1996-08-05
REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING
AUGUST 5, 1996
7:00 P.M.
MTG#3l
RES#3l8-340
B.H. 18-19
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT
SUPERVISOR FRED CHAMPAGNE
COUNCILMAN BETTY MONAHAN
COUNCILMAN THEODORE TURNER
COUNCILMAN CONNIE GOEDERT
COUNCILMAN CAROL PULVER
TOWN COUNSEL
MARK SCHACHNER
TOWN OFFICIALS
JIM MARTIN, DAVE HATIN, MIKE SHAW, WILLIAM BURNS, KIM HEUNEMANN
PUBLIC HEARINGS
HUDSON POINTE-THE DESIGNATION OF CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNED BY HUDSON POINTE,
INC. FROM SR-1A TO ALLOW EXTENSION OF HUDSON POINTE PUD
OPENED 7:01 P.M.
NOTICE SHOWN
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I'll open the public hearing.
ATTORNEY JOHN LAPPER-Alan Oppenheim is not here we expect him. He was in a meeting in Albany
and probably will be on his way. But, we think that things have now gotten pretty straight forward on
behalf of this and we're here for the public hearing. The Planning Board approved it at its last meeting
looking at this and we hope that the Town Board will as well.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Is there anyone here to speak for or against the rezoning of the Hudson
Pointe? One lot is that how I understand it? Jim do you want to explain that to us a little more thoroughly
so that we all have a better understanding.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-As the board may recall this was before us previously as a
rezoning request. It involved a one acre lot that has frontage on Corinth Road and is adjoining what is
probably the south westerly part of the Hudson Pointe PUD. There was an extension of that project that
had additional frontage on Corinth Road with what turned out to be neighborhood commercial type uses
associated with it. This is a one acre lot that was in front of that property along Corinth Road. The plan
that you see before you incorporates many of the things that you discussed at the time it was up for
rezoning, meaning some berming and planting requirements along the property as it adjoins, I guess would
be the north easterly side of the property. There was some discussion the last time we talked about this
about widening the buffer areas as a compromise position. The next thing discussed was providing berming
along that side with additional planting to attempt to mitigate any potential impact from parking of cars or
whatever use occurs on that site. The reason for the change from a rezoning was it was thought in the final
analysis before we parted last time that it was better served as a modification to the PUD as it was really an
extension of the uses associated with project in that area meaning the neighborhood commercial types uses.
The things allowed for there were convenience store, banking, small retail, like a hardware store, something
like that meant to address any neighborhood needs in that area for those types of things. I think there was a
limit on the building size of seventy five hundred square feet. This is coming back as a change to the PUD.
Something you should consider tonight is this a significant enough modification to go back in and take up
any potential environmental impacts associated with it or do you see this as a minor modification that
would not warrant that.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Okay so we're rezoning that parcel from SR-1A to....
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-PUD.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Anyone here to speak against this proposal?
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT -Fred, I have a question. Jim the people that have been coming to the
workshops in reference to this....
COUNCILMAN PULVER-Glen Jones....
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-The Browns, have they been....
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Five hundred foot notice was sent out for this public hearing
tonight.
ALAN OPPENHEIM-I guess, I'll introduce myself. I'm Alan Oppenheim, ACO Property Advisors
representing the property owner of Hudson Pointe, Inc. We feel based upon the workshop sessions and
some of the discussions specific to landscaping along the north and the fifty foot buffer that they were
indeed happy with that proposal.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-No one here to speak against it. Any other questions from the board.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-Permitted uses. Convenience store with gasoline pumps. Do we substitute that
and take out automobile sales and repair.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I don't think that is even in neighborhood commercial.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I don't believe automobile sales and repair is permitted there
anyway.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-No it's not but, gasoline pumps where they permitted?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Yes.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Jim is the list of permitted sensible uses that are listed here now the same
ones that we listed when we did the original commercial area for the PUD?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Yes.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Any other questions?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I think Ted and I are both wondering if that drawing we're looking at there
and I can't see it well enough from here is the same, we had one I think was in.....Jim.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-When you called Betty, I looked through the files and we had
handed it back there it is that's why we didn't have it.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Okay. This shows no entrance off Corinth Road.
ATTORNEY LAPPER-No additional entrance.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-So actually you are saying it shows an entrance.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-No additional entrance.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I'm saying the lot itself is not going to have an entrance.
MR. OPPENHEIM-That's correct no separate entrance.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I was concerned about one thing with the wording in here. I don't know
why it sounded a little bit confusing like that.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-That's addressed Betty in minimum frontage on a public road
the last sentence.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Okay. Jim, I think we need to reference this.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-It is left blank. The reference to a plan because I didn't know if
you were going to change it and there might be a revision date forthcoming or if the date of the current plan
is sufficient I didn't know how that was going to shake out.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I don't know if the other board members have seen this. Connie and Carol
have you seen this in color it's a little easier in color?
(Presented map of project to Councilman Pulver and Councilman Goedert)
COUNCILMAN TURNER-Jim one thing in the resolution here in the first whereas, where it starts it's a run
on paragraph. Planned Unit Development which is generally a neighborhood commercial zone.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-It's not a true neighborhood commercial zone. It is not as
defined in our Zoning Ordinance some of the uses are missing.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I would say we ought to put not as generally which is a restricted
neighborhood commercial zone.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Limited is a word we've been using.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Okay, limited take generally right out.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-I didn't like the sound of that.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-It doesn't add anything to the sentence. Is everyone happy with the map?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Are you in the first whereas clause Betty?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Yes. It is a limited neighborhood commercial zone.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I think what is also causing some problem there, I don't think
you would capitalize an neighborhood commercial zone because it is not a officially adopted zone just to be
really technical about it.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Any other questions, concerns?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Is everybody happy with that map because we need to put the date in.
MR. OPPENHEIM-It was last revised 2/7/96.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-2/7/96, revised.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-The other date that needs to be supplied is when you would like
the plantings installed by. We are coming up on a good time to plant now through basically the end of
September is a pretty good time to plant.
JIM MILLER-I would suggest doing this in the Spring because they are all pines trees and evergreens.
This is an area where there is not going to be any maintenance so they are not proposing any construction
to begin immediately. I think it would be safer to do the planting next Spring, we'll have a better survival
rate.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Is that what we want to put in there?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-We ought to put a month in or a date?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-May 30th, 1997?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-How does that sound to you?
ATTORNEY LAPPER-We want the board to understand that we're happy to go ahead and put those in
even though we don't have anything planned in terms of construction just for the neighbor.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-That was part of the discussion before.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-That was the idea to get that growing.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-We do have a short form to take up later on in your resolutions
and then actually enacting the changes made.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-We should be doing the enacting of the non-significance first.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I don't know if you want to do it now or wait until your
resolutions.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Do it right now we're right in the middle of it. I think right while we're in it
it's better to do it than come back to it.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Any other questions?
MAYNARD SPRINGER, CORINTH ROAD-I'm just wondering about the impact of the traffic. Has there
been a study of any kind where they've done a traffic impact on this?
MR. OPPENHEIM-The answer to that is there has not been a, I mean there were many traffic studies done
for the original Hudson Pointe Residential Project. But, based upon the incremental addition of this one
acre lot to the existing neighborhood commercial for which traffic studies were done in the identified user,
we don't see it as a designation type location we see it as convenience location picking up a lot of cars that
are already passing by. The determination was that the added traffic is going to be totally very
insignificant.
MR. SPRINGER-There have been two bad accidents directly in front of my house in the last month and a
half. I talked to a patrolman there and he said he would mention it to the Sheriffs Department, but I haven't
seen any big difference on speed limits or traffic or anything. The speeding still continues if this is just
going to add to this problem that we already have I wouldn't be to happy about it. I like to see something
either a speed limit or something cut down a little bit.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-That's already been done and they've turned it down Maynard. We asked for a
reduction in speed they turned us down.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-The State studied it and reported back that it wasn't critical.
MR. SPRINGER-There have been two bad accidents it's just a miracle that it wasn't a lot worse in the last
month and a half.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-There might be a possibility they would re-look at that if the accidents
are.......
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Okay, thank you. Any other questions, concerns? I'll close the public
hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED 7:15 P.M.
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM PART II
A, Does action exceed any type I threshold in 6 NYCRR, Part 617.l2?
TOWN BOARD-No.
B, Will action receive coordinated review as provided for unlisted actions in 6 NYCRR, Part 6l7.6?
TOWN BOARD-No.
C, Could action result in any adverse effects associated with the following:
Cl, Existing air quality, surface or groundwater quality or quantity, noise levels, existing traffic
patterns, solid waste production or disposal, potential for erosion, drainage or flooding problems?
TOWN BOARD-No.
C2, aesthetic, agriculture, archaeological, historic, or other natural or cultural resources; or
community or neighborhood character?
TOWN BOARD-No.
C3, Vegetation or fauna, fish, shellfish or wildlife species, significant habitats, or threatened or
endangered species?
TOWN BOARD-No.
C4, A community's existing plans or goals as officially adopted, or a change in use of intensity of
use of land or other natural resources?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-It would be an intensity, I suppose. Single family before. But, on the other
hand it is an extension of a commercial zone that is right beside it and it is a limited commercial zone, also.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-A sununary would be minor due to the limited commercial
zomng.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-It is an extension of a limited commercial zone and that will be a limited
commercial extension.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-That's correct, do you have that then.
C5, Growth, subsequent development, or related activities
proposed action?
likely to be induced by the
TOWN BOARD-No.
C6, Long term, short term, cumulative, or other effects not identified in C l-C5?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I think it would be a positive affect because it would allow the people in the
area there to pick up the type of services that are being offered without traveling great distances.
C7, Other impacts?
TOWN BOARD-None.
D, Will the proposed project have an impact on the environmental characteristics that cause the
establishment of a CEA?
TOWN BOARD-No.
E, Is there, or is there likely to be, controversy related to potential adverse environmental impacts?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Okay, if you will review there is a statement on the reasons for
supporting the determination. See if there is anything that causes.....
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-It's okay.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Is everybody all set with that?
TOWN BOARD-All set.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Okay, we're ready to vote.
RESOLUTION ADOPTING DETERMINATION OF NON-SIGNIFICANCE OF
AMENDMENT TO ZONING ORDINANCE TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATION OF
CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNED BY HUDSON POINTE, INC. FROM SR-1A
TO ALLOW THE EXTENSION OF THE HUDSON POINTE PUD
RESOLUTION NO.: 318,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is considering the application for a
change of zone by Alan Oppenheim, ACO Property Advisors, Inc./Hudson Pointe, Inc., requesting that a
certain parcel of property bearing Tax Map Number 148-1-2.1 located in the vicinity of 777 Corinth Road
in the Town of Queensbury be rezoned from the current zoning of SR-1A (Suburban Residential- 1 Acre),
to allow the extension of the Hudson Pointe Planned Unit Development (PUD) zoning district in such a
manner that the above-referenced parcel would be included in the PUD, subject to certain conditions, and
WHEREAS, the proposed action has been determined to be an unlisted action pursuant to the
Rules and Regulations of the State Environmental Quality Review Act,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board after considering the action proposed herein, the limiting
conditions proposed as part of the rezoning, reviewing the Environmental Assessment Form, reviewing the
criteria contained in ~6l7. 7, and thoroughly analyzing the said action with respect to potential
environmental concerns, determines that the action will not have a significant effect on the environment,
due to the conditions that have been proposed as part of the rezoning and the fact that the rezoning is
consistent with uses allowed in an immediately adjoining area which was also the subject of a recent
rezoning and accompanying environmental review, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor is hereby authorized and directed to complete and execute
Part II of the said Environmental Assessment Form and to check the box thereon indicating that the
proposed action will not result in any significant adverse impacts, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that pursuant to ~6l7.7 and ~6l7.l2, the Negative Declaration presented at this
meeting is hereby approved and the Executive Director is hereby authorized and directed to file the same,
as may be necessary, in accordance with the provisions of the general regulations of the Department of
Environmental Conservation.
Duly adopted this 5th day of August, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION AMENDING ZONING ORDINANCE TO CHANGE
THE DESIGNATION OF CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNED BY
HUDSON POINTE, INC. (TAX MAP NO. 148-1-2.1)
FROM SR-1A (SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL -1 ACRE)
TO ALLOW THE EXTENSION OF THE HUDSON POINTE PUD
RESOLUTION NO. 319,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHEREAS, Alan Oppenheim, ACO Property Advisors, Inc./Hudson Pointe, Inc., petitioned the
Town Board of the Town of Queensbury for a zoning change of property owned by Hudson Pointe, Inc.,
(Town of Queensbury Tax Map No. 148-1-2.1) located in the vicinity of 777 Corinth Road in the Town of
Queensbury from SR-1A (Suburban Residential- 1 Acre) to a rezoning that is the same as recently
established for adjoining parcel(s) as part of the Hudson Pointe Planned Unit Development and which is a
limited neighborhood commercial zone - 10,000 Square Feet, subject to a number of conditions, and
WHEREAS, on August 15, 1995, the Town of Queensbury Planning Board adopted a resolution to
recommend to the Town Board the rezoning of the subject property, and
WHEREAS, the Warren County Planning Board recommended approval, concurring with local
conditions, of the requested rezoning, and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held on this matter on October 16, 1995 and again on August 5,
1996, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury has made a determination that the
rezoning will have no significant environmental impact, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury has considered the conditions and
circumstances of the areas to be rezoned,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town of Queensbury Zoning Ordinance is hereby amended to re-zone the
property owned by Hudson Pointe, Inc., (Town of Queensbury Tax Map No. 148-1-2.1) from SR-1A
(Suburban Residential - 1 Acre) to allow the extension of the Hudson Pointe Planned Unit Development
(PUD) zoning district thereby authorizing all uses permitted under ~ 179.25 of the Town of Queensbury
Zoning Ordinance in such area, with the following restrictions and/or conditions:
Lot NumberlSize: The lot is limited to its existing size. Subdivision of the lot is prohibited.
Minimum Frontage on Public Road: Forty (40) feet. The commercial lots to be created along
Corinth Road may front on a road over the sixty foot (60') ROW. The road servicing these lots shall be
constructed to the Town standard by the developer of the new commercial lots. Access to the lot shall be
through the road within the sixty-foot (60') right-of-way only.
