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MINUTES OF the Public hearing of the Zoning Board of
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APPeals of the Town of Queensbury held on December 15, 1971,
at 7:35 P.m.
There were Present:
John Fit~gerald
Charles Hutton
Charles Sicard
George Kurosaka
Gordon Streeter
being the members of the board. On a motion by Mr. Sicard,
seconded by Mr. Streeter, the minutes of the Previous meeting
were aPProved as read.
In the matter of Public hearings, the chairman, Mr.
Fitzgerald, read aPPlication #11M23-71 by WAITE'S CYCLE SHOP
112 LOWER DIX AVENUE, REQUESTING EX~ANSION TO NON-CONFORMING
USE OF AN EXISTING BUILDING 20' x 40' TO BE USED AS STORAGE
FOR MOTORCYCLES, SNOWMOBILES, AND TRAILERS.
APPearing on behalf of the aPPlication was Margaret L.
Waite who exPlained to the board that they needed a Pole
barn to use to store the boxes until they could get them
uncrated. She said all the buildings are used for the one
business and when Mr. Fitzgerald asked how long they had
been in business, rePlied, "30 years." She said anything
built would be 100 ft. from any of the neighbors buildings.
Mr. Fit~gerald read a letter from the Planning Board
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and said this board could not take any action at this meeting
until the Zoning Board of APPeals received an oPinion from
the Town Attorney.
The Board:
RESOLVED; aPPlication #1IM23-71 by Lawrence Hand
Margaret L. Waite, Dix Avenue, Town of Queensbury, for
exPansion of a nonMconforming use be deferred Pending
receiPt of opinion from Town Counsel.
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In the next order of Public hearings, request for
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variance #217 by EAST SHORE DRIVE - ROUTE 9L - MCLAUGHLIN-
GAZELY, Mr. Hutton, the secretary, read letters from the
Town Attorney and J. David Little (attached to these minutes)
and advised the board that the matter had been resolved by
the Town Attorney since in his oPinion (Mr. Katz) no aPProval
of the Planning or Zoning Board of APPeals is required since
the change of use does not require an enlargement, recon-
struction or structural change in the basic building which
houses an existing non-conforming use.
Mr. Fitzgerald then read Proof of Publication of
aPPlication for variance #218 by TORRINGTON CONSTRUCTION
COMP ANY TO EXTRACT SAND AND GRAVEL IN AN R-3 ZONE ADJACENT
TO 'IRE QUEENSBURY LAND FILL. THE SUBJECT .i:'RO..l;'ERTY IS SITUATED
AT RIDGE ROAD, TOWN OF QUEENSBURY.
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APPearing on behalf of the aPPlication were Robert
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Morris, attorney, and Theodore Zol~, Jr., Vice-President
of Torrington Construction ComPany (a civil engineer).
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Mr. Zol~ exPlained to the board that sand and gravel
dePosits have been dePleted in the area, that he was aware
of the zoning restrictions, but that he was requesting a
variance because the land in question is rich in sand and
gravel.
Mr. Sicard asked about ingress and egress. Mr. Morris
exPlained the ownershiP of Torrington and the easements to
the ProPerty. Mr. Morris submitted 9 Pictures which the
secretary (Mr. Hutton) numbered and identified. As Part
of substantiating evidence of ProPosed imProvements are
an affidavit of George SPaulding, Licensed Real Estate Broker,
and an aPPraisal rePort PrePared by North East APPraisals, Inc.
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..I. DAVID LITTLE
ATTORNEY AT LAW
COLVIN BUILDING
208 GLEN STREET
GLENS FALLS. NEW YORK 12801
TELEPHONE 1118 782·2118
December 15, 1971
Zoning Board of Appeals
Town of Queensbury
Town Hall
Bay Road
Glens Falls, New York 12801
Rei Application for Variance by
Moynihan and Lemery-McLoughlin
Property
Gentlemenl
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The undersigned has been contacted by Daniel p.
