1988-08-10 SP 14'7
SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING
AUGUST 10. 1988
4:10 P.M.
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT
STEPHEN BORGOS-SUPERVISOR
MARILYN POTENZA-COUNCILMAN
RONALD MONTESI-COUNCILMAN
BETTY MONAHAN-COUNCILMAN
BOARD MEMBER ABSENT
GEORGE KUROSAKA-COUNCILMAN
TOWN ATTORNEY
PAUL DUSEK
TOWN OFFICIALS
LEE YORK
ROBERT EDDY
KATHLEEN KATHE
PRESS: WENU, G.F. Post Star
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY TOWN CLERK DOUGHER
Discussion was held regarding Round Pond Election- Town Attorney and Supervisor
noted that we will abide by the Court decision.
RESOLUTION OF TOWN BOARD FOR PROPOSITION AT SPECIAL ELECTION
RESOLUTION NO. 340, Introduced by Ronald Montesi who moved for its adoption, seconded
by Marilyn Potenza.
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury was served on October 31, 1986
with a petition requesting that a special election be held on the following proposition:
"a proposition for the establishment of a public park on Round Pond through
acquisition by the Town of Queensbury, for just compensation by means
of
negotiation or eminent domain, of not less than 50 acres of land and
buildings
thereon known as Paradise Lake Resort now or formerly owned by Salvatore
Russo.", and
WHEREAS, the propriety of the petition was litigated between the Town Board of
the Town of Queensbury and the Queensbury Association and others and the Town
Board of the Town of Queensbury has been served with an order of the Appellate
Division of the Supreme Court of the State of New York in and for the Third Judicial
Department affirming the order of the Hon. Thomas E. Mercure entered January 5,
1988, directing that a special election concerning the aforedescribed proposition
be held,
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
RESOLVED, by the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, in the County of Warren,
as follows:
1. A special election shall be held in the Town of Queensbury on the 27th day
of September, 1988, for the purpose of submitting to the qualified electors
of said Town, the following proposition:
"Shall the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury establish a public park
on Round Pond
through acquisition of land by the Town of Queensbury, for just compensation by
means of negotiation or eminent domain, of not less than 50 acres of land and
buildings thereon known as Paradise Lake Resort now or formerly owned
by Salvatore Russo?"
2. Said special election shall be held at the following Ward Election Districts
in said Town:
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LOCATIONS
1 1 North Queensbury Rescue Squad
1 2 Bay Ridge Fire House
1 3 Bay Ridge Fire House
1 4 Warren County Municipal Center
2 1 South Queensbury Fire House
2 2 Town of Queensbury Office Building
2 3 Queensbury Central Fire House (Foster Ave.)
2 4 Town of Queensbury Office Building
2 5 Robert Gardens (Recreation Room)
3 1 Queensbury Central Fire House (Aviation Rd.)
3 2 Queensbury Senior High School
3 3 John Burke Apartments
3 4 Kensington Road School
4 1 West Glens Falls Fire House
4 2 Queensbury Water Plant (Maintenance Building)
4 3 West Glens Falls Fire House
4 4 West Glens Falls Fire House
4 5 West Glens Falls Fire House
and the polls for said election shall be open at the hour of 6:00 A.M. o'clock
in the morning and shall be closed at the hour of 9:00 P.M. o'clock in the evening.
The vote upon such proposition shall be taken by ballot in the manner provided
by law.
3. Voters must be registered to vote no later than September 16, 1988.
4. The Town Clerk of the Town of Queensbury is hereby authorized and directed
to give notice of said special election in the manner provided by law and to cause
suitable ballots to be prepared for use at said election. Inspectors of election
at such special election shall be as established by law.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Potenza, Mr. Montesi, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Kurosaka
DISCUSSION HELD BEFORE VOTE:
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Concerned with misleading the voters to believe the 50 acres
in question are those on one side, nearest the lake.
COUNSEL DUSEK-Noted that the law states the proposition that was submitted cannot
be varied. Stated that the Town could hold a Public Informational meeting to
express all concerns.
