1982-09-15
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MINUTES
Queensbury Zoning Board of Appeals
~ Wednesday, September 15, 1982 7:30 P.M.
Present: Kirkham Cornwell, Chairman
Charles Sicard, Acting Secretary
Susan Goetz
Daniel Griffin
R. Case Prime
Absent: Theodore Turner
Sjoerdje Richardson
The September meeting of the Queensbury Zoning Board of Appeals
was called to order by Chairman Kirkham Cornwell.
The minutes of the August 18, 1982 meeting were approved unanimously
on a motion by Mrs. Goetz, seconded by Hr. Sicard.
VARIANCE NO. 778 - The Wood Carte (Kelly Carte)
Northway Plaza, Route 9
Kelly Carte was represented by his brother, Lindsey Carte.
Mr. Carte explained that the operation would be mostly retail. Most
of the materials will be in kit form and assembled. Approximately
75% of the operation would be retail and 25% manufacturing or
assembling. There will be a table saw and the usual tools used in
a home workshop and they will sell both unfinished and the finished
materials.
The Chairman asked Mr. Carte where the deliveries would be made
and would there be raw lumber on the site. He also asked as to
who w rold be doing the assembling.
Mr. Carte answered that there would be approximately 4 - 500 board
feet at the most on the site but would all be on the inside. The
building has fire walls and there will be no noise to speak of.
The door to the rear of the building would be used to bring in the
raw material and that he himself would be doing most of the
assembling with his wife and brother working out front selling the
merchandise.
There was no one present either for or in opposition of the applicant.
Queensbury Planning Board recommended approval based on the following:
No problem with noise
Workshop separate from building
75% retail 25% manufacturing
Retail nature of store front will be maintained.
Warren County Planning Board also approved the application.
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Motion to approve Variance No. 778 moved by Mr. Sicard, seconded
by Mr. Griffin, all members voting affirmatively.
RESOLVED: The Queensbury Zoning Board of Appeals hereby does
concur with the decisions from both the Town Planning Board
and the Warren County Planning Board and approves Variance
No. 778. This also meets the necessary requirements of the
Town.
Approved.
VARIANCE NO. 779 - Dental Health Center - WITHDRAWN
VARIANCE NO. 780 - Arnold M. Alkes
108 Main Street, corner Ryan Ave.
Application for Area Variance - Application was in two (2) parts.
He needs an area variance for an addition to the rear of the present
building and also wants to put a canopy across the front of the
building 7~' and a aign on pre existing sign slab.
The Chairman noted at this time that this was the second time Mr.
Alkes has come before the Board for approval of an expansion to
his building.
Mr. Alkes explained what had been done previously and why he needs
this new addition. The reason being that his actual needs in the
business have changed. He would like to buildkup more of a retail
business than he has at this time. He has no present facilities
to keep stock. Squaring off the building would make adequate
space for his finished products. At this time his materials are
being stored in his garage at home. He also explained the need for
the sign. It was stated by Mr. Alkes that he wanted a larger sign
on the present slab. If that isn't possible he would like to hang
it on the building facing out, just something to draw a little
more attention to his store.
Mr. Griffin next questioned Mr. Alkes on why he needed the 7~'
canopy.
Mr. Alkes mentioned mainly a drainage ~roblem in front of his en-
trance and he felt also that it wouldn t interfere with his parting
faci~ities.
Much discussion next revolved around the size of the proposed
aanopy and exactly how much parking would be taken away and also
the hazard of bakking onto a highway.
Chairman noted that one of the responsibilities of the Zoning Board
is considering whether public facilities are being affected by any
changesmjghtmight be making. The setback here is very important.
Thirty-eight foot (38') set back here is not much but when you
consider giving up 7~ of it it creates a problem at this particular
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location. He then opened the meeting to the public. There not
being anyone there either for or against this application, the
public meeting was closed.
Acting Secretary Sicard read the Town and County Planning Boards
recomrnendation.anBoth Boards approved the squaring off of the building
and the 7~' canopy but disapproved the sign request.
Motion to approve the various requests of Variance No. 780 was
moved by Mr. Griffin, seconded by Mrs. Gaetz as follows:
A.
The expansion of current building
B.
All voting affirmatively.
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A~gue~nlfof åi~~øGuesgn by disapproved.
All voting affirmatively.
C. Request for 7~' canopy on the front of the building
be disapproved. There has been no practical difficulty
shown.
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Yes votes - Mrs. Goetz and Mr. Cornwell
No votes - Mr.'Griffin, Mr. Sicard, Mr. Prime
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RESOLVED: The Queensbur~~~oning Board of Appeals hereby
grants an area variance-for an addition to the rear of the
present building and a 7~' canopy on the front of the building.