Rudd who owns the Cleverdale Store at the corner of
Route 9-L and Cleverdale Road in connection with the
above application. We understand Messrs. Lemery and
Moynihan have requested a variance covering the sub-
ject property so as to permit a retail liquor business
in that area.
Mr. Rudd contends that a variance granted by your
board in this case would constitute a hardship as to
him on the basis hereinafter set forth and further con-
tends that there is no hardship in regard to the appli-
cants unless it is self-created, that it would not ob-
serve the spirit of the ordinance but, in fact, work to
defeat it, and that the situation is not unique.
Mr. Rudd purchased the premises he now occupies
which is situated in a commercial zone for commercial
purposes paying a price equivâlent to other commer-
cial property in the town and much higher than a res-
idential zone would have demanded. Among other things
involved is the fact that Mr. Rudd desired and intend-
ed to locate a retail liquor business on his property.
He, in fact, has made an application for a retail
liquor license and for a building permit for the con-
struction of a building for this use in his commerci-
ally zoned property.
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He now finds that Messrs. Lemery and Moynihan
have also applied for a liquor store license and thèt
the State Liquor Authority will not grant two licenses
in so confined an area. Ergo, if the application is
granted by your board, Mr. Rudd will not be receiving
the benefit of his property nor the return on his in-
vestment.
I submit that the foregoing should be considered
in refusing the requested variance.
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QUEENSBURY TOWN OFFICE BUILDING
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BAY AT HAVILAND ROAD, R, D, 1
GLENS FALLS, NEW YORK, 12801
TELEPHONE: (518) 793-2555
DEPARTMENT
December 15, 1971
Hon. Gerald B. Solomon
Supervisor, Town of Queensbury
Town Office Building
Glens Falls, New York 12801
Re: Gaze1ey~cLaugh1in Application
Dear Jerry:
As requested, we have reviewed the application and
facts presented to us by the Building Inspector in the above
referenced matter.
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In all cases involving nonconforming uses, it is
necessary to review all facts and circumstances. After doing
so, it is our opinion that this application does not involve
any extensive physical change in the nonconforming use nor an
expansion thereof. The right of a nonconforming use runs with
the land and the buildings thereon.
It is apparent that the building on the subject
property is a single structure which has been subdivided. It
so existed at the time of enactment of the Town of Queensbury
Zoning Ordinance. Article 8 of said Zoning Ordinance governs
nonconforming uses and buildings. Section 8.200 provides
that "A use, building or structure made nonconforming at the
time of passage of this ordinance, or any applicable amendment
thereto, may be continued, etc.". Section 8.300 prohibits the
enlargement, reconstruction, substitution or structural
alteration of an existing nonconforming use, building or
structure; however, Section 8.302 (b) provides that a
nonconforming use may be changed to a more restrictive
nonconforming use.
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It is my opinion that there has been no abandonment
of the nonconforming use of the building as a whole. It is my
further opinion that no approval of either the Planning Board
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December 15, 1971
or Zoning Board of Appeals is required in this instance since
the change of use toes not require an enlargement, reconstruction
or structural change in the basic building which houses an
existing nonconforming use.
Respectfully
HAROLD W. TZ
HWK:d Town Attorney
cc: Zoning Board of Appeals ~
Planning Board
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Miller and Mannix, P. C.
Building Inspector
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When questioned by Mr. Streeter, Mr. Zol~ said Tor-
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rington was not aware,at the time of their negotiations with
Mr. Johnson, of the Town of Queensbury's interest in the land
for a land-fill. Mr. Zol~ told Mr. Kurosaka that the value
of raw material is 15 to 25 cents a cubiò yard. He told Mr.
Hutton that it was Torrington's Policy to leave a 100 ft.
screen of trees and knock down any dust that might be made
from the excavation.
Mr. Morris asked George L. SPaulding and Robert W.
Leavitt to testify on behalf of Torrington Construction.
