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Regular meeting of the Zoning Board of Appeals for the Town
of Queensbury was held Wednesday, August 21, 1985 at 7:30 P.M.
Present: Mr. Behr, Mr. Griffin, Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Turner, Mr.
Sicard and Mr. Muller
Absent: None
Chairman Turner called the meeting to order at 7:30 with the
first item of business being the approval of the minutes of the
previous meeting.
The following variances had corrections and were corrected at
the time by the secretary.
Variance 977 -(2); Variance l005~ Variance 1006, Variance 1007
and Variance 1008.
Motion by Mr. Behr, seconded by Mrs. Goetz, all voting affirmatively
it was:
Resolved that the minutes of the meeting held July 17, 1985
are hereby approved subject to corrections noted on original
minutes.
OLD BUSINESS - Variance No. 1009 Arthur J. Buckley, Hillman
Road, Cleverdale, NY
Represented by Attorney Mark Schachner - Attorney Schachner
stated that this is a request for a area varience to construct
a new permanent residence in place of the present camp. He
added that swales would be installed along both property lines
and will be drained towards Lake George. There will be no
drainage problem from the Buckley property onto the neighbors.
Mr. Schachner mentioned that it was his opinion that the Buckleys
had met the 4 criteria for this request. Mr. Schachner introduced
the engineer involved ~r. Cotton.
Attorney Stewart was again present representing the property
owner Charles Lock. He mentioned that he had no chance to examine
the plans as they were not available when he called during the
day. He mentioned the continual problem of water in the immediate
area.
Mr. James Ingles another neighbor also spoke about the continual
water problem.
Attornev Schachner added that the plans available here tonight
were no-rendering or sketch. This is in fact a too scale
plan by a licensed Professional Engineer who is present to answer
any questions. He added that the septic tank would be replaced
with a new improved system that will meet all requirements.
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Mr. Cotton next described the gutter system.
Mary Lock requested time so that they could have their own engineer
look over the plans and answer their questions for them.
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It was suggested that this matter be tabled again for 30 days
to allow Mr. Stewart's clients to have the plans and have their
~/ engineer examine them.
Public Hearing closed.
MR. Sicard added that this request seemed to be fair.
Motion by Mr. Sicard, seconded by Mr. Muller, all voting
affirmatively, it was
RESOLVED THAT Variance 1009 be tabled for the next Zoning Board
Meeting to give the neighbors involved a chance to look over
the plans and have an engineer check them. All plans are to be
presented by the next meeting.
Approved.
NEW BUSINESS:
VARIANCE NO. 1010 - William RO~s, Bay Parkway Assembly Point
To construct a one-family dweì1ing with less than the required
setback.
Represented by Edward Carr.
Mrs. Goetz asked what the other building on the property was.
Mr. Carr said there was a boathouse.
Mrs. Goetz asked when the dock was erected and Mr. Carr said
approximately 1975.
Mr. Behr asked if the structure could be 'pivoted'.
Mr. Car answered originally it was located 15' off the south
property line but the problem was the property owner to the North
has the Wisconsin Mound system and they would end up next to each
other.
Public Hearing opened.
Attorney Robert Stewart said he was immediately to the north of
this project and he had examined the plans very carefully and had
no objection to the proposed plan.
Mr. Lester neighbor to the south also had no objection.
Warren County Planning Board approved.
Motion by Mr. Sicard, seconded by Mr. Muller, all voting affirmatively,
it was
RESOLVED THAT Variance No. 1010 is hereby approved. The location
is the most compatible for the area. This is an undersized lot
and proposed house will be compatible to other dwellings to the north
and south.
Approved.
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VARIANCE NO. lOll - Marc Pratt - To add an additional apartment
in existing dwelling on property not meeting lot size requirement
for a duplex. Property located corner of Boulevard and Quarry
Crossing.
Mrs. Goetz asked if there was an operating business there now.
Mr. Pratt said yes and there is a house on the property
Mr. Turner asked the distance on the west side from the road to
the house.
Mr. Pratt said there is 20'.
Mr. Behr asked if the apartment would be going in upstairs
and Mr. Pratt said no it will go where the existing business is
now.
Public Hearing open.
Clarence Krause said that he has talked with Mr. Pratt and he has
no objections. He only concern was that the existing business be
eliminated.
Mr. Muller added that that was what was indicated by Mr. Pratt.
Mr. Krause said that Pratt is not the owner of the building, how
can he ask for the variance and not be the owner.
Mr. Pratt answered that he is legally the owner and if this is
granted, the building and property will be in his name.
Warren County Planning Board approved.
Motion by Mr. Griffin, seconded by Mr. Sicard, all voting affirmatively,
it was
RESOLVED THAT Variance 1011 be approved as the applicant has
demonstrated practical difficulty in that the lot is undersize for
duplex use. The elimination of the business would make an improve-
ment to the area.
Approved.
VARIANCE NO. 1012 - Boats by George, Inc. - to construct a storage
building with less than 50 ft. required setback from residential
use on property situated south side Route 149, 400 ft. east of Rt. 9.
Mr. Pensel represented himsef.
Mr. Turner asked if this would be for winter storage and Mr. pensel
answered for both winter and summer.
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Mr. Muller mentioned the Northern Home Variance and the possibility
of it being similar.
Mr. Dean said it is only the residential use that brings this here
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Public Hearing open and closed.
Warren County Planning Board approved.
Motion by Mr. Muller, seconded by Mr. Turner, all voting
affirmatively, it was
RESOLVED THAT Variance No. lOl2 be approved. Practical difficulty
has been shown a 50' side set back from the Peacock Estate has
been granted. This is a pre existing nonconforming use in a
highway commercial zone.
Approved.
VARIANCE 1013 - J. R. Sousa & Sons, Inc. - to place a price sign
size 4 ft. by 5 ft. on existing free standing sign in neighborhoon
commercial zone. Property Aviation and Dixon Roads.
Represented by John Cary.
Sign Variance request.
Public hearing opened and closed.
Letter from the Queensbury Beautification Committee read.
Mr. Sicard asked if there would be any lighting on the sign and
Mr. Cary answered no.
Motion by Mr. Sicard, seconded by Mr. Behr, all voting affirmatively
RESOLVED THAT Variance No. 1013 be approved as this is the most
appropriate sign for the area and the other signs will be removed.
Approved.
VARIANCE NO. 1014 - Donald Kruger - to construct a duplex dwelling
on lot with less than 10,000 ft. in Urban Residential zone
on property west side Meadowbrook Road, north of Cronin Road.
Mr. Kruger represented himself. He said that his plans called for
duplex buildings with one bedroom units with brick front.
Mr. Sicard asked how he would overcome the water problem in the area.
Mr. Kruger said he was planning to bring in fill and that this
particular building would not have a basement, it would be on a
slab.
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Mr. Muller asked if each unit would have just the one bedroom and
Mr. Kruger said yes..
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Mr. Turner had concern regarding the septic systems and parking.
Mr. Kruger said that parking would be to the front and sides of the
buildings.
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Public Hearing open.
Mr. Piper neighbor across the street said he didn't feel the
lot is the right size for this and also concerned about the
drainage.
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David W!ll~c neighbor to the south concerned about septic system
and fields.
Mr. Kruger said the septic system would be in the front in the
event of a future main Town system.
Mr. Sicard added that you certainly can't park over a system or a
leach field.
Mrs. Goetz asked if parking could be put to the rear and Mr. Kruger
said possibly.
Public Hearing closed.
Motion by Mr. Muller, seconded by Mr. Behr, it was
RESOLVED THAT Variance 1014 be approved with the understanding
that he is building duplex on undersize lot and in every other
respect will meet requirements of the ordinance.
Yes - Mr. Behr, Mr. Sicard and Mr. Muller
No - Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Griffin and Mr. Turner
A tie vote results in a vote to deny.
Denied.
VARIANCE NO. 1015 - John G. Norton To erect residences with less
than one acre required lot size in Lakeshore REsidential 1 Acre
zone property pilot Knob Road and on Lake George.
Mr. Norton was represented by Attorney Michael O'Connor
Mr. Behr asked the total square footage of land in the Town of
Queensbury.
Mr. O'Connor said 1.69 acres. He then showed pictures of the
property and existing buildings to the board. He said there are
three (3) existing buildings on the parcel of land. We do not plan
to change the density but to upgrade the character of the neighborhood.
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We would be replacing three (3) falling down structures with
three (3) new ones.
Mr. O'Connor was asked if this in fact creates three (3) in-
dividual owners and he said it does.
Mr. O'Connor also said that Ray Buckley has done tests there
so he can design systems for the lots to comply. He also
spoke about deeded rights and shore frontage involved.
Much discussion revolved around the survey done by Richard Bennett
and the "high water mark".
Mr. Turner asked who maintains the existing road and Mr. O'Connor
answered the Town.
Mr. Griffin also showed concern regarding the proper measurement
of the~shoreline. He said what shows is very misleading.
The _ ~¥~A....footage of each .proposed lot was discussed.
Public Hearing Open
Attorney Bernice McPhillips, representing Mary Heidorph, concerned
about access. Mrs. Heidorph objects to the plan. She is concerned
because of the over use of the property. There should only be one
(1) house, not three (3).
Attorney Austin Hoffman, representing Dr. & Mrs. Kahn.
He spoke about the shore line measurements and the 1 acre lot in
this particular zone, suggested the variance should be denied as
no specific practical difficulty has been shown.
The following also came forward in opposition to the variance
request: Harold Haywood, Helga Stutz, Mr. Scoville, Lillian Paris,
Shirley Armstrong, Albert Carpenello, Robert Stutz, Michael Hyde LGA.
Bob Rourke, Bert Anthony, Mrs. Anthony, Kit Cornell.
Mr. O'Connor once again made reference to the shoreline survey
saying that it was done according to all the rules and there is
200.94 square feet of waterfront.
Warren County Planning Board approved.
Motion by Mr. Turner, seconded by Mr. Behr, it was
RESOLVED THAT that Variance No. 1015 be denied based on the fact
that the variance would be detrimental to the purpose of the
Ordinance and the property in the district in which the property
is located. The land can be used as zoned and can be used as
Lakeshore Residential 1 acre zone.
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Yes vote is to deny
Yes: Mr. Behr, Mr. Griffin, Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Turner, Mr. Sicard
No: Mr. Muller
Denied.
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After the voting on Variance No. 1015, Attorney O'Connor
questioned or took exception to the Chairman of the Zoning
Board making the motion to deny.
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VARIANCE NO. lOl6 - Ellis J. Sharkey, Jr. to replace porch with
larger porch with less than required 75 ft. setback from lakeshore
in Lakeshore Residential 1 Acre Zone property west side Assembly Point
Road on Lake George.
Mr. Sharkey represented himself. He said he had to repair the present
porch and would like to expand it two ft. to make it more livable.
Public Hearing open
letter in support from Mr. & Mrs. Halem Young.
Public Hearing closed.
Warren County approved.
Motion by Mr. Behr, seconded by Mr. Griffin, all voting
affirmatively, it was
RESOLVED THAT Variance No. 1016 be approved. There will be no
adverse affect on the neighborhood. Two (2) extra feet will in
no way present any problems.
Approved.
Motion by Mr. Sicard, seconded by Mr. Muller, all voting
affirmatively, it was
RESOLVED THAT THE MEETING ADJOURN. l2:05 a.m.
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