Minimum Yard Setbacks:
One Acre Lot:
Front
Side
with a ten foot (10') minimum.
Rear
Thirty feet (30')
The sum of the side yards shall equal thirty feet (30') or more
twenty feet (20')
Minimum Permeable Area of Lot (%): Fifty percent (50%)
Maximum Building Height: Forty feet (40')
Permitted Principal Uses:
Convenience store with gasoline pumps and no automobile sales or repair; grocery store;
bank; hardware store; professional office including beauty shop. All of the above uses in designated
commercial areas are allowed upon site plan review and approval by the Planning Board.
Permitted Accessory Uses:
Customary accessory uses and accessory use structures incidental to a permitted principal
use.
Density: One principal building up to 7,500 square foot in size per lot.
Green Space:
The developer(s) shall provide an area equivalent to percent (10%) of the overall gross lot
area or 2,178 square feet, whichever is greater, to planted green space. To the extent that the green space is
not contained in any required buffer areas, the green space shall be located in each front yard of the lot.
Landscaping of this area shall be subject to review by the Town Beautification Committee and Planning
Board Site Plan review and approval.
Buffer Area:
A buffer area consistent with the requirements outlined in ~ 179-72 shall be provided.
The buffer area shall also include plantings and berming to sufficiently screen and obstruct the visual
impacts associated with the permitted uses of the parcel. Planting and berming of the buffer area shall
occur in two phases. The first phase will establish plantings as illustrated on the map dated February 7,
1996 (revised). These plantings are to be installed by May 30th, 1997. Phase Two of the planting and
berming program shall occur with the site plan review process by the Town Planning Board.
Declaration of Covenants and Restrictions:
The execution by Developer of a Covenant of Declarations and Restrictions which
restrict and limit the use of the property as indicated above and which may only be changed or modified by
Town Board approval, thus modifying the existing Zoning Ordinance and Map;
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the zoning map for the Town of Queensbury is hereby amended to provide for
the rezoning of said lands, and the Town Clerk is authorized to arrange with the Town Surveyor to update
the official Town Zoning Map to reflect this change of zone and send a copy of this Resolution to the
Executive Director of Community Development for the Town of Queensbury, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Executive Director is hereby directed to mail or send a copy of this
Resolution Amending the Zoning Ordinance with a letter advising that the Town of Queensbury Zoning
Ordinance has been amended as set forth herein to the applicant, if any, Warren County Planning Board,
The Town of Queensbury Zoning Board of Appeals, the Town of Queensbury Planning Board, the Director
of Building & Codes, and any agency which was an involved agency for SEQRA purposes, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that pursuant to the requirements of Article XIII of the Town of Queensbury Zoning
Ordinance and ~265 of the Town Law, the Town Clerk shall, within five (5) days, direct that a certified
copy of said changes be published in the Glens Falls Post -Star and obtain an Affidavit of Publication, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that this amendment take effect upon filing of the same in the Office of Town Clerk.
Duly adopted this 5th day of August, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
PUBLIC HEARING - LOCATE MOBILE HOME OUTSIDE OF MOBILE HOME PARK - JAMES &
DONNA MATTISON -JAMES MATTISON PRESENT
OPENED
NOTICE SHOWN
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I'll open the public hearing to locate a mobile home outside a mobile home
park James & Donna Mattison.
JAMES MATTISON-I'd like to upgrade myoid trailer with a new one.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Okay. Anyone hear to speak against this proposal? Do you want to give
us the location of this Mr. Mattison.
MR. MATTISON-I live up on Ridge Road by the Harrisena Church. My address is 1649 Ridge.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-I went up and looked at it.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-You did go look at it.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-He has four letters in here of support for his upgrade.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Any other questions from the board?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-You asked if anyone wanted to speak against it. Did you ask if anybody
wanted to speak for it from the audience?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Anyone care to speak for it? We're moving along so nicely here.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I just wanted to add there is another letter of support. I gave it to the Town
Clerk it is not included here it was from Mrs. Norma Stark and it was an approval and support.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Alright, if there are no other comments, I will close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED 7:21 P.M.
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING REVOCABLE PERMIT
TO LOCATE A MOBILE HOME OUTSIDE OF A MOBILE HOME COURT
FOR JAMES AND DONNA MATTISON
RESOLUTION NO.: 320,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury regulates mobile homes outside of mobile home parks
pursuant to ~ 113 -12 of the Code of the Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, James and Donna Mattison have filed an application for a "Mobile Home Outside a
Mobile Home Court" Revocable Permit, in accordance with said ~113-l2 of the Code of the Town of
Queensbury, to locate a mobile home at property situated at 1649 Ridge Road, Queensbury, New York, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury held a public hearing on August 5, 1996
with regard to the aforesaid permit,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes the issuance ofa
revocable permit in accordance with the terms and provisions of ~113-l2 of the Code of the Town of
Queensbury.
Duly adopted this 5th day of August, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
PUBLIC HEARING - PROVIDE STOP INTERSECTION AT THE INTERSECTION OF LOCKHART
MOUNTAIN ROAD AND THE ENTRANCE TO THE TOP OF THE WORLD RESORT - ORDINANCE
NO. 28.
OPENED 7:25 P.M.
NOTICE SHOWN
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Anyone here to speak on behalf of locating a, Dave Hatin?
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING AND CODES, DAVE HATIN-I don't do stop signs.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Does the board have any questions about locating that stop sign? I
understand we located at the end of the road the first time and we're just changing end of the road is that
what we're doing?
COUNCILMAN PULVER-We're moving it.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-We're removing the old one right?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Yes. Okay, so we'll close that public hearing, I guess we're ready to vote
that.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
RESOLUTION TO ADOPT AN AMENDMENT TO ORDINANCE NO. 28
TO PROVIDE A STOP INTERSECTION AT THE INTERSECTION OF
LOCKHART MOUNTAIN ROAD AND THE ENTRANCE TO THE
TOP OF THE WORLD RESORT
RESOLUTION NO. 321, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury deems it appropriate to adopt an
Amendment to Ordinance Number 28 entitled "Ordinance Establishing Through Highway and Stop
Intersections in the Town of Queensbury, County of Warren, State of New York," to provide a stop
intersection at the intersection of Lockhart Mountain Road and the entrance to the Top of the World Resort,
and
WHEREAS, on July 1, 1996, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury set a public hearing for
August 5, 1996 at 7:00 p.m. on the proposed Amendment, and
WHEREAS, the public hearing was held at the specified time and place and all interested parties
were heard on the proposed Amendment to Ordinance No. 28,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the following Amendment be added to the Queensbury Ordinance Number 28:
ORDINANCE NUMBER 28 (Amendment)
Section 1.
Ordinance Number 28 of the Town of Queensbury, establishing through highways and
stop intersections in the Town of Queensbury, County of Warren and State of New York is hereby
amended to add as a stop intersection the intersection of Lockhart Mountain Road and the entrance to the
Top of the World Resort and a stop sign shall be erected at said intersection.
Section 2.
This Amendment shall take effect 10 days after its publication, posting and compliance
with Section l683(a) of the Vehicle and Traffic Law.
Duly adopted this 5th day of August, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert,
Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
HEARING - UNSAFE STRUCTURE - EAST DRIVE- MR. LARRY R. DAVIS, JR.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Dave do you want to walk us through this.
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING & CODES, DAVE HATIN-Ifthe board will recall you set a hearing for
tonight for the property owned by Larry Davis who is in the Navy. I personnally served his sister with the
notice for the hearing tonight, explained the situation to her. Basically, I'm asking the board tonight is to
start the thirty to sixty day time clock advising them that they must either repair or demolish the structure. I
do have pictures of the structure if you want to look at it. I did find it opened today which it was not
before. If you like, I can have the Grounds and Building crew go over and board that doorway up
temporarily until we decide where we're going to go with this.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT -Do you think kids were in there?
MR. HA TIN-It appears so somebody kicked the door in from the hinged side.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-From the inside?
MR. HATIN-Hinged side so it can't be closed and locked.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Does the board have any comments, questions?
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-I've been over there and he is absolutely correct in this findings.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I've seen it, too.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I assume that the pictures you are talking about Dave are the ones that we
saw the last time.
MR. HATIN-You didn't see any pictures of this structures the last time.
COUNCILMAN PUL VER- The last one we saw was the Corinth Road.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Excuse me, then I didn't see it may I see the pictures, please.
MR. HATIN PRESENTED PICTURES TO COUNCILMAN MONAHAN
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-This just starts the sixty day clock right?
TOWN BOARD-Yes.
RESOLUTION REGARDING UNSAFE STRUCTURE - EAST DRIVE-
MR. LARRY R. DAVIS, JR.
RESOLUTION NO. 322, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury has heard a report from the Director of
Building and Codes, Mr. David Hatin, concerning an unsafe structure located on East Drive in the Town of
Queensbury bearing Tax Map No. 93.-3-6, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury has been advised that notice of this
hearing was served pursuant to ~130(16) of the New York State Town Law and Chapter 60 of the Code of
the Town of Queensbury,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, after hearing from Mr. Hatin and
after reviewing the documents submitted in connection with this matter, hereby determines that the
structure is currently unsafe and dangerous and determines that the owner(s) of the structure should
immediately start to repair or demolish and remove the structure and that the repair and/or demolition and
removal shall be completed within sixty days of service of the Notice of this public hearing, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that in the event that there is neglect or refusal to comply with the order of this
Board to repair or demolish and remove the structure located on the property, the Town Board may take
action to have the property demolished and removed and to assess all expenses thereof against the real
property on which it is located and Town Counsel is authorized to commence an action for a Court Order
authorizing the demolition and removal and/or may institute a special proceeding to collect the cost of the
demolition and removal, including legal expenses, if necessary.
Duly adopted this 5th day of August, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION ENTERING QUEENSBURY BOARD OF HEALTH
RESOLUTION NO. 323, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from Regular Session and
moves into the Queensbury Board of Health.
Duly adopted this 5th day of August, 1996, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr.
Champagne
Noes: None
Absent:None
RESOLUTION TO SET PUBLIC HEARING ON APPLICATION FOR VARIANCE FROM
SANIT ARY SEWAGE DISPOSAL ORDINANCE FOR STEPHEN C. MILLER,
APPLICANT FOR PROPERTY OWNERS, HARLEY & RITA DEWEY
RESOLUTION NO.: 18,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is, by operation of Law, the Local
Board of Health for the Town of Queensbury and, as such, is authorized under Chapter 136 of the Town of
Queensbury On-Site Sewage Disposal Ordinance to issue variances from such Ordinance, and
WHEREAS, Mr. Stephen Miller, applicant for property owners Harley and Rita Dewey, has
applied to the Local Board of Health of the Town of Queensbury for a variance from certain standards of
the Town of Queensbury On-Site Sewage Disposal Ordinance set forth in Chapter 136, Appendix A, such
application requesting that there be a 92 feet distance between the seepage pit and a neighbor's well, a 145
feet distance between the seepage pit and another neighbor's well, and a 64 feet distance between the
seepage pit and the owner's well, in lieu of the required 150 feet distance(s),
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Local Board of Health for the Town of Queensbury will hold a public
hearing on August 19, 1996, at 7:00 p.m., at the Queensbury Activities Center, (reasonably accessible to
persons with mobility impairment) 742 Bay Road, Town of Queensbury, Warren County, New York, to
consider the application for a variance of Mr. Stephen C. Miller, as applicant for property owners Harley &
Rita Dewey, to allow a 92 feet distance between the seepage pit and a neighbor's well, a 145 feet distance
between the seepage pit and another neighbor's well, and a 64 feet distance between the seepage pit and the
owner's well, in lieu of the required 150 feet distance(s), on property situated Birdsall Road, Town of
Queensbury, New York, and bearing Tax Map No.: Section 40, Block 1, Lot 19.2, and, at that time, all
persons interested in the subject thereof will be heard, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Clerk of the Town of Queensbury be and is hereby directed and
authorized, when in receipt of a list of neighbors within 500 feet of the subject property, to publish and
provide Notice of said Public Hearing as may be required by law, and authorized to mail copies of said
Public Hearing Notice to the adjoining neighbors.
Duly adopted this 5th day of August, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
DISCUSSION HELD AFTER VOTE:
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Noted that one of the neighbors is not happy about the variance. Asked Mr.
Hatin to look to see if there is any way it could be moved the legal distance from their well?
MR. HATIN-We've already tried that with the owner, the second owner this property is for sale. The other
option we have is the same situation you had last month where we reinstalled it in the same location.
RESOLUTION ADJOURNING QUEENSBURY BOARD OF HEALTH
RESOLUTION NO. 19,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from the Queensbury
Board of Health and enters back into the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury.
Duly adopted this 5th day of August, 1996, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mr.
Champagne
Noes: None
Absent:None
CORRESPONDENCE
DEPUTY TOWN CLERK O'BRIEN-Read following letter into the record.
To: Kip Grant, Fire Marshal, Date: July 31, 1996 FROM: Mike O'Neil, Assistant Principal, Queensbury
School
Dear Kip:
I just wanted to pass along a personal thank you to you for spending the time with our Pre-Kindergarten
Program. These children are so impressionable at this time of their lives and having you visit and present
your information will be something I'm sure they won't forget for the rest of their summer.
Our Pre-Kindergarten Summer Program is one of the best anywhere and one of the reason is having visitors
like yourself.
Thanks again, and enjoy the remainder of your summer.