The Board hereayydenies request for a free standing sign.
Approved.
VARIANCE NO. 781 - Lorraine Ruffing
Bay Parkway, Assembly ~oint
Mr. John Matthews represented Mrs. Ruffing. She would like to
replace existing seasonal dwelling with new year-round home
with less than the required 75' setback from the Lake.inThis is
an area variance request.
Mr. Matthews explained the problems with the existing structure.
Chairman read description of dwelling and its placement on the lot.
Meeting opened to the public - no one present for or against re-
quest.
Acting Secretary read that both Planning Boards approved and also
the Adirondack Park Agency approved the plan.
Motion to approve Variance 781 moved by Mrs. Goetz, seconded by
Mr. Prime, all voting affirmatively.
RESOLVED: The Queensbury Zoning Board of Appeals hereby
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approves Variance No. 781 as the practical difficulty
has been established and there will be no adverse effect
an the neighborhood.
Approved.
VARIANCE NO. 782 - Placid Foreign Auto, Inc.
dba Aviation Imports
Aviation Road
Use Variance
To operate automobile sales agency in conjunction with existing
automobile repair service. Mr. Martin Morrell represented
Aviation Imports.
Chairman asked if the area in question would also become a used
car or new car lot.
Mr. Morrell explained their deal at the present time with a
Volkswagan dealership which would allow them so many cars at a
time for display and possible sale. Eventually maybe they would
have a larger line of credit which would mean a few more cars.
This is not in the near future.
There was some discussion about security lights and it was determined
that string lights are not being used at this time. They do havw
a few spot lights for security purposes at night.
The question of where parking would be established for the vehicles
was discussed. Mr. Morrell showed the area on a map where parking
would be for approximately 12 cars in addition to customer parking
of vehicles. Also the question of wrecked vehicles and junk cars
was discussed and it was noted that no cars woulddbe stored on the
lot that are classed as junk vehicles.
Mr. Prime asked how long the operation has been in the building and
if their basic line of business was repair work.
Mr. Morrell answered that it was their intent from the beginning and
as a part of their SBA applications to sell used vehicles. It was
their understanding that Rent-A-Wreck had done this in the past
and they Eelt they could also sell cars. He mentioned they were
not aware that they did not have permission for this type of operation.
They hope to sell two vehicles the first month, 2 or 3 the second
and then average off at perhaps 4 sales a month to supplement their
repair business. He said they had an 'out' in their lease so that
if they could not obtain the required permits to conduct this type
of business they would be releaved and leave the premises.
Signs were also discussed with Mr. Morrell saying the signs will be
as they are now.
Chairman opened the meeting to the public.
Gary Brown, 4 Old Aviation Road and Dorothy Hall also of Aviation
Road spoke in opposition but it was determined that their particular
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problem was not against the applicant before the Board at this
meeting but rather with the owner of the Plaza itself. They were
advised to contact the building department and makè formal complaints.
Mr. David Macker, General Manager of the Aviation Mall was concerned
about the aesthetic view and that the property would" be maintained
as the Mall is maintained.
Mr. Lanfear, owner of property immediately west, also voiced his
opinions why he was not in favor of the variance.
Mr. Morrell interjected here that for as long as they are located
in the building they will endeavor to be good neighbors. They had
intended to leave security lights on all night long facing down
onto the building, but if there is a problem with that, they would
be willing to make adjustments. The hours presently are 8 A.M. to
6 P.M. and will not change in the immediate future. They have
oonsidered, depending on how sales go, of extending the evening
hours until 8 P.M. They do not plan on being open on Sunday.
The Secretary read the recommendation of the Queensbury Planning
Board which approved the variance. Warren County Planning Board
also approved the request.
Motion to approve Variance 782 was moved by Mr. Sicard, seconded
by Mr. Griffin, all voting affirmatively.
RESOLVED: The Queensbury Zoning Board of Appeals hereby
appro~prVaEiatißriance No. 782.in concurrence with the Queensbury
Planning Board and the Warren County Planning Board and that
átlmeets all necessary requirements.
approved.
VARIANCE NO. 783 - Mr. & Mrs. Richard Staffield
Rockhurst Road
To place an addition to existing dwelling with setbacks that do
not meet Town requirements.
Mr. & Mrs. Staffield were present and were represented by John
Mason.
Concern of the board was for the present congestion in the immediate
area, camps all built on small lots. Mr. Mason was asked what
size addition was being planned and Mr. Mason said he had no formal
plans as yet but wanted to hear what the members of this board had
to say about any request at all. He said that with the current
rules in therŒown no addition could be placed anywhere on this
lot without a variance granted by this Board. All the Staffield's
want to do is get a little more living space.
