1982-11-17
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Regular monthly meeting of the Queensbury Zoning Board of Appeals
was called to order by Chairman, Kirkham Cornwell, at 7:30 P.M.
November 17, 1982.
Present: Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Griffin, Mr. Turner, Mr. Cornwell, Mr.
Sicard, Mrs. Richardson and Mr. Prime
Chairman first asked for a motion to approve the minutes or
corrections or additions to them.
Chairman noted one correction, the spelling of the name Hotmer.
Motion by Mr. Sicard, seconded by Mr. Turner
RESOLVED that the minutes of the meeting conducted October20, 1982
are approved subject 00 corrections and additions.
Yes-Goetz, Griffin, Turner, Cornwell, Sicard and Prime
Abstain-Richardson
Approved.
Interpretation No. 15 - Walter O. Rehm, III represebting Shoe
Outlet property located Route 9 former
Halfway House.
Mr. Rehm explained that the new building would house a retail
shoe outlet similar to the one on the highway in Rutland. The
Building Department indicated that a shoe store or any other
retail business would require a variance under the new zoming
ordinance. A business such as this was not mentioned as one of
the uses in a Highway Commercial area.
Mr. Rehm next brought up the type of clients anticipated here
that they would be members of the travelling public. A store
such as is proposed here does not just cater to the local trade.
Chairman asked if the store would be basically the same style
as other Dexter Outlet stores with Mr. Rehm answering yes.
They will sell shoes and other related products as in the other
stores.
Zoning Board Interpretation as follows:
A ðexter Shoe Outlet similar to the Outlet in Rutland for the
sale of shoes and closely related items be ~lassified as being
for the convenience of the travelling public as provided in a
Highway Commercial Zone.
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~ members voting for approval. "'V. Pfl..... "O.SY~ ,
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Variance No. 796 - NPSC Corporation
Northway Plaza, Route 9
Represented by Attorney Kafin
This application, as stated by Attorney Kafin, is a request
for a variance for permission to place an ornamental spire on
the facade of the shopping plaza higher than the 50-foot maximum
allowed. Mr. Kafin explained that this is proposed for the spire
to be ornamental only. This spire is an integral part of the
design of the facade improvements being planned by the corporation.
It was mentioned here that the practical difficulty here is that
the buildings in the plaza are actually built in a hole.
Chairman noted that the whole operation is below the level of
the highway.
Chairman noted that both the Queensbury and Warren County
Planning Boards recommended that this variance be approved.
They felt that the reasoning for the height limitation in the
ordinance was for fire protection and that since this spire
would not be occupied they didn't see why it should apply. They
also commented that it would not obstruct or block any neighbors
view and it would not violate the intent of the ordinance in itself.
Motion by Mr. Sicard, seconded by Mrs. Richardson, all voting
affirmatively
RESOLVED that the Queensbury Zoning Board of Appeals approves
Variance No. 796 based on the fact that it would not be a
fire hazarè, it would not interrupt, or obstruct, neighbors view
and a practical difficulty of being below the level of the
highway has been show.
Approved.
Variance No. 797 - NPSC Corporation
Northway Plaza, Route 9
Represented by Attorney Kafin
Mr. Kafin stated that this is an application for permission to
place the words "Northway Plaza" on the main gable of its main building
as part of the proposed facade improvements.
Chairman noted that there is some question as to whether it would
be appropriate.
Mr. Kafin explained that the lettering is jproposed by the architect
to be the visual focal point of the entire project. It is designed
to be consistakt and an integral part of the entire facade program.
Chairman asked how many square feet the proposed wording would be.
Mr. Kafin said about30 inches high and 16-feet across. He then
mentioned that all of the signs in the plaza itself will be
consistent and the tenants will haee to comply.
Chairman also noted that all of the signs in the area will basically
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be the same in size, et~. Mr. Kafin agreed, the tenants will
all comply, the Corporation want's everýthing to be consistent
in size, color.
Chairman noted that the Planning Board had no objectæons and
recommended approval.
Mr. Sicard added that he would approve of this sign as identi-
fication on the gable as it is in keeping with the design program.
Mr. Swanson said this would be the only sign of this nature that
they would be requesting.
Mr. Prime added that the resolution could say that because of
the willingness of the Corporation to have only one free standing
sign that this would èe within our province to grant.
