to
finalize the agreement between all the parties and take such action as may be required or necessary to
accomplish the purposes of this agreement, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that in accordance with the said agreement, the Town of Queensbury hereby
approves of the hook-up of Berkshire-Queensbury, L.L.C., to the sewage facilities of the City of Glens
Falls and approves of the transmission of waste water by Berkshire-Queensbury, L.L.C., to the sewerage
facilities of the City of Glens Falls, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Board of Water and Sewer Commissioners of the City of Glens Falls shall
bill Berkshire-Queensbury, L.L.C., directly for sanitary sewer service at a rate which is the standard rate for
outside of the City of Glens Falls, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that it is understood and agreed that the CVS Pharmacy's sewer system is a private
system and that the burden and cost of maintaining, repairing, and preserving the private system from the
CVS Pharmacy to the Glens Falls sewer system shall be borne by Berkshire-Queensbury, L.L.C., and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that it is mutually agreed by the Town, City, and Berkshire-Queensbury, L.L.C., that
this sewer agreement is exclusively for the benefit of Berkshire-Queensbury, L.L.e., and cannot be
assigned or transferred to any other entity without the prior written consent of both the Town and the City,
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that it is mutually agreed by the Town, City, and Berkshire-Queensbury, L.L.C., that
the Board of Water and Sewer Commissioners of the City of Glens Falls has the authority to inspect the
records and sewage facilities of Berkshire-Queensbury, L.L.C., to insure compliance and that no costs
connected with such inspection and the enforcement of the terms of the sewer agreement shall be borne by
the Town of Queensbury, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor's Office is hereby authorized and directed to forward a
copy of this resolution to the Water and Sewer Board of the City of Glens Falls and to forward a copy of
the agreement and resolution to Berkshire-Queensbury, L.L.C.
Duly adopted this 15th day of April, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mr. Champagne
NOES None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TOWN CLERK TO SUBMIT PLANNED UNIT
DEVELOPMENT (PUD) REQUEST FOR MICHAEL l V ASILIOU, INC.
(FOX FARM) TO TOWN OF QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD
RESOLUTION NO. 189.96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHEREAS, certain property lying and existing within the Town of Queensbury and bearing Tax
Map identification numbers 73-1-23, 73-1-22.1, 73-1-22.3, 73-1-22.4, 73-1-22.5, 73-1-22.6, 73-1-22.7 and
a portion of73-1-21 is located in the vicinity of Aviation Road and the Queensbury Union Free School and
is currently zoned RR-3A (Rural Residential- 3 Acres), and
WHEREAS, Michael l Vasiliou, Inc., hereinafter referred to as the "Developer" has requested
that the Town of Queensbury change or modify the zoning to allow the development of a multi-faceted
project, including enactment and approval of a Planned Unit Development (PUD) for the project, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury feels that it would be appropriate to
consider modification of the zone in the area to allow the project, provided that the same is zoned and in a
configuration to be deemed appropriate by the Town Board and developed as a Planned Unit Development,
in accordance with the provisions of the Town of Queensbury, Zoning Ordinance,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby refers the PUD proposal as
identified above to the Planning Board for input and comments from that Board, and directs the Executive
Director of the Office of Community Development to submit a copy of this resolution and all of the
appropriate PUD application materials to the Planning Board for its review.
Duly adopted this 15th day of April, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mr. Champagne
NOES None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SUPERVISOR TO SIGN
AGREEMENT FOR SALE OR CONVEYANCE OF SCRAP METAL
BETWEEN TOWN OF QUEENSBURY AND
NORTHERN CAR CRUSHERS
RESOLUTION NO. 190.96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, the Director of Purchasing for the Town of Queensbury, Warren County, New York,
duly advertised for the sale of scrap metal located at the Town of Queensbury Transfer Station located
adjacent to Ridge Road, as more specifically identified in bid documents previously submitted and in
possession of the Town Clerk of the Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, Northern Car Crushers has submitted the highest and only bid for the purchase of the
Town's scrap metal (a copy of their bid being presented to this meeting), and
WHEREAS, James T. Coughlin, Solid Waste Facility Operator, has recommended that the bid be
awarded to the aforesaid bidder,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby awards the bid for the sale
of scrap metal to Northern Car Crushers, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor is hereby authorized and directed to execute the
Agreement for Sale or Conveyance of Scrap Metal between the Town of Queensbury and Northern Car
Crushers on behalf of the Town of Queensbury and accompanying contractual documents in form
acceptable to Town Counsel, and to place the seal of the Town of Queensbury on said document, and that
the funds received for the sale of scrap metal be deposited into the Landfill Operations Account.