SUPERVISOR BORGOS-Noted that Mr. Rayhill had previously requested a meeting time
and that maybe the Town Board could hold one simultaneously.
BERNARD RAYHILL-Noted that the nature of the meeting was not informational in
essence but organizational in essence, to establish a fund raising campaign for
the Rond Pond Committee. Not an informational meeting but rather a meeting for
the Coordinating Committee for Rond Pond. We will be holding an informational
meeting in the future which will be announced for all the people in Queensbury,
and will be at another location than the Town Office Building.
SUPERVISOR BORGOS-Concerned with the use of the Town Building for fund raising.
Asked Town Counsel, Paul to research this, as a proper use of the building.
MR. RAYHILL-I understand, but I would like to clarify that we are talking about —
donations from the community for the Rond Pond park.
COUNCILMAN MONAHAN-Noted that their was a local group that expressed interest
in holding a forum on Rond Pond.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-Felt that the Town Board is obligated to hold a Public Informational
meeting, to present the information that we gather. This is not a debate.
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SUPERVISOR BORGOS-Noted that none of the meetings need to be excluded, that he
would be willing to be present at anyone of them.
The following comments have been submitted by the public, the Town Board will
now review those comments and determine if the Advisory Committee responses will
be accepted... on the Zoning Map, Zoning Districts and Regulations, Subdivision
Regulations, Natural Resources, and Miscellaneous...
Zoning Map - additional comments and responses
Comment
I am the owner of the Adirondack Machine Corporation at 121 Dixon Road, Town of
Queensbury. This property would be more familiar to many local residents as the
old "Plug Mill" property. I wish to go on record opposing the proposed zoning
change for this area from the current UR-10 to SR-1A.
ACCEPTED RESPONSE
The development in the area is primarily residential in nature. The soil conditions
(high percolation rate) in the area do not warrant less than 1 acre.
Comment
We presently own Tax Map Parcels 74-1-20 and 74-1-19.1. We have seen a copy of
the new Zoning Map and it appears that a portion of our property has been placed
in a Land Conservation 42 acre zone but it is impossible to determine how many
acres. We would appreciate clarification of exactly how much is proposed to be
included in this zone, in order that we would have the opportunity to comment
to you before this is zoned in this manner.
We have no information on how it was determined that any portion of it be considered
or designated as a wetland and would appreciate your explanation of this.
We do not wish to be penalized by a new zoning of our property without having
the opportunity of knowing how this land was designated a wetland and how much
is included. We cannot even comment without the answer to these questions and
don't feel it's fair that the Board change this zoning before we have had this
opportunity.
ACCEPTED RESPONSE
The Planning Staff has written to the property owner and requested that they come
to the office and identify their property on the neighborhood maps.
D.E.C. designates wetlands and does this according to the cover vegetation in
the area. The Town goes by the DEC determinations. It is possible that wetlands
have been expanded by beaver activity in the area. Cleaning out of dams in culverts
may remove some of the wet area, given time. The Planning Staff would appreciate
having the property in question identified by the owner, however, a land conservation
zone of 42 acres was developed around the designated environmentally sensitive
area around Rush Pond.
Comment
I own a tract of land (#34-2-4.1) west of Glen Lake. The north western end is
in RC-15, with the LC-42A designation to the north in the wetland area. I would
like to request that my land in the LC-42 zone be redesignated RC-15.
ACCEPTED RESPONSE
The zoning of the LC-42 wetlands were done by using the wetland maps designated
by DEC, which are the official maps. In order to change the delineation of this
zone it would be necessary for DEC to modify their Wetlands Maps. The property
owner can request that DEC staff look over the property and possibly change the
designation of it.
Comment
Prior to the proposed 1 acre lot, we felt the lot size should be 1 acre and would
not sell less than that to any buyer. We are not against "change" if it is truly
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best for all the citizens and land owners of the Town of Queensbury. We do feel
that a change from 3/4 of an acre to 3 acres is excessive.
Our property (Toomey's) is in a hardship situation because of the rezoning.
