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MINUTES of the public hearing of the Town of Queensbury
Zoning Board of Appeals held at the Town Office Building on
December 16, 1970, at 7:30 p.m.
There were present:
John Fit~gerald
Charles Sicard
Charles Hutton
Gordon Streeter
being the members of the board, excepting George Kurosaka
who was absent for this meeting.
On a motion by Gordon Streete~seconded by Charles Sicard,
the minutes were approved as corrected.
In the matter of public hearings, the first item of
business was Mr. Fit~gerald's reading proof of publication
of application for variance #182 by RONALD N. JECKEL REQUESTING
TO CONDUCT A RETAIL COMMERCIAL USE AND WHOLESALE USE IN
CONJUNCTION WITH LIGHT INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING IN AN M...l ZONE
ON THE PROl-'ERTY SITUATED AT 38 EVERTS AVENUE. TOWN OF
QUEENSBURY,
Mr. Fitzgerald, "This matter was before us before; I
am quite sure. The property was formerly lands of Apex
Construction Co., bounded on the east by Everts Avenue,
south by right-of-way of Wise, west by Sears Roebuck &
Co., north by lands of Sauerwald. We gave approval to
expire in 1971 and that is the reason that this is before
us again." "This is an application for a variance. The
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original was an application for a special Permit. Mr. Liapes,
can you help us out?"
Mr. Liapes, "Variance #140 a year ago which was condi-
tional, was treated as a variance. You conditioned special
use as a variance."
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A report from the Planning Board recommended disapproval
to variance not allowed under the zoning ordinance.
Mr. Fit~gerald read the MEMORANDUM from Harold W.
Katz, Counsel to the Town Board, dated November' 18, 1970,
regarding special use. (This memorandum is incorporated at
the end of these minutes.)
Appearing on behalf of the application was attorney,
Philip McIntire who stated, "I would point out that last
year at this time, a special permit was granted based upon
any objections from the neighbors. The company has had
only one objection at one time around 9:00 p.m. A machine
was operating and one of the neighbors called and(they)
stopped it immediately. Checking with Mr. Liapes, the town
made no objections that I know of in the year thaJ they
(Jeckel) have been in operation....I personally have received
no complaints from the neighbors to whom I went last year."
Mr. Fit~gerald, "The decision was that we made this a
one year conditional just to see how it would work out.
Are there any questions from the board? (He explained last
year's action to the new members of the board.) I ask
again, are there any objections to this application?"
Mr. Edward Closson, 8 Patton Drive, asked, "As I
remember, the hours were from 8:00 to 5:00 P.m. When we
gave you the variance, I understood he was going to land-
scape the building and dress it uP. That was part of the
deal."
Mr. McIntire, "Frankly, I have not been behind to
see whether they have or not. I think one of the points
last year was that the property was quite run down when
Mr. Jeckel purchased it. There were abandoned vehicles
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on the property; there was no parking set up; it was gravel.
That was eliminated."
Mr. Streeter, "Mr. Closson, where do you understand
this shrubbery would be?"
Mr. Fit~gerald, "We are looking at a plot plan sub-
mitted by Northern Homes. There is indication of shrubs."
Mr. Closson,"Apex had a fence there and Mr. Jeckel
removed it and said he would dress it all uP."
Mr. McIntire, "I had hoped someone from the corporation
would be here tonight.....They have removed abandoned
material...They do a minor 1/10th of the overall operation
of the business there."
Mr. Closson, "The£e was no problem with noise. I
thought when I came here tonight he was going to ask for
something more."
There were no other objections.
Mr. Hutton, "What are the principa:l hours of operation?
In other words, you will not open in the evening?"
Mr. McIntire, "No, not to the public."
The Board:
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RESOLVED: application for variance #182 by Ronald N.
Jeckel be granted as applied for on a permit basis,
the permit shall expire July 1, 1971, at which time
a new permit may be applied for; provided that land-
scaping be approved by the Town Beautification Com-
mittee and no work will be permitted after 5:00 p.m.
Mr. Fit~gerald then read proof of publication for
application for variance #183 þy WEST MOUNTAIN SALES TO
ERECT A FREE STANDING SIGN 15' FROM THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE
AND A SIGN ON THE FACE OF THE BUILDING, 2' x 44' ON THE
PROPERTY SITUATED AT CORINTH ROAD, TOWN OF QUEENSBURY.