Mr. SPaulding told the board that the FHA or VHA would
not finance any develoPment of the area and that any excava-
tion of sand and gravel would not change the character of the
land. Mr. Leavitt described the land and exPlained the ways
of egress and ingress. Mr. Morris submitted an affidavit
from Estella J. Bennett, joint owner of adjoining ProPerty,
stating there was no objection to the granting of said variance
and to the Processing of the gravel.
APPearing in oPPosition were John Austin, Town Councilman,
And SuPervisor Gerald Solomon. Mr. Austin told the board that
the Town Board has long studied the Problem of disPosal of
refuse within the Town and the landfill oPeration has been
the focal subject. He said the Town, more than a year before,
had entered into negotiations with Mr. Johnson, and that he
(Mr. Aust~n) had insPected the ProPerty on several occasions.
He said the Petitioner has created its own hardshiP knowing
full well when the Purchase was made that a variance would
- be required. Mr. Solomon concurred with Mr. Austin.
Mr. Kurosaka asked if the Town planned to cover 4 million
tons of gravel with garbage.
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Also aPPearing against the aPPlication was Mr. Sissone
who asked if Torrington was also contemPlating making concrete..
APPearing on behalf of Torrington was James DemPsey
who said sand and gravel use is enlarging every year and there
is a very strong need for getting the ProPer material.
Mr. Hutton asked if there was some agreement to Provide
Part of the land to the Town of Quensbury.
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Mr. Zoley stated that they had had meetings with the
Town Board and offered outright gifts of Portions of the
ProPerty and have been rebuffed. Mr. Solomon said the
need for land is 5,lO,or 50 years from now....by losing this
land it creates a hardship on all of the PeoPle of the Town
of Queensbury....by losing this land, the Town would lose
access to another 100 acres toward Fort Ann....within ten
years, the Town will have 30,000 PeoPle....if Torrington Paid
$20,000, the Town is willing to buy it from them for $20,000....
there is a resolution on the record now authori~ing Mr.
Solomon to Purchase the land at that Price.
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Mr. Zol-r told the board that Torrington was willing to
give the Town access and the other 2 million tons of dirt for
cover.
The Warren County Planning Board and The Town Board
aPProved the request.
The Board:
RESOLVED: aPPlication for a variance by Torrington
Construction ComPany to extract sand and gravel in an
R-3 ~one adjacent to the Queensbury Landfill be
adjourned until January, 1972, to Permit the board
amPle time to review the submitted material.
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In the final matter of Public hearings, the chairman
read Proof of Publication for variance aPPlication #219
by WEST MOUNTAIN S.ALES TO PLACE AN OVER-SIZED SIGN ON THE
FACE OF BUILDING ON THE kR~ERTY SITUATED AT CORINTH ROAD,
TOWN OF QUEENSBURY.
APPearing on behalf of the aPPlication were Thomas
C. Hardy, Judge Sign CorPoration,and Claude Brandt of West
Mountain, Sales. Mr. Brandt told the board a ground mounted
sign had been refused because of a residential district.
He said they would like a 6 x 6 illuminated sign mounted to
the building. He submitted a Picture of the ProPosed sign
to the board.
Mr. Kurosaka stated that this sign does conform and
Mr. Fit~gerald recalled the board's Previous ruling that
West Mountain remove the other two signs~ and said West
Mountain could not erect and/or take down signs Piecemeal.
The Board had aPProved a non-conforming sign (facia) at a
Previous meeting.
Walter SPringer aPPeared on behalf of the aPPlication
The Board:
RESOLVED: aPPlication #219 by West MountainSales,
to place an over-sized sign on the face of building
on the ProPerty situated at Corinth Road be deferred
Pending the receipt of an oPinion by Town Counsel.
There being no further business to come before the board,
on a motion by Mr. Streeter, seconded by Mr. Sicard, the
meeting was adjourned at 10:25 P.m.
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