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QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING
FIRST REGULAR MEETING
FEBRUARY 18, 2020
INDEX
Site Plan No. 81-2019 Meghan & Daniel Frazier 1.
Tax Map No. 227.17-1-11
Site Plan No. 53-2019 APEX Capital, LLC 9.
Tax Map No. 307.-1-29, 315.5-1-3.2, 315.5-1-2
Site Plan No. 8-2020 Thomas Heinzelman 10.
ZBA RECOMMENDATION Tax Map No. 289.7-1-19
Site Plan No. 5-2020 Aftab (Sam) Bhatti 12.
ZBA RECOMMENDATION Tax Map No. 302.5-1-51
Site Plan No. 7-2020 William Rudenko 14.
Tax Map No. 279.-1-9
Site Plan No. 10-2020 Hudson Headwaters Health Network 15.
Tax Map No. 308.16-2-2.2
THESE ARE NOT OFFICIALLY ADOPTED MINUTES AND ARE SUBJECT TO BOARD AND STAFF
REVISIONS. REVISIONS WILL APPEAR ON THE FOLLOWING MONTH’S MINUTES (IF ANY) AND
WILL STATE SUCH APPROVAL OF SAID MINUTES.
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QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING
FIRST REGULAR MEETING
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FEBRUARY 18, 2020
7:00 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT
STEPHEN TRAVER, CHAIRMAN
CHRIS HUNSINGER, VICE CHAIRMAN
BRAD MAGOWAN
JOHN SHAFER
MICHAEL VALENTINE
MICHAEL DIXON, ALTERNATE – ACTING SECRETARY
MEMBERS ABSENT
JAMIE WHITE
DAVID DEEB
LAND USE PLANNER-LAURA MOORE
STENOGRAPHER-MARIA GAGLIARDI
MR. TRAVER-Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Town of Queensbury Planning
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Board meeting for Tuesday, February 18, 2020. This is our first meeting for the month of February and
our third meeting thus far for 2020. I want to make note of one application, APEX Capital, LLC. If there’s
anyone in the audience that’s here tonight to comment on that application, it’s going to be tabled for one
week for some additional information that we’re seeking. So instead of seeing that tonight we’ll be seeing
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that a week from tonight on the 25. We’ll have a motion to that effect in a little bit. So the first item is
approval of minutes under Administrative Items. And before I do that I should point out the illuminated
exit signs. In the case of an emergency those are your emergency exits. If you have an electronic device,
which I’ll remind myself, please either turn it off or turn the ringer off so it doesn’t interrupt our meeting.
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And with that we’ll do an administrative item, which is approval of minutes from the December 17, 2019
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and December 19, 2019 meeting.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
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December 17, 2019
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December 19, 2019
MOTION TO APPROVE THE QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES OF
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DECEMBER 17 & DECEMBER 19, 2019, Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption,
seconded by John Shafer:
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Duly adopted this 18 day of February, 2020, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Dixon, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Valentine, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: Ms. White, Mr. Deeb
MR. TRAVER-Next we move to our regular agenda and the first section of the agenda is Tabled Items.
The first item is Meghan & Daniel Frazier, Site Plan 81-2019.
TABLED ITEMS
SITE PLAN NO. 81-2019 SEQR TYPE: TYPE II. MEGHAN & DANIEL FRAZIER. AGENT(S):
HUTCHINS ENGINEERING. OWNER(S): SAME AS APPLICANT. ZONING: WR.
LOCATION: 12 SHORE ACRES ROAD. APPLICANT PROPOSES A NEW 4,915 SQ. FT.
FOOTPRINT OF A 14,240 SQ. FT. FLOOR AREA SINGLE FAMILY HOME. PROJECT INCLUDES
SITE WORK FOR A 500 SQ. FT. BUNKHOUSE AND A 360 SQ. FT. PORTE-COCHERE.
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, NEW FLOOR AREA AND
SHORELINE BUFFER PLANTINGS SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND
APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE: AST-580-2019 DOCK, DEMO 532-2017. WARREN CO.
REFERRAL: DECEMBER 2019. SITE INFORMATION: LGPC, APA, CEA. LOT SIZE: 2.84
ACRES. TAX MAP NO. 227.17-1-11. SECTION: 179-3-040.
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MICHAEL O’CONNOR, LUCAS DOBIE & JUSTIN WINTERS, REP. APPLICANT, PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-Laura?
MRS. MOORE-So this applicant proposes a new 4,915 square foot footprint, which is a 14,240 square foot
floor area single family home. This includes a 500 square foot bunkhouse and a 360 square foot porte-
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cochere. The porte-cochere was approved as a second garage on December 18 of 2019, and the new
revisions to this project are, the plans indicate the septic field to be located at the front of the property near
Cleverdale Road. The plan shows a driveway for the new home and a driveway area to allow access for
an adjoining neighbor to access a building on the neighbor’s property. The sport court has been relocated
to be installed more in the center of the front yard area. The plans for the rear of the home include patio,
pool and spa areas –water features, also a garden area then the shoreline area of the home includes walking
paths, retaining walls and a beach area. And noting the bunkhouse, the kitchen effects have been removed
so it is now considered just a bunkhouse.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. Is the applicant represented? Welcome back.
MR. O'CONNOR-Yes. Thank you. I’m Michael O’Connor from Little, O’Connor & Borie. I represent
the applicants who are sitting here with me, Dan and Meghan Frazier. We’ve been here I think before
when we talked about the second garage. Since then one other thing that we did that Laura didn’t note
was we eliminated the gazebo as a freestanding accessory building and basically put that square footage
into the addition to the existing porch, and Craig has approved it as part of the porch, not as a freestanding
accessory building.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
MR. O’CONNOR-We worked with the team trying to answer questions that have been given to us by one
of the neighbors. The sport court was set at the setback line of 25 feet and we have moved it now so that
it is 75 feet. So it’s three times what has been required. We also have worked out an agreement as to a
driveway that the adjoining neighbor can use for access to their property. We basically are going to do a
boundary line agreement, and a boundary line adjustment which we probably will have to come back to
you for or do it as part of this thing. Basically we’re giving up a strip of land 20 feet in width. Some of it’s
a little bit wider, to accommodate the driveway as it’s being built, it needs to have support because it’s
going to be higher than the existing ground level because of the bank with that support may make this
wider. I think the math shows it 40 feet wide at the road and then going back to a 20 foot width.
MR. TRAVER-That’s part of the right of way road?
MR. O'CONNOR-We actually are going to convey the underlying land of the new driveway to the
adjoining neighbor. They will actually own that. It won’t be a right of way. They will own it in fee. So
we’ve tried to accommodate what we thought were concerns that were being raised . We are doing a lot
of planting. I think you noticed that before. At one time or another I think at that time we had 10 trees,
50 shrubs and 300 perennial plants. I asked the question as a layman, do we really need that many plants
or should we thin them out a little bit. We’re following what was the regulations saying so many plants
on so many square feet. But in truth I was told that that may be overkill. It may not be the most healthy
thing to help the plants survive. I’ll leave that, ask permission to leave that to the landscapers to plant
substantially that number of plants, but in a manner that they will survive.
MR. TRAVER-I would think if there was concern about overcrowding in terms of meeting the buffer
requirement it might be species related. So it could be that the species that you’re thinking of planting in
that density, that density might be too great for the species you have in mind, but perhaps the landscaper
would be able to come up with a species that would meet the shoreline requirements without
overcrowding.
MR. O'CONNOR-Okay. It’s as much away from the shoreline as it is within the shoreline, the concern.
You’ve just got to take a look at the planting. The landscaper is here. Maybe he’ll address that during his,
you can have that conversation with him.
MR. TRAVER-I can’t even keep my office plant alive. So I just know that there are some issues with
density and that might be addressed in terms of species selection, but that’s fine.
MR. O'CONNOR-So basically I think we’re here to answer any questions that you have. We did re-submit
the engineering comments. I don’t have a final signoff for that. It was just submitted this past Monday
or a week ago. We just haven’t gotten the comments back. I did get a letter from Craig Brown talking
about the porch we talked about and the adjustments that we made to the bunkhouse and he was satisfied
and we did get a letter from DEC as to habitat and there’s no infringement upon habitat by the project as
you have it, and we already had a letter from SHPO that there’s nothing historical on the site. I don’t know
if that is in the file or not, but if you don’t I have copies that I can give you.
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MR. TRAVER-Laura, do you have those letters?
MRS. MOORE-We have those letters from Craig.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you.
MR. O'CONNOR-Do you have the Jeff Hayden letter from DEC?
MRS. MOORE-I don’t recall that one.
MR. O'CONNOR-I’ll give you one of those. I’ve got a couple of those. Parks and Rec, I had a couple of
those letters. I think these two items were maybe mentioned in the engineering report.
MRS. MOORE-Correct.
MR. O'CONNOR-And that’s basically what I would do as far as the presentation. There are people from
the landscaping firm here and people from the architectural firm here to answer whatever questions you
might have.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. Questions, comments from members of the Board? We did look at
this prior, obviously, to them going to the ZBA. Laura, in terms of process, we are awaiting, it sounds as
though the applicant is awaiting updated information from the engineer.