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When Mr. Fitzgerald asked if the sign would be con-
- forming, David Kollar from Judge Sign Corporation, representing
West Mountain Sales, replied, "Yes."
Mr. George Liapes advised the board that free standing
signs are not allowed in that area and that the sign on
the facia of the building is oversized.
Questions from Messrs. Fitzgerald and Streeter caused
Mr. Kollar to state., "There are a total of 4 signs. At
the present, I think there are only 2; the other 2 have been
removed."
There were no other aPpearances.
Mr. Liapes reported that the Planning Board had a
committee of 2 to investigate before they made a decision.
Mr. Sicard, "Is it going to be illuminated or rotating?"
Mr. Kpllar, "Yes, lamps within the sign."
Mr. S~oard cited 6.805 in the zoning ordinance and
Mr. Fitzgerald read it aloud.
The Board:
RESOLVED: application for variance #183 by West
Mountain Sales, Inc. be approved limited to the 2'
x 44' facia sign provided that all except one of the
existing Ford identification signs on the building be
removed. Such approval being in conformity with the
reasonable use of the Property.
Mr. Fitzgerald then read proof of publication for
application for special permit #23 by MOBIL OIL CORPORATION
TO PLACE A GARAGE AND FILLING STATION IN A C-3 ZONE ON THE
PROPERTY SITUATED AT THE T - ! RESTAURANT, INC., LAKE
GEORGE ROAD, TOWN OF QUEENSBURY.
Appearing on behalf of the applicant was Philip McIntire,
attorney. Also appearing was William Frazee from Mobil Oil
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Corporation, who described to the board the Property lines.
He said, "We have N. Y.S. Department of TranspoI'ation approval
already." He submitted a photocopy of this approval.
Mr. Fitzgerald, "Have you discussed this with the
Warren County Highway Department? They are concerned with
some of the signs on the approach to the R.O.W."
Mr. McIntire, "This is still in the Town of Queensbury.
Route 9 is state owned and they have given their consent
for this operation."
Mr. Sicard, "Who is going to operate this station?
Is this going to be leased? What hapPens when this fellow
goes into bankruptcy or moves away? The station on the
corner of Route 9 is now closed. When we aPProved the
variance for that one, we were assured it would not be
abandoned."
Mr. Frazee, "The State came along and cut off our curb
cuts."
Mr. Sicard, "These have been opened again. Would
another station be maintained by Mobil?"
Mr. Fitzgerald, "Do you realize Mr. Frazee that anything
you say is part of the record?"
Mr. Frazee, "I haven't committed myself in any way.
I do not get into market functions. However, you will
see it operating next week. I don't think you will see too
many of our service stations closed."
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Appearing against the application was Richard McLenithan,
attorney, representing Mr. and Mrs. Lybrycky. At this time,
Mr. Fitzgerald, who is a member of the same law firm as Mr.
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McLenithan, excused himself from participating as a board
member and asked Mr. Sicard to act as chairman for the
remaining part of this hearing.
Mr. McLenithan, "Have 6010 consents been filed?"
Mr. McIntire, "No, I was given 4 names, 2 of which I
have their consent and the others are the County of Warren
and Mr. and Mrs. Lybrycky who I am sure will not consent.
The Planning Board recommended approval subject to the
consent of the 60%. After that I went to the County Planning
Board. They are not willing to make a recommendation at
this time until there has been a public hearing. Th~de-
ferred consideration back to the TownZoning Board. The
SuPervisors met last Friday. They did not understand and
deferred any action until they could have a recommendation
from the County Planning Board and also from the Zoning
Board. The County Board of SuPervisors is meeting again
at the end of this week at which time I am going to ask
them for a consent. åt this time, I do not have 6010."
Mr. McLenithan, '~ithout the 60%, I think this should
be tabled and I don't think you (the board) have the proper
requirements in front of you."
Mr. McIntire, "I don't think there is any chance of
getting them."
Mr. McLenithan, "Your problem with the county is that
you need their consent."