Chairman did not feel that a sign such as this would be needed
for identification.
Mr. Swanson again mentioned that his group would agree to only one
free-standing sign.
Motion by Mr. Sicard, seconded by Mrs. Richardson
RESOLVED that the Queensbury Zoning Board of Appeals approve
Variance No. 797 as follows:
1. Sign is in keeping with new design concept of the
Plaza.
2. Applicant will not use a free standing sign on Quaker
Road.
3. NPSC Corp. will not have to conform and remove sign in
1986.
Yes - Goetz, Griffin, Turner, Sicard, Richardson and Prime
No. - Cornwell
Approved.
Variance No. 798 - NPSC Corp.
Northway Plaza
Route 9
Mr. Kafin explained the request to replace a pre-existing non-
conforming free-standing sign with another nonconforming free-
standing sign on the property.
Chairman asked if there would be any other information on the
sign itself.
Mr. Swanson said no, just Northway Plaza. He explained that they
still need a sign such as this. It will be the only free-standing
sign with the words Northway Plaza on it.
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Mr. Swanson said they plan to use the present foundation of the
existing sign.
Mr. Kafin added that the present plans are to reduce the existing
pylon height by approximately four feet. The sign would be
lighted but not as bright. The improved sign will be 32 feet in
height and a variance is requested as the provision in the
ordinance limits such signs to 25 feet in height.
Chairman read the comments and approval from the Planning Board
It was mentioned that the fact that it would have to be removed
in 1986 should be contended with. The planning board recommended
that it be excluded from the non-conforming 1986 removal. It
should also be in this resolution.
Motion by Mr. Cornwell, seconded by Mr. Turner, all voting
affirmatively,
RESOLVED that the Queensbury Zoning Board of Appeals approves
Variance No. 798 to replace pre-existing non-conforming free
standing sign with another non-conforming free standing sign
as follows:
1. ~~eDe~~, bee~b~ches color concept of center.
2. Hardship due to terrain gìve~ owner chance to use
existing sign base.
3. Height 32' - square footage approximately 300 sq. ft.
Proposed drawing No.2, 5-9-82.
4. The sign is excluded from the non-conforming 1986
removal.
Approved.
Variance No. 799 - Frank K. Bronk
Applehouse Lane
West Mountain Park, Section II
Represented by John VanDusen
Mr. VanDusen explained the existing problem of the lots that
cannot be sold because of their size and the 1 acre provision
now in the Zoning law.
Chairman asked if there was water to the area in question now.
Mr. VanDusen said yes, there is Town water. He also explained
the present drainage problem and that it is going to be taken
care of. They are working with the Highway Department on it now.
Mr. Prime brought up the fact that when this sub-division was
previously approved all of the lots were of a size and with the
new Zoning and the increasing of the size of the lots now that
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they cannot market them.
Chairman asked if the Building Department would issue a building
permit if this request was approved.
Mr. Lynn said they would have to.
Chairman then asked if the person who buys the lot would have to
get a variance.
Mr. Lynn then said the request here tonight is to grant a variance
for all of the lots.
Mrs. Goetz explained her position, that being that you should adhere
to the new rules.
Mr. Prime felt that not approving the Variance would create a hardship.
The point is that they were acceptable lots in 1964 and a hardship
has been shown already.
mheimaebtn~rwa§:m~e~eàetondaà þybIDtc Griffin
Ronald Ball, Lester Drive spoke mainly about easements.
Elmer Fuller - His questionà did not pertain to the variance
request before the board.
Mrs. Frye, representing her son also had concern for lots in another
area with the same problems but had nothing to say for or against
this variance.
Motion by Mr. Prime, seconded by Mr. Griffin
RESOLVED that the Queensbury Zoning Board of Appeals approves
Variance No. 799 on the grounds it is a pre-existing sub-division
with lots of leas than one (1) acre and that it would be a hard-
ship not to perm~t the developer to continue to sell the lots
as designed and previously approved and it would not change the
character of the neighborhood, and there is ~xœsting Town water
to the lots.
Yes -Griffin, Turner, Prime
No -Goetz, Cornwell
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Approved.
Motion by Mr. Sicard, seconded by Mr. Griffin
Resolved that the meeting a&gsern.
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