1996-12-23
SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING
DECEMBER 23, 1996
6:02 P.M.
MTG #54
RES525-545
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT
SUPERVISOR FRED CHAMPAGNE
COUNCILMAN BETTY MONAHAN
COUNCILMAN THEODORE TURNER
COUNCILMAN CONNIE GOEDERT
COUNCILMAN CAROL PULVER
TOWN COUNSEL
MARK SCHACHNER
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT
Paul Naylor, Highway Superintendent
Bill Burns, Comptroller
Jim Martin, Executive Director of Community Development
Pamela Martin, Legal Secretary
Supervisor Champagne called meeting to order ...
RESOLUTIONS
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING PURCHASE ORDERS
FOR PURCHASE OF DRAINAGE PIPE CLEANER FOR HIGHWAY DEPT.
AND MOWER FOR PINE VIEW CEMETERY
RESOLUTION NO. 525, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury has previously adopted purchasing procedures and in
accordance with said procedures, a contract in an amount of $5,000 or greater, up to New York State bidding limits, must
be approved by the Town Board before said contract is entered into, and
WHEREAS, the Highway Superintendent has proposed to purchase a drainage pipe cleaner from the City of Glens
Falls for an amount of $5,000, and
WHEREAS, the Cemetery Superintendent has proposed to purchase a turn mower from Bebout Ford Tractor, Inc.
in the amount of $5,930, as this amount was the lowest of all quotes obtained by the Cemetery Superintendent,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby approves the purchase of the drainage pipe cleaner referenced above to
be paid for from Account No. 04-5130-2020, and also approves the purchase of the turn mower referenced above to be paid
for from Account No. 02-8810-2001.
Duly adopted this 23rd day of December, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES : Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver,
Mr. Champagne
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AMENDING 1996 BUDGET
RESOLUTION NO. 526, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHEREAS, the Town Highway Department has performed certain services on behalf of the Town for which the
Town General Fund is remunerating the Highway Department, therefore the Town Board desires to increase estimated
revenues in the Highway Interfund Revenue Account by $3,500, and
WHEREAS, the Highway Department desires to purchase a drain cleaning machine and has inadequate
appropriations for such purchase, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board desires to use the increase in the Highway Interfund Revenues estimated revenues to
fund an increase of $3,500 in Highway Fund - Vehicles Account for the Highway Department's purchase of a drain
cleaning machine,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby approves, authorizes, and directs that the
1996 Budget be amended as follows:
1) Increase estimated revenues in the Highway Interfund Revenues Account No. 004-0004-2801 by $3,500;
2) Increase appropriations and estimated revenues in the Highway Fund by $3,500.
3) Increase appropriations in the Highway Fund Vehicles Account No. 04-5130-2020 by $3,500;
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the 1996 Town Budget is hereby amended accordingly.
Duly adopted this 23rd day of December, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan,
Mr. Champagne
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION TO AMEND 1996 BUDGET
RESOLUTION NO. 527,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHEREAS, said requests have been approved by the Chief Fiscal Officer,
WHEREAS, certain departments have requested transfers of funds for the 1996 Budget, and
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the funds be transferred as follows, for the
1996 budget:
CEMETERY:
FROM:
TO:
02-8810-2899
(Capital Construction)
02-8810-4110
(Vehicle Repair & Maintenance)
COMPTROLLER:
FROM:
TO:
01-1990-4400
(Contingency)
01-1670-2010
(Shared Mailings & Printing -
Office Equipment)
13,481.
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT:
FROM:
TO:
01-3410-4400
(Misc. Contractual)
01-3410-4820
(Uniforms)
PARKS & RECREATION:
FROM:
TO:
001-7020-1002
(Payroll)
001-7110-2001
(Misc. Equipment)
2,000.
$ AMOUNT:
500.
$ AMOUNT:
$ AMOUNT:
150.
$ AMOUNT:
WASTEWATER:
FROM:
TO:
$ AMOUNT:
32-8120-2020
(Vehicles)
32-9950-9105
(Trans. to Capital Project)
5,000.
WATER:
FROM:
TO:
$ AMOUNT:
46-8340-4400
(Misc. Contr. T &D)
46-8310-4401
(Misc. Contr. - Administration)
515.
DATA PROCESSING:
FROM:
TO:
$ AMOUNT:
01-1680-2032-1680
(Computer Software)
01-1680-2100
(Computer Hardware)
6,960.
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the 1996 Town Budget is hereby amended accordingly.
Duly adopted this 23rd of December, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES : Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner,
Mr. Champagne
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION SETTING 1997 SALARY FOR SECRETARY
AT PINE VIEW CEMETERY & CREMATORIUM
RESOLUTION NO. 528, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury desires to set the 1997 salary for the part-time secretary
at the Pine View Cemetery and Crematorium,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the 1997 salary for the part -time secretary at the Pine View Cemetery and Crematorium shall be
$ 9.27 per hour.
Duly adopted this 23rd day of December, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES : Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert,
Mr. Champagne
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING PURCHASE OF XEROX COPIER
RESOLUTION NO. 529,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury has previously adopted purchasing procedures and in
accordance with said procedures, any purchase in an amount of $5,000 or greater, up to New York State bidding limits,
must be approved by the Town Board before the contract is entered into, and
WHEREAS, the Town Purchasing Agent has proposed to purchase a new Xerox 5065 Copier for the amount of
$13,481, and
WHEREAS, NYS Bidding is not required, since the copier to be purchased is under State Contract,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby approves of the purchase of one new Xerox
5065 Copierfor the amount of $13,481 to be paid forfrom Account No. 01-1670-2010.
Duly adopted this 23rd day of December, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES : Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver,
Mr. Champagne
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING APPLICATION FOR NEW YORK STATE
NONPOINT SOURCE (NPS) IMPLEMENTATION GRANTS PROGRAM
RESOLUTION NO. 530, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is desirous of applying for a Nonpoint Source (NPS)
Implementation Grants Program as provided by ~319 of the Federal Clean Water Act (CW A) and the State Environmental
Protection Fund (EPF), and
WHEREAS, it is anticipated that the funding from said grant will be used to pay for installation of drainage
improvements to a section of Cleverdale Road within the Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, it is understood by the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury that if a grant is awarded, the amount
of the grant will be up to a maximum amount of $20,000 and the funds already awarded from a grant provided by the Lake
George Association (LGA) represent an eligible match to the requested amount,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes the submission of an application
for a Nonpoint Source (NPS) Implementation Grants Program as provided by ~319 of the Federal Clean Water Act (CW A)
and the State Environmental Protection Fund (EPF), and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby acknowledges that the application will be
for a grant up to a maximum amount of $20,000, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor is hereby authorized and directed to execute, on behalf of the Town of
Queensbury, a Grant application and further authorizes and directs the Executive Director of Community Development to
take any other and such further action as may be necessary to accomplish the purposes of this resolution, which is to apply
for the aforementioned grant.
Duly adopted this 23rd day of December, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan,
Mr. Champagne
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
DISCUSSION BEFORE VOTE:
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-I want to get some information on the record. We did look into this for Glen Lake too but
we just weren't, I would say far enough along on that investigation of those problems.
Councilman Monahan-It may come though, we may be looking at it in a couple of months or even sooner.
Executive Director, Mr. Martin-Right, at a future round but at this particular time, we just weren't ready, I wanted the board
to know about that. We are pretty far along on the Cleverdale project so we would like to put in for that one. I did call the
state, the twenty thousand dollar grant we have from the LGA could count as a local match. (vote taken)
RESOLUTION APPOINTING SCHOOL TRAFFIC OFFICER
RESOLUTION NO. 531,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is desirous of appointing Ms. Susan Mitchell to a School
Traffic Officer position,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby appoints Ms. Susan Mitchell to the School
Traffic Officer position, effective January 2, 1997, at the rate of pay of $ 22. per 2-hour day, and $ 8 per hour for time
worked after the 2 hours, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the hourly wages paid to Ms. Mitchell shall be from the appropriate Town of Queensbury
Payroll Account.
Duly adopted this 23rd day of December, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES : Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner,
Mr. Champagne
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CLOSING OF
CAPITAL PROJECT FUND #94 - HIGHWAY EQUIPMENT
RESOLUTION NO. 532, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, the Town Comptroller's Office has advised that Capital Project Fund #94 - Highway Equipment is no
longer needed and therefore has recommended that the Fund be closed,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby directs and authorizes that Capital Project
Fund #94 - Highway Equipment be closed.
Duly adopted this 23rd day of December, 1996 by the following vote:
AYES
Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert,
Mr. Champagne
NOES:
None
ABSENT:
None
DISCUSSION BEFORE VOTE:
Councilman Pulver questioned whether the account has been depleted?
Comptroller, Mr. Burns noted, we've made all the purchases, it's been open for a while and we're trying to clean up some of
these older capital jobs that have been around for a while and this is one that's completely done, the equipment has been
bought and it's behind us.
Councilman Pulver-So there's no money in it at all?
Comptroller, Mr. Burns-No. (vote taken)
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING APPLICATION AND PURCHASE OF
NEW YORK STATE DISABILITY INSURANCE
RESOLUTION NO. 533, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury presently carries its New York State Disability
Insurance through the Hartford Insurance Company, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury has received quotes on New York State Disability
Insurance for 1997 and Zurich Insurance Company has submitted the lowest rate, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury desires to transfer its New York State Disability
Insurance Policy from Hartford Insurance Company to Zurich Insurance Company, thus saving the Town of Queensbury
approximately $3,800 annually,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes the Town Supervisor to arrange
for the submission of an application for New York State Disability Insurance to the Zurich Insurance Company, execute
said application, and take all steps that may be necessary to transfer the New York State Disability Insurance Policy from
Hartford Insurance Company to the Zurich Insurance Company, said insurance coverage to be effective January 1, 1997.
Duly adopted this 23rd day of December, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES : Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver,
Mr. Champagne
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
Councilman Monahan noted that the town's insurance renewal date is January 1st and there's several issues to be
determined relative to coverage and relative to the premium. There is a law on the books that this Town Board has to pass a
resolution whenever coverage or carrier or company is changed. There's not a meeting between now and January 1st. So,
it's either that you're going to have to authorize Bill and I to make the decision or we're going to have to come back in for a
special meeting relative to that insurance because we can't let that date go by.
Town Board held discussion and the following resolution was proposed:
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TOWN SUPERVISOR & COUNCILMAN MONAHAN
TO DECIDE INSURANCE COVERAGE FOR THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
RESOLUTION NO. 534, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED FOR IT'S ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby authorizes Councilman Betty Monahan and Supervisor Fred
Champagne to make what ever decisions need to be made on the insurance, the carrier and the coverage for the Town of
Queensbury.
Duly adopted this 23rd day December, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan,
Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION CALLING FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION
RESOLUTION NO. 535, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED FOR IT'S ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from Regular Session and enters
Executive Session to discuss a personnel matter.
Duly adopted this 23rd day of December, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner,
Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION TO RECONVENE
RESOLUTION NO. 536, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED FOR IT'S ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from Executive Session and enters
Regular Session.
Duly adopted this 23rd day of December, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert,
Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
PUBLIC HEARING - FIRE & EMS CONTRACTS
NOTICE SHOWN
7:05 P.M.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Okay, we'll open the public hearing now for the fire and rescue contracts. I'd like to first
do the rescue, if we may, we have three of those to hear from the public so let's take those first. That would be the Bay
Ridge Rescue Squad, North Queensbury Rescue Squad and West Glens Falls. So the public hearing is open. Hopefully
you've had a chance to review the contracts, get at least a feel for where the Town Board is at this year in terms of putting
together a two year contracts. So there you go, the floor is yours.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Three for fire company.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Two, yea two for the rescue squads. What I'd like to try to do while this gentleman is
coming up to the mic is, if we can get an agreement and an understanding here this evening, we do have a Notary Public
here on site, if you care to sign this evening obviously it would prevent you from coming back in the future and doing what
ever you may have to do otherwise. So with that, the floor is yours Chris.
MR. CHRIS GRANGER-Am I supposed to state my name and all that?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Please do, we need that for the record.
MR. GRANGER-Okay, my name is Chris Granger and I'm the President of the Bay Ridge Rescue Squad and just with our
current contractual negotiations, where we sit right now, the rescue squad just still has two points that we would like to go
over with the contract. The first point would be on page 3, section three.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Page 3, section 3, okay.
MR. GRANGER-Where this agreement shall not be deemed exclusive. I'm not going to read the whole thing but the, what
the rescue squads been talking about is that this seems awful redundant. Within the contract you have certain provisions
that say that we must provide the ambulance service for the Town of Queensbury. If we default on that, then you guys have
recourse for that. You also have provisions in there where we have to show all monies coming in and coming out. You are
now saying in here that if I'm going to enter into a contract, which you guys are encouraging us to do to get some
reimbursement back from our medic truck, now I have to come to you and get a resolution by the Town Board. So there's
another meeting that I have to go to, there's more of a paper work trail. You already have provisions within the contract
that state where to track, we're held accountable where we have to provide the service, where we have to track the funding,
where we have to show you what we're doing. Why do I have to then come to you if I'm an independent organization and
an independent corporation and now get your blessing to go do something that you guys have encouraged me to do. You're
just making more paper work for us and putting more hardships on the members and not only that but now I have to try and
negotiate a contract, say, okay, now wait, now I've got to go back to the Town Board, get their permission and then go back
again and renegotiate. It's a back and forth process. To me it seems very redundant, it's going to have alot of extra hardship
and a matter of fact it's, it's more of a deterrent for me not to go out and aggressively seek this because now I'm looking at
all of this more paper work and work that we have to do when you guys have already spelled out what you want us to do
and have the safeguards already in the contract.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT -I think I can respond to that, Fred. Chris, I spoke to you in reference to this itell. There's a
number of points that I would like to bring to your attention. Last year when we negotiated with Bay Ridge Emergency
with the concern of the amount of intercepts that Bay Ridge was doing versus the Town of Queensbury calls, it was
becoming quite apparent that there was some concern that the Town of Queensbury taxpayers were paying for the services
for outside of the Town of Queensbury. In reference to this clause, it's one of, I don't really have a problem with it with the
fact that we contract with you, we buy, we're buying the fly car or the medic truck, we buy, we pay for the supplies that go
into it, we pay for the equipment in which you use to go in that and if you want to use that equipment to make money to
offset that, I have no problem, in fact we did encourage that. The problem is, is that we have to be able to justify to the
taxpayers of the Town of Queensbury, yes you pay for this up front, but their contracting with this, for this amount of
money to give that service outside of that. In that it doesn't allow, otherwise we could just have all the companies go out
and get into contracts with other municipalities and they have all this, they have their contract money with these other
companies and the taxpayers of the Town of Queensbury continue to pay to foot the bill on it. That's the only reason that
that clause is there. If you're going to do a contract with them, we are entitled to see the contract and to have an idea of
how much funds you're bringing in to offset, it's not to offset the cost of the medic car, it's to offset the cost that the
taxpayers are paying for, of Queensbury, are paying for that service to go outside of the county.
MR. GRANGER-I agree with you a hundred percent, Connie except for the fact that you already have that. I have to show
you every nickel that comes into the squad and where it's expenditure. You know, if I get in, if I bring in, if we do x
amount of calls outside of the district and we have a contract that says that we're going to get so many dollars, I have to
show that to you right now.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-You don't have anything showing me that you have a signed contract with an outside
municipality for a certain amount of money.
MR. GRANGER-Right now I don't because we've just started looking into this andjust starting to work on this. That's
true, right now we don't but you also have in the contract, it clearly states that I have to show you all monies going in and
going out of the organization and that any money coming in, would come into the squad and I would have to clearly show
that to you. My, what my concern is, is that, you know, why do I need a resolution of the Town Board. I can see where
you guys would want a copy and would want to know what's going on and how much we're getting from it, but why do I
have to sit a week or two weeks or however long it takes to get on the pallet for a resolution from the Town Board to enter
into a contract. We are a separate agency, and yes we are contracting with the Town of Queensbury for a certain amount of
funds to provide service for those funds and I agree wholeheartedly with that and I agree wholeheartedly that we have to be
responsible to the taxpayers. What my point is, being is, why do we have to add another step into this when you already
have those safeguards in place. You already say that I
COUNCILMAN PULVER-Chris, let me just interrupt you before you go on.
MR. GRANGER-Okay.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-I, reading this, I believe the reason is because then it becomes a matter of public record. Your
telling me what you do doesn't mean anything to the taxpayers. I drop dead tomorrow, I take that information with me, no
one else knows it but by having to pass a resolution and making it part of a public meeting which then becomes public
knowledge and part of public information and it's there.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I would even add to that Chris, that you know, this is a whole new twist to the town's
operation.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-It's a second check. I realize it's an inconvenience for you, it's an inconvenience for us too but
to keep everyone informed and to keep everything so there is a proper paper trail, that seems to be the way it should go.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-The legal, just to draw in this whole legal issue behind this from what I've read so far, I
mean, there's some things that the town can do, there are some things that you folks can do but in the end run, obviously it
all ends up down with the Attorney General's Office or some where in Albany that allows for this to happen and things are
changing rather rapidly out there, in terms of what's acceptable legally and what's not acceptable. I think that, you know, at
least for the next couple of years and you said it right, when you said that the board seems to be encouraging this to happen
and I think some of us are and as a result of that, all we're trying to do here is to, not manipulate it, not to monitor it, not to
father it or mother it, we just want to make sure that everything that happens out there is transferred to other squads, if you
will and also that we have some kind of a legal document that ties it all together that we know we're on the right track in
order to accomplish what we have set out to accomplish. I just don't see it, to be very honest with you, getting in the way of
what you're trying to do. This board will move as expeditiously as we possibly can to make it happen because we're
supporting it, we're encouraging it.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-And I think the process will change as it goes along, it will be much more simpler but because,
I mean, we're not really creating the wheel here or new ground but in a sense we are starting a new procedure so though to
be sure that, you know there is record and proper records of everything, that's one of the reasons we're doing it this way.
MR. GRANGER-It's just, it's getting more and more harder to be a volunteer. I'll be honest with you. You know, tonight
makes, this week, it makes four weeks in a row that I have not yet to see my family in an evening due to rescue squad
commitments with budgets and everything else and now you're asking us to add another meeting because I either have to
present this to you and then, you know if you have questions and I have to meet with the board, then I have to go back and
meet with these people, then I have to meet with my board, you're making it very difficult.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-But you have to, it's not us, you have to understand Chris, it's not these people here.
MR. GRANGER-But you're asking.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-But it's part of the democratic process that we all have, you know, the individual's right to
know. Yes, you have to come back, you happen to be sitting in that position but it could be five different people sitting
here and you would still have to come back because it's just part of the process that has to be done.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-We see the picture as a two million dollar tax burden on town government and I think our
job here is to protect that to the extent that we can and to give you the reigns, if you will to go out there to do what you have
to do with some kind of a cooperative venture that works for both sides and for the life of me, I would hope that this does
not get in your way in any shape, manner or forll. That's not the purpose of what we're trying to get at here.
MR. GRANGER-I just think it's awful redundant. You've already, you've got alot of those safeguards in place. You
already have them. You know, I can't, like I said before, the money tracking is there and then
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-There's no safeguard in this issue Chris because it's never happened. If it happens and it's
fine, then in the next contract, then you can say it's redundant. But it's not redundant cause it's never happened. We don't
know how this is going to work. We don't, what happens to one of your volunteers that gets hurt on a call that your billing
for but comes under the town's workman's comp?
MR. GRANGER-The workman's comp? We pay for the but
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-You pay a share of the workman's comp, not the whole bucket. But there's a lot of things that
need to be worked out on this, not only you have to be protected but the taxpayers of the Town of Queensbury have to
protected because you know and I know that they're going to start with you and they're going to finish with the Town of
Queensbury if there's an issue cause you go where the pockets are.
