2008-09-22 MTG #42
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SEPTEMBER 22, 2008 B.H. 19-21
7:00 P.M. RES#434-464
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT
SUPERVISOR DANIEL STEC
COUNCILMAN ANTHONY METIVIER
COUNCILMAN RONALD MONTESI
COUNCILMAN JOHN STROUGH
COUNCILMAN TIM BREWER
TOWN OFFICIALS
BUDGET OFFICER, BARBARA TIERNEY
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING & CODES, DAVE HATIN
WASTEWATER DIRECTOR, MIKE SHAW
CIVIL ENGINEER, CHRIS HARRINGTON
PRESS
TV 8 POST STAR
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCILMAN RONALD MONTESI
SUPERVISOR STEC-Opened meeting.
1.0 RESOLUTION ENTERING QUEENSBURY BOARD OF HEALTH
RESOLUTION NO. 434, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from
Regular Session and moves in the Queensbury Board of Health.
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Duly adopted this 22 day of September, 2008, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION SETTING PUBLIC HEARING ON SEWAGE
DISPOSAL
VARIANCE APPLICATION OF JANE C. CAFFRY TRUST
RESOLUTION NO.: BOH 19, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
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WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board serves as the Town’s Local Board of
Health and is authorized by Town Code Chapter 136 to issue variances from the Town’s
On-Site Sewage Disposal Ordinance, and
WHEREAS, the Jane C. Caffry Trust has applied to the Local Board of Health for a
variance from Chapter 136 to install a replacement raised/mound septic system 1’ from the
side property line instead of the required 10’ setback on property located at 40 Bay Parkway
at Neighbor’s Way, Assembly Point in the Town of Queensbury,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town of Queensbury Local Board of Health will hold a public
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hearing on Monday, October 6, 2008 at 7:00 p.m. at the Queensbury Activities Center, 742
Bay Road, Queensbury, to consider the Jane C. Caffry Trust’s sewage disposal variance
application concerning property located at 40 Bay Parkway at Neighbor’s Way, Assembly
Point in the Town of Queensbury (Tax Map No.: 226.15-1-31 and 226.15-1-43) and at that
time all interested persons will be heard, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Local Board of Health authorizes and directs the Queensbury
Town Clerk to publish the Notice of Public Hearing presented at this meeting and send a
copy of the Notice to neighbors located within 500 feet of the property as required by law.
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Duly adopted this 22 day of September, 2008, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec. Mr. Metivier
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
DISCUSSION HELD
SUPERVISOR STEC-Dave Hatin contacted the board regarding this matter last week,
asked Mr. Hatin to give a brief presentation.
DIRECTOR OF BUILDING & CODES, MR. HATIN-Asked board members if they
received their email with the pictures of this property. This is an abandoned piece of
property that may or may not be in foreclosure have not been able to contact the foreclosure
company. The number that was left of the property for the cleanup has been apparently
disconnected or a wrong number there is no one to contact. Asking the board to an
immediate authorization to cleanup the garage and junk around the property to eliminate the
immediate health hazard and let the property go through the proper foreclosure procedures.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Any questions for Dave Hatin. I know that he sent us a handful of
photographs in particular the dumpster, okay is there a motion.
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RESOLUTION DECLARING A HEALTH HAZARD AND ORDERING
CLEAN-UP OF PROPERTY OWNED BY DONNA BURGOS
LOCATED AT 674 MOON HILL ROAD (TAX MAP NO.: 289.7-2-6)
RESOLUTION NO. BOH 20, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury’s Director of Building and Codes
Enforcement (Director) has advised the Town’s Local Board of Health that he has received
complaints about a large amount of household debris and garbage in the driveway of
property owned by Donna Burgos located at 674 Moon Hill Road in the Town of
Queensbury (Tax Map No.: 289.7-2-6), and
WHEREAS, the Director has investigated and inspected the property and has
advised that there is a large amount of household debris and garbage in the driveway on
such property and therefore, in his opinion, there are violations of the Town’s Garbage and
Junkyard Ordinances, the property constitutes a health hazard and nuisance to the
neighborhood as there are small children in proximity to the property, the property is unsafe
to the general public and efforts at gaining voluntary compliance by the property owner
have been unheeded, and therefore the Director strongly recommends that the Board of
Health take immediate action to clean-up the property as more specifically set forth in the
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Director’s correspondence to the Town Board dated September 19, 2008,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that after reviewing all of the evidence presented at this time, the
Town of Queensbury Local Board of Health is of the opinion that the property owned by
Donna Burgos bearing Tax Map No.: 289.7-2-6 and located at 674 Moon Hill Road,
Queensbury appears to be a potential object of attraction to rodents and animals, a nuisance,
health hazard, unsafe and dangerous and there is a clear and imminent danger to the life,
safety or health of the general public and therefore directs the Director of Building and
Codes Enforcement to arrange for the immediate clean-up of the debris and garbage on such
property and thereafter assess any charge to the real property in accordance with the
emergency provisions of the New York Public Health Law.
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Duly adopted this 22 day of September, 2008 by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi
NOES : None
ABSENT : None
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RESOLUTION ADJOURNING QUEENSBURY BOARD OF HEALTH
RESOLUTION NO. BOH 21, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Board of Health adjourns and moves back into the
Town Board of the Town of Queensbury.
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Duly adopted this 22 day of September, 2008, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
2.0PUBLIC HEARINGS
PUBLIC HEARING – BAY RIDGE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY, INC.’S
PROPOSAL TO SEEK TAX-EXEMPT FINANCING TO PAY FOR
UNEXPECTED EXPENSES RELATION TO HEATING OIL SPILL
OPENED
NOTICE SHOWN
PUBLICATION DATE: September 11, 2008
SUPERVISOR STEC-The Fire Company has approached the Town Board. They had a
failure of their heating oil system at the firehouse on Bay Road back in June. It put a lot
of oil into the ground that required an extensive hazard waste cleanup then repair of the
septic system and repair of the oil system. With that they filed with their insurance
company the claim, the claim was denied basically right now I think it is probably fair to
say and I will let the fire company answer any questions. They have a claim that has
been denied and they are going through channels with their legal counsel and a couple of
insurance companies to try and sort this matter out. In the meantime they have already
had the work performed, which really couldn’t wait. The bills have totaled about a
hundred and sixty thousand dollars to a hundred and seventy thousand dollars with
potential to climb a little bit more. They have asked the Town to consider allowing them
to take out a loan. They have researched this and found a ten year tax exempt loan with
TD Bank North for an amount up to two hundred thousand dollars that they would like to
take out. Anytime that any fire or EMS company incurs debt they need permission of the
Town, which is normally done by resolution. The reason for the public hearing was that
because it is tax exempt financing so that requires a public hearing as well. That is the
matter at hand that is as best as I can summarize it. I am not sure if anyone from the fire
company wants to add to that before I open the public hearing. I imagine there will
probably be a little Q & A; too it is not necessary if you think I covered it you’re
welcome to Mr. Mellon. I will declare the public hearing opened that way we will get
your comments as part of the public hearing.
CHUCK MELLON, PRESIDENT OF BAY RIDGE VOLUNTEER FIRE
COMPANY, AND JIM MUSCATO FROM THE LAW FIRM OF YOUNG,
SOMMER REPRESENTING THE BAY RIDGE FIRE DEPARTMENT
MR. MELLON-I think as Dan said some people may know we have had a spill. It
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happened June 18. From an underground tank that we had outside it went into a day
tank inside that we had installed a number of years ago due to gelling in the system as far
as cold weather because the oil line coming under the driveway just kind of pulls the cold
and it tends to gel the fuel. We had a system put in approximately five years ago with
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safety systems on it; it went to a day tank. From the day tank the oil was preheated
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brought to room temperature then it went to the boilers. Anyway, June 18 the system
failed and oil came out of the day tank, which was in the basement went to our floor
drains, which went to the sump hole from there it was pumped into the septic system,
which went to the drywells. There was over thirteen hundred gallons of heating fuel that
went out through there. It contaminated the ground that was a major cost for cleanup we
immediately sought help of an environmental firm that specializes in this and DEC was
notified immediately. There was some problems with the systems that failed and the
safety systems we were basically the innocent victim of all the circumstances here we are
kind of caught in the middle and we don’t have the funds to pay the bill that is why we
came to the Town Board and requested the loan. That is basically is it, but Jim can
answer probably go into a little more detail for you.
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-Before we get to questions if it is okay I just want to add this
was a good summary that you presented.
SUPERVISOR STEC-That was going to be my question is did I say anything that you
thought was inaccurate.
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-I think everything you said was accurate and the presentation
by Chuck supplemented that. I just wanted to kind of let everyone know really it is
somewhat unbelievable that three separate systems would fail and it was a combination
of all the failures of those systems that led to this discharge to the oil spill. What the fire
department had done is that it entered into an agreement with Northern Mechanical
Services to have the system installed to correct a problem they were having as Chuck had
mentioned with the gelling of fuel oil coming from an outside tank. They installed a
system where there would be an inside tank that would pump. When the level in the tank
reached a certain point where fuel was needed in the inside tank that pump was designed
to shut off automatically with a float system that would rise as the level of the tank filled
the failure was that the system did not work the shut off did not work. The backup
system was that there was suppose to be an alarm that when the float got to a certain level
the alarm would signal that alarm was installed by New York Fire and Security. In
addition to those two systems that were designed to make sure that an event like that did
not happen there was a third system that was underneath the tank. It was a drip pan that
would catch any oil that would spill out of the tank if the pump continued to pump even
though the tank was full. That drip pan had a lever in it that would raise and sound an
alarm that New York Fire and Security also installed. All three of these systems failed
and it led to the thirteen hundred gallons approximately thirteen hundred gallons of fuel
oil that spilled. As far as the cleanup the good news from the cleanup perspective the fire
department responded immediately because of their immediate response they were able
to contain the fuel oil that spilled to the drywells outside on the property. Those drywells
were excavated to a depth of approximately thirty feet. No ground water was
encountered and our consultant that the fire department had hired is fairly certain that all
of the petroleum was captured. He has done sampling and the sampling results had been
very favorable. One of the reasons why we don’t have a report to share with you tonight
is because the consultant who did the work who excavated the soil has brought the soil to
a disposal facility that needs to be paid. This is kind of the urgency in the situation where
this consultant has vendors that he is working with in order to pay those vendors the fire
department needs this money on an immediate basis that is part of the reason why there is
this urgency. As you had stated we did notify the carrier immediately, our insurance
carrier and the insurance carrier disclaimed we are assessing the policy and looking at
whether or not that disclaimer was wrongful and we will be contacting the insurance
company and going forward with a cause of action if necessary under the policy. In
addition immediately the fire department contacted Northern Mechanical and New York
Fire and Security to see if they would help out and step up in addressing this spill. At
that point the fire department heard nothing and contacted us and we arranged a meeting
actually before we arranged the meeting we sent out a letter. (Present board members
with copy of letter) Basically the letter set forth potential claims against New York Fire
and Security and Northern Mechanical. As detailed in that letter I won’t go into the
details about those potential claims, but we are prepared to file that Cause of Action if
New York Fire and Security and Northern Mechanical do not step up to this point they
have not. That is the reason why we are here tonight is because they have not stepped up
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and we are in need of this loan in order to pay these consultants for the cleanup work that
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was done. We had a meeting on September 11 and we still have heard nothing from the
parties that were responsible so we are here before the board tonight.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-Just one question is there something that can be learned
from the insurance policy that the fire company had? Is there something that we should
have that would eliminate this disclaimer by the insurance company?
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-We reviewed the policy and there are some serious, I think
wrongful claims by the insurance company as to why this was not covered. I can’t
provide too much detail right now because we are going to be in litigation with the
insurance company on that issue. What, I can say is that the fire department did what it
was suppose to do it got insurance that would cover a scenario like this. It is pretty
routine in the insurance industry to issue disclaimer letters in the first instance we think
we are just faced with that initial disclaimer letter that we will need to respond, too.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-Ron, I actually sat down with the insurance agent this
afternoon went through the policy with him. They did have a hundred thousand dollar
pollution endorsement on the policy, which is actually pretty substantial. However,
based on the report that was received from the engineer that reviewed the spill that is
where they based their denial the claim from I have some concerns about that. I think the
question may be raised tonight from some people what assurances do we have that you
are going to continue with litigation on this. From the way, I read it I would say the
insurance company actually has some ground to stand on as far as the denial is concern.
In that respect we only have these two companies to fall back on and based on the
engineer’s report I think you have a strong case there, but what assurances do we have
from you and the fire department that you are going to pursue action against them?
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-The best assurances I can give you right now is the letter that
you have in front of you. That letter is a pretty strong letter setting forth those potential
claims against Northern Mechanical and New York Fire and Security and we believe
those claims have very good merit.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-To take it one step farther when you have insurance doesn’t
the insurance subrogate against what they consider the offenders?
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-I can’t speak to why the insurance company didn’t act that
way in this case.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-If they had a claim that they covered they would cover it
on a first basis with the company then go after the two other companies. In this particular
case the way the policy was written with a specific exclusion they had in the jacket of the
policy they denied the claim based on that exclusion. I won’t get into it; it basically has to
do with how the system was installed. If it was a material defect it would have been
covered, but the way they see it and the way the engineer’s report reads it is not a
material defect in the system it was a defect in the way it was installed. It was explained
to me if you went into an insurance agent and you said I need to get a homeowners policy
the insurance agent said, here you go and they gave you an auto policy it is basically the
same thing that happened poor example. In the case of this the three systems failed and it
wasn’t anything to do with material defect and how the systems would operate it was to
do with how they were installed so that is where this exclusion comes in that is why they
don’t cover it and subrogate afterwards. There is error and omissions hopefully on the
part of Northern Mechanical and New York Fire and Signal where if it is proven that they
were in error then their policies would kick in.
