1982-10-20
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MINUTES
Queensbury Zoning Board of Appeals
Wednesday, October 20, 1982 7:30 P.M.
Present: Kirkham Cornwell, Chairman
Theodore Turner, Secretary
Susan Goetz
Daniel Griffin
Charles Siccard
R. Case Prime
Absent: Sjoerdje Richardson
The October meeting of the Queensbury Zoninq Board 0': l1p:wé'1~;
\flaS called to order by ChEc.1 rnan
Cha.irroan Cornwell asked at: this time for a motion to approve
the minutes of the meeting conducted September IS, 1982.
Mrs. Goet~ pointed out that Variance 780 "B" should read in
the resolution AS REQUESTED - free standing sign be disapproved.
Also the actual resolution should read RESOLVED: The Queensbury
Zoning Board of Appeals hereby grants an area variance as applied
for in application for an addition to the rear of the present
building and a 7 1/2' canopy on the front of the building.
Mrs. Goetz also asked for clarification of wording on Variance
785.
Motion by Mr. Sicard to approve the minute of the September
meetin<J wi'ch the appt"opria te corrections, seconded by Hrs. C;oetz_
Voting as follows: Yes - Goetz, Griffin, Cornwell, Sicard and
Prime
No - None
Abstain - Turner
The first item on the agenda was an interpretation - NPSC Corp.
Northway Plaza, Route 9 - The Corporation was represented by
At.torney Kafin.
Mr. Kafin explained that he was representing the new owners of
the Northway Plaza Shopping Center. They are undertaking a
program of renovation of ~he center including the repaving and a
variety of other changes in the center itself but not the con-
struction of any new buildings or the demoli~ion or reconfiguration
of the site. Their main concern is getting it into a situation
where i tcan be rented completely once again. It is the owner's
intention to change the mix of use within the center. It has
been predominantly retail with a mixture of other uses including
office. When completed it is expencted to have a center that is
part retail, restaurant, office etc. Their main concern is that
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each time a tenant is attracted to them and alterations are
required for the premises, a building permit has to be
applied for. In looking this over with the Building Inspector
the question came up as to whether or not the change in the over-
all mixed occupancy was something that would require a site-plan
review by the Planning Board. We have come here to explain that
since there is no reatl change in the buildings themselves and that
all the proposed uses are permitted uses, the mere change in the
mix shouldn't require any site-plan review. Applications for
building permits would be sufficient to make sure that the Town
reviews any alteration plans that are proposed. The interpretation
that they are looking for here is that no site-plan would be
required for a change in the mix of use.
Chairman asked if the Corporation was claiming that there is
pre-existing use as offic space now.
Mr. Kafin said there have been several offices in the past, he
mentioned the recruiting office and several others. He then
introduced Mr. S2anson, W. L. Christopher, Inc.
Mr. Swanson explained how the Montgomery Ward building was pre-
viously used in that it was both retail and office or mixed use
such as warehouse space.
Mr. Kafin again asked that if these are all permitted uses, the
question wru.ld be can you get just the building permit for the
alterations or if no alterations are needed, can the tenant move
in without a site-plan review.
Mr. Prime had some concern regarding the parking areas including
the ingress and egress of the areas involved.
Mr. Kafin explained that in a predominately retail plaza you
would have the highest movement of people, when you go in the
direction this owner is planning from the retail use to a US2
of greater office space you would reduce the amount of tra.ffic
in and 011 t..
Mr. Prime then asked if this change of traffic flow and p~destrjan
patt-:ern woulàn' t then trigger a site-plan review.
Mr. S~anson interjected a few [acts such as the ingress and egress
situa~ion is now ~ontro]led by the State. There is sufficient
road capacity and the parking consIderation required will continue
to be observed. To have to come before the site-plan situation
every time an office is rented is time consuming. 'rhe property is
there, the buidings are there, to have to every time a tenant
changes or alterations need to be made have a review is also expensive.
There is no real impact on the elements that would make this
necessary.
Chairman noted that he would entertain a motion that because they
are adding one new use, added by amendment to the ordinance, that
with one site-plan review the Planning Board could outline or give
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any misgivings they may have regarding the change. They could
give a blanket site-plan review covering the whole sii~e as it
now exists. 'I'hey would cover the whole deal at once and list
all the uses that would be permitted.
Mr. Kafin added that everything that they are planning to have
theLe häs been there before, the question came up in ~lr. Lynn's
office of the change of use.
Mrs. Goetz mentioned that she thought they were 'stretching' it
when they said there has been a lot of office use there in the
past. She also said that she could see in the future some parking
problems. If there are to be any problems, the Planning Board -
Site-review would pick this up. She also said that people working
in an office will park closest to where they work.
Mr. Swanson then noted that if you use a mixed use in a develop-
ment such as this, you would separate your users so that you
don't belnd retail and office. We have to supply the 5.5 parking
spaces in the whole area.
Mr. Prime interjected here that this board was not here to pass on
what their plans are. This Board is here to pass on whether
they will require a site-plan review under any criteria that is
in the zoning ordinance. His issue was--does the chanqe of mix which
brings in the different class, permanent employees, change the
traffic and pedestrian flow. Would this require a site-plan
review under the criteria that is in our zoning ordinance.
Mr. Kafin, in essence, stated that if the owner plans on renting
space or altering the buildint, he can't do so until he spends
much time in meetings, etc. getting all the permit.s he would need.
He has to do that every time as it stands now. Tenants could be
lost during this process. He asked that the Board rule that a
change of use in this particular property, as long as it is a
permitted use, not require a site-plan review. Otherwise, every
time there is a tenant turnover from one permitted use to another,
a site-plan review is needed.
INTERPRETATION NO. 14 - NPSC Corporation
Northway Plaza
Route 9
Motion by Mr. Sicard, seconded by Daniel Griffin, all voting
affirmatively
RESOLVED: That Northway Plaza is hereby defined as pre-
existing mixed use according to the schedule of permitted
uses.
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VARI~:l\NCE ~JO. 787 - Arthur Robillard , Jr.
7 Linden St., So. Glens Falls
Mr. Ror-illard represented himself.
The proposed use is to construct a single family SUlT1.mer
dwelling at a 35' setback from the shores of Glen Lake in
lieu of the required 50'. He is also planning to construct
this building on a lot that does not front on a public row.
Chairman asked if the lot was buildable under the old ordinance.
Mr. Robillard replied that he had purchased the lot in 1960.
At the time of the purchase he was in compliance with the
zoning law at that time. He mentioned he had intended to
build but things prevented his doing it. He would now like
to build, circumstances have changed and the time is right
for him now. The laws have now changed and the plans must
be approved because of the size of the lot.
Chairman next asked about water supply and septic system.
!'1r. Robillard answered that there would be a 2000 gal. holding
tank installed and water would be no problem.
Mrs. Goetz asked what the property has been used for during
the years with Mr. Robillard answering that the family had
used it for general relaxation.
Mrs. Goetz then asked if he had ever tried to purchase the
property across the road with Mr. Robillard answering yes.
Mr. Griffin then asked if there was any reason why the side set
backs couldn't be met.
Mr. Robillard answered that mathrnatically there was no way.
It was then noted by the Chairman that someone had already started
to dig.
Mr. Robillard said that it was his family but they were now \l>7<3.i ting
for the results of the request here toniaht.
Chairman opened the meeting to the public asking if there was
anyone present either for or against the application.
There was no one present either for or against.
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It was noted that the Town Planning Board passed a motion for
no action on this application. Planning Board members could not
locate the property due to insufficient directions and did not
want to pass judgment.. The v7arren County Planning Board recoIT'J'1.ended
approval.
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Mr. Sicard ~entioned that Mr. Robillard has shown practical
difficulty here, the shortcomings in this have been overcome
by putting in the type of septic system he is planning on.
Motion by Mr. Sicard to approve Variance No. 787, seconded by
Mr Turner, all members voting affirmatively-
RESOLVED: The Queensbury Zoning Board of Appeals hereby
does approve Variance No. 787 based on the
purchase in 1960 and that practical difficulty
has been proven.
Approved.
VARIANCE NO. 789 - Emmanuel Haille
Luzerne Road
Mr. Maille was present and represented himself.
Reapply to continue Variance No. 729 to operate his auto repair
shop on the North side of Luzerne Road.
Chairman asked if there would be any changes to what he was
permitted previously with Mr. Maille answering no.
Chairman noted next that at the last request it was stated that
if there were any problems that we would have to go over the
request again. Therefore, the first thing to do tonight is ask
if there was anyone present who had any rpoblems with the
operation.
