1982-08-18
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MINUTES
Queensbury Zoning Board of Appeals
Wednesday, August 18, 1982 7:30 p.m.
Present:
Kirkham Cornwell, Chairman
Theodore Turner, Secretary
Susan Goetz
Charles Sicard
Sjoerdje Richardson
Absent:
Daniel Griffin
R. Case Prime
The minutes of the July 21, 1982 meeting were approved unanimously
on a motion of Mr. Sicard, seconded by Mr. Turner after the following
addition. Mrs. Goetz asked that reasons for or against a motion be
included with each variance application. Under Variance No. 768
Mrs. Goetz moved approval because of unnecessary hardship had been
established, in the present economic climate it is not likely that
a building of that size would be purchased and that it was not det-
rimental to the neighborhood character.
INTERPRETATION NO. 13 - Aviation Imports/Placid Foreign Auto Inc.
2 Aviation Road PC-1A Zone
Mayan automotive sale business be operated in a PC Zone under a
Site Plan Review Approval by the Planning Board. The automotive
sale would be an adjunct to the permissab1e automotive repair already
being conducted.
Mr. Martin Morrell present. ~1r. Cornwell stated that the only place
automobile sales is allowed is under Highway Commercial. Mrs. Rich-
ardson said that one of the things to be considered under Plaza
Commercial is "aesthetically pleasing shopping environment". It was
the general feeling OD the Board that automobile sales would not fall
under Site Plan Review but would require a variance. The previous
owner had a Special Permit which expired after one year allowing auto
sales. The Special Permit allowing auto repair had no stipulations,
therefore it may continue. Mrs. Goetz offered a motion that the
automobile dealership is not allowed in Plaza Commercial under Site
Plan Review, seconded by Mr. Sicard. The motion carried unanimously.
OLD BUSINESS:
VARIANCE NO. 767 - Edward P. Foy, west side Bay Road - UR-5 Zone
To operate a restaurant in an existing building in a UR-5 Zone.
Mr. Larry Fox, Esq. representing Dr. Morrison, owner of the property
who would like to rent to Mr. Foy. Mr. Michael O'Connor, Esq.
representing the opponents of this application objected to Mr. Fox
speaking on behalf of Dr. Morrison. Mr. Cornwell asked ~~r. O'Connor
if he had ever spoken on behalf of his client Carswell Truck. Mr.
O'Connor said yes, he is also an officer of that corporation. Mr.
Rolf Ronning, Esq. representing Mr. Foy stated that he and Mr. Fox
were co-counsel in this matter and that Mr. Fox is representing
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Mr. Foy as well as Dr. Morrison. Mr. Ronning directed Mr. Fox to
speak on behalf of Mr. Foy. Mr. O'Connor stated his objection to
Mr. Fox presenting evidence. Mr. Ronning wants Mr. Fox's testimony
to be considered evidence.
Mr. Fox presented documents to the Board supporting his case for
hardship: Estimate of renovation to two family dwelling from Mr.
Ruggles, builder ($52,000.00) - Rental appraisal from Mr. Mellon,
Realtor (about $800.00 per month maximum)- unofficial minutes from
Town Board meeting of August 10 ..."the Town Board was not denying
the zoning change on the basis of use of existing building...".
Mr. Fox stated that the residential rent on $172,000.00 worth of
property (purchase price $120,000.00 plus renovation) is far in ex-
cess of the $800.00 per month the property would return. Mr. Fox
traced the history of the parcel, noting that the property across
the street is zoned HC-15 and the buildings to the left and right
of this parcel are under variances. Mr. Ruggles and Mr. Mellon an-
swered questions of the Board and Mr. O'Connor. Mr. Ronning noted
that the building was built specifically as a veterinary hospital,
is now in a residential zone but no veterinarian is interested in
moving there.
Dr. Morrison described the terms of the lease to the Board. Mr.
Foy will pay $1250.00 per month on a net, net basis. All the ex-
penses of the building (heat, taxes) are his. This gives Dr. Mor-
rison a profit over the mortga~e payment. Dr. Morrison feels that
as a commercial building it is a viable building. There is an in-
crease in the rent over the course of the next two years with an
option to buy. Mr. O'Connor questioned Dr. Morrison regarding his
purchase of the building. Dr. Þ1orrison stated that the mortgage
was held by the Small Business Administration as a commercial build-
ing. The zoning was under a variance. Mr. O'Connor stated he was
trying to prove that this was a self-created hardship. He said
Dr. Morrison purchased the property in November of 1981 knowing the
restrictions that were placed upon the property. Mr. O'Connor feels
that they have to live within the zoning with which they purchased,
they are not entitled to corne and claim hardship that they themselves
created. He stated it was poor investment judgment. Dr. Morrison
stated that the property was split when he bought it. Now that it
is zoned residential, with an existing commercial building in the
zone, he feels it could easily be given a variance for a reasonable
commercial use. The use for a restaurant is not offensive to the
surrounding neighborhood. Mr. Frate from the Small Business Admin-
istration testified that when they loaned the money for the veter-
inary hospital, as far as they knew it was supposed to be zoned
commercial, that is why they lent the money. In that same area they
(SBA) have several other loans and if they go down they will have a
piece of property that will not be paying taxes. The Federal
Government doesn't pay taxes. Mr. Frate stated that the SBA had
other interest in the property for commercial uses basically.