Sincerely,
Mike O'Neil
Assistant Principal
RESOLUTIONS
RESOLUTION OF TOWN BOARD ORDERING DEMOLITION
AND REMOVAL OF BUILDING OWNED BY HARLEY JAMES
RESOLUTION NO. 324, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, after holding a hearing on May 20,
1996 by resolution no. 225, 96, determined that upon reviewing all available information, that the building
owned by Harley James and located on property identified as tax map no.: 125-3-2 located on Corinth Road
appeared to be unsafe and dangerous, potentially an object of attraction and a danger to minors, unfit for
the purposes for which it may be lawfully used and irreparable, and further ordered that the building be
repaired or demolished and removed, and in the event that the resolution of the Town Board was not
complied with, that the Town Board would take action to have the property demolished, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board has been advised that notice of the hearing and a copy of Resolution
No. 225, 96 was served on the property owner and others having an interest in the property, pursuant to
Section 130(16) of the New York State Town Law and Chapter 60 of the Code of the Town of Queensbury,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby determines that there has
been a refusal or neglect of the property owner of that property bearing tax map no. 125-3-2 to comply with
the order of the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury and the Town Board hereby authorizes the
demolition and removal of the building by either Town employees or by contract, except that should the
cost of demolition or removal exceed $7,000., the same shall be awarded by competitive bidding, and
commencement of a special proceeding by Town Counsel, if necessary, to collect the costs of demolition
and removal, including legal expenses, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that all expenses incurred by the Town in connection with the proceedings to
demolish and remove the unsafe building, including the cost of actually removing the building, shall be
assessed against the real property in which such building is located, and shall be levied and collected in the
same manner as provided in Article 15 of the Town Law for the levy and collection of special ad valorem
assessments, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Director of Building and Codes Enforcement is authorized and directed to
take such further steps as may be necessary and appropriate to accomplish demolition of the building, so
long as the terms and provisions of this resolution are adhered to, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that a copy of this resolution shall be sent by certified mail, return receipt requested,
to the property owner.
Duly adopted this 5th day of August, 1996 by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
DISCUSSION HELD BEFORE VOTE:
COUNCILMAN PULVER-Questioned how many bids do they usually get for this?
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING & CODES, MR. HATIN-Three.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Questioned if Mr. Hatin has spoken with Mike Palmer?
MR. HATIN-No.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Questioned if this was an offer that we would want to give to them.
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING & CODES, MR. HATIN-Noted he could persue that. This is a house that
they would have to burn they could not use it for training, noted that is what Mr. Palmer prefers to do
before he burns the house.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-Noted if the fire department could use it for some sort of training first.
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING & CODES, MR. HATIN-I can offer and make a phone call tomorrow.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Fine.
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING AND CODES, MR. HATIN-That will lessen the cost.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-We don't get bids we get requests for proposals don't we?
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING & CODES, MR. HATIN-Basically, yes.
TOWN COUNSEL, MARK SCHACHNER-Do you want in the first resolved it includes the option of
having to seek a court order authorizing the demolition. That's not required, but you have sometimes still
opted, I think. Do you want to include that or exclude that? It's in the brackets the sixth line of the first
whereas.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-What has been our practice on that?
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING & CODES, MR. HATIN-We haven't done it previously.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-So are we safe without it?
TOWN COUNSEL SCHACHNER-We're authorized to do without.
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING & CODES, MR. HATIN-Everybody was properly notified and we did try and
serve the proper owner of the property even though her whereabouts aren't known we did serve her last
residence that we knew of. Also, Harley James was served in the Warren County Adult Home.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT -As you are going west on Corinth Road this is on the right hand side just
down from West Mountain?
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING & CODES, MR. HATIN-Yes, right across from Adirondack Sharpening, I
believe it is.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-It is boarded up now?
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING & CODES, MR. HATIN-Yes.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-We've been working with this for over a year haven't we?
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING & CODES, MR. HATIN-It's been about four years.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Noted she votes yes with the understanding that Mr. Hatin will talk to the
Fire Chief.
RESOLUTION TO AMEND 1996 BUDGET
RESOLUTION NO.: 325,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHEREAS, certain Town Departments have requested fund transfers for the 1996 Budget and the
Chief Fiscal Officer has approved said requests,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the funds be transferred as follows for the
1996 budget:
CEMETERY:
FROM:
TO:
$ AMOUNT:
02-8810-4400
(Contractual)
02-8810-4110
(Vehicle Repair
& Maintenance)
300.
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT:
FROM:
TO:
$ AMOUNT:
01-8010-4090
(Conference Expense)
01-8010-4400
(Misc. Contractual)
250.
01-8020-4400
(Misc. Contractual)
01-8020-1915-002
(Senior Typist - Overtime)
125.
WASTE WATER:
FROM:
TO:
$ AMOUNT:
032-9710-7010
(Serial Bond Interest)
032-8130-4425
(Sewer Charges)
37,610.
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the 1996 Town Budget is hereby amended accordingly.
Duly adopted this 5th day of August, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION APPOINTING JOHN GORALSKI TO
PERMANENT CIVIL SERVICE STATUS
RESOLUTION NO.: 326,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury by resolution no. 186,95, appointed Mr.
John Goralski provisionally to the previously established position of Code Enforcement Officer until such
time as Mr. Goralski passed the Civil Service Examination, and
WHEREAS, by resolution no. 233, 95, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury amended the
title ofMr. Goralski's position to "Code Compliance Officer," and
WHEREAS, Mr. John Goralski has passed the Civil Service examination for the Code
Compliance Officer position,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby appoints Mr. John Goralski
to the position of Code Compliance Officer and that he be given permanent status, with a twenty-six week
probationary period to commence on the date of this resolution, in accordance with the Civil Service laws,
rules, and regulations of the State of New York, Warren County, and Town of Queensbury, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor is hereby authorized to complete any civil service forms
that may be necessary to effectuate the terms and provisions of this resolution.
Duly adopted this 5th day of August, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
DISCUSSION HELD BEFORE VOTE:
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Noted there is a space in the resolution that needs to be filled in.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Questioned how long Mr. Goralski has been with the town?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-One year. There is a probationary period that is called for upon
successful completion of the test.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-The minimum is eight weeks up to twenty-six weeks in the maximum.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Noted normally six months is the standard procedures with civil service.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-So do you want to say twenty-six weeks? Noted that Mr.
Goralski placed first on the test.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT -Noted that she has received nothing but compliments regarding Mr. Goralski.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Noted twenty-six week probationary period after one year.
RESOLUTION TO APPOINT MEMBERS TO TOWN ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
RESOLUTION NO. 327, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury has previously established the Town Zoning Board of
Appeals (ZBA) pursuant to New York State Town Law Section 267, and
WHEREAS, two members of the ZBA have recently resigned creating two (2) vacancies,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby appoints Donald W.
O'Leary to serve as a member of the Zoning Board of Appeals, effective immediately, to fill the unexpired
term of Thomas Ford, said term to expire on December 31, 1998, and
BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby appoints Lewis M. Stone to
serve as a member of the Zoning Board of Appeals, effective September 14, 1996, to fill a vacancy left by
Fred Carvin, said term to expire on December 31, 2001.
Duly adopted this 4th day of August, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
DISCUSSION HELD BEFORE VOTE:
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Spoke to the board regarding the Chairman of the Zoning
Board. Noted the Board did a poll and decided on Chris Thomas as the Chairman, but it requires a
resolution from the Town Board to do that.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Noted right now they have him as Co-Chairman.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-With the recommendation he be appointed.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Noted he is Secretary of the Board. Questioned when you are Secretary of
the Board can you also serve as Co-Chairman at the same time?
TOWN COUNSEL, MR. SCHACHNER-No. They should change that, there is not really a Co-Chairman
either. Noted the appropriate thing to do is after the current Chairman has step down the new member
should vote on a Chairman.
RESOLUTION SETTING PUBLIC HEARING
ON PROPOSED LOCAL LAW NO. _, 1996
A LOCAL LAW TO AMEND THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
BY ADDING A NEW CHAPTER 34 TO BE ENTITLED,
"RETIREMENT INCENTIVE PROGRAM"
WHICH CHAPTER SHALL AUTHORIZE A RETIREMENT INCENTIVE PROGRAM
FOR ELIGIBLE EMPLOYEES OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
RESOLUTION NO. 328, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHEREAS, at this meeting there has been presented for adoption by the Town Board of the Town
of Queensbury, a draft Local Law No. _, 1996 "A Local Law to Amend the Code of the Town of
Queensbury by Adding a New Chapter 34 to be Entitled, 'Retirement Incentive Program,' Which Chapter
Shall Authorize a Retirement Incentive Program for Eligible Employees of the Town of Queensbury," and
WHEREAS, such legislation is authorized pursuant to ~ 10 of the Municipal Home Rule Law of
the State of New York and Chapter 30, Laws of 1996 of New York State, and
WHEREAS, prior to adoption of said Local Law, it is necessary to conduct a public hearing,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED AND ORDERED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury shall meet and
hold a public hearing at the Activities Center, 742 Bay Road, Queensbury, Warren County, New York, at
7:00 p.m., on the 19th day of August, 1996, to consider said Local Law No. _, 1996 and to hear all
persons interested on the subject matter thereof concerning the same to take such action thereon as is
required or authorized by law, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED AND ORDERED, that the Town Clerk of the Town of Queensbury is hereby
directed to publish and post the notice that has also been presented at this meeting concerning the proposed
Local Law No. _, 1996 in the manner provided by law.
Duly adopted this 5th day of August, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION RETAINING PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES OF
H. THOMAS JARRETT, P.E. CONCERNING THE FROEHLICH PROJECT -
CLEVERDALE ROAD STORMW ATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM
RESOLUTION NO.: 329,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury has been awarded a grant for $20,000. from the Lake
George Association to undertake development of a stormwater management system along the north section
of Cleverdale Road between Fielding Lane and the intersection of Mason Road and Cleverdale Road in the
Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury and the Lake George Association have
initiated conceptual planning and design of the aforementioned stormwater management system, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury desires to retain the services of an
engineering firm to provide technical assistance toward the conceptual design of that system and to assist
with planning for a possible future stormwater management system along Mason Road and/or the section of
Cleverdale Road north of the Mason Road intersection, and
WHEREAS, H. Thomas Jarrett, P.E., Professional Engineer, in his letter and proposed agreement
to the Town Board dated July 8, 1996, offered to perform the engineering services to be completed during
the planning and conceptual design phase of the project, a copy of said letter and proposed agreement being
presented to this meeting,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby approves and authorizes
the retention ofH. Thomas Jarrett, P.E., to provide the services described in the preambles hereof at a cost
not to exceed $8,500.,
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that Mr. Jarrett will submit the invoice for his services directly to the Lake George
Association for payment with the Lake George Association in turn invoicing the Town, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor is hereby authorized and directed to sign the letter
agreement in form approved by Town Counsel.
Duly adopted this 5th day of August, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
DISCUSSION HELD BEFORE VOTE:
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Noted that Thomas Jarrett is a member of the Environmental Advisory
Board.
RESOLUTION TO SET PUBLIC HEARING AND TO DESIGNATE THE TOWN AS
LEAD AGENCY REGARDING PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE CODE
OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY, CHAPTER 179 THEREOF ENTITLED
"ZONING"
RESOLUTION NO. 330, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is desirous of amending, supplementing,
changing and/or modifying the Town of Queensbury Zoning Ordinance, the same having been previously
codified and made a part of the Code of the Town of Queensbury as Chapter 179 thereof entitled "Zoning,"
and
WHEREAS, the proposed amendment to the said Code of the Town of Queensbury, Chapter 179
thereof entitled "Zoning" is in the form of a Local Law, titled "A Local Law to amend the Code of the
Town of Queensbury, Chapter 179 thereof, entitled 'Zoning' to amend and revise certain provisions thereof,
delete some provisions thereto, and add new provisions thereto", and is presented to this meeting of the said
Town Board with this resolution and is incorporated herein, as if more fully set forth herein, for all
purposes, and
WHEREAS, a completed Part I of a Long Environmental Assessment Form has also been
presented at this meeting, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury may, from time to time, pursuant to
Section 265 of the Town Law and/or the relevant sections of the Municipal Home Rule Law of the State of
New York, amend, supplement, change, modify or repeal the Zoning Ordinance as codified, and
WHEREAS, it is necessary to hold a public hearing prior to adopting said proposed Local Law,
and
WHEREAS, it is also necessary to provide notice to other governmental bodies or agencies as
required by law, and
WHEREAS, it is also necessary to comply with the State Environmental Quality Review Act in
connection with conducting an environmental review of the proposed action which consists of adopting the
proposed Local Law amending Chapter 179 of the Code of the Town of Queensbury entitled 'Zoning", and
WHEREAS, it would appear that the action about to be undertaken by the Town Board of the
Town of Queensbury is an unlisted action under the provisions of and regulations adopted pursuant to said
State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA),
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby indicates that it desires to
conduct a coordinated review and be the lead agency in connection with any reviews necessary pursuant to
the State Environmental Quality Review Act and directs that such notices be sent by the Zoning
Administrator to such other involved agencies as may be required under SEQRA to notify the agencies of
this action and that the Town Board desires to be lead agency in a coordinated review and that a lead
agency must be agreed to within 30 days, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury shall hold a public hearing on
August 19, 1996, at 7:00 p.m. in the Queensbury Activities Center, 742 Bay Road, Queensbury, Warren
County, New York, at which time all parties in interest and citizens shall have an opportunity to be heard,
upon and in reference to the proposed Local Law, titled "A Local Law to amend the Code of the Town of
Queensbury, Chapter 179 thereof, entitled 'Zoning' to amend and revise certain provisions thereof, delete
some provisions thereto, and add new provisions thereto", amendment, supplement, change and/or
modification to the Town of Queensbury Zoning Ordinance as codified and a part of the Code of the Town
of Queensbury, Chapter 179, thereof entitled "Zoning," and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Clerk of the Town of Queensbury is hereby authorized and directed
to give 10 days notice of said public hearing by publishing a notice in a form to be approved by Town
Counsel and substantially in conformance with the Notice presented at this meeting, for purposes of
publication in an official newspaper of the Town and by posting on the Town bulletin Board outside the
Clerk's Office said notice, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Zoning Administrator is hereby authorized and directed to give written
notice of the proposed amendment to the Zoning Ordinance of the Town of Queensbury as codified and a
part of the Code of the Town of Queensbury, Chapter 179, thereof entitled "Zoning," a copy of the
Environmental Assessment Form, a copy of this resolution and a copy of the written notice previously
described 10 days prior to the public hearing to the following: Warren County, by service upon the Clerk
of the Board of Supervisors, and such other communities or agencies that it is necessary to give written
notice to pursuant to Section 264 of the Town Law and Municipal Home Rule Law of the State of New
York, the Code of the Town of Queensbury and the Laws of the State of New York, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Zoning Administrator is hereby authorized and directed to give notice of
said proposed amendment to the Zoning Ordinance as codified and a part of the Code of the Town of
Queensbury, Chapter 179, thereof entitled "Zoning," a copy of the Environmental Assessment Form, the
Notice of Public Hearing and a copy of this resolution to the Warren County Planning Agency and the
Town of Queensbury Planning Board for their review in accordance with the laws of the State of New York
and Code of the Town of Queensbury, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Zoning Administrator is also hereby directed to send a copy of the proposed
amendment, Notice of Public Hearing, a copy of the Environmental Assessment Form and a copy of this
resolution to the Adirondack Park Agency.