Hr. John Mahan, Luzerne Road came forward and stated that he felt
that Mr. Þ1aille should be granted the variance. He was a neighbor
and was adjacent to Mr. Maille and there have been no problems.
The Town Planning Board approved and recommended approval. There
have been no comments from the neighborhood and the applicant
has made improvements to the building and land.
Motion by ~,~r. Prime for approval of Variance 789 which would
make Variance 729 permanent, seconded by Mr. Sicard all voting
affirmatively
RESOLVED: The Queensbury Zoning Board of Appeals hereby
approves Variance No. 789 based on uncontested
compliance with Variance 729, no change in
circumstances.
Approved.
VARIANCE NO. 790 - Alan Monroe
4 Second Street
Mr. ~~onroe was present and represented himself.
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Mr. Monroe said that he wants to place an apartment for his
elderly parents over an existing two-car garage on his
property at 4 Second Street. He stated that this apartment
would be only for family use.
Chairman asked if all conveniences would be in the apartment.
Hr. Monroe answered yes.
Chairman then noted that it could then be rented.
Mr. Monroe said yes that it could but that it wasn't his
intention to rent it. It would only be used for his family and
at the time it was for his parents but future it could be used
by one of his children.
Mr. Monroe also stated that there would be no structural changes.
The only change would be the stairs leading up and a small
porch, the windows are there now. It would also be fully in-
sulated.
Meeting next opened to the public. There was no one present
either for or against application.
The Town Planning Board recommended approval as did the County
Planning Board with the condition that the property be owner
occupied.
Chairman noted that the motion here should also include the
words' owner occupied.'
Motion by Mrs. Goetz for approval, seconded by Mr. Sicard all
voting affirmatively
RESOLVED: The Queensbury Zoning Board of Appeals hereby
approves Variance No. 790 on the basis that
unnecessary hardship has been established and
that this be owner occupied only.
Approved.
VARIANCE NO. 791 - Enoch and Patricia Zy10wski
Mr. & Mrs. Zylowski were represented by Mr. McCormack from the
firm of Coulter & McCormack.
Mr. McCormack started out by saying the proposed use would be
a 12 lot subdivision with the lots to be less than the required
one (1) acre. The main reason for the request was the change
in the Zoning Ordinance. The original plans were submitted to
the Planning Board in September, 1981. Presentation made to
the Planning Board on January 7, 1982 at which time a conceptual
approval for the subdivision was granted. In as much as the
project was subject to approval by other agencies we then began
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the approval routine and on January 26, 1982 the application
to APA was made. In February it was determined that 12 lots
would be the greatest number that could be developed on the
property. Basic reasoning for that was that there were 12
existing principal buildings on the property now and they
would then allow a 12 lot subdivision. This was two (2) less
than the Planning Board had conceptually approved. The plans
were then revised to show a 12 lot subdivision. One of the
conditions of approval by the APA was the issuance of a permit
by the Environmental Conservation Department for the community
sewer system. That process was then started and following the
DEC review, they determined that a transportation corporation
be formed to own and maintain the sewer system, that process
was also started. After all this is in the process, we find
on June 11, 1982 we now have a new ordinance. At this point
Mr. Zylowski has already expended a sum of money trying to
meet all the other requirements. It wasn't determined until late
September that, in fact, we would have to go for a variance.
There is no transition period for projects under review when the
new ordinance came into effect. The approval process made it
impossible to have this completed in time for final approval
by the Planning Board before the new ordinance came into play.
Mr. Lynn, Building Inspector, noted that at the time of the
original application the plan was within the lot size require-
ments of the old zoning ordinance. There would have been no
reason for this to come before the Zoning Board of Appeals at
the time of the original application.
Mr. McCormack added that at the time they started the plans,
the Zoning Ordinance was 10,000 sq. ft. and now each lot is
1 acre. The total area of the property is a little over 12
acres. The average density would be one principal building
per acre.
Chairman then asked the average area of the proposed sites.
McCormack mentioned that the average would be 1 acre or a
little over an acre, there are 12.4 acres involved.
Chairman next asked if this acreage included the roads that
would be dedicated.
Mr. McCormack answered that it excluded the roads.
Mrs. Goetz then asked if the present buildings are rentals.
Mr. McCormack said they were.
Mrs. Goetz then asked if they would still be rental units.