MR. GRANGER-That's where ever it is.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT -So, you know, it's not redundant because it hasn't happened.
MR. GRANGER-Alright, moving onto the next point. Page 7, 9A. You have quite extensively made us give you guys
budgets and have looked at the line items back and forth on the budgets and have approved expenditures per those budgets
and you are requesting that we put those budgets in place and now you're setting a cap limit of fifty thousand dollars or
more. So, in two years when I go to purchase an ambulance, before I purchase that ambulance I'm going to have to come
see you guys and get permission when you've already, in theory approved that purchase by giving us the money and
approved our budgets for the next two years. Why do we now need to come back again and get another resolution to
purchase that piece of apparatus or that equipment that you guys have already approved through the budget requests that we
put in and by the budget that we submitted that has to be attached to the contract.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT -I can't help you on this one. I agree with you, I think it's redundant.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Anyone on the board want to take a position on this?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Well I, you know, it's something we've done with the fire companies for a long time. I
frankly Chris and I guess maybe cause the fact that we're going to fly cars is one reason because part of the argument with
the fly car is, is that the life of the ambulance is going to be extended.
MR. GRANGER-That's correct.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-You know, I think we have to see how that works out. We don't know absolutely. You talk
about, you know, what we've put aside for new vehicles but nobody knows absolutely right now what a new vehicle is
going to cost you two or three years down the road. So, you know, again, I think it's a safeguard to make sure that the
taxpayer's dollars are wisely spent and go where the intent was.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-I have a question, maybe this, somebody can explain this. In one of our negotiations, one of
our companies makes a lump sum payment for their mortgage that's more then fifty thousand dollars so they'll have to come
back here and get Town Board approval by resolution to make that mortgage payment?
COUNCILMAN PULVER-No because this says purchase, or enter into a different contract. It has nothing to do with
making extra payments.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT -Purchase or to enter into an agreement.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-But the purchase has already been done, Connie.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-Right, the purchase has already been, yes. That's nothing new, it's already been there.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I guess my position would be Chris, to say that, you know, we've put our trust in you and I
have to believe that you have to put your trust in us and that in order to make this work so that we can share with our public
if you will, that trustworthiness is holding and that we're not here to rubber stamp every move you folks make and I
certainly hope that we don't. But I would ask you to at least offer some consideration that the board does have to take a
position, not necessarily approving or disapproving but you are keeping us informed and that's basically what it says here,
by resolution of the Town Board.
MR. GRANGER-But by resolution approving my contract which has a two year, for us it's a two year budget so and it says
in here, in another spot how we're supposed to make our expenditures that there in a line item, that if there's, we can move
between line items but we can't move any monies out of the vehicle funds or the insurance fund or the mortgage payments,
you've approved my schedule by approving my budget, you've approved my schedule of capital expenditures and also
vehicle purchases. Why do I need to now go another step when it's time to do that according to my scheduled budget and
then come back again and ask permission to do the same thing allover again, that we've just done for the past four weeks or
so and budget negotiations by coming up with a budget and having it attached to the contract?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Again, you know it's, call it belts and suspenders, call it guarantees or insurance. Call it
what ever you want to call it but I guess that's where the majority of the board is coming from.
COUNCILMAN PUL VER-I guess we could go on and discuss and discuss and discuss but it's not going to change my
mind, so.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I don't really see any difference with what we do with our own departments within the town.
They have vehicles in their budget but before they can go out and order, we have to approve them.
MR. GRANGER-It's a little different, Betty. You're talking about being
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I'm laughing because our Highway Superintendent is behind you and making motions.
MR. GRANGER-Oh, you're right in it's
COUNCILMAN PULVER-And sometimes he doesn't always get them even when they're approved. Right, Paul?
MR. GRANGER-Betty, I agree with you. It's the same thing that when I'm at work, I have to put in a purchase order and
stuff, I have a budget too. The real big difference is, is that first off is your main job is to be responsible for the operations,
with the monies coming in and out, you're watching the monies on a daily basis for the town, where I'm watching the
monies on a daily basis for the rescue squad. Okay, I get those monies once, basically in theory, once those monies leave
the town office building they come to the rescue squad and is then my responsibility as president of the rescue squad to the
taxpayers and to you guys, to follow my budget, to stay within the constraints of the contract that you provide for me and I
do the same thing you guys do. And I mean, in our rescue squad, we have a purchase order system and I have to approve
all purchases just like the Town Board approves all the purchases for thell. But what I'm saying is, is that we've already
agreed upon these and I know what monies I have and don't have. I know where I can make purchases and where I can't
make purchases, as per the town contract. Now, you're adding another step to it again where I have to come back in again
and you know, spend another night with you guys or you know, go with you guys and you guys know as well as I do that
I'm going to have to come in, explain what ambulance I'm doing and all this, it's more work that's set upon us that's already,
we're being work loaded tremendously now.
SUPERVISOR CHAMP AGNE-I don't know.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-Well you don't expect to have to do this in the next two years anyway because you've already
purchased your ambulance, right?
MR. GRANGER-Right, that's true Carol but
COUNCILMAN PULVER-So, it's sort of a mute point for you.
MR. GRANGER-Well no, not really because now it's becoming, this is becoming precedence. Ifwe sign this contract now,
we set a precedence as to what's going on with the contracts and then you guys next time will say, well it was in your
contract previously and what I'm trying to do is prevent some heartaches down the road because we will be facing this at
the end of our two year contract. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Okay, next? Anyone else? Rescue Squads?
MR. PLINEY TUCKER-Can we ask questions about this?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Sure, it's an open public hearing, you sure can.
MR. TUCKER-Pliney Tucker. Tell me if I'm understanding this correctly. Bay Ridge is thinking about going outside of
the town to contract for ambulance service?
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-No, their contract last year we discussed with them about maybe negotiating a contract with
the municipality for the services of their medic truck.
MR. TUCKER-Outside of the town?
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Yes.
MR. TUCKER-Did you guys take a look at the safeguards that the town would have to have to protect the taxpayers?
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-That's why we had put the previous clause in there that when and if they do get a contract
with an outside municipality, that it will have to be approved, the contract will have to be approved by the, also by the town
by resolution by the Town Board.
MR. TUCKER-I see. So what he's questioning is, you guys doing your job, taking care of the taxpayers.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT -On, no what he's questioning, the latter part of his conversation?