MRS. MOORE-Correct. So there’s only a couple of comments, and I think Lucas can go over that. I don’t
anticipate anything that is outstanding. Just addressing those few comments.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you.
MR. HUNSINGER-So in the Staff Notes it said that we had the lighting plan for the Sport Court, and I
didn’t see that in the submission.
MRS. MOORE-I don’t know if there was a lighting per se. There were lighting fixtures I thought that was
included.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes, I didn’t even see those.
MR. O'CONNOR-Any lighting that we had would be downcast fixtures.
MR. HUNSINGER-On the Staff Notes it says that site lighting has been provided for the Sport Court.
MR. TRAVER-So that being the case, Laura, would you have reviewed that? If you can see if it’s in your
file.
MRS. MOORE-I’m just looking to see if it was in a previous file.
MR. O'CONNOR-The two lights shine right on the centerline of this court.
MR. TRAVER-If you’d like to give us your comment. If you could come up and give us your name for the
record and speak into the microphone, please.
MR. WINTERS-Sure. Justin Winters with Studio A. The lighting for the Court is directly located on the
centerline on the house side, on the lakeside. So it’s casting outward from the lake, from the front yard.
It’s a complete dark sky compliant light that shines directly down onto the Court. There’ll be no residual
light pollution from this particular fixture.
MR. TRAVER-And have you supplied the fixture schematics to the Town for the record? You say it’s dark
sky compliant. Typically with these type of fixtures, with any type of fixture, there is a cut sheet. Do you
have that?
MR. WINTERS-We don’t have that with us at present. I can have that provided.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Yes if you can supply that to the Town that would be helpful.
MR. WINTERS-Okay.
MR. TRAVER-Thank you.
MR. WINTERS-I don’t know the lumens offhand. I think it’s one foot candle per.
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MR. O'CONNOR-Any other questions?
MR. SHAFER-I have a question. Will this be used exclusively as a single family home or will there be
supplemental through Air BNB or whatever?
MEGHAN FRAZIER
MRS. FRAZIER-No. I grew up four houses down from there and we plan on turning that into our family
home. We have six children.
MR. SHAFER-So it’ll be exclusively a single family home.
MRS. FRAZIER-Right. Just as they grow older.
MR. SHAFER-I have some questions on the wastewater system.
MR. O'CONNOR-Lucas. Lucas Dobie is with Hutchins Engineering. They did the engineering for the
site.
MR. DOBIE-Yes, for the record, again, Lucas Dobie of Hutchins. Yes, sir, Mr. Shafer. What can I address
for you?
MR. SHAFER-It’s a Puraflo system. Tell me a little bit about it. Is that in the DOH guideline manual for
the design of a wastewater treatment system?
MR. DOBIE-That is accepted by DOH, yes, as an enhanced treatment. It’s a passive system. I personally
think it’s the most reliable, highest quality outside of an aerobic unit. We’ve done several of them in the
area around the lake. Our southerly neighbor has one. It was put in a year or two ago, and it’s a nice pod,
an eight pod system where you get a tremendous amount of treatment from the pods with the peat filters
in them prior to discharge to a standard stone bed. We could do just a traditional stone bed system. We
thought in this application that it makes sense to have this real nice enhanced treatment system.
MR. SHAFER-You answered my next question about whether you had done one before.
MR. DOBIE-Yes. Our oldest one is about 15 years and it’s been super reliable on a very difficult site.
MR. SHAFER-The design manual talks about winterizing the tanks. I assume that will be done properly.
MR. DOBIE-It will be if it’s shut down for the winter. I imagine this is going to be a year round use for
the most part. So it’s going to stay right in operation.
MR. SHAFER-The manual also talks about having a maintenance agreement or a maintenance document.
Is there such a thing for Puraflo that the owners should have with them or understand?
MR. DOBIE-I believe that’s an agreement with the distributor which is Emmons Pump out of Albany.
They’re a very good company. Because there is a sampling port provision on these to test the effluent on
an annual basis. So that would be an agreement with the owner.
MR. SHAFER-The document also talks about replacing the materials every 15 years.
MR. DOBIE-That’s my understanding.
MR. SHAFER-Has that been communicated to the client?
MR. DOBIE-It will be certainly. Yes, sir.
MR. SHAFER-That’s all I had, Mr. Chairman.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. Anybody else? We do have a public hearing on this application. Is
there anyone in the audience that wanted to address the Planning Board? The public hearing is actually
still open from a previous discussion. Yes, I think I see a hand. Yes, sir. If you would give the table up
for public comment.
PUBLIC HEARING OPEN
JIM MEYER
MR. MEYER-Well for the record, Jim Meyer, and my wife Jody is in the audience. We own and reside in
the home immediately south of the property under discussion. Jody and I feel the plans presented
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represent responsible development of one of the larger lots on the lake. It appears to me that the plans
meet or exceed every zoning requirement except a covered drive which has already been, I guess, approved
by the Zoning Board. So the residence and the bunkhouse are setback farther than required and farther
than most homes on the lake and certainly most if not all of those on Cleverdale. As it’s designed the
project will have minimal impact on our view of the lake from our principle living area. We do spend a
fair amount of time enjoying the backyard or I call it a backyard, the road side of our home, whether we’re
working on our small garden or splitting firewood or gathering sap and making maple syrup in the
springtime. With the driveway moved to the south side of the property we see a little more traffic than
we’ve gotten used to but the driveway meets all codes and is, after all, in the back of the house, and that
doesn’t really impact us adversely in any way. I see that they moved the Sport Court to the center of the
lot from the north side, which is different than originally proposed to the Zoning Board, but we have no
problem with that. It seems fair enough. So in the end Jody and I have no issues with this plan as proposed
and we look forward to seeing it come in.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you very much.
MR. MEYER-Thank you.
MR. TRAVER-Is there anyone else that wanted to comment on this application? Do we have any written
comments, Laura?
MRS. MOORE-I don’t have any written comments.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Then I’m going to close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR. TRAVER-This is a Type II SEQR. Is there any other discussion or questions from members of the
Board?
MR. MAGOWAN-The only thing I’d like to say is it was really well done and thought out, everything. I
mean I have to say I really enjoyed going over the plans and knowing the property from the previous owners
years ago you really did a nice job, and thank you. The enhanced system on the septic, it’s a little bit more
work but I think in the long run, and I forgot, six kids. Congratulations on such a nice project.
MR. TRAVER-All right. Anyone else? Let’s see. We have some, I’m thinking in terms of a motion. We
do have, as mentioned, some outstanding engineering, but that’s already, signoff is a requirement.
MR. O'CONNOR-Do you want to hear from Mr. Dobie on that, on the engineering, the outstanding
engineering? There’s a few items. They’re not big items.
MR. TRAVER-Sure. Yes, that would be fine.
MR. DOBIE-Yes, we did re-submit for seven comments to Chazen last Monday and with the re-design,
with the Sport Court move, we totally re-worked the northerly portion of the site. So we really took a big
swing at updating everything and getting everything in line. So we’re actually quite pleased to only have
seven comments and they’re generally very light comments. So I’m comfortable that if we’re not there on
this round we’re one or two away. We did receive our endangered species signoff was one of the
outstanding comments as well. We’re very comfortable with the design that we’re going to get there very
shortly. Thank you.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. All right. Thank you. Do Board members feel comfortable moving forward?
MRS. MOORE-I’m sorry, Mr. Chairman. Did you have any questions about landscaping? The applicant
brought up shoreline plantings and things like that.
MR. TRAVER-Right.
MRS. MOORE-Did you have any comments?
MR. TRAVER-Well, the Code, I see in the Staff Notes the Code is fairly clear. Did you want to comment
on that? There was a concern about the density of the, one of the plant species I think.
MR. WINTERS-Well, the shoreline requirement has a specific formula for plants to fall within that area
and we’ve found, and there is a very prescriptive list of plants provided, and so we’ve stayed within that
species requirement and the density of the planting at the formula rate is such that I’m concerned about
the health of the plants going forward. It’s going to have an adverse impact. They’re going to be too close
together so once they get to a certain size there will be some need to thin it out. Just having worked in the
industry for over 20 years now, it’s a little bit too dense for my comfort zone. We’ve provided two planting
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plans in the presentation. One is a compliant plan and then one is our recommended layout. I think you’ll
find, if you look at both of the plans, there is just a slightly reduced quantity of the plants, but we still I
think are living within the spirit of the buffer requirement.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you for that. I myself have not heard, with the compliant plantings that have
been happening around the lake, an issue with specific density. So I guess my sense would be to be
compliant, but I’ll ask if other members of the Board have comments or concerns about the planting
requirements and what is proposed or the density that’s been raised. Laura, have you heard any anecdotes.
MRS. MOORE-No. In the past since this has started we’ve only, I would say only a handful have actually
come forward and presented a plan that has been considered all built according to spec. In most cases
both Boards have seen projects where the applicant has described the existing situation and a few
additional plantings. So in this case where the applicant has pointed out that there may be some density
issues, versus an opportunity to look at the recommended plan, I don’t have a preference for either one, but
this is not my field of expertise at all. So the Board could actually evaluate whether the recommended one
would be just as sufficient as the one that’s required.
MR. TRAVER-Yes, and I think I earlier disclosed it’s certainly not my area of expertise either, but that
being the case, I would tend to want to go with the compliant plan.
MR. O’CONNOR-What sheets are you talking?
MR. WINTERS-The sheets that I’m referring to, they’re numbered L3.10 and that reflects the compliant
plan, and we also have, if you look at the bottom of that sheet, we have the total quantity of plants listed
at the bottom. It’s at the bar chart, 35 foot buffer, shoreline buffer requirement all the way at the bottom
and you can see the total quantity listed out, 11 trees, 160 shrubs and 320 perennials. And I just want to
point out, as far as species selections go, we did try to provide, I think the spirit of the requirement is
looking to have something that’s not a mono culture. It’s a diverse botanical environment., So we’ve
certainly tried to mix it up, and if you refer to Sheet L3.11, that’s our recommended plan. We’ve only
reduced the quantity a slight amount but I think this gives you a better chance of long term maintenance ,
survival rate on the plants, and from there we’ve only reduced it by one tree. So 10 trees. We’ve reduced
it to 80 shrubs total and then about 300 perennials total. So it’s not, we’re not slashing it say by half or
anything like that.
MR. TRAVER-Right, understood.
MR. VALENTINE-Density or type?
MR. WINTERS-I think it’s density. Certainly type, we wanted to do something that had some, like I said,
some diversity amongst the species. So in trying to find species that have different sizes, different heights,
different widths, so it is a very rich environment which I think is what the goal is, and they all fall within
the required plant list, but it’s certainly, in doing so it does create a very dense environment if you’re
sticking with the prescribed formula.
MR. TRAVER-Understood.
MR. VALENTINE-Will this be your weekend hobby? I’m looking at this and I’m looking at just a standard
Joe Blow house of my own, and I don’t get, you know, summer weekends and stuff, they just fly right by
me. I don’t have time for, I’m amazed at it.
DANIEL FRAZIER
MR. FRAZIER-That’s where the six kids come in handy.
MR. VALENTINE-Well good . I could see a concern for density just looking at it. There’s a formula, but
I think the only thing you can base it upon, has there been a past history where this formulation has been
a problem.
MR. TRAVER-Yes, and I’m not aware of that, but as Laura pointed out our history isn’t complete. I mean
we haven’t see a lot of new, you know, I mean usually as she said there’s usually existing , some existing
vegetation there and for the most part it’s modified.
MR. VALENTINE-Well there’s a lot of grading on this site. So you don’t have any choice but to plant new
stuff.
MR. TRAVER-Right, and I don’t know, either, what information was included in the development of the
guideline or the code. I mean I would think that they would have someone that knows more than I about
plants to come up with a specific formula. So my sense, again, is, all things being equal, I would say go
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with something that’s compliant, but what do members of the Board feel, that we should go with an
alternate? Yes?
MR. MAGOWAN-Being a perennial guy, and my wife always reminds me, you know, it’s too much, but at
the time when you put them in they’re all small, and then when they start to take off, it is, it becomes too
much. And then, you know, the next thing you know you’re taking and replacing . That’s a lot, and with
the front. So I don’t have a problem with the recommendation. If he’s saying it’s too much, I agree with
him, because I’m constantly splitting my perennials because, you know, I’ve just overcrowded them, and
they do, they don’t work well.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
MR. HUNSINGER-Well the biggest difference between the recommended and the compliant plant is the
number of shrubs. If you’re going from 320 to 300 perennials, that’s not that much of a reduction.
MR. MAGOWAN-Well the shrubs are the same thing, I mean the perennials and the shrubs. I’m talking
all planting.
MR. WINTERS-Shrubs are generally woody plants.
MR. HUNSINGER-And it looks like most of them are up closer to the lake.
MR. WINTERS-Correct. So it is about getting that close to the lake itself, but I think there’s challenges
there also as well with the shoreline a that’s in place there already. So it’ll be very, it’ll be a lot more hand
work in getting planting in there certainly.
MR. TRAVER-So, Chris, is it your sense that you could accept the recommendation?
MR. HUNSINGER-No, I was just pointing out where the significant difference was. It’s mostly in the
shrubs. One tree and 20 out of 300 perennials.
MR. DIXON-Is there a particular species that you’re going for?
MR. WINTERS-No, we’ve tried to disseminate it amongst the collection of shrubs that we’re proposing,
and if the desire is to have a little bit more balance, we could certainly look at the plan and achieve more
balance in the mix if we could still move towards a recommended planting plan. We certainly wouldn’t
mind taking a swing at that.
MR. TRAVER-So would you be comfortable going with the recommendation of the landscaper?
MR. DIXON-The 10 trees, 80s shrubs and 300 perennials?
MR. TRAVER-Yes, that’s the alternate.
MR. DIXON-I would be.
MR. TRAVER-John?
MR. SHAFER-Yes.
MR. TRAVER-And it sounds like you would be, Chris. Okay. Well I can support that.
MR. DIXON-Do we want that spelled out at 10 trees, 80 shrubs and 300 perennials?
MR. TRAVER-Yes, we probably should be specific.
MRS. MOORE-You can just use the plan sheet number.
MR. TRAVER-So landscape 3.11 to be used for the landscaping. Okay. Anything else? All right. Then
I think we’ll be ready for a motion shortly.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SP # 81-2019 MEGHAN & DANIEL FRAZIER
The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board: Applicant proposes a new 4,915 sq. ft.
footprint of a 14,240 sq. ft. floor area single family home. Project includes site work for a 500 sq. ft.
bunkhouse, 315 sq. ft. gazebo, and 360 sq. ft. porte-cochere. Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040 of the Zoning
Ordinance, new floor area and shoreline buffer plantings shall be subject to Planning Board review and
approval.
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Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-080, the Planning
Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code;
As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to the Warren
County Planning Department for its recommendation;
The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 12/19/2019 and continued the
public hearing to 02/18/2020, when it was closed,
The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all comments
made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 02/18/2020;
The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and
standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval,
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN 81-2019 MEGHAN & DANIEL FRAZIER; Introduced by
Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption.
According to the draft resolution prepared by Staff with the following:
1) Waivers requested granted; h. signage, n traffic, o. commercial alterations/ construction details, r.
construction/demolition disposal s. snow removal.
2. Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution.
a) The limits of clearing will constitute a no-cut buffer zone, orange construction fencing shall
be installed around these areas and field verified by Community Development staff;
b) If applicable, the Sanitary Sewer connection plan must be submitted to the Wastewater
Department for its review, approval, permitting and inspection;
c) If curb cuts are being added or changed a driveway permit is required. A building permit will not
be issued until the approved driveway permit has been provided to the Planning Office;
d) If application was referred to engineering then Engineering sign-off required prior to signature of
Zoning Administrator of the approved plans;
e) Final approved plans should have dimensions and setbacks noted on the site plan/survey, floor
plans and elevation for the existing rooms and proposed rooms in the building and site
improvements;-
f) If required, the applicant must submit a copy of the following to the Town:
a. The project NOI (Notice of Intent) for coverage under the current "NYSDEC SPDES
General Permit from Construction Activity" prior to the start of any site work.
b. The project NOT (Notice of Termination) upon completion of the project;
c. The applicant must maintain on their project site, for review by staff:
i. The approved final plans that have been stamped by the Town Zoning
Administrator. These plans must include the project SWPPP (Storm Water
Pollution Prevention Plan) when such a plan was prepared and approved;
ii. The project NOI and proof of coverage under the current NYSDEC SPDES General
Permit, or an individual SPDES permit issued for the project if required.
g) Final approved plans, in compliance with the Site Plan, must be submitted to the Community
Development Department before any further review by the Zoning Administrator or Building and
Codes personnel;
h) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of Building Permit
and/or the beginning of any site work;
i) Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on compliance
with this and all other conditions of this resolution;
j) As-built plans to certify that the site plan is developed according to the approved plans to be
provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy.
k) This resolution is to be placed in its entirety on the final plans.
l) The landscape drawing L-3.11 will be used for the landscape plan.
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Motion seconded by Brad Magowan. Duly adopted this 18 day of February, 2020 by the following vote:
MR. O'CONNOR-Mr. Chairman, for the purpose of the record, in my conversations with the neighbor, I
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sent the neighbor an e-mail on February 12 at 4:15 p.m. and it specified the specifications of the driveway
that the Fraziers are going to construct. So I would want that to be part of the record, and I’ll give Laura
a copy of it. I didn’t copy it to her beforehand. It spelled out the width of the roadway, the width of the
pavement and the depth of the pavement.
MR. TRAVER-So it’s the neighbor’s property.
MR. O'CONNOR-It is presently our property.