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-If, I could just add that is why we are so surprised that New
York Fire and Security and Northern Mechanical haven’t stepped up to this point.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-Maybe they don’t have insurance.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-That is the worst case scenario.
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COUNCILMAN BREWER-The question, I would have and this goes to the fire company
if they installed a system that failed and maybe I am wrong, but I am reading this as that
you hired them to repair the system is that true.?
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-They were hired to maintain and repair the system when it was
necessary.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-If you knew that you were going to go to litigation with
them why you would hire them to repair it?
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-Since the system was installed they were the company that
would maintain and repair that system if it needed it.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-They were actually on a few occasions both companies.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-After it failed they repaired the system?
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-Before it failed they maintained it.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-They maintained it.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-I understand that. After it failed who put it back together?
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-It has not been. That was one of the issues is that the fire
department is contracting with a company to have the outside tank reconnected to their
heating system because the winter heating season is almost here so they don’t have time
to have the system…
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Put the second tank inside and all that.
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-Have the system correct.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-I apologize for not being at the meeting that you guys
discussed this at.
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-That system going forward is going be addressed.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-My head shakes when I read it. The fire company has no
funds available at all zero funds that you could use to supplement the loan?
MR. MELLON-Not much.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Not much is how much?
MR. MELLON-Not much. We have enough to start paying this loan back and the legal
fees that is about it we don’t have hundred of thousand of dollars.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-I understand that Chuck. I wouldn’t expect you to have
hundred of thousands of dollars, ten thousand.
MR. MELLON-We will say ten thousand, yeah, but that is being used to supplement our
budget that we ask for no increase this past year there is a use for that.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-I am sure there is always a use for money if you have it, but
I mean this is a pretty serious….
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-Part of our efforts in addition to going after the company’s
who have not stepped up here will also be to make an application to the New York State
Spill Fund as a faultless victim in this situation. We would be looking for the Town’s
support in making that application if there were any monies available. We would do
whatever we could to secure that and pay back the loan with that money that can be a
very long process.
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COUNCILMAN MONTESI-There will be some in the public that say that we are
agreeing to do this loan and if you win the lawsuit or whatever action you take and your
are compensated back for all expenses what happens to the loan? Well, obviously you
want to pay that off as quickly as you can. It doesn’t say that in here, I guess there has to
be some assurance because ultimately what will happen is this year when you come in for
your budget you are going to ask not only us, but the whole Town to help pay back this
loan and that is understandable, I mean that’s the way it works. There has to be some
assurance to the taxpayer’s that if you win the lawsuit….
COUNCILMAN BREWER-This loan is paid off immediately.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-The loan will be paid off.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-I guess in that respect we are going to be appraised of this
as it goes along. We find that they win the lawsuit and don’t pay back the loan then we
just withhold any future money from them.
SUPERVISOR STEC- That concern is a concern of mine, but I think it can be addressed
by adding a resolved at the very end Karen that I would suggest the board consider. Just
a simple resolve that as funding that the fire company recovers through its efforts to
straighten out the insurance and litigation matters will all be applied against any loan that
is granted. I think we are all on the same page, but we may as well put it in the
resolution.
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-I can let you speak to that, but I think everyone agrees that the
fire department is not looking for a windfall in this situation.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Absolutely.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-We just need some assurances. Like I said, I will say it
again my biggest concern is that after if this is approved and you get your money you
have to keep fighting you can’t give up and say, well we got our money who cares.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Or settle easily.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-We just can’t let that happen this is the Town’s money it is
taxpayer’s money. It is a terrible incident we have to have some assurances that we are
going to get this money back in every way we can.
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-I think, I mentioned three ways tonight that is why the fire
department has us on board so that they can do that. Like, I said before it is a little
disappointing that since July we have not progressed any further then we have except for
the fire department doing what it needed to do immediately addressing the spill so they
continue to be the victim here as long as no one else is doing anything. The Town Board
approving this tonight would show a great deal to the fire department in support of their
efforts to try to do this and do the right thing and get this taken care of.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-I think the fire department did yeoman service in containing
what the problem was. I know Chuck you were up in the middle of the night when you
heard about it and started it was an awful cleanup. Once it got into the holding tanks and
then in the leaching field’s boy we’re in for a big cleanup had to tear up a brand new
parking lot all that blacktop to get underneath it.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Chuck were these things put out to bid or are these just
estimates?
MR. MELLON-What’s that now.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Like the parking lot the tanks etc., etc.
MR. MELLON-As far as the environmental part that was all taken care of.
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COUNCILMAN BREWER-The environmental part I don’t have an issue with.
MR. MELLON-The other major thing was the parking lot and that was put out, yes it
was.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-It was put out to bid?
MR. MELLON-Yes, it was.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-I will say too, I think I was notified the next day when MC
was there doing the cleanup, I think Chip had called me.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Adirondack Paving Coating, twenty four five fifty
replacement of the tank we have to buy a new tank?
MR. MELLON-Drywells we did.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-It says fuel oil replacement of a thirteen sixty eight gallon
fuel.
MR. MELLON-That was the amount we lost Tim the oil we haven’t replaced it yet, but
we are going to have to.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-Not the tank the oil Tim.
SUPERVISOR STEC-The oil in the tank that is going to be about five grand.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Sixty one fifty six.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Tony.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-I don’t know if Tim is done yet I am just waiting.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-I am bothered by this Tony. I am sure you know I have
talked to you, talked to Ron; I have talked to everybody on the board. It is just something
that happened this severe we didn’t know about me personally I didn’t know about it
until a month ago or three weeks ago. I find that I don’t know what the word is I am
looking for, but I think we should have known about it immediately.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-That is my fault because I was informed immediately and I
thought I sent an email out to everybody the night that I got back.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Tony I apologize, but I didn’t see it.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-I apologize if I didn’t copy you in on it. I know that I
notified at least, I think I did.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-I got one.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-I was notified immediately of it so that has to be my fault it
is not theirs.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Okay, well then I will take that statement back.
SUPERVISOR STEC-A couple concerns that I have we are going to get to public
comment I apologize, but this may help spur some public comment or public thoughts on
this hearing some of the details here. Tony already touched on it and I am concerned, but
I am also convinced that there will be many in the public that will be concerned that by
getting access to this loan money that it will take a sense of urgency away so that a
settlement may be more appealing. I am not sure I am looking for the right word, but it
may be more convenient to say okay take the deep breath we dogged that bullet because
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we are going to be okay we can pay these bills. The best we can do is we are going to
settle we are going to get some, but not all of the money that we claimed for because that
is how insurance things can work sometimes or certainly litigation can work. I guess, I
am looking for and I am going to guess that there may be others that are looking for that
kind of insurance that, you don’t want to be stupid either you are going to play your case
as best as you can play your case we can’t say, hey no matter what I understand that. I
want to make sure that we communicated to you that we expect a dog fight from you
guys to make the insurance companies do right by you. It is not the Town taxpayer’s it is
not the Town’s position to be that fallback secondary insurer. That is the position that we
are finding ourselves in tonight through no fault of Bay Ridge. The observation will be
their insurance company isn’t taking care of them they are having a fight with somebody
else’s insurance company maybe the taxpayer is going to step in there and underwrite this
and maybe we get that money back maybe we don’t. That is a concern that I think is out
there and at least one that I have.
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-I understand that concern. Just so the public is not confused
that may be overstating the Town’s involvement a little bit.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Yes.
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-It is not a loan from the Town I don’t want the public to get
the misimpression that the fire department has come to the Town Board asking for
money.
SUPERVISOR STEC-That is a very fair thing for you to point out. Often times when we
talk about Fire Company financing there are all kinds of misperceptions out there. There
are people in Town that think that the fire companies are paid. Now, should they be paid
that is a different discussion, but are they paid, no they are not. There are people that
think is the work that they do of value? Are we fortunate that we are not paying a labor
cost we are paying insurances, heat, and truck repair, new capital. You can’t read a
newspaper lately where they talk about volunteers that has been in the newspapers very
recently, but the last few years there has been a lot of talk about the erosion of the
volunteer base nation wide and how much it would cost to have a paid department. You
try to on the one hand cut as much slack as you can. On the other hand there will be
people that are saying, well the Town isn’t loaning them the money the bank is going to
loan the money. Where does the money come from to pay the principal and the interest
back it comes almost entirely from the Town’s contract. That is why just for myself and I
am not telling you guys anything you don’t know, but there are certainly people in
attendance they will be watching from home or reading about in the paper that they need
to understand it is your loan we are not a co-signer I was quoted accurately there. Others
are going to say, well isn’t the Town really underwriting this in the end; too, potentially
yes that is what we are talking about.
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-Just so that there is another misconception the agreement
between the Town and Fire Department clearly states that the Town doesn’t act as a
second insurer for purposes of the loan. So, that if there is some kind of default on the
loan the Town will somehow be on the hook for that loan visa vie that specific loan. The
agreement with the Town requires the Town to approve any, I can’t remember the
language, but it is any kinds of monies….
SUPERVISOR STEC-Encouragement of debt.
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-It is also I think expenses or significant expenses or something
along that line so that is the reason why we are here tonight.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-One question I have in the letter you gave us a copy of was
dated on the eighteenth of August you haven’t heard from any of the Attorney’s for New
York Fire and Signal or Northern Mechanical?
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ATTORNEY MUSCATO-As, I mentioned before we had a meeting on September 11,
the Attorney’s for Northern Mechanical as well as New York Fire and Security attended
the meeting. At that time it was known that this public hearing would be held we let
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them know that we wanted to hear something from them we still have not. They attended
the meeting, but no other overtures.
SUPERVISOR STEC-We could probably talk for a long time on this I want to get the
pubic involved. Are there any members of the public that would like to comment or ask
any questions we will get them and then we will come back?
GEORGE WINTERS, 4 JOHN CLENDON ROAD-My one concern was how did it get
out into the drywalls and the drywalls were under the driveway so they had to replace all
the driveway.
SUPERVISOR STEC-I will save a little time. I will let them correct me if I am wrong.
As, I understand it there is a drain in the floor and the floor that this day tank was in filled
up and the sump pump that is in the floor kicked on as it is suppose to do when water gets
there not oil. That pumped it out into the leach field they had to dig up, I don’t think the
leach field is under asphalt, but certainly the piping underneath the asphalt to get out to
the leach field that is probably what they had to did, up in their parking lot.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-There are drywells there.
MR. WINTERS-According to the paper the drywell was under the driveway.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-Yeah under the parking lot.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-Yeah, right in the back.
SUPERVISOR STEC-I stand corrected.
MR. WINTERS-I wouldn’t want to put my drywell under my driveway then if something
happens I have to dig the driveway out to me that don’t even make sense that was a big
expense. I personally don’t believe the Town is not going to give them the money if this
resolution goes through the Town gives them the money?
SUPERVISOR STEC-They will get a loan from TD Bank North.
MR. WINTERS-That is their loan. Why does the Town have to get involved in it?
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-Because when they come in for the budget to pay the loan
off they are going to ask for money to help pay the loan off.
SUPERVISOR STEC-The Town is their main source almost sole source of funding that
is why. Yeah, they will have a loan, but where is the money coming to repay the loan. If
they don’t get it from the insurance companies they are going to want it in their contract
so that is what we are saying. Yeah, on the one hand we are not giving them the money
directly, but indirectly as they pay back this loan it is going to be coming from their
contract.
MR. WINTERS-I will just state for the record I am against this.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Yes, sir.
MR. WINTERS-Thank you.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Thanks Mr. Winters.
PLINEY TUCKER, 41 DIVISION ROAD-What is the total cost of this?
SUPERVISOR STEC-So far it is approximately a hundred and seventy thousand. I think
they feel they have some other expenses that are likely to come in. The mount of the loan
that they requested is up to two hundred thousand.
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COUNCILMAN BREWER-What are the other expenses though Dan. It says one fifty
six four eighty zero eight.
SUPERVISOR STEC-That is a question that I know that Councilman Brewer has and I
have do we want to borrow two hundred if one seventy is enough or one seventy five is
enough.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-One sixty or whatever.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Or one sixty is enough exactly we will get that answer.
MR. TUCKER-I see an Attorney sitting here how much is he going to do.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-He is doing it for free.
MR. TUCKER-I don’t think so.
SUPERVISOR STEC-He is part of their expense right now.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-I have no idea.
MR. TUCKER-Are the expenses included in the total amount?
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-His expenses are included in that total amount.
SUPERVISOR STEC-His are.
MR. TUCKER-You know sometimes these things go into court they come in here and
want more money.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-That’s true.
SUPERVISOR STEC-That is a very valid concern Pliney.
MR. TUCKER-Guarantees. What is the guarantees on the worked that failed by the
companies that installed it? Are their guarantees or are they all ran out?
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-You mean warranties or guarantees?
MR. TUCKER-Warranties.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-We can’t really answer that right now because of the way it
was installed. It was installed improperly so there is no warranty on the equipment itself
it was not a mechanical failure it was defective as far as the installation is concerned so
there is no guarantee or warranty as far as the equipment goes.
