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REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING
FEBR U AR Y 25, 1991
7:00 P.M.
MTG. #7
RES. 118 - 131
BH. 11 11
TOWN BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT
Supervisor Stephen Borgos
Councilman Marilyn Potenza
Councilman Ronald Montesi
Councilman Betty Monahan
Town A ttorney Paul Dusek
TOWN BOARD MEMBERS ABSENT
Councilman George Kurosaka
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Pledge of Allegiance led by Councilman Potenza
Supervisor Borgos-Requested 0 moment of respect and concern for those serving in the
Gulf War and 0 moment in memory of Dr. Charles Eisenhart, Town Historian who passed
away recently.
RESOL UTlON CALLING FOR QUEENSBUR Y BOARD OF HEAL TH
RESOL UTlON NO. 118, 1991, Introduced by Mrs. Betty Monahan who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mrs. Marilyn Potenza:
RESOL VED, that the Town Boord of the Town of Queensbury hereby moves into the
Queensbury Boord of Health.
Duly adopted this 25th day of February, 1991 by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Potenza, Mr. Montesi, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Kurosaka
PUBLIC HEARING-Sewer Variance- West Glens Falls Emergency Squad
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Supervisor Borgos-I will ask the Clerk if the meeting notice was properly published?
Town Clerk Ms. Dougher-Yes
Supervisor Borgos-The Hearing is declared opened. We hove 0 request for 0 variance os
for os our septic system requirements ore concerned for the West Glens Falls Emergency
Squad project on Corinth Rood and Mr. Jim Weller is here, I believe representing them.
I see squad members also in the bock. I do not know Jim if you ore here on that matter
or another matter. Would you like to, briefly like to address the Boord and summarize
what it is you ore talking about. We got into some of this lost week or at the lost meeting
so we hove 0 rough ideo of what you ore looking for. Please state your nome and address.
Mr. Jim Weller-10m Jim Weller, and I live here in the Town of Queensbury. 10m representing
the West Glens Falls Emergency Squad os the applicant for the variance to allow us to
put the seepage pits for the septic system, under the paved area in the front of the building.
If you would like me to, I con go over to the mop and show you exactly where...
Supervisor Borgos-If you would like to, sure.
Mr. Jim Weller-(using mop) These are the extents of the property here. The new building
is basically over the top of where the existing building is now, we ore going to reduce some
of the paving that currently exists in front of the building but we would like to maintain
some parking over adjacent to the Niagara Mohawk right of way and as such we have located
two seepage pits for the septic tonk in this location underneath the parking spaces of the
black top, against the Niogara Mohawk right of way, adjacent to the Niagara Mohawk right
of way.
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Councilman Montesi-Jim, the parking area that you ore talking about is primarily going
to be used by the Emergency personnel when they make their emergency calls, in otherwords
it is not 0 parking lot that will always hove cars on it, like the one in the bock.
Mr. Weller-That is my understanding, Ron, Yes.
Councilman Montesi-So, in the event of on emergency where we needed to get into that
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parking lot to fix a seepage pit it is not a problem, there is a parking lot in the back.
Mr. Weller-That is correct, there is a parking lot at the back.
Supervisor Borgos-Any other questions from any Board members? Members of the public,
anyone have question or concern?
Councilman Monahan-Jim, I do not see this, here, on the application or on the resolution
but I am assuming that your plan calls for traffic covers over those leach fields.
Mr. Weller-That is correct, they would be traffic weight covers over the top of the seepage
pits.
Councilman Monahan-I would suggest Paul, that might be added to the resolution, I did
not see that in here.
A ttorney Dusek-What is the phrase that you would like added in?
Councilman Monahan-That these areas are covered with ...
Mr. Weller-It is probably shown somewhere on our drawings which is part of the application.
Councilman Montesi-What is the word that they use?
Councilman Potenza-Traffic weight.
A ttorney Dusek-As a condition you are suying?
Councilman Monahan-Yes. It is normal procedure for whenever you put it in a parking
area.
Supervisor Borgos-Would that be item E on page two?
A ttorney Dusek-I think I would ;ust add it to D as a condition, it states one condition already.
Councilman Potenza- The Building Dept. requires it.
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5vpervisor Borgos-+ befiette~thot';5 correct. Any further questions from the Board? Anyone
else wish to add anything? If not we will declare the public hearing closed. Thank you
very much.
RESOLUTION APPROVING VARIANCE REQUEST OF JAMES M. WELLER, P.E., AS AGENT
FOR THE WEST GLENS FALLS EMERGENCY SQUAD, INC.
RESOL UTlON NO. 11, 1991, Introduced by Mrs. Betty Monahan who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Ronald Montesi:
WHEREAS, James M. Weller, P.E., as Agent for the West Glens Falls Emergency Squad,
Inc., previously filed a request for a variance from certain provisions of the Sanitary Sewage
Disposal Ordinance of the Town of Queensbury, such provisions being more specifically
those prohibiting .components of a leaching facility from being located under driveways,
roads, parking areas, or areas sub;ect to heavy loading, and
WHEREAS, a notice of public hearing was given in the official newspaper of the Town of
Queensbury and a public hearing was held ;'n connection with the variance request on February
25, 1991, and
WHEREAS, the Town Clerk advises that property owners within 500 feet of the sub;ect
property have been duly notified,
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
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RESOL VED, that the Town of Queensbury Local Board of Health grants a variance to James
M. Weller, P.E., as Agent for the West Glens Falls Emergency Squad, Inc., allowing a
component of a leaching facility to be placed under a paved parking area on the property,
and
a. that there are special circumstances or conditions which iustify allowing a
component of a leaching facility to be placed under a paved parking area in that
no other alternative is possible which permits compliance with the separation
distance requirements of the Sanitary Sewage Ordinance, and
b. that due to the nature of the variance, it is felt that the variation will not
be materially detrimental to the purposes and ob;ectives of this ordinance
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or to other adioining properties or otherwise conflict with the purpose and obiectives
. of any plan or policy of the Town of Queensbury.
c. that the Local Boord of Health finds that the granting of the variance is
necessary for the reasonable use of the land and that the variance is granted oS the minimum
variance which would alleviate the specific unnecessary hardship found by the
Local Boord of Health to affect the applicant, and
d. that the Local Boord of Health imposes 0 condition upon the applicant that
he must also secure the approval of the New York State Deportment of Health,
and 0 further condition that .traffic covers be placed over septic tanks.
Duly adopted this 25th day of February, 1991 by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Potenza, Mr. Montesi, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
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Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Kurosaka
RESOLUTION TO ADJOURN AS QUEENSBURY BOARD OF HEALTH
RESOLUTION NO. 12, 1991, Introduced by Mrs. Marilyn Potenza who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Ronald Montesi:
RESOL VED, that the Town Boord of Health is hereby adiourned and the Town Boord returns
to regular session.
Duly adopted this 25th day of February, 1991 by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Potenza, Mr. Montesi, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Kurosako.
REGULAR TOWN BOARD
Supervisor Borgos-Welcomed Troop 13 Boy Ridge Boy Scouts to the Town. Boord Meeting...
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Judge Muller-10m the Assistant Scout Moster, this is port of their Citizenship and
Community Merit Badge, they hove to attend 0 public meeting in their community.
Supervisor Borgos-We would like to thank the League of Women Voters for these mugs...
PUBLIC HEARING-Proposed Local Low Sewer Rents.
Supervisor Borgos-Has this been advertised?
Town Clerk Dougher- Yes.
Supervisor Borgos-Before we toke comments from anyone and everyone who wishes to speak
I would iust to bring to your attention that once again I know I feel this way and I think
most of the Town Boord Members do. This is probably been the biggest problem on the
shoulders of any of us since we hove been in office. The sewer proiect is immense it is
over nine million dollars of proiect it was mode very, very immense in terms of dollars
because it has no federal or state funding whatever. It is the largest locally funded program
that we ore aware of anywhere in this area and perhaps anywhere in the State. There was
on attempt some years ago to hove this brought to fruition with 87 1/2 % funding. The
funding I understand was in place but was defeated in 0 vote situation. So 871% of what
you ore paying os for os the capitol construction port of this which includes 0 substantial
amount of interest, unfortunately has to be paid and it is unlike other communities so
if you start to measure against other communities they do not hove that 871% sitting there.
Also it should be brought to your attention that this is something that was really put into
place in 1984, 85. You were billed for the first time in 1988, each year we hove been
operating under 0 sewer rent low that hos been revised 0 bit each year to accommodate
some of the problems that we were able td address. It is on extremely difficult and complex
problem, we ore obligated oS 0 Town and as 0 Sewer Dist. to make the payments for the
monies borrowed, the methodology used is 0 bit flexible based on the fact thot there is
o little bit of latitude in the documents that were approved by the Comptrollers Office
way bock in 1986. But, beyond that there isn't 0 lot of flexibility. We hove done the best
we con to accommodate the needs that seem to be impacting on substantial numbers of
people. With any kind of success, next years payments and payments for there down, their
charges should begin to drop significantly, not hughly but significantly. Until this time
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we hod not completed the pro;ecC the pro;ect is now essentially complete we hove hod
our lost borrowing. As you may know if you read this mornings paper and if you hod attended
o public hearing 0 year ago and again at budget time in November there was 0 final borrowing
of 2.4 million dollars during this post year to pay for the balance of the sewer district.
That money has now been borrowed we ore starting to repay that. We were successful
in working with the New York State Water Pollution Control revolving loon fund and our
Town A ttorney in submitting 73 J" of documentation the lost time and being awarded one
of the revolving loon fund loons at 0 substantially reduced interest rote, we ore paying
less than 5% interest on this newest loon because of the efforts of our Town Attorney.
That combined with approximately 5% we paid on the first 7 million dollars. So even though
the numbers that ore out there ore· rather lorge they ore significantly below what they
would hove been if we hod to fund this at 7 or 8% os the engineer had estimated. There
is no legal way for these costs to be spread throughout the Town on the entire tax base.
