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TOWN BOARD MEETING
AUGUST 23, 1988
7:30 P.M.
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT
STEPHEN BORG OS-SUP ERVISOR
MARILYN POTENZA-COUNCILMAN
RONALD MONTESI-COUNCILMAN
BETTY MONAHAN-COUNCILMAN
BOARD MEMBER ABSENT
GEORGE KUROSAKA-COUNCILMAN
TOWN COUNSEL
PAUL DUSEK
TOWN OFFICIALS
LEE YORK, DAVE HATIN, QUENTIN KESTNER
PRESS: G.F. Post Star, WENU
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCILMAN MONAHAN
RESOLUTION TO MOVE INTO QUEENSBURY BOARD OF HEALTH
RESOLUTION NO. 351, Introduced by Ronald Montesi who moved for its adoption, seconded
by Marilyn Potenza.
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby move into the Queensbury
Board of Health.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Potenza, Mr. Montesi, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Kurosaka
PUBLIC HEARING -SEWER VARIANCE
NOTICE SHOWN
WAYNE JUDGE-I, with Richard Bartlett, my partner, represent Storytown USA, the Great
Escape which is the applicant for a variance related to the septic system for the Bavarian
Pavilion. There has been so much written about the Bavarian Pavilion, I have made this
presentation so many times, I sound like a broken record. But I feel for the record, I have
to summarize the history of this application. What happen here, was the building was
purchased in Canada, the building called the Bavarian Pavilion, was purchased in Canada
in 1986. Shortly after it's purchased, Mr. Wood, the owner of the applicant, got in touch
with Mac Dean, from the Building Department, and explained to him in a very general
way, what he expected to do with the Bavarian Palace. After that point in time, Mr.
Wood's representatives met with the Building Department and applied for various inspections
and permits, over the period of the next two years until the spring of 1988. During that
period of time, a building permit was issued on the building to Attractions Land, which
is a Land Holding Company under Storytown, based on plans that had been submitted to
the Building Department. The Building permit was issued out of the Building Department
for the addition to the Bavarian Pavilion, also based on, onsite inspections and an application
made to the Building Department. The septic system was laid open and approved by the
Town, the Department of Environmental Conservation, and the Health Department, according
to the normal;procedures. At that time, the plans for the building were also made known
to the all the applicable agencies, involved in that process. A complete fire inspection
of the building was made and fire permits were granted to the building. In terms of the
access, a written application was made to the County of Warren, their representative
of the Highway Department, Mr. Gebo came down and inspected the proposed access and
approved two 24 foot wide access entrances and exits onto Round Pond Road provided
in the condition of the permit that was granted with that certain areas of burm be removed
from the area. At that point in time, it was almost before the Senior Prom at the Queensbury
High School. In order to comply with that permit, Mr. Wood had his crews working over
a weekend to remove all the necessary fill from the area to comply with the permit issued
by the Warren County Highway Department to get those two 24 foot wide access areas
built into the property. Then the engineer who was working for Mr. Wood called for a
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Certificate of Occupancy. At that point and for the first time, the people in the Building
Department of the Town of Queensbury discovered that some of their handbooks had written
in ink in it, that site plan review was required for restaurants... and some of the people
in the Building Department, did not have written in ink in their handbook that site plan
review was required for restaurants. By this point in time, if site plan review had not
been required, Mr. Wood had met all of the requirements and had received all of the necessary
permits to open his restaurant. Now that the Town took the position that, if site plan
review was required, what we really have to do was start the process all over again. However,
from a legal point of view, it is very, very difficult to obtain site plan review for a project
that is already an accomplished fact. Because in normal site plan review, the Planning
Board, which is a board that plans, that is why they are called a Planning Board, can say...
"We don't like this particular building here, why don't you move it a little bit over to the
left, and this road has a little too much of a slope, so why don't you move that to the right
and increase the slope." But now we are in a situation, where everything was finished,
all the permits were granted, and now we were going into a process where people were
making suggestions, about how it would have been nicer, had it been planned differently.
We went through this, we were supposed to get this site plan review application finished
within 5 days. What we actually did was appear before each one of the applicable boards,
the County Planning Board, the Beautification Committee, and the Town Board. Essentially
what we did was ask them to list for us all the concerns that they have about the project.