MR. TUCKER-You wouldn’t need a guarantee there. If you hired a contractor he has to
guarantee the work that he does I know I do.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-That’s why they have an Attorney. That’s why the
companies probably aren’t coming forward with checks right now. If they pay at this
point they are admitting guilt that’s why we probably need to have an Attorney on hand
to help the fire department.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-When you think about it Pliney as the Attorney pointed out
there are three failures. The failure of the float system, however, that failed. The failure
of the alarm system to alert everybody that the float system failed and the failure of the
float system down on the floor pan that also was tied to the alarm system you had literally
three failures there. Was it installed improperly, geez you know, and I mean you know
what it is when you replace a float in the toilet bowl. You check it, it works the water
stopped.
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MR. TUCKER-I can understand this, but these people that did this work got paid to do it
they were suppose to be professionals to do it right. Now, it isn’t the fire company’s
problem or the Towns problem to figure out what went wrong something went wrong the
damn thing didn’t work.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-The problem is you are talking a hundred and seventy five
thousand dollars…..
MR. TUCKER-I know what you are talking.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-That’s why nobody probably wants to come forward
because there is a big bill here. Most insurance companies will only cover you between
fifty thousand and a hundred thousand dollars worth of pollution cleanup that is as much
as they are going to pay. If these guys don’t have more insurance then where is the
money going to come from.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Is that what our insurance policy says Tony?
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-That’s what a typical insurance policy reads.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-Pollution.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-That is a question for the fire company Attorney when they
come back they could answer for us please.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-The fire company’s policy had a hundred thousand dollars
worth of pollution coverage on it. We have no idea what Northern Mechanical or New
York Fire and Signals policy has on it. I would expect there would be more since they
are working with fuel.
SUPERVISOR STEC-That is what they are working with, right.
MR. TUCKER-Do you honestly think that the insurance company that insures the fire
company should pay when the equipment that was installed by professionals failed?
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-Do I honestly think that, no. I think that the companies
that installed should pay.
MR. TUCKER-That’s what I think, too.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-Let’s hope that’s what happens that is what we are trying to
assure ourselves of.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-In the meantime there are a large number of vendors that
did a lot of work here that are hanging lose without getting payment.
MR. TUCKER-We all have had that happen to us.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-We are not talking a couple thousand dollars here this is
the problem. I think that is why this is where it is there is so much money.
MR. TUCKER-Can you break down the amounts?
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-We have them broken down.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Tim do you have them real quick.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-I have MC Environmental the drywall cleanup is thirty nine
three. They have another one drywall cleanup is eighty one zero ninety three. These are
significant, but not as much as the other. You have one that is two hundred and eighteen,
a hundred and seventy five, and three thirty one. Help with cleanup oil spill a hundred
and seventy. Oil cleanup two ninety seven. Oil cleanup four twenty five this is all
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Northern Mechanical five zero eight and Northern Mechanical again for twelve fifty four.
Then you have repavement of the blacktop is twenty four five. Replacement of thirteen
hundred and sixty sight gallons of fuel is six thousand one fifty six. Then MC
Environmental the third bill for cleanup is two thousand dollars then legal fees there is a
question mark. The total that I have got is a hundred and fifty six four eighty. My point
was going to be I can back out the blacktop is twenty five thousand if we are in litigation
with Northern Mechanical I don’t know why we are going to pay them.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-I wouldn’t pay them.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-That’s my point.
MR. TUCKER-They are part of the action?
SUPERVISOR STEC-Just for clarification we are not in litigation people will get
confused the Town of Queensbury is not the fire company is.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-My advice is why would you pay somebody that you are in
litigation with, why would you even hire them that is the kind of things that bother me.
MR. TUCKER-It sounds like a little deep pockets no reflection of the fire company or the
Town. You know how people dealing with….
SUPERVISOR STEC-Governmental money.
MR. TUCKER-Yeah.
SUPERVISOR STEC-You can come back Pliney if you need to.
MR. TUCKER-I have seen it time and again as I have told a couple of fellows here when
you have a problem and the Town gets involved it is the taxpayers that pay everything
goes to sleep if you can tie it together okay, thank you.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-Not much different than the seven hundred billion we are
going to be spending as taxpayers.
MR. TUCKER-You don’t have to remind us of that.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-Really it is the same thing on a much, much, much smaller
scale.
GEORGE RYAN, 955 STATE ROUTE 149-One thing that we should do is commend
these guys for taking care of this problem right away. There are houses in there, ponds
behind there this piece of land was a salt mine before that and the County owned it. In
someway we should start a committee or something these guys shouldn’t have to go and
take a loan for this money it is still going to come out of the taxpayer’s money. Let’s put
our heads together and pay them with the Town’s money. They had to get an Attorney
that’s not Mellon’s building over there the Town owns that fire building.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-The Town does not own that fire building.
SUPERVISOR STEC-No, we don’t George we don’t own it.
MR. RYAN-Then who ownes the fire district. We have to think of it we are still all the
taxpayers we have fire district money we all pay it. These firemen they have been beat
up by the last Town Board. Ron and Mr. Metivier they weren’t here these guys don’t
have any extra money they are not blowing money. I have been to many of their parties
at the end of the year Dan I didn’t see any dancing girls, I wasn’t drinking highballs these
guys are doing a good job.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-George we are not insinuating that.
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MR. RYAN-I know, but we are thinking the wrong way that we have to get them a loan.
We have surplus money here let’s lend it to them at Town rate a rate that the government
would lend money these guys are worried about paying their bills.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Twelve percent is what the government is lending money at
George, twelve percent.
MR. RYAN-Twelve percent you got to be out of your minds you are killing the
taxpayers.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Eighty four billion they just loaned for twelve percent.
MR. RYAN-And my savings account is paying three point two, right.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-I don’t disagree with you I am not saying they should pay
that.
MR. RYAN-We have to put our heads together maybe we can start a committee get this
going here. This is the first firehouse these firehouses are going to get older and we are
going to have more problems like this. Let’s put a contingency fund together let’s get a
plan going together so when this happens we have something to fall back on. It is a
shame that this happened and yes and somebody should be sued for it. I think these guys
did a great job keeping it quite. How many gas stations do we have in Queensbury that
are on a Brownfield site that have liens against them. They have done the job they
cleaned the soil up they got the okay you know it’s close to God the EPA. They did what
they had to do we got to help them someway we should find the money they shouldn’t
have to go to the bank to get it we have money here. They save somebody’s house these
guys worked hard they shouldn’t be burdened with this kind of pressure. We need to
make some kind of committee this is going to happen again just as time gets old. Tanks
are going to get old we take this as a learning curve. I think we are getting away cheap
and if you don’t think you are getting away cheap just go look at anybody’s liens I can
name the places, but I don’t think it would be right the liens that are on pieces of land that
in the Town of Queensbury. These guys cleaned it up they got it doing good let’s work
with them and try and get this resolved and they don’t own that firehouse.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-They do.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-The money from the bank is actually pretty cheap it is a
great interest rate.
MR. RYAN-But, we have money in the Town why do we have to go to the bank. The
bank wants to lend money nobody wants to borrow it.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-If the bank wants to lend money take it. I don’t mean that
here I mean anywhere.
MR. RYAN-Tony if you ever seen these guys budget how tight they are right now they
used to have a vehicle fund. …happened maybe if they were going the same way there
was reasons for them to stop it they might have enough money they could scrape from
here to Peter to Paul and pay for this, but right now they are in a tight spot. The fuel is up
everything costs more money. They would like to get new fire trucks equipment gets old
they don’t have no vehicle funds and stuff. All, I am asking you guys to do is to get a
committee or something we should work on this as a Town Hall because more firehouses
are going to have this problem. They are all volunteers they are worried about this bill
because you know what when they get a bill at their house you know what they do they
pay it, it is a burden on them. That is all that I have to say I think we should work on it,
Thank you.
FORMER HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT, PAUL H. NAYLOR, DIVISION ROAD-
Everything George said is right. We can pay Wall Street a few million bucks why not
take care of our own first before they steal it. We know them bandits we know these
good guys so let’s stay with the good guys once in our life.
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JOHN SALVADOR-Mr. Montesi even a toilet tank where the float fails has an overflow
mechanism and it doesn’t flood the place just a little waste of water that’s all. Basically,
I think what you have here is from the get go the design philosophy of this system has
permitted a cross connection between a sanitary system and a fuel oil system that is not
allowed by any code Town Code, Health Code, DEC Code. Whoever put this
contraption together is responsible that is where the responsibility lies. Secondly, no
insurance company is going to cover anything without a CO having been issued a CO
doesn’t get issued until inspections are made now where is the egg whose tie is the egg?
Sure, they had an operating failure I can see that these fire companies have a source of
revenue that is called other than Town funds. They get the benefit of the Foreign Tax
distribution. I don’t know to what extent the Bay Ridge Fire Company benefits from that
fund, but I know North Queensbury gets about twelve thousand dollars in the last year or
so from that fund. North Queensbury spends that money on banquets I don’t know where
Bay Ridge spends their money, but surely some of it is spent on these banquets with or
without dancing girls some of that money could be diverted to pay off this. There are
sources of funds available within that organization to pay for this folly. As, I say from
the get go it is poor design a cross connection between a sanitary system and a fuel oil
system how a CO got issued on that where the inspection is on that I don’t know. Those
are things that have to be tightened up if they use their Foreign Fire Tax money in some
way over a period of time they can pay this off it would be no burden on the taxpayer.
Thank you.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Is there anyone else that would like to address the board on this
public hearing.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-When the system was installed with the safety floats was
that after a while. In other words was the tank outside did you realize it would gel the
fuel being outside so you put this new system inside the building?
MR. MELLON-Actually our first winter there we moved in April 2002 through the next
winter we had a lot of problems with the heat gelling.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-The original CO that issued by the Queensbury Building
Inspector did not include that modified system
MR. MELLON-No.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-Okay. I just wanted Mr. Salvador to know that wasn’t….
MR. MELLON-It was to correct a situation.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-You might argue the point that a cross connection was made
when the new system went in because there was a floor drain there, but that wasn’t the
original CO inspection that was done.
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-Who would have thought three systems, would have failed all
three systems.
SUPERVISOR STEC-You had a couple questions that you had wanted the Attorney to
answer.
COUNCILMAN STROUGH-Can I ask one first.
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-Before I get to that question can I just respond to something
that was raised before it was specifically regarding fees. I think actually this may go to
one of your questions about the breakdown on this chart. As it is right now the current
cost that have been expended and you can correct me if I am wrong is about sixty
thousand dollars so all of these costs have not been incurred the fire department has been
billed for those costs, but they have not been paid that is part of the reason why the loan
will pay back those fees. As far as litigation fees one of the things the Supervisor has
stressed today is that you would like a commitment from us to pursue these funds from
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Northern Mechanical or New York Fire and Signal the Insurance Companies or
whomever. As you know litigation is very expensive so there is certainly going to be
some kind of balancing of expending a lot of money on Attorney’s to really recover very
little from New York Fire and Security or Northern Mechanical or whomever. Certainly
that is going to be needed to take into account as far as any kind of settlement discussion
because the fire company is dealing with a limited amount of funds here especially if the
loan is for anything less than two hundred thousand dollars. The expenses that are
incurred are the sixty thousand plus what is on the spread sheet it does not include final
sign-out from the DEC. The Department of Environmental Conservation has not issued a
note for their action letter we anticipate they will based on the data we have seen from the
consultant. That extra money would go to any of the work that the DEC may ask of the
fire department in terms of closing the spill. There is in addition to a hundred and sixty
thousand dollars that has already been either incurred or has been billed there may be
additional costs not only legal fee cost, but also from whatever else the DEC asks. As far
as the legal fees go our firm has been involved with this and has taken every step of the
way to try to reduce cost as much as possible it is very difficult to do. I am not in a
position to defend what we have done to try to recover this money for the fire
department. I just want the board to know that the fire department has stressed that they
are commitment to recovering this money. There are provisions in the Navigation Law,
which provide for direct and indirect costs and the courts have held that those indirect
costs include Attorney fees so there are other avenues that we thought of and that we
would pursue. Again, it would have to be balanced with the cost of litigation in terms of
settlement.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-Mr. Mellon or Mr. Muscato is there a compelling reason
why you decided to take out a loan verses coming to the board and say listen can you
cover these bills until we get some remedy from either the Insurance Company or if we
have to get a lawsuit compensatory damages is there a reason why you went with the loan
instead of just coming to the board and asking for the money?
MR. MELLON-I will have Chip come up here and tell you because he had a meeting
with Dan about this and my Vice President, Doug Coons on why we went this route
instead of opening our contract they had a discussion with Dan on this so I will let them
tell you about it.
COUNCILMAN STROUGH-All right fair enough.
CHIP MELLON, JR.-John to answer your question when we were trying to figure out
how to pay our bills Doug Coons the Vice President and myself went and met with the
Supervisor and explained our dilemma basically asked him for some different
suggestions and that was kind of Dan’s suggestion that it might be the way to go so that is
how we kind of looked at loans. We talked about reopening the contract because there is
a clause; however, after the three of us discussing it together we came to an agreement
after talking to Dan that this would be the best way to pursue a loan.
COUNCILMAN STROUGH-Okay, I was just wondering out loud because Mr. Brewer
wants to have hands on almost wants to make sure that the money is spent appropriately.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Absolutely don’t you?
COUNCILMAN STROUGH-Yes, I am not disagreeing with you. I am almost saying
considering your concerns and the other concerns it would be cheaper for the taxpayer in
the long run to give and pay the bills with the understanding that as soon as remedy or
compensation is obtained by the department that would immediately come back to the
Town and eliminate the interest rate in-between. It would be cheaper for the taxpayer in
the long way I am just wondering why we didn’t go that route that’s all.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-I wasn’t in on that discussion so I cannot answer that
question John.
COUNCILMAN STROUGH-Well either was I.