Duly adopted this 5th day of August, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION TO ALLOW FOOT RACE FOR THE BENEFIT OF
BIG BROTHERS/BIG SISTERS OF WARREN,
WASHINGTON, AND NORTHERN SARATOGA COUNTIES
RESOLUTION NO. 331, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, the Tri-Counties Big Brothers/Big Sisters Organization has requested permission to
conduct a foot race for the benefit of their organization as follows:
SPONSOR:
Big Brothers/Big Sisters of Warren, Washington and Northern Saratoga
Counties
EVENT:
Foot Race
DATE:
Saturday, August 17, 1996,9:00 a.m.
PLACE: Beginning at the Town Office Building, Haviland Road, Meadowbrook
Road, Cronin Road, Bay Road, Bayberry Court and ending at the Town Office Building (see attached
map);
and
WHEREAS, Paul H. Naylor, Town Highway Superintendent, and Fred Austin, Warren County
Highway Superintendent, have approved of said race course,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby acknowledges receipt of
proof of insurance from Big Brothers/Big Sisters of Warren, Washington and Northern Saratoga Counties
to hold a Foot Race in the Town of Queensbury, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby approves this event subject to approval by the Town
Highway Superintendent, which may be revoked due to concern for road conditions at any time up to the
date and time of the event.
Duly adopted this 5th day of August, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
DISCUSSION HELD BEFORE VOTE:
TOWN COUNSEL, MR. SCHACHNER-Noted the Sponsors of the race neglected to include Bayberry
Court on their list of roads requested for approval. Received letter of approval from Highway
Superintendent, Paul Naylor regarding road. Town Board in agreement to add road.
RESOLUTION SETTING PUBLIC HEARING
ON PROPOSED LOCAL LAW NO. _, 1996
A LOCAL LAW TO AMEND THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
BY REPEALING CHAPTER 11 THEREOF, ENTITLED, "ELECTIONS"
RESOLUTION NO. 332, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHEREAS, at this meeting there has been presented for adoption by the Town Board of the Town
of Queensbury, Local Law No. _, 1996, A Local Law to Amend the Code of the Town of Queensbury by
Repealing Chapter 11 thereof, entitled, "Elections," which Chapter presently requires that to vote in any
special election held in and for the Town of Queensbury pursuant to the provisions of the Town Law,
persons must be registered to vote with the Warren County Board of Elections, and
WHEREAS, such legislation is authorized pursuant to ~ 10 of the Municipal Home Rule Law of
the State of New York, and
WHEREAS, prior to adoption of said Local Law, it is necessary to conduct a public hearing,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED AND ORDERED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury shall meet and
hold a public hearing at the Activities Center, 742 Bay Road, Queensbury, Warren County, New York, at
7:00 p.m., on the 19th day of August, 1996, to consider said Local Law No. _, 1996 and to hear all
persons interested on the subject matter thereof concerning the same to take such action thereon as is
required or authorized by law, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED AND ORDERED, that the Town Clerk of the Town of Queensbury is hereby
directed to publish and post the notice that has also been presented at this meeting concerning the proposed
Local Law No. _,1996 in the manner provided by law.
Duly adopted this 5th day of August, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION SETTING PUBLIC HEARING
ON PROPOSED LOCAL LAW NO. _, 1996
A LOCAL LAW TO AMEND THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
CHAPTER 124 THEREOF ENTITLED "PARKS AND RECREATION AREAS"
TO AMEND SECTIONS l24-6C, 7C AND 8C RELATIVE TO PAYMENT OF
RECREATION FEES
RESOLUTION NO. 333, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHEREAS, at this meeting there has been presented for adoption by the Town Board of the Town
of Queensbury, Local Law No. _, 1996, a Local Law to Amend the Code of the Town of Queensbury,
Chapter 124 Thereof entitled "Parks and Recreation Areas" to amend Sections l24-6C, 7C and 8C to
generally provide that payment of Recreation Fees will be paid at the time that a building permit
application is submitted rather than at the time of final site plan approval, and
WHEREAS, such legislation is authorized pursuant to the Municipal Home Rule Law of the State
of New York, and
WHEREAS, prior to adoption of said Local Law, it is necessary to conduct a public hearing,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED AND ORDERED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury shall meet and
hold a public hearing at the Activities Center, 742 Bay Road, Queensbury, Warren County, New York, at
7:00 p.m., on the 19th day of August, 1996, to consider said Local Law No. _, 1996 and to hear all
persons interested on the subject matter thereof concerning the same and to take such action thereon as is
required or authorized by law, and
BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED AND ORDERED, that the Town Clerk of the Town of Queensbury is hereby
directed to publish and post the notice that has also been presented at this meeting concerning the proposed
Local Law No. _, 1996 in the manner provided by law.
Duly adopted this 4th day of August, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TOWN CLERK TO SUBMIT PETITION
FOR CHANGE OF ZONE FOR HARRIS, TOOMEY, ZVERBLIS & OUDERKERK
FROM RR-3A TO SR-1A
TO TOWN OF QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD
RESOLUTION NO. 334, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury has previously approved a form entitled,
"Petition for a Change of Zone" for rezoning matters, and has directed that the same be used for rezoning
requests, and
WHEREAS, any and all applications for rezoning first go to the Planning Department and
Planning Board for recommendations pursuant to ~ 179-94 of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Ordinance,
and
WHEREAS, following such recommendations, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury will
then review the Rezoning Applications and take such other action as it shall deem necessary and proper,
and
WHEREAS, the property owners listed below have submitted a Petition for a Change of Zone as
described below and such Petition has been reviewed by the Town Planning Staff and deemed complete for
purposes of review,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes and directs that
the following application be submitted to the Planning Board for the Town of Queensbury for report and
recommendation:
APPLICATION OF: MR. RONALD & MRS. SHIRLEY HARRIS, MR. HOWARD & MRS.
BARBARA TOOMEY, MR. FRANK ZVERBLIS (BETTY ZVERBLIS), AND MR. ALBERT & MRS.
ELEANOROUDERKERK
TAX MAP NO. 'S: 48-3-53, 48-3-51.1, 48-3-49.1, 46-1-3, 48-3-51.5 and 48-3-51.4
PROPERTY LOCATION: Bay and Sunnyside Roads, Queensbury, New York 12804
APPLICATION FOR: Rezoning from RR-3A to SR-1A
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby indicates that it desires to
be Lead Agency for the SEQRA review of this project and directs that the Zoning Administrator's Office
notify any other involved agencies of this.
Duly adopted this 5th day of August, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr. Turner, Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
ABSTAIN:Mrs. Monahan
DISCUSSION HELD BEFORE VOTE:
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Spoke to the board regarding the Master Plan and the Rezoning of the
Town, noting that we shouldn't be doing these new major rezoning's. Questioned if the results of the soil
test have been sent in noting the Planning Board needs this?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-No. They have done some testing and some soil analysis but
not to the degree and detail that we're ultimately going to want to see.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Noted before this goes, is the staff going to have time to do comments and
check and see if this is or is not in accordance with the present Master Plan?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Yes.
RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING BUILDING & CODE
ENFORCEMENT OFFICER POSITION
RESOLUTION NO.: 335,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury Department of Community Development has the function
of administering and enforcing the New York State Building Codes, as well as various other local laws for
the purpose of protecting the health, safety and welfare of Town residents, and
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury presently has established the position of Assistant Building
and Zoning Enforcement Officer, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury desires to establish a new position of
Building and Code Enforcement Officer to more accurately reflect the existing administration and
enforcement practice relating to the aforementioned laws through the provision of properly qualified staff,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury does hereby establish the position
entitled, "Building and Code Enforcement Officer" for the purpose of providing effective enforcement of
the New York State Building Codes, and various other local laws as directed by the Town Board.
Duly adopted this 5th day of August, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION UPGRADING TITLE FROM ASSIST ANT BUILDING AND
ZONING ENFORCEMENT OFFICER TO BUILDING AND CODES
ENFORCEMENT OFFICER FOR JOHN O'BRIEN AND JOEL CLUGSTONE
RESOLUTION NO. 336, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury has previously established the position
of Building and Codes Enforcement Officer, and
WHEREAS, the Executive Director of Community Development and the Director of Building and
Codes, as the department head and immediate supervisor for this position have recommended an upgrade
for the job titles of John O'Brien and Joel Clugstone from Assistant Building and Zoning Enforcement
Officer to Building and Codes Enforcement Officer,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby changes the job titles for
John O'Brien and Joel Clugstone from Assistant Building and Zoning Enforcement Officer to Building and
Codes Enforcement Officer, with no adjustment in salary, said changes in title to commence upon the
adoption of this Resolution, and said positions to be provisional upon successful completion of the Civil
Service Test.
Duly adopted this 5th day of August, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
DISCUSSION HELD BEFORE VOTE:
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Questioned which of the two candidates is the newest?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Noted Joel Clugstone.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Questioned how long Mr. Clugstone has been with the town?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-One year, five months.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Mr. O'Brien?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Three years in November.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Questioned if this makes a change in salary?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-No.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Questioned if Mr. Martin felt it is appropriate to upgrade them both?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-They both act independently and can function on any given
day, any given project. They regularly inspect commercial, residential, industrial projects, both of them
interchangeably even on the same project itself. They are both fully qualified, fully capable to do the same
type of work. Noted he is trying to establish in the department a rank order of chain of command. They
are both fully qualified in terms of their college education and also have all the code schooling from New
York State.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Questioned if the one year, five month employment is long enough to go into
this position, your feeling is as long as they have the schooling and have complied with the schooling.....
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I think it's that in combination with the experience that they've
demonstrated. Noted in his specific case, feels a year and four months is sufficient.
RESOLUTION SETTING PUBLIC HEARING
CONCERNING PROPOSED CENTRAL QUEENSBURY QUAKER ROAD
SEWER DISTRICT EXTENSION NO.3
RESOLUTION NO. 337, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Theodore Turner
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is desirous of considering an extension
to the existing Central Queensbury Quaker Road Sewer District, to be known as the Central Queensbury
Quaker Road Sewer District Extension No.3, and
WHEREAS, a District Extension Map has been prepared regarding the said proposed extension to
the existing Central Queensbury Quaker Road Sewer District, such extension on Route 9, to include lands
of Meadow Run Development Corp. (tax map #72-6-26) and Storytown USA, Inc. (tax map #72-6-27.2),
with the boundaries of the proposed extension being more fully set forth herein and on the District
Extension Map, and
WHEREAS, the District Extension Map has been filed in the Town Clerk's Office in the Town of
Queensbury and is available for public inspection, and
WHEREAS, the District Extension Map was prepared by VanDusen & Steves Land Surveyors,
and
WHEREAS, said District Extension Map shows the boundaries of the proposed extension to the
Central Queensbury Quaker Road Sewer District, with it also being set forth further that the sewage
disposal plant is proposed to be the City of Glens Falls Sewage Disposal Plant, to be used in accordance
with the terms and provisions of an Agreement and the transmission mains of the Central Queensbury
Quaker Road Sewer District shall also be used to transport the sewage from the said extension to the City
Plant, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury desires to establish the said proposed
sewer extension pursuant to Town Law, Article l2A, and consolidate the same with the Central
Queensbury Quaker Road Sewer District pursuant to Town Law, Section 206A, and
WHEREAS, an Environmental Assessment Form has been prepared and presented at this meeting,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED:
1. The Town Board shall consider establishing the proposed extension to the Central
Queensbury Quaker Road Sewer District, the same being briefly previously described in this Resolution
and more fully in the District Extension Map presented at this meeting, said sewer extension to be known
as the Central Queensbury Quaker Road Sewer District Extension No.3;
2. The boundaries of the proposed extension are as set forth in the attached District
Extension Map;
3. There will be no financing of the construction or installation cost for the proposed
sewer extension and no amount shall be paid therefor by the extension, the Town of Queensbury or the
Central Queensbury Quaker Road Sewer District;
4. In accordance with Town Law, Section 206A, all expenses of the Central Queensbury
Quaker Road Sewer District, including all extensions included heretofore or hereafter established, shall be
a charge against the entire area of the district as extended;
5. The District Extension Map describing the improvements and area involved is on file
with the Town Clerk of the Town of Queensbury and available for public inspection;
6. The Town Board of the Town of Queensbury shall meet and hold a public hearing at
the Queensbury Activities Center, 742 Bay Road, Queensbury, Warren County, New York, on the 19th,
day of August, 1996 for the said sewer extension in accordance with the terms and provisions of this
Resolution and to hear all persons interested in the proposal and to take such other and further action as
may be required or allowed by law;
7. The Town Clerk is directed to cause a copy of this Order to be duly published and
posted not less than ten (10) days nor more than twenty (20) days before the hearing date set forth herein
and as required by Town Law, Section 209-D, and complete or arrange for the securing of two (2)
affidavits of publication of notice and two (2) affidavits of posting of notice of the public hearing as
required thereby, and it is further
RESOLVED, that the Town Counsel and appropriate Town personnel are hereby authorized and
directed to notify the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation and the New York State
Department of Health of the public hearing and proposed action and advise them that the Town Board of
the Town of Queensbury desires to coordinate a SEQRA review of the proposed action and to act as lead
agency in the review of said action pursuant to the State Environmental Quality Review Act and the Town
Counsel is also authorized to forward a copy of this Resolution, Part 1 of the Environmental Assessment
Form presented at this meeting, and notice of the hearing date to the aforementioned involved agencies,
with such other and further documentation as may be deemed necessary or appropriate by the Town
Counsel.
