1984-11-28
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Regular monthly meeting of the Queensbury Zoning Board of Appeals
held November 28, 1984.
Present: Mr. Behr, Mr. Griff in, Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Turner, Mr. Sicard
Mr. Muller and Mr. Mills.
Absent: None
The first item before the Board was the approval of the minutes
of the October meeting.
One correction on Page 2 paragragh 3 - should read many homes.
Motion my Mr. Sicard, seconded by Mrs. Goetz, all voting
affirmatively -
RESOLVED THAT the minutes of the October meeting are hereby approved
subject to mentioned correction.
Approved.
Old Business
VARIANCE NO. 586 - Richard Kubricky
A letter from Dorothy S. Kubricky requesting an extension of their
building permit was read into the record and attached hereto.
The Board members all agreed to extend the permit.
Motion by Mr. Behr, seconded by Mr. Sicard, all voting affirmatively,
it was
RESOLVED THAT the Request of Richard and Dorothy Kubricky for the
extension of their building permit is granted for the reasons stated
in their letter.
Approved.
VARIANCE NO. 950 - Cool Insuring Agency, Inc.
Warren E. Rouillard was present representing Cool Ins. Agency.
This Variance was tabled from the previous meeting due to the lack
of information provided to the Board.
Mrs. Goetz mentioned that the sign was already in place and asked
if they had a temporary sign permit.
Mr. Rouillard said they did have a temporary permit issued to them.
Mrs. Goetz then added that the sign ordinance is lacking in many
ways regarding temporary permits.
Mr. Muller asked if the sign he looked at is the sign.
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Mr. Rouillard said yes.
Letter from the Warren County Highway Department read.
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Motion by Mr. Sicard, seconded by Mr. Muller, all voting
affirmatively, it was
RESOLVED THAT Variance No. 950 is approved as all necessary in-
formation reqested has been provided.
Approved.
VARIANCE NO. 953 - Samuel Peca - Audio Genesis
Sign Variance
Mr. peca was present to represent the firm.
Mr. Peca explained the reasons why they needed to relocate the
present free-standing sign mainly the sign from Pharmacy Assoc.
Public Hearing opened and closed.
Warren County Planning Board approved the request.
Motion by Mr. Muller, seconded by Mr. Turner, all voting
affirmatively, it was
RESOLVED THAT Variance No. 953 be approved as they have demonstrated
the necessary requirements. This Board allowed Pharmacy Associates
to have their sign and thus created the problem. The practical
difficulty has been demonstrated.
Approved.
VARIANCE NO. 954 - Northern Homes, Inc. - to construct accessory
storage structure at less than the required 50 ft. rear setback.
Represented by Jeffrey Kelly.
Mr. Kelly stated that he has spoken to a number of the residents
in the area, submitted the names for the record saying that they
do not object to the building within 10' of the property line.
Warren County Planning Board turned down the request with concern
for the residential property directly behind the building which
is owned by the Beeman family on North Road.
Mr. Kelly said that Mr. Beeman looked at the plans and said he
had no problem with them.
Mr. Behr asked what the hardship would be.
Mr. Kelly said the hardshipis that if we had to stay the 50' from
the property line there is a lot of land we can't use to its best
advantage.
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Mr. Behr then said then you can salvage the front portion for
something later on and Mr. Kelly said yes.
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Michael Carusone introduced himself as President of Northern Homes
and explained that the property is very low in front. In order to
do this properly we will we would loose area. We have no idea what the
future will be. He said that they would build a two story building.
Public Hearing opened
Harwood Beaty, 47 Glenwood Ave. - No objection but would like to
see some shrubbery located around the area.
Letter from the Queensbury Beautification Committee stating that
disapproved.
Warren County Planning Board also disapproved.
Mr. Carusone said anything the beautification committee requests
they will be glad to do.
Public hearing closed.
Motion by Mr. Griffin, seconded by Mr. Turner
RESOLVED THAT Variance No. 954 be approved as follows: The
lumber would be set back from Quaker Road and not be visiblp-
size of lot in highway commercial zone precludes doing much with
property without a variance and that the Queensbury Beautification
Committee be contacted for input.
Yes - Mr. Griffin, Mr. Sicard, Mr. Mills
No - Mr. Behr, Mrs. Goetz
Abstain - Mr. Muller
Motion denied.
It was then explained that because the Warren County Planning Board
had denied the request that this Board had to have a majority plus
one for approval.
VARIANCE NO. 955 - T. Laurence Reynolds - to subdivide a parcel
to less than the required one acre in Lakeshore Residential 1 Acre
west side Cleverdale Road at intersection of Rockhurst Road.
Mr. Harold Gordon explained the driveway situation. He then
said that there is no practical way to divide the property. If
another driveway could be established it would be more suitable.
There was a letter from Attorney Frolmer in opposition to request.
Mr. Gorden then presented a letter withdrawing his opposition.
Mr. Behr asked a question but I could not hear it.
Charles Adamson asked the size of proposed property.
',- Mr. Muller said it would be a little over half an acre.
Mr. Adamson next questioned the septic system.
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Mr. Reynolds said that the septic system runs to the rear away
from the lake.
The question of the 99 year lease was discussed.
Mr. Muller asked if it was possible to in any way get the full acre.
Alma Hurwitz resident in the area concerned about water flow.
She said that if the property as it now stands is large enough
to permit subdivision into two (2) parcels, and if this is permitted,
then it should be done with the condition there will be no further
subdivision of that property. She is also concerned about dock
space and boats.
Warren County Planning Board disapproved as a precedent would be
would be established.
Motion by Mr. Behr, seconded by Mr. Mills
RESOLVED THAT Variance No. 955 be denied as no hardship has been
shown and there is an alternate use of the property. No practical
difficulth has been shown and it can be leased for 99 years.
(Yes vote means to deny)
Yes - Mr. Behr, Mr. Griffin, Mrs. Goetz, Turner and Mills
No - Mr. Sicard,Mr. Muller ~f .r
Variance Denied.
VARIANCE NO. 956 - Gary Crum - to place addition to dwelling with
less than the side yard setback.
No questions from the Board, all agreed Mr. Crum was doing a good
job with the property.
Motion by Mrs. Goetz, seconded by Mr. Griffin all voting affirmatively
RESOLVED THAT Variance 956 is approved as the practical difficulty
has been established in the size of the lot, the neighbors are far
enough away and it will improve the neighborhood character.
Approved.
VARIANCE NO. 95a- Richard Horwitz - to construct solar addition to
dwelling with 13 ft. side setback.
Mr. Behr asked if the addition will be higher than the existing
roof line, he answered no.
Public hearing opened and closed.
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Motion by Mr. Sicard, seconded by Mr. Turner, all voting affirmatively,
RESOLVED THAT Variance No. 957 be approved this is minimum relief
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and reasonable use of the property. This request is for only 2'
relief.
Approved.
VARIANCE NO. 958 - Carl Graves - to construct two-car detached
garage at less than the required siàe yard setback.
Mr. Graves rcpreEe~ted himself.
The question was asked of Mr. Graves who owned all the vehicles
on the property. Mr. Graves answered that they were all his cars.
Mr. Turner asked how many of the cars were registered and he said
three (3)..
Mr. Turner then asked if he was going to do any repair work in this
proposed garage and he said no.
Public Hearing open
Letter from Margaret Baxter in opposition - requested copies of
the minutes of this any any other minutes pertaining to this
Variance.
Public Hearing closedJ
Warren County Planning Board approved the request.
The Board asked the Building Department representative how many un-
registered vehicles are allowed per piece of property.
Mr. Bolton said two (2).
Public hearing re-opened.
Mr. Terrio, Big Boom Road asked what he was going to do with all
the other cars that aren't licensed.
Mr. Graves answered that he would get rid of them if he had to.
Discussion among Board regarding deferring the application.
Motion by Mr. Muller, seconded by Mr. Turner, all voting affirmatively
RESOLVED THAT Variance No. 958 be deferred, tabled, until the
applicant can come into compliance with the zoning law as far as
unregistered vehicles on the property at which time the application
will be heard.
Approved.
VARIANCE NO. 959 - Andrew and John McCormack - to construct multi-
family dwellings on property zoned single family residential.
Plans were discussed by Mr. McCormack (Sr.) He said that the
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proposed buildings will be on an area large enough for twelve (12)
single family units. He pointed to a map showing that these
buildings would be in t~e corner of the property near the highway
commercial zone. There will be heavy buffer of trees. These
buildings will not look like duplex buildings. He mentioned the
residents concerns regarding traffic.
Mr. Mills asked if they were limited to the six (6).
Mr. McCormack answered 6 would be the maximum
Mr. Mills then asked because of--------
Mr. McCormack said they felt that is all the property lends itself
to.
Mr. Muller questioned ownership.
Mr. McCormack said they would be the owners and would be maintained
by them. We will retain ownership, rent them and be caretakers.
Public Hearing opened.
Bernard McCann, resident of Courthouse Estates presented the Board
with petition signed by 72 residents and some from adjoining areas
opposed to the application. Mentioned that most of the people here
if not all the people recieved their first notice that anything
was anticipated last Wednesday, the day before Thanksgiving.
He mentioned the restrictive covenants in all their deeds. He said
that placing duplex buildings would lower all the property values.
He mentioned the ingress and egress.
Frank Shortell - Courthouse Estates, concerned about access to the
area and the increased traffic it would cause. He asked if there
might be another access route available.
Mr. McCormack said there was nothing else available.
Mr. Shortell then said they were proposing this knowing the traffic
problem. He questioned the possible purchase of other residential
properties.
Another resident, did not hear name sounded like Labe mentioned
that this property wasn't actually land-locked.
James Carpenter questioned the use of the property and also increased
traffic flow. He too mentioned the land restrictions.
Ron Bryant - concerned about traffic and also mentioned the school
bus.
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Mr. Rohne, Courthouse Estates mentioned that this was a Class A
development and would like it to remain so.
Mr. Labe asked if the parties had an option to buy the adjoining
property.
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Mr. McCormack said they do not own everything, they do have an
option to buy the remaining property.
Claudia Farone-If you are able to come in from Route 9, would
you still open the Courthouse road.
Mr. McCormack answered that they would connect to it.
Mrs. Farone added this is what everyone is fighting against.
Roy Urrico Courthouse Drive - What this means is more traffic in the
area and the lives of our children.
Mr. Rohne - if there is objection to this apartment house concept,
I would withdraw, well there is objection, will you withdraw.
Mr. McCormack - not at this particular moment.
Discussion between residents and Mr. McCormack regarding another
entrance into the area.
Mr. Shortell asked if there was any place else where you could
come out onto Glen Lake Road.
Mr. McCormack said no, they exhausted all possibilities.
Mr. Muller remined everyone what they were actually here for
Mr. McCormack can open the third section, what he is asking for
is relief to build the duplex buildings in that one section.
Mr. McCann added that they have not proved hardship.
Mr. McCormack once again came forward and stated that if you feel
that this is not what you want, they we will drop it, we withdraw
the request.
VARIANCE 960 - King Service, Inc. - to construct pump islands
and canopies for gasoline station with less than the required
setbacks.
Representative present.
Mr. Turner asked if there would be any lights on the canopy, the
representative said no.
Mr. Turner asked about signs on the building. Representative said
none now but possibly one on the front.
Mrs. Goetz asked if any back lights were planned, representative
said no lights.
Mr. Sicard asked what the hours would be and representative said
it will be a convenient type store.
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Queensbury Beautification Committee has approved.
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Warren County Planning Board approved.
Motion by Mr. Mills, seconded by Mr. Muller, all voting affirmatively,
RESOLVED THAT Variance No. 960 be approved as it meets the criteria
of area variance, this is minimum relief and reasonable use of the
land.
Approved.
Motion by Mr. Griffin, seconded by Mr. Behr, all voting affirmatively,
RESOLVED THAT THE MEETING ADJOURN.
APPROVED.
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