2004-10-05 SP MTG46
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SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING MTG. #46
OCTOBER 5, 2004 RES. 495-497
5:20 p.m.
TOWN BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT
SUPERVISOR DANIEL STEC
COUNCILMAN ROGER BOOR
COUNCILMAN THEODORE TURNER
COUNCILMAN JOHN STROUGH
COUNCILMAN TIM BREWER
BUDGET WORKSHOP
Supervisor Stec-The main focus is personnel requests for additional
people or upgrades that are in the budget. Every requested upgrade
or additional person that a department head asked for in the
tentative budget process was included without omission in the
tentative budget. The only remaining positions that did not make it
to the tentative budget was two additional requested positions in the
Community Development Department.
RECREATION DEPARTMENT
Recreation Director Harry Hansen-Requested a new position of
Labor/Motor Equipment Operator light equipment, the Recreation
Commission supports the position. At present there are five
maintenance men, a foreman, mechanic and three laborers, we need
help to take care of the fifteen or so parks and nine hundred acres of
park property that we are responsible to take care of twelve months
a year, with that in mind I am requesting this new position.
Would like to work with the Budget Officer to decide on a salary.
Board agreed to new position.
Reviewed pay for those that work out of title…the union contact
states that if you use a piece of equipment for a period of time you
get extra pay for it.
RESOLUTION CALLING FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION
RESOLUTION NO. 495, 2004
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner WHO MOVED FOR
ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
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Resolved, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby
moves into an Executive Session to discuss performance and possible
pay rate.
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Duly adopted this 10 day of October, 2004 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Boor, Mr. Turner, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION ADJOURNING EXECUTIVE SESSION
RESOLUTION NO. 496, 2004
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Roger Boor WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby
moves out of Executive Session.
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Duly adopted this 10 day of October, 2004 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Boor, Mr. Turner, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
No action was taken in Executive Session
Councilman Strough-Spoke about the condition of the basketball
court at the West End Park –
Director Hansen-It is in a project account.
Councilman Boor-How far are you going to get at Ridge Jenkinsville?
Director Hansen-We have the bid for the design and planning for the
Basketball and Tennis Courts and the Parking lot improvements, they
want to start but it may not be done before the third project is
started. Noted that the fencing has been started.
HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT
Discussion held regarding fleet- Highway Supt. Missita-In Community
Development replace 97’ pickup with pickup Highway Dept.-
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replace Jeep with truck in 2004 eliminate tanker replacing with a
tandem Water Dept. replace 97’ with F-350 truck
Discussed spring and fall clean up … requested two more part timers
18 weeks and two more full timers… discussed compactor lessen
number of trips…
Board agreed to two part timers
Noted 95% of the increase in town highways is in the third and
fourth wards….
Requested two MEO’s described the duties…hiring them in the first
of the year.
Board agreed to two MEO’s
Highway Supt. Missita, noted that with existing funds will purchase
the jeep replacement this year with funds not expended…
Discussed the existing Highway Dept. building if they were to move
the existing offices could be used for Animal Control, Fire Marshal
and let the Planning Dept. expand…
COURT
Town Justice Bob McNally-Spoke to the Board regarding increasing
the two Court Clerk’s salary…requested same rate increase as the
Union is getting….
Board agreed
Noted one of the busiest Courts in New York State…ranking #48.
Brought into the town last year $280,000 in fines …
(Councilman Brewer entered the meeting)
Grade 5 Clerk- 10 years of service, second year of that grade, lost
her over time status looking for $35,000
Board agreed to 10% increase…$34,484.
Pt. Time Clerk-raise to full time overtime exempt and
salaried…$21,840. Board agreed to full time job.
Town Justice McNally-Judiciary law and Town Law each Judge is
entitled to one exempt Town Court Clerk, the Court itself is entitled
to one clerk and one deputy…
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Part Time Court Officer-$12.17 per hr. service rate $20.99 scheduled
for 3.5% increase
Board agreed with changes.
HISTORIAN
Noted the Historian was not present…will discuss at a later date.
BUILDING AND GROUNDS
Discussion regarding upgrade from part time cleaner to full
time…added increase $3,331. Discussed the need for more
maintenance and cleaning work at the Court and at the site on
Sunnyside Road the old Bay Ridge Fire House and catch up work at
the main office.
TOWN CLERK
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Town Clerk requested grade change for 1 Deputy Town Clerk and
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1. Deputy Receiver…from 5 to 6…noted they are topped out at this
time…
Board agreed to change
HISTORIAN
Supervisor Stec-Noted this budget is very small, she had asked for
more time, three days a week, not sure that is needed…we
suggested an increase of a half day… $7,500. she has now noted
that she would like to work two full days at $10,000.
Councilman Strough-She puts in a lot of time with a lot of different
programs all beneficial to the town, a lot of genealogy work and
working with the Chapman and work on the Warren Co. Historical
Society…I would like to see her get $15,000.
Councilman Brewer-I do not feel it is appropriate to triple the salary.