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Mr. McCormack said there would be a gradual phase-out of the
rental operation. Mr. Zylowski is a home building contractor.
Basically he would be putting four (4) new buildings on the
property. There are 12 buildings now and there will be 12
buildings when they get through. Some of the cottages are
rather small, there are two or three on the lake that will be
removed. They possibly will be relocated to one of the back
four lots but more than likely, he will build larger substantial
homes on those four back lots.
Mr. McCormack next put plans up for members of the public to
glance at. He was asked if there were any docks available on
the lake and he said there was approximately 350' total lake
frontage.
Chairman asked about water supply.
or single wells for each dwelling.
be single wells for each dwelling.
Would it be central water
McCormack said there would
The municipal sewage system was next discussed. Mr. Zylowski
feels that for economic reasons he needs the 12 lots. The
decision to put in this type of sewer system was his, based on
advise from the Coulter & McCormack firm and the engineer in-
volved in the project. The point to make here is that due to
no fault of Mr. Zylowski's we are caught in the change of the
zoning ordinance.
Chairman noted that the case would be based mainly on the pre-
existance of 14, later 12, lots before the zoning ordinance was
changed on June 11, 1982 and that the plans had been submitted
to the Planning Board prior to that time. The proposal to take
care of any adverse affect on the neighborhood with the sewer
system and the fact that you have increased the size. You will
have 12 principle buildings and you have 12 now.
Chairman noted for the benefit of all that there are 12 acres
to be divided up 12 ways including the streets. There will be
a sewer system to take care of any adverse affect on the lake
and also individual wells for each building.
McCormack pointed out that the water wells will be drilled by
Mr. Zylowski.
Mr. Prime was concerned and asked for clarification of the fact
that there are now 12 buildings on the property and if they are
planning to build 4 new ones this would add up to 16.
11cCormack explained they are going to build 4 more, Mr. Zylowski
could remove 4 of the buildings from their present location,
two of which are on the lake shore. They would be moved to some
of the back lots. Some of the buildings are small, and wouldn't
be moved to another lot, they would be converted to non-
residential use such as storeage buildings. There will be
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just 12 principal buildings. He also mentioned that there has
been an indication of approval by the APA.
Meeting was opened to the public.
Elizabeth Cline, adjoining property owner, represented the
following residents of the area who could not attend: Robert
Irvin, Mrs. Jack Roach. She said there was a letter submitted
by her to the board. The main concern is for the drainage in
the area. She pointed out her location and that of the others
on the map. She stated there is low land in the area and quite
a bit of drainage from the road. Recent years have brought
growth of weeds in the lake and they feel there is already
some drainage corning from the road and from the area of the
property being discussed tonight. The new septic system might
very well lead to further drainage and thus very well pollute
the lake. She questioned the omission of the drainage ditch
and a culvert from the map brought by Mr. McCormack.
Mr. McCormack showed Mrs. Cline where the drainageway and the
culvert were located on the map.
Charles Adamson felt that Mr. McCormack was giving false in-
formation. He has indicated the flow was to the South, it does
not flow to the souty but to the north.
Mrs. Cline also pointed out that one of the reasons there is so
much confusion is this is the first that most of the people have
heard about this proposal. If it was in February, 1982 that the
APA did their first inspection they probably wouldn't have even
seen the drainage areas because of the weather last winter. She
asked if there was an envoronmental impact statement required.
McCormack said that they still needed to get approval from the
Conservation Department and the Health Department and several
other steps yet. We have a long way to go after we get this
approval here tonight. Our main concern here is the acre
problem.
Chairman interjected that this is not a final decision here tonight,
there is a long way to go yet. Some of the concerns voiced here
tonight should be taken up at other meetings. The other organi-
zations would put your thoughts into their decisions if they
proved to be a concern.
Mrs. Cline added that it was her understanding that the Town
adopted the acreage as a protection to the lake. She also mentioned
that the lots, as proposed, were not the acre.
Mr. McCormack next read from the map the size of the lots as
proposed. He also explained that everything has come to a halt
as Mr. Zylowsky does not feel that he can continue with the
expenses without first geting approval from the Zoning Board.