Duly adopted this 15th day of April, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mr. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Champagne
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING PERMIT FOR FIREWORKS DISPLAY
RESOLUTION NO.: 191.96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, Alonzo Fireworks Display, Inc., on behalf of Cystic Fibrosis, has requested
permission to conduct a fireworks display as follows:
SPONSOR: Cystic Fibrosis
PLACE: Hiland Park
DATE: May 16, 1996
TIME: 9:00 P.M. (approx.)
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Clerk, in accordance with the Penal Law of the State of New York,
~405, is hereby authorized to issue a permit subject to the following conditions:
A An application for permit be filed which sets forth:
1. The name of the body sponsoring the display and the names of the persons actually to be in
charge of the firing of the display.
2. The date and time of day at which the display is to be held.
3. The exact location planned for the display.
4. The age, experience and physical characteristics of the persons who are to do the actual
discharging of the fireworks.
5. The number and kind of fireworks to be discharged.
6. The manner and place of storage of such fireworks prior to the display.
7. A diagram of the grounds on which the display is to be held showing the point at which the
fireworks are to be discharged, the location of all buildings, highways, and other lines of communication,
the lines behind which the audience will be restrained and the location of all nearby trees, telegraph or
telephone lines or other overhead obstructions.
B. Proof of insurance be received which demonstrates insurance coverage through an insurance
company licensed in the State of New York, and that the Town of Queensbury is named as an additional
insured and that the insurance coverage contain a hold harmless clause which shall protect the Town of
Queensbury;
C. Inspections and approval must be made by the Queensbury Fire Marshal and the Chief of West
Glens Falls Volunteer Fire Co., Inc.,
D. Cleanup of the area must be completed by 10:00 a.m., the following day, and all debris must
be cleaned up including all unexploded shells, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the permit or letter of authorization by the Town Clerk of the Town of
Queensbury shall, pursuant to the Penal Law of the State of New York, ~405, provide:
the actual point at which the fireworks are to be fired shall be at least two hundred feet from the
nearest permanent building, public highway or railroad or other means of travel and at least fifty feet from
the nearest above ground telephone or telegraph line, tree or other overhead obstruction, that the audience
at such display shall be restrained behind lines at least one hundred and fifty feet from the point at which
the fireworks are discharged and only persons in active charge of the display shall be allowed inside these
lines, that all fireworks that fire a projectile shall be so set up that the projectile will go into the air as
nearby (nearly) as possible in a vertical direction, unless such fireworks are to be fired from the shore of a
lake or other large body of water, when they may be directed in such manner that the falling residue from
the deflagration will fall into such lake or body of water, that any fireworks that remain unfired after the
display is concluded shall be immediately disposed of in a way safe for the particular type of fireworks
remaining, that no fireworks display shall be held during any wind storm in which the wind reaches a
velocity of more than thirty miles per hour, that all the persons in actual charge of firing the fireworks shall
be over the age of eighteen years, competent and physically fit for the task, that there shall be at least two
such operators constantly on duty during the discharge and that at least two soda-acid or other approved
type fire extinguisher of at least two and one-half gallons capacity each shall be kept at as widely separated
points as possible within the actual area of the display.
Duly adopted this 15th day of April, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Champagne
NOES None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION TO AMEND 1996 BUDGET
RESOLUTION NO.: 192.96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, certain departments have requested transfers of funds for the 1996 Budget, and
WHEREAS, said requests have been approved by the Chief Fiscal Officer,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the funds be transferred as follows, for the
1996 budget:
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE:
FROM:
TO:
$ AMOUNT:
01-1420-1790
(Town Attorney)
01-1420-4130
(Legal Services)
25,000.
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the 1996 Town Budget is hereby amended accordingly.
