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MINUTES of the public hearing of the Town of Queensbury
Zoning Board of Appeals held at the Town Office Building on
April 15, 1970, at 8:00 p.m. There were present:
John Fit~gerald
James Keller
Charles Sicard
George Kurosaka
Allison Ellsworth
being the members of the board,
Because there were no items of business, no March
meeting was held. Minutes of the February meeting were
not acted upon.
Mr. Fitzgerald, the chairman, announced that the first
item on the agenda, Special Permit #18 for TORRINGTON
CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, had been withdrawn and would, therefore,
not be considered at this meeting. There was reaction
from people appearing who were concerned about the request
and they were advised by Mr. Fitzgerald that since the
company had given up their wishes for a variance from the
Zoning Ordinance, as far as the members of the board were
concerned, the matter was a dead issue. Mr. Edward Barrett
questioned the public's being advised of a withdrawal. Mr.
Fitzgerald replied, "Since the request was withdrawn,
there is no issue. They can only use it for a conforming
use."
Further questions from Mrs, John Parsons caused Mr.
Keller to read the applicable section of the ordinance
referring to M-l zoning. Mr. Fitzgerald urged continuance
of the meeting, stating, "The Building Inspector will give
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you (Mr. Barrett, Mrs. Parsons) all the answers at another
time." When asked if he would accept a list of names
petitioning against the request, Mr. Fitzgerald said, "This
case is closed. A new request will be a separate application
with no previous petitions or information on record."
He then read proof of publication for application for
special permit #19 by SKI AND SHORE CORPORATION. 206 Glen
Street. Glens Falls. to construct and operate a gasoline
service station on the property situated at the southwest
corner of Gurney Lane and Route 87. the Northway. in the
Town of Queensbury.
Appearing for the petitioning corporation was Robert
J. Nolan, Esq., 206 Glen Street, Glens Falls, who told the
board the corporation was comprised of three members,
"Thomas Meath, Albert Trudel, and myself." Mr. Nolan told
the board that the 18 acre tract, former county property,
was zoned C-3 by the Town Board on March 26, 1970, and it
was Ski and Shore's wish to use Ii acres for the gasoline
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station and the overall plan was to include 2 additional
acres for construction of a motel and restaurant. The
present request for instant application is for a colonial
style service station. The architect's rendering has been
filed with the Planning Board.
Mr. Keller stated that this board did not have the
rendering but did have the Planning Board's approval.
When Mr. Kurosaka questioned the C-3 zoning, saying,
"It is R-3," Mr. Nolan replied, "Listed under municipal,
this was zoned by your Town Board March 26, 1970, C-3, and
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includes the land between the re-located West Mountain
county road and the Northway, extending down to the lake
which is called Rush Pond and consists of 18 acres. The
instant application does not cover the 18 acres, only It
acres."
Mr. Ellsworth asked if the station would serve just
West Mountain Road and Mr. Nolan answered, "Primarily
Interstate 87, southerly."
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Mr. Keller, "w.h!i/effect of the amendment to the
zoning ordinance adopted on April 9 by the Town Board?"
Mr. Nolan, "The resolution would require written ~onsent
of 60 per cent of the property owners or mortgagees within
200 feet of the site as a pre-requisite for granting a special
permit. Those owners include the County of Warren and Mr.
W, H. Robinson. I contacted him Monday after I received
this notice and am going to ask tonight that the approval
be granted subject to the written consent of the other two
property owners, County and W. H. Robinson."
Mr. Fitzgerald, "Ypu said that your corporation was the
owner of the adjacent property, The outer limits of the
property owned have always been the 'people' involved."
Mr. Keller stated that the abuting property owner on the
south is George Brayton.
When Mr. Fitzgerald asked for any other appearances,
the following stated their disapproval for the record:
Mrs. Lynn LaBarge
W. T. Robinson
Mrs. W. H. Robinson
Dr. Lester C. Huested
Mr. William Tichner
Mrs. Lynch Linkie
Mr. Clifford Lewis
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Mr. Thomas Lawson, "On behalf of the County of Warren,
I am not here to oppose nor consent, since Warren County is
governed by a Board of Supervisors. We have a meeting this
Friday and I would like the opportunity to present it to
the board and consider the new ordinance. I would respectfully
request that the (Zoning Board of Appeals) board not make a
final determination until the supervisors have had time to
consider it."
Mr. William Tichner asked, "I have sat here and listened
to what has been presented. How is it going to be deter-
mined who the bordering property owners are?"
Mr. Fitzgerald, "We are going to have to consider this
during the executive session that will take place after the
applications have been heard. I am afraid that this is a .
legal decision that will have to be made after. In view of
the ordinance, I am governed by the Town Attorney who makes
the determinations as to legal effects of these ordinances.