There is no way for them to be paid through soles tax revenue it must be paid, 011 the costs,
must be paid by the residents ond property owners of that district. Thot is the low, there
is no olternotive. You should also know that we ore trying to keep the controllable variables
in this equation as short and os low as possible. We ore trying to use os little labor os
possible. We hove less than two full time employees hondling thot deportment. We reolly
hod budgeted for three full timers we ore trying to stay at under two save some money
so thot next yeor there would be a little fund surplus ond we could opply it to reduce the
rotes. We ore also doing what we con to encourage some development in thot district in
terms of the assessed valuation in terms of water consumption. The area of the district
cannot grow. The number of acres in the district ore {ixed, that is one of the other part
of the formula. But, as the assessed value increoses it helps to spreod the base. As the
woter consumption increases it spreads the base if we are able to hove some extension
districts that tap into this larger district they wi II also help shore the load. Thot is the
direction we are moving it ;ust takes poinfully long to do this. We hove no greot ;oy in
announcing these figures, my Assistant spends most of her time, half of her time probably
working on this pro;ect, we consider it 0 general
administrative expense and we are not charging the district for her time. We will worry
about that at some future point. We ore tying to do the best we con with that in mind
I believe we ore prepared to onswer any specific questions you may hove, please if you
wont to come forward now state your name, address and lets discuss whatever you would
like.
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Ms. Nancy Kelley-Hi, My nome is Nancy Kelly and I live a 6 Meadowbrook Road in the
Town of Queensbury. I have some questions obout it, you certainly have onswered some
of them. Whot I do not understand is and I am a heovy consumer of woter, not all of the
water that I use in the Town of Queensbury goes into the sewer. But, I am poying for it.
Is there anyway thot I con elevate that? I woter my lawn, I hove a swimming pool I use
o 706 thousond gallons of water 0 year and I om poying olmost $800.00 for my $707,000
dollar home. My toxes are $3200. a year, I hove been in realistote 78 yeors and I do not
know of any $ 701,000 dollor home onywhere in this orea that pays $3200. You cannot write
off thot $800. on your income tox os yet and I understand that you ore working to word
thot, that is 0 question. Nor con I do onything else with it in terms of my escrow. My
bank will not escrow thot money. 50 it isn't 0 tax. I guess I am soying what is it, do I have
to poy for the water that doesn't go back into the sewer and whot if onything can I as a
citizen do, to get some kind of help, and does anybody want to buy my house?
Supervisor Borgos-We hove been addressing each of your concerns they have come to us
over the period of years. Way bock we said well we should give everyone 70% reduction
in terms of the ql.!antity of water used right across the board for such things as car wash
and watering the lawn whatever. Then we said that is not going to make ony difference
because if everybody is cut 70% you are ;ust going to have to increase the rate per thousand
gallons by 70% to make up for it so that won't work. What we have come up with this time
and it is on page 5 of the proposed low, it ,says that quantities of wate.r, used at any premises
which are number one, used exclusively for lawn watering or a manufocturing process or
number two, results in soid water not being deposited in the Town Sewer System and three
ore metered by 0 seporate and specially installed ond dedicated water meter to record
such use sholl not be used in calculoting the totol omount of chorges or sewer rents due
by the owners said premises under this law. Now, hopefully that move will appeal to some
people it will mean installing a special separate water meter, hoving a plumber come and
figure out with the approval of this Sewer Dept. ond I look ot our Director of Woste Water
Mr. Floherty, working out 0 system so that we con be sure definitely that we hove isolated
oseporate line for water, lawn watering, car washing or whatever and water running through
that meter would not be chorged for sewer use purposes. We have 0 couple monufocturing
facilities in this district that now will be able to do that if this goes through. One large
one thot I can think of that uses hundreds of thousonds of gallons ond they have one little
toilet on the premises the rest all goes out with the product. 50, this hopefully will address
thot concern. The rest of the concerns, I do not who might want to buy your house but
the morket is going to get better in a few days.
Ms. Kelley-If I had a well, would it make a difference?
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Supervisor Borgos-If you had a well you could certainly use your well water.
Ms. Kelley-I am thinking to ;ust disco{w,", I ,'n':" ¡ Ivn.
Councilman Montesi-Well~ one of the alternatives that a gentleman on Fort Amherst did
his usage was 150,000 gallons with two people living in the home, 0 lovely home on Ft.
Amherst, he has two lots and it is manicured, he has a sprinkler system~ so, my suggestion
was that. He had to de-water to get the pipes in the ground because the water table was
so high that if he sunk a point down ten feet he would be hitting water. So, he did, he put
his own well ;ust for purposes of sprinkling the lawn. There is on expense involved in that
but now his usage is down to like 52,000 gallons that he is paying for going through the
sewer.
Ms. Kelley-I have considered that and I know it is rather complicated when you read this
and I think even if you have worked on it 0 long time it is still complicated. But, I am trying
to determine if doing that I have to go down about LI' and I will hit water where I live.
Will that compensate even with 0 driven point, it is not ;ust the water consumption as I
understand it. It is the assessment, and the acreage.
Supervisor Borgos- You get charged on the basis of your assessment and acreage.
Ms. Kelley-But is it primarily consumption?
Supervisor Borgos-It seems to run up the bill, I believe, I will look at Kathleen for a minute,
it appears that once people get over one hundred thousand gallons a year they start to be
substantially impacted by it.
Councilman Montesi-The first fifty thousand gallons or the first seventy five thousand
gallons is a fifty dollar flat charge. ... so the first fifty thousand are not free but there
is a flat fee of fifty dollars.
Ms. Kelley-But proportionately any consumption over that, is extremely, it is three dollars
and fiftyseven cents per thousand for one of them and something else for one of the other
ones. And so, I can use 75,000 for $50. and I can use another 31,000 for $300. now I really
and truly do not undffrstand that.
Supervisor Borgos-Another 31,000 would cost you $100....
Ms. Kelley-It is 160 on one of them and then you have to odd in .the other one, I do not
understand it all but when you add it 011 up it came to $308. instead of $50. because I used
31~000 more.
Councilman Montesi-The original basis for the flat $50. fee was that in many cases os Steve
pointed out this thing is evolving and we have been trying, we take out wetlands, we have
taken out large parcels of land that were landlocked and given a reduced rate, this particular
case we hod a situation where there were a lot of single or two family homes, iust two
people living in 0 home and we felt that we wanted to be fair. Some of the seniors to,
so we hod tried to set 0 figure of 50,000 or 75,000 gallons it would iust be reflected in one
flat rate and then beyond that you are into this higher costs that you are aware of.
Ms. Kelley-One other thing and then somebody else can hove a turn, I still do not understand
the difference between being in 0 business district and living in 0 residential area? It was
my understanding that we ore paying and had to hook onto this because there was 0 sewer
in our district. It is 0 business district sewer, and yet my street is zoned R 1 why did I have
to hook onto this sewer.
Supervisor Borgos-I reread the engineers report going back to 1985 0 couple of days ago,
and at that time the engineer indicated that the primary purpose for this district is because
of this commercial development however, it was noted that there were 0 substantial number
of single family residences the largest reason for putting the sewer in was because of the
high ground water table in about 80% of that district. So, the district boundaries do include
areas for residential use and areas for commercial use. To the extent possible I think the
Town Board has attempted to pass as much of the burden, and we will hove call it that,
as much of the burden as possible onto the commercial establishments with the thought
that they have at least some opportunity to recover some of that money. Now, we do not
want to put anyone at a competitive disadvantage but at least there is a chance to put
5¢ on another product or 1 J or whatever it is get some of the money bock. Residences
do not have that opportunity we have stayed within the parameters of the regulations as
accepted by the comptrollers office, we hove looked so os not to over burden the commercial
establishments to drive them out. But, the fact is you are in the district and because you
are in, the district your there, I do not wont to say stuck, your there.
Ms. Kelley-But you ore, I mean, you had no choice in this, I lived in lots of houses in
Queensbury with a septic
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Counci Iman Monahan- There was a chQice.
Supervisor Borgos-There were, way back in 1984, 1985...
Ms. Kelley-But if you did not live in the district at that time you didn't.
Supervisor Borgos- The district has nat changed, what I am saying, if you bought property
,¿,henever you ,did. it should have been checked so you would have known that you were going
Into a sewer dIstrIct.
Ms. Kelley-It is my understanding when this was proposed it was going'to cost $7.2 million
or $7." million dollars 7.7 or whatever it was and it is 2.4 million dollars over and above
that, even that knowledge would not change whats happened and what is owed. The thing
that ~ am hav~ng the most difficulty with and I still do not understand it the way it was
explained I stIli do not understand the business district and the residential zone. There
is not, what is the connection, just because it is one great big piece of land with different
zoning?
Supervisor Borgos-It is one piece with approximately 1000 acres, some of it is residential
some of it is commercial. Commercial properties are charged the one rate residential
properties are charged at a considerably lower rate.
Ms. Kelley-But, why there, why that district, who asked. for that?
Supervisor Borgos-Because that is what happened way back in 84, 85 I think it actually
started back in the 70's and then because the big Lake George Dist. did not come through
there was a smaller district attempted to be created. Some of that was voted down and
then there was a resurgence of this in 84 and the final report was filed by the engineer
in 1985. And that was approved at that time and it went through and once it is on the books
it is extremely difficult to do anything with. We explained about a year and a half ago
now why we had to borrow the extra money all kinds of cost increases, I have the engineer
reports with me. That was all discussed at public hearings and we had no choice but to
finish it and the public agreed.
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Ms. Kelley-But I really don't think Steve, that anyone and some of you live in the district
had any ideo it was going to cost us that much money.
Councilman Monahan-Actually Nancy, if you go back and look what was projected it was
J projected that the total average cost for most homes would be around $399.00.
Ms. Kelley-I believe that, as' soy I pay about $800.
Counci Iman Monahan-But that is because you are using an unusual amount of water, but
if you were using the normal amount of water you know.
Ms. Kelley-It would be interesting to see how many people that come up use 50,000 gallons.
Counci Iman Montesi-Nancy, I just wonted to ask you two questions, number one a brief
answer, I live on Meadow Lane and when the original sewer was proposed I was delighted
to be part of it simply because in the lot that I hod I had run out of room for, because of
the high water table for leaching fields. I was pulling my hair out I con remember Joy
Sweet saying to me there is no place else to go, so to me the sewer at the proposed rate
of $399. at the time was a pretty good deal.
Ms. Kelley-I agree with you and I am not 'saying anything necessarily negative about having
a sewer other than having a choice about it and certainly I live in the same orea you do
and when we dug our foundation we went down 18" and hit water, so we trucked in 2,000
sq. ft. three feet high of fill. So, I do know what you are saying ... luckily my husband owned
the ...so we did not have to pay for the fill. But. the point is you are saying $399. which
we con live with but, it has gone up all the time and I om just, and now you are saying it
is going up again...
Supervisor Borgos-It should level off now, we did not know about this one uncertainty this
lost bit of borrowing to complete the project, the project is now done. With the other
items coming on boord, increased assessed evaluation, increased water consumption, the
operation and maintenance portion should drop. As the annual payment of principal and
interest ore mode the outstanding principal will drop and the interest will drop with it.
So, we should start going downward. I hope at 0 fairly rapid rate but it 011 depends on who
the economy goes how fast the projects gets built, how fast the extensions get approved
we should see significant reduction. I am hoping for 10% reduction next year, maybe another
10 to 15 the following year. Get it down, but it is 011 on the backs of just those taxpayers
living in just that area.
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Ms. Kelley-Ok. Thank you.
Councilman Montesi-Nancy, iust one other question, what kind 0(, yo~ get a de~ermi~ation
of the difference between your winter and summer usage at thIs pOInt your fIrst bIll, at
what point?
Ms. Kelley-Well, actually I used 21,000 gallons this last quarter and I only hod four of us
at home, now, maybe I wash too much or take too many showers, I am not being facicious
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Councilman Montesi-That would put ·you at about 80,000 that was wha,t I was at, I was at
80,000 I do not hove a pool and I didn't sprinkle so that might be one of the determining
Ms. Kelley-I think that we will probably try the driven point well at this point in time os
long os we ore going to stay there.
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Councilman Montesi-Have you normally filled your pool with Town water?
Ms. Kelley-No we had it trucked in. I never filled it with Town Water....you do not drain
it. I think the ticket for most of these people is to, actually watch consumption but before
I started making the calls before I came tonight I did not realize how much consumption
effected that $399.00 figure because my house (its most of those averages but not my sewer
tax.
Supervisor Borgos-Maybe you could look at the option of putting' 0 meter in, that is another
possibi lity.
Ms. Kelley-From what I am hearing here it is not going to save me what it is going to cost
to install it.
Councilman Monahan-Probably do a point chi aper than you con...
Supervisor Borgos-Mr. Flaherty, one hundred dollars?
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Mr. Flaherty-Are you talking about a point in lieu of everything or a point iust for irrigation?
Ms. K elley-I am not sure.
Mr. Flaherty-The one thing that you have to be careful of if you've got ground water at "-
four feet the quality of water ...
Ms. Kelley-Well, I am going to look at two things one is 0 well, where you get good water
and one is a driven point well for lawns and pool.
Mr. Flaherty-Being in the real estate business you may want to check if you go to sell that
house the bonk may require it to be on municipal water.
Ms. Kelley-Being the real estate business I am never going to sell that house, I hove got
to tell you.
Councilman Monahan-Plus the fact that you ore going to hove certain charges no matter
what because you are in a water district and a sewer district where you are hooked up or
not.
Ms. Kelley-Whether I use it or I don't. That is the other thing as a citizen...
Supervisor Borgos-You would still have your capitol construction costs even if you do not
use it. So the best that you can do is save your operation and maintenance.
Ms. Kelley-You get 0 one shot deal and that is added to the basis of your house when you
sell it once. I can write off $753.
Supervisor Borgos~Even if you go on the well basis you are still going to hove to pay annually
your Capital Construction costs so you are not going to save.
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Ms. Kelley-You hove to look at it all to see what it is going to do, but if consumption is
the ticket and I can cut down on consumption, so I can get to 50,000...
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Supervisor Borgos-We like to sell water, so I think the meter would save you having to worry
about pumps and storage tanks.
Ms. Kelley-I do not know it depends on what you come out with the meter, then people
con make a more intelligent decision. Thank you.
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Supervisor Borgos-Thonk you. Who will be next? Anyone else wont to be next?
Nome ond oddress pleose for the television comero.
Mr. Brion Horrison-Mr. Brion Horrison, I live on Ridge Rood close to where the Kelley's
live os 0 motter of foct. Consumption is not on issue for us I would guess we ore probobly
oround 60,000 but we ore poying obout 3 times whot your exomple is in taxes. You know
the reason we ore up here tolking obout this once before ond we were, I thought we were
going to get together ond tolk about it and exomine the property ond I guess...
Supervisor Borgos-I believe that was' done, a long time, right ofter you were here I believe
thot was token core of, you were concerned obout the si ze of your property I believe.
Mr. Horrison-Right, you know if you look ot Bob Eddy's historic map we are listed os the
number one property in the Town from an Historic point you know where you enter into
the Town ond is relotive to settlement ond I have to believe thot 0 lot of the quote unquote
chorocter of the ploce hos to do with the property thot surrounds it. You know from
everything from whether it is the grope vines or the blueberry bushes or whatever but thot's
you know when you are looking at now olreody poying obout three times your overage exomple
thot you got in ond consumption is not on issue so it makes no sense for us to drill 0 well
or do ony of those kinds of things. I guess whot I om soying is where does the consideration
come in here?
Supervisor Borgos-How much property do you hove, is it eight or nine ocres?
Mr. Horrison-About three ocres.
Supervisor Borgos-About three ocres.
Mr. Harrison-It is mostly in the bock but we con teor down the born ....
Supervisor Borgos-But thot wos token core of believe, Kothleen would you ...
Councilmon Monoh0n.-:We wrote thot in lost yeor, it wos my understonding.
Supervisor Borgos-Lets find out whot.
Ms. Kothy-Yes. 60% everything over one ocre..
Supervisor Borgos-Everything over one ocre there is 0 40% reduction is thot right, you
poy only for 60% of the bolan,ce.
Mr. Horrison-I think somebody forgot us, our bi II did not go down.
Supervisor Borgos-We will be hoppy to look at that first thing in the morning.
Mr. Harrison-The originol bill come out ond the bill is still there ond I hove got to tell you
its, it mokes your overoge exomple look like 0 real borgin.
Supervisor Borgos-We will be hoppy to look at thot first thing in the morning. We opologize.
Mr. Harrison-We ore three people ok, we ore three people thot ore not using excessive
amounts of woter, we do not hove ony ploce to go.
Supervisor Borgos- Thot wos reduced supposedly for last yeor too wosn't it. It is wos not
we will check ond we con hondle 0 refund on thot. We will check on that.
Mr. Horrison-I hove got to tell you it hos been 0 reol fun one for us. I welcome hearing
thot, I sure would like to heor from you ogoin.
Supervisor Borgos-It is on the record now. We will check ond if there hos been on error
we will toke core of it ond correct it, we opologize for ony inconvenience.
Mr. Horrison-Well, let me osk you 0 question, suppose you decide that whot I om poying
is not on error. Suppose you decide thot poying three times the averoge rate in the town
is not on error os for os you ore concerned.
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Supervisor Bargos-AII we will do, we will look to see if you are poying whot you ore suppose
to poy under the low see if you got the reduction thot you were suppose to get, becouse
I do remember when you came in the first time ond we went to work on it right 0 woy,
very specificolly.
Mr. Harrison-I do remember thot to, ond I olso remember the first bill and I remember
the bill thot I paid ond they ore exoctly the some.
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Supervisor Borgos-We will check on it the first thing in the morning. Kathleen knows 011
the properties by heart now. Thank you. Anyone else?
Ms. Eleanor Backon-I om Eleanor Backon, I live on Ridge Street, 331 Ridge, 0 neighbor
of Brian Harrison. I hove property that is not being used the water has been shut off why
do I have to pay the sewage when 10m not using it, in three buildings.
Supervisor Borgos-The way this sewer rent low is written you pay on the basis of the assessed
value of the property the overage WQter consumption over the post two years, the previous
two years and the acreage of the property. Now, whether you decide to use or not use
the property is up to you, if you do not use it for a period of time your overage consumption
would drop to zero then you would not be paying for anything for water. The way the law
was written was to toke core of situations where people use on awful lot of water one year
because of 0 dry summer and considerably less the next year. Not to hit them with that
hugh usage for that one dry summer. So, it is averaged over 0 two year period. We ore
still working to try to find another and better system possibly for next year. A t the moment
this seems to be working os much os the numbers ore high it seems to be doing what it
should do and that is smoothing out the cyclical impacts. If you do not use your property
for some reason at this point that is your decision.
Ms. Backon-A Iso I hove bock land that is.
Supervisor Borgos- Your property is a/~o one that was looked at very carefully and I om
sure you get the some consideration for anything over one acre. I know you come in originally
the some time Mr. Harrison come in and there were several others, we took special pains
to look specifically at those properties and they set the tone for the rest of the district.
Ms. Backon-I still feel that it, no water is being used at 011 on the three properties it does
not seem right.
Supervisor Borgos-Are those properties vacant?
Ms. Backon-Yes.
Supervisor Borgos- You ore going to keep them vacant for the next five years, ten years?
Ms. Backon-Until they ore sold, they wi II be vacant.
Supervisor Borgos-But wbat if they ore sold tomorrow?