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MRS. MOORE-Right. So it is to be, in our mind right now it’s considered part of the entire project. at a
later date the applicant’s doing a lot line adjustment that has nothing to do with this project, but right now
as part of the project it exists on this property.
MR. TRAVER-Right.
MRS. MOORE-At a later date it’ll be moved over. If the applicant wishes to enter that information about
the road depth and type of road material, that can be entered as part of the record for the applicant to
submit. I don’t necessarily think it needs to be part of the resolution.
MR. O'CONNOR-I told the neighbor I would.
MR. TRAVER-All right, and so it is. It’s part of the record.
MR. HUNSINGER-It’s shown on the Site Plan.
MR. TRAVER-Yes.
MR. VALENTINE-So you said there’ll be a lot line adjustment later. Won’t that come up at that time?
MRS. MOORE-No, because if both lots remain at the correct acreage, it does not necessarily come back
before this Board.
MR. O'CONNOR-I think it’s of the dimension that Craig can approve of it as an administrative.
MR. VALENTINE-It’s an administrative.
MRS. MOORE-Yes.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. All right. So we’re clear on that. Thank you, Laura. And thank you, Mike. Any
other comments on the motion? Maria, can we have the vote, please.
AYES: Mr. Shafer, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Valentine, Mr. Dixon, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: Ms. White, Mr. Deeb
MR. TRAVER-All right. You’re all set.
MR. O'CONNOR-We thank you.
MR. TRAVER-Next on our agenda is APEX Capital, LLC, which I mentioned earlier is going to be tabled
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from tonight until a week from tonight on the 25. We are awaiting some additional information.
SITE PLAN NO. 53-2019 SEQR TYPE: UNLISTED. APEX CAPITAL, LLC. AGENT(S): STUDIO
A LANDSCAPE ARCH. DPC. OWNER(S): SAME AS APPLICANT. ZONING: RC/MDR.
LOCATION: 59 WEST MT. ROAD (MAIN); 47 & 53 WEST MT. RD. (PARKING). (SEQR)
APPLICANT PROPOSES EXPANSION OF THE WEST MOUNTAIN SKI AREA PARKING LOT,
CONSTRUCTION OF A ZIP LINE ATTRACTION, APPROVAL OF AN EXISTING MOUNTAIN
BIKING VENUE AND OTHER ASSOCIATED PROJECTS. PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES A TOWN
BOARD REFERRAL FOR A PETITION FOR ZONE CHANGE PARCELS 315.5-1-3.2 AND 315.5-1-2
FROM MODERATE DENSITY TO RECREATION COMMERCIAL. THE PARCELS ARE TO BE
USED FOR OVERFLOW PARKING. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-15-040 TOWN BOARD
MAY REFER PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR
RECOMMENDATION, AND PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040 OF THE ZONING
ORDINANCE, EXPANSION OF A RECREATION CENTER SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING
BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. PLANNING BOARD TO REVIEW SEQR. CROSS
REFERENCE: AV 92-2002 CREATE 2 NONCONFORMING LOTS, SP 22-2008 ADDITIONS &
DECK, SP 34-2011 ALPINE SLIDE & ZIP FLYER, SP 61-2011 SHED ADDITION; SP 60-2018; PZ 584-
2019 RE-ZONING. WARREN CO. REFERRAL: SEPTEMBER 2019. LOT SIZE: 382.34. TAX
MAP NO. 307.-1-29, 315.5-1-3.2 315.5-1-2. SECTION: 179-3-040.
MR. TRAVER-And I think we can make a simple tabling motion. We don’t have a draft but we can kind
of wing it.
RESOLUTION TABLING SP # 53-2019 APEX CAPITAL, LLC
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MOTION TO TABLE SITE PLAN NO. 53-2019 APEX CAPITAL, LLC, Introduced by Michael Dixon
who moved for its adoption,
Tabled to the February 25th, 2020 Planning Board meeting.
Motion seconded by Brad Magowan. Duly adopted this 18th day of February, 2020, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Valentine, Mr. Dixon, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: Ms. White, Mr. Deeb
MR. TRAVER-All right, and next we move to the next section of our agenda, which is under Planning
Board recommendations to the ZBA, and the first item is Thomas Heinzelman, Site Plan 8-2020.
PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS:
SITE PLAN NO. 8-2020 SEQR TYPE: TYPE II. THOMAS HEINZELMAN. AGENT(S):
HUTCHINS ENGINEERING. OWNER(S): SAME AS APPLICANT. ZONING: WR.
LOCATION: 52 REARDON ROAD. APPLICANT PROPOSES TO REMOVE AN EXISTING 740
SQ. FT. HOME AND 715 SQ. FT. PORCHES FOR CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW HOME – 1,510 SQ.
FT. FOOTPRINT AND 2,604 SQ. FT. FLOOR AREA. SITE WORK INCLUDES GRADING, NEW
WELL AND NEW SEPTIC (SEPTIC ON ADJOINING PROPERTY). PROJECT PROPOSES
ADDITIONAL SHORELINE PLANTING AREA. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040 OF THE
ZONING ORDINANCE, CONSTRUCTION IN A CEA SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING
BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. VARIANCE: RELIEF IS SOUGHT FOR PERMEABILITY
AND SETBACKS. PLANNING BOARD SHALL PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. CROSS REFERENCE: AV 26-2004 DECK. WARREN CO.
REFERRAL: N/A SITE INFORMATION: GLEN LAKE. LOT SIZE: .30 ACRE. TAX MAP NO.
289.7-1-19. SECTION: 179-3-040.
LUCAS DOBIE & CURT DYBAS, REPRESENTING APPLICANT, PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-Laura?
MRS. MOORE-The applicant proposes to remove the existing 740 square foot home and 715 square feet of
porches for the construction of a new home which is 1,510 square feet footprint and 2,604 square feet of
floor area. The relief that they’re requesting from the Zoning Board is permeability for the lot and then
setbacks for the shoreline.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. Good evening.
MR. DOBIE-Good evening, again, Board. For the record, Lucas Dobie with Hutchins Engineering. At the
table with us is Curt Dybas our architect on the project and Thomas Heinzelman, the landowner who’s
project is pretty near and dear to my heart, quite frankly, as he was the Athletic Director when I was in
high school in Hudson Falls. We’ve known each other for 25 years and it’s kind of come full circle and
we’re almost neighbors here.. It’s a stone’s throw from where I live. I’ve been working on and off with
this throughout the fall fine tuning the design and I’m very happy with an efficient house design that meets
the floor area ratio and meets our sides and front setback. Where we’re asking for relief is from the
shoreline to the deck which Mr. Heinzelman received a variance in 2004 to construct the deck that is there
currently at 38 feet. So our logic was to hold to that 38 feet with our new deck and bring the house to the
compliant 50 feet. So he would still have a nice lakeside deck for his family and patio below and a one car
garage, and again, we’re compliant with the zoning aside from the permeability which I’m sure as you’ve
seen is very common around Glen Lake with these smaller lots to not be able to meet the 75% green space.
We’re only increasing the site coverage by 465 square feet. So we’re comfortable that it’s not an
extravagant or unreasonable proposal by any means. Providing a new well down by the shore where right
now he has a dug well in the driveway approximately 30 to 40 feet from a cess pool. So those two features
are, bathing only in the current situation. Those two are going away with a new drilled well down by the
shore and a new compliant absorption bed on the southerly parcel which Mr. Heinzelman is a partner in
as well. They’re all agreeable. Everybody’s working together on the project is my understanding and
we’re providing stormwater mitigation as well because there’s a fair amount of water that comes down
their driveway and for the most part it goes right to the lake. We’re very, again, comfortable with the
design. It’s a nice wide lot. At the shore it’s 59 foot of frontage. So we’ll have a little room to work here
which is nice. We’re here to answer any questions and ask for your zoning recommendation. Thank you.
MR. TRAVER-Thank you. So the deck that’s being proposed does require a variance, but there is a prior
deck that was essentially the same setback and did receive a variance at some point in the past.
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MR. DOBIE-That’s correct, Mr. Chairman. Yes.
MR. TRAVER-Questions, comments from members of the Planning Board?
MR. DIXON-You mentioned the lot to the south that’s a shared lot. Is there any modifications to that at
all or it’s just standing right on the build site?
MR. DOBIE-There’s no changes as far as surface coverages or boundary line adjustment or anything like
that, sir. They will convey an easement, the three partners, an easement for the installation of the septic
to this lot which we’ve done on several other ones around Glen Lake.
MR. SHAFER-So it will be a formal easement.
MR. DOBIE-It will be. It will not be a true boundary line adjustment.
MR. SHAFER-I noticed you used one to five minutes per inch in the septic design, but I didn’t see any perc
test date on the plans. Did I miss that?
MR. DOBIE-No, you didn’t miss it. That’s because of our winter conditions we didn’t get it done in the
fall. We’ve done, frankly, probably 10 or 15 within a quarter mile of here so we know our soils. It’s the
Glen Lake cobbly sand where you have more cobble than sand.
MR. SHAFER-So you’re comfortable with one to five?
MR. DOBIE-I’m very comfortable with that. That’s frankly why a lot of these old cess pools are still
working after 50 years because of the course soils. It just flows right down through.
MR. TRAVER-So tonight we’re here for the permeability and setbacks. Are there any other questions or
comments from the Planning Board in terms of a referral to the ZBA?
MR. HUNSINGER-What’s interesting is they’re here for a variance on permeability and it’s less permeable
than the existing.
MR. TRAVER-Yes.
MR. HUNSINGER-So I certainly don’t have any issues with that.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. All right. Well if there are no concerns to be raised in our referral, then we can go
ahead with our draft resolution.
RESOLUTION RE: ZBA RECOMMENDATION RE: AV # 5-2010 THOMAS HEINZELMAN
The applicant has submitted an application for the following: Applicant proposes to remove an existing
home 740 sq. ft. home and 715 sq. ft. porches for construction of a new home - 1,510 sq. ft. footprint and
2,604 sq. ft. floor area. Site work includes grading, new well and new septic (septic on adjoining property).
Project proposes additional shoreline planting area. Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040 of the Zoning
Ordinance, construction in a CEA shall be subject to Planning Board review and approval. Variance:
Relief is sought for permeability and setbacks. Planning Board shall provide a recommendation to the
Zoning Board of Appeals.
The Town of Queensbury Zoning Ordinance, per Section 179-9-070 J 2 b. requires the Planning Board to
provide a written recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals for projects that require both Zoning
Board of Appeals & Planning Board approval;
The Planning Board has briefly reviewed and discussed this application, the relief request in the variance
application as well as the potential impacts of this project on the neighborhood and surrounding
community, and found that:
MOTION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON BEHALF OF THE PLANNING BOARD TO THE
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FOR AREA VARIANCE NO. 5-2020 THOMAS HEINZELMAN.
Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved its adoption, and
a) The Planning Board, based on a limited review, has not identified any significant adverse impacts
that cannot be mitigated with current project proposal.
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Motion seconded by Brad Magowan. Duly adopted this 18 day of February, 2020 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Magowan, Mr. Valentine, Mr. Dixon, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Traver
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NOES: NONE
ABSENT: Ms. White, Mr. Deeb
MR. TRAVER-You’re off to the ZBA.
MR. DOBIE-Thank you, Board.
MR. TRAVER-So the next application also under ZBA referrals is Sam Bhatti, Site Plan 5-2020.
SITE PLAN NO. 5-2020 SEQR TYPE: TYPE II. AFTAB (SAM) BHATTI. OWNER(S): SAME
AS APPLICANT. ZONING: CI. LOCATION: 547 AVIATION ROAD. APPLICANT PROPOSES
TO UPDATE AN EXISTING “QUALITY INN” TO ENCLOSE AN EXISTING 288 SQ. FT. PORCH
TO CREATE A SUNROOM OFF OF NATATORIUM (ENCLOSED POOL). ALSO IS A NEW 240
SQ. FT. COVERED PORCH TO REAR OF THE BUILDING FOR GUESTS. THE EXISTING SITE
HAS TWO LODGING ESTABLISHMENTS THAT SHARE PARKING AND ACCESS TO
AVIATION ROAD. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-040 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE
COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND
APPROVAL. VARIANCE: RELIEF IS SOUGHT FOR SETBACK AND FAR. PLANNING BOARD
SHALL PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. CROSS
REFERENCE: SP 20-2003, AV 85-2002, AV 55-2002 HOTEL; SP 1-2011, AV 3-2011 CANOPY; SP
82-2019, MANY OTHERS WARREN CO. REFERRAL: FEBRUARY 2020. SITE INFORMATION:
TRAVEL CORRIDOR OVERLAY. LOT SIZE: 2.19 ACRES. TAX MAP NO. 302.5-1-51. SECTION:
179-3-040.
SAM BHATTI, PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-Laura?
MRS. MOORE-The applicant proposes to add additions to the Quality Inn. One addition is a 288 square
foot porch which is to create a sunroom off the existing enclosed swimming pool, and then the other
addition is a 240 square foot covered porch to the rear of the building for the guests. Relief is requested
for setbacks and then also for floor area.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Thank you. Good evening. Tell us about your project.
MR. BHATTI-Behind the pool, there’s a color picture there, there’s an existing deck there. So I’m just
covering it up to make the pool area, so people are sitting there covered and make a sunroom there so the
sun comes in.
MR. TRAVER-Okay.
MR. BHATTI-The backside of the building I’m proposing a 12 by 20 deck. People mostly smoke outside
in the back and they don’t have anything there. So I put a table there and I thought it was a good idea to
build a deck there, a covered deck so they can smoke. That’s like where the smoking area is, because the
hotel is non-smoking and they’re going to smoke in the front, so they come in the backside. So I’m
proposing that one, and a 12 by 20 deck covered to build there.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. And what we’re looking at this evening is the setback and the floor area ratio for
the variance that they’re seeking. Questions, comments from members of the Board?
MR. DIXON-Specific to the variance I don’t have questions , but just a note, when I was looking at the
plans, it looks like a very flat roof that’s going to be going on there. I know we don’t necessarily have to
talk about that tonight, but.
MR. BHATTI-It’s going to be pitched.
MR. MAGOWAN-A shed roof. They call it a shed roof.
MR. TRAVER-A little bit of a pitch. Any other questions regarding the variance request from members
of the Board? Any concerns to pass along to the ZBA?
MR. SHAFER-Not on the variance, Mr. Chairman, but, Sam, it looks like you’re going to use the concrete
footings for the deck and just build up?
MR. BHATTI-This one is the pool. This is one deck which is already existing there. I’m covering and
making a porch there, a covered porch.
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MR. SHAFER-You’re going to cover this.
MR. BHATTI-But the back of the building, this one will have a concrete.
MR. SHAFER-My question has to do with the footings under the deck. I see concrete sonotubes. Will
you be using the same ones for the addition?
MR. BHATTI-Yes.
MR. SHAFER-It doesn’t look, from the drawings, like they go below the frost line. Do they go below the
frost line? There were no dimensions on the drawings.
MR. BHATTI-Gary designed everything.
MR. SHAFER-I’m sorry, what did he tell you?
MR. BHATTI-He told me he was going to go with the building truss and also with the existing footage.
MR. SHAFER-So he must have confirmed that they go below the frost line, the concrete pillars?
MR. BHATTI-Yes.
MR. SHAFER-Because they should.
MR. BHATTI-Yes, they are. That’s what he told me and that’s what I have.
MR. TRAVER-All right. Any other variance concerns? All right. I guess we’re ready for a motion.
RESOLUTION RE: ZBA RECOMMENDATION RE: AV # 3-2020 AFTAB (SAM) BHATTI
The applicant has submitted an application for the following: Applicant proposes to update an existing
“Quality Inn” to enclose an existing 288 sq. ft. porch to create a sunroom off of natatorium (enclosed
swimming pool). Also is a new 240 sq. ft. covered porch to rear of the building for guests. The existing
site has two lodging establishments that share parking and access to Aviation Road. Pursuant to Chapter
179-3-040 of the Zoning Ordinance commercial construction shall be subject to Planning Board review and
approval. Variance: Relief is sought for setback and FAR. Planning Board shall provide a recommendation
to the Zoning Board of Appeals.
The Town of Queensbury Zoning Ordinance, per Section 179-9-070 J 2 b. requires the Planning Board to
provide a written recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals for projects that require both Zoning
Board of Appeals & Planning Board approval;
The Planning Board has briefly reviewed and discussed this application, the relief request in the variance
application as well as the potential impacts of this project on the neighborhood and surrounding
community, and found that:
MOTION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON BEHALF OF THE PLANNING BOARD TO THE
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FOR AREA VARIANCE NO. 3-2020 AFTAB BHATTI. Introduced
by Michael Dixon who moved its adoption, and
a) The Planning Board, based on a limited review, has not identified any significant adverse impacts
that cannot be mitigated with current project proposal.
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Motion seconded by Brad Magowan. Duly adopted this 18day of February, 2020 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Valentine, Mr. Dixon, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: Ms. White, Mr. Deeb
MR. TRAVER-You’re off to the ZBA.
MR. BHATTI-Thank you.
MR. TRAVER-Thank you. The next section of our agenda is under New Business, and the first
application under New Business is William Rudenko, Site Plan 7-2020.
NEW BUSINESS:
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SITE PLAN NO. 7-2020 SEQR TYPE: TYPE II. WILLIAM RUDENKO. OWNER(S): JAMES
VALASTRO. ZONING: NC. LOCATION: 982 STATE ROUTE 149. APPLICANT PROPOSES
TO MODIFY AN EXISTING 20’ X 20’ SEASONAL PRODUCE STAND TO A 30’ X 20’ SEASONAL
PRODUCE STAND TENT FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD STARTING WITH 2020. PRODUCE
STAND IS TO OPERATE SEASONALLY JUNE TO OCTOBER. PROJECT SITE CONTAINS AN
EXISTING RESTAURANT TO REMAIN WITH NO CHANGES. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-
3-040 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, PRODUCE STAND MODIFICATION SHALL BE SUBJECT
TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE: SP 60-2012
RESTAURANT; PZ 75-2016 PRODUCE STAND. WARREN CO. REFERRAL: FEBRUARY 2020.