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SUPERVISOR STEC-As, I recall the conversation just to add to what Chip has said time
was of the essence in their opinion and they were hesitant to want to reopen the contract
because they may have complicated it made it more lengthily for process. From my
perspective I felt that keeping any transaction that we may do on this matter at an arms
length was probably in the Town’s best interest. I am not sure that it is a wise thing for
the Town to start accepting bills and paying invoices on behalf of this cleanup at least
that was one of the other factors that I had although I am not sure that I shared that. I
remember that the main factor was that the time was of the essence and this way thrown
to Town Counsel and we had a workshop on it the matter that is before us tonight is the
loan.
COUNCILMAN STROUGH-How much is the interest rate?
BUDGET OFFICER, TIERNEY-A hair over four percent.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Of course, I mean I don’t know how long this would take to
recover under a year. If it is under a year then the amount of interest paid might not be
too significant.
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-Are there any other questions?
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-I think it would be difficult for the Town to handle the
invoices and have you representing the fire company for litigation where is the
impedance then? We pay all the bills where is the impedance let it ride settle it quickly
we don’t want to pay a lot of Attorney fees. I think right now the onus is shared we are
going to pay the fire company back through the next years contract when they come in
and say we have all of this money to pay on the loan. They will work hard with you to
try and collect a portion of that from New York Fire and Signal and Northern Homes. I
think it is the best case scenario it doesn’t open up the Town to any other situations that
might occur on any other fire company. I think it is orderly and business like and
ultimately the taxpayers in Town if the lawsuit doesn’t go well will pay this bill back
anyway with interest.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-But it is going to well, right?
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-The best outcome would be for the responsible parties to step
up. Ultimately the longer the delay in resolution of this it is going to end up being more
cost to the fire department clearly the best outcome is for those responsible parties to step
up now.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-That is up to you and the fire company to make a reasonable
settlement on that.
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-Really the onus is on Northern Mechanical and New York
Fire and Security to come up with some amount that really is what the issue is. The fire
department is certainly going to take any settlement offer very seriously we are really
looking to resolve this no one really wants to fight it is just that they are the victims stuck
with the bills.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-We have no way watching over controlling what gets paid
and what doesn’t and how it gets paid and how it doesn’t?
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-Once you issue the loan its tough.
COUNCILMAN STROUGH-We do if we pay it directly.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-My suggestion would be certainly if they are in litigation
with somebody my own personal preference is I wouldn’t pay who you are taking to
court.
MR. MELLON-We aren’t Tim.
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COUNCILMAN BREWER-Pardon me.
MR. MELLON-That is just a bill that we received nothing has been paid nothing will be
paid.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-I understand Chuck, but my point being is you are showing
these bills and I am not criticizing you its my job to question when I see these bills then
you are showing a balance of one fifty six and you want to borrow two hundred thousand
dollars and you can back out several tens of thousand of dollars why is that even in there?
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-I think its twelve hundred just to be clear twelve hundred
dollars.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Just to Northern there is nobody else involved that has to be
paid?
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-I don’t see anyone else on this list.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-There is twelve, five, four, three, one seventy.
MR. MELLON-This loan Tim is just up to that amount that doesn’t mean we have to
spend that amount or anything else. If you want a copy of the bills that we paid that is
fine we can turn them into you and show you what we paid as far as that part of it goes.
We don’t know what the costs are going to be down the road that’s why we didn’t want
too shallow of an amount of a loan we can take it up to that amount we don’t have to use
it we only use what we pay out.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-We are going to do the blacktop this year?
MR. MELLON-It just got done we had to have that done.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-You couldn’t back out of the firehouse without blacktop
there.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Well I am just asking I don’t know.
MR. MELLON-That has been done Tim.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-Chuck just one more question a concern I have. I
understand that it still smells pretty bad in the basement what are you going to do about
that?
MR. MELLON-We just had it power washed just a short time ago. We are going to have
to go back to the fellows that came up to do the initial cleaning and get an idea from them
how we can do that. We have the polling that is there we have the State Fire Training
there we have a lot of different meetings there for just the fire department there and
outside groups like the Homeowners Association so we have a lot of these going on we
have to get that corrected we still have an odor in there.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-It is a painted floor too; I mean it wasn’t like the oil…..
MR. MELLON-That wasn’t painted not downstairs.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-So the oil did penetrate the cement.
MR. MELLON-Right, it’s a concrete floor a poured floor.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-They would have to seal the cement.
MR. MELLON-That’s another thing we have to work on just a number of things that
have really got us down on this we just have to get it corrected that is what we are trying
to do.
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SUPERVISOR STEC-Let me follow up on what I think Councilman Brewer’s concern
might be. Is two hundred thousand dollars the appropriate number if the total bills add up
to one fifty six? I understand that there might be a little bit more, but then again there is
going to be a contract there potentially other sources of revenue whether it’s other
diverted expenses or other sources of revenue as distasteful as that may be. Is there a
right number that is significantly under two hundred? I don’t want the criticism to be
well they had bills totaling a hundred and sixty thousand and the Town said here take two
hundred, please I am being a little tongue and cheek on that. I imagine that you worked
at a factor saying, well look we expect a little more expenses like the ones that we just
talked about to come in after the fact.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-Plus litigation.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Plus litigation.
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-Not only that they need a system that works.
SUPERVISOR STEC-The repair hasn’t been done yet.
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-The repair is not done yet.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Do you have an estimate or a ballpark on what that might be.
MR. MELLON-We have no idea we just don’t know to get it back where it is the right
way.
COUNCILMAN STROUGH-The reality is this is that you will be taking this out in
increments as you need it. You already volunteered that you can supply the bills for
verification to the Town Board.
MR. MELLON-Sure.
COUNCILMAN STROUGH-You obviously need unforeseen things like I don’t know
what is going to clean that kerosene smell out of there maybe somebody knows some
way of doing it, but they are not going to do it for free.
MR. MELLON-That’s correct.
SUPERVISOR STEC-I would suggest if the hundred and fifty six thousand that you
already incurred and the work has been done already. I mean, I would think that it would
probably be reasonable for us to say go ahead and give us, I mean you laid it out for us
why not give us a copy of those bills for the file. Then the add-ons I don’t know if it is
necessarily the right thing to say well as you get a two thousand dollar bill for this or
three thousand dollar bill for that you come back to us for the permission if we already let
you borrowed the money, but certainly keep us apprised by giving us a copy of these bills
as you go just so that we are kind of involved, I mean that might be something that might
work.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-Is this a loan or a line of credit?
MR. MELLON-It’s a loan.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-It is a loan. If you discover that you only needed a hundred
and seventy five what is going to happen to the other twenty five?
MR. MELLON-We don’t use it that is up to that amount Tony.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-There is no penalty for payback?
DOUG COONS-There is no prepayment penalty. To just add we tried to work with bank
to get a line of credit that is not available. To get a low interest loan it has to be one flat
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fee a line a credit is not equitable to do they can’t do it. They actually have to have a
secure and collateral to hold this loan there is no line of credit that is not available.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-At the end of the day it is a hundred and seventy five
thousand are you going to give twenty five back right away.
MR. COONS-Yes we are not looking to put money anywhere. If the end bills are at a
hundred and seventy five thousand that twenty five thousand is going directly back.
ATTORNEY MUSCATO-Or better yet when the responsible parties reimburse the fire
department for that amount then that money is going to right back in the bank it won’t be
held by the fire department.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Any other questions from the board any other public comment on
this?
MR. RYAN-I would just like to say one more thing. This is a catastrophe what really
happened and we have to commend them. Do you realize that there is not one agency in
this Town that we have in this Town we have a wonderful Town we have a lot of fire
houses there is nobody that goes and coordinates anything with these guys like you see
Tim you didn’t know no part of it and stuff. Somewhere we should put a safety net or
build some kind of thing in the Town where somebody can go and check on these guys
and say how much did you spend for this, where did the money go? These guys are
doing this all on their own time other than fire fighting. There are some things that we
should work on as a Town, too to help all our firehouses not just this one. This is the first
one they are going to get older tanks are going to get older and mistakes are going to
happen.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-I don’t disagree with that George at all.
MR. RYAN-We have to keep that in the plan. It is unfortunate that it happened right
here this firehouse they got the firehouse back up to normal I think they did a great job
doing it, it was a big problem.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Thanks Mr. Ryan. Anybody else like to address the board on this
public hearing I will close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
RESOLUTION APPROVING BAY RIDGE VOLUNTEER FIRE
COMPANY, INC.’S PROPOSAL TO SEEK TAX-EXEMPT
FINANCING TO PAY FOR UNEXPECTED EXPENSES RELATED
TO HEATING OIL SPILL
RESOLUTION NO.: 435, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury and the Bay Ridge Volunteer Fire
Company, Inc. (Fire Company) have entered into an Agreement for fire protection
services, which Agreement sets forth a number of terms and conditions including a
condition that the Fire Company will not purchase or enter into any binding contract to
purchase any piece of apparatus, equipment, vehicles, real property, or make any
improvements that would require the Fire Company to acquire a loan or mortgage or use
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money placed in a “vehicles fund” without prior approval of the Queensbury Town
Board, and
WHEREAS, the Fire Company advised the Town Board that due to a serious
heating oil spill into the basement of its Fire Station resulting in the contamination of the
drywell system, the Fire Company has incurred thousands of dollars of unexpected expenses
related to the spill, clean-up and other related costs in the approximate amount of $200,000,
and
WHEREAS, the Fire Company has arranged for a 10 year tax-exempt installment
loan in an amount up to $200,000 with TD Banknorth to pay for such unexpected expenses
until such time that the Fire Company may be reimbursed for such expenses by the parties
causing such damages or by insurance carrier(s), with payments on the loan to be made from
the Fire Company’s operating budget, such monies already included in the Fire Company’s
approved 2008 budget and Agreement with the Town, and
WHEREAS, such expenses relate directly to the reconstruction or improvement of
the Fire Company’s Fire Station and/or the land where the Fire Station is located, and
nd
WHEREAS, on Monday, September 22, 2008, the Town Board held a public
hearing as required under the Internal Revenue Code concerning the Fire Company’s
proposal and debt incurrence and heard all interested persons, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board realizes that the Fire Company had no choice but to
arrange for the clean-up of and payment for the heating oil spill, and therefore the Town
Board wishes to adopt a Resolution authorizing the incurrence of tax-exempt debt by the
Fire Company,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby approves of the Bay Ridge
Volunteer Fire Company, Inc.’s proposed tax exempt financing to pay for unexpected
expenses related to the serious heating oil spill into the basement of the Bay Ridge Fire
Station, clean-up and other related costs in the approximate amount of $200,000, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further approves of the incurrence of
approximately $200,000 in debt with TD Banknorth by the Bay Ridge Volunteer Fire
Company, Inc., and
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BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town of Queensbury does not guarantee such debt with TD
Banknorth on behalf of the Fire Company nor does the Town Board create or intend to
create any assumption on the part of the Town of Queensbury of any obligation or
liability for the financing, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that any funding the Fire Company recovers through its efforts to
straighten out its insurance and litigation matters will all be applied against any loan that
is granted to the Fire Company, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town
Supervisor and/or Town Budget Officer to take any action necessary to effectuate all
terms of this Resolution.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, 2008 by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough
NOES : Mr. Stec, Mr. Brewer
ABSENT: None
COMMENTS DURING VOTE
SUPERVISOR STEC-It pains me to do it because I agree with a lot of what was said here,
but I do have a lot of concerns and I am going to vote no.
PUBLIC HEARING –CENTRAL QUEENSBURY QUAKER ROAD SEWER
DISTRICT BENEFIT TAX ROLL FOR 2009
WASTEWATER DIRECTOR, MIKE SHAW PRESENT
OPENED
NOTICE SHOWN
PUBLICATION DATE: SEPTEMBER 12, 2008
SUPERVISOR STEC-The next three are all annual Sewer District Benefit Tax Rolls. I
know Mike Shaw is here in case we have questions we do these on an annual basis the
first one is for the Quaker Road District. Mike is there anything you want to explain
before we start taking public comment on this or any of the three.
WASTEWATER DIRECTOR, MR. SHAW-As Dan explained this is an annual event for
these three districts. Basically what we are doing is we are upgrading the units in each
benefit roll. Those units are updated with information we receive in the Assessor
Department and the Water Department for our usage. Each year we update that
information and create a new roll every year we have public hearings for each one of
these. The first one is Central Queensbury Quaker Road Sewer District the units are up
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this year some hundred and sixty nine units to a total of nine thousand two hundred and
eight three point twenty seven units.
SUPERVISOR STEC-With that said I will open the public hearing if there is anybody
that would like to comment on the Quaker Road Sewer District Benefit Roll for next year
just raise your hand and I will call on you?
JOHN SALVADOR-I see there are two public hearings this evening one dealing with
Quaker Road Sewer District and the other one dealing with the Route 9 Sewer District.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Actually there is a third one South Queensbury.
MR. SALVADOR-I am not familiar with the circumstances of that that is why I didn’t
mention it. However, aren’t these two that I mentioned one in the same sewer districts
isn’t one a district extension of the other?
WASTEWATER DIRECTOR, MR. SHAW-No it is not they were both adopted at
different times. The Central Queensbury Quaker Road Sewer District is approximately I
will say twenty years old. Route 9 Sewer District is approximately four years old created
at two different times as two different sewer districts one does flow into the other.
MR. SALVADOR-Yes, but as I recall didn’t the Route 9 Sewer District pay into the
Quaker Road Sewer District?