Duly adopted this 4th day of March, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mr. Champagne
NOES None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION REGARDING LIGHTING REQUEST FROM BA YBRIDGE HOMEOWNERS
RESOLUTION NO. 193.96
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury has previously established the Queensbury Lighting
District, and
WHEREAS, the Baybridge Townhouse Development is located in such District, and
WHEREAS, certain residents of the Baybridge Development have requested by petition that the
Town Board consider installation of certain street lighting in the Baybridge Development, and
WHEREAS, New York State Town Law ~ 198(6) authorizes the Town Board to consider a
petition request for installation of street lighting in a lighting district, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board has previously adopted a Lighting District Policy which also
governs such request, and
WHEREAS, pursuant to Town Law ~ 198(6) the Town Board is required to conduct a public
hearing to consider this request with notice of such hearing to be published not less than 10 nor more than
20 days prior to the date of hearing, and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was duly held on the 18th day of March, 1996,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, pursuant to Town Law ~ 198(6)
hereby determines that
1. the petition for street lighting in the Baybridge Development is legally sufficient;
2. it is in the public interest to grant the relief sought in said petition;
3. the requested street lighting equipment shall be installed along the streets, highways or
portions thereof described in the petition;
4. the cost of said necessary street lighting equipment may be financed by the issuance of
obligations of the Town and shall be paid for by the residents of the Baybridge Development and the Town
Board shall annually apportion and assess upon the several lots and parcels of land within the district in
proportion to the amount of benefit which the improvement shall confer upon the same and in the manner
provided for in ~202-a of the Town Law for the assessment of the cost of maintenance in a sewer district,
an amount sufficient to pay the principal of and interest on any such obligations as the same shall become
due and payable. The cost of maintenance of such improvement shall be a charge upon the district.
Duly adopted this 15th day of April, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mr. Champagne
NOES None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION APPOINTING CONFIDENTIAL ADMINISTRATIVE
SECRETARY IN THE TOWN HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT
RESOLUTION NO.: 194.96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury previously established the position of
Confidential Administrative Secretary in the Highway Department, and Mrs. Jean Purner recently retired
from said position, and
WHEREAS, the Town Highway Superintendent has recommended that Rebecca Bernard be
appointed to this position,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby appoints Ms. Rebecca
Bernard to the position of Confidential Administrative Secretary effective April 29, 1996, at the annual
salary of $22,566., and remaining in effect for the 1996 calendar year, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the hourly wages paid to Ms. Bernard shall be from the appropriate Town of
Queensbury Payroll Account.
Duly adopted this 15th day of April, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr. Champagne
NOES None
ABSENT: None
TOWN BOARD MATTERS
Councilman Turner-spoke to the Board regarding a drainage problem on Warren Street, three options are
before the committee...
Councilman Monahan-Planning Committee Meeting Wednesday morning at 9:00 a.m.
Councilman Goedert- discussed the elimination of trailers that go parallel to Pitcher Road ... also spoke
about making buffer area bigger...
ATTORNEY MATTERS
Town Counsel Mark Schachner-Recommended to the Town Board regarding Wunderlich Contract that is
dealing with the water pipe under the Northway near Exit 20, there has been a lean filed against that
project, recommend that the Town Board withhold payment of the current bill that we have received from
Wunderlich and also start withholding additional sums because the job is late and we have incurred
additional engineering and inspection expenses as a result of the manner in which the job is being
performed.
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CORRESPONDENCE
RESOLUTION NO. 195.96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby authorizes the Town Attorney to send correspondence
to Wunderlich that we will not be paying him.
Duly adopted this 15th day of April, 1996 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
OPEN FORUM
Mr. Manarti-with Browns Welcome Inn-I live on the comer of Sweet and Route 9...Questioned why the
light was canceled on Sweet and Route 9...spoke to the Board about the dangerous situation that exists at
this location.
Supervisor Champagne-The light that is there now, I guess there was a belief that, that light that is there
now would slow down traffic and it would stop traffic and allow people to get out...noted moving Weeks
Road got to be a real problem for us in terms of the property we needed...
Councilman Monahan-Spoke about the people who live in Robert Gardens North and South and
Canterbury Woods their problem is not south, nothing stops the traffic coming down from the North hard to
get in and out of that road, they are very disappointed.
Supervisor Champagne-Don't lose this completely because it could happen, we wrote it off this year.