Councilman Monahan-There ore buildings on them, right?
Supervisor Borgos-Right, there ore buildings. In fairness, we hove to create the low that
follows what was approved by the comptrollers office and is in fairness to everyone in the
district. What is here seems to be fair and reasonable for normal circumstances, you
apparently hove on unusual circumstance in that 0 couple of your properties ore vacant,
but the moment that they ore no longer vacant they will be bock to 0 normal circumstance.
Ms. Backon-Becausf! the water has been shut off for the post four and 0 half years.
Supervisor Borgos- Then you should hove 0 zero consumption which means that you should
not be charged, being paying any more than the fifty dollar flat rote.
Ms. Backon- That is right. I was charged at the overage rote of 50,000.,..
Supervisor Borgos-Well, everyone gets the $50.00 flat fee whether you use zero or 50,000.
Ms. Backon-That I do not mind but when was charged I think it was over $200. $300. dollars
when I om not using the water period.
Supervisor Borgos- You were charged for the water or the total of 011 the sewer charges
for that property?
Ms. Backon- The sewer, each property.
Supervisor Borgos-Ok, but that is where you get into the assessed valuation the acreage
involved and then the flat rote, so you could easi Iy get to $ 200.
Ms. Backon-More than that even.
Supervisor Borgos-It could be depending upon the assessed value of the properties it could
be $200. and not use any water because you ore port of that district and that is what the
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law says. We did not make the law, we just have to follow it.
Ms. Backon- Thank you.
Supervisor Borgos- You are welcome. Does anyone else wish to speak? Yes...
Ms. Barbara Pallozzi-My nome is Barbaro Pallozzi, and I live on Ridge Road in the Town
of Queensbury and I am in the some situation that Brion and his wife are in, only not to
the some extent he owns approximately one more acre than I do. . r was here last year,
the y~ar before and I probably be he,.e next year. I om asking you, Mr. Borgos if you could
explain to me, what is the benefit that 0 sewer gives to 0 single family residence? Ok,
c~n you tell me what that benefit is? And ~an you tell me how my benefit would be any
dIfferent or any more or ony less than says BrIon's or one of Mrs. Backons properties?
Supervisor Borgos-Obviously if you ore connected to the sewer district you do not hove
to own and maintain your own septic system.
Ms. Pallozzi-I understand that.
Supervisor Borgos-What you ore looking at is not 0 benefit assessment roll, I will look to
our A ttorney to keep me on the straight and narrow, you are looking at 0 sewer rent low
we would like at some point ...
Ms. Pallozzi-It is 0 special assessment district correct?
Supervisor Borgos-We would like at some point to be able to produce a benefit tax roll
which would be different from the sewer rent low we hove now. It is extremely complex
we ore working on it.
Ms. Pallozzi-But don't sewer rents as 0 matter of law hove to be imposed upon unjust
proportion to the omount of benefit received?
Supervisor Borgos-I believe if it were, I wi II look at the Attorney agoin, if it were 0 benefit
tax roll that would be. correct.
Attorney Dusek-That is 0 pretty close statement, this is 0 benefit district the point I guess
that I would note is that the formula that was used, one third ossessment, one third acreage
and one third water.
Ms. Pallozzi-I understand the benefit and the special assessments ond district whether
they be for roods, parks, etc. but the formula upon which this low is based is grossly unjust
ond inquitoble.
A ttorney Dusek-Maybe I could respond just to that comment to help you with that, first
of all it was reviewed by the Stote Comptrollers Office ond so presumably they found it
fair otherwise they would not have approved it. The other thing that I might odd is that
when you consider septic systems foreinstonce that depending upon the size of the house
involved how many bedrooms ect. it is it moy dictote 0 lorger septic system, so the omount
of usage thot it is put to.
Ms. Pollozzi-I know, there is four hundred, nine hundred whatever size..
A ttorney Dusek-So if you consider acreage, house, woter usage, which is what they ultimotely
did in 85 or 86 when then put this together when you consider all of that the amounts due
by thot formula would increase based upon the size of the house which would be logical
in the sense that the amount of the use of the system would olso presumably increase.
In otherwords a one bedroom home would use less thon 0 four bedroom home, and a four
bedroom home presumably would hove a higher assessed value would be lorger probobly
located on 0 larger piece of land more consumption of water would incur becouse there
ore more people so there is 0, I think this is just whot I am trying to do is give you some
ideo as to the rotional of the system.
Ms. Pallozzi-I know how it works and it is, I happen to be on the end of the stick where
I om poying 0 lot more, I meon, to give you an example I hove on analysis of both sides
of Ridge Rood. Ok, 0 lot of Mrs. Backons property ore poying considerably less than I om
os far os Brian, he is assessed ot one hun.dred ond one thousand dollors, ok, he has 0 2.83
acres porcel of lond he will be poying forI is acreoge $606.57 cents and $231.87 for 0 total
of $838.44 and thot is before woter. Thot is considerably higher then anyone else on the
street is paying, I am next ond I om poying $581. ok the guy next door to me hos a house
assessed at more than mine but it is on a much smoller lot. He is only going to be paying
$98.00 for his acreage, so that the size of your lot definitely impacts on the amount that
you ore paying. Yet I hove no greater benefit, as a matter of foct I olso hove 0 lot that
is legal under State Law to hove a septic system. I hove enough land to absorb 0 system
and those of us who are keeping... those of us thot ore keeping it green ore being penali zed.
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Supervisor Borgos-It is unfortunate that~ that is whot happened when this legislation wos
passed woy bock 85~ 86 when this went through the system of the Comptrollers Office ond
the Engineers proposol of three ingredients method of taxation was accepted. Where we
use acreage~ assessed valve and water consumption. That set the tone for the way this
district would operate we tried to differ from that in the very first year recogni zing exactly
what you are talking about and we were told that we cannot. We had a major lawsuit...
Ms. Pallozzi-Is there anyway where you can go in and look at the property and say alright
it was zoned for 20~000 sq. ft. give us the 20~000 at the Class designation and give us the
rest at D 1.
Supervisor Borgos-Sure~ we could do that all over Town but what would happen is that the
same few properties still have to pay the same total so if we reduced the price of the acreage
or the dollar value of the acreage we would have to make it up somewhere else we would
have to raise the water consumption rate from 50 to 100 or 150 dollars we would have to
raise the rate per thousand of assessed valuation the problem is that you got to get all'
those dollars from just that small district using all three of these components. They are~
got to be approximaÚ!/y equal value~ one third for the land~ one third for the assessed value
one third water consumption approximately.
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Ms. Pallozzi-When you wrote the law was there anything about residential vs non-residential
because I have never lived anywhere no one that lives anywhere where residential property
pay the same amount as commercial properties.
Supervisor Borgos- You are not paying the same amount you are being billed considerably
less.
Ms. Pallozzi-The same dollar amount per thousand dollars of assessed valuation and they
ore paying the some dollar amount per ocre unless they go over and there is 0 lot of
properties in the sewer district~ commercial properties that do not hit the one acre mark.
So in essence~ we are paying more.
Supervisor Borgos-You are being billed substantially less on the water consumption
commercial propert,i.iJs and there are some commercial property owners here tonight~
commercial properties get no break on their first fifty thousand or seventy five thousand
or anything they start paying the first one.
Ms. Pallozzi-But they can write it off on their taxes as a normal operating business expense
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Supervisor Borgos-But it is still a cost to them~ they would be happy to get rid of that cost~
what we have said os a Board that this district was formed primarily for the commerical
properties and they can shift some of that burden to the extent reasonable we are going
to pass that along and reduce to the extent possible to charge to the homeowner.
Unfortunately we had to borrow for the cost over runs that is what pushed it up or you
would hove seen 0 reduction in this year already. We hove had 011 the borrowing we ore
going to need now that is the end of it~ from now on everything storts to drop os quickly
as we can possibly drop it but we cannot remove properties generally from this district
we cannot expand the district easily we con have extensions but it is not easy to do things
because bonds have been sold and the bond holders hove the description of this district
in those bonds. Very~ very difficult and complex issue~ we recognize all the problems you
ore talking about tnere is no easy way for us to do anything about it.
Ms. Pallozzi- You do not see any way in the foreseeable future of the large property owners
having 0 reduction in the amount of rent thot they ore paying?
Supervisor Borgos-We hove done that last year and for this year and we certainly will look
at it again.
Ms. Pallozzi-I know what you did ...could you bring it down some more.
Supervisor Borgas-We can look at it again and see what impact.
Ms. Pallozzi-What if you brought it up.. the people with 12~000 sq. ft. instead of paying
o quarter of 252.00 they ore getting, away cheap there are some of these properties here
that you know $149.00 total for their bill a,\d he is looking at $838.00 that is not equitable.
Supervisor Borgos-We will look at it again. We will continue to modify this I am sure we
are never going to get it to solve 011 the problems but we ore certainly looking at it.
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Ms. Pallozzi-Realistically I mean~ taxes con never be equa/~ they just cannot~ you always
hove differences in assessed valuation etc. and there ore other factors but this is a wide~
wide variation.
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Supervisor ,Borgos-I agree with you.in terms of a single f~mily property another single family
property but of course all properties are not equal one IS larger one is more expensive one
has more bedrooms more bathrooms so I do not foresee the time.
Ms. Pallozzi-When I have houses around me with more bedrooms and more bathrooms paying
a awful lot less then I am paying.
Councilman Monahan-I think what she is saying Steve and I have maintained this all along
too, the people that we are penalizing ore the people who are doing the most for the Town
of Queensbury environmentally and they are loading their property with all the houses and
the roofs and putting it under roofs that they could and causing the problems in this Town
that they could they are trying to maintain the open space. We hove 0 Master Plan in this
Town who says we are trying to maintain the rural character of this Town, we are trying
to maintain the open space of this Town and yet, everything we do in this Town penalizes
the people who try to do exactly what we are saying we are trying to do.
Ms. Pallozzi-I have one neighbor who cannot offord this and he may very well lose his home
because of this, he is going to have to give it up...1 know people who will not even look
at property within the sewer district, so as for as the marketability of our property is
concerned it has gone way down.
Supervisor Borgos- I share the concern expressed by Mrs. Monahan...
Councilman Monahan-One other thing you have to look at within that sewer district and
this does not apply to all residences but some of them are in such bad areas to put in sewers
or septic systems that they might be looking at expensive systems like the Wisconsin Mound
System that really going to cost them more than their sewer taxes, so you know you cannot,
everything is not apples and apples that we are looking at is what I am ,trying to say.
Ms. Pallozzi-I understand that but this is you know, this is 0 grope vs 0 grapefruit.
Supervisor Borgos-Our big problem goes back to '84 and '85 when the Town 80ard at that
time approved the.engineers recommendations, you hove got to recognize that this was
the first maior sewer district, we hove five sewer districts in the Town of Queensbury,
this was the first maior one. Perhaps not enough consideration was given at that time
to what the impact might be in the future and some of the planning concerns that we hove
now, the fact is it was done then, that's what the Comptrollers office approved, we do
not hove the latitude now to do what we would like to do. We would like to soy to 011 of
you there is no charge at 011 for the sewer district it would make us very, very happy.
We cannot do that we ore charged under the low with fulfilling these responsibilities and
raising this money and on March 75th we hove to pay for this district iust under six hundred
thousand dollars, five hundred and fifty some thousand dollars, make another interest
payment later in the year and that burden is there and it is going to be there for 0 number
of more years.
Ms. Pallozzi- Thank you.
Supervisor Borgos-You are welcome. Anyone else? Mr. Harrison again, nome again for
the record please?
Mr. Brion Harrison-Brion Harrison, 329 Ridge Rood, again I you end put pitting neighbors
against neighbors' on these things when you start playing with figures and it is really
unfortunate thing. Obviously I sympathize with what you said Betty because we worked
very, very hard to keep that properly looking the way it has for 0 long, long time. We also
were aware of the rational of the formulas that come down and os you said approximately
equal to consumption, assessed valuation, and property. Our assessed valuation is about
four times our consumption charge and our property valuation is about ten times our
consumption charge. Now, you tell we where the equity is in the three charges there, I..
Supervisor Borgos-What we do is toke the amount of money that needs to be raised..
Mr. Harrison-I understand that
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Supervisor Borgos-One third over here and then we iust split it up, it is mathematical.
Mr. Harrison-But the way it was represented to the public and the way I assume it was
evaluated by the A ttorney General's Offi¿e is ok, we ore approximately trying to deal with
these issues os they ore because you ore dealing with 0 benefit and the benefit to us and
the three people who live in our house is no greater than anyone else. Now, I con point
to 0 house on our street that has less than a half acre less than I do, in otherwords they
ore, plus 0 swimming pool and they are paying less than half my taxes on this particular,
the sewer charge, less than half by sewer charge. So, there is wide gross variations~ very
wide gross variations that hove and I cannot understand the rational for it. I cannot
understand the rational why you want to take and charge someone who is trying to maintain
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on historic piece of property and charge them ten times the consumption rote, because
they hove 0 nice looking piece of property.
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Councilman Monahan-I think what Brion is maybe saying is that we ...maybe we ore weighting
these three categories wrong.
Supervisor Borgos-We only hove 0 very little bit of latitude os for os those weights ore
concerned.
Mr. Harrison-But, if the issue is conservation and you ore looking at someone with property
and you charge them ten times their consumption rote lust for their v,acant property then
what you ore doing is that you ore asking them to subdivide so they con ovoid the expense.
Supervisor Borgos-Hopefully not.
Councilman Monahan-You ore forcing them to.
Supervisor Borgos- Anyone else? Ron you started to soy something befQr,e.
Councilman Montesi-Just, one question that is for the public and also for my information.
A malor development went in town at some point Hiland Pork. Their flow was going to
force us to be above four hundred thousand gallons 0 day our sewer district is contracted
with the City of Glens Falls for on annual flow four hundred thousand gallons 0 day. When
Hiland Pork was, come off the line they hod some money that they hod to pay the sewer
district for upsizing the pump station and some other factors plus what they owed the city.
to go into their line. A Iso, we hove 0 written agreement that said that, when we get above
four hundred thousand gallons 0 day, Hiland Pork is going to hove to pay for 0 pipe going
from Boy and Sanford Street down Sanford Street in the City to Glen Street, because
specifically the pipe at· Boy at Sanford could not toke over four hundred thousand gallons
a day. I was down talking to Don Coalts the other day and he tells us that we ought to
start looking at that prolect rather quickly because we ore at 330,000 gallons right now.
A minimal flow is coming from Hiland Pork unfortunately what, with the economy that
turned soft and the real estate market, os you know Nancy the new home development
that was suppose to happen here isn't. So, they ore only using seven or eight thousand gallons
o day right now, I thÎnk if the figures ore correct that I sow. But, I lust wont to make sure
that we os 0 Town hove that commitment from that developer that once we get over 400,000
gallons 0 day it is not this central sewer districts responsibility to pay for that ...and I will
hope that we ore 011 on key on that, if I om wrong we better know now because that is another
$170,000. we estimated that to be $100.00 0 ... '
Supervisor Borgos- That agreement has been reached, I do not believe its been signed yet,
I om not sure of the numbers but I do not believe that it calls for the baffel installation
at Sanford Street under precisely those conditions in fact I sow 0 report lost year that
indicated that there was still excess capacity of 3 million gallons 0 day at Sanford and
Boy. There is 0 provision in that agreement for Hiland Pork to pickup their proportionate
cost of the diversion from Sanford over to Glen there is 0 provision for Hiland Pork to make
the full payment to the City for their number of gallons 011 that is there and the payments
will be coming to the Town momentarily os soon os we hove 0 minute to finish the Hiland
Pork Agreement with interest going bock to 1990. Those payments to the extent of $50,000.
toward the Capitol Costs were credited this year to reduce the capitol construction costs
of this prolect. If you look at the budget for this year there is 0 $50,000. item called fund
appropriation that 'reduces specifically the capitol construction cost with the monies coming
from Hiland Pork there would be another $50,000. next year and $50,000. the following
year and approximotely $35,000. the next year. All that money will come in at one time
but the proposal is to apply it 0 bit at a time toward meeting that. We cannot pay these
bonds off early they ore not ... there ore locked in for 20 year serial bond arrangement
so the thought was to, apply $50,000. for several years at the some time the assessed value
of the district will be increasing so that by itself should further reduce the obligations
of the people living in that district. We ore looking at 011 this and again, Hiland Pork I
feel quite comfortable with there ore 0 couple of other proposals out there right now that
may happen within the next couple of months along Boy Rood and specifically along Route
9 that will bring other contract customers into this district to pour more money into the
revenue side of this equation, 011 things being equal that should reduce the rates that we
hove been looking at, and hopefully that is our goal and hopefully that will be accomplished. /
That is the only way that we con make this thing get down to some reasonable' numbers
is by encouraging growth in the district and 0 lot of people to not like to hear that but
if you encourage growth in the district, m'ore people and more dollars will be there to shore
the costs. If there is no growth in the district then the some relatively few people hove
to pay more. We ore trying to get out of that and it is not 0 political decision none of us
enloy doing this it is lust something that the low says we hove to do and the obligation
is there. The new shopping center, Quaker PlaZQ at Glenwood and Quaker will help
substantially there is 0 restaurant there, restaurants ore big users of water. The new Embers
Restaurant down on Quaker Rood is connected to the district, that will help substantially,
o place called Aviation Moll is going to be expanding significantly that will help. All those
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things will help this district. The quicker the better, I would like to see it double in assessed
value and water consumption and cut everything in half. Anyone else?
Mr. Ted Young-My name is Ted Young I am on the Boord over at Westwood. I ;ust, I am
asking for a little clarification. In quickly reading the sheet over I noticed that there doesn't
seem to be any category that specifically fits our development. I am talking about the
vacant land. You toke the number of units which at the moment is 40 you divide it into
73 acres, therefore its obviously he has 0 higher rote for all'of those acres. But the individual
homeowners are paying the water, sewer tax, individually and the vacant land is owned
in common, it is not so I would think it ought to be treated os an individual thing. In
otherwords the first acre and then thé balance would be at the lower rate. '
Supervisor Borgos-Again in fairness, we looked at this very specific case in fairness, we
said how do we treat 011 people, people with 0 single family residences get a certoin rate
for that residents and the first acre of land. Anything beyond the first acre they get a
significantly reduced rate. We look at your situation the owner there own really the footprint
of their building and they ore billed directly exactly the number of square feet percentage
of the acre for that. Now, the rest of the land is like the front lawn of other people or
the bock yard of other people it is on amenity to the property. It does not seem appropriate
to soy well, the extra 4 J. or 5 acres whatever it is owned by one party known as the
homeowners association of Westwood or whatever your name is. It is over one acre so
therefore it should be treated os vacant land. That doesn't seem appropriate but that is
one thing this Board can disagree with it seems unfair to those people who have an acre
or on acre and a half and hove to pay for the privilege of having a lawn that those of you
who choose to live at Westwood specifically would not pay anything for your lawns and
your shrubberies that is a little uncomfortable.
Mr. Young-The question though in effect we have 73 acres of vacant land, lawns etc. by
the formula that they hove here if I understand it which is my question we are paying the
two fifty two rate for all 73 acres.
Supervisor Borgos-That is correct.
Mr. Young-We don't get any reduction.
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Supervisor Borgos- That is correct because you have 40 residences and in theory you would
hove to go past 40 acres before you got 0 break.
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Mr. Young-Right. It is ;ust a clarification, it seems that we ore getting paid we are getting
hit on the two fifty two on our individual homes plus we are paying the full freight on the
balance of the property.