ACCEPTED RESPONSE
The rezoning of this property is consistent with the criteria developed for the
rezoning of the total Town. The Toomey property is in two large tracts in two
zones. On the west side of Bay Road the property is in a Single Family Residential
1 acre zone and on the east side of Bay Road it is zoned RR-3 acres. This does
not preclude a rezoning for greater density in the future.
NOW REFERRING TO THE ORIGINAL DRAFT COMIENT AND RESPONSE BOOKLET
Comment
The Earltown, Quaker Ridge property should be maintained as Industrial Reserve
rather than being changed to Land Conservation 42 acres. This is because it is
a PUD under review. The property cannot be developed at an LC-42 designation.
The Town needs this type of development to attract golfers and improve the economic
climate of the Town.
ACCEPTED RESPONSE
The Earltown, Quaker Ridge property has been zoned LC-10 in the DEC designated
wetlands.
In the area which was zoned LI-IA the line should be removed to allow for residential
development (SR-1A). This is in accordance with the wishes of the property owner
and will have no detrimental effect on the area.
Comment
87b.2. "A tourist cabin or similar structure... involving 300+ square feet" counts
as one principal building. Does this mean that a hotel room of over 300 square
feet is one principal building? I think it does. What about a lockout of two
adjoining 300 square feet units? Would that count as 2/10ths of a principal building
or one whole principal building?
ACCEPTED RESPONSE
The answer to both questions is yes.
Comment
87b.5. "Each commercial use structure and each industrial use structure in excess
of 300 square feet constitutes one principal building, except that for a commercial
use structure which involves the retail sale or rental or distribution of goods,
services or commodities, each 11,000 square feet of flood space or portion thereof
of such commercial use structure constitutes one principal building."
ACCEPTED RESPONSE
This is an APA definition. Commercial density outside of the APA jurisdiction
will be defined.
Comment
Page 112, Section 12.072 - Expiration of building permits - Permit expires if
project "is not in existence" within 180 days of issuance. This needs to be clarified.
Does existence mean started, completed or something in between?
ACCEPTED RESPONSE
In existence means the project is under construction. The Town Board has changed
the expiration date of a building permit to 270 days.
Comment
The FCC regulates satellite T.V. receivers as of 1986 and local municipalities
have very limited rights as far as regulating them. The new zoning regulates
their location and screening.
ACCEPTED RESPONSE
The zoning regulations state that satellite dishes are accessory structures and
have to meet the requirement for such structures. Further the regulations for
those has been modified in accordance with FCC guidelines and other approved ordinances
supplied by the Department of State.
The Town has been in touch with the FCC and they have indicated to us that
FCC regulations do not supersede local regulations. We feel that the regulations
in this matter are fair and reasonable.
Comment
I own two lots, one directly behind the other. My intention was to build on each
lot. I have my home on one lot now.
ACCEPTED RESPONSE
If the property has a mutual boundary and has constructed a building on one then
the two nonconforming lots become one conforming lot with one principal use, if
they are in the ownership of a single individual with the exception of residential
subdivisions which have already been approved and filed.
Comment
Cronin/Bay Roads Area This area has a very high water table and is unsuitable
for development. This includes the Halfway Brook Corridor between Quaker and
Cronin and the lowlying area now mainly occupied by the Bay Meadows course. It
should be zoned for at least a 3 acre minimum, consistent with similar areas elsewhere.
Because it is now mostly woods, wetlands and golf course, the impact of this change
on the landowners will be minimal.
ACCEPTED RESPONSE
The Bay Meadows area has been down zoned substantially to 1 acre and the sewer
district being expanded to that area should accommodate this intensity of development.
— RESOLUTION ACCEPTING RESPONSES TO PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ZONING PROPOSALS
RESOLUTION NO. 341, Introduced by Marilyn Potenza who moved for its adoption,
seconded by Ronald Montesi.
Resolution forthcoming from Town Counsel. r-7,3
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Potenza, Mr. Montesi, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Kurosaka
On motion the meeting was adjourned.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
DARLEEN M. DOUGHER
TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF QUEENSBURY