WASTEWATER DIRECTOR, MR. SHAW-The Quaker Road Sewer District generally
pays all wages and insurances and things. Route 9 does pay each year a fee back into
Quaker Road Sewer District for their share of wages and insurances.
MR. SALVADOR-As, I recall when the Route 9 Sewer District was created it was a
district extension it was a Quaker Road Sewer District Extension No. 11 or 12 or
something like that I can’t recall.
WASTEWATER DIRECTOR, MR. SHAW-No, that is incorrect. We held public
hearings have Map, Plan, and Reports and they are two different districts within each
other. There have been district extension of Quaker Road and none of Route 9 yet, but
there has been I will say eleven or twelve district extensions off Quaker Road Sewer
District.
MR. SALVADOR-How can the Route 9 Sewer District flow into the Quaker Road Sewer
District without it being an extension of the Quaker Road Sewer District?
SUPERVISOR STEC-Thank you. Is there anyone else that would like to address the
board on this public hearing regarding the Quaker Road Sewer District Beneifit Roll,
seeing none I will close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
RESOLUTION ADOPTING CENTRAL QUEENSBURY QUAKER
ROAD
SEWER DISTRICT BENEFIT TAX ROLL FOR 2009
RESOLUTION NO. 436, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
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§
§
WHEREAS, in accordance with New York State Town Law 202 and 202-a, the
Queensbury Town Board has prepared the Central Queensbury Quaker Road Sewer District
Benefit Tax Roll for 2009 assessing the expense of district improvements of general sanitary
sewers located in the Central Queensbury Quaker Road Sewer District and filed the
completed Tax Roll in the Queensbury Town Clerk’s Office, and
WHEREAS, the Town Clerk posted and published the required Notice of Public
Hearing and mailed copies of the Notice to all property owners within the Benefit
Assessment District, and
nd
WHEREAS, the Town Board duly conducted a public hearing on September 22,
2008 and heard all interested persons,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby approves, confirms and
adopts the Central Queensbury Quaker Road Sewer District Benefit Tax Roll for 2009 for
payment of public improvement expenses within the District in accordance with New York
§
State Town Law §202 and 202-a, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to
issue a warrant to be signed by the Town Supervisor and Town Clerk commanding the
Town Tax Receiver to collect the sum(s) from persons named in the assessment roll and to
pay the sum(s) to the Town.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, 2008 by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
PUBLIC HEARING – ROUTE 9 SEWER DISTRICT BENEFIT TAX ROLL FOR
2009
OPENED
NOTICE SHOWN
PUBLICATION DATE: SEPTEMBER 12, 2008
SUPERVISOR STEC-Mike how many units is this one?
WASTEWATER DIRECTOR, MR. SHAW-This year that is up some hundred and thirty
six point zero seven units to a total of five thousand three hundred and eighty point thirty
three units.
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SUPERVISOR STEC-Is there anything else you want to add on this benefit roll?
WASTEWATER DIRECTOR, MR. SHAW-No.
SUPERVISOR STEC-The public hearing on this one is opened if there is anyone that
would like to comment just raise your hand I will call on you.
NO PUBLIC COMMENT
SUPERVISOR STEC-Seeing none, I will close the public hearing and entertain a motion.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
RESOLUTION ADOPTING ROUTE 9 SEWER DISTRICT
BENEFIT TAX ROLL FOR 2009
RESOLUTION NO. 437, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
§
§
WHEREAS, in accordance with New York State Town Law 202 and 202-a, the
Queensbury Town Board has prepared the Route 9 Sewer District Benefit Tax Roll for 2009
assessing the expense of district improvements of general sanitary sewers located in the
Route 9 Sewer District and filed the completed Tax Roll in the Queensbury Town Clerk’s
Office, and
WHEREAS, the Town Clerk posted and published the required Notice of Public
Hearing and mailed copies of the Notice to all property owners within the Benefit
Assessment District, and
nd
WHEREAS, the Town Board duly conducted a public hearing on September 22,
2008 and heard all interested persons,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby approves, confirms and
adopts the Route 9 Sewer District Benefit Tax Roll for 2009 for payment of public
improvement expenses within the District in accordance with New York State Town Law
§
§202 and 202-a, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to
issue a warrant to be signed by the Town Supervisor and Town Clerk commanding the
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Town Tax Receiver to collect the sum(s) from persons named in the assessment roll and to
pay the sum(s) to the Town.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, 2008 by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
PUBLIC HEARING – SOUTH QUEENSBURY –QUEENSBURY AVENUE SEWER
DISTRICT BENEFIT TAX ROLL FOR 2009
OPENED
NOTICE SHOWN
PUBLICATION DATE: SEPTEMBER 12, 2008
SUPERVISOR STEC-Mike how many units is this one up to now?
WASTEWATER DIRECTOR, MR. SHAW-This district up three quarters of a unit up to
nine hundred and eighty seven point forty six units. What is interesting I will say about
this district or multi-district I will say is that we also serve Kingsbury, Washington
County and Warren County Districts through our district. There is an Intermunicipal
Agreement that they bill and pay the same as people within our district. This public
hearing is only on our portion within Queensbury.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-Mike is there a number of units our capacity with Glens
Falls.
WASTEWATER DIRECTOR, MR. SHAW-The units have nothing to do with our
capacity to Glens Falls.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-That is gallons.
WASTEWATER DIRECTOR, MR. SHAW-That is gallons right.
SUPERVISOR STEC-That’s a good question. I will declare this public hearing open if
there is anyone that would like to comment on the South Queensbury Queensbury
Avenue Sewer District Benefit Roll for 2009?
NO PUBLIC COMMENT
SUPERVISOR STEC-I will close the public hearing and entertain a motion.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
RESOLUTION ADOPTING SOUTH QUEENSBURY – QUEENSBURY
AVENUE SEWER DISTRICT BENEFIT TAX ROLL FOR 2009
RESOLUTION NO. 438, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING 09-22-2008 MTG#42 28
§
§
WHEREAS, in accordance with New York State Town Law 202 and 202-a, the
Queensbury Town Board has prepared the South Queensbury – Queensbury Avenue Sewer
District Benefit Tax Roll for 2009 assessing the expense of district improvements of general
sanitary sewers located in the South Queensbury – Queensbury Avenue Sewer District and
filed the completed Tax Roll in the Queensbury Town Clerk’s Office, and
WHEREAS, the Town Clerk posted and published the required Notice of Public
Hearing and mailed copies of the Notice to all property owners within the Benefit
Assessment District, and
nd
WHEREAS, the Town Board duly conducted a public hearing on September 22,
2008 and heard all interested persons,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby approves, confirms and
adopts the South Queensbury – Queensbury Avenue Sewer District Benefit Tax Roll for
2009 for payment of public improvement expenses within the District in accordance with
§
New York State Town Law §202 and 202-a, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to
issue a warrant to be signed by the Town Supervisor and Town Clerk commanding the
Town Tax Receiver to collect the sum(s) from persons named in the assessment roll and to
pay the sum(s) to the Town.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, 2008 by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Strough, Mr.Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi
NOES : None
ABSENT: Mr. Brewer
3.0HEARING
HEARING – MARIANNE MCDONOUGH DBA GRAYCOURT MOTEL AND
THOMAS J. MCDONOUGH LAW OFFICE’S APPLICATION FOR
VARIANCE/WAIVER REQUEST FROM SANITARY SEWER CONNECTION
REQUIREMENT SET FORTH IN TOWN CODE CHAPTER 136 – SEWERS AND
SEWAGE DISPOSAL
THOMAS J. MCDONOUGH, ESQ PRESENT
OPENED
NOTICE SHOWN
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SUPERVISOR STEC-This is a hearing we have had many of these before in fact we have
had a couple on this property we are starting to see repeat requests on properties. This would
be if I am not mistaken the applicant is requesting further delay to tie in, in the future the site
that for the most part their current system is working adequately.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-Two hundred year old tree and fifty to ninety thousand dollars
to hook it up.
SUPERVISOR STEC-This request is for one year for a one year extension of time in which
case we can keep an eye on it Mr. Mc Donough do you have anything that you want to add?
MR. MC DONOUGH-It is all in the papers gentlemen. Basically we are talking anywhere
from sixty to ninety five thousand dollars to hook up over a thousand feet of line to connect
up to the public sewer. It is a seasonal business that we operate at that location that type of
money is prohibitive if you take a look at the sales tax revenues you will know why.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Tom one of the discussion I had it is not a huge deal I don’t think
either way. One of the conversations that I had with Mike Shaw about this in the past there
is your office there and then there is the motel. The feeling at least Mike gave to me maybe
I misunderstood him it might be feasible for your office to be tied in separately then the
motel?
MR. MC DONOUGH-That is good in concept. If we are going to go at the motel one of the
separate units of the motel based upon the semantics that were done by the proposers would
be to then hook the motel into part of the unit, which would be the office unit. The
discussion was at the time was since my office is not in the same title as the motel we would
have to go then to transfer the title, which I have no problem with transferring the title either
to a trust of the family or into my wife, my wife probably transferring title to the motel there
are a couple of hiccups before getting into that hookup.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Like, I said there was a question that I had it was not a show
stopper in my mind does the Town Board have any questions for Mr. Mc Donough?
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Is there ever an intention to hook up to the sewer?
MR. MC DONOUGH-With the type of money that is involved and the type of income
that is derived from the property….
SUPERVISOR STEC-Unless there is a redevelopment there.
MR. MC DONOUGH-Unless there was something like reconstruction doing something
like putting in I don’t want to say a Class A Motel because we considered it a Class A
Motel.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-Or failure of the system.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Right or failure of the system.
MR. MC DONOUGH-Or failure of the system that would be a consideration that is one
of the problems here.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Any other questions for Mr. Mc Donough? I will close this
hearing and entertain a motion.
HEARING CLOSED
APPROVING
RESOLUTION MARIANNE MCDONOUGH DBA
GRAYCOURT MOTEL AND THOMAS J. MCDONOUGH LAW
OFFICE’S APPLICATION FOR VARIANCE/WAIVER REQUEST
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FROM SANITARY SEWER CONNECTION REQUIREMENT SET
FORTH IN TOWN CODE
CHAPTER 136 – SEWERS AND SEWAGE DISPOSAL
RESOLUTION NO.: 439, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board is authorized by Town Code Chapter 136
§
to issue variances from 136-44 “Connection to sewers required” which requires Town
property owners situated within a sewer district and located within 250’ of a public sanitary
sewer of the sewer district to connect to the public sewer facilities within one (1) year from
the date of notice, and
WHEREAS, Marianne McDonough dba GrayCourt Motel and Thomas J.
McDonough Law Office (the McDonoughs) applied to the Local Board of Health for a third
§
variance/waiver from 136-44, as the McDonoughs requested an exemption from the
Town’s connection requirements to connect their Graycourt Motel and Law Office
properties to the Town of Queensbury’s Route 9 Sewer District, as the McDonoughs stated
that: connection with the lower Motel units must be constructed in a way to avoid
destruction of a 200 year old sprawling oak tree; in addition to excavating earth, all
connections will entail excavation of over 500 linear feet of black top and returning it to
original condition after connection would require complete resurfacing costing anywhere
between $57,000 to $96,000 - a financial hardship; current sewage disposal systems are in
excellent working condition and are used 8-10 weeks per year so it would not be cost
effective to connect; the Motel Office with seasonal residence is occupied during the same
time period as the Motel and the house facilities are for private use only – not public; and
the Law Office and Champlain Stone separate from the Motel are open by appointment and
th
have one regular secretary; all as more fully set delineated in the McDonough’s August 20,
2008 letter and application, and
WHEREAS, the Town Clerk’s Office mailed a Notice of Hearing to the
McDonoughs and the Town Board conducted a hearing concerning the variance/waiver
nd
request on Monday, September 22, 2008,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that
a) due to the nature of the variance/waiver request, the Queensbury Town Board
determines that the temporary granting of the variance/waiver would not be
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materially detrimental to the purposes and objectives of Queensbury Town Code
Chapter 136 and/or adjoining properties or otherwise conflict with the purpose
and objectives of any plan or policy of the Town of Queensbury; and
b) the Town Board finds that the granting of the variance/waiver is reasonable and
would alleviate unnecessary hardship on the applicants; and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby approves Marianne
McDonough dba GrayCourt Motel and Thomas J. McDonough Law Office (the
McDonoughs)’s application for a variance/waiver from Queensbury Town Code Chapter
§
136, 136-44 “Connection to sewers required” and hereby grants the McDonoughs a one-
nd
year extension of time or until September 22, 2009 in which to connect their properties
located at 1082 and 1088 State Route 9, Queensbury (Tax Map No.’s: 296.9-1-8 and 296.9-
1-9) to the Town of Queensbury’s Route 9 Sewer District, provided that if there is any
change in property use, increase in septic use or additional bathroom facilities added, then
such variance shall immediately terminate unless the Queensbury Town Board review and
approves a new application for a variance/waiver, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the McDonoughs shall pay all charges due as if their properties
were connected to the Route 9 Sewer District, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorizes the Town Supervisor, Wastewater
Director and/or Town Budget Officer to take any actions necessary to effectuate the terms of
this Resolution.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, 2008 by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
4.0PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR ( LIMIT – 4 MINUTES)
GEORGE WINTERS, 4 JOHN CLENDON ROAD-Spoke to the board regarding the
position of the table for the public to speak at Town Board Meeting recommended that
the board move the table so they can see the board and the audience.