We indicated to them that we would do everything that we could in our power to comply
with all the concerns and we started actively meeting with the Building Department, that
we found to be very cooperative, both in the Planning Department phase of it and the
enforcement phase of it. They have been working with us along the way, that is why we
are here tonight to approve a system, a sanitary system, that is already, half of it is already
in place on the site and half of it is proposed. It is described on the first page of thisapplication
that you have in front of you. It would not make much sense for me to describe it to
you, because I am not an engineer. We have with us tonight Dick Morris from the firm
of Morris Engineering. He is going to explain what the septic system is about. What we
are asking the Board to do tonight is to grant us permission to leave the seepage pits in
place and the seepage pits are located under parking areas. For a long period of time
in the Town of Queensbury this was permitted by the Building Department, even though
your building code prohibited any component of a septic system to be placed under a parking
area, that is the way the statue read, but in actual fact, their are builders all over the
Town who can testify that they have put these in and they have been approved by the
Building Department. Ours, a portion of the system is now in, we are asking for approval
of that, and the system has also been modified, and Mr. Morris will explain how that was
approached.
DICK MORRIS-I am with Morris Engineering in Queensbury. Let me just briefly, if I might,
put a drawing in front of the Board. (referred to drawing)... Reviewed the basic project
with the use of maps with the Town Board...noting the tile fields under the asphalt those
being tied into two existing septic tanks...we are proposing to add additional septic tanks...spoke
on the existing law, no leaching device will be placed underneath any part of a paved area,
I believe the flavor of the ordinance is concerned with loading on the system that might
make the system inoperable because of the loading on it...the devices that have been placed
in the area are seepage pits, fort miller castings...
COUNCILMAN POTNEZA-Is the proposed area going to be a parking area?
DICK MORRIS-From the fence down will be parking it is also proposed to be gravel to
minimize the blacktop...Regarding the existing structure, from Ed. and Thomas O'Connor
the installer of the structure, they installed an 8" traffic cover on the existing dry wells
2. invoice from Fort Miller shows the 8" traffic covers...3. Ltr. ENCON, Warrensburg
Office-placed under N.Y. State guidelines...Reviewed the separate system from the Kitchen
and the restrooms...
QUENTIN KESTNER-Kestner Engineer-Reading from Ltr. my purpose in writing this
is to provide advice concerning the acceptability of the existing and proposed subsurface
water disposal system for the Bavarian Palace. The existing sanitary sewer disposal ordinance
prohibits locating any component of a leaching facility under driveways, roads parking
areas or any areas subject to heavy loading. The site plan for the Bavarian Palace indicates
that both the existing seepage pit and the proposed seepage pits are to be located under
designated parking areas. I have examined the drawings and the design bases for the existing --''-
and proposed pits and find them properly sized and in conformance with existing regulations.
By that I mean the Town standards and the standards of the N.Y. St. Health Dept. which
by reference are incorporated into the Town standards. Based upon the proposed use indicated
flows and soil conditions we feel that the construction for the sanitary dry wells have
been properly installed are appropriate for use in a vehicular parking area based on manufacturers
recommendations. Accordingly because the system is sized in accordance with regulations
and constructed with appropriate materials I have no objections to their located seepage
pits under the parking area. That was addressed specifically to the Bavarian Palace...I
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go further in saying until I receive additional information it would be my suggestion a
variance such as the one suggested there be done on a case by case basis. Obviously if
systems are inadequately sized and or not constructed with appropriate materials then
it would be undesirable to locating such seepage pits under parking areas. I would note
that when I originally looked at this there was only the one centrally located system, since
that time they have added the additional one as was described by Mr. Morris. You are
also aware that we have a seepage pit problem at Reservoir Park and I think that if members
of the board have walked out there, they are aware of the sogginess and the movement
of the ground underfoot. I think you can see that if these systems are not properly sized
or properly constructed or in the case of Reservoir Park, perhaps limited maintenance
they do fail. When they fail they saturate the ground and they could damage or vehicles
could sink down into the asphalt not being ridged pavement and so if the system was not
properly designed or properly sized then it would be undesirable to do this. That is why
I am suggesting that you approve this but perhaps keeping that section in effect until
such time as we have more chance to pursue this. It has been indicated to me that there
are more than one system of this type installed in parking areas and it is my understanding
but I haven't studied it, that these work satisfactorily. I think that the basis for the ordinance
is still sound and that is an issue for another time.
SUPERVISOR BORGOS-In this case are you saying, from an engineering perspective this
isok ..
RUENTIN KESTNER-Especially with this, the addition that it has been properly sized
one has to assume that it will be properly maintained and certainly it has been made of
materials that by manufactures specifications are capable of accepting vehicular loads
and therefore I would suggest that you do grant the variance to the Bavarian Palace.
SUPERVISOR BORGOS-If for some reason this system should fail it is privately owned
and operated system, the private owner would have to take care of it, different from
Reservoir Park where we have a sewer district.