We have a responsibility with the budget and every thing we have
talked about tonight no body said no to anything.
Councilman Turner-The salary is now at $5,100. when she came
here she agreed to a low profile salary no benefit no nothing, if she
agreed to $7,500. that is where she should go.
Councilman Strough-She would like to see $10,000. that would be
fair.
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FIRE AND EMS
Budget Officer Switzer-Noted there is a time line we have to follow by
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State Law, the budget was filed with the Town Clerk on the 27…
Supervisor Stec-Noted that a figure has been placed in the tentative
budget for review.
Budget Officer Switzer-There is still time for you to look at that and
get this number to a realistic number.
Supervisor Stec-We may not have completed negotiations at the time
of the passage of the budget but it would limit how much the
contracts can add up to. We need to get a preliminary amount to the
Fire Companies. Spoke to the Board about going on a less
aggressive approach, it has no vehicle fund..
Budget Officer Switzer-W.G.F. and Qsby. Central their operations
were left at what they currently are. Bay Ridge and North
Queensbury I reduced by fifteen thousand dollars each and South
Queensbury I brought their operations so their total that they would
be receiving is a hundred and twenty thousand dollars.
Councilman Brewer-Didn’t we agree that we wanted to have one
accountant for the fire companies?
Budget Officer Switzer-Yes, and they were all notified of that.
Councilman Brewer-Do we have a number for that?
Budget Officer Switzer-It is not in their budgets it is in our budget
part of that tentative budget I proposed thirty five hundred dollars
per company and for ems. It will be put out to bid.
W.G.F. asked for 512,677.00 that included the vehicle fund and we
proposed 381,732.00 Bay Ridge asked for 376,392. that includes
$40,000 in a restricted vehicle fund No. Qsby. Asked for 320,000
and Qsby. Central asked for 17% increase 546.323. which included a
vehicle fund, South Queensbury asked for 180,000 which included a
vehicle fund.
Supervisor Stec-When you add these up it comes to 1.5 and you add
that into the Workers Comp. And what not it comes in actually pretty
close to what is in the tentative.
Councilman Boor-We were at 1.3 something…
Supervisor Stec-There were several formulas that we tried and they
were coming in within a hundred thousand dollars … I think we owe
it to the departments to get them a draft of the contract and a draft
of the proposed budget. This is what we are looking at for a total
financial package.
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Board agreed to send the total budget to each fire company and ems
squads.
Supervisor Stec-The only thing that is different in what you have
before you tonight is the vehicle fund is gone, we said we are going
to honor their debt and we said we are going to honor your
insurance so those are steady and then the operations is the only
place that we changed. We need to know that we are going to raise
enough in taxes to cover the contracts. Requested that the Budget
Officer send a letter to each of the companies tomorrow…
Budget Officer Switzer-Will hard copy or e-mail the letter that will be
sent to the companies to the Town Board.
LANDFILL
Discussion held regarding the upgrade of employee before retirement
of individual.
Superintendent of Landfill James Coughlin-Reviewed the budget with
the Supervisor everything is fine…in the budget I proposed to make
Keith Sheerer a Working Foreman, I have been here twenty eight
years and never had a working foreman I have done everything
myself. Within the next year I plan on retiring and at that point
someone has to be there to run the operation. My budget is six
hundred thousand dollars and we are taking in over six hundred and
fifty thousand dollars that is a million two hundred thousand that I
am responsible for. Would like to see Mr. Sheerer made a Working
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Foreman by January 1.
Councilman Brewer-Questioned if this can wait until you retire, what
happens when you are on vacation?
Supt. Counghlin-He does just the basics he does not do bills or
anything…he would have more of an incentive if he were paid to be a
working foreman …
Councilman Brewer-But if he knew he was going to be moved up
when you retired to take your job, my problem with the move up is a
union issue. I do not think we should move up without a compelling
reason. I think we should start training them and maybe give the
some kind of a bump but I do not think we have to move them up
two positions. Suggested bumping him up a buck and a half an hour
instead of three?
Supt. Coughlin-Noted that is under Union …
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Supervisor Stec-Questioned his concern do you train a whole year or
train for three months?
Supt. Coughlin-I think this is long over due but I never pursued
it…Mr. Sheerer has been on the job for twenty nine years.
Supervisor Stec- Noted he understood that you are trying to set up
the organization for when you are done and give an incentive for a
guy to learn, I am fine with that the only thing I question is do you
do that a year in advance? Spoke about training for the last four
months before retirement…
Councilman Strough, Boor and Turner agreed to the upgrade…
RESOLUTION ADJOURNING SPECIAL TOWN BOARD
MEETING
RESOLUTION NO. 497.2004
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Roger Boor WHO MOVED FOR ITS
ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Daniel Stec
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby
adjourns its Special Board Meeting.
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Duly adopted this 5 day of October, 2004 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Boor, Mr. Turner, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Respectfully submitted,
Miss Darleen M. Dougher
Town Clerk-Queensbury