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Dr. Morrison stated that he sought legal counsel before purchasing
the building - that there was reasonable expectation considering
the commercial nature of the area that zoning would not be a problem.
Dr. Morrison asked to point out for the record that when Dr. Haviland
requested the zoning variance, Mr. Philip Hart (represented by Mr.
O'Connor) supported the request for a commercial use. Mr. O'Connor
reiterated that the consent was for a veterinary hospital.
Mr. O'Connor expressed Mr. Singleton's concern about noise from the
restaurant. He also expressed concern that the Town had adopted a
new zoning ordinance and that the Zoning Board was spot-zoning it
away. He does not believe that the parcel in question is unique
from the parcels adjoining.
Mr. Foy spoke on behalf of his application. For a buffer zone he
will have access on the south side of the building and will event-
ually put shrubs on the north side. Restaurant will be family
style, sign similar to LogJam. Parking for 25 cars, not a takeout
restaurant. He will have a liquor license, hours of operation could
possibly by from 7 a.m. to 4 a.m. He might have small entertain-
ment, ego folk singer or guitar player. It will definitely be
mellow.
Con~iderable Board discussion regarding "family restaurant". It is
difficult to define but the Board feels strongly that restaurant
should remain a family restaurant as opposed to a noisy, bar type
atmosphere. Mrs. Richardson stated the consensus of the Board in
that they did approve a variance for a commercial building under
the old ordinance creating the present hardship (due to failure
of veterinary hospital). The property was purchased by Dr. Morrison
under the old variance (split zone). Mr. Sicard stated that the
building cannot be recycled without an excess amount of money, more
than the building is worth.
The Town and County Planning Boards recommended approval. Motion
by Mr. Sicard, seconded by Mrs. Richardson to grant approval with
stipulations. Motion carried unanimously.
RESOLVED: The Board is of the opinion that such
variance be approved with the following restrictions:
1. Access to parking lot on south side. No access
road on north side of building.
2. Building will remain a restaurant for the life of
the variance.
Requirements for hardship: previous variance granted
and property bought under previous granted variance.
Zone change did not impose self-imposed hard~hip.
Hardship created by split-zone.
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VARIANCE NO. 770 - Flora and James Ingalls Cleverdale
Withdrawn
NEW BUSINESS:
VARIANCE NO. 776 - John W. Crosse, Jr. Mallory Avenue, UR-lO
To use one bay of garage for mail order accessory - automotive.
Mr. Crosse present. Mr. Crosse has been operating from this location
for four years. Mr. Crosse was not aware that he must apply for
variance. There is no installation, limited inventory, no intention
to expand at that location. Deliveries are made by uPS. Ninty
per cent of his business is in Warren County. Mr. Singleton, neighbor,
appeared on Mr. Crosse's behalf.
The Town Planning Board recommended approval of variance.
to approve offered by Mr. Turner, seconded by Mr. Sicard.
carried unanimously.
Motion
Motion
RESOLVED: The Board is of the opinion that
such variance be approved. Character of
neighborhood prevents the true value of the
property from being acquired.
1. No sign except mailbox.
2. Variance granted for life of applicant.
3. Auto parts and accessories only.
VARIANCE NO. 777 - Benjamin L. Aronson, 64 Main Street HC-lS
Operation of a pre-packaged meat, cheese and other pre-packaged food
wholesale business requiring addition of 80' x 64'.
Mr. Wilson Mathias, Esq. representing Mr. Aronson. Mr. Mathias pre-
sented pictures of proposed addition and stressed that there is no
processing involved. Mr. Mathias pointed out that, except for an
occasional retail sale, the business is strictly a wholesale busi-
ness. The property is presently in a mortgage foreclosure action.
Building is vacant, has been on market since 1972. Discussion en-
sued on type of operation, traffic, etc.
The Town and County Planning Boards recommended approval
variance. The Beautification Committee also recommended
Motion by Mr. Sicard, seconded by Mr. Turner to approve.
carried unanimously.
of this
approval.
Motion
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RESOLVED: The Board granted this use variance
with 80' x 64' addition and loading dock 36' x
16' for the following reasons:
1. Building on market for ten years at market
price with no result in sale.
2. Many uses for highway commercial, but build-
ing has not sold for those uses.
3. The use of the property is reasonable and
will not change the character of neighborhood.
4. The use can be considered retail as well as
wholesale business.
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