County Supervisor Nick Caimano- I just want to remind you of something, I think we set a dangerous
precedent tonight when I sat on this Board along with Betty and Carol and you and we had Hudson Pointe
come along and we said to those folks those commercial folks we are going to put hands in the fire because
we are going to protect the river. Now that got lost tonight, and my concern for all of us elected officials
and certainly you as a Town Board is that we have sent a message to the commercial people and their
lawyers and engineers that, get the tapes of this meeting and come before the Town Board and say wait a
minute you did not do it for you but you are going to do it for me and I know Mark that by law you and the
Town Board can usurp or look away from your own laws by law but what you can do by law and what you
ought to do are sometimes two different things and my concern is that you have done that tonight and I do
not know how to go back and undo that and I do not know if you see it the way I see it. I was concerned
that we hold the commercial people to the fire we say on the one hand we want to build commercial here
and then we hold them to the fire and I thought what we did on Hudson Pointe was the right thing at that
time, the draft EIS was the right thing we wanted to protect the river and we wanted this project to go, but
now tonight we did not do that we kind of excused ourselves. I just ask you to think about that and see
where it goes from here.
Ms. Barbara Bennett-What is LLC under 3.1 O?
Supervisor Champagne-Limited Liability Corporation.
Mr. John Salvadore-Regarding Route 9 questioned if that was not under study by Transportation Council
Study?
Executive Director Martin-That is under study right now, there is a meeting tomorrow morning at 9:30 a.m.
Supervisor Champagne-Looking to be redone in 97.
Mr. Salvadore-Was the Weeks Road re-alignment part of this solution?
Supervisor Champagne-It was pulled off..at this stage.
Mr. Salvadore-Regarding resolutions to do with foothill frolic, walk-a thon and two 5 K races why is it
necessary for you folks to authorize these activities?
Supervisor Champagne-Because they are using Town Roads for the activity...
Mr. Salvadore-Questioned the cost to the taxpayer?
Supervisor Champagne-You will see sheriffs dept.
Mr. Salvadore-Spoke about the costs related to the Balloon Festival.. Subject: Hudson Park spoke about
increase use of the river causing more patrolling for the Sheriffs dept. ..subject of sanitary facilities at the
park, no porta-jons in North Queensbury unless you have a building permit.....questioned a pavilion being
built, slab on grade and colunm and roof top that is not going to cut it, you cannot exempt yourself from the
N.Y. State building code...questioned how we handle over-runs from the Capital Reserve Recreation
Fund...
Councilman Monahan-If that goes to permissive referendum and they authorize the expenditure of that sum
it is my understanding that no more can be taken out of that then the 163,225....over runs would come from
general funds or recreation budget.
Mr. Salvadore-Questioned if the Critical Environmental Zone is defined someplace?
Councilman Monahan-Unfortunately not very well in our ordinance...
Mr. Salvadore-Is it easy for a person like myself to differentiate between a zone that is non-critically
environmental, are there distinguishing features?
Councilman Monahan-Noted the critical areas are designated on the zoning maps down
stairs...restrictions:how close you can build to a body of water, how close a parking lot can go those type of
things. ..
Executive Director Martin-The indication is to heighten the level of review...
Mr. Salvadore-RE: easements under Town Road, have not heard anything?
Town Counsel Schachner-Noted he has the requests ...
Mr. Salvadore-Vessel Regulation Zone-noted there are responsibilities that go with this...Mr. Rider is
coming Thursday to put in buoys.. . noted he will be present, questioned the placement area of the buoys...
Mr. Champagne-Noted he had spoken to several people in Albany about this...they are aware of our local
laws...
Mr. Pliney Tucker-Queensbury-The flags look beautiful at the Water Treatment Plant...Questioned the
lights ...
Councilman Tucker-They are working on them.
Mr. Tucker-All the action that was taken on the park on the river will that have any bearing on the grant
from the State?
Supervisor Champagne-We have a letter from Haggaman from the Parks and Recreation, that says as of
April 24 or 26th we have to have a letter to that office spelling out what we are going to do and when we
are going to do it and how we are going to do it, a time line, however because of the possible permissive
referendum and other issues that have come to the fore-front more recently he has indicated to us that he
may keep the door ajar for the 1997 work. We would like to get done what we can in '96 if we cannot
complete it then we can still spend funds and get re-imbursed I believe once he approves our letter and we
indicate to him our program of work and our time line that goes with it.