Duly adopted this 5th day of August, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan,
Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION SETTING PUBLIC HEARING
ON PROPOSED LOCAL LAW
TO AMEND THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
BY REPEALING EXISTING CHAPTER 91 THEREOF, ENTITLED,
"FLOOD DAMAGE PREVENTION" AND REPLACING IT WITH A
NEW CHAPTER 91 ENTITLED, "FLOOD DAMAGE PREVENTION"
RESOLUTION NO. 338, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHEREAS, at this meeting there has been presented for adoption by the Town Board of the Town
of Queensbury a Local Law to Amend the Code of the Town of Queensbury by Repealing Existing Chapter
91 thereof, entitled, "Flood Damage Prevention," and replacing it with a new Chapter 91 entitled "Flood
Damage Prevention," which new Chapter 91 incorporates changes made by the Federal Emergency
Management Agency (FEMA) in the existing floodplain management regulations, and
WHEREAS, such legislation is authorized pursuant to ~ 10 of the Municipal Home Rule Law of
the State of New York, and
WHEREAS, prior to adoption of said Local Law, it is necessary to conduct a public hearing,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED AND ORDERED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury shall meet and
hold a public hearing at the Activities Center, 742 Bay Road, Queensbury, Warren County, New York, at
4:30 p.m., on the 12th day of August, 1996, to consider said Local Law and to hear all persons interested on
the subject matter thereof concerning the same to take such action thereon as is required or authorized by
law, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED AND ORDERED, that the Town Clerk of the Town of Queensbury is hereby
directed to publish and post the notice that has also been presented at this meeting concerning the proposed
Local Law in the manner provided by law.
Duly adopted this 5th day of August, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mr.
Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
PLANNED DISCUSSION ITEMS
OLD BUSINESS
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Questioned if a date has been set regarding the Information Meeting for
North Queensbury Sewer.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Not yet, awaiting word from Mr. Geiss.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-Noted the Water and Sewer Meeting will be held at on August 15th, 1996 at
1:30p.m. Asked Kim Heunemann, Supervisor's Secretary to make note of this and advertise it.
INDIAN RIDGE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Turned over petitions and letters that she has received regarding the Indian
Ridge PUD to the Deputy Town Clerk.
PROPOSED INDIAN RIDGE PUD ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM
IMPACT ON LAND
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Will the proposed action result in a physical change to the
project site?
TOWN BOARD-Yes.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I'll go through the examples. Any construction on slopes of
15% or greater, (15 foot rise per 100 foot length), or where the general slopes in the project area exceed
1O%.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-My understanding, no.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Construction on land where the depth to the water table is less
than 3 feet.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Construction on paved parking area for 1,000 or more vehicles.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Construction on land where bedrock is exposed or generally
within 3 feet of existing ground surface.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Construction that will continue for more than 1 year or involve
more than one phase or stage.
TOWN BOARD-Yes.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I went through and checked the phasing plan that was
submitted on May 6th, it shows seven phases and that includes the one for the senior housing complex.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-So it is a yes.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Would you consider that to be small to moderate impact or
potentially large?
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Is there a guideline?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-No. The only other thing, I would add is the developer has
indicated a seven year build-out. There has been varying opinions on that it may be somewhat longer so
that would give you some guidance as to the pace of that development.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-I'd say small.
SUPERVISOR CHAMP AGNE-I would suggest small, too. I'd rather have it be a seven year build out than
a one or a three or a five, I'd say small.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Is that a consensus opinion?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I think so Jim.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-I have to do some math.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-Yeah. He indicated to us he would only be doing twenty units a year.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-We have a hundred eleven single families and your eighteen
duplexes that would give you a total of a hundred twenty-nine residential units plus the sixty-one with the
senior housing. There would be varying times when that would come on. Divided by even seven years
would allow for approximately eighteen units a year. Small to moderate then?
TOWN BOARD-Yes.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Excavation for mining purposes that would remove more than
1,000 tons of natural material ( i.e., rock or soil) per year.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Construction or expansion of a sanitary landfill.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Construction in a designated floodway.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Any other impacts that come to mind?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-2. Will there be an effect to any unique of unusual land forms
found on the site (i.e., cliffs, dunes, geological formations, etc.)
TOWN BOARD-No.
IMPACT ON WATER
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Will proposed action affect any water body designated as
protected?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I think we have to answer the questions underneath that first.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Looking at the examples. Developable area of site contains a
protected water body.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Dredging more than 100 cubic yards of material from channel
of a protected stream.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Extension of utility distribution facilities through a protected
water body.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Construction in a designated freshwater or tidal wetland.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Then reconsidering number three.
TOWN BOARD-It would be no.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-4. Will propose action affect any non-protected existing or
new body of water?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Let's do the examples first.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Examples would include. A 10% increase or decrease in the
surface area of any body of water or more than a 10 acre increase or decrease.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN -Construction of a body of water that exceeds 10 acres of
surface area.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Any other impacts.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Okay. Reconsidering number four then.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-It's a no.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-5. Will propose action affect surface or groundwater quality or
quantity?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Let's go through the examples.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action will require a discharge permit.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action requires use of a source of water that does not
have approval to serve proposed (project) action.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action requires water supply from wells with greater
than 45 gallons per minute pumping capacity.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Construction or operation causing any contamination of a water
supply system.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action will adversely affect groundwater?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I'm going to leave that one right now.
COUNCILMAN PUL VER-I don't think it does.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-The only reason I'm leaving that right now, we had the applicant's
engineering and geological studies which says it doesn't. I am not completely satisfied with the way that
was reviewed by our engineer that's why I just put a question mark there, frankly.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-If we say no we can still go back and ask for a greater definition.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-That's my concern that letter really doesn't mean a tap that we got.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Let's vote as far as the board's concerned relative, you just want to leave
that undone?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-For right this minute, yeah.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-You want to answer the rest of the questions in this section and then come back
to it?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Yeah.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Liquid effluent will be conveyed off the site to facilities which
presently do not exist or have inadequate capacity.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action would use water in excess of 20,000 gallons
per day. They do have a water usage rate at 51,600 gallons per day at full build-out.
TOWN BOARD-Yes.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Would you consider that small to moderate or potentially large.
TOWN BOARD-Small to moderate.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I would say small to moderate because our plant has plenty of capacity for
that.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action will likely cause siltation or other discharge
into an existing body of water to the extent that there will be an obvious visual contrast to natural
conditions.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action will require the storage of petroleum or
chemical products greater than 1,100 gallons.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action will allow residential uses in areas without
water and/or sewer services.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Without sewer
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Correct. That being the case would you consider that to be
small to moderate or potentially large.
COUNCILMAN PUL VER-I say small to moderate. Everything over there has septic systems.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Small to moderate is the consensus?
SUPERVISOR CHAMP AGNE- That's my vote.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-Yeah.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-Everything is suppose to have septic over there.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Well yeah, but the question then goes what the ground is for the septic.
COUNCILMAN PUL VER-I think the soils show that it will accept the septic.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-That's what I said. I'm unhappy that we didn't get a little better review from
our own engineer that's my point.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action locates commercial and/or industrial use
which may require new or expansion of existing waste treatment and/or storage facilities.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Any other impacts.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-I think you also have to go back to the proposed action will allow residential
uses in areas without water and/or sewer services and find out if that's small or moderate or large.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-We did.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I had small to moderate. Is there any question about the
consensus.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Okay, I guess I didn't catch it.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Let's make sure do we have a small to moderate?
COUNCILMAN PUL VER-I have small to moderate.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-That's what I have.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-Yeah.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Taking up the proposed action will adversely affect
groundwater.
COUNCILMAN PUL VER-I still say no.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT -I say yes, excuse me I take that back.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Again, from all engineering results obviously it has been identified as not
having an impact. Betty's concern is that the Town Engineer needs to do a more complete and through
reVIew.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I think for that and the septic both. That's my concern that it was like a
motherhood and apple pie letter that I didn't think had much merit frankly. I'm not sure what the quality of
their review is, I guess is what I'm really saying from that letter. They certainly didn't do much detail about
what kind of review that had done.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Jim what's your opinion?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I just made a notation from the data we had that there have
been eight test pits dug at the site. Four on March, 89 and four on July, 95. The recorded percolation times
were one minute fifteen seconds to two minutes was the range at all eight sites.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Which is a fast percolation rate.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-It's in the acceptable range, but it is at the lower end of the
acceptable range there is no doubt about that.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Why is our response from our own engineer so poor?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-It basically says that the engineering done was done according
to acceptable professional standards.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-As you requested we have reviewed the Traffic Impact Studies Summary
Soil Investigation Geohyrological Investigation Report for the above reference project. All the studies
appear to be based on relevant data and were conducted in accordance with usual professional standards.
The conclusion reached appeared to be supportive by the data and analysis performed. That's kind of a
letter that could be read anyway you want it to, everything is appear.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-What do you want to do with it?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I frankly think that right now I want a little bit more detailed answer from
our engineer on that.
COUNCILMAN PUL VER-I think we need to be specific when we go back to him. Tell him exactly what
it is that we want not just a generic letter.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I agree.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-The only way he is going to accept that responsibility obviously is for him
to go out....
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT -Do we not have him on retainer?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-He is on retainer. I don't know that his firm has that type of expertise or
not.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Oh yeah.
SUPERVISOR CHAMP AGNE- They do. That's what you want Betty a second evaluation based on our
engmeers.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-A better answer than we have here.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I've seen them do a better thing when they appear before the Planning Board
on a subdivision than this here is.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-What do you want to do?
COUNCILMAN PULVER-Have them review it.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-I want a better answer than that it doesn't say anything.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-So you want to leave proposed action will adversely affect
groundwater as a question mark. The response to number five, I believe is yes even by virtue of the small
to moderate response given to the example further down the list. We gave a small to moderate response on
the proposed action will allow residential uses in areas without water and/or sewer services. So it's yes to
number five?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Yes.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Leave a question mark on that one example. 6. Will proposed
action alter drainage flow or patterns, or surface water runoff?
TOWN BOARD-Yes.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Examples would include. Proposed action would change flood
water flows.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-I put yes, but I didn't know if I should judge within the flood plain or just
runoff water that has flooded the surface.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I think typically that refers to flood water flows in a flood zone.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-If it appears for the flood zone then the answer has to be no.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-So it's a nla.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-It's not applicable.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-It's a nla.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Top of page eight. Proposed action may cause substantial
erosIOn.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I think it could, but it's already been mitigated by the way we've made the
envelopes and stuff around those lots there.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-If the header question is not applicable why are we doing the bullet?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-It was the one bullet that we listed as non-applicable.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-I'm sorry. I just have to change my page with the question.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-It could, but I think with the constraints that have been put in there no it will
not. I don't know how you word that.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-We have the three indications so far of the grading of the site.
Those came in the typical site plan the typical site section and the overall drainage systems schematics.
Those came on three different dates and they all showed the grading that Betty refers to basically from the
back of the lot towards the street.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-So maybe we should do that a no, but then list those things that you just
listed Jim.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN -You might want to consider saying small to moderate and can
be mitigated by a project change. That would be the grading at shown on those plans. The next question.
Proposed action is incompatible with existing drainage patterns.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Not if their engineering study is correct.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Is that a consensus opinion on that?
TOWN BOARD-Yes.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action will allow development in a designated
floodway.
TOWN BOARD-No.
IMPACT ON AIR
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-7. Will proposed action affect air quality?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-No.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-No.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Wait a minute you have to do the things first.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I'll go through the examples quickly. Proposed action will
induce 1,000 or more vehicle trips in any given hour.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action will result in the incineration of more than 1
ton of refuse per hour.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Emission rate of total contaminants will exceed 5 lbs. per hour
or a heat source producing more than 10 million BTU's per hour.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action will allow an increase in the amount ofland
committed to industrial use.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action will allow an increase in the density of
industrial development within existing industrial areas.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-So number seven consensus opinion is no?
TOWN BOARD-No.
IMP ACT ON PLANTS AND ANIMALS
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Will proposed action affect any threatened or endangered
species?
TOWN BOARD-Yes.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-Let's read the bullet.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-First example. Reduction of one or more species listed on the
New York or Federal list, using the site, over or near site or found on the site.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Yes.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-Yes.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-What's been found there?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-The Blue Lupine is there.
COUNCILMAN PUL VER- They haven't found any Blue Lupine there.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I beg your pardon, there is Butterfly Weed, I don't have the list, but I've
been told that's on the New York State Protected List. I can't verify that, I mean I don't have my list with
me so I don't know.
COUNCILMAN PUL VER-I think we have to have it verified.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Normally we have a report from a Botanist. I know we have the one from
the lady at DEC, but I believe she was just asked to look for Blue Lupine. We do not as far as I know have
a complete Botanist list from a accredited Botanist am I correct Jim in that?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-The only thing that we have in that regard in from Kathy
O'Brien.
SUPERVISOR CHAMP AGNE- That was only the search for Lupine, Jim?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-As far I know, yes.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-What is the other one?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-The other one, I'm aware of and I did not walk the whole property there is
Butterfly Weed there. I was told, I don't have my list to check that it's on the New York State Protective so
we do need to protect that before we answer this.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I'm reading it again. Reduction of one or more species listed
on the New York or Federal list, using the site, over or near site or found on the site.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-They are both on the site if you are going to rip them up, there are going to
be reduced it's as simple as that.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT -Jim in Kathy O'Brien's letter can you read that?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-That's one thing, I didn't bring.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Jim was that by any chance part of the record when they had many of these
meetings?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-It's referenced in the Developers Agreement.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Betty what do you propose here for mitigation, I mean what is it that you
want to do?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I'm just answering the question. I'mjust saying it is there. I think we just
go down and answer the question first then we come back.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Is the butterfly the endangered species or is the plant?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-The plant.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-The butterfly is the endangered species, but given the fact that
the plant is the primary source of food for the butterfly it also is.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-It is also on the Federal Protected List. Let's just finish the question then
we'll look at impacts, okay.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Removal of any portion of a critical or significant wildlife
habitat. I think that's where it would be more appropriate, an answer about the plant life, Betty.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Wherever.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-What are we going to put there, large?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I thought of wild life, I was thinking of animal life.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-As I recall the Lupine patch was going to be avoided in the
development.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Not according to the letter from Kathy O'Brien. That's what she wanted to
be and she wanted some of those lot lines moved, I don't think the developer did that.