Supervisor Borgos- You are only paying a percentage of that two fifty twa on your home,
you are not paying, it isn't two fifty two ...
Mr. Young-We ore paying for the footprint of the house.
Supervisor Borgos-Just the footprint which maybe 2,000 sq. ft. one/twenth sa you might
be paying $ 72.00 for the land port.
Mr. Young-I agree, ;ust looking at the classification, incidentally the vacant land doesn't
have any water connection at all.
Supervisor Borgos-Correct.
Mr. Young-Which I am sure it does not m'ean anything at this stage of the game, but I ;ust
wanted to clarify that so I understand it correctly. Thank you.
Supervisor Borgos-Yes, Sir, Thank you. Anyone else? Hearing no more voices, seeing no
more hand we will close this public hearing. You may no( believe this but we seriously
want to reduce those charges and we are doing everything we are standing on our heads
and doing somersaults the Town A ttorney and I have visited A Ibany, we have had countless
phone conversations we hove worked with A ttorneys we have worked with Accountants,
Kathleen Kathy has worked on this unbelievable number of hours, we call her the sewer
lady around the building she has worked 0 good share of the year trying to cut those costs
down and we ore going to keep trying we are doing the best that we can. It is our obligation
to get this thing in place, collect the modey and pay the bills and try again to cut it down.
I would like to see us get down to the $ 250.00 a year range for the typical household I would
feel more comfortable.
Councilman Montesi-On the some token ;ust in case you happen to be talking to anybody
at Hiland Park there are in an entirely different rote structure for sewer, Hiland Park the
development, Gary Bowen's property they pay for and put all of the infrastructure in, the
pipes and the manholes etc. so that there is no capitol investment there is no bond to pay
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off when you buy a lot or build a house in Hiland Park part of the cost ?f t~at lot is really
reflected in the fact that the infrastructure there so when somebody In Hiland Park gets
o sewer bilì from Queensbury Central what it really is the usage fee, flow and the ...
Supervisor Borgos-They are charged solely on the basis of assessed valuation, only assessed
valuation they ore not charged for water consumption they ore not charged for acreage
only on assessed valuation in that district.
Councilman Montesi-And that is a much lower rote and you would have to look at that
and say gee why are they paying less this is only informative in the sense that, that whole
infrastructure was put in prior to the development.
Supervisor Borgos-But they do not think that they ore paying less because there are so
relatively few properties owners out there that the cost per typical house out there is
extremely high.
Councilman Montesi-I played 0 very hard game of golf one day with Wayne and ...
Mr. Ted Young-I am glad you brought this up because the same situation ...
Supervisor Borgos-St()te your name again please ;ust for the record.
Mr. Ted Young-My name is Ted Young, the some situation prevails at Westwood in otherwords
it is 0 private road 011 of the connections the sewer connections_JJre put in prior to being
connected, in fact they hod a separate system there prior to being connected to the sewer
so this should be similar, I was not aware of the Hiland Pork thing but this seems to be
the same.
Supervisor Borgos-Except the only thing that Westwood paid for was the connection, the
lateral from the main trunk on Glenwood A venue into the district, Hiland Pork paid far
011 the laterals 01/ the distribution the pumping station the whole thing until it tops into
the pumping station on Meadowbrook is a totally different boll game, it is entirely separate
sewer district. You are not 0 separate sewer district you ore on 0 separate lateral.
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Councilman Montesi-Basically, Mr. Young your street has not been dedicated so that what
you have, you have 0 driveway with a sewer line going out to the main road you can think
of the 40 homes os one unit and you are in the sewer district you have one lateral hookup
there happens to be 40 homes on it and each one is paying their fair share. A little bit
different...
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Mr. Young- You brought it up.
Councilman Montesi-I brought it up because somebody is going to ask the question one
of these days how come Hiland Pork is paying less and...
Mr. Young-10m sure they ore going to, we keep asking questions 011 the time.
Supervisor Borgos- That is .what we are here for, happy to have you it keeps us aI/ in business.
Ok. The public hearing is closed...8:05 P.M.
Any other comments from the Board Members?
RESOLUTION TO ENACT LOCAL LAW NUMBER 1, 7997, ENTITLED A LOCAL LAW
IMPOSING SEWER RENTS FOR THE QUEENSBUR Y QUAKER ROAD SEWER DISTRICT
RESOL UTlON NO. 779, 7997, Introduced by Mr. Ronald Montesi who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mrs. Marilyn Potenza:
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is desirous of amending the current
Sewer Rent Low in, effect for the Central Queensbury/Quaker Road Sewer insofar as it
applies to 0" for the 1991 calendar year and thereafter, and
WHEREAS, the said current Sewer Rent Law was lost amended and adopted on the 9th
day of April, 1990, os Local Law Number 2 of 1991, and is entitled a Local Low Imposing
Sewer Rents for the Central Queensbury Quaker Rood Sewer District enacted imposing
sewer rents for the Central Queensbury Quaker Sewer District in the Town of Queensbury,
County of Warren, N. Y. enacted pursuan\t to Article 14(P} of the General Municipal Law
and Municipal Home Rule Law of the State of New York, and
WHEREAS, a copy of the proposed amendments to the Sewer Rent Law were presented
at 0 meeting of the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury on the 4th day of February,
1991, and
WHEREAS, the said proposed amended Sewer Rent Low generally:
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7} amends and/or modifies and increases the rates or fees to be assessed as sewer rents
within the Central Queensbury Quaker Road Sewer District, and
2} adds new provisions relating to assessments or rents imposed on condominiums,
townhouses, or other like developments, and ad;usts and lessens in certain instances those
rents or assessments based on water used exclusively for lawn watering or manufacturing
processes, with the remaining provisions of said Local Law remaining unchanged, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board, at the aforesaid meeting of February 4, 7997 directed that
a public hearing be held on FebruarY' 25, 7997, and, in it Resolution, directed that the Town
Clerk publish notice of said hearing ten (70) days prior to the meeting, and
WHEREAS, on February 25, 7997, a public hearing with regard to the proposed amended
Sewer Rent Law was duly conducted, and
WHEREAS, a copy of the said proposed amendments to the Sewer Rent Law are presented
at this meeting,
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
RESOL VED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby enacts the proposed
amended Sewer Rent Law to be known as Local Law Number 2, 7997, the same to be titled
and contain such provisions as are set forth in a copy of the proposed amended Sewer Rent
Law presented at this meeting, and
BE IT FUR THER
RESOL VED, that the Town Clerk of the Town of Queensbury is hereby directed to file
the said Local Law with the New York State Secretary of State in accordance with the
provisions of the Municipal Home Rule Law and that said Local Law will take effect
immediately and as soon as allowable under law.
Duly adopted this 25th day of February, 7997, by the following vote:
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Aye: Mrs. Potenza, Mr. Montesi, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Kurosaka
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(Local Law to be found at end of Minutes)
OPEN FORUM
8: 75 P.M.
Mr. Bob Tyrer-Owner of Glenwood Manor-Requested that the Town Board reconsider the
fee charged to Transient Merchant Markets...the fee of $ 7,050.00 too much money...we
only bring in 4-5 transient merchants the other vendors are local ...noted that we are creating
revenue for the Town of Queensbury, motel uses, gasoline uses, restaurant uses ... we are
running a highly cultured operation..1 believe we should be grandfathered... this is our ninth
year we are doing this as a show...
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Supervisor Borgos-Explained the background of the Local Law...noted that we can look
at revising the Local Law...
Mrs. Susan Goetz-I am here representing the Glens Falls League of Women Voters...p~ssed
out a gift to the Town Board, the League is celebrating the 75th anniversary year of the
League of Women Voters of the United States..
Mr. Pliney Tucker-Ward 4, February 4th the Board passed a resolution putting a light at
the Town Court, noted how quickly this was put up...also the last meeting you passed a
resolution regarding assessment on properties along Lake George...
Supervisor Borgos-Noted that we have re~ained the services of a professional firm to begin
the re-valuation of the Town specifically those parcels which are on the shores of Lake
George...in the near future we will retain someone to do the commercial properties...most
of the rest of the Town will be done in-house...reassessment to be completed in 1993.
Mr. Tucker-Does this reassessment have anything to do with problems in their assessment
last time?
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Supervisor Borgos-I would not say directly.
Mr. Tucker-Question regarding landfill-Questioned if the tipping fee to dump from other
communities into the Queensbury landfill is to be used for closure who pays for the dumping
now?
Supervisor Borgos-Noted that this is under negotiations... we have proposed a number which
would include a major portion of that number going into our current reserve fund for the
landfill closure just adding to the fund that is already there.
Mr. Tucker-With the new census figures wi II this increase our representation on the County
Board?
Supervisor Borgos- There wi II be a reevaluation of the voting power at the County Board
level as soon as the census is finali zed...my quess is that Queensbury will pickup a substantial
number of votes at the County Board...
Mr. Tucker-Will this increase our representation on the County Board?
Supervisor Borgos-That is a possibility, I am not sure of the legal process...
Mr. Tucker-Noted he would like to see representation on the County level for Ward 4...
Question regarding Special District...if a district is already established can another area
be brought into the district, when it does not have enough assessed valuation to support
it?
Supervisor Borgos-Probably not...
Mr. Tucker-Noted a situation regard property divided between Corinth Rood Water Dist.
and Clendon Brook Water Dist. and a portion of the property cannot be reached by the
Clendon Brook Water Dist. ...
Supervisor Borgos-If that is the problem I om sure there is some way to serve them..
suggested that the people involved bring in their bills and let us review this...
Ms. Eleanor Backon-Ridge Street-Questioned why the property in the bock at 339 why is
it assessed for a sewer when there no sewer and it cannot be placed.
Supervisor Borgos-If it is within the sewer district boundary then it is assessed,
noted that 011 information that was brought in before was considered in detail...
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Mr. Paul Naylor-Highway Supt.-We lost on old pol this week Dr. Eisenhart he was 0 good
Boord Member and 0 good friend...