He will have to make the determination,"
Mr. Tichner, "I am opposed on two grounds - lack of
necessity and esthetic grounds. This is approaching a
strictly residential area with the exception of the infirmary
and I see no reason why there is a need to establish this
sort of a business in that location...,.I am on record as
being opposed for the two reasons mentioned."
After the executive session, the application was referred
to the County Planning Board. This occurred because of a
letter dated March 4, 1970, written by Town Attorney Harold
W. Katz to the Town of Queensbury Planning Board. The letter
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~,In r.sponse· to your request, herewith is my
interpretation of General Municipal Law 239-m.
I The, ~ectiongoverns ,any special permit,use
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pe~it,exception or other special authorization ,which
a board'of'appeals, planning board or legislative body
is authorized to iS8l,1e. under. the provisions ,of a zoning ,
ordinanc~ under the, fOllowing,circumstances:
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1.i . The Coµnty has a planning board. Warren
County! does bave such a board.
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The change of zoning district.classifiea-
tion'applies to real property lying within
a distance of 500 feet from the boundary of
any city , village or to'ft1n. or from the .
bounda~y of ,any' county or state park or
other.: recreation area,' or from the 'right-
of-waý o£any' county or state parkway,
thruWay,'" expressway 'etc.. or from the.
boundary ;0£ any county or state owned land'
onwhic'ba publi~'b':1ilding or institution
.iss1t;uated; and,ålsoto any proposed
sPQcialpermit',or varian~e affecting land
or4builc1ingwithin 500 feet.
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Tn of Queensbury 1'1",,,,,iDg Board -2- March 4, 1970
li<1 ... If a matter. 1>efor~ your board méets the· fore-
.... gø:Lng criteria. .the matter must be referred to the county
·p~anning boardbefore¡your board car, take any action on
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.' ,·i.;; , .'../Within.30· days after receipt.'the county planning
board.must'make its.recotnmendationsand the reasons therefor.
If$uch.areport.isnot made within the 30~day period, your
boa~d·._,. ~ct w1tbout; such report. .
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, ¡ . .' .,If .the countypianning board' disapproves the , ,
proposal or·recommendsmodificat1on. this may. be. overruled
by'amajørity vote:of all of. the members of your board,
mad~' by .resolutionfully setting forth.. the reasons for .
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','. .Theforegoing provisions merely. establish.pro-
cedures for. the. appl1.cation' of'. the powers of your board in
administertngthe zoning,ordit)ance under the conditions
se.t ,forth ·above. Th1.ssection bas limited application. It
doe~ not,contravene,,.ou~powersunder the zoning ordinance.
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Respectfully.
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The next item of business was the announcement of Mr.
Fitzgerald of the proof of publication for "application for
variance #153 by EDWARD A. WARDWELL. DBA UNITED RENT-ALL. for
a variance in the-Ieouired setb.ck from sideline requirements
on the property situated at 684 Upper Glen Street in the
Town of Queensbury.
Appearing on behalf of the application was E. A.
Wardwell who told the board that the State is taking away
their parking facilities in front and it is United Ren~All's
plan to build a new building in back to house RentAll.
Mr. Sicard, "Are they (State) taking any portion of
the building or just the parking lot? You would not have to
move?"
Wardwell, "No."
Appearing in opposition were Pauline Smith, 5 Foster Avenue
and Jean Smith, 7 Foster Avenue, who were concerned with
the removal of the pine trees abutting their backyards.
Mr. Ralph Woodbury, appearing on behalf of the appli-
cation, stated for the record, ".,.,..when you get all done.
,..we will improve the whole area. If he (Wardwell) builds
a building approximate with the other buildings, they
(buildings) are not going to be a detriment to the Town and
I request the approval of this application."
There were no other appearances. The Planning Board
approved the request but in no way did they want the approval
to involve future development.
Mr. Keller, "You are under the assumption the approval
of this application would include a sign?"
Mr. Wardwell, "1 withdrew the application for the sign."
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The Board referred the application to the County
Planning Board.
Mr. Fitzgerald then read proof of publication to
consider application #154 for a variance of JAMES F. VAN
VALKENBURG seeking permission to build closer to the front
property line than is permitted by the zoning requirements
on the property situated on the west side of Brayton Lane
on Assembly Point in the Town of Queensbury.
Appearing on behalf of Mr, Van Valkenburgh was Terry
Van Valkenburgh who told the board they had approval for a
building permit. He said the remodeling would not obstruct
any views and that they had owned the property approximately
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5 or 6 years,
Mr. Kurosaka asked for clarification of the request
to which Mr. Keller replied, "It is the remodeling of an
existing building."