RUENTIN KESTNER-The one possible disadvantage is one issue that will be discussed
at a later time, the availability and the amount of parking for the palace if the system
were to fail, this could limit the parking, but I would say...as far as I am concerned they
have made a very legitimate effort to properly size the system and have selected the
appropriate materials and so I think it is appropriate for the Board to grant the variance.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI-The subsurface soils here is a good quality soil for perculation
too.
RUENTIN KESTNER-The soil is very highly permeable therefore it will accept a system
like this very well. Traditionally leaching pits were put in when you wanted to use an
available soil strata that was below perhaps 6-7-8 feet deep, below ground level where
you didn't go to an conventional leaching field you went to a pit system which allows the
material to seep into deeper strata which takes advantage to better available deeper soils.
They have very good soils there for this type of system.
SUPERVISOR BORGOS-Asked for further questions, ...no one spoke...
MR. GEORGE STARK-Mohican Motel-I have three separate septic systems that are paved
over, the last one I got my CO. May 27th of this year, I have never had any problems with
any of them. Britton came up during May when it was being constructed and said you
cannot use 6" covers you have to use 8" covers over the dry wells and we put them in and
I have never had any problems with the other systems and they have been in five years
now.
SUPERVISOR BORGOS-In our research, we did discover many local situations where the
septic system are under black top so this is not a unique situation. Asked for further comments...non
were heard. Check List for Project: Yes-There are special circumstances or conditions
of which the strict application of the provisions of this Ordinance would deprive the applicant
of reasonable use of such land. The special circumstances are there are no other available
space, slopes on both sides of the structure cannot physically accommodate a leach field...this
parcel will not accommodate a leach field as reasonably as it would accommodate seepage
-- pits because of the nature of the configuration of the land. The special circumstances
are the sloping areas and the inaccessibilities of traditional leach fields... Yes. That the
Variance would not be materially detrimental to the purposes or objectives of this Ordinance,
or to other adjoining properties or otherwise conflict with the purpose or objectives of
any plan or policy of the Town. New York State allows these types of systems-Mr. Kestner,
Town Engineer to give this satisfactory from and engineering point of view-Mr. Morris
a License Professional Eng. in the State of New York indicating that this would be acceptable-We
have had the presentation of formal drawings and ENCON Ltr. of Support Dated August
23, 1988-1 have seen a SPEEDES Permit granted for this installation by ENCON-We have
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certification from the people that installed the system that it is there as it is stated to
be. Yes. That the granting of the Variance is necessary for the reasonable use of the
land and that the Variance is the minimum Variance which would alleviate the specific
unnecessary hardship found by the local Board of Health to affect the applicant. Yes.
That the granting of the Variance is necessary for the reasonable use of the land and that
the Variance is the minimum Variance which would alleviate the specific unnecessary
hardship found by the local Board of Health to affect the applicant. The engineers have
indicated that the sizing is correct.
RESOLUTION TO APPROVE SEWER VARIANCE-GREAT ESCAPE
RESOLUTION NO. 8, Introduced by Mr. Ronald Montesi who moved for its adoption, seconded
by Mrs. Marilyn Potenza:
Resolution forthcoming from Town Attorney to be found on page
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Potenza, Mr. Montesi, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
Noes: None
Absent: *\"-1"'"`
PUBLIC HEARING-Sewer Variance Stan Lewza-13A Courthouse Drive-Notice Shown represented
by McCormack Ind.
Mr. McCormack-Our Variance is a request for a side line variance from the 20, distance
from the seepage pits to a 20' distance between the residence and the seepage pit. The
reason being that the pie shape dimension of the south west corner of the property eliminates
the ability to achieve a 20' distance between the property line and the seepage pit distance
and the residential house from the property itself. (used plot plan) this is five foot below
the foundation line of the building ...
Supervisor Borgos-Is there any reason why this was not put closer to the line other than
the buffer?
Mr. McCormack-also the fact that the property comes to a point...we could not put this
to the rear of the building because there is a pool location...
Mr. Kestner-Is this property served by municipal water?
Mr. McCormack-Yes.
Mr. Kestner-Do your neighbors have Town Water?
Mr. McCormack-Yes.
Councilman Montesi-What are we making the variance on?
Mr. Kestner-The pit is supposed to be 20 feet from the house...20 feet away or two times
the depth a distance from each other, it must be sized, certain distances from property
line, wells and other sensitive areas...
Councilman Montesi-questioned that the concern would be that if the seepage pit over
flowed it would penetrate the wall of the house...
Mr. Kestner-yes...questioned that he did not see borings here, I do not know the basis
on which two picks were selected, I do not have any information on how deep they are
or where the ground water table was to be...I cannot tell you if the system is adequately
sized for the intended use.
Mr. McCormack- It is an excellent soil.-it is part of a gravel bank of Glen Lake if you
will...