SUPERVISOR CHAMP AGNE-I think I remember that being done.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-The only Lupine patch was found on the proposed senior
housing site.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-That's the only one.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-I think you have to disclose that you went over there and walked it and you
yourself found the Lupine.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Is there any consensus opinion on small to moderate,
potentially large?
COUNCILMAN TURNER-Small to moderate, I would say.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-That would be my response. I thought that was done and over with when
the gal from DEC made the presentation. There was some changes in the design of the project satisfied me.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Let's leave that we'll come back to it. After we get done we'll ask the
developer if there were changes done.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Application of pesticide or herbicide more than twice a year,
other than for agricultural purposes.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Are we talking about on lawns? We are we talking about doing this Jim?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I think that question is meant directly towards if this was like
some sort of commercial gardening operation or something like that where they did apply. I don't know if
it's been part of the project if there is any indication that it will be part of the project to apply herbicides and
pesticides.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-If we're talking on people's lawn we don't know what they are going to do.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-That's my point exactly some people do some, some people
don't, I couldn't tell you.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT -Jim I would have to disagree with you. I believe it would have to do with
lawns because there is another category that's says agriculture land resources. If the pesticides and that
were coming under agriculture wouldn't that come under that category?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-It says other than ag purposes obviously.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I don't know how you would gauge if someone puts fertilizer
on their lawns or not in residential developments.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Even if they do, the question here is will it have an impact on plants and
animals. It may make the plants grow better that's the impact, right?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Not a herbicide.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Well not a herbicide.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Mark can you fill any light on that question the intent of that question.
TOWN COUNSEL, MARK SCHACHNER-No. I've certainly seen lead agencies interpreted to refer to
residential lawns, but I don't think there is any guidance anywhere in any SEQRA law, regulation, cases,
that I'm familiar with that clarifies that. I think that Environmental Assessment Forms have a lot of parts
that are very poorly written and that's a good example.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-We certainly don't know who is going to apply it, I guess we put a don't
know, how do we know.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-You have to answer it one way or the other.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-We can't answer what we don't know.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-How are you going to know Betty?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-We don't know.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-How would you know?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-You wouldn't so I don't think you can.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-Why would you ask that question if they didn't expect an answer.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I believe they ask the question because there is a potential
environmental impact associated with that if it is applied.
TOWN COUNSEL-There are some types of projects where you would clearly know the answer.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Like a golf course or something like that.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I'm going to vote for small to moderate.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Consensus opinion on that?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Check with Jim Girard or someone who is in the business. I don't think to
many of us today go out today and spray pesticides and herbicides more than twice a year. What's the
opinion?
COUNCILMAN PULVER-Small to moderate.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-Small to moderate.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Small to moderate. 9. Will proposed action substantially
affect non-threatened or non-endangered species? Examples that would apply. Proposed action would
substantially interfere with any resident or migratory fish, shellfish or wildlife species?
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action requires the removal of more than 10 acres of
mature forest (over 100 years of age) or other locally important vegetation. Mature forest is that which is
over a 100 years of age.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-So the answer to number nine is no?
TOWN BOARD-Yes.
IMP ACT ON AGRICULTURAL LAND RESOURCES
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Will the proposed action affect agricultural land resources?
TOWN BOARD-No.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I don't even think we need to the questions under that.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I don't either.
IMP ACT ON AESTHETIC RESOURCES
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-II. Will proposed action affect aesthetic resources? Examples
would include. Proposed land uses, or project components obviously different from or in sharp contrast to
current surrounding land use patterns, whether man-made or natural.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed land uses, or project components visible to users of
aesthetic resources which will eliminate or significantly reduce their enjoyment of the aesthetic qualities of
that resource.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Project components that will result in the elimination or
significant screening of scenic views known to be important to the area.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Number eleven then is no?
TOWN BOARD-Yes.
IMP ACT ON HISTORIC AND ARCHAEOLOGICAL RESOURCES
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-12. Will proposed action impact any site or structure of
historic, pre-historic or paleontological importance?
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT -No.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Wait a minute, I think you've got to say yes, you are going to have
mitigation.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-They took those out of the sites.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-It's still in the site. It is still in the acreage that they are turning in for the
PUD and for the rezoning, but they are going to mitigate it by the fact that they've gone around it.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Let me go through the examples. Proposed action occurring
wholly or partially within or substantially contiguous to any facility or site listed on the State or National
Register of historic places.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Any impact to an archaeological site or fossil bed located
within the project site.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-There is one there, but they are mitigating it by going around it so I'm not
quite sure how to answer that.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Would you want to say small to moderate then yes, can impact
be mitigated by project change would that reflect.....
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-The project hasn't changed.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-The project doesn't need to be changed because it's already set up to do that.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-If you remember way in an earlier design......
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-We're talking about the present design that's in front of us now. I think
what I would do, I would answer that no, but I would put an explanation right there that the project has
been designed to protect and to put in the conservation space it's archaeological sites. Mark do you agree
with what I'm doing?
TOWN COUNSEL-That's fine. It's perfectly appropriate to add some discussion next to one of the items
even if the answer is no.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-We'll indicate no with a typed asterisk to the effect of what
Betty, I think that statement is sufficient.
IMPACT ON OPEN SPACE AND RECREATION
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Will proposed action affect the quantity or quality of existing
or future open spaces or recreational opportunities?
TOWN BOARD-No.
IMP ACT ON CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL AREAS
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Will propose action impact the exceptional or unique
characteristics of a critical environmental area (CEA) established pursuant to subdivision 6 NYCRR
6l7.l4(g). List the environmental characteristics that caused the designation of the CEA. I went back and
referenced the resolution that enacted this particular critical environmental area that the project lies
partially within. I had them noted as; (1) The natural beauty. (2) It serves as a headwaters for Glen Lake.
(3) Sensitivity to intensity ofland use. (4) Preservation of Rush Pond water quality. (5) Preservation of
Glen Lake water quality. I attached those to my memo that I sent to you on August 1st, the memo. That
resolution was attached in its entirety if you want to reference. I'll read that just in full the resolve clause of
that resolution. It says, Resolved, the Town Board finds as follows Rush Pond is a unique pond and
wetland area of undisturbed natural beauty. (2) Rush Pond serves as the headwaters of Glen Lake which is
prized residential an area for the residents of the Town of Queensbury. (3) Rush Pond in the area here in
above described have remained opened undeveloped and could be adversely affected by any change in use
or intensity of use. (4) The quality of the water within Rush Pond could be adversely affected by any
change. (5) The quality of water within Glen Lake could be adversely affected by any change within the
Rush Pond area described above. Do you want to continue through the examples?
TOWN BOARD-Yes.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action to locate within the CEA? I think that's clear
that it is.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-How many?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Wholly or partially thirty lots.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-All single family right?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN -Yes. It was a typical site section plan submitted to demonstrate
how those lots would be developed along that area of the project. In terms of that proposed action to locate
within the CEA do you term that small to moderate or potentially large?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-If the engineering studies that we have got are correct, I would call it small
to moderate.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action will result in a reduction in the quantity of the
resources.....
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Wait a minute, Jim. I think we can say not can impact be mitigated by
project change. I think there we say it's been mitigated by the design of the development of the lots is that
how I should say it?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I think that says it.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-How are we going to handle this are we going to foot note this?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Yes. Proposed action will result in a reduction in the quantity
of the resource? I think the principal resource here being protected is the wetland area itself.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-There is no development in the wetland per say.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-No.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Then that's the answer to that. It's no because there is no development in
the wetland or land immediately adjacent to it, correct?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-It depends on what you consider the land immediately adjacent
to it. There is a five hundred foot distance from the elevation. I think it's the fourth hundred and thirty foot
elevation, yes. It is within that five hundred feet of the four hundred and thirty foot elevation.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-When I'm using the word wetland, I'm using the actual wetland.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-There is no development in the actual wetland.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Or the land immediately adjacent to the actual wetland.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-So small to moderate?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I think Betty is saying the proposed action to locate with a
CEA is small to moderate, we did the foot note. The next one proposed action will result in a reduction in
the quantity of the resource are you saying small to moderate?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I'm just saying no. The reason is because there is no development. It is in
the quantity of the resource and I consider the quantity is the wetland itself.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-You would qualify that as small to moderate wouldn't you?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-No, because I said no in the first place and then I gave an explanation why I
said no.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action will result in a reduction of the quality of the
resource?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Again, no. I'm going by the engineering studies that the applicant has
submitted.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Is that an agreement?
TOWN BOARD-Yes.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action will impact the use, function or enjoyment of
the resource.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Agreement on that?
TOWN BOARD-Yes.
IMPACT ON TRANSPORTATION
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Will there be an effect to existing transportation systems?
TOWN BOARD-Yes.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Examples would include. Alternation of present patterns of
movement of people and/or goods.
TOWN BOARD-Yes.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Would you list that as small to moderate or potentially large?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I'd list it as small to moderate.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Consensus on that small to moderate?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Small to moderate. Are you small to moderate Ted?
COUNCILMAN TURNER-Yes.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Carol, are you small to moderate?
COUNCILMAN PULVER-Yes.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action will result in major traffic problems.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Yes.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Small to moderate or potentially large?
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-I would like to know how you define major.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Unfortunately it is discretionary and judgmental to you as the
Lead Agency. All I can do is direct you in your minds to refer to the traffic study and what you know of
the corridor itself.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-Which was twenty cars a year.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-The impact of the traffic problem right now isn't addressed by the addition of
the three lanes on the modification of Aviation Road already that was just done this summer. That is not
going to...............
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Again, I would direct you to three sources. The Traffic Study,
your personal knowledge of the traffic patterns in those systems, and the public comment given to date.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-The Traffic Study was done without any consideration to what has been done
to Aviation Road.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-That's right.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-And without any consideration to the bridge, correct.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-You can't consider the bridge because the bridge isn't done so far it's only
on paper.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-You can only consider what's existing now?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-What's existing right this minute.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-The existing transportation systems.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I think that needs to be defined. We really need to sit down and put this in
writing I believe. Whether you identified it as potential large impact and then Part III further detail and
explain, I think that's probably the best source of action. Part III must be prepared if one or more impacts
considered potentially large.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-That's correct. Is there a consensus.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I think that's going to have to be addressed in a Part III.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-We're saying proposed action will result in major traffic
problem is potentially large?
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-If you have to only go with what exists there now. We can't take the bridge
and the realigning ofFarr Lane and Dixon Road into our thinking then it has to be large because it puts an
intersection that's poor to a fail. If we can take and put in what we have planned in the future into that then
it might change that.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-It may be able to be mitigated.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-That's right.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-That's my point. We can prove that we've identified ways and means of
correcting that action then I think it would appropriate to do that. Right now according to that study total
traffic after build-out, I think the study reported in the morning thirty vehicles per hour, in the afternoon
peak time would be thirty three vehicles.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT -Is that complete build-out that you have?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-That's what it says here.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-It's more than that.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT -Eighty cars at peak hour at complete build-out.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Okay.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-The consensus on that is potentially large?
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-It's got to be if we can't put what we have planned into.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I'll give you one shot Mike.
ATTORNEY O'CONNOR-When you talk about existing system, I would refer to counsel. You are looking
at the total impact at build-out. You should be looking and comparing it with what are the reasonable
existing systems in place or what you expect to be in place at that time. I think it is appropriate of you to
think of the three lanes, the bridge. You are talking about the year 2003 which is the worse case scenario
that was filled out by Traffic Study and you are suppose to be looking at what is the existing system at that
time. I would refer to counsel on that, I'm not trying to give you advise.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I think that comes under Part III.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Any other impact on transportation before we leave it?
Anyone have anything else on transportation?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-What else can there be.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I think that pretty much sums it up.
IMP ACT ON ENERGY
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-16. Will proposed action affect the community's source of fuel,
or energy supply?
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT -No.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-No.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Wait a minute. What does that second example there mean Jim? Proposed
action will require the creation or extension of an energy transmission or supply system to serve more than
50 single or two family residences.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I think it certainly qualifies.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-That has to be a small to moderate right there.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-So it's yes to number sixteen, and small to moderate to the
second bullet.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Small to moderate. But, I don't find that as a big problem.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-It does trip the threshold.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-The developer will be putting in that so I think that's the answer that you put
there.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Does everyone agree that it's small to moderate to the bottom
of page ten?
TOWN BOARD-Yes.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Then you put another asterisk that the developer will be responsible for
extending service.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR MR. MARTIN-Sixteen is yes, small to moderate under the second bullet?
TOWN BOARD-Yes.
NOISE AND ODOR IMP ACTS
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-17. Will there be objectionable odors, noise, or vibration as a
result of the proposed action?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Let's do the question.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Blasting within 1,500 feet of a hospital, school or other
sensitive facility.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-As far as I know they don't intend to blast.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Odors will occur routinely (more than one hour per day).
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action will produce operating noise exceeding the
local ambient noise levels for noise outside of structures.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-We don't have a noise ordinance so we don't know.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Temporary, but that's all during the building process.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action will remove natural barriers that would act as a
nOIse screen.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-No.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT -I put yes.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Some of the neighbors have raised that yes, but I'm not sure if that's true
because of the no cut zones that we left there.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-I believe it would be small to moderate. If you are talking about using the
trees along there as a buffer from the Northway and you are taking some of those down then you have to
have a change. I believe it's small to moderate because I don't believe that the area when I'm out there at
the Little League field you don't hear a lot of noise from the Northway.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Okay, then small to moderate under that fourth bullet. So that
means we're saying yes to number seventeen.
IMP ACT ON PUBLIC HEALTH
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Will proposed action affect public health and safety?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Let's do the questions Jim.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Examples. Proposed action may cause a risk of explosion or
release of hazardous substances (i.e. oil, pesticides, chemicals, radiation, etc.) in the event of accident or
upset conditions, or there may be a chronic low level discharge or emission.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action may result in the burial of "hazardous wastes"
in any form (i.e. toxic, poisonous, highly radioactive, irritating, infectious, etc.)
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Storage facilities for one million or more gallons ofliquified
natural gas or other flammable liquids.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-The proposed action may result in the excavation or other
disturbance within 2,000 feet of a site used for the disposal of solid or hazardous waste.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Okay, then the answer to number eighteen is no.
TOWN BOARD-Right.
IMP ACT ON GROWTH AND CHARACTER OF COMMUNITY OR NEIGHBORHOOD
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN -19. Will proposed action affect the character of the existing
community?