LOT SIZE: 2.74 ACRES. TAX MAP NO. 279.-1-9. SECTION: 179-3-040.
WILLIAM RUDENKO, PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-Laura?
MRS. MOORE-The applicant proposes to modify the existing seasonal produce stand from a 20 by 20 tent
structure to a 30 by 20 tent structure and a new start to his five year clock, starting in 2020 to operate
between June and October. The applicant has obtained permission from the property owner to have his
produce stand.
MR. TRAVER-Good evening.
MR. RUDENKO-Good evening, Mr. Chairman, Board members. My name is William Rudenko and I am
a partner in Bull Hill Farm along with my wife and we have a prior approval from the Planning Board, Site
Plan approval, to run our produce stand with a 20 by 20 canopy, but we did want to increase it due to
mounting competition in the area. Other than that, we’ve been there four years. We’ve had great success
with the owner, the tourists who come through the area and all of the local residence, they frequent us
quite often. A lot of repeat business. No problems with ingress or egress from 149 or 9. Safe, but we just
want to come in one year earlier just so that we can upgrade our canopy to add a bigger product line and
bigger displays because we sell our produce so fast our tables look empty like this when it comes to selling
cucumbers and peaches sometimes. So with a little more table space our displays would be attractive and
appealing to those people who do pull off the road to trade with us I guess.
MR. TRAVER-Sure.
MR. RUDENKO-Any questions I can answer, concerns?
MR. VALENTINE-Will the tent stay up overnight?
MR. RUDENKO-Yes. It’s permanent and it’s placed there for 14 to 16 weeks depending on the length of
the season.
MR. TRAVER-Okay, and you’ve been there for some time. The only difference in this is an updated 10
foot extension.
MR. RUDENKO-Ten by ten foot enlargement. Yes.
MR. TRAVER-Any questions from members of the Planning Board? We do have a public hearing on this
application as well. Is there anyone that wanted to discuss this application with the Planning Board? I
don’t see anyone. Laura, are there any written comments?
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
MRS. MOORE-I don’t have any written comments.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Then we’ll close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MR. TRAVER-Any concerns with the five year renewal, or obviously the increase in the size of the canopy?
All right. I guess we’re ready for a motion.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SP # 7-2020 WILLIAM RUDENKO
The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board for Site Plan approval pursuant to
Article 9 of the Town zoning Ordinance for: Applicant proposes to modify an existing 20’ x 20’ seasonal
produce stand to a 30’ x 20’ seasonal produce stand tent for a five year period starting with 2020. Produce
stand is to operate seasonally June to October. Project site contains an existing restaurant to remain with
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no changes. Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040 of the Zoning Ordinance, produce stand modification shall be
subject to Planning Board review and approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-080, the Planning
Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code;
As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to the Warren
County Planning Department for its recommendation;
The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 02/18/2020 and continued the
public hearing to 02/18/2020, when it was closed,
The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all comments
made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 02/18/2020;
The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and
standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval,
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN 7-2020 WILLIAM RUDENKO, Introduced by Michael Dixon
who moved for its adoption.
Per the draft provided by staff conditioned upon the following conditions:
1) Waivers request granted: g. site lighting, h. signage, j. stormwater, k. topography, l. landscaping, n
traffic, o. commercial alterations/ construction details, p floor plans, q. soil logs, r.
construction/demolition disposal s. snow removal.
2) Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution
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Motion seconded by Brad Magowan. Duly adopted this 18 day of February, 2020 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Dixon, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Valentine, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: Ms. White, Mr. Deeb
MR. TRAVER-You’re all set.
MR. RUDENKO-Thank you, gentlemen.
MR. TRAVER-Next under New Business we have Hudson Headwaters Health Network, Site Plan 10-
2020.
SITE PLAN NO. 10-2020 SEQR TYPE: TYPE II. HUDSON HEADWATERS HEALTH NETWORK.
AGENT(S): MJ ENGINEERING. OWNER(S): SAME AS APPLICANT. ZONING: CLI.
LOCATION: 27 CAREY ROAD. APPLICANT PROPOSES TO UTILIZE TWO EXISTING
BUILDINGS WHERE THE EXISTING MAIN BUILDING IS TO BE CONVERTED TO OFFICE
SPACE AND THE WAREHOUSE SPACE TO BE ENCLOSED FOR HEATED STORAGE. PROJECT
IS ASSOCIATED WITH EXISTING HUDSON HEADWATERS COMPLEX FACILITY ON
ADJACENT PROPERTY. SITE WORK INCLUDES CLEARING, NEW PARKING,
LANDSCAPING, STORMWATER AREAS AND SIDEWALKS. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 179-3-
040 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, REUSE OF COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS SHALL BE
SUBJECT TO PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CROSS REFERENCE: CC-310-
2015 NEW OFFICE, CC-490-2016 OFFICE ALT., PZ-257-2016 FENCE, SP 45-2018 SHED.
WARREN CO. REFERRAL: FEBRUARY 2020. LOT SIZE: 1.70 ACRES. TAX MAP NO. 308.16-
2-2.2. SECTION: 179-3-040.
JAIME EASTON, REPRESENTING APPLICANT, PRESENT
MR. TRAVER-Laura?
MRS. MOORE-The applicant proposes to utilize two existing buildings where the existing main building
is to be converted to office space and the warehouse space to be enclosed for heated storage. The project
is associated with the existing Hudson Headwaters complex facility on the adjacent property. So there’s
quite a bit of site work that connects it to the adjoining property of Hudson Headwaters.
MR. TRAVER-Thank you. Good evening.
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MR. EASTON-Good evening, Board. My name is Jaime Easton. I’m with MJ Engineering. I’m here
tonight to talk about Hudson Headwaters expansion. Due to their ever growing health care needs and
meeting patient requirements they purchased 27 Carey Road, the existing two metal buildings. One is
basically a three sided pole barn right now which is to the south on that drawing, and the north was an
office space/indoor manufacturing or fit up space for stuff. The existing building that was really office
space, we provided a floor plan by A Plus Architects, and elevation changes. Basically that’s going to be
all converted to office space for that one building. The current three-sided basically I’ll call it a pole barn,
open-sided, two bays will be closed off and heated. The other two bays, it was to my, I found out later on
that they’re actually going to close those off, but they will not be heated. Okay. So those elevation
drawings are correct. I know I made reference to that in the stormwater report and that was actually a
good catch by someone that saw the difference between the two. Certainly we’ve received comments from
Chazen and from the City engineer in regards to water connections because we are taking the existing
building. Hudson Headwaters would like to sprinkler the building, even though it’s not required by
Building Code. So the current engine has service that feeds this building or one in service that feeds the
building. We’ll be taking that out and putting in a four inch service so that sprinklers can be installed and
will be installed inside the building. Part of Hudson Headwaters’ overall complex her, obviously if you
look at some of the other aerial images or the plans that we have, certainly they own the three other parcels
that surround this, and their current parking for this, I think it’s called West 2, currently that parking lot,
the fence that’s right there, it’s approximately like three, four feet away. It’s not that far, and a lot of the
doctors I guess park in the back, and the main parking field out in the front is where customers or patients
go and enter the building. So due to the lack of space in the back side of the building, Hudson Headwaters
Health Network wanted to increase available parking for their doctors and provide connectivity to
basically the other sites to have flow between all sites. So we included the sidewalk coming up near their
front entrance to their main building, another sidewalk and activity near the dumpster enclosures. Some
of it right now if you’ve been there, you’ve kind of got to jog around the dumpster pads to get from one
place to another and circulation isn’t the best. It wasn’t thought about as they built onto these things. So
we’re trying to address some of the issues as we’re going through. Certainly for the office building that’s
being converted we certainly have enough parking, but we over parked., We had some additional parking
in the rear and that was because of their desire to add basically parking in the rear for additional doctors.
As a complete side note, as part of the sewer district that was improved in this area, the existing buildings,
as we show in our documents, the existing septic fields will be basically abandoned and will be connected
to the existing low pressure sewer force main for their other three buildings that I’ll be taking care of and
there was one light improvement near the main road due to a recent accident there. The light fixture
wasn’t, they wanted to make sure that it was better lit at that location. So we’ve also added that
information onto the drawings, even though we’re really talking about 27 Carey Road. We’re just showing
the global impact of what Hudson Headwaters is proposing for this whole site., At this point I’ll turn it
over to the Board and I’ll answer any general questions they may have.
MR. DIXON-Mr. Chairman, before we get started, I do have to add for full disclosure I work for a company
that leases space from Hudson Headwaters. I can’t even tell you which building it’s in. So honestly there’s
no conflict, but just for the record.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Well you’ve disclosed that. Thank you very much. I agree there’s no conflict. I
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have a question about the Chazen comments that we’ve received that’s dated February 14 and there are a
number of items in there where they’re concerned about missing information or incomplete information I
would say. One of them, Number Four, is speaking about the infiltration facility, flow conditions,
including a remark that there may be additional site plan review if soil conditions as disclosed end up
changing the infiltration design. Are you aware of that comment?
MR. EASTON-Yes, I am aware of that comment. I understand where Chazen’s coming from. They’re
kind of leaning towards the New York State DEC regulations and stormwater requirements that once you
go over one acre on the project site there’s different requirements. I will agree with Chazen that there’s
additional areas of disturbance that I should include in that to come up with that, but we still feel that
we’ll be under one acre. The areas that, because the time of year that we did this we could not do the test
pits for infiltration results, but we do have historical information when 27 Carey Road was designed and
built. So the septic field which is right behind this right here, there’s a bunch of existing test pit data that
was already performed and I used that same percolation rate as the infiltration basin is 30 feet away from
it, and that same assumed rate to the south. With that I also assumed in the stormwater report a safety
factor and so I included the safety factor above that which is not required. So again to provide a buffer
area at least to ensure that everything infiltrates. We did follow the requirement that 10% of the bottom
of the area go to four foot below for infiltration below the frost line. We did all those requirements but
we don’t have the additional test pits. We can certainly do those test pits, but I don’t think it’s going to
change the design. Certainly the soil infiltration rates here compared to other documents that are
surrounding the site and certainly from doing Stewart’s just down the road, the stormwater engineer for
Stewart’s and that project, those results are typically the same as these results here. I don’t expect it to
change. It’s all sand.
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MR. TRAVER-I mention it primarily because there are three or four items where there’s a concern, in their
opinion, that there’s incomplete information. That sounds like you’re confident you can come to an
accommodation.
MR. EASTON-Yes.
MR. TRAVER-You need to have engineering signoff obviously.
MR. EASTON-I would totally agree, yes. I think, you know, what needs to happen is I need to come up
with a response letter, provide Chazen with additional information for clarity purposes, and then they can
look at this and then agree with my assertion.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Very good.
MR. VALENTINE-Jaime, just a broad stroke on this I’m looking at. We have really four buildings here,
sort of in three different areas. Right? So 161 there are two buildings, there are two, it’s like a connection
of a bunch of them. 161, is the only thing going on there pavement improvements at 161?
MR. EASTON-161, yes, the only area of pavement improvements on 161 is to the existing handicap parking
stalls out in front. The porous pavement out there has failed, and basically has caused puddles in the front
so as the handicap people get out of their cars they’/re standing in puddles to go into the facility. So they
want that to be changed. So we’re installing drywells only for those two locations. We pitched the
pavement in that area and made that all work. So we’ll have a little disturbance area, getting back to
Chazen’s letter, you know, for that. So I need to account for that, but that’s the only pavement
improvements on 161.
MR. VALENTINE-And there is a force main going in to 161 also. Right?
MR. EASTON-That is correct. So the low pressure grinder pump lines that we’ll install, they’re all
directionally drilled so there’s no pavement disturbance or any ground disturbance because it’s an inch and
a quarter line. You can directionally drill up to about 300 linear feet of inch and a quarter line without any
problems before you have a receiving pit.
MR. VALENTINE-That was sort of where I was going to. You’re doing a push underneath, then.
MR. EASTON-Yes.
MR. VALENTINE-Okay.
MR. EASTON-I’m pushing the whole thing.
MR. VALENTINE-And the areas where you show pavement changes and stuff, there was nothing in there
for pavement changes where the force mains were.
MR. EASTON-That is correct.
MR. VALENTINE-Then the only other work is at 27, and that is, as you mentioned, again, force main, new
water connection, and milling and paving.
MR. EASTON-That is correct.
MR. VALENTINE-There’s nothing done to the southerly building except for enclosing that one side?
MR. EASTON-Yes, that is correct.
MR. VALENTINE-All right, and that seems to be the weak sister as far as the landscaping plan goes.
There’s nothing on that compared to the one to the north. I know it’s only a garage or storage, but, so it’s
sort of like the weak link there.
MR. EASTON-Certainly I can bring it back, we could add some landscaping to it. Certainly the tree line
and everything else around the building, certainly could we add more, I’ll call it landscaping on this
periphery right around here.
MR. VALENTINE-Well, that’s your snow storage. You marked that and you marked the other one to the
north as snow storage, but there’s a tremendous loss for the parking area, tremendous loss of whatever
type of that vegetation. So I was just looking at those southerly two buildings saying there’s nothing really
there to say, okay, we’re taking this as garage, sorry, you don’t get any landscaping.
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MR. EASTON-Certainly the major, the whole front area in here is all large pine trees. So to put bushes or
shrubs in there, they’re just going to die. So there’s really no light underneath the canopy that we would
really look at for placing in the front. The trees that are going to be taken down, I’m kind of highlighting
this area, is between the existing wood fence and approximately 20 to 30 feet back here where there’s trees
in there where the trees will be taken down, but the rest of it is all currently pavement out there to begin
with. So if there’s additional landscaping, our landscape architect would love to add more stuff.
MR. HUNSINGER-So what happened to the porous pavement?
MR. EASTON-The porous pavement, there’s lots of factors that can go in to make it fail.
MR. HUNSINGER-Yes.
MR. EASTON-I’m not going to go into the history of why it failed and things like that, but typically the
problem is education and making sure that the proper people know the proper things you need to do. So
for example you can only use true salt. You can’t use a salt and sand mixture because that clogs the pores.
So if the maintenance guy doesn’t tell the snow plow operator to do that, then it causes problems, and
maybe in his contract he said I’m going to use a salt and sand mixture so it clogs the pores. Well then
you’re supposed to vacuum it also about four times a year. Did Hudson Headwaters know about that?
The larger issue why 161 Carey failed is more to do with the grade and pitch of it. Certainly the design of
that parking lot, it’s generally what you try to do with a normal parking lot, you try to sheet flow it away
from the building. There’s still, there’s a high point in the center that kind of drains it towards the building,
and they were anticipating that all porous pavement, all the water would sink through the pavement before
it got to the curb line, but what happened is as that pavement has since not been maintained properly, it’s
now migrating towards those handicap parking stalls and then it’s getting the sediment load to those
locations, preventing it going through. So there is a place in the design, but you also as an engineer have
to design it in a way that if it does fail due to lack of maintenance, lack of education, you need to make sure
it goes some place to a normal facility, but most times up in the northeast I don’t particularly like porous
pavement, even though it’s a very nice idea. You’ve got a lot of sand, you can move the stormwater to a
location and you can get it to infiltrate very efficiently or an underground raised system. There’s ways to
do it without compromising the inevitable problems that you could potentially come with in the sense of
human error, whether that’s using the right plow blade because you use a steel plow blade on it, you just
rip up the pavement. So there’s lots of little things like that that you can have a porous pavement. It’s a
great idea, but again, it’s for the right location for the right things.
MR. HUNSINGER-I was on that site not long after it was put in. I mean it was really beautiful. We were
there in the pouring rain and you stepped out of your car and it’s dry. I mean it was really neat. So I’m
sorry to hear that it didn’t work out so well.
MR. EASTON-Again, typically the porous pavement works great. It’s all about the maintenance and
education of that and understanding what’s really required and then relaying that down the chain of
command and making sure that they all have that, and it’s tough as an engineer. You typically want to
design things as failsafe so if that fails it can go someplace else, and then those things just come into play.
MR. VALENTINE-So your mill and fill is going to be standard.
MR. EASTON-Yes. So everything that we’re showing here is the standard asphalt. That’s what they
wanted. We’re milling the front area right in, you know, this existing parking lot, removing a little bit of
pavement, but we’re milling that because there is a low spot directly right in front of, right about there
there’s a low spot an it’s shown on our survey plan that water gathers right there so that’s where I’m
putting in a drywell. That’s one of actually Chazen’s comments. They’re like you’re putting in a drywell
and you’re saying that no stormwater leaves the site because it doesn’t. Everything just goes to that low
spot. After it spreads out and goes into the tree area a little bit and it infiltrates right there. It literally
moves 10 feet and just infiltrates, but there’s little things like that they want us to fix and correct. So it’s
tough to make the pavement move where you want it to go so you’ve got to mill and fill a little bit here.
MR. MAGOWAN-Back on the parking lot, every time I was in there, you know, it looked like the stones
were always coming up and it really, due to the tight radius parking lot , people backing up, turning the
wheels, not moving, you know, and the sharp corners, does that have some effect, too?
MR. EASTON-It absolutely does.
MR. MAGOWAN-I mean, a straight road or something that you’re moving, that’s great. I mean you look
at the Beach Road. You don’t have the problem there. That’s a little different site. This is a little courser,
but I notice on the hot summer days there, especially, you know, the big tires, the vehicles. I have a dually
and going around the corner sometimes.