Mr. McIntire, "I would ask that they (this board) grant
the request conditioned upon my meeting Friday night with
the County. I do have consents from the other two adjoining
land owners. I would prefer to wait until I have gone to
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the county to get their consent. My request would be that
this be approved. It is simply a request for a special permit
in a zone - zoned for this use. There is difficulty in
this situation getting consent when one of the land owners
is a municipality of the County of Warren. Who can sign
this consent? This requires a resolution of the Board of
Supervisors of the County. They have assured me they will
take it up after a public hearing...... Time is becoIlt. ing a
little crucial....We still have to apply for a building per-
mit....There are other things which we have to go through...
The County Planning Board is having a sPecial meeting to
considerthis because they realize there is a time element
in getting this started...."
When Mr. Streeter asked Mr. McLenithan to explain the
objection, Mr. McLenithan said, "The fact is they are going
to have a Mobil station right next to them and this will
hurt their business."
Mr. Sicard, "Obviously, we cannot do anything until
I see no reason for having another public
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hearing. We will
The Board:
consider it in our executive session."
RESOLVED: application for special Permit #23 by Mobil
Oil CorP. be adjourned until such time that plans are
accompanied by the written consent of 60% or more
in number of the owners and mortgagees of all property
within 300 feet of any portion of the lot or plot
on which said filling station is to be located.
In the matter of old business, on the basis of the
opinion of the county counsel, the Board:
RESOLVED:
Miner for
dismissed
authority
application for variance #179 by William
a mobile home court in an R3 district be
in that the Zoning Board of Appeals has no
to grant such a special use variance.
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There being no other business to come before the
meeting, upon motion duly made, seconded and carried unani-
mously, the meeting was adjourned,
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TELEPHONE: (518) 793.2555
DEPARTMENT
November 18) 1970
MEMORANDUM
FACTS: The applicant) William J. Miner) seeks a use variance
in order to establish and construct a mobile home court in an
R-3 district in the Town of Queensbury. Application for such
a variance has been made to the Zoning Board of Appeals.
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OPINION: Mobile home courts are a permitted special use only
in an R-2 district. They are specifically excluded as a
permitted special use in an R-3 district.
Article 4) Section 4.200 states that Special Uses
as enumerated in the Schedule of Regulations) shall be permitted
only upon authorization by the Board of Appeals pursuant to the
review by the Planning Board) provided that such uses shall be
found by the Board of Appeals to comply with the follow.ing
requirements or other applicable requirements as set forth in
the Zoning Ordinance:
A Special Use shall not cause substantial injury
to the value of other property where it is to be located; shall
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be compatible with adjoining development; shall provide adequate
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landscaping and screening; shall provide off-street parking
and loading so as to minimize interference with traffic on
local streets and shall not jeopardize the public health,
welfare and convenience.
Article 4, Section 4.201 sets forth the guiding
principles and standards for such special uses and these
standards are quite explicit. Section 4.20l(b) in particular
provides that the Board of Appeals shall make a specific
finding, supported by evidence produced at a public hearing in
a manner provided by law, that such use will not be prej udicial
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to the character of the area.
Article 10, Section 10.202 governs the application
by the Board of Appeals of the provisions of the Zoning Ordi-
nance with respect to variances. Section 10.202(a), (b), (c),
(d) and (e) prescribe the standards and criteria to be met in
granting a variance. The primary criterion appears to be that
the applicant must show that there are special circumstances
or conditions applying to such land and not applying generally
to land in the neighborhood, and that such circumstances or
conditions are such that strict application of the provisions
of the Zoning Ordinance would deprive the applicant of the
reasonable use of his land. The foregoing is known as the
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unnecessary hardship standard. It is a broad standard
intended to give the Board of Appeals and Planning Board
broad discretion to relieve landowners where the literal
application of the ordinance caused harsh and unexpected
results.
CONCLUSION:
The Zoning Board of Appeals may grant a use
variance for a Mobile Home Court in an R-2 District provided
the guiding principles and standards of Article 4, Sections
4.200 and 4.201 and Article 10, Section 10.202 are met;
however, it has no authority to grant such a special use
variance for a Mobile Home Court in an R-3 District.
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" LeIDy Phillips, Zoning Enforcement Officer
Very. trùly·yours ,
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Fred Austin, P.E.
Warrén County Supt.