JOANN SIGISMONDI, 168 AVIATION ROAD-Thanked Queensbury Central Firemen
for doing a fantastic job in responding to fires. Spoke to the board regarding her
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attendance at a Zoning Board Meeting will be attended a Planning Board Meeting
regarding Verizon who will pay the fire department to install a hundred and forty two
foot cell tower on Queensbury Central property on Aviation Road a residential
neighborhood about nine hundred feet from her house closer to other residents a hundred
feet from Prospect School. This would be precedence for allowing cell towers in a
residential neighborhood. At the meeting Verizon spoke, the public and lastly a fireman.
The firemen spoke at the microphone and continued talking to the resident as he was
walking back to his seat, which was behind me heard him say the fire company spoke
with Verizon made a contract and they spoke with Mr. Stec who said is was okay. Asked
Supervisor Stec if this was accurate if it was were the other board members aware of it, if
not why not?
SUPERVISOR STEC-That is not accurate. The only communication that I have had with
Queensbury Central Fire on this subject up until a week ago when it was coming to the
Zoning Board was a letter that I sent to the Chief in February of 2007. I was asked one
question, I believe I asked Town Counsel at the time it was a different Town Counsel
then. The question is there anything in the Town’s contract with the Fire Company that
prohibits them from entering into a contract like this with Verizon the answer is no. I
have never taken an opinion on it as to whether or not I thought there was wisdom in it. I
have spoken with the Chief and President asking them to strongly reconsider whether or
not they want to pursue this not sure that is a very good idea. With that said as far as
precedence goes I have served on the Zoning Board before I was on the Town Board nine
years ago unless something has change in the last eight years it has always been
presented to me by any Town Counsel I have spoken too that each zoning application is
on a case by case basis that one does not set a legal precedence for another. The reason
they are in front of the Zoning Board is because the Town’s current code does not allow
cell towers in a residential neighborhood.
SKIP STRANAHAN 1347 BAY ROAD-Spoke to the board regarding his concern with
Mr. Brother’s action at the previous meeting noting he does not think he meant any harm
or any physical threat to this board. Asked the board to reconsider and look at his
apology in the paper and consider that freedom of speech is the life blood of any
democracy in the United States or the free World.
SUPERVISOR STEC-If someone wants to apologize at a board meeting I am sure it will
be well received. However, I think what we experienced the other night went far beyond
an acceptable level of spirited debate.
JOHN SALVADOR-Presented letter to board members regarding the Crandall Public
Library Budget read letter into the record (letter on file in Town Clerk’s Office) Spoke to
the board regarding the Verizon Tower at the Queensbury Central Fire House commented
at the Zoning Board hearing intends to comment tomorrow night at the Planning Board
Meeting read comments into record regarding Queensbury Central Volunteer Fire
Company being incorporated in the New York State Not For Profit Corporation Law
Section 1402 as a Type B Not For Profit Corporation of the non-business type.
PLINEY TUCKER, 41 DIVISION ROAD-Spoke to the board regarding the hundred and
forty six acres that Finch and Pruyn owns on Big Boom Road. They have been surveying
understands due to the wood shortage they are going to go in and clear-cut the hundred
and forty six acres, which is on the river. At the present time they are across the river on
property they own and that is what they are doing. Asked Supervisor Stec to contact
someone at Finch and Pruyn’s to find out if they are going to clear-cut.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-You are allowed to clear-cut but you cannot subdivide for
five years afterwards.
MR. TUCKER-The hundred and forty six acres borders in places with the Town Park.
The records show that Ward 4 is the biggest Ward in the Town there is a fund where five
hundred dollars for every lot from the contractor goes into a fund to purchase property for
parks for improvements would like to know how much money is in that fund.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-It is in the hundred thousand dollar range.
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BUDGET OFFICER, MS. TIERNEY-A hundred twenty thousand.
MR. TUCKER-Spoke to the board asking them to contact the school regarding the school
buses asking them to pull over when there is a long line of traffic due to the gas shortage.
LINCOLN CATHERS, 47 OVERLOOK DRIVE-Spoke to the board regarding the
assessments for some of the property along the lake. The property along the lake feeds
into the tax base for Lake George School System, which includes property from Bolton
Landing, Lake George, North Queensbury, and from Fort Ann. Spoke regarding the
taxes that the seven and half million dollars those taxes that the seven and a half million
dollars represented was in the neighborhood of seventy five thousand dollars of taxes that
went to the Lake George System. Lake George School System did not reduce their
budget seventy five thousand dollars the seventy five thousand dollars got spread around
to the other people who pay taxes in the Lake George School District noting there are a
lot of people around the lake also Glen Lake that feed into the Lake George School
System that are picking up their share of that approximately seventy five thousand
dollars. I happen to pay taxes in Fort Ann, but in the Lake George School District the
best of my knowledge the Town of Fort Ann Board was not involved in that decision,
does not know about Bolton and Lake George. There are a lot of other properties on the
lake that did not get that six to twenty eight percent reduction as a result they as well as
anyone else in the Lake George School District is now paying their proportionate share of
that additional tax.
FORMER HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT, PAUL NAYLOR, DIVISION ROAD-
Spoke to the board regarding the upcoming budget.
5.0 RESOLUTIONS
RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING NEW CAPITAL PROJECT FUNDS
#172 AND#173 CONCERNING INFLOW/INFILTRATION STUDY
RESOLUTION NO.: 440, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Daniel Stec
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board wishes to establish Capital Project
Funds to fund an Inflow/Infiltration Study and/or repairs for the Town Wastewater
Department, and
WHEREAS, the total Project cost is estimated to be $30,000 and the Town Board
wishes to appropriately establish two (2) Capital Project Funds,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the
establishment of two (2) Capital Project Funds to be known as:
1.Central Queensbury Quaker Road Sewer District
Inflow/Infiltration Study Project Fund #172; and
2.Hiland Park Sewer District Inflow/Infiltration Study Project Fund
#173;
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which Funds will establish funding for expenses associated with the Wastewater
Department’s Inflow/Infiltration Study and/or Repairs, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs that funding for
this Project shall be by a transfer of $20,000 from Fund #032-9950-9030 to Capital
Project Fund #172 and $10,000 from Fund #034-9950-9030 to Capital Project Fund
#173, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes the Town Budget Officer to
take any and all actions necessary to transfer $30,000 from unappropriated, undesignated
Fund Balance to Account No.: 032-9950-9030 ($20,000) and Account No.: 034-9950-9030
($10,000) and effectuate such 2008 Budget Amendment, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby establishes initial appropriations and
estimated revenues for:
1.Capital Project Fund #172 in the amount of $20,000; and
2.Capital Project Fund #173 in the amount of $10,000;
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town
Budget Officer to take all action necessary to establish the following accounts for such
appropriations and revenues as necessary:
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Revenue Account No. 172-0000-55031 – Interfund Transfers -
$20,000
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Expense Account No. 172-8120-4400 - Misc. Contractual -
$20,000
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Revenue Account No. 173-0000-55031 – Interfund Transfers -
$10,000
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Expense Account No. 173-8120-4400 - Misc. Contractual -
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$10,000
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town
Budget Officer to amend the 2008 Town Budget, make any adjustments, budget
amendments, transfers or prepare any documentation necessary to establish such
appropriations and estimated revenues and effectuate all terms of this Resolution.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, 2008 by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING PURCHASE OF 2009 FORD F-350
4X4 PICK-UP TRUCK FOR USE BY WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT
RESOLUTION NO.: 441, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury’s Wastewater Director has advised the Town
Board that he wishes to replace a truck in his Department and purchase one (1) 2009 Ford F-
350 4x4 Pick-Up Truck, and
WHEREAS, New York State Bidding is not required as the purchase is under New
York State Contract No.: PC62886,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby approves of the Town
Wastewater Director’s purchase of one (1) 2009 Ford F-350 4x4 Pick-Up Truck from Van
Bortel Ford, Inc., in accordance with New York State Contract #PC62886 for an amount not
to exceed $36,714 from Account No.: 032-8120-2020, and
BE IT FURTHER,
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RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes the Town Budget Officer to
take any and all actions necessary to transfer $36,714 from unappropriated, undesignated
Fund Balance to Account No.: 032-8120-2020 and effectuate such 2008 Budget
Amendment, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town
Supervisor, Wastewater Director and/or Town Budget Officer to take such other and further
action as may be necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, 2008 by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AWARDING BID FOR ASPHALT ROLLER AT
TOWN WATER DEPARTMENT
RESOLUTION NO. 442, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHEREAS, in accordance with Resolution No.: 387,2008, the Town of
Queensbury’s Purchasing Agent duly advertised for bids for the purchase of an Asphalt
Roller at the Town’s Water Department as more clearly specified in bid specifications
prepared by the Town Water Superintendent and/or Town Purchasing Agent, and
WHEREAS, the Purchasing Agent and Water Superintendent have reviewed the
submitted proposals and recommended that the Town Board award the bid to the lowest
responsible bidder, Anderson Equipment Company,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby awards the bid for the
purchase of an Asphalt Roller for the Town’s Water Department from Anderson
Equipment Company for an amount not to exceed $15,254.00 to be paid for from Misc.
Equipment Account No.: 040-8340-2001, and
BE IT FURTHER,
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RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes the Town Budget Officer to
take any and all actions necessary to transfer $15,254.00 from unappropriated,
undesignated Fund Balance to Account No.: 040-8340-2001 and effectuate such 2008
Budget Amendment, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town
Supervisor, Purchasing Agent, Water Superintendent and/or Budget Officer to take any and
all actions necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, 2008 by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ADVERTISEMENT OF BIDS FOR
WATER DEPARTMENT HIGH LIFT PUMP REPLACEMENT
PROJECT
RESOLUTION NO.: 443, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHEREAS, by Resolution No.: 480,2007, the Queensbury Town Board authorized
engagement of Burley-Guminiak and Associates Consulting Engineers, P.L.L.C. (B-G) to
institute some of the recommendations outlined in the 2007 Energy Efficiency Study, such
recommendations include the replacement of two (2) 33 year old inefficient 400 HP motors
and pumps with two (2) new and more appropriately sized pumps, and
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury Water Superintendent and Civil Engineer
wish to advertise for bids for such High Lift Pump Replacement Project as will be more
clearly specified in bid documents and specifications to be prepared by B-G and in form
approved by the Water Department Superintendent and/or Civil Engineer, and
WHEREAS, General Municipal Law §103 requires that the Town advertise for bids
and award the bid to the lowest responsible bidder(s) meeting New York State statutory
requirements and the requirements set forth in the Town’s bidding documents,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
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RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the
Town’s Purchasing Agent and/or Burley-Guminiak and Associates Consulting Engineers,
P.L.L.C. to publish an advertisement for bids for the High Lift Pump Replacement Project in
the official newspaper for the Town of Queensbury, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Purchasing
Agent to open all bids received, read the same aloud and record the bids as is customarily
done and present the bids to the next regular or special meeting of the Town Board.