Mr. Prime noted here that the Staffield's have to give them something
to work with in order for the Board to make a judgment for or against.
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The obligation of the board is not to render an oplnlon on what
they should have, the obligation is to pass on the rightfulness
of any requested variance.
Mr. Mason added that both the Queensbury and ~ownty Planning
Board agreed that a 12 ft. addition could be added to this dwelling.
The Staffields will accept anything you would allow but they can't
do anything at all without a variance from this Board.
Chairman noted that a hardship had to be prvven which possibly
could be the size of the lots in the area.
Alternatives such as building up on the building were discussed
and moving the deck but the appEaaance from the lake would be
changed.
Mr. Mason next gave several letters to the Board from neighbors
in the area. None of the neighbors they reached personally had
any objections to this addition.
Mr. Sicard interjected that there was also a letter from the APA.
At this point he read the recommendations of both planning boards.
Mrs. Goetz asked Mr. Mason if he was asking for what the Planning
Board had recommended.
Mr. Mason said the Staffield's would take anything they could then
he could begin to do his design work. The 12' mentioned by the
Planning board would be more than what they have now.
The meeting was next opened to the public, no one was present in
opposition of the request.
Motion by Mr. Griffin, seconded by Mrs. Goetz to approve the area
variance No. 783 with the following revisions:
RESOLVED: Variance No. 783 is hereby approved with the
following revisions: 12' addition to North side of building;
said 12' addition to be in line with front of existing dwelling
nothing to be built over existing concrete patio on front of
dwelling. The Zoning Board feels this is a reasonable size
addition and reasonable distance from property lines.
Yes votes - Goetz, Griffin, Sicard and Prime
No votes - Cornwell
Approved.
VARIANCE NO. 784 - Albert Simidian and Grace Koshgarian - WITHDRAWN
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VARIANCE NO. 785 - Donald W. Rozell, Jr.
Mason Road
Cleverdale, NY
Mr. Rozell was present but was represented by Attorney Paul
Pontiff.
Mr. Pontiff said Mr. Rozell was applying for an area variance to
relocate a small building from its present site on the lot to
the center of the lot with 50 ft. setback from Lake George in lieu
of the required 75 ft. He also mentioned that Mr. Rozell would
only be using this as a fishing and hunting camp.
Chairman Cornwell asked if Mr. Rozell was planning to put plumbing
etc. into the building and then selling it as a separate entity.
Mr. Pontiff answered that it was not proposed at this point. He
wants to use it on a temporary basis for himself. If he were to
place the cabin elsewhere on the lot to comply with setback re-
quirements, it would result in destroying a clump of trees.
The major concern of the board members was possible future plans
to build a larger building. At that time though he would then again
have to come before the Board. Also some concern revolved abound
the language on application. Applications reads single family
residential dwelling. It was suggested that it be changed to
hunting and fishing cabin.
Mr. Pontiff agreed to the change in language.
Chairman opened the meeting to the public.
Martha Mayer, Cleverdale, NY appeared against application. She
was concerned about the size of the building and feared that
something of a larger size would be built later on a very small
piece of property.
Chairman noted that the only thing before the board tonight was
moving the present house and not cutting down any more trees than
necessary. The practical difficulty would be having to cut the
trees down.
Mr. Sicard mentioned that the Town Planning Board and County Planning
Board both approved the application.
At this point the petition was amended to read 300 ft. cabin moved
to a new site a total of 50 ft. from the lake.
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Motion to Approve Variance No. 78& was moved by Mr. Sicard,
keconded by Mr. Griffin, all voting affirmatively.
RESOLVED: Variance No. 785 hereby approved for relocation
of 300 sq.ft. cabin to new location with 50 ft. setback
from Lake George with trees being the practical difficulty.
approved.
VARIANCE NO. 786 - Boulevard Auto Sales
1 Boulevard
Use Variance
Boulevard Auto Sales represented by Mr. Thomas Marzo1a, Real
Estate agent at time of sale.
Mr. Marzo1a stated that the owners did not know they needed
permission to sell vehicles. He mentioned the only restriction
on that property when it was purchased was that they could not
sell gas. He mentioned that because of the area there isn't
much that could be done with this building.
Mr. Sicard mentioned that the Planning Board recommended approval.
Motion to approve Variance No. 786 moved by Mr. Prime, seconded
by Mr. Sicard, all voting affirmatively.
RESOLVED: Variance No. 786 be approved as the lot cannot be
used for Heavy Industry and this use is the most reasonable
use for property and the lot cannot be used for resale of
heavy equipment.
approved.
There being no further business to come before the board at this
time, Mr. Prime moved to adjourn with a second by Mr. Sœcard
all voting affirmatively, the meeting adjourned at 11:04 P.M.
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