Supervisor Borgos-Asked for further comments...hearing none the Open Forum is closed...
Councilman Potenza-Reported to the Boord on the Association of Towns Meeting in N. Y.
City....
Supervisor Borgos-Spoke to the Town Boord regarding a meeting in Albany, joint hearing
for the Senate Fir'ance Committee and the Assembly Ways and Means Committee...noted
that he spoke against the landfill closure, asked to have created the legislation necessary
to suspend indefinitely the landfill closure process... Noted that the Town of Queensbury
has agreed to be the consolidated landfill for Warren County...
Discussion held in regard to recycling, Warren County to hove further meetings...
Discussion on raising landfill fees... Commercial Haulers to be raised to $9.00 per cubic
yard $3.50 of that for operation and $5.50 to be used for closure effective March 18th.
Gate Fees $3.00 1.00 of that for operation $2.00 to be used for closure...effective dote
April 8th (to give time to have gate changed)
(Town A ttorney will frame proper resolution)
Mr. Turner-How much money is in the closure fund...
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Supervisor Borgos-It is 0 little bit over ,a million dollars...and it is.Jnvested in CD's in a
variety of bonks... \
Mr. Turner-What is the expected closure costs?
Supervisor Bargas-Four to Eight Million Dollars...
Mr. Turner-How much of an impact will the other Towns in the County have on our landfill...
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Supervisor Borgos-Negligable...
Councilman Monahan-How much cloy hove we transported up there yet and what is the
cost per ton.
Mr. Naylor-Noted that the figures ore ot the office...
Supervisor Borgos-Noted that we hove hod 0 series of accidents at the corner of Luzerne
Rood and West Mt. Road...extra stop, signs hove been installed at the County Intersection,
the neighbors hove asked for 0 blinking light...
Announced 0 Special Town Boord Meeting on Thursday at 2:00 P.M. Supervisor's Conference
Room...for Resolutions that were not ready for tonights meeting..
L tr. Penny Liapes-requesting permission to extend mobile home permit time...
RESOLUTION EXTENDING PERMIT TIME-MOBILE HOME
RESOL UTlON NO. 110, 1991, Introduced by Mr. Ronald Montesi who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mrs. Marilyn Potenza:
WHEREAS, Penny J. Liapes previously filed on application for 0 mobile home outside 0
mobile home court permit in accordance with Paragraph 2 Section I.{ of Ordinance Number
72 for the regulations of Mobile Homes and Mobile Home Courts in the Town of Queensbury
to temporarily locate 0 mobile home at property situated at RD3 Warren Lone, Queensbury,
New York and
WHEREAS, said permit expired os of December 37, 7990 and
WHEREAS, Penny J. Liapes has requested a further extension of time of three months
during which time to leave the mobile home placed on the fore described property
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
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RESOL VED, that the Town Boord of the Town of Queensbury hereby finds that the previous
applicotion filed by Penny J. Liapes is satisfactory and be it further
RESOL VED, that the Tawn Board of the Tawn of Queensbury pursuant ta Paragraph 2A
Section L¡ of Local Low for 7986 hereby authorizes the Town Clerk to grant a three month
permit to park the mobile home outside 0 mobile home court in allowing Penny J. Liapes
to place a mobile home on property located at RD3 Warren Lane, Queensbury, N. Y. in
accordance with the terms of the ordinance.
Duly adopted this 25th day of February, 7997. by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Potenza, Mr. Montesi, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
Noes: None
Absent:Mr. Kurosaka
RESOLUTION REGARDING PURCHASE OF DOZER AND PAN FOR USE AT THE
QUEENSBUR Y/GLENS FALLS LANDFILL
RESOL UTlON NO. 117, Introduced by Mrs. Marilyn Potenza who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Ronald Montesi:
WHEREAS, the Town Boord of the Town of Queensbury is desirous of authorizing and
approving the purchase of 0 dozer and pan being that of on Army Surplus Vehicle,
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
RESOL VED, the Town Boord of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes and approves
the purchase of the afore described doze'r and pan which equipment shall be used for the
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of the aforesaid equipment from the Landfill Reserve Account with the number to be given
to the Accounting Dept. by the Town Supervisor.
Duly adopted this 25th day of February, 1991 by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Potenza, Mr. Montesi, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Kurosaka
RESOL UTlON TO APPROVE MINUTES
RESOLUTION NO. 711, 7997, Introduced by Mrs. Marilyn Potenza who moved for its adoption
seconded by Mr. Ronald Montesi:
RESOL VED, that the Town Board minutes of February 4, 1991 be and hereby are approved.
Duly adopted this 25th day of February, 1991 by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Potenza, Mr. Montesi, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Kurosaka
RESOLUTION TO APPROVE MINUTES
RESOLUTION NO. 113, 1991, Introduced by Mrs. Marilyn Potenza who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Ronald Montesi:
RESOL VED, that the Town Board minutes of February 14, 1991 be and hereby are approved.
Duly adopted this 25th day of February, 1991 by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Potenza, Mr. Montesi, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Kurosaka
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(Bids on file for Water Dept. Chemicals)
RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT BIDS FOR CHEMICALS
RESOLUTION NO. 714, 1991, Introduced by Mrs. Marilyn Potenza who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Ronald Montesi:
WHEREAS, the Director of Purchasing for the Town of Queensbury, Warren County, New
York, duly advertised for bids for liquid chlorine, liquid caustic soda, and liquid aluminum
sulfate pursuant to, Town of Queensbury Water Department Specifications, and
WHEREAS, the firm of K.A. Steel Chemicals, Inc., has submitted the lowest bid for the
liquid chlorine, the firm of Jones Chemicals, Inc., has submitted the lowest bid for the
liquid caustic soda, and the firm of Holland Company, Inc., has submitted the lowest bid
for the liquid aluminum sulfate, copies of the quotes being attached hereto, and
WHEREAS, Thomas K. Flaherty, Town Water Superintendent, has recommended that the
bid be awarded to the aforesaid bidder,
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
RESOL VED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, Warren County, New York,
hereby awards the bid for liquid chlorine to K.A. Steel Chemicals, Inc., the bid for liquid
caustic soda to Jones Chemicals, Inc., and the bid for liquid aluminum sulfate to Holland
Company, Inc., and that said chemicals be, paid for from the appropriate Water Department
Account. \
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Duly adopted this 25th day of February, 1991, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Potenza, Mr. Montesi, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
Noes: None
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Absent: Mr. K urosaka
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING RETURN OF APPROPRIATED AMOUNTS TO UNRESERVED
FUND BALANCE
RESOLUTION NO. 115, 1991 Introduced by Mrs. Morilyn Potenza who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Ronald Montesi: '
WHEREAS, the Town Boord of the Town of Queensbury, by previous resolution no. 666
doted November 79, 7990, increased appropriations in the Capitol Improvements Account,
W7-26-5-9957-900 in the amount of $89,360.00, with the source of the fund having come
from the Unreserved Fund Balance of the Queensbury Water District (W nand
WHEREAS, a portion of the said $89,360.00 was to be used for the purchase of certain
property on behalf of the Water District, and
WHEREAS, subsequent to the aforesaid resolution, 0 further resolution was adopted likewise
authori zing a transfer of additional funds for the said purchase of. land, and
WHEREAS, the purchase has been made in accordance with the second resolution bearing
no. 725, and the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury desires to authorize the return
of the appropriated amounts of $29,787.52 to the Unreserved Fund Balance,
NOW, THEREFORE, BElT
RESOL VED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes the reduction
in appropriations of WI-27-5-9957-900 (Capital Improvements) by the amount of $20,787.52,
and reduce the Appropriated Fund Balance in WI (Queensbury Water Fund) by the amount
of $20,787.52, and amend the 1990 Queensbury Consolidated Water District Budget.
Duly adopted this 25th day of February, 7997, by the following vote:
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Ayes: Mrs. Potenza, Mr. Montesi, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Kurosaka
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SUPERVISOR TO SIGN SERVICE AWARD PROGRAM
A DMINISTRA TlON AGREEMENT
RESOLUTION NO. 116, 1991, Introduced by Mrs. Betty Monahan who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mrs. Marilyn Potenz.a:
WHEREAS, an agreement with Edward J. Holahan, ASA, President of EJH Employee Benefit
Plan Services, Inc., entitled, "Service A word Program Administration Agreement," with
an attached Addendum, has been prepared, and
WHEREAS, the aforesaid agreement has been reviewed and approved, in form, by the Town
A ttorney, and is presented to this meeting,
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
RESOL VED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby approves of the aforesaid
agreement andhereby, authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor to execute said agreement.