nd
Duly adopted this day of September 22, 2008, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ADVERTISEMENT OF BIDS
FOR SALE OF OBSOLETE TRUCK
RESOLUTION NO.: 444, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHEREAS, in accordance with New York State Town Law §64(2), the Queensbury
Town Board may authorize the sale of items which are no longer needed by the Town or
obsolete, and
WHEREAS, the Town’s Parks and Recreation Department has declared a 2000
Dodge Ram, ¾ Ton Pick-Up Truck (112,861 miles) with an 8’ Fischer Plow as surplus, and
WHEREAS, the Parks and Recreation Department advised Town Departments of
the surplus truck and plow and did not receive any requests from the Departments and
therefore has requested Town Board authorization to sell the truck and plow by advertising
in the official Town newspaper,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
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RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby approves the sale of the
Town Parks and Recreation Department’s 2000 Dodge Ram, ¾ Ton Pick-Up Truck
(112,861 miles) with an 8’ Fischer Plow that is no longer needed by the Town or obsolete,
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the
Town’s Purchasing Agent to publish an advertisement for bids to sell the surplus truck and
plow in the official newspaper for the Town of Queensbury, and that all Town proceeds
from the sale shall be deposited in accordance with the Queensbury Town Code and Laws
of the State of New York, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Purchasing
Agent to open all bids received, read the same aloud and record the bids as is customarily
done and present the bids to the next regular or special meeting of the Town Board.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, 2008, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
Senior Planner to execute Grant Award Agreements and take such other and
further action as may be necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION APPOINTING LISAMARIE WHITE TO
TOWN OF QUEENSBURY RECREATION COMMISSION
RESOLUTION NO. 445, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
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WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury previously established the Town of
Queensbury Recreation Commission in accordance with applicable New York State law,
and
WHEREAS, a vacancy exists on the Recreation Commission, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board interviewed candidates and wishes to appoint
Lisamarie White to the Recreation Commission,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby appoints Lisamarie White to
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the Town of Queensbury Recreation Commission, such term to expire on December 31,
2013.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September 2008, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer
NOES: : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING APPLICATION FOR FUNDS FROM
NEW YORK STATE OFFICE OF CHILDREN & FAMILY SERVICES
RESOLUTION NO.: 446, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury’s Director of Parks and Recreation (Director)
has advised the Queensbury Town Board that the Town is again eligible to apply for funds
from the New York State Office of Children & Family Services (OCFS) relating to Town
recreation programs, and
WHEREAS, the Director has requested Town Board authorization to prepare a
funding application in the amount of $8,500 for youth recreation programs eligible for
matching reimbursement from OCFS through the Warren County Youth Bureau,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
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RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the
Town’s Director of Parks and Recreation to prepare the application for recreation funds
from the New York State Office of Children & Family Services and the Town Supervisor to
execute such funding application, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that in the event that the Town does receive such recreation funds, the
Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Budget Officer to amend the Town
Budget by increasing Revenue Account No.: 001-0000-53820 (Youth Program) and
Operating Account No.: 001-7110-4824 (Recreation Programs) by the amount of $8,500.,
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town
Supervisor, Parks and Recreation Director and/or Town Budget Officer to take any other
action necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, 2008, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TRANSPORTATION AGREEMENT
BETWEEN CITY OF GLENS FALLS – GREATER GLENS FALLS
TRANSIT SYSTEM AND TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
RESOLUTION NO.: 447, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHEREAS, the City of Glens Falls operates a public mass transportation system
known as the Greater Glens Falls Transit System (Transit System) which provides transit
bus service within portions of Saratoga, Warren and Washington Counties, and
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury’s current Transportation Agreement with the
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Transit System will expire December 31, 2008 and the Transit System has submitted a new
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Transportation Agreement for January 1, 2009 through December 31, 2010 to the Town for
approval, and
WHEREAS, such Agreement provides for the continuance of an Advisory
Transportation Committee consisting of two members from the Transit System and two
members from each participating community, and historically the Town of Queensbury’s
two representatives have been the Town Supervisor and Executive Director of Community
Development, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board believes that this public transportation service benefits
and serves the public interest of Town residents, and
WHEREAS, a copy of the Agreement has been presented at this meeting and is in
form approved by Town Counsel,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby approves the Transportation
Agreement between the City of Glens Falls’ Greater Glens Falls Transit System and Town
of Queensbury presented at this meeting for an amount of $53,325 annually for 2009 and
2010, to be paid from the appropriate account, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further approves of the appointment of the Town
Supervisor and Senior Planner as the Town of Queensbury’s representatives on the Greater
Glens Falls Transit System Advisory Transportation Committee, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor to
execute the Agreement and the Town Supervisor and/or Budget Officer to take such other
and further action necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, 2008, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
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RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SETTLEMENT OF EQUAL
EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY COMMISSION MATTER
RESOLUTION NO.: 448, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHEREAS, Paul Schonewolf filed a Complaint with the U.S. Equal Employment
Opportunity Commission (EEOC) charging the Town of Queensbury (Town) with
discrimination on the basis of age, under the Age Discrimination in Employment Act, 29
USC §630, (ADCA) based upon the allegation that the Town discriminated against
firefighters in the years between 1990 and 2006 because firefighters aged 62 and older could
not earn firefighting service credit under the Length of Service Award Program (LOSAP),
and
WHEREAS, the Town agrees that firefighters 62 years of age and older were not
allowed to earn firefighter service credit because General Municipal Law §214 et seq.,
would not allow crediting firefighters over age 62 during this period of time but limited the
Town to making prospective changes to the LOSAP, and
WHEREAS, in 2007, the Town amended its LOSAP to allow then currently active
firefighters to accrue prospective service credit without regard to age, and
WHEREAS, firefighters who served between the years of 1990 and 2006 are
entitled to retroactive credit for their service during those years, and
WHEREAS, the Town has provided EEOC with a list, based upon information
supplied by the Town’s five (5) Fire Companies setting forth the impacted firefighters, a
true and correct copy of which is presented at this meeting, and
WHEREAS, based upon the information provided to EEOC, EEOC has prepared a
Determination Letter and Conciliation Proposal, a draft copy of which is presented at this
meeting, and
WHEREAS, the Town wishes to accept this Proposal and to ensure that all
firefighters are promptly paid or credited for awards due them under the LOSAP Program
for the years between 1990 and 2006,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, in light of the foregoing, the Queensbury Town Board hereby
authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor to execute the final Conciliation Agreement
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resolving the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) Charge No.: 520-
2007-02662 in the form approved by Town Counsel, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town’s
Budget Officer to issue any payments due to formerly active volunteer firefighters based
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upon their restored credit by no later than October 30, 2008 from the account(s) deemed
to be appropriate by the Budget Officer, and to submit written documentation of such
payments to the EEOC, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town
Supervisor and/or Executive Assistant to restore LOSAP credit for the years between
1990 and 2006 to each identified firefighter, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town agrees to provide ADEA training for all managerial
employee firefighters and for all non-managerial firefighters by no later than October
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30, 2008 consistent with the EEOC Conciliation Agreement and agrees to post EEOC
posters in places visually accessible to applicants and employees of the Respondent, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town
Supervisor, Town Clerk, Town Budget Officer and Town Counsel to otherwise file any
necessary documentation and take any and all actions necessary to ensure compliance
with the Conciliation Agreement and effectuate all terms of this Resolution.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, 2008, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi
NOES : None
ABSENT : None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING COMMENCEMENT OF
SUPREME COURT ACTION IN CONNECTION WITH
TOWN OF QUEENSBURY V. BRIAN GRANGER
RESOLUTION NO.: 449, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Daniel Stec
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WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
WHEREAS, Chapter 179 of the Town Code provides for administration and
enforcement of the Town’s Zoning Ordinance and related laws, codes, ordinances, and
regulations, and
WHEREAS, in 2005, Brian Granger approached the Town with the desire to use
property located at 18 Newcomb Street in the Town’s Mixed Use Zone for a parking garage
facility to be used in conjunction with a repossession business, and
WHEREAS, the Town’s Zoning Administrator determined that this was not an
allowed use in the Mixed Use Zone, and
WHEREAS, such determination was appealed to the Town’s Zoning Board of
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Appeals (ZBA) which upheld the Zoning Administrator’s determination on March 22,
2006, and
WHEREAS, the property owner persists in using his property in violation of the
Town Zoning Ordinance, and
WHEREAS, the Town’s Community Development Department has received
complaints regarding the illegal use of this property, and
WHEREAS, it is apparent that the property owner is aware that his use of the
property is illegal yet persists in violating the Town’s Zoning Ordinance, and
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WHEREAS, by letter dated September 15, 2008, the Town’s Zoning Administrator
sent a letter to Mr. Granger directing him to cease all illegal use of the property by October
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15, 2008, and
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Court has no jurisdiction to provide injunctive
relief and the only avenue available to require compliance with the Town Code including
the Zoning Ordinance is by recourse to the Supreme Court, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board wishes to pursue such preliminary and permanent
injunctive relief,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
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RESOLVED, that in the event that Brian Granger fails to comply with the Town
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Zoning Administrator’s letter of September 15, 2008 by terminating all illegal use of his
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property by October 15, 2008, the Queensbury Town Board hereby authorizes and directs
Town Counsel to commence a Warren County Supreme Court action against Brian
Granger to seek preliminary and permanent injunctive relief to require the immediate and
permanent cessation of the operation of a vehicle storage facility and associated auto
repossession business in the MU Zone as referenced in the preambles of this Resolution,
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town’s
Budget Officer to arrange for payment of any Court and/or litigation costs related to this
matter from the account(s) deemed to be appropriate by the Budget Officer, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs Town Counsel
to file any necessary documentation to commence such proceeding and the Town
Supervisor, Town Counsel, Zoning Administrator and/or Town Budget Officer to take
any and all action necessary to effectuate all terms of this Resolution.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, 2008, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough
NOES : None
ABSENT : None
RESOLUTION TO AMEND 2008 BUDGET
RESOLUTION NO.: 450, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHEREAS, the following Budget Amendment Requests have been duly initiated
and justified and are deemed compliant with Town operating procedures and accounting
practices by the Town Budget Officer,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
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RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the
Town’s Accounting Office to take all action necessary to amend the 2008 Town Budget
as follows:
From To
CodeAppropriationCodeAppropriation$
001-1990-4400 Contingency 001-3410-4410 Fire Marshall Fuel 250
001-1990-4400 Contingency 001-3510-4410 Animal Control Fuel 750
001-1990-4400 Contingency 001-8010-4410 Zoning Fuel 1,000
001-1990-4400 Contingency 001-3620-4410 Bldg&Codes Fuel 1,750
001-8020-4410 Planning Fuel 001-3620-4410 Bldg&Codes Fuel 1,000
001-1990-4400 Contingency 001-1620-4410 Bldg&Grounds Fuel 3,000
001-1990-4400 Contingency 001-7110-4410 Parks & Rec Fuel 5,000
001-1680-1010 IT Wages 001-1680-2001 Misc. Equipment 10,000
001-7020-1010 Rec Wages 001-7110-4110 Recreation Veh. Repair 2,000
001-7020-1010 Rec Wages 001-7020-4120 Rec Printing 1,500
Hwy.
004-5130-4200 004-5130-2020 Vehicles 5,000
Insurance
Computer
032-1680-2032 032-8110-4105 Mobile Communication 300
Software
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, 2008, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ENGAGEMENT OF SIGNWORKS,
INC. FOR CREATION AND PLACEMENT OF SIGN BETWEEN
TOWN OFFICE AND ACTIVITIES CENTER COMPLEXES AND
AGREEMENT BETWEEN TOWN OF QUEENSBURY AND
QUEENSBURY SENIOR CITIZENS, INC.
RESOLUTION NO.: 451, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
,
WHEREASthe Town of Queensbury wishes to erect a sign in front of Town Hall
to inform the public of Town meetings, events, activities and/or public information, and
,
WHEREASthe Town has also received a request from the Queensbury Senior
Citizens, Inc. (Seniors) to erect signage on Town property to inform Seniors and other
community members of various local services available to them, and
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WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury’s Facilities Manager requested proposals
from sign companies regarding the creation and placement of such exterior illuminated sign
to be positioned between the Town Office and Activities Center Complexes, and
WHEREAS, proposals were received and reviewed by the Facilities Manager and he
has recommended that the Town award the proposal to Signworks, Inc., for an amount not
to exceed $6,166.00, in accordance with his September 11, 2008 Memorandum to the Town
Supervisor presented at this meeting, and
WHEREAS, the Town would pay for such sign installation with the understanding
that the Seniors would reimburse the Town for one-half (1/2) the cost of construction and
st
installation of such sign by paying the Town the sum of $3,083.00 on or before the 31 day
of October, 2008, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board wishes to award such proposal and also enter into an
Agreement between the Town and Seniors concerning the use of such sign, and
WHEREAS, a proposed Agreement between the Town and the Seniors is presented
at this meeting and is in form acceptable to Town Counsel,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby authorizes and directs
engagement of Signworks, Inc., to create and install an exterior illuminated sign to be
positioned between the Town Office and Activities Center Complexes as referenced in the
preambles of this Resolution for a total amount not to exceed $6,166.00, with the
understanding that the Seniors shall reimburse the Town for one-half (1/2) the cost of
construction and installation of such sign by paying the Town the sum of $3,083.00 on or
st
before the 31 day of October, 2008, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town’s share, $3,083.00, shall be paid from the appropriate
account as may be determined by the Town Budget Officer, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and approves the Agreement
between the Town of Queensbury and Queensbury Senior Citizens, Inc., contingent upon
the Seniors approving and signing the Agreement, and authorizes and directs the Town
Supervisor to execute such Agreement, and
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BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town
Supervisor, Facilities Manager and/or Town Budget Officer to take all actions necessary to
effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, 2008, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION APPROVING GRANT AWARD FOR CASE FILE
#5772 IN CONNECTION WITH NEW YORK STATE DIVISION OF
HOUSING AND COMMUNITY RENEWAL HOME PROGRAM
20073216
RESOLUTION NO.: 452, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury has established a Housing Rehabilitation
Program which provides grants to cover 100% of the cost of rehabilitation up to a
maximum of $25,000, whichever is less, and
#5772
WHEREAS, a single family property Case File has been determined to be
