1983-11-16
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Monthly meeting of the Queensbury Zoning Board of Appeals
held Wednesday, November 16, 1983 at 7:30 P.M.
Present: Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Griffin, Mr. Turner, Mr. Cornwell,
Mr. Sicard, Mrs. Richardson and Mr. Mills
Meeting was called to order by the Chairman who asked for
a motion for approval of the minutes of the October meeting.
There were two (2) changes to be made on the October set of
minutes, Variance 869 mentioned the name of Mr. Mack which
should be corrected to Mr. Dean and Variance 871 the spelling
of the name Kostek should be corrected.
Motion by Mr. Sicard, seconded by Mrs. Goetz to approve the
minutes of the October meeting subject to corrections. All
members voted yes for approval.
Chairman noted that under old business Variance No. 870 was
withdrawn.
Variance No. 849 - James DeNooyer represented by Attorney
James Towne. Mr. Towne noted that Mr. DeNooyer's application
was to place an addition to an existing garage on a lot that
does not have a permitted principal building on it now.
Mrs. Goetz mentioned that this is an addition to the present
existing garage.
Mr. Towne explained that this is a unique situation. Mr.
DeNooyer's children erected this without his knowledge. It
is to be used to store Mr. DeNooyer's own personal boats and
the present garage as it was standing was not long enough
for the boat.
Chairman asked Mr. Towne if boat storeage was the principle
use for this building. Mr. Towne said it was secondary.
Mr. Turner asked if the other vehicles in the garage are being
restored. Mr. T~~ said the family is working on restoring
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Chairman opened the meeting to the public.
Ethyl Anderson owner of Lake View home for adults complained
about the traffic hazard with all the vehicles parked around
this particular area.
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Koock Elan Jung mentioned that he had sold a small piece of
property to Mr. DeNooyer. He understood that there was to be
a one or two car garage erected which he had no objections to.
With this building and all the vehicles around it has caused
a traffic problem and much noise. He then asked if Mr.
DeNooyer built the present garage with the permission of the
Board.
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Mrs. Goetz interjected here that this question should be answered.
Chairman said that that isn't the problem before them tonight.
Dr. Jung mentioned the drainage in the area.
Howard Lockhart noted that there isn't much room there and
also mentioned speeding.
Frank Lockhart also concerned about traffic and drainage.
Charles Adamson representing the Lake George Association.
He asked why no building permit was issued before construction
of the building.
Chairman once again noted that this does not concern the board
at this time.
Mr. Adamson then asked how he could justify a hardship.
Public hearing closed.
Mrs. Richardson also questioned the hardship.
Mr. Towne once again mentioned that the boat is too long for
the garage as it existed prior to the addition.
Mrs. Richardson interjected that she realizes that the
board can't do anything about the initial building but she
noted that she is having a problem now with granting a variance
for an addition which she finds a very substantial addition.
Chairman then noted that the change of the neighborhood
character is substantial.
Motion by Mrs. Richardson, seconded by Mrs. Goetz to deny
Variance 849 based on the fact that no hardship has been
proven and any further expansion would just increase the impact
on the neighborhood.
Yes - Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Griffin, Mr. Turner, Chairman, Mr. Sicard
Mrs. Richardson, Mr. Mills
No
(Yes vote means to deny)
Variance denied.
VARIANCE NO. 872 - Northland Beverage Center - representative
did not state his name.
To place an addition with less than the required 20 ft. side
and rear setbacks in Highway Commercial.
The representative stated that additional storage area is needed
necessitated by the N.Y.S. Bottle Bill.
Mrs. Goetz asked if the addition will affect the trucks coming
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in and out of Mi11brook.
Representative said no. He mentioned that he owns most of
the property between the two buildings now but the addition
will not interfere.
Public hearing opened, and then closed.
The Queensbury Town Planning Board approved the request.
Motion by Mr. Griffin, seconded by Mr. Sicard to approve
Variance No. 872 as a practical difficulty has been shown.
All voting affirmatively.
Mrs. Richardson left the meeting at this point.
Variance No. 873 - Janet and Charles Bolivar - Brown's Motel
Represented by Mrs. Bolivar.
Mrs. Bolivar said that she wanted to relocate motel units
and that she has already taken one building to the front down
which has already improved the traffic flow. She presented a
few plans to the board.
Public hearing opened.
Tom Harris, owner of Sunset Motel and Mt. Royal complained
about density.
Public hearing closed.
Queensbury Planning Board approved.
Motion by Mr. Sicard, seconded by Mrs. Goetz, all voting
affirmatively, it was
RESOLVED THAT the Zoning Board of Appeals approves Variance 873
as a practical difficulty has been shown by arrangement of
the buildings giving better traffic flow.
Approved.
Variance No. 874 - David and Rosemary Richardson represented
by Attorney Denise McLaughlin - Ms. McLaughlin explained the
financial hardship at the present time on the Richardsons in
that he have had to sell their home. They would like to put
a mobile home on the lot. She mentioned that the Planning
Board will approve pending this board's decision.
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Mrs. Goetz mentioned that when he spoke to Mr. Richardson
one point he said was that when the new zoning law went into
effect it was his understanding that his property would be
residential.
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Mr. Richardson said he spoke about this with Mr. Roberts.
Mack Dean interjected that he too had a conversation with
Mr. Roberts to the effect that he (Mr. Richardson) had his home
there and apparently the Planning Board was not aware of this
at the time they were establishing the zone lines.
Meeting opened to the public.
Thomas Atkins - No objections.
Gladys Lapham - no objections
P1ub1ic meeting closed.
Planning board approved.
Motion by Mrs. Goetz, seconded by Mr. Sicard, all voting
affirmatively
RESOLVED that the Zoning Board approves Variance No. 874 based
on the fact that hardship appears to be the oversite by the
Planning Board in the developing of the new zoning ordinance
and zoning line and it would not alter the initial character
of the neighborhood.
Approved.
Variance No. 875 - James Gargiulo - represented by Stephen
Lynn - Mr. Lynn mentioned that Mr. Gargiulo would like to remove
the existing two story structure and replace it with a new
dwelling.
Chairman asked how wide the right of way was with Mr. Lynn
answering 10 ft.
Meeting opened to the public.
Mr. Adamson, Lake George Association said that this would be
an improvement to the area.
Planning Board approved.
Motion by Mr. Sicard, seconded by Mrs. Goetz, all voting
affirmatively
RESOLVED that the Zoning Board of Appeals hereaby approves
Variance No. 875 as it is an improvement to the existing area
and there is no negative impact.
VARIANCE NO. 876 - James E. Bombard, Sr. represented himself.
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Mr. Bombard stated that he wants to refurbish cars
Mrs. Goetz asked where the garage would be located.
Mr. Bombard answered that his plans were for it to be to
the left of his own house.
Mrs. Goetz asked if all the work would be done inside the
garage itself and Mr. Bombard answered yes.
Chairman asked if there would be salvage cars on the property
and Mr. Bombard answered No.
Chairman asked if the Planning Board suggested that he apply
for a variance which would be only good for his lifetime.
Mr. Bombard answered that essentially that is what they suggested.
Mr. Sicard then asked Mr. Bombard if this would be agreeable to
him and Mr. Bombard said yes.
Meeting opened to the public.
Floyd Martindale and Irving Martindale both had no objections.
P1ub1ic meeting closed.
Motion by Mr. Sicard, seconded by Mr. Griffin, all voting
affirmatively
RESOLVED the Queensbury Zoning Board of Appeals hereby approves
Variance No. 876 based on the following: owner occupied;
operation conducted within the building; no storage of un-
registered vehicles and no employees.
Approved.
VARIANCE NO. 877 - Sager Spuck Supply Co., Inc. represented
by Mr. Platt, Signs of Progress.
Mr. Platt mentioned that they were asking for a sign half the
size of what they could be asking for.
Meeting opened to the public
Town Planning Board recommended approval.
No questions from Board members
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Motion by Mr. Griffin, seconded by Mrs. Goetz, all voting
affirmatively
RESOLVED the Queensbury Zoning Board of Appeals approves
Variance No. 877 for sign 4' from the side property line and
5' front set back.
Approved.