MR. EASTON-So typically the rule of thumb that we normally try to use is when you use porous pavement
you typically want to put it in the parking stall areas only. The main traveling you still want as standard
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pavement. Sometimes the contractors generally don’t like doing that because they’re bringing in different
things and it’s just tough for them to do. So that’s why it just drives up costs, and it’s all these other little
things, but you are correct, pavement, snow plowing, everything else you start taking up the pavement and
then you see the snow pile with 10,000 pieces of aggregate in it, and then that’s just really wearing down
your, wearing labor, and that’s a problem. I’ve also seen in other communities where people forgot that
there’s porous pavement and then they want the parking lot re-striped, and that happens a lot, but what
also they do when they typically re-stripe is sealcoat. So they sealcoat it and then they just, and stop it
from there. So I’ve also seen that and someone asked me, ii have a drainage problem and I’ve walked out
there and looked at it and said you have a sealcoat problem. That’s what you did. So some of those little,
again, inherent errors that people do over time. They don’t think it’s a big deal. Again you hire someone
to do something because, and they just don’t know the engineering. So there’s an educational problem.
So, like I said, most of the time I try to stay away from it as an engineer because there’s too many inherent
errors that could possibly go wrong.
MR. DIXON-May I ask you a question on the lighting plan?
MR. EASTON-Sure.
MR. DIXON-So on Page C-9, so on the lighting plan, which looks fantastic, I’m just curious, I guess it
would be on the west side, there’s two handicap parking spots, but according to this plan there’s no light
there.
MR. EASTON-We didn’t simulate, there is a light on the front of the building. We can simulate that, to
light that up. That’s easy enough. We’ll provide that, and if it doesn’t provide enough we’ll change out
the wall pack because obviously the electrical is right there and we just have to change it out from, I’m just
going to make up a number here, from a 50 watt lightbulb to a 100 watt lightbulb, just to make it simple,
but it will be downcast and everything else.
MR. DIXON-Is that anything we have to identify, then, Laura, or is that?
MRS. MOORE-If you notice the pole light issue, I identified that it’s pretty bright compared to what we
see for an office area, but I know that the lot is in the rear of Carey Industrial Park. So I don’t know if there
was a detail of that, why it was so bright versus what we suggest as a guidance, which is that one for a
small office, between 4.27 and 7.18. So it’s tripled.
MR. EASTON-Yes. Certainly it’s high because we’re using the existing light pole bases to light up the
whole parking lot on both sides. So now you’re having two heads within realistically five feet, three feet
from each other. So the foot candles at the bottom of it are very intense, but we can also look at, very
simple. LED lights now come with dimmer switches. You can dim them down and just reduce down
electrical demand and reduce down the power. So that’s something that we can easily add to it. So we
have no problem doing that. We saw that in your comments and it was one of the items we can easily
address.
MR. TRAVER-We do have a public hearing on this application. Is there anyone here that wanted to
address the Planning Board on this application? I’m not seeing anyone. Laura, are there any written
comments>?
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
MRS. MOORE-There are no written comments.
MR. TRAVER-How do members of the Board feel on this application? We have, the applicant has offered
to submit some additional information. I don’t know if we need to see that before we move on this?
MR. DIXON-I’d be okay either way. I have to say Hudson Headwaters does a beautiful job with their
properties, maintaining them.
MR. TRAVER-Yes.
MR. DIXON-The additional light back there, I mean since it is a wooded lot, I don’t see an issue with it.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. All right. Then I guess we’re comfortable moving forward. Okay. Very good.
Then we’re ready to entertain a motion.
MR. VALENTINE-Did you close the public hearing?
MR. TRAVER-Did I? I’m sorry. I’ll close the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
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MR. TRAVER-Thank you for that.
RESOLUTION APPROVING SP # 10-2020 HUDSON HEADWATERS HEALTH NETWORK
The applicant has submitted an application to the Planning Board: Applicant proposes to utilize two
existing buildings where the existing main building is to be converted to office space and the warehouse
space to be enclosed for heated storage. Project is associated with existing Hudson Headwaters complex
facility on adjacent property. Site work includes clearing, new parking, landscaping, stormwater areas and
sidewalks. Pursuant to Chapter 179-3-040 of the Zoning Ordinance, reuse of commercial buildings shall
be subject to Planning Board review and approval.
Pursuant to relevant sections of the Town of Queensbury Zoning Code-Chapter 179-9-080, the Planning
Board has determined that this proposal satisfies the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code;
As required by General Municipal Law Section 239-m the site plan application was referred to the Warren
County Planning Department for its recommendation;
The Planning Board opened a public hearing on the Site plan application on 02/18/2020 and continued the
public hearing to 02/18/2020, when it was closed,
The Planning Board has reviewed the application materials submitted by the applicant and all comments
made at the public hearing and submitted in writing through and including 02/18/2020;
The Planning Board determines that the application complies with the review considerations and
standards set forth in Article 9 of the Zoning Ordinance for Site Plan approval,
MOTION TO APPROVE SITE PLAN 10-2020 HUDSON HEADWATERS HEALTH NETWORK.
Introduced by Michael Dixon who moved for its adoption;
According to the draft resolution prepared by Staff with the following:
1) Waivers requested granted;
2. Adherence to the items outlined in the follow-up letter sent with this resolution.
a) The limits of clearing will constitute a no-cut buffer zone, orange construction fencing shall
be installed around these areas and field verified by Community Development staff;
b) If applicable, the Sanitary Sewer connection plan must be submitted to the Wastewater
Department for its review, approval, permitting and inspection;
c) If curb cuts are being added or changed a driveway permit is required. A building permit will not
be issued until the approved driveway permit has been provided to the Planning Office;
d) If application was referred to engineering then Engineering sign-off required prior to signature of
Zoning Administrator of the approved plans;
e) Final approved plans should have dimensions and setbacks noted on the site plan/survey, floor
plans and elevation for the existing rooms and proposed rooms in the building and site
improvements;-
f) If required, the applicant must submit a copy of the following to the Town:
a. The project NOI (Notice of Intent) for coverage under the current "NYSDEC SPDES
General Permit from Construction Activity" prior to the start of any site work.
b. The project NOT (Notice of Termination) upon completion of the project;
c. The applicant must maintain on their project site, for review by staff:
i. The approved final plans that have been stamped by the Town Zoning
Administrator. These plans must include the project SWPPP (Storm Water
Pollution Prevention Plan) when such a plan was prepared and approved;
ii. The project NOI and proof of coverage under the current NYSDEC SPDES General
Permit, or an individual SPDES permit issued for the project if required.
g) Final approved plans, in compliance with the Site Plan, must be submitted to the Community
Development Department before any further review by the Zoning Administrator or Building and
Codes personnel;
h) The applicant must meet with Staff after approval and prior to issuance of Building Permit
and/or the beginning of any site work;
i) Subsequent issuance of further permits, including building permits is dependent on compliance
with this and all other conditions of this resolution;
j) As-built plans to certify that the site plan is developed according to the approved plans to be
provided prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy.
k) This resolution is to be placed in its entirety on the final plans
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Motion seconded by Michael Valentine. Duly adopted this 18 day of February, 2020 by the following
vote:
AYES: Mr. Dixon, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Magowan, Mr. Valentine, Mr. Traver
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NOES: NONE
ABSENT: Ms. White, Mr. Deeb
MR. TRAVER-You’re all set.
MR. EASTON-Thank you, Board.
MR. TRAVER-So that concludes our agenda. Laura, you mentioned the possibility of having three
meetings next month.
MRS. MOORE-Right. So there were two applications on your agenda that will be removed from your
agenda next week, which would be Heinzelman and Bhatti. At the ZBA level the Post Star didn’t advertise
correctly. So we actually have to move those two particular applications to a different night in March. So
with that in mind I had four other applications for the Zoning Board that got bumped to a March meeting.
So we tentatively have 3/30 or 3/31. So if you could check your calendars or if you know, one’s a Monday
and one’s a Tuesday, that we would have a third meeting in March.,
MR. TRAVER-Now I had for some reason, and maybe I wrote it down incorrectly, but I had, as a proposed
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potential third meeting in March, the 26.
MRS. MOORE-Correct. It’s a Thursday, and Thursday this room is used. . We didn’t win out.
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MR. TRAVER-All right. So you’re suggesting either the 30 or the 31.
MRS. MOORE-Correct.
MR. TRAVER-All right. So if folks could look at that and then we would vote on that next week.
MRS. MOORE-Next Tuesday. Yes.
MR. TRAVER-Okay. Anything else before the Board tonight? Then I guess we’ll entertain a motion to
adjourn.
MOTION TO ADJOURN THE QUEENSBURY PLANNING BOARD MEETING OF FEBRUARY
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18, 2020, Introduced by Chris Hunsinger who moved for its adoption, seconded by Brad Magowan:
Duly adopted this 18rh day of February, 2020, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Magowan, Mr. Hunsinger, Mr. Shafer, Mr. Dixon, Mr. Valentine, Mr. Traver
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: Ms. White, Mr. Deeb
MR. TRAVER-We stand adjourned. Thanks, everybody.
On motion meeting was adjourned.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Stephen Traver, Chairman
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