eligible for rehabilitation grant assistance and the owner of the property has requested
such assistance, and
WHEREAS, property rehabilitation specifications will be provided to three (3)
qualified contractors for bid, and
WHEREAS, the low bid cost to complete the work specified will be verified upon
receipt of bidding documents, and
WHEREAS, Shelter Planning & Development, Inc. has overseen the grant
process and has verified that it has been followed in this case and recommends approving
this grant, and
WHEREAS, a lien will be filed against the property for the benefit of the Town
for a period of five years from the completion of the rehabilitation,
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NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
#5772
RESOLVED, that the Town of Queensbury approves a grant for Case File ,
Twenty five thousand dollars and
Queensbury, New York, in the amount not to exceed:
no cents ($25,000.00)
and authorizes and directs either the Town Supervisor or Town of
Queensbury Senior Planner to execute Grant Award Agreements and take such other and
further action as may be necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION APPROVING GRANT AWARD FOR CASE FILE
#5773 IN CONNECTION WITH NEW YORK STATE DIVISION OF
HOUSING AND COMMUNITY RENEWAL HOME PROGRAM
20073216
RESOLUTION NO.: 453, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury has established a Housing Rehabilitation
Program which provides grants to cover 100% of the cost of rehabilitation up to a
maximum of $25,000, whichever is less, and
#5773
WHEREAS, a single family property Case File has been determined to be
eligible for rehabilitation grant assistance and the owner of the property has requested
such assistance, and
WHEREAS, property rehabilitation specifications will be provided to three (3)
qualified contractors for bid, and
WHEREAS, the low bid cost to complete the work specified will be verified upon
receipt of bidding documents, and
WHEREAS, Shelter Planning & Development, Inc. has overseen the grant
process and has verified that it has been followed in this case and recommends approving
this grant, and
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WHEREAS, a lien will be filed against the property for the benefit of the Town
for a period of five years from the completion of the rehabilitation,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
#5773
RESOLVED, that the Town of Queensbury approves a grant for Case File ,
Twenty five thousand dollars and
Queensbury, New York, in the amount not to exceed:
no cents ($25,000.00)
and authorizes and directs either the Town Supervisor or Town of
Queensbury Senior Planner to execute Grant Award Agreements and take such other and
further action as may be necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION APPROVING GRANT AWARD FOR CASE FILE
#5774IN CONNECTION WITH NEW YORK STATE DIVISION OF
HOUSING AND COMMUNITY RENEWAL HOME PROGRAM
20073216
RESOLUTION NO.:454, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury has established a Housing Rehabilitation
Program which provides grants to cover 100% of the cost of rehabilitation up to a
maximum of $25,000, whichever is less, and
#5774
WHEREAS, a single family property Case File has been determined to be
eligible for rehabilitation grant assistance and the owner of the property has requested
such assistance, and
WHEREAS, property rehabilitation specifications will be provided to three (3)
qualified contractors for bid, and
WHEREAS, the low bid cost to complete the work specified will be verified upon
receipt of bidding documents, and
WHEREAS, Shelter Planning & Development, Inc. has overseen the grant
REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING 09-22-2008 MTG#42 52
process and has verified that it has been followed in this case and recommends approving
this grant, and
WHEREAS, a lien will be filed against the property for the benefit of the Town
for a period of five years from the completion of the rehabilitation,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
#5774
RESOLVED, that the Town of Queensbury approves a grant for Case File ,
Twenty five thousand dollars and
Queensbury, New York, in the amount not to exceed:
no cents ($25,000.00)
and authorizes and directs either the Town Supervisor or Town of
Queensbury Senior Planner to execute Grant Award Agreements and take such other and
further action as may be necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION APPROVING GRANT AWARD FOR CASE #5775 IN
CONNECTION WITH NEW YORK STATE DIVISION OF
HOUSING AND
COMMUNITY RENEWAL HOME PROGRAM 20073216
RESOLUTION NO.: 455, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury has established a Housing Rehabilitation
Program which provides grants to cover 100% of the cost of rehabilitation up to a
maximum of $25,000, whichever is less, and
#5775
WHEREAS, a single family property Case File has been determined to be
eligible for rehabilitation grant assistance and the owner of the property has requested
such assistance, and
WHEREAS, property rehabilitation specifications will be provided to three (3)
qualified contractors for bid, and
WHEREAS, the low bid cost to complete the work specified will be verified upon
REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING 09-22-2008 MTG#42 53
receipt of bidding documents, and
WHEREAS, Shelter Planning & Development, Inc. has overseen the grant
process and has verified that it has been followed in this case and recommends approving
this grant, and
WHEREAS, a lien will be filed against the property for the benefit of the Town
for a period of five years from the completion of the rehabilitation,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
#5775
RESOLVED, that the Town of Queensbury approves a grant for Case File ,
Twenty five thousand dollars and
Queensbury, New York, in the amount not to exceed:
no cents ($25,000.00)
and authorizes and directs either the Town Supervisor or Town of
Queensbury Senior Planner to execute Grant Award Agreements and take such other and
further action as may be necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION APPROVING GRANT AWARD FOR CASE FILE
# 5576 IN CONNECTION WITH NEW YORK STATE DIVISION OF
HOUSING AND COMMUNITY RENEWAL HOME PROGRAM
20073216
RESOLUTION NO.: 456, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury has established a Housing Rehabilitation
Program which provides grants to cover 100% of the cost of rehabilitation up to a
maximum of $25,000, whichever is less, and
#5776
WHEREAS, a single family property Case File has been determined to be
eligible for rehabilitation grant assistance and the owner of the property has requested
such assistance, and
WHEREAS, property rehabilitation specifications will be provided to three (3)
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qualified contractors for bid, and
WHEREAS, the low bid cost to complete the work specified will be verified upon
receipt of bidding documents, and
WHEREAS, Shelter Planning & Development, Inc. has overseen the grant
process and has verified that it has been followed in this case and recommends approving
this grant, and
WHEREAS, a lien will be filed against the property for the benefit of the Town
for a period of five years from the completion of the rehabilitation,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
#5776
RESOLVED, that the Town of Queensbury approves a grant for Case File ,
Twenty five thousand dollars and
Queensbury, New York, in the amount not to exceed:
no cents ($25,000.00)
and authorizes and directs either the Town Supervisor or Town of
Queensbury Senior Planner to execute Grant Award Agreements and take such other and
further action as may be necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec
NOES: None
ABSENone
NT:
RESOLUTION APPROVING GRANT AWARD FOR CASE FILE
#5777 IN CONNECTION WITH NEW YORK STATE DIVISION OF
HOUSING AND COMMUNITY RENEWAL HOME PROGRAM
20073216
RESOLUTION NO.: 457, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury has established a Housing Rehabilitation
Program which provides grants to cover 100% of the cost of rehabilitation up to a
maximum of $25,000, whichever is less, and
#5777
WHEREAS, a single family property Case File has been determined to be
eligible for rehabilitation grant assistance and the owner of the property has requested
REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING 09-22-2008 MTG#42 55
such assistance, and
WHEREAS, property rehabilitation specifications will be provided to three (3)
qualified contractors for bid, and
WHEREAS, the low bid cost to complete the work specified will be verified upon
receipt of bidding documents, and
WHEREAS, Shelter Planning & Development, Inc. has overseen the grant
process and has verified that it has been followed in this case and recommends approving
this grant, and
WHEREAS, a lien will be filed against the property for the benefit of the Town
for a period of five years from the completion of the rehabilitation,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
#5777
RESOLVED, that the Town of Queensbury approves a grant for Case File ,
Twenty five thousand dollars and
Queensbury, New York, in the amount not to exceed:
no cents ($25,000.00)
and authorizes and directs either the Town Supervisor or Town of
Queensbury Senior Planner to execute Grant Award Agreements and take such other and
further action as may be necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION APPROVING AUDIT OF BILLS –
ND
WARRANT OF SEPTEMBER 22, 2008
RESOLUTION NO.: 458, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board wishes to approve the audit of bills
th
presented as the Warrant with a run date of September 18, 2008 and a payment date of
rd
September 23, 2008,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
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RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby approves the Warrant with a
thrd
run date of September 18, 2008 and payment date of September 23, 2008 totaling
$408,132.26, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town
Supervisor and/or Town Budget Officer to take such other and further action as may be
necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, 2008, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING DRAINAGE EASEMENTS FROM
PROPERTY OWNERS ALONG MICHAELS DRIVE
RESOLUTION NO.: 459, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury’s Town Engineer and Town Highway
Superintendent have determined that the Town of Queensbury needs easements from
certain property owners in the vicinity of Michael’s Drive for drainage purposes, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board agrees that acquisition of such drainage easements
will help the Town prevent possible damage to a Town highway, Michael’s Drive, and
will benefit Town residents, and therefore the Town Board wishes to authorize
acceptance of such drainage easements,
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby accepts drainage
easements from the following property owners:
PROPERTY OWNER ADDRESS TAX MAP
NO.
Michael LaBonte 516 Luzerne Road 308.6-1-86
Douglas & Wendy Vance Burch Road 308.6-1-79
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Douglas & Wendy Vance 33 Dean Drive 308.6-1-78
Michael LeBlanc 34 Warren Lane 308.6-1-67
for the purposes of resolving drainage problems affecting a Town Highway, Michaels
Drive, as set forth in the preambles of this Resolution and in form acceptable to Town
Counsel and the Town Highway Superintendent, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town
Supervisor, Town Highway Superintendent, Town Engineer and/or Town Counsel to take
such other and further action as may be necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, 2008 by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING DRAINAGE EASEMENT FROM
MATTHEW BALL ALONG MICHAELS DRIVE IN EXCHANGE FOR
RIGHT-OF-WAY AND EASEMENT
RESOLUTION NO.: 460, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury’s Town Engineer and Town Highway
Superintendent have determined that the Town of Queensbury needs an easement from
property owner Matthew Ball in the vicinity of Michael’s Drive for drainage purposes
relating to such Town highway, and
WHEREAS, the lands of Matthew Ball are needed to construct such drainage
easement, and
WHEREAS, Town of Queensbury owns a 275’ x 50’ vacant strip of land,
consisting of .20 acres on Michaels Drive between lots with Tax Map No.’s: 301.18-1-5
and 308.6-1-17 which Mr. Ball desires as a right of way for ingress and egress to other
lands he owns bearing Tax Map No.’s: 308.6-1-15 and 308.6-1-16, and
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WHEREAS, Mr. Ball wishes to access these other lands through property owned
by the Town of Queensbury, which land is not currently a Town highway, and
WHEREAS, the Town Assessor has estimated that the value of the easement
being granted is substantially equal to the value of the drainage easement the Town is
receiving, and
WHEREAS, the Town and Mr. Ball intend to swap the drainage easement for the
benefit of both parties for access to other lands of Mr. Ball for the benefit of Mr. Ball
without any cost to the Town,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby accepts a drainage
easement from Matthew Ball of 5 Algonquin Drive over property bearing Tax Map No.:
308.6-1-28 for the purposes of addressing drainage problems affecting a Town Highway,
Michaels Drive, as set forth in the preambles of this Resolution and in form acceptable to
Town Counsel and the Town Highway Superintendent, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorizes the granting in exchange of a right-
of-way easement through the lands of the Town of Queensbury located between lots
bearing Tax Map No.’s: 301.18-1-5 and 308.6-1-17 where the Town will provide such
right-of-way easement in form acceptable to Town Counsel, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town
Supervisor, Town Highway Superintendent, Town Engineer and/or Town Counsel to take
such other and further action as may be necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, 2008 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
6.0CORRESPONDENCE
DEPUTY CLERK, O’BRIEN-Supervisor Report for Community Development and
Building and Codes for the month of August, 2008 on file in the Town Clerk’s Office.
7.0TOWN BOARD DISCUSSIONS
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COUNCILMAN METIVIER
?
Attendance at tonight’s meeting was much better than recent weeks encourage
people to come sit down watch the meeting encourage open government would
like to see more people come out.
?
Spoke regarding an article in the paper regarding the lack of Volunteer
Firefighters especially younger ones. Need to encourage people to come out to
their local fire departments and volunteers if you get enough people to do it the
time commitment might not be so bad.
?
Cronin Road being repaved this week started work today should be done by end
of the week.
?
Glen Lake Road new 30 mph signs put up over the last week encourage people to
obey the signs there will be increased road patrols.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI
?
In receipt of Audit done by an outside Audit Firm for the Town quite a
compliment to our group of ladies and Barbara Tierney did not identify any
deficiencies internal control over financial reporting.
?
In receipt of Library Budget four million dollars our share of that four million
three thousand seven hundred and sixty seven dollars is one million six one zero
seven five four for the Town of Queensbury an increase this year over last year of
almost six hundred thousand.
?
Spoke regarding Building Inspector Report twenty million dollars worth of valued
construction in Town this year for the month it was a million three. There are five
million dollars in single family homes and six million dollars in commercial
industrial building.
COUNCILMAN STROUGH
?
Spoke regarding the proposed cell tower has spent a lot of time on this the
location of this is Queensbury Central No. 2 Firehouse on Aviation Road, has
reservations about this.
?
Spoke regarding article in the Post Star on Parking Standards.
?
Spoke regarding article in the Post Star regarding algae growth that has been
noticed in Lake George noted his concern, but is hopeful will be working on the
waterfront zoning in the near future. It may give the board an opportunity to
update our land use regulation and management and put in some more best
practices more up to date best practices in our waterfront residential.
COUNCILMAN BREWER
?
Asked Supervisor Stec to write a letter to Theresa Sayward and or Betty Little
regarding fencing for the Northway Bridges.
?
West End Park is near completion.
?
Congratulated Walter Grishkot and volunteers regarding the Balloon Festival.
?
Spoke regarding the paving in the Cemetery asked where they stood on that and
on the sewer hookup at Supervisor Stec to check into this.
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?
Spoke regarding the PCB Plant on Luzerne Road spoke with the gentleman who
runs the plant. The bloom that people are seeing coming out of the stack that
they have is actually steam it is not smoke nothing to do with the PCB’s. To meet
this Thursday or Friday morning with them will report hopefully the week after
next showing that it is ninety ninety point nine percent pure air coming out of this
mostly moisture created by the drop in temperature.
SUPERVISOR STEC
?
Received a couple calls last week related to the cleanup that is going on
Luzerne Road. It is a DEC Project has DEC contact information if there is
anyone out there that is seeing this and is curious about this asked for them to
call his office for the number.
?
Spoke regarding the Balloon Festival Walt and Joan Grishkot and all their
Board of Director members, volunteers that worked on South Queensbury Fire
Department; Bay Ridge Rescue Squad recognized their effort.
?
Town Hall is making our own sewer tie-in for the Town Complex they are
waiting for some fabrication work off site to be done so that the final piece
can be dropped into place the expectation is that it will be done within the
next two weeks.
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Thanked TV 8 and sponsors for televising the meetings.
RESOLUTION ENTERING EXECUTIVE SESSION
RESOLUTION NO. 461, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from
Regular Session and enters into Executive Session to discuss a Union Grievance Stage III
request.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, 2008, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION ADJOURNING EXECUTIVE SESSION
RESOLUTION NO. 462, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from
Executive Session and moves back into Regular Session no action taken.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, 2008, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier
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Noes: None
Absent: None
RESOLUTION ADJOURNING REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING
RESOLUTION 463, 2008
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns its
Regular Town Board Meeting.
nd
Duly adopted this 22 day of September, 2008, by the following vote:
Ayes: Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi
Noes: None
Absent:None
Respectfully Submitted,
Darleen M. Dougher
Town Clerk
Town of Queensbury