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Mr. Sabella, Assembly Point objected to the decrease in acreage
from what the Board has declared is allowed. Unforuunately
he said he wasn't prepared because he didn't know what was going
on there. None of the area residents knew until they received
a notice that there was to be a meeting. He then mentioned a
resident in another area basically having the same problem,
buæ since he could obtain other land, he had to comply and buy
land adjoining him. He said that Mr. Zy¡owski is not suffering
any hardship whether he has 10 or 12 lots, he should comply with
the Zoning.
Chairman asked Mr. Sabella if Mr. Zylowski should divide the
acres exactly into 12 squares no matter where the squares would
end and he answered that he didn't care how it was done as long
as they all complied with the ordinance.
Mr. Adamson asked if they were talking area or use variance with
the Chairman answering use variance. Mr. Adamson sait that we
were talking size tonight and that is area.
Mr. Lynn explained just how it came to be a use variance.
Mr. Adamson then said- aren't there two steps then, don't you
have to approve a subdivision. What you are saying then and waht
the gentleman before me is objecting to is that once you approve
the subdivision, then we come to the area variance.
Mr. Lynn answered that was incorrect. After the variance has
gone through, the whole project will then go back to the Planning
Board. The subdivision cannot receive any approval at this time
because the area in the individual lots would be non-conforming.
Once the variance to put the subdivision in as proposed and it
goes through the procedures to develop the property and has all
the approvals from the Planning Board, then an area variance
would be invoked if the buildings were to be put in a location
where it did not meet the required setback.
Chairman noted that the only concern here is whether or not he
should be able to make a subdivision here in this lakefront
residential lA Zone. A subdivision is not provided for under
the permitted uses.
Mr. Adamson also said that a practical difficulty does not exist.
Elimot Harris - North Crossover Lane mentioned that the ordinance
was made to protect the residents of Assembly Point. It states
1 acre to a lot and to protect the people there you should stick
to that ordinance.
Chairman asked Mr. Harris to explain why he feels 12 houses
on 12.4 acres of land is more harmful than 12 houses on exactly
12 single acres.
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Mr. Harris answered he wasn't contending that. He felt that
each house should have 1 acre according to the ordinance. It
should not be less than the acre. It it is more than we can't
complain. Mr. Zyiowski bought the property as one single piece.
He can divide it up into acre lots, if he doeen't get 12 houses
there, he will get 11 and we can't object.
Mr. McCormack commented on the placement and density of the
buildings. He said there is approximately 2.28 acres between
Bay Parkway and the lake on which there are now 6 principal
buildings. Someone in the audience corrected him stating that
there were 7. Mr. McCormack corrected his statement.
Robert Rohn - Assembly Point asked Mr. McCormack to show the
six houses which he did and also the small seventh one which
has never been used.
Rohn questioned how many houses they would be removing, Mr.
McCormack pointed out the ones and showed where they would be
put. He also said that if they were not moved to other lots
then they would be done away with.
Mrs. Cline pointed out that these houses are all summer
properties and are not adequate for year round occupancy.
Moe Leinoff - corner Crossover and Lake also spoke about the
present rental of the buildings, and also the proposed uses.
Chairman noted here that these buildings existed long before
zoning, they are old and we can't do anything to take them
away.
Lemnoff said that under present renta, they are a pre-existing
situation but as a sale you are changing the entire thing,
therefore violating the orminance.
Dr. Weiss - Assembly Point was concerned about the sewage
disposal plan
Mr. Sabella once again said he couldn't see any hardship for Mr.
zylowski. He owns all the property, he is not suffering any
hardship, he can make 10 or 12 lots, he is a builder.
Mr. McCormack, in answer to Dr. Weiss's concerns about the
sewage disposal said that all the concerned agencies that will
deal with it have indicated that this plan is a workable solution.
Dr. Weiss then asked why the lots were not the minimum of 1 acre.
Chairman said mainly the layout of the land involved.
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Chairman asked where the disposal plant would be.
Mr. McCormack said the sewage disposal area was not on a
numbered lot, it is 1.06 acres and part of the 12 being
discussed. He then gave the size of each individual lot as
proposed. The size had a lot to do with the existing
buildings on them. The lots were planned around the existing
buildings. He said that presently the plans include the moving
of 4 ~uildings.
David Stark suggested holding off any decisions for tonight
until a map could be produced showing exactly where the roads
would be, and where the sewage plant would be.
Chairman said this was all explained earlier by the applicant.
Mr. Stark then said that as far as the members of Assembly
Point were concerned they had very short notice of these plans.
There was a question as to whether this map shows the roads,
sewage plant and how much land will be left.
Chairman once again stated that this
time, the only thing of concern here
a subdivision of the size requested.
taken up in great detail after.
Mr. Stark was concerned mostly with the net acreage.
was not the concern at this
tonight was the variance for
The other things will be
Mr. McCormack said the total would bEe 9 acres left.
Mr. Lynn next explained the procedure process after and if
approval is given.
Chairman noted letters from other residents of the area.
Dr. Weiss asked if there were any restrictive clauses in the
deed to the property.
Chairman answered that that had nothing to do with zoning and was
not the business of the Board.
Mr. McCormack spoke again stating that whether you like it or not,
and most people don't like changes, the plan complies with all of
the various ordinances with the exception that each and every lot
is not a full acre. Everything else has beend addressed.
Town Planning Board recommended approval. as did the Warren County
Planning Board.
A member of the audience interjected here and asked if a decision
would depend on the accuracy of the map shown and the Chairman
mentioned that if the map was inaccurate any decision would be
void. This gentleman said the map was not exactly correct, he
explained and was satisfied with the answer given by Mr. McCormack.
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Motion for approval of Variance No. 791, s¥cMnoemubner, seconded
by Mr. Sicard
RESOLVED: The Queensbury Zoning Board of Appeals hereby
approves Variance No. 791 based on the following: The
Hardship has been shown by the passage~of a new Town
Zoning Ordinance, June 11, 1982 by which the applicant had
no control. The granting of this variance reduces the
density of houses on the lake and eliminates sewage into
the lake, the variance requested is the minimum which would
alleviate the specific hardship found by this Board.
Before the vote was taken, the Chairman explained again that
approval of this variance is just the beginning for Mr. Zylowski,
but as had been said many times before we are concerned only with
the lot size. Any problems with drainage, etc. have noting to
do with this Board. We are just talking about the reasonableness
of having the plot plan as presented in 1982 continued. Everything
else will corne back to the building department.
Mr. Lynn said that it was not the building department. It would
be under the scruntny of the subdivision review with review of
the planning board and noties are Bentsenttbe þhel~cblic but are
published in the newspaper. We have also been requested in the
past by the L.G.A. to notify them of any actions taking place
within the 12 mile shoreline of the Town of Queensbury.
Chairman noted here that any deviation of this plan would require
another variance.
Mr. Lynn said any deviation after the subdivision is approved
would have to go back to the Planning Board, not the Zoning Board.
Vote on Variance No. 791----
Yes-Griffin, Turner, Chairman, Sicard and Prime
No -Mrs. Goetz
Variance approved.
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VARIANCE NO. 792 - The Salvation Army, Inc.
Represented by Irene Baker, Chairman of the Advisory Board.
Mrs. Baker stated that the proposed use was for the Salvation
Army Thrift Store which is presently located on Park Street in
Glens Falls. She said they were asking for a change here from
Highway Commercial to Retail.
The Town Planning Board recommended approval of the Use Variance
as it would be in keeping with the presentlcharacter of the area
as it is also a retail outlet.
There was no one present in opposition to the granting of the
variance.
Chairman noted that retail sales of this type are for the con-
venience of the highway public and the Planning Board had stated
that highway commercial was such as operations more associated
with travelers along a highway but their intent was not to
eliminate t¥is type of operation fecm those zones. He next
recommended that the Salvation Army be refunded their fee.
Mr. Lynn said that the Board could make the recommendation but
that it would have to go to the Town Board for approval.
The Warren County Planning Board concurred with the Twwn Planning
Board.
Motion by Mr. Prime, seconded by Mr. Griffin all voting affirma-
tively
RESOLVED: The Queensbury Zoning Board is of the opln~on and
agrees that the Salvation Army comes under the heading of
operation for the convenience of the travelling public and
as such a variance is not required and the Zoning Board
recommends to the Town Board that the fee be refunded. It
is the Board's opinion that the Salvation Army business, as
proposed, on this location is one that will primarily serve
the highway public.
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Approved.
VARIANCE NO. 793 - Michael and Barbara Gould
7 Dorset Place
Mr. & Mrs. Goula represented by John Arpen
Chairman explained that this is another case of the old and new
ordinance. They are requesting an area variance because of the
change in the ordinance. The house is fully constructed.
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The Goula's requested site setback of 10'6 in lieu of the required
15' setback. The builder constructed the house pursuant to the
understanding and belief that the setback requirement was 10'
and the house was so constructed
Mr. Lynn explained that a permit was not issued, what happened
was that they addressed the Building Dept. and at the time we
were still under the old ordinance and at that tfurne the in-
formation was given about the required setback which was 15' for the
two sides with a minimum of 5' on one side. They were under
pressure to get under construction so we allowed them to go
ahead and start the foundation. Between that time and the time
they originally talked to us about it, the new ordinance had
started. We issued the Building permit after the foundation
was in and it was after June 11. At that time the plot plan was
still not submitted. The plot plan was submitted and reviewed.
We found that it was no longer true that the side setback was
only the 5' and now it was 15. This is why they are here.
What we have done is issue a temporary certificate of occupancy
pending the granting of the variance from the Zoning Board of
Appeals.
Chairman then asked if the Building Department didn't get itself
in trouble by letting this go without seeing the plot plan.
Mr. Lynn answered that basically that would be correct but if
we were aware that within the next few weeks we would have a new
Zoning Ordinance, we would have given that information that the
setback would be the 15'. At that time no one was sure when it
would go into effect.
fhere was one member of the public preeent but his concerns
were not applicable to this particular variance.
Town Planning Board recommends approval.
Motion by Mr. Sicard for approval of Variance 793, seconded by
Mr. Prime, all voting affirmatively
RESOLVED: The Zoning Board of Appeals of the Town of
Queensbury hereby approves Variance 793.
Practical difficulty due to change in transition
period between the old and new ordinance and
a mistake in setback byqbmt¡ment understanding
by builder, Town Building Department and owner
because of the Zoning Change. It is recommended
also that the Town Board refund the fee.
Approved.
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VARIANCE NO. 794 - Helen O. Hadley
21 Cedarwood Drive
Mrs. Hadley was represented by Robert Ruggles
Mr. Ruggles explained the water problem existing on the property.
Every possible means has been taken to avoid and alleviate the
problem but to no avail. The only way to prevent this again
would be to block the overhead doors on the present garage,
waterproof the wall and then erect a new garage to the rear of
the property.
Dr. & Mrs. Schwartz, residents to the rear of Mrs. Hadle~ were
present. They questioned where the water would go after this
has been done.
Mr. Ruggles explained what was being planned. He explained
the proposed size of the ?arage and it waule be a one story
building approximately 12 behind the house itself. He also
explained that the entire area would be filled and graded to
prevent any re-occurrence of this condition. The possible
removal of trees was also discussed with Mr. Ruggles agreeing
that a few would ,have to come down.
Motion by Mr. Griffin, seconded by Mrs. Goetz, all voting
affirmatively
RESOLVED: The Zoning Board of Appeals of the Town of
Queensbury hereby approves the Variance No. 794
. The practical difficulty being proven is
the flooding problem.
Approved.
VARIANCE NO. 795 - Great Bay Seafood Restaurant
19 Main Street
Harold Hotmtr represented the firm.
Mr. Hotm!r explained the reason for the proposed addition to the
restaurant. There would be 35' 6" front setback in lieu of the
required 50' setback. He explained, after being questioned, that
there would still be ample parking.
Mr. Prime asked what the capacity would be after this would be
completed.
Hotmer answered approximately 76.
Mrs. Goetz asked if the Restaurant owned the land behind the
building.
Mr. Hotmer said that they did not own it, Jack Lebowitz was the
owner. They could not purchase the land and they are basically
going to keep their operation the same as it is now but they
would like to have a little more room.
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There was no one present either for or against the request.
Motion by Chairman Cornwell, seconded by Mr. Turner, all
voting affirmatively for approval
RESOLVED: The Zoning Board of Appeals of the Town of
Queensbury hereby approve Variance 795 with
the practical difficulty being the maintaining
of the access to eHisting building with
adequate parking.
Approved.
There being no further business to come before the Board, the
Chairman asked for a motion to adjourn.
Motion by Mr. Turner, seconded by Chairman Cornwell, all
voting affirmatively that the meeting adjourn
RESOLVED: The Zoning Board of Appeals of the Town of
Queensbury hereby adjourns the meeting of
October 20, 1982
Approved.
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