Duly adopted this 25th day of February, 7997, by the following vote:
Ayes; Mrs. Potenzo, Mr. Montesi, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
- Noes; None
Absent: Mr. Kurosaka
DISCUSSION HELD RE:LANDFILL - solution for individuals who do not own a vehicle and
use a friend or neighbors vehicle...have the Qsby. resident apply for the sticker and use
the tax map as identification and the owner of the vehicle name and address and have the
owner of the vehicle state that only itpms from Qsby. or C.F. will be deposited at the
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RESOLUTION REGARDING LANDFILL PERMIT FOR COMMERCIAL SOUD WASTE
HAULERS
RESOLUTION NO. 117,1991, Introduced by Mrs. Betty Monahan who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mrs. Marilyn Potenza:
WHEREAS, the Town Boord of the Town of Queensbury, os the governing board and the
administrator of the Town of Queensbury City of Glens Falls Landfill located off Ridge
Rood, and the transfer station site located off Luzerne Rood in the Town of Queensbury,
and
WHEREAS, the Town Boord of the Town of Queensbury, os administrator for the said landfill
site and transfer station recently implemented 0 permit system whereby residents of the
Town of Queensbury and the City of Glens Falls were required to purchase 0 permit at
o fee of $ 7.00 for vehicles being used to haul solid waste to the said landfill site or transfer
station, and
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WHEREAS, the Town Boord of the Town of Queensbury desires to supplement the aforesaid
permit program to provide for permits that may be purchased and used by contracting firms
not residing in or having 0 business in the Town of Queensbury or City of Glens Falls, but
transporting solid waste from residences or businesses within the Town of Queensbury or
City of Glens Falls to the said landfill or transfer station site in furtherance of their
contracting businesses,
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
RESOL VED, that the Town Boord of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes and directs
that the Town Supervisor of the Town of Queensbury, working with the Town Clerk of the
Town of Queensbury, sholl establish and implement 0 system whereby 0 permit cord is issued
to contracting firms which do not reside or hove 0 business within the Town of Queensbury
or City of Glens Falls, and which do, os port of their business, transport solid waste from
residences or busine~es within the Town of Queensbury or City of Glens Falls to the landfill
or transfer station, and
BE IT FUR THER
RESOL VED, that os port of the system established for permitting the aforesaid persons
or businesses to transport and deposit solid waste at the Town of Queensbury/City of Glens
Falls Landfill that the Town Supervisor develop and the Landfill Superintendent maintain
o form whereby persons wi II sign indicating the content of the waste and the origin of the
waste, os well os signing the aforesaid form, and be it
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BE IT FUR THER
RESOL VED, that the fee for the permits authorized herein sholl be in the amount of $25.00
per calendar year and any permits issued during the 7997 calendar year and expiring at
the end of 7997 sholl be issued at the full rote of $25.00 and not be prorated, and
BE IT FUR THER
RESOL VED, that 011 funds and proceeds received in connection with the aforesaid permit
process sholl be deposited in the General Fund Miscellaneous Revenues Account" No.:
07-2770.
Duly adopted this 25th day of February, 7997, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Potenza, Mr. Montesi, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Kurosaka
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RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING WITHDRAW,AL Ff/IIM RECREATION ASSESSMENT RESERVE
FUND #61 \
RESOL UTlON NO. 118,1991, Introduced by Mrs. Marilyn Potenza who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Ronald Montesi:
WHEREAS, the Town Boord of the Town of Queensbury has previously established 0
Recreation Assessment Reserve Fund bearing the accounting verification number of Fund
#67, and
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WHEREASþ the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is desirous of transferring $30,000.00
from the of ores aid Recreation Assessment Reserve Fund #67Þ into the Hovey Pond Capital
Project Fund #82Þ and
WHEREASþ the sum to be transferred from the Recreation Assessment Reserve Fund #67Þ
will be expended for improvements to be made at Hovey Pond ParkÞ said improvements
to be made at Hovey Pond Park, said improvements to include those necessary to regrade
the areas about the pondÞ repair a spillwayÞ and deepen the pondÞ to benefit the entire
communityÞ including those subdivision and multi-family de velopmentsÞ the developers
of which have previously paid fees in lieu of dedicating land for recreational purposes as
required by lawÞ and
WHEREASþ the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury is authorized by Section 6(c) of
the General Municipal Law of the State of New York to withdrawôrid expend funds from
the aforesaid Recreation Assessment Reserve Fund #67Þ in accordance with the terms
and conditions set forth thereinÞ
NOWÞ THEREFORE BE IT
RESOL VED~ that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes a withdrawal
and expenditure from the Recreation Assessment Reserve Fund #61, in the total amount
of $30þOOO.00 to be deposited in the Hovey Pond Capitol Project Fund #82Þ to make
improvements
at the Hovey Pond ParkÞ and
BE IT FUR THERÞ
RESOL VEDþ that the Town Boord of the Town of Queensbury hereby further directs that
in the event there ore any funds remaining in the said Hovey Pond Capitol Project Fund
#82þ after the completion of the project, or in the event that said project is not undertakenÞ
the money in the said account sholl be returned to the Recreation Assessment Reserve
Fund #6 7þ and
BE IT FUR THER
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RESOL VEDþ that the Town Boord of the Town of Queensbury hereby further funds that
the withdrawal and expenditure for the previously identified recreation project at Hovey
Pond Pork is an expenditure for improvements or items of equipment for which the Reserve
Fund was establishedþ and
RESOL VEDþ that the Town Boord of the Town of Queensbury hereby finds that the $30ÞOOO.OO
amount transferred from the Recreation Assessment Reserve Fund #67þ sholl be used to
improve the Hovey Pond ParkÞ which is an existing parkÞ and that it will serve the Town's
residential neighborhoods and subdivisions and multi-family dwel/ingsÞ the developers of
which have heretofore contributed fees in lieu of developing recreational areasþ and
BE IT FUR THER
RESOL VEDþ that this resolution shall be subject to a permissive referendum in accordance
with the provisions of Article 7 of the Town Law and the Town Clerk of the Town of
Queensbury is herf!by authorized and directed to public and post such notices and take such
other actions as may be required by law.
Duly adopted this 25th day of Februaryþ 7997, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. PotenzaÞ Mr. Montesiþ Mrs. MonahanÞ Mr. Borgos
Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Kurosaka
RESOL UTlON A UTHORIZlNG SUPER VISOR TO SIGN CONSUL TlNG SER VICES AGREEMENT
BETWEEN TOWN OF QUEENSBUR Y AND LA VERNE 8. FAGEL REGARDING LANDFILL
CLOSURE
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RESOLUTION NO., 119þ 1991~ Introduced by Mrs. Betty Monahan who moved for its adoptionÞ
seconded by Mr. Ronald Montesi:
WHEREASþ the Town of Queensbury has agreed to an Order on Consent with the Deportment
of Environmental Conservation of the State of New YorkÞ concerning the closure of its
landfill located adjacent to Ridge Rood in the Town of Queensbury, and is currently planing
and arranging for the closure of all or a portion of its landfillþ and
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WHEREASþ Ms. LaVerne B. Fagel has offered to adviseþ assist and consult with the Town
of Queensþury and the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury and such officers as may
be designated by the Town Board of the Town of Queensburyþ in connection with the said
landfill closure project and has presented background and qualifications which indicate
that her assistance and advice to the Town will assist it in arranging for the clqsure of
the aforesaid landfi IIÞ and
WHEREASþ on agreement with LaVerne B. Fogel entitledÞ "Consulting Services Agreement
Between the Town of Queensbury and LaVerne B. Fagel/' has been preparedÞ and
WHEREASþ the aforesaid agreement has been reviewed and approvedÞ in formÞ by the Town
Attorney Þ and is presented to this meetingþ
NOWÞ THEREFORE BE IT
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RESOL VEDþ that the Town Boord of the Town of Queensbury hereby approves of the oforcsoid
agreement and hereby authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor to execule suid agreement.
Duly adopted this 25th day of FebruaryÞ 1991þ by the fOllowing vote:
Ayes: Mrs. PotenzaÞ Mr. Montesiþ Mrs. MonahanÞ Mr. Borgos
Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Kurosaka
RESOL UTlON APPROVING A UDIT OF BILLS
RESOL UTlON NO. 130, 1991þ Introduced by Mr. Ronald Montesi who moved for its odoptionÞ
seconded by Mrs. Marilyn Potenza:
RESOL VEDþ that Audit of Bills os listed on Abstract doted February 25þ 1991 and numbered
90-6634 and 91-200 (;Q 91-88000 and totaling $390þ873.48 be and hereby is approved.
Duly adopted this 25th day of Februaryþ 7991 by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Potenzaþ Mr. Montesiþ Mrs. MonahanÞ Mr. Borgos
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Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Kurosaka
RESOLUTION SETTING LANDFILL FEES
RESOLUTION NO. 131, 1991, Introduced by Mr. Ronald Montesi who moved for its adoptionÞ
seconded by Mrs. Betty Monahan:
RESOL VEDþ that the Town Boord of the Town of Queensbury in its capacity os administrator
and in its capacity of the Town Boord of the Town of Queensbury which is the owner of
the Town of Queensbury City of Glens Falls Landfill and Transfer Station on Luzerne Rood
hereby determines it is appropriate and necessary due to anticipated costs to be incurred
with the operation and ultimate closure of the aforesaid landfill to increase current user
fees os follows:
1. As of March 18th 1991 the fee assessed or charged
to Commercial Haulers delivering solid waste for
disposaf.at the aforesaid landfill sholl be increased
to the amount of $9.00 per cubic yard
2. As of April 8th 1991 the assessment or charge
to individuals using automobiles or pickup trucks
delivering solid waste for disposal at the aforesaid
landfill or transfer station sholl be increased
to the amount of $3.00 per cO( load or pickup truck load
and be it further
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RESOL VEDþ that the increased fees collected os 0 result of this resolution sholl be deposited
and used for closure and operation os follows:
1. $3.50 of the $9.00 per cubic yards assessed or charged
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to commercial haulers shall be deposited in an operational
account and be used for operational expenditures and $5.50
of the $9.00 per cubic yards assessed to or charged to commercial
haulers shall be deposited in a closure account and used
to closure purposes and
2. $ 7.00 of the $3.00 charge assessed to individuals using
automobiles or pickup trucks shall be deposited in the
operational account and used or operational expenses and
$2.00 of the $3.00 charg.e to individuals using automobiles or
pickup trucks shall be deposited in the closure account and,
used for closure expenditures
Duly adopted this 25th day of February, 7997 by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Potenza, Mr. Montesi, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Kurosaka
RESOL UTlON CALLING FOR EXEC UTlVE SESSION
RESOLUTION NO. 131, 1991, Introduced by Mrs. Marilyn Potenza who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Mr. Stephen Borgos:
RESOL VED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hèreby moves into Executive
Session to discuss professional services, ,personnel and pending litigation and litigation.
Duly adopted this 25th day of February, 7997 by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Potenza....Mr. Montesi, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Kurosaka
(No ac,tion taken)
On motion the meeting was ad;aurned.
Respectfully submitted,
Miss Darleen M. Dougher
Town Clerk-Queensbury
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