Mr. Tucker-Re: petition on Park-most of the people I talked to the only information that they had was, that
this was going to be a cost of the taxpayers and cause their taxes to go up, there wasn't any information that
if the Town does not put a park in there that the County will. When we had a boat launch before it was a
second landfill there was garbage all over the place. At the present time Betty was talking about restricted
areas, wetlands down there, at the present time there are three truck loads of garbage dumped in the
wetlands.
Councilman Monahan-Why isn't our park director making sure that gets out of there before it does its
contamination?
Councilman Goedert - I did not think it would be under his jurisdiction as of yet.
Mr. Tucker-Spoke about the debris, carpet cutting ...at the end of Big Bay Road a guy from Vermont I got
three number on the license plate dumped doors, plywood ... I have been looking for him for two weeks, I
want to make sure I have the right license number. Questioned by the neighbors on this dead end road don't
complain?
Councilman Pulver-I called and I talked to Ron and Nick and Lynn Potenza and got all the information
about the Park down there and at one time there was a boat launch there, low grade, the County talked
about re-establishing that boat launch, that was it, that was all the County ever talked about. The County
currently has no intention of developing that as a park, they have no money to develop that as a park and if
they ever did the only talk that has ever been on the table is re-establishing that boat launch, the Board of
Supervisor's would have to approve that. I asked the question, if the Town of Queensbury did not do
something down there what would the Board of Supervisor's do and they said they may establish a boat
launch however they certainly would consider the wishes of the residents of the Town of Queensbury when
they established anything down there. So, saying that the County is going to put something down there is
kind of a rumor that has gotten way out of hand and at this point has not meaning or nor value whatsoever.
Mr. Tucker-I spoke to Ron, the County plans were to replace the boat launch put in picnic tables...
Councilman Pulver-It was to re-establish the Boat launch a couple of picnic tables... or something but still
is not a park with a ball field and basketball etc.
Mr. Tucker-Suggested that a gate with a lock be placed at the entrance, help stop dumping...
Councilman Goedert-It amazes me that we have $390,000 sitting in a fund for parks and recreation and we
have all these jobs to be done to our park and we tie our own hands because we cannot use the money.
Councilman Monahan-We can use the money but no-body has come up with a plan for capital
improvements in these parks.
Executive Director Martin- I have heard from the developers who have put a lot of money into these funds,
they say what has happened, where is it going to?
Councilman Pulver-I have been working with the Recreation Commission and they have been working to
find ways to improve the parks hopefully we are coming forward with a plan soon, right now they are
working on improving the playground facilities, updating the equipment...we are getting a soccer field at
J enkinsville. ..
Mr. Tucker-Just a little history, 60 % of the recreation money in that fund came from Ward IV, we have a
$7,500 park under dangerous, high voltage and this is all Ward IV has gotten out of this. This Board has an
opportunity to put a park on a water way. We have a piece ofland on Lake George and when I was on the
Board and looked at what it would cost to access the lake and it was in the neighborhood of a million
bucks.
Councilman Goedert -We are looking into a third recreation site for the IV WARD used to be camp
Jadamada that will be accessed offfrom Division Road.
Mr. Tucker-Noted he had spoken to the Surveyor and the City of Glens Falls owns a strip of land in the
middle of that...
Supervisor Champagne-We will research that out.
Mr. Tucker-Questions in the West Glens Falls Water District, the rates that were established was the buy in
to the water plant included?
Supervisor Champagne-Suggested that Mr. Tucker talk to Mr. Flaherty.
Mr. Tucker-Tom Flaherty and I do not get along. My daughter bought a chunk of land out on Big Boom
Road, her property borders right on the water district. The comer of her property goes right up against the
water district. I asked the water dept. how much to run the water line 700 feet you know what I was told?
Fifteen thousand dollars and then it got back to me where he said hell would freeze over before he would
run anything down there for me. This is the kind of relationship I have with Mr. Flaherty.
Councilman Monahan-Requested that Councilman Pulver look
into that...asked if Mr. Tucker would like that water district boundary enlarged to include your daughter's
property?
Mr. Tucker-No.
RESOLUTION ADJOURNING MEETING
RESOLUTION NO. 196.96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Fred Champagne
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns its meeting.
Duly adopted this 15th day of April, 1996 by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Respectfully submitted,
Miss Darleen Dougher
Town Clerk-Queensbury