MR. TUCKER-No, the first part.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT -Oh, the first part. Well he just had a question about that, that is something new that's just
been started so it's going to be kind of a feel me out type of thing until we find out how it's going to work. Or even if it's a
part that's taken place of, if they get somebody to
MR. TUCKER-If this comes to pass and it works, is there going to be an adjustment in his contract as far as costs to the
taxpayers of the Town of Queensbury?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I would expect.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-I would expect so.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I would expect so. I think that's one of the things that this board has been looking at, at
least from the day I took office is and if you look at Colonie and some other communities that I've had an opportunity to
speak to, there is this thing known as third party payment for ambulance service and if it's a transport, it's one thing. If it's
something else, a critical issue, it's something else and yea, where I'm coming from, Fred Champagne, I believe that there
should be a strong effort made to assist in keeping our costs down as taxpayers to support certainly other communities that
they get heavily involved with, they do a goodly number of runs into the Washington County, Fort Ann, Comstocks. Other
rescue squads are doing something quite similar to that, in rescuing aiding and assisting others. You know, I'd like to take a
look at third party payment across the board.
MR. TUCKER-I know what you're saying about third party payments but this is a little
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-This is a different issue.
MR. TUCKER-If they were going to be doing it all within the town
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Right.
MR. TUCKER-I mean, it would be no problem.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-No, this extends beyond that and I understand that. This goes beyond the third
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-The history of this is last year, Bay Ridge Emergency was doing more calls outside of the
town
MR. TUCKER-I know that.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-Then they were doing in within the town for ALS intercepts.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-It's a new medical program that was going on. What has happened is that because of the
schooling and the length of time of the schooling, these, the outside agencies which are mandated by New York State, to do
mutual aide which is what they're doing it, they now are starting to catch up with the Town of Queensbury's EMS service.
So, their mutual aide calls have decreased from last year's figure to this year's figure. And as you're going to slowly see,
you're going to slowly see a back down within the range of what is classified as norm and that way we would be within the
five percent range. But it's just that it's a matter of a new level of care in Upstate New York and everybody being able to
get to that level.
MR. TUCKER-So I assume that you're going to hold your ground as far as wanting to look at a contract if any contracts are
brought forth.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-I have no problem with holding my ground on the contract with the outside municipalities, I
think that's only, I would make anybody do that.
MR. TUCKER-Okay, thank you.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Okay, anyone else? Rescue Squad, let's stick to that one. Does the board have anything
more to add otherwise we'll close that public hearing?
COUNCILMAN PULVER-Do we do these resolutions individually now for the rescue squad and then do fire or do we do
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-The resolutions come afterwards.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-We can do it either way you choose to do it. I was going to do it all at the end.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-I would chose to do them all together.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I would too.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-Alright.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Okay, we'll close that public hearing. Well I don't know that I have to close it but we'll just
move right along onto the next one, I guess. So now we're into the fire. So let's hear it from the fire folks. Anyone care to
speak on behalf?
MR. GARY EVANS-Good evening. I'm Gary Evans from Bay Ridge Fire and a couple of things I want to question here, I
think they're minor. I just want to be sure they're straight for the official record when we get to that point. On page 2, item
1, paragraph A, sentence 1, first year of the contract it says, two hundred and fifty-eight thousand, nine hundred and twenty
dollars for it's operation expenses and zero dollars for it's vehicle fund. My last understanding was is that we had two fifty-
two one eighty in operations expenses for 97 and sixty-seven forty towards the vehicle fund for 97 and I just want to be
sure that the documents we're proposing to sign will reflect that.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Gary, what are your figures, please?
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-We have a contract, it doesn't have the figures in it.
MR. EV ANS-I have fifty-two one eighty for operations.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Two fifty-two one eighty?
MR. EVANS-For operations and six thousand seven hundred and forty towards a vehicle fund. That was where we ended
up back in November and I think it's probably just an oversight on the typing instructions here but I want to be sure that it's
correct for the contract. It's still the same total amount, two fifty-eight nine twenty.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT -Didn't we have the same problem the other night, in it was just not marked out at the right
place?
MR. EV ANS-I think that's what it is but
COUNCILMAN PUL VER- Two fifty-eight nine twenty, is what you're getting right?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Yea.
MR. EVANS-Right and it's split up into two parts.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Yea, and he's right in that, I remember that.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-Okay, that's the total that I have for you but I don't
MR. EVANS-Yea, the total is correct, I'm not questioning the total money.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-But it was supposed to be split.
MR. EV ANS- They split, it's fifty-two one eighty for operations and sixty-seven forty for vehicles and yes, I think we did
discuss this before but I want to be sure since this is a draft of the proposed contract that we get it right. You know, so that
there's no questions a couple of the years down the road why didn't...do something that we all talked about.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-No, you're right, you're right.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-You're right, Gary.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Give me that first number, the operations?
MR. EV ANS- Two fifty-two one eighty.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Two fifty-two one eighty.
MR. EVANS-For operations and sixty-seven forty for expenses and that's in 1997.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Yea for a total of two fifty-eight nine twenty.
MR. EV ANS- The total was correct.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Yea, do you want to make that change, Bill for me please?
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Other two years correct, Gary?
MR. EVANS-Yes, the totals on the other two years are correct as are the splits.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Okay.
MR. EV ANS- Then on page 6, under part 4, there's a sentence B there. I don't have a problem with what it says but I find it
very ambiguous and I'd like a clarification or an explanation of what the board expects. We're talking about the annual
reports and so forth, and then it says, B, a budget for each respective year of the proposed contracts starting in the year two
thousand. Well the contract starts in 97, my question revolves around, are you looking in 97 to get a proposed budget for
the year 2000?
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-No, this is for when you come back into re-negotiate your contracts.
MR. EVANS-What date would you expect to have something for the year 2000,2001?
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-And that would have to be July 1st of99.
MR. EVANS-Okay. Again, I just want to prevent any misunderstandings and get a firm date.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-That's a good point.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-We had a hard time coming up with that language, Gary.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Yea we did, we struggled with that.
MR. EVANS-And we got Bill, you got a town lawyer, you've got some good people. Okay I had, one other thing I was
told about is a minor change in the wording and I don't think it means any difference but I'd like, again here the board's
opinion. It starts on page 7 at the bottom about the need to come back to the town when we're going to do a purchase for
loans of over, of anything exceeding fifty thousand dollars. We discussed that and as we discussed, that's not a problem
with our organization but I got a document that said with an aggregate total value of fifty thousand or more and then it's
going to be changed to with total value of fifty thousand. Now, my interpretation of what we meant here was if we're going
to go out and buy a piece of property and want to pay over fifty thousand or if we're going to go out and buy an apparatus
or if we're going to go to the bank and seek a loan and it's going to be greater then this, then we're going to come to you and
ask for this permission. But it's not to say that if we buy a piece of property at twenty thousand and do some improvement
to it for twenty thousand and over here we're buying a truck at say fifty thousand or forty-five thousand, so the total
amounts come up to like eighty or ninety thousand in one budget year but we don't come back because they're separate
projects. Am I interpreting this the way you people intended?
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-That's the way I read it.
MR. EVANS-Okay, I just wanted to make sure.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-The fifty thousand applies to each purchase that we listed there.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Right.
MR. EVANS-Yes, got you. Like when we did the air packs last year.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Yea.
MR. EVANS-Okay and the other thing, I'd like to thank the members of the board for the time they spent with us this year
in going through the negotiations. I was interested in the way you guys arrived at your numbers, especially on the second
night. Surprised one or two of you that I was actually asking for less then you were willing to give. But I think the
working together and the time taken and doing this in a business like manner is a big improvement from the way things
have been here in the past and I'd like to commend you people for working with us. That's it.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I deeply appreciate that Gary, thank you.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Thank you Gary.
MR. DICK GOEDERT -Hi, Dick Goedert from Queensbury Central, I'm the treasurer. I also have a problem with page 8 of
the contract. It's the same thing that we've been talking about. In last year's contract we came up with language that would
read that would require the fire company to acquire a loan or mortgage without prior approval of the Town Board which
seemed to make alot of sense. Then this year they came up with an aggregate total of fifty thousand or more then having to
have a town resolution. Is the word aggregate being removed from this?
COUNCILMAN TURNER-Yes.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Yea. I don't have aggregate in the contract I'm looking
COUNCILMAN TURNER-It's not in here.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-In the contracts it's not in.
MR. GOEDERT-It doesn't say what?
COUNCILMAN PULVER-It doesn't say aggregate.
MR. GOEDERT-Well mine says aggregate.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Yea, we've got the latest one of the press.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Yea, you do, you have the original one. We did get some calls on that, we did take that out
because that was wrong. It's not aggregate.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-With a value of fifty thousand.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-It's per individual purchase.
MR. GOEDERT-Okay. I just want to say the same thing that the other people are saying. Last year we had that removed,
that was out of the contract. This year you're throwing it back in and there were seven changes made, none of them
benefitted the fire company. All of them had to do with, alot of things that we've already been doing. But this is one area
where I think if we do a good job on our budgets and everything, we should not have to come back to you each time we
make a move like this. Obviously, there's ways to go underneath it. If you're going to buy a fly car, you certainly pay less
then fifty thousand for a fly car. You know, so it's not covering everything but
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-And also allows you to go out and get a loan for less then fifty thousand dollars too without
board approval.
MR. GOEDERT-Yea and I don't think that's what we want to do, we don't want to go into any further indebtedness. So I
just wish you would reconsider that. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Dick, I think the reason that was taken out and when you say, nothing has really happened
to benefit the fire companies and the rescue squads, then I guess we probably shouldn't haven't passed a resolution that
takes the funds that were being held by the town and you know, give them back to the companies. I think that was a major
give back and I
MR. GOEDERT-So you think it's a major give back, I don't cause I trust you.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Well
MR. GOEDERT-Okay.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-You do.
MR. GOEDERT-It was proven out that you gave us
COUNCILMAN PUL VER- Thank you, Dick. Thank you.
MR. GOEDERT-You're welcome. You proved to us
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-You do but there are others out there that don't feel that way, believe me.
MR. GOEDERT-Alright but when
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-But I think the bottom line here is, the fifty was in there prior to that. When we held the
money, we didn't need the fifty in there. The money is back in your lap now and the board kind offelt that maybe the fifty
should go back in. So, it, to be very honest with you, it was a trade off.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-So, you gave nothing.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-It was a trade off. It's not going to hurt you, it's not going to help you that I see. You want
to go out and borrow forty-nine, nine ninety-nine, ninety-nine, you can do that. You can do that.
MR. GOEDERT -It's kind of, as I read through the contract, it's kind oflike a little slap in the face that hey, we couldn't
keep the same language and we had to change it. Obviously the fifty thousand dollars isn't going to kill anybody.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Right.
MR. GOEDERT-It's just the point of the thing. It's just one more hoop to have to jump through.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-And you're absolutely right, and it would be my hope that in another three years from now,
zip it out of there, it could come out. That to me is not the ice breaker, it really isn't. That's not the cincture of this contract,
it merely says to satisfy some people. Let's try it. If it works, fine. If you want to go borrow forty-nine, nine ninety-nine,
ninety-nine, you know, you can do that too.
MR. GOEDERT-Thank you.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-It's that mutual trust that's in you folks and this board. That's all it is.
MR. GOEDERT-If you had mutual trust, you would have left the wording that was in there in last years contract without
taking it out.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I'm pleased to hear you say that.
MR. GOEDERT-Then we would have had trust.
SUPERVISOR CHAMP AGNE-I knew you were going to say that. Okay, anyone else? We've got to keep this good humor
moving right along here. Anyone else care to speak? It's only twenty minutes until eight. It just doesn't seem appropriate
that we're going to get through this so easy.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-It's the twenty-third of December, Fred, it's seems appropriate to me.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-Yea, I was going to say, how many times have we met with these people.
COUNCILMAN GOEDERT-I'd just like to ask question. With the clause remaining, the clause on page 7 or 8, I guess it's
8 that been the topic of conversation, is that going to force the agencies not to sign? Because the next thing on my list is I
have us passing the resolutions on the contracts.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-And that's normally how we would do it, right after the public hearing, we would pass the
resolution and then we would have to go back and negotiate whatever else is in there. The contract really, yea, go ahead.
MR. GOEDERT -In all fairness Fred, we just got the contract the other night and now you turn around and have the public
hearing and encouraging us to sign. I can only speak for Queensbury Central and I know we have a meeting scheduled for
the twenty-seventh, I don't see how we're going to sign tonight.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-That's fine. Yea, I have absolutely no problem with that. Obviously, as the Supervisor I'd
like to try to get as much behind me as I can come near the end of the year. We've been rather busy for those companies
and I have gotten some calls from some companies that did say that they were ready to sign and that's why I'm putting it out
here on the table. Believe, me, there's no harm done if you chose not to sign tonight. You know, we'll be in conversation
over the next few days. We also learned that we could go almost a year and not have it signed and business as usual. So,
you know, it's up to you folks. Obviously, coming from my side, the more we get signed tonight, the better I would like it.
MR. GOEDERT-The fire company will not go a year without that. I can guarantee, I'll be on your door the end of
February.
COUNCILMAN PULVER-We would hope so.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-You think you need the money by the end of February, right.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-I'm not sure how many of these companies can sign, tonight. Have they been empowered
by their boards to sign this? I don't know what their business procedures are in their companies.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-I would think, some of them have been, Betty. As I said, I have gotten some calls. It's
entirely up to thell. I'm not looking to get a signature here if they feel otherwise. Anyone else care to speak? Yes sir.
MR. WAITE COWLES-Waite Cowles, President of North Queensbury. Just a point of interest. We, the fire company is
content with the contract as it's written, which is fine. As a unified body, I was asked to just state that North Queensbury
Rescue Squad is looking for some interest in some monies that were held for years period of time, I'm not trying to get into
a discussion about that, only that there are some concern on the squad's part and the fire company, as a body, feels that they
are probably due interest. It's a point which you and the rescue squad will certainly discuss and I'm just here to say that the
fire company backs up the rescue squad with that desire.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-Well, we certainly appreciate that.
MR. COWLES-Thank you.
SUPERVISOR CHAMPAGNE-And that is under discussion Waite, by the way. I appreciate that. Anyone else? Okay,
close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
8:43 P.M.
RESOLUTIONS
RESOLUTION APPROVING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
AND THE BAY RIDGE RESCUE SQUAD, INC.
TO PROVIDE AMBULANCE SERVICE
FOR THE QUEENSBURY FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT
RESOLUTION NO. 537,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHEREAS, there has been duly established in the Town of Queensbury a Fire Protection District embracing all of
the geographical territory of said Town, and
WHEREAS, the Town has provided for ambulance protection therein by an individual agreement with the Bay
Ridge Rescue Squad, Inc., and
WHEREAS, the present agreement between the Town of Queensbury and said Emergency Squad expires on
December 31,1996, and
WHEREAS, negotiations have been held between the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury and appropriate
representatives of the said Emergency Squad relative to the new agreement with the Emergency Squad in said Fire
Protection District, and
WHEREAS, a proposed agreement has been reached by the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury with said
Emergency Squad for ambulance service for the Fire Protection District, and
WHEREAS, said agreement between the Town and said Emergency Squad has been presented at this meeting, and
WHEREAS, it appears that said proposed agreement is fair and reasonable,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, on behalf of the Fire Protection District, hereby
enters into said agreement with the Bay Ridge Rescue Squad, Inc. in the Town of Queensbury, in the form presented at this
meeting, for ambulance protection for the Fire Protection District, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor of the Town of Queensbury be and he is hereby authorized and directed to
execute said agreement on behalf of the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury and the Fire Protection District.
Duly adopted this 23rd day of December, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES : Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert,
Mr. Champagne
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION APPROVING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
AND THE NORTH QUEENSBURY RESCUE SQUAD, INC.
TO PROVIDE AMBULANCE SERVICE
FOR THE QUEENSBURY FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT
RESOLUTION NO. 538, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHEREAS, there has been duly established in the Town of Queensbury a Fire Protection District embracing all of
the geographical territory of said Town, and
WHEREAS, the Town has provided for ambulance protection therein by an individual agreement with the North
Queensbury Rescue Squad, Inc., and
WHEREAS, the present agreement between the Town of Queensbury and said Emergency Squad expires on
December 31,1996, and
WHEREAS, negotiations have been held between the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury and appropriate
representatives of the said Emergency Squad relative to the new agreement with the Emergency Squad in said Fire
Protection District, and
WHEREAS, a proposed agreement has been reached by the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury with said
Emergency Squad for ambulance service for the Fire Protection District, and
WHEREAS, said agreement between the Town and said Emergency Squad has been presented at this meeting, and
WHEREAS, it appears that said proposed agreement is fair and reasonable,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, on behalf of the Fire Protection District, hereby
enters into said agreement with the North Queensbury Rescue Squad, Inc. in the Town of Queensbury, in the form
presented at this meeting, for ambulance protection for the Fire Protection District, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor of the Town of Queensbury be and he is hereby authorized and directed to
execute said agreement on behalf of the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury and the Fire Protection District.
Duly adopted this 23rd day of December, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES : Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver,
Mr. Champagne
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION APPROVING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
AND THE WEST GLENS FALLS EMERGENCY SQUAD, INC.
TO PROVIDE AMBULANCE SERVICE
FOR THE QUEENSBURY FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT
RESOLUTION NO. 539,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHEREAS, there has been duly established in the Town of Queensbury a Fire Protection District embracing all of
the geographical territory of said Town, and
WHEREAS, the Town has provided for ambulance protection therein by an individual agreement with the West
Glens Falls Emergency Squad, Inc., and
WHEREAS, the present agreement between the Town of Queensbury and said Emergency Squad expires on
December 31,1996, and
WHEREAS, negotiations have been held between the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury and appropriate
representatives of the said Emergency Squad relative to the new agreement with the Emergency Squad in said Fire
Protection District, and
WHEREAS, a proposed agreement has been reached by the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury with said
Emergency Squad for ambulance service for the Fire Protection District, and
WHEREAS, said agreement between the Town and said Emergency Squad has been presented at this meeting, and
WHEREAS, it appears that said proposed agreement is fair and reasonable,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, on behalf of the Fire Protection District, hereby
enters into said agreement with the West Glens Falls Emergency Squad, Inc. in the Town of Queensbury, in the form
presented at this meeting, for ambulance protection for the Fire Protection District, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor of the Town of Queensbury be and he is hereby authorized and directed to
execute said agreement on behalf of the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury and the Fire Protection District.
Duly adopted this 23rd day of December, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Turner, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Champagne
NOES : None
ABSENT:
None
ABSTAIN:
Mrs. Goedert
The following is a statement made by Councilman Goedert during vote: Even though it has been ruled that there is no
conflict, I will abstain from West so there will be no perceived conflict.
Town Board held discussion and the following resolution was proposed as amended:
RESOLUTION APPROVING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
AND THE BAY RIDGE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY, INC., TO PROVIDE
FIRE PROTECTION FOR THE QUEENSBURY FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT
RESOLUTION NO. 540, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Betty Monahan
WHEREAS, there has been duly established in the Town of Queensbury a Fire Protection District embracing all of
the geographical territory of said Town, and
WHEREAS, the Town has provided for fire protection therein by an individual agreement with the Bay Ridge
Volunteer Fire Company, Inc., and
WHEREAS, the present agreement between the Town of Queensbury and said Fire Company expires on
December 31,1996, and
WHEREAS, negotiations have been held between the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury and appropriate
representatives of the Fire Company relative to the new agreement with the Fire Company for fire protection in said Fire
Protection District, and
WHEREAS, a proposed agreement has been reached by the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury with said
Fire Company for fire protection for the Fire Protection District, and
WHEREAS, said agreement between the Town and said Fire Company has been presented at this meeting, and
WHEREAS, it appears that said proposed agreement is fair and reasonable,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, on behalf of the Fire Protection District, hereby
enters into said agreement with the Bay Ridge Volunteer Fire Company, Inc., in the Town of Queensbury, in the form
presented at this meeting, for fire protection for the Fire Protection District, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that said agreement shall be amended to show $252,180.00 for the operations fund and $6,740.00 for
vehicle fund for a total of $258,920.00, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor of the Town of Queensbury be and he is hereby authorized and directed to
execute said agreement on behalf of the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury and the Fire Protection District.