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Variance No. 878 - John R. Pyle, Jr. - represented by John
Rou1ier -
Chairman noted here that in effect you are planning to build another
building with a setback problem he~e.
Mr. Rou1ier answered basically that was right.
Chairman then asked if it would be only a garage or would
there be living quarters involved here.
Mr. Rou1ier said that there is no intention of making any kind
of living quarters in the building nor would it be rented.
Public hearing opened.
Letter from Joan Robertson read into the record and will be
in the permanent file.
Public meeting closed.
Planning Board recommended approval.
Motion by Mrs. Goetz, seconded by Mr. Sicard, all voting
affirmatively, it was
RESOLVED THAT the Queensbury Zoning Board of Appeals approves
Variance No. 878 as the practical difficulty is the set back
from the road and there is no adverse effect on the neighborhood
and that there be no apartment in the garage.
Approved.
VARIANCE NO. 879 - Hans A. Hansen - represented by Attorney
O'Hara -
Mr. O'Hara stated that Mr. Hansen would like to have his repair
and sale of household appliances in the proposed building.
Mr. O'Hara added that there would be no attempt to have a retail
outlet out of the building. He just wants to have a place to
store the objects that he is working on and have an office.
Chairman asked if there would be a sign involved. Mr. O'Hara
answered no.
Mrs. Goetz asked what was in the rear of his present building now.
Mr.Hansen answered that customers appliances waiting to be
repaired are in the yard now.
Chair~an asked if Mr. Hansen had already purchased the property.
Mr. O~Hara answered no, he has a contract to purchase.
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Mr. O'Hara added that the property in question is to the
West side of Seward Street just north off Sherman Avenue.
Meeting opened to the public.
Pat McGar, 5 Ripley Place - stated that there is an unsightly
mess now, there is no hardship proven. Also mentioned that there
were a lot of buildings elsewhere available to rent.
Bruce Ennno, 10 Ames Place, opposed. Concerned that if Mr.
Hansen gets this variance what is to stop others.
Don Singleton in favor of request.
Bruce Ludgren - Ames & Grant Ave. - opposed stated that this
represents a fair size commercial establishment in a residential
area.
Public meeting closed.
Planning Board disapproved.
Mr. Hanssen next said that he wants to keep his operation small
all he wants to do is service appliances. He needs a place to
work.
Mr. Turner asked if this was granted would everything outside
now be stored inside the building, Mr. Hansen said yes.
Chairman asked if he had any employees, Mr. Hansen said there
is just himself.
Motion by Mr. Mills, seconded by Mrs. Goetz,
RESOLVED the Queensbury Zoning Board of Appeals hereby denies
Variance No. 879 based on the fact that it does not meet the
criteria of the use variance, it would be an adverse affect
on the neighborhood character and no hardship has been
established, the applicant does not own the property in question.
Yes - Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Griffin, Mr. Turner, Chairman, Mr. Sicard
Mr. Mills
No. - None
Absent - Mrs. Richardson
(Yes vote to deny)
Denied.
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VARIANCE NO. 880 - Cumberland Farms - No representative present
Motion by Mr. Griffin, Seconded by Mr. Sicard, all voting
affirmatively,
RESOLVED that Variance No. 880 be tabled.
Approved.
VARIANCE NO. 882 - Douglas He1ffrich - Mr. He1ffrich represented
himself.
Mr. He1ffrich intends to put an addition to rear of garage for
additional work space.
Chairman asked Mr. He1ffrich if this was actually the second
request for a variance and Mr. He1ffrich answered yes.
Chairman then asked if traffic flow would remain the same and
Mr. He1ffrich said that basically it would remain the same as
with the previous building.
P1ub1ic hearing opened and closed
Planning Board recommended approval.
Motion by Mr. Mills, seconded by Mr. Sicard all voting affirmatively
RESOLVED that the Queensbury Zoning Board of Appeals hereby
approves Variance No. 882 as it is a reasonable expansion of a
non-conforming use with no change in public facilities and no
adverse change in the neighborhood itself.
Approved.
Before closing the meeting it was suggested that future applications
be prepared in a better manner.
Motion by Mr. Sicard, seconded by Mr. Mills, all voting affirmatively
MEETING ADJOURNED
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