Confusion of the board and questions from Mr. George
Engeman caused Mr. Fitzgerald to re-read the application.
Mr. Keller, "Our present ordinance requires only a
plot plan; construction plans are not required. There was
a misunderstanding of interpret ing the plot plan. Pre-
sently, our ordinance does not require all the information
to be submitted. This was an honest mistake made by the
Building Inspector and he issued a building permit based
on that information."
Mr. Esseling Brayton stated, "I owned the lot next
door and I deeded it to Van Valkenburgh. It is o.k. as
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far as we are concerned."
The Planning Board approved with no comment.
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The Board:
RESOLVED: application for variance #154 by James
F. Van Valkenburgh to remodel the upper floor of an
existing building which would cause the building to
be closer than 7' to the property line be approved
as applied for in that a hardship exists.
Since applications for variances #155A, 155B, and
155C were like requests by BOARDMAN'S LTD. QUEENSBURY
FURNITURE AND FAIRBANK'S FURNITURE. all of Quaker Road,
to seek permission to erect siqns less than the required
50 ft. setback from the property line on the property
situated on the south side of Quaker Road in the Town of
Queensbury, Mr. Fitzgerald read all notices of public hearing
and asked that the board consider all applications at once.
Appearing on behalf of the applications was Robert
Morris, who told the board there are other signs along
Quaker Road closer than 50 ft. to the front line. The
companies do not want their signs back 50 ft. because it
would put them in their parking area.
When Mr. Kurosaka asked about size and shape, Mr.
Morris described them saying they would be conforming signs.
He asked for special consideration of Boardman's request
since they planned to open that weekend. He said, "It
would be more pleasant to the eye to have 3 signs on one
post. All 3 businesses are in the same building. They
could erect signs on separate poles but for pleasing looks,
it would be better to put them all on one,N
There were no appearances for or against.
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Mr. Morris asked if there were any doubts, would the
board please consider each application separately, especially
Boardman's who wished to open on the weekend.
The board referred the applications to the County
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Planning Board.
The final item of business was Mr. Fitzgerald's reading
the proof of publication for application for variance #156
of WAGGAMAN and COLLYER CONTRACTORS. INC. to construct
low-rent apartments in variance of Section 6.902d - arrangement
of buildings, on the property situated on the south side of
Aviation Road. west of 87, the Northway, in the Town of
Queensbury.
Appearing on behalf of the application were John W.
Bishop, vice-president of Waggeman and Collyer and Robert
Tierney, attorney for the International Brotherhood of Pulp,
Sulphite and Paper Makers. Mr. Bishop advised the board that
the request is to eliminate one external wall and the ordin-
ance calls for 2 external walls.
Mr. Bishop, "There are 13 buildings involved in this
project. They are single story buildings and would have 2
exterior exposures. The other 150 units will be in 6
buildings, 2 story. Out of these 150 units, there are 48
conforming. It is the apartments between the ends of the
buildings that do not have 2 exterior exposures. Basically,
we are talking about the bathrooms and kitchens. They are
middle-income rental units, financed Federal Housing Project,
and we want to comply with their requirements."
Mr. Tierney, ".......Jack Bishop has spent considerable
time working with the F.H.A. people working out requirements.
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We have been down the route through the Planning Board and
Zoning Board of Appeals and hope you will approve this request
tonight so that we can get away.....The Brotherhood intends
this as a memorial for the sulphite and paper union....."
Mr. Edward Barrett asked a question regarding low rent.
Mr. Bishop, " $110-$160 per month. Not for the
elderly, but for the middle income."
Mr. Barrett questioned an access road.
Mr. Bishop, "Either Aviation or Dixon. Approximate
location will be determined by the architect who does not
want to chop down all the <¡rees."
Ronald Stanton asked if low rentals for the elderly
is still the same project.
Mr. Keller said, although he had no copy of the
Planning Board's report, he could advise they were in favor
of it.
Before Mr. Keller read the action of the board (from
executive session) Mr. Fitzgerald stated for the record
that he did not participate in this decision.
The Board:
RESOLVED: application for variance #156 by Waggaman
and Collyer Construction, Inc. be approved as applied
for in that the variance is the minimum required for
reasonable use of the land.
In final business, the board approved expansion of two
non-conforming uses, the Earl Maille garage on Connecticut
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Avenue and the Freihofer bakery building on Meadowbrook Road.
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There being no other business to come before the meeting,
upon motion duly made, seconded and carried unanimously,
the meeting was adjourned.
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