Mr. Kestner-Why were the facilities not located as indicated on what appears to be an
approved plot plan? In other words, does the reason for this variance because things,
I assume things were not put where they were approved to be put? They were over here,
and they ended up over here, why was that?
Mr. McCormack-Because, this was the original location in which we did as the contractors
not as the developers. Assuming that the property, see this generous cuts in this back
bank of 10 feet to the property line assumed that we could bring them in at that point,
not knowing the utility location at that point, which now goes in this direction here toward
the driveway location, it was selected at that point.
Mr. Kestner-Are the calculations available on how they ended up with two pits? Any
information on the ground water table?
Supervisor Borgos-I don't see them in the information we have here. Did you do any test
pits in that area?
Mr. Kestner-Mr. Supervisor, Dave Hatin from the Building Department has investigated
this, I think it would be appropriate for him to speak.
Dave Hatin-Basically what happened here is that you have a relocation of seepage pits.
When this is brought in, my men will look at the subdivision maps, determine what was
put in that subdivision as far as seepage pits or leach fields. They have tables that they
use to calculate the required flows for the house, then they go back through that table
to see the number of required seepage pits, the size and what have you, that is required.
That is all done by the inspectors. In this case, unless it is a designed system, if it is a
simple residential system, they will do that calculation, make sure it is adequate when
it is brought in on a plot plan. That is how you arrive at these size seepage pits, septic
tanks, and distribution boxes and locations. The basic problem here is the 20 foot set
back from the foundation, again being concerned with it leaching into the foundation wall
at some stage in the future. 19' feet is again a foot away, you also have to consider you
need a 10 feet set back from the property lines here also on these seepage pits. You actually
have 2 set backs you have to deal with here.
Supervisor Borgos-So really in item one of our check list, there are special conditions
or circumstances which this strict application provisions would deprive the applicant of
reasonable use of the land. That particular item seems to be there.
Mr. Hatin-There is room I think to move this system, I have talked to John about it, I
think he can explain to you, how they can resolve this 10 foot separation which seems
to be the most critical, between the foundation and the seepage pit.
Supervisor Borgos-Why couldn't the second pit be moved back closer to the first one?
Councilman Montesi-Are the pits in the ground already?
Mr. Hatin-Yes.
Councilman Montesi-We are talking about moving stuff...either relocating or leaving where
it is.
Mr. McCormack-I think it should be noted that I was given approval.
Supervisor Borgos-Mr. McCormack indicates that he was given approval by Mr. Dean.
Mr. Hatin-I first found out about it by my other inspector, who failed the system for that
10 foot separation. Apparently Mr. Dean went up there and approved it, I found about
it and that is why Mr. McCormack is now here for the variance.
Councilman Montesi-If this board decides that we feel, for whatever reasons, that we
need to have 10 foot separation between the pits and a 20 foot distance from the foundation,
is it possible, within the frame work of this triangle, to do that?
Mr. Hatin-I would hesitate to give an answer on that without sitting down with one of
my inspectors, going through the ordinance and seeing what is and what isn't possible.
I would not want to give a quick decision on this.
Supervisor Borgos-The biggest concern we do have is the leaching into the foundation
wall.
Mr. Hatin-That is the main concern. I called the Health Department, that is their main
concern with the 20 foot separation.
Supervisor Borgos-Would the Health Department approve this at this distance?
Mr. Hatin-No, not at the 10 foot. They stick to the 20 foot, they would not grant a variance
for the 10 foot.
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Mr. McCormack-I think it should be noted that the second pit is over 5 feet below the
foundation.
Supervisor Borgos-Has that been taken into consideration or is that something you and
Mr. Kestner would like to look at?
Mr. Hatin-I have no way of knowing whether it is 5 foot below or not, I haven't seen it
so...
Supervisor Borgos-If it is indeed 5 feet below, and everything is flowing in the other direction,
chances are pretty good it won't go up hill and then climb in 5 feet.
Councilman Montesi-The 5 feet below the foundation, the foundation is 10 or 8 feet...
Mr. McCormack-It is 6 feet.
Councilman Montesi-How high is the pit?
Mr. McCormack-It is hard to tell, it is buried...eight feet.
Councilman Montesi-So we are not really below the foundation, so when it flows... If the
bottom of the pit is 11 feet and it is four feet high. My concern, when you talk about
the pit 5 feet below, and is 8 feet high, so the top of the pit, naturally comes over, so
if it over flows, it comes at foundation level. That is important to know.
Mr. McCormack-This second pit is adjacent to the garage.
Councilman Monahan-You never know if the garage will remain a garage.
Councilman Montesi-Actually the thing that really hurts you more than anything else
was the tree buffer zone, that is the thing that is forcing you to go here.
Mr. McCormack-I would never had buried this pit here if I had not gotten the approval
from Mac, giving me the go ahead to do this. This is one of the problems I have with this
whole variance application. I was given an approval from the Building Department, with
an understanding for a special request, with these set back problems, went over with Mac,
and he gave me the approval to go ahead and bury it.
Supervisor Borgos-Is there grass there already?
Mr. McCormack-The owner is holding off with the landscaping.
Supervisor Borgos-What is the separation required between this pit and this pit, by law?
Mr. McCormick-20 Feet.
Supervisor Borgos-You show here, about 35 feet.
Councilman Potenza-Is the house occupied now?
Mr. McCormack-They were given a temporary CO the 31st of January.
Councilman Monahan-I have question for you Lee, when a Subdivision Plot is approved
by the Planning Board, are the locations of the septic facilities shown on that plot form,
and part of the approval process?
Lee York, Senior Planner-The proposed location of the facilities is supposed to be shown,
yes. -f
Councilman Monahan-Apparently this has been moved, I take it, from the original approval
of what the Planning Board approved?
Mrs. York-I can't really say what Mr. Dean did... There have been field variances and -
changes made in subdivisions where this is not considered a major... it has not in the passed
been considered a major change.
Supervisor Borgos-The overriding concern here is the health and safety of the public.
What is the chance of the sewage affluence getting into the building at some time... and
what possible disease could be involved there.
Councilman Monahan-I think that we don't have enough information. I would suggest that
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we table this, ask Dave and Quentin Kestner to work on this, to comeback to us with
a recommendation after they have gone out and field check this. I would rather them
to this and have a special board meeting if we have to, so we really know what we are
talking about.
Supervisor Borgos-The family is already living there...If we could gain enough information
between now and the next regular meeting, it could be handled at a regular meeting a
presume.
Mr. McCormack-I don't have a problem with that, it is just that much more of an inconvenience
for the landowner.
Councilman Montesi-I am concerned, that it is not a matter of whether we accept or deny
- this, it is whether the State Health Department will approve this and I would hate to be
in the position of accepting this as a variance, have the State of New York say no to the
owner, the developer, and the builder. Dave, you will have to come back to us with a
staff, engineering recommendation that will be acceptable to the Health Department.
Mr. Hatin-I did talk to the Health Department, Brian Feur about this, there basic answer
to me, was that we would become less stringent than the code. Generally, as a standard
practice that involves multi-agencies, the more stringent applies, not the less stringent.
Councilman Montesi-They are living there with a temporary CO, if the Health Department
does not approve this, what does that mean?
Mr. Hatin-I will call the Health Department to reaffirm this, but I believe they told me
they will not approve this.
Councilman Potenza-What is the alternative?
Mr. Hatin-Move the seepage pit. If I have a proposal for the Health Department, with
the move of the seepage pit with the distances and the setbacks, I will go to them with
it.
Supervisor Borgos-Would you and Mr. Kestner meet within the next couple of days with
Mr. McCormack on the site?
Mr. Kestner-I would be happy to.
Supervisor Borgos-Mr. Hatin, could coordinate that visit, and not say yes or no, but look
at the alternatives and then make a recommendation if you would in writing to this Town
Board of Health as soon as possible, at which time we could set another quick meeting.
Understanding from Town Counsel, we will leave the Public Hearing open until such time
as we have further information, and hopefully make a decision.
RESOLUTION TO ADJOURN
RESOLUTION NO. 9, Introduced by Marilyn Potenza who move for its adoption, seconded
by Ronald Montesi.
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of Health hereby adjourn.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Potenza, Mr. Montesi, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Kurosaka
TOWN BOARD MEETING
OPEN FORUM 8:28 P.M.
Frank Labatore, Jenkinsville Road-Questioned what the schedule for completion of the
Ridge Road Park?
Supervisor Borgos-Noted that there has been a number of unforseen problems. Noted
that the area was seeded but the grass did not grow the way it was supposed to, with the
weather this summer being the way it was. In addition to that there are a number of concerns
related to the construction of the park, with the design, erosion and debris. Noted that
the Town Attorney is presently researching all the contract documents with the contractor
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as well as the design, to be sure that things are as they should be, before we accept and
use it as being a completed facility, and lose whatever legal rights that we might have.
That is what is unfortunately holding us up, once those obstacles have been overcome,
I feel you will see things change.
Mr. Labatore-Concerned with the present condition and looks of the Park.
Councilman Monahan-Noted that there was a part of the park that was not part of the
seeded area that is overgrown with Ragweed, and would like to see it mowed down.
Town Counsel-Stated that it would be okay, but recommended that there be extensive
photographs taken of the area before the cutting occurs.
Councilman Montesi-Recommended to Mr. Labatore to attend the next Recreation Commission
meeting. Noted that the Recreation Commission had made some substantial changes
to the original design of the Park, and that LA Associates are now doing a final conceptual
drawing.
Mr. Labatore-Concerned with speed on Jenkinsville Road caused by the Park.
Supervisor Borgos-If you present a form of petition with the lowered speed limit to the
Board, we will go through the normal process to the State and request it.
Councilman Monahan-Concerned with size and speed of the trucks on Jenkinsville Road.
Supervisor Borgos-Would like to discuss that with Paul Naylor.
RESOLUTIONS
RESOLUTION TO AMEND RESOLUTION NO. 1 OF 1988
RESOLUTION 352, Introduced by Marilyn Potenza who moved for its adoption, seconded
by Betty Monahan.
RESOLVED, that the Regular Town Board Meetings of the Town of Rueensbury will be
amended as follows:
1. The Second Tuesday of the Month for September and October will be held at 4:00
P.M. at the Rueensbury Town Office Building, Bay at Haviland Roads, Rueensbury, New
York.
and be it further
RESOLVED, that Regular Meeting of the Town Board held on the Fourth Tuesday of the
month will remain at 7:30 P.M. at the Rueensbury Town Office Building, Bay at Haviland
Roads, Rueensbury, New York.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Potenza, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
Noes: Mr. Montesi
Absent: Mr. Kurosaka
RESOLUTION TO APPROVE MINUTES
RESOLUTION NO. 353, Introduced by Marilyn Potenza who moved for its adoption, seconded
by Betty Monahan.
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Rueensbury hereby approves the Minutes
of July 25th, and July 26th of 1988.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Potenza, Mr. Montesi, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Kurosaka
RESOLUTION TO SCHEDULE PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING PROPOSED AMENDMENTS
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TO ORDINANCE NUMBER 30 AND ITS SUBSEQUENT AMENDMENTS
RESOLUTION NO. 3549 Introduced by Ronald Montesi who moved for its adoption, seconded
by Betty Monahan.
WHEREAS, Ordinance No. 30 of the Town of Queensbury and its amendments dated April
229 1980 and April 24, 1987 provide in Section 4. Subdivision (b) for certain information
to be provided to the Building Inspector and in Section 5. for fees to be charged in connection
with applications for the issuance of building permits, and
WHEREAS, it appears to be appropriate to consider the amendment of said ordinance
to establish or increase certain fees and amend Section 4 Subdivision (b) to provide for
additional documentation to be submitted to the Building Inspector when applying for
a building permit, and
WHEREAS, amendments to said ordinance have been recommended to the Town Board
for consideration as follows:
Section 4. Application for Building Permits, Subdivision (b)
"Application for a building permit shall be made to the Building Inspector on forms provided
by him and shall contain the following information:
1. TWO PLOT PLANS Drawn to scale, showing:
A. Lot boundaries with dimensions and adjacent road(s) or streets(s).
B. All existing and proposed structures, with setbacks from property lines.
C. Location of existing or proposed water lines and septic systems.
2. TWO SETS OF BUILDING PLANS with elevations and sectional drawings, one sectional
drawings, one sectional drawing for each roof line.
3. An application for electrical inspection to one of the electrical inspection companies
permitted by the Town of Queensbury to do the inspections.
4. NEW YORK STATE ENERGY CONSERVATION CODE COMPLIANCE with complete
information.
5. SEPTIC DISPOSAL PERMIT APPLICATION with complete information.
6. FEE, as per schedule below (Checks to "Town of Queensbury").
7. BUILDING & ZONING PERMIT APPLICATION, all portions to be completed.
Applications shall be made by the owner or lessee, or agent of either, or by the architect,
engineer or builder employed in connection with the proposed work. Where such application
is made by a person other than the owner, it shall be accompanied by an affidavit of the
owner or applicant that the proposed work is authorized by the owner and that the applicant
is authorized to make such application.
SECTION 5. Fees
Subdivision (a) Upon filing of an application for a building permit, the following fees shall
be payable:
20 % OF FEE RETAINER FOR ANY WITHDRAWN PERMIT
NO FEE REFUNDABLE AFTER ONE YEAR
ALL CONSTRUCTION SHALL CONFORM TO THE NEW YORK STATE UNIFORM FIRE
PREVENTION AND BUILDING CODE, THE NEW YORK STATE ENERGY CODE AND THE
TOWN OF QUEENSBURY ZONING AND SANITARY SEWAGE ORDINANCES
One/Two Family Dwellings (per 100 Sq/Ft) $12.00 lst Floor
$10.00 per additional floor
Townhouses/Condominiums/Apartments/Multi Dwellings $14.00 1st Floor
Per Dwelling Unit, Per 100 Sq/Ft $12.00 per additional floor
Commercial/Mercantile/Industrial/Public Assembly $15.00 per 100 Sq/Ft
Day Care Centers ($3,000 Maximum Fee) per Floor
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Garages $25.00 One Car
$35.00 Two Car
$50.00 Three Car
$70.00 Four Car
Swimming Pools $35.00 In-Ground
$25.00 Above Ground
Sewage Pits Residential $25.00
Commercial
(other than Single Family) $35.00
Docks $30.00
$50.00 Boathouse/Deck
Addition/Alterations Commercial $10.00 per 100 Sq/Ft
per Floor Residential
$8.00 per 100 Sq/Ft -"
Sign Permits $4.00 per Sq/Ft
$35.00 Minimum
Temporary Sign Permits $35.00 Fee
$50.00 Deposit
Decks/Porches $8.00 per 100 Sq/Ft
$15.00 Minimum Charge
Mobile Home Single Same as One or Two
Modular or Doublewide Family Dwelling
House Moving Permit Before Move $30.00
After Move (If relocated in Town) $50.00
Site Clearing Permit $15.00
Tools & Storage Sheds, Permanent or Portable, $15.00 101-240 Sq/Ft
Wood or Metal (No Charge for Shed under 101 Sq/Ft
Certificate of Occupancy Residential $25.00
Commercial $50.00
Temporary Certificate of Occupancy $100.00 Deposit
(Expiration to be determined by Circumstances $10.00 Fee
Certificate of Compliance and Use $10.00
Expired Permit Renewal (If not Permit Extension) $25.00
Demolition $20.00
Variance Application for Sewage Ordinance $35.00
Subdivision (b) Whenever in the fee schedule provided for herein, the fees are calculated
on the basis of square feet, in determining the total fee due, the floor area of the building
involved will be rounded to the nearest 100 square feet.
Subdivision (c) No building fee shall be refundable except that in the event that a building
permit is applied for and construction does not occur within the first year, 80% of the r
fee paid may be returned by the Director of Building & Code Enforcement, after the submission
of an affidavit by the person securing the permit that no construction has occurred in
accordance with the permit which a refund is requested, and
WHEREAS, a public hearing concerning said proposed new fees or increases in existing
fees is required by law,
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
RESOLVED, that pursuant to Section 130 of the Town Law of the State of New York,
a public hearing shall be held concerning the amendments of the ordinance as set forth
above to amend Section 4. Subdivision (b), to provide for additional documentation to
be submitted to the Building Inspector and to amend Section 5., to establish new fees
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or increase existing fees as set forth above, and that said public hearing be held at 4:00
P.M. in the meeting room of the Town of Queensbury Office Building, Bay and Haviland
Roads, in the Town of Queensbury, Warren County, New York, on September 23rd, 1988,
at which time all persons interested in the subject thereof shall be heard, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Clerk of the Town of Queensbury be authorized and directed
to publish and provide Notice of said Public Hearing in accordance with the law.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Potenza, Mr. Montesi, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Kurosaka
RESOLUTION TO CHANGE MEETING DATE
RESOLUTION NO. 355, Introduced by Ronald Montesi who moved for its adoption, seconded
by Marilyn Potenza.
RESOLVED, that the Regular Town Board Meeting scheduled for Tuesday, September
27th, will be moved to Wednesday, September 28th at 7:30 P.M.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Potenza, Mr. Montesi, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Kurosaka
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CERTIFICATE OF SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION
RESOLUTION NO. 356, Introduced by Ronald Montesi who moved for its adoption, seconded
by Marilyn Potenza.
WHEREAS, Adirondack Construction Corporation pursuant to contract has been constructing
the Queensbury Center for the Town of Queensbury, adjacent to the Town of Queensbury
Office Building, and
WHEREAS, Adirondack Construction Corporation has requested that the Town and the
engineer presently reviewing the project, Rist-Frost Associates, P.C. issue a certificate
of substantial completion in connection with said construction of the Queensbury Center
for the Town of Queensbury, adjacent to the Town of Queensbury Office Building, and
WHEREAS, Rist-Frost Associates, P.C. has advised that the construction of the Queensbury
Center has reached a point where such certificate of substantial completion may be executed
by the Town, subject to completion of items of work outlined in a letter dated August
18, 1988 by Rist-Frost Associates, P.C. to Adirondack Construction Corporation,
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby authorizes the issuance
of a certificate of substantial completion to Adirondack Construction Corporation, subject
to completion of items of work outlined in a letter dated August 18, 1988 by Rist-Frost
t Associates, P.C. to Adirondack Construction Corporation, and
BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor of the Town of Queensbury is hereby authorized
to execute a certificate of substantial completion in the form presented at this meeting
and such certificate shall be issued subject to the condition set forth herein.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Potenza, Mr. Montesi, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
Noes: None
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Absent: Mr. Kurosaka
RESOLUTION INCREASING BI-WEEKLY SALARY
RESOLUTION NO. 357, Introduced by Betty Monahan who moved for its adoption, seconded
by Marilyn Potenza.