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Yes.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Let's do the questions.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Examples would include. The permanent population of the
city, town or village in which the project is located is likely to grow by more than 5%.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-The municipal budget for capital expenditures or operating
services will increase by more than 5% per year as a result of this project.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-The municipal won't. Fred was going to do some research into whether or
not the school one would.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-No.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-We're you able to do that?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I talked to the school and I got their cost per student local share. Also
added into that State Aid using 1.5 children per household, no it would not have that large of an impact. It
will have an impact, but not major.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Not the five percent per year.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action will conflict with officially adopted plans or
goals.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-No.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-No.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-No.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT -I put yes.
COUNCILMAN PUL VER-I put no. Not according to all the research that we got from Jim.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Connie do why....
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-The reason why I put yes was in the Comprehensive Land Use that we have
now that is in effect now would have this area zoned as RR3.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-But that's not your Comprehensive Master Plan. That zoning is a separate
thing the reasoning is in the Master Plan. What reasoning did you pick up?
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-It is my question. The reasoning that I picked up was because it obviously is
a change into that plan.
COUNCILMAN PUL VER-I tend to agree with the staff comments on that.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT -It's not in conformance. Are you telling me to read more than one?
COUNCILMAN PULVER-Yes.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT -According to the staff notes it is not in conformance. The question was raised
before the staff off set it in their response.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-The staff feels that it is in conformance with the Master Plan and I agree
with the staff.
COUNCILMAN PUL VER-I do, too.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I've reached that conclusion before I read their notes.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-So that's a no?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-We have to get Connie comfortable with it.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-I'll go small to moderate.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Consensus on that?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I just don't feel that it's in any conflict with the Master Plan.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I don't either.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-No.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-Me neither.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I'm not talking about this. I'm talking about the Master Plan.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I guess we've got consensus here.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action will cause a change in the density ofland use.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Yes.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-Yes.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Small to moderate or potentially large.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Excuse me Jim what question are we on?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action will cause a change in the density ofland use?
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Yes.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Small to moderate or potentially large?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-It has to be large if you are going to do a ratio proportion to what's allowed
now.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Agreement on that potentially large?
TOWN BOARD-Yes.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action will replace or eliminate existing facilities,
structures or areas of historic importance to the community.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Development will create a demand for additional community
services (e.g.. schools, police, and fire etc.)
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Yes.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Yes.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-But, the school has said no impact. There may be a demand down the road, but
for this particular project. Jim what does the letter say from the school, I just asked you for a copy of that
tonight.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-It's in our stuff and I've read it. There will be an impact. You can't have
that many houses with 1.5 kids and not have an impact.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I just wanted to go through some statistics that might give you
some guidance. The average household size in Queensbury is 2.72 persons per household. If you, I tried to
be conservative with this, if you were to assume all households even the senior housing to be in that range
the overall project population at full build-out will be 517 persons.
Now, again applying some statistics here according to the overall census of population for the Town in
1990, and acknowledge that's been disputed sometimes by its overall total, but we'll go with it is 22,630
persons. According to the 1990 census, 25.9 percent is less than 18 years old. If you were to apply that
same percentage to this population of this project that would mean you would have 134 persons under 18
years of age in this project.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-At full build-out.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-That's assuming we were to say even the dwelling units within
the senior housing project were 2.72 persons which is probably in-conservative.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT -High.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Yes.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-But, you have a hundred thirty four under the age of eighteen that's four
classrooms at least.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-A hundred thirty four, but you got to take out of that the zero to five year
old, too.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Exactly. I didn't have that fine of a breakdown in my
categories.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-So you are talking six. If you take six of that one thirty four.....
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I think it's clear that the project is going to demand greater
servIce.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-It's going to have a demand. I think it's small to moderate.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Is there a consensus opinion on that?
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-I think it is small to moderate.
COUNCILMAN TURNER-Yeah.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action will set an important precedent for future
projects.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Proposed action will create or eliminate employment.
TOWN BOARD-No.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Any other impacts associated with the impact on the growth
and character of the community or neighborhood? So we have yes to number nineteen then. I have just to
recap. Potentially large on proposed action will cause a change in the density of land use. Development
will create a demand for additional community services as small to moderate. 20. Is there, or is there likely
to be, public controversy related to potential adverse environmental impacts.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-That's a yes.
PART III
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-This is to be prepared if one or more of the impacts is
considered to be potentially large. A recap of the form so far indicates that we have two. One is the impact
on growth and character of the community or neighborhood. One under impact on transportation.
Proposed action will result in major traffic problems those are the two I have.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-We need to talk to our engineer about a couple of the others.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I have three questions. The first one is impact on water.
Proposed action will adversely affect groundwater, there was a question on that. I have more on the next
page, page eight.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-On the sewer, too. We have one proposed action will allow residential uses
in areas without sewer.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I had that listed as small to moderate is that incorrect?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-No. I'm just saying the septic systems were something we wanted our
engineer to give us a little more guidance on than what he did.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I'm just trying to summarize what we had outstanding
questions on. The first one was under the bullets in question five, page seven. Proposed action will
adversely affect groundwater there is a question on that. On the next page under impact on plants and
animals.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Wait a minute, Jim on the top of page eight. When we're giving directions to
the engineer, I think we need to also recheck make sure that those drainage patterns as submitted to us, you
know is there any question about questions that have been raised about that. We just want to make sure
that we're doing our homework on that.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Under eight. I had the two bullets there as a question.
Reduction of one or more species listed on the New York or Federal list. Removal of any portion of a
critical or significant wildlife habitat.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I think this is where we have to ask the question of the developer. There is
Blue Lupine on that site on the north side of the runway. I don't know what the final use of that particular
land is going to be. I did not walk the whole site, I did see that part.
ATTORNEY O'CONNOR-For the purpose of the record there are a number ofletters, I'm Mike O'Connor,
there are a number ofletters from Kathy O'Brien. The one, I think was April 30th, 1996.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-That's correct.
ATTORNEY O'CONNOR-That particular letter seems to disagree with what you are saying.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-In what respect?
ATTORNEY O'CONNOR-Let me read into it and then away from it so I don't catch the wrong sentence.
Mr. O'Connor has told me that my January letter to you has been misconstrued by some individuals as to
the presence of Karner Blues on the site. I will try to clarify our view on the project. The area the project
is in was once home to a Karner Blue population. That population no longer exists on the site of the
subdivision. Development and natural succession has destroyed all by a renmant of the native vegetation
which would have supported this population some of which exists within the proposed subdivision.
Vegetation typical of a Karner Blue site (i.e. Butterfly Weed, New Jersey Tea, Little Blue Stem Grass, etc.)
still exist on the site. But, the Blue Lupine has all but died out of the area. The only patch of Lupine
known in the immediate area of the project is located outside of the boundaries of the present housing
development proposal. That was based upon site visitation by this Kathy O'Brien with parts of the
Development Team which located on the site the actual boundaries with relationship to the physical
monuments that were on the site. But, I'm not necessarily saying that we haven't taken that into
consideration. If you look at what we have offered as part of the Developers Agreement we have indicated
there and to the person who is going to sponsor or perhaps build the senior citizen complex. The developer
of that area will be required by the Town to set aside a portion of the area for reestablishment of Karner
Blue Butterfly habitat in conjunction with New York State Environmental Conservation recommendation.
That was on page 21, paragraph 10. I don't have my latest copy of the Development Agreement by to Mr.
Martin before the meeting began. But, I think that language is still in there. The intention is that this
project as designed will try to reestablish that Karner Blue Butterfly habitat, if you will even though it's
gone as part of the project design. It would be in the area that is set aside for the projected senior citizen
development. As, I understand it we would file this Developers Agreement as a Restricted Covenant it
would run with the land. It would bind whoever came into that portion of the project. If somebody new
were introduced to try and come on board for the senior citizen they would have notice and they would be
required to comply with the wishes of the Town Board. The present person who has shown an interest in
this site for senior citizen housing the National Counsel of Churches is aware of it, and has agreed to it, and
has said that there is no problem. They in fact and perhaps without, maybe this board is not aware of it
have in fact sent to us recently a option form to indicate that they are immediately ready to go forward with
an application for funding if the approvals are present or given.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-For the record, I don't believe that's National Counsel of Churches it's
National Churches Residences.
ATTORNEY O'CONNOR-I didn't read that whole letter, but I think Kathy O'Brien agreed with that
discussion. We just didn't think it was appropriate to try and work something out with her until we know
where we're going with everything else.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Okay, then I think what you do is you answer that question that there is.
Those sites maybe damage that are there now, but the mitigation of it is a reestablishment of the site on the
property that will be done for senior housing.
ATTORNEY O'CONNOR-If you look at the bullets there it says, will proposed action affect any
threatened or endangered species. Then you go down, it says reduction of one or more species listed. I
don't know of anything on the site that is listed. I don't think that Butterfly Weed that is spoken of is either
an endangered or threatened species.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-You could be right it's a protected one.
ATTORNEY O'CONNOR-There is a separate list for protected.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-You're right.
ATTORNEY O'CONNOR-I think the answer there is no. Then the next bullet is removal of any portion of
a critical or significant wildlife habitat we weren't even talking about that. I actually think the answer to
that is no even though we as part of our design have offered to try and reestablish what was apparently one
time a Karner Blue habitat.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I think I would be a little more comfortable if we did some kind of a
detailed answer there so if anytime our work on this is questioned we were aware of that and we answered
that question. You know, that there are Blue Lupine there apparently no Blue Karner Butterfly, but the
habitat will try to be reestablished.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-You get into the reversibility of the impact.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Part III, I frankly think that this is something staff should be working up for
us and bring back to us in a workshop. It should not be done at the top of our heads.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Just before we leave question eight, I want to be clear as to
where we're going. Reduction of one or more species listed on the New York or Federal list, using the site,
over or near site or found on the site that would be no?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I think I would skip right down to other impacts.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-So list nothing under the provided examples. But, other
impacts....
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I think I would do the other impacts and say that according to quoting the
letter there while the plants are there apparently the butterfly is not. Habitat for the butterfly will try to be
reestablished on the land that will be conveyed for senior housing.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-What's the date of that letter Mike?
ATTORNEY O'CONNOR-I have an extra copy, April 30th, 1996.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Is everyone comfortable with that?
TOWN BOARD-That's fine.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Tell me Jim what did we arrive at for number eight?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-There is nothing under any of the examples. Then we come to
other impacts the last bullet then we're going to say, according to the DEC letter of April 30th, 1996
attempts will be made to reestablish habitat for Karner Blue Butterfly.
ATTORNEY O'CONNOR-Why don't you use the language out of the proposed Developers Agreement.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Then you would tie everything together in the same language.
ATTORNEY O'CONNOR-It was paragraph ten, page twenty one. It was bullet ten, page twenty one, first
paragraph.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Language from Developers Agreement then?
TOWN BOARD-Yes.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-So then we still have two potentially large under traffic and
under impact on growth and character.
TOWN BOARD-Yes.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Part III the instruction is....
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Prepare our answers to that.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Prepare our draft answer.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Be ready to go over them in our workshop. We won't officially adopt them,
but we need to see if we agree with your answers.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I'll try and get them to you before then. I'll try and get them to
you as early as Wednesday if I can in a draft.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-In the meantime we have to look at our engineer report.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-We have fifteen, nineteen, and twenty are the three that we're going to be
looking at is that right.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I have nineteen. Twenty, that question I believe was designed
that way on purpose. There is no gage of impact there it is simply yes or no. So, I have nineteen and
fifteen as the two that have to go to Part III.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Then we have one that the engineer is going to review, correct?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I have to get some confirmation for you. I have even have Bill
Levandowski present at your workshop also.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I would like to have something available at that point.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Something in writing prior to that, but I can have him there if
there are any remaining questions if you would like him present.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-We need him for groundwater, septic, and drainage.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Okay.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-I'd like to know where we stand now?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-The staff has to prepare the answers which we will look at in workshop. If
we agree with those answers we would continue this at the next real board meeting.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Regular meeting.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-And go on with either the approval or the disapproval for the rezoning and
the PUD.
ATTORNEY SCHACHNER-I don't think Betty meant to skip over this. But, first you would make your
SEQRA determination.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-That's what I meant.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-When is that going to be made?
ATTORNEY SCHACHNER-That's up to the board that could be made any anytime, but it has to include
the Part III which is the evaluation of the importance of the impact identified in your review of Part II. It
has to happen first then you decide whether you read what's called the Negative Declaration which is a
decision not to require preparation of an Environmental Impact Statement. What's called a Positive
Declaration which is a decision to require the preparation of an Environmental Impact Statement. That
determination has to be made before you go to the approval steps or denial steps.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT -Are we going to do that at the workshop?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I would say we would just evaluate staff answers and see if we got them
there. But, as far as formally acting on it, I don't think it is proper to do it except in a Regular Town Board
Meeting. The reason we would look at it in a workshop to see if they have done a complete job and that
we're in agreement with.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I just want to be clear that I don't want these things to get
tagged staffs answers these are your answers. I will draft responses for you and if you like them, don't like
them, throw them all out, I'll do my best to try and put something together that reflects what you as a lead
agent have said tonight. If it's not to your likening then you go through it and throw it all out and we'll try
again, change part of it or whatever. It's your answers I'm just trying to commit it to writing.
ATTORNEY SCHACHNER-That's critical and I'd like to echo that and say that if any board members
have their own proposed write ups of Part III you can present those that's fine. It ultimately is the board's
decision as the SEQRA Lead Agency.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I didn't mean to say that any different Jim that's why we need a workshop to
see if we're in agreement with what you are doing.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-I just wanted to clarify that.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Any other concerns? Mike did you have a comment?
ATTORNEY O'CONNOR-I have one question. I don't know if you agreed with my comment or not. Are
you going to get guidance also as to what is existing transportation facilities that you make your
comparison too?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I think that in our Part III description and plans for the future some of that
is going to have to be brought back in.
ATTORNEY SCHACHNER-I think the answer is that Part III is evaluation of the importance of impacts as
it regards transportation should it include discussion of both scenarios. The scenario of the existing
transportation system if there are no improvements and certainly it is reasonable to include discussion of
the transportation system if the improvements that are contemplated are made.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Okay, thanks. Anything else from the board?