Duly adopted this 23rd day of December, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES : Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner,
Mr. Champagne
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION APPROVING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
AND THE NORTH QUEENSBURY VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY, INC., TO
PROVIDE FIRE PROTECTION FOR THE
QUEENSBURY FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT
RESOLUTION NO. 541,96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, there has been duly established in the Town of Queensbury a Fire Protection District embracing all of
the geographical territory of said Town, and
WHEREAS, the Town has provided for fire protection therein by an individual agreement with the North
Queensbury Volunteer Fire Company, Inc., and
WHEREAS, the present agreement between the Town of Queensbury and said Fire Company expires on
December 31,1996, and
WHEREAS, negotiations have been held between the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury and appropriate
representatives of the Fire Company relative to the new agreement with the Fire Company for fire protection in said Fire
Protection District, and
WHEREAS, a proposed agreement has been reached by the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury with said
Fire Company for fire protection for the Fire Protection District, and
WHEREAS, said agreement between the Town and said Fire Company has been presented at this meeting, and
WHEREAS, it appears that said proposed agreement is fair and reasonable,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, on behalf of the Fire Protection District, hereby
enters into said agreement with the North Queensbury Volunteer Fire Company, Inc., in the Town of Queensbury, in the
form presented at this meeting, for fire protection for the Fire Protection District, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor of the Town of Queensbury be and he is hereby authorized and directed to
execute said agreement on behalf of the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury and the Fire Protection District.
Duly adopted this 23rd day of December, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES : Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert,
Mr. Champagne
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION APPROVING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
AND THE QUEENSBURY CENTRAL VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY, INC., TO
PROVIDE FIRE PROTECTION FOR THE
QUEENSBURY FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT
RESOLUTION NO. 542, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, there has been duly established in the Town of Queensbury a Fire Protection District embracing all of
the geographical territory of said Town, and
WHEREAS, the Town has provided for fire protection therein by an individual agreement with the Queensbury
Central Volunteer Fire Company, Inc., and
WHEREAS, the present agreement between the Town of Queensbury and said Fire Company expires on
December 31,1996, and
WHEREAS, negotiations have been held between the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury and appropriate
representatives of the Fire Company relative to the new agreement with the Fire Company for fire protection in said Fire
Protection District, and
WHEREAS, a proposed agreement has been reached by the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury with said
Fire Company for fire protection for the Fire Protection District, and
WHEREAS, said agreement between the Town and said Fire Company has been presented at this meeting, and
WHEREAS, it appears that said proposed agreement is fair and reasonable,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, on behalf of the Fire Protection District, hereby
enters into said agreement with the Queensbury Central Volunteer Fire Company, Inc., in the Town of Queensbury, in the
form presented at this meeting, for fire protection for the Fire Protection District, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor of the Town of Queensbury be and he is hereby authorized and directed to
execute said agreement on behalf of the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury and the Fire Protection District.
Duly adopted this 23rd day of December, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES : Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver,
Mr. Champagne
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION APPROVING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
AND THE SOUTH QUEENSBURY VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY, INC., TO
PROVIDE FIRE PROTECTION FOR THE
QUEENSBURY FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT
RESOLUTION NO. 543, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, there has been duly established in the Town of Queensbury a Fire Protection District embracing all of
the geographical territory of said Town, and
WHEREAS, the Town has provided for fire protection therein by an individual agreement with the South
Queensbury Volunteer Fire Company, Inc., and
WHEREAS, the present agreement between the Town of Queensbury and said Fire Company expires on
December 31,1996, and
WHEREAS, negotiations have been held between the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury and appropriate
representatives of the Fire Company relative to the new agreement with the Fire Company for fire protection in said Fire
Protection District, and
WHEREAS, a proposed agreement has been reached by the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury with said
Fire Company for fire protection for the Fire Protection District, and
WHEREAS, said agreement between the Town and said Fire Company has been presented at this meeting, and
WHEREAS, it appears that said proposed agreement is fair and reasonable,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, on behalf of the Fire Protection District, hereby
enters into said agreement with the South Queensbury Volunteer Fire Company, Inc., in the Town of Queensbury, in the
form presented at this meeting, for fire protection for the Fire Protection District, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor of the Town of Queensbury be and he is hereby authorized and directed to
execute said agreement on behalf of the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury and the Fire Protection District.
Duly adopted this 23rd day of December, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan,
Mr. Champagne
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION APPROVING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
AND THE WEST GLENS FALLS VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY, INC., TO
PROVIDE FIRE PROTECTION FOR THE
QUEENSBURY FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT
RESOLUTION NO. 544, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Connie Goedert
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHEREAS, there has been duly established in the Town of Queensbury a Fire Protection District embracing all of
the geographical territory of said Town, and
WHEREAS, the Town has provided for fire protection therein by an individual agreement with the West Glens
Falls Volunteer Fire Company, Inc., and
WHEREAS, the present agreement between the Town of Queensbury and said Fire Company expires on
December 31,1996, and
WHEREAS, negotiations have been held between the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury and appropriate
representatives of the Fire Company relative to the new agreement with the Fire Company for fire protection in said Fire
Protection District, and
WHEREAS, a proposed agreement has been reached by the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury with said
Fire Company for fire protection for the Fire Protection District, and
WHEREAS, said agreement between the Town and said Fire Company has been presented at this meeting, and
WHEREAS, it appears that said proposed agreement is fair and reasonable,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, on behalf of the Fire Protection District, hereby
enters into said agreement with the West Glens Falls Volunteer Fire Company, Inc., in the Town of Queensbury, in the
form presented at this meeting, for fire protection for the Fire Protection District, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor of the Town of Queensbury be and he is hereby authorized and directed to
execute said agreement on behalf of the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury and the Fire Protection District.
Duly adopted this 23rd day of December, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES : Mrs. Goedert, Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner,
Mr. Champagne
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION TO ADJOURN TOWN BOARD MEETING
RESOLUTION NO. 545, 96
INTRODUCED BY: Mrs. Carol Pulver
WHO MOVED FOR IT'S ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from their meeting.
Duly adopted this 23rd day of December, 1996, by the following vote:
AYES: Mrs. Pulver, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Turner, Mrs. Goedert,
Mr. Champagne
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
No further action taken.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
DARLEEN M. DOUGHER
TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF QUEENSBURY