RESOLVED, that the bi-weekly salary of Whitney Russell, Assistant Building Inspector,
previously established by Town Board Resolution No. 21, dated January 5, 1988, is increased
such that the bi-weekly salary will result in an annual rate of $19,000 with this increase
being effective immediately and being retroactive to August 1, 1988.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Potenza, Mr. Montesi, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Kurosaka
RESOLUTION TO SCHEDULE PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING THE ADOPTION OF
PROPOSED TOWN OF QUEENSBURY LAND AND SUBDMSION REGULATIONS
RESOLUTION NO. 358, Introduced by Betty Monahan who moved for its adoption, seconded
by Marilyn Potenza.
WHEREAS, proposed new Land and Subdivision Regulations for the Town of Queensbury
have been prepared and presented to the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury for
consideration, and
WHEREAS, said proposed new Town of Queensbury Land and Subdivision Regulations would
result in a number of revisions to the presently existing Land and Subdivision Regulations
and Amendments thereto and repeal said existing regulations and Amendments thereto.
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury, after review and revision of the
proposed new Town of Queensbury Land and Subdivision Regulations, is now desirous of
having said proposed Town of Queensbury Land and Subdivision Regulations as revised,
adopted and the existing Land and Subdivision Regulations and all amendments thereto
repealed, and _
WHEREAS, prior to the adoption of the proposed Town of Queensbury Land and Subdivision
Regulations it is necessary, pursuant to the Town Law of the State of New York, for the
Town Board of the Town of Queensbury to hold a public hearing on the proposed Town
of Queensbury Land and Subdivision Regulations, whereat parties in interest and citizens
shall have an opportunity to be heard, and
WHEREAS, it is necessary to give complete and proper notice of the public hearing to
be held in connection with the proposed new Town of Queensbury Land and Subdivision
Regulations, and
WHEREAS, proposed new Town of Queensbury Land and Subdivision Regulations are worthy
of consideration for legislative action,
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
RESOLVED, that a public hearing be held by the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury,
concerning the adoption of the proposed new Land and Subdivision Regulations for the
entire Town of Queensbury, and the repeal of the existing Land and Subdivision Regulations
and all amendments thereto, and that said public hearing be held at 7:30 P.M. in the meeting
room of the Town of Queensbury Town Office Building, Bay at Haviland Road, Queensbury,
New York, on September 6, 1988, at which time all persons interested in the subject thereof,
concerning the same, will be heard, and
BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED, that the Town Clerk be and is hereby directed to take all necessary action
to cause the publication of a proper notice of said public hearing and to provide all other
notices required by law.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Potenza, Mr. Montesi, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
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Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Kurosaka
RESOLUTION OF APPRECIATION
RESOLUTION NO. 359, Introduced by the entire Town Board.
WHEREAS, the Mohigan Grange number thirteen hundred will celebrate its 75th Anniversary
on September 11, 1988, and
WHEREAS, the Mohigan Grange is composed of families and individuals in the rural community,
and
WHEREAS, the Mohigan Grange has worked for 75 years to improve the quality of rural
life through its community service programs, and
WHEREAS, the family fraternity is dedicated to the concerns of the people and acts as
a voice for better government at all levels, and
WHEREAS, the Mohigan Grange offers programs to all age groups within the community,
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
RESOLVED, that Stephen Borgos, Supervisor of the Town of Rueensbury, hereby proclaim
the week beginning September 11, 1988 and ending September 18, 1988, as MOHIGAN
GRANGE WEEK in support of the fraternity's efforts to improve the quality of rural life
in the Town of Rueensbury.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Potenza, Mr. Montesi, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Kurosaka
RESOLUTION CALLING FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION
RESOLUTION NO. 360, Introduced by Ronald Montesi who moved for its adoption, seconded
by Marilyn Potenza.
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby move into Executive
Session to discuss personal matter and salary, also litigation regarding Keith L. Harris.
Duly adopted by the following vote:
Ayes: Mrs. Potenza, Mr. Montesi, Mrs. Monahan, Mr. Borgos
Noes: None
Absent: Mr. Kurosaka
On motion, the meeting was adjourned.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
DARLEEN M. DOUGHER
TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF QUEENSBURY