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Have we've got the engineer report in reference to Phase II of Aviation Road?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Yes.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Anything else from the board?
ATTORNEY MATTERS
TOWN COUNSEL, MR. SCHACHNER-Noted he needs to have an Executive Session.
OPEN FORUM 9: 15 P.M.
JOHN SCHRElNER-Dunham's Bay, Lake George. Spoke to the Board regarding a letter at a Town Board
Meeting stating that he requested that the Board put out a written notice. Received copy of minutes noting
that it says, Councilman Caimano requested that Dunham's Bay Boat Company be notified in writing.
Requested he would like this clarified.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Noted at the meeting to be held Wednesday night Dunham's
Bay Boat Company will be present he will correct this error.
MR. SCHREINER-Spoke to the board regarding a complaint he made regarding the Dunham's Bay Boat
Company parking vehicles. Noted two days later the light he complained about last year was turned back
on did speak to owner of Dunham's Bay regarding problem. Requested that the board adopt a Ordinance
regarding lighting.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Noted he thought he would wait until the meeting on
Wednesday to take this issue up.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-Hopes that this could be worked out with the boat company. Part of the
planning process when any new commercial business comes into town is the staff and planning always
looks at the impacts of the lighting.
DICK & KA THY GRAY -Full time residents Town of Queensbury, home is on Pilot Knob Road. Spoke to
the board noting that this is the second summer season that they are encountering a situation where the
Town Code Enforcement Officer, Dave Hatin, found that his neighbor who abuts his property at the shore
of Lake George has a failed septic system. The town performed a test on the system owned by John
Serbalik one year ago. They found that feces were floating across the floor of his basement into a sump
hole. In the sump hole was a sump pump, the pump was pumping this sewage to an unknown location.
Noted this is a very serious public health issue. Has testified in court regarding this proceeding where Mr.
Serbalik continues to occupy his home in violation of summons that have been given to him that he is not
to occupy his dwelling until his corrects his failed septic system. Mr. Serbalik has a permit to build an
above ground holding tank has had the permit for an extended period of time he has yet to build the holding
tank. Noted this is an inconvenience to himself and family. Noted this is the second season they are
prevented from using their recreational facilities as a result of an individual who continues to occupy his
premises in direct violation of the town. Requested that the Town do something about this situation.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Did make a site visit up there since that time have followed the
proceedings in terms of the court action. Understands thoroughly, asked Town Counsel what the next step
in terms of what the board may be able to do?
TOWN COUNSEL, MR. SCHACHNER-The Town Court action is still pending is likely to have it's final
day in court tomorrow afternoon, does not expect a decision tomorrow afternoon, but it will be the
conclusion of the testimony and argument. Any further legal strategy or options in terms of litigation
involving the Serbalik situation is one of the two topics to be discussed in Executive Session.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Noted that the board does realize the seriousness of the situation.
JOHN SALVADOR, DUNHAM'S BAY-Noted that the New York State Health Department has an office
on Bay Street they would have jurisdiction in this matter. Spoke to the board regarding some filling being
done at the Harris Bay Yacht Club. Noted he is expecting a letter from Code Compliance Officer, John
Goralski regarding situation.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Noted his understanding of the nature of the gravel being
placed in this situation is filling of pot holes in the parking lot of the Harris Bay Yacht Company. It has
been his determination that this represents repair and maintenance, noting if Mr. Salvador is not in
agreement with this he can appeal it.
MR. SALVADOR-Spoke to the board regarding an article he read in the newspaper about doing a
Supplemental EIS on the North Queensbury Wastewater Project. Asked if the board if they have a
statement from the consultant outlining their reasons?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Noted he doesn't have an answer to this should contact Bill Lamy, the
County, and O'Brien and Gere.
MR. SALVADOR-Questioned if Supervisor Champagne was in agreement that we are going to move
ahead with the Supplemental EIS.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Absolutely.
MR. SALVADOR-Questioned when the Scoping Session is going to be held?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Does not know recommended contacting Mr. Geiss at O'Brien and Gere.
MR. SALVADOR-Spoke to the board regarding stormwater and the Froehlich Foundation Grant in North
Queensbury. Sent the board a copy of a letter that was sent to Paul Naylor, Highway Superintendent this
past week pointing out the requirements of the law. (Read law to board)
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-To research the law further.
MR. SALVADOR-Noted the Froehlich Foundation Grant is being used on Mason Road due to Supervisor
Champagne's recommendation. As of the result of the work done by the Stormwater Advisory Board the
road is number four on the list of nine priority items, noting there are other roads in North Queensbury that
have been identified as problem areas that are not Town roads. The grant money could be used in
conjunction with State money, or County money to do improvements. Asked the board to reconsider the
one on Route 9L, it's number two on the list.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Noted it is number four on the list but the list is not meant to
represent any prioritization. It is fourth on the list of a group of what was termed first tier problems. The
timing of the grant given the grant funding round came available prior to us really getting our teeth into
Stormwater Plan.
MR. SALVADOR-Noted the grant should pay all of the cost the taxpayers of the Town of Queensbury
should not bear the burden of any cost associated with any stormwater improvement in a road by use.
MR. SALVADOR-Spoke to the board regarding Fuller Road, noting the public at large has an interest in
what happens up there. Spoke to the board regarding the appointment of Lewis Stone to the Zoning Board
of Appeals, believes Mr. Stone has a gross conflict of interest. Noted he is on the Executive Board of the
Lake George Association.
MR. LEWIS STONE-Noted the use of the word, Froehlich Foundation money reflect that it was obtained
by the Lake George Association for use within the Lake George Basin not just Queensbury, but all over the
lake. Thanked the board for his appointment to the Zoning Board of Appeals.
LIZ VALENTE, QUEENSBURY-Noted a couple of years ago she came before the Town Board with a
letter regarding a situation they were drawn into because of zoning and planning it was based on the
supposition that he owned a piece of land and he had a Quit Claims Deeds. Asked at that time that the
town would put in place some kind of protection for any other citizen to protect someone who owns a piece
of land having someone else come in with a Quit Claim Deed asked the status of this.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Haven't done anything in a form of a law, noting they are more
sensitive to the applications that come in and the proof of ownership.
TOWN COUNSEL, MR. SCHACHNER-Whether you have Title Insurance or not it does not strictly relate
to what type of deed you are taking property by. Would not recommend that any board in any municipality
require that an applicant demonstrate that they have Title Insurance to their property in order to submit an
application. Doesn't think it is appropriate to put the Town, Staff, or any Planning Board, Zoning Board of
Appeals, Town Counsel in the position of having to verify the accuracy with the validity of real property
documents that are submitted by applicants.
PAUL ABESS, QUEENSBURY -Spoke to the board regarding the Indian Ridge Development. Asked
Councilman Goedert, Supervisor Champagne if there is something the Town gets by having the
development there? Is there something the constituents get out of having the development, does it do
something to Queensbury?
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Noted they have taken the steps that she believes they would have taken with
any development. In doing that it has been a long process that the developer has had to go through.
Believes she has taken part in the steps that need to be taken to come to a yes or no vote, which they haven't
come to yet. Doesn't believe she has helped the developer. Doesn't think it is a question of helping the
developer. Believes she has got information so she can make the decision that has to be made.
MR. ABESS-Noted by reading the articles in the newspaper there has been objections raised by numerous
people at the various meetings that have been held. It seems like the opinion of the board the way it has
been reported it that it is going to happen.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-Noted from the people that are writing against the project.
MR. ABESS-Questioned if there is something from a development like this that it is worth rezoning? Do
most of the developments require rezoning?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Noted all Planned Unit Developments require rezoning. Noted
it has been a year and a half review time on this project, doesn't feel like they are racing with this. Noted
there was a Town wide rezoning done eight months prior to the adoption of the Comprehensive Plan that is
a fundamental problem how the course of things happened here. Noted that the adopted plan is a little out
of step with the current feelings in the community on a number of different topics.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Read an article entitled Economics of Preserving Open Space.
MR. ABESS-Wishes that other people would be able to hear comments, too.
TOWN BOARD-In agreement.
MR. ABESS-Spoke to the board regarding the dumping that has occurred on Clendon Brook Road, up
Butler Road, up of Buckee Road. Two years ago contacted Jim Coughlin, Landfill Superintendent and the
summer employment kids to clean it up. Noted this year the situation is worse. Went through the garbage
found name contacted Sheriffs Department and DEC nothing happened. Contacted Jim Coughlin three
days ago, had it picked up the next day. Commended the board for the having the program and Jim
Coughlin for being responsive and receptive to the situation. Spoke to the board regarding Fuller Road.
Noting he plans on bringing more than one hundred people to a future board meeting to show that it is not
dying out. (Presented the board with a synopsis of the Highway Law)
BERNARD RAHILL, Queensbury. Spoke to the board in support of their appointment of Mr. Lewis
Stone, to the ZBA. Read an article he submitted to the newspaper entitled: Supervisors Must Share the
Planning of New Housing Construction in the Glens Falls Region. (On file Town Clerk's Office)
JAN ASTROM, QUEENSBURY, WESTLAND AVENUE, QUEENSBURY-Spoke to the board regarding
the proposed Indian Ridge Development and the EIS, noted his opposition to this.
BARBARA BENNETT, QUEENSBURY-Spoke to the board regarding the resolution pertaining to the
changing the Election Law. Questioned what specifically is going to be change?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-This came about when the vote went on for the Ward System. Noted that
now they are in the situation where the people will have a chance to vote on the North Queensbury Sewer
District. When these type of districts came along the people that could vote were property owners. The
way the law was on the books some property owners wouldn't be able to vote. Now they have gone back to
the State Rules and Regulations where property owners will vote and if you are a corporation who owns
land then the corporation would get one vote.
MRS. BENNETT-Questioned if this is just for special districts?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Saying that anyone who owns property and whoever name is on the deed
and they live in North Queensbury they should have the right and privilege to vote.
MRS. BENNETT-Spoke to the board regarding Round Pond, noting that she hopes the Town would always
keep their eye on it. If the opportunity presents itself it would be a valuable asset to the Town.
MR. STONE-Spoke to the board regarding the Indian Ridge Development. Noted that his perception of
this by listening to the questions and statements that the board made he came away with exactly the same
conclusion that we're going in one direction and going there fast, noted the board should think about this.
PLINEY TUCKER, QUEENSBURY-Questioned the status of the landfill?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Noted there was a washout over there and it still continues to be a problem.
It has been redesigned the engineers have gone back to DEC and DEC has rejected the original design.
They've gone back to the do some revised plans we still don't have DEC approval as to how they are going
to proceed to complete it.
MR. TUCKER-Questioned if the rest of the landfill can be mowed?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Noted this is all within the contract that they have with the engineers.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-It is being discussed right at the moment because our consultant feels it is
time to mow.
MR. TUCKER-Questioned the status Town Park at Hudson River?
Asked if the town is going to lose the grant money?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Noted from his conversation with DEC and Harold Hagemann that they
will continue to keep the door open to do what we have to do even following that date.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-As long as were making progress.
MR. TUCKER-Spoke to the board regarding the road conditions along Western Avenue.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Noted he is working on this problem.
MR. TUCKER-Spoke to the board regarding the sewer on Bay Road, questioned the cost of the study?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Have allocated $8,500 to date have spent around $5,500.
MR. TUCKER-Spoke to the board regarding an article in the newspaper regarding the opinion by the
County Attorney that the County could charge all the taxpayers......
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Noted he has a written opinion from Paul Dusek on this.
MR. TUCKER-Questioned what the Highway Department is doing on Garrison Road?
COUNCILMAN TURNER-Putting in new sidewalks, new drainage, new blacktop on the road.
MR. TUCKER-Questioned whose sidewalks they are?
COUNCILMAN TURNER-The town.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-They are in the town right-a-way.
MR. TUCKER-Questioned if the money is coming out of the general fund?
COUNCILMAN TURNER-Yes.
MR. TUCKER-Noted if and when Indian Ridge Development gets built there is a law on the books that
they have to buy into the water plant. Questioned if this will be part of the finished package?
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MR. MARTIN-Will research this.
MR. TUCKER-Questioned how much has been spent on the sidewalks on Garrison Road?
COUNCILMAN TURNER-Noted $3,400, $3,500 so far.
MR. TUCKER-Questioned if they are putting sidewalks in the whole length of the road?
COUNCILMAN TURNER-No. Just fixing the ones that are in disrepair on both sides of the street.
CHARLES DEMARS, QUEENSBURY-Spoke to the board regarding Indian Ridge Development noting
that it probably will take as long as Hudson Point and the bottom line on Hudson Point is that it passed.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Noted that Hudson Point passed, but it passed with a lot different
configuration than what it was when they started working on the project. The end result was that there
were major changes in that development.
MR. DEMARS-Spoke to the board regarding the boat launch at Hudson River Park?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Are out for engineering studies. Goal is to complete the project as far as
the State Funding is concerned by the end of this year. If we are unable to expend all of the funding
available will ask the State to roll it over into January, the Spring of 1997.
MR. DEMARS-Spoke to the board regarding a counter on Big Boom Road. Questioned it was the State
that put it in or the Town?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Noted the Town doesn't have counting devices it would probably be the
State. Noted he did not receive any letters regarding this.
OPEN FORUM CLOSED 11 :00 P.M.
RESOLUTION ENTERING EXECUTIVE SESSION
RESOLUTION NO. 339,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from Regular Session and
enters into Executive Session to discuss one matter one matter pending litigation and one matter proposed
litigation.
Duly adopted this 5th day of August, 1996, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr.
Champagne
Noes: None
AbsentNone
RESOLUTION ADJOURNING EXECUTIVE SESSION
RESOLUTION NO. 340, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from Executive Session
and moves back into Regular Session
Duly adopted this 5th day of August, 1995, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr.
Champagne
Noes: None
AbsentNone
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING LEGAL ACTION AGAINST JOHN SERBALIK
RESOLUTION NO. 341,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
RESOLVED, that Town Counsel is authorized to commence civil action in Supreme Court against John
Serbalik seeking access to property for testing purposes and injunction if pollution is discovered.
Duly adopted this 8th day of August, 1996, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mr.
Champagne
Noes: None
AbsentNone
No further action taken.
On motion, the meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully Submitted,
Darleen M. Dougher
Town Clerk
Town of Queensbury