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"'-"' Meeting of the Queensbury Zoning Board of ~ppeals held
July 16, 1986 7: 30 p. m.
Present: Mr. Behr, Mr. Griffin, Mrs. Goetz, Mr. Turner,
Mr~ Sicard, Mr. Muller and Mr. Kelley.
First item on the agenda was the approval of the June, 1986
minutes.
Motion by Mr. Behr, seconded by Mrs. Goetz, all voting
affirmatively, it was
RESOLVED THAT the minutes of the June 18, 1986 meeting are
hereby approved subject as corrected.
OLD BUSINBSS:
VARIAN'Cm NO. 1097, Henry C. Knoblauch & Sons, Inc., E/S
Connecticut Avenue.
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Chairman Turner announced that Variance No. 1097 would be
tabled until the, ~ugust meeting.
Tabled.
V ARIANCE NO ~ 1098, Charle s and Barbara Ingraham, Sunset
Avenue.
Represented by the owners, Charles and Barbara Ingraham.
This Variance was tabled at last months meeting for more
information~
Barbara Ingraham stated that they had checked with Mrs.
Clume's son and that they were definitely not interested in
selling any of their property at this time and that they
were, in fact, in the process of buying Mr. Liapes' two
lots.
Motion by Mr. Muller, seconded by Mr. Sicard, all voting
affirmatively, it was
RESOLVED THNr Variance No. 1098 be approved. The applicant
has demonstrated a hardship in that they cannot build a
"-.. single family residence on this narrO\ll preexisting lot. They
have also determined that they cannot purchase surrounding
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lots.
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NEW BUSINESS:
VARIANC!~l'ifO. 1099 - Karen A. Shevlin, 220 Fifth Street
Extension - to construct a one car detached garage with 3
ft. side setback in lieu of the required 10ft. side setback
in a Urban Residential 10 Zone.
Represented by the owner, Karen A. Shevlin.
Mr. Turner asked how long Karen Shevlin has owned the
property~ She stated that she has been there for 2 years.
Mr. Turner asked if there were a reason why the garage could
not be moved 5 ft. to the right in back of the house. r~r.
Behr interjected that the garage must also be 10 ft. from
the house. Karen Shevlin said that would be alright.
Public Hearing Opened and Closed with no public comment.
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Motion by Mr. Behr, seconded by Mr. Griffin, all voting
affirmatively, it was
RESOLVED THAT Variance 1099 be approved. Practical hardship
is the narrowness of the lot. Side setback will be 6 ft.
instead of 3 ft.
A.pproved ~
VARI~~W]!} No ~ 1100 - Glen Square, Nigro Real Estate, Route 9,
Glen Street - to place an oversize directional sign and to
place an oversize shopping center sign showing tenants names
in Plaza Commercial 1A Zone.
~epresented by the owner, John Nigro:
Mr. Turner asked if Mr. Nigro wa.s aware that all signs must
comply by August 14, 1986. Mr. Nigro made no comment.
Mr. 1'\fi gro stated that at present the Glen Square complex
does not have any signage.
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Long discussion followed on the type of signs, the placement
of said signs and the traffic patterns of Route 9.
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~rs. Goetz asked why they needed an 80 sq. ft sign. Mr.
Nigro stated that the experts say they need a large sign for
readability of the Southbound traf'fic.
Mr. Griffin asked how high the sign would be. Mr. Nigro
stated that the sign would be 10 ft.
Mr. Kelley stated that if a 50 sq. ft. sign were put in it
would still be effective. Mr. Nigro stated that the bigger
the sign the more money he would have to spend. All he is
looking for is rea(iability at a distance.
Mr. Muller stated that the way the property is situated is
unique and that perhaps two signs would not be unreasonable.
Mr. Muller asked Mr. Nigro if he knew anything about the
status of the placement of a traffic light on Route 9. Hr.
Nigro answered that he was in the offices of the Grand Union
Company on Monday and that they had received a letter from
the Department of Transportation outlining the plan for the
traffic light. The request for permission to install a
traffic light was delayed until the state completes a
widening of the Easterly side of Route 9. The Grand Union
believes that the traffic light should be installed by
October of 1987.
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Public Hearing Opened and Closed with no public comment.
Warren County Planning Board disapproved and modified with
conditions~ The recommendation for the approval of the
second free-standing (Glen Square) entrance sign (18 sq.
ft.) was OK but they recommended ¡ienial of the 80 sq. ft.
sign as well as store identification signs.
Motion by Mr. Kelley, seconded by Mr. Muller, all voting
affirmatively, it was
RESOLVED THAT Variance No. 1099 be approved with
stipulations. The Glen Square pylon sign would conform to
50 sq~ ft~ including the names of the four tenants. The
names of the four tenants have to be incorporated in the
total 50 sq. ft~ The location is unique with definite site
problems~ Glen Square entrance sign as proposed would be
approved.
Approved.
VARIANCE NO. 1101 - Richard P~ Mechanick, VaQDusen Road - to
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place a mobile home on lot outside zone designated for
single site mobile home placement in Suburban Residential
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Represented by Barbara 'Eggleston.
Mr. Turner asked if it was a modular. Barbara Eggleston
replied that it was a double wide.
Wlr. Behr asked if there was a fire hydrant on the property.
Barbara Eggleston replied no there was not.
Mr. Griffin asked if the lot had city water. Barbara
Eggleston replied that there was a well on the property.
Public Hearing Opened and Closed with no public comment.
Motion by Mrs: Goetz, seconded by l\~r. Sicard, all voting
affirmat i vely, it was
RESOLVED THAT Variance No. 1101 be approved. The hardship
is that the area is surrounded by mobile homes and that it
is adjacent to a large planned mobile home site.
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VARIANC'E NO~ 1102 - Bass Shoe Factory Outlet, Queensbury
Plaza~
This Variance was tabled until the August meeting.
Tabled.
VARIANCE NO. 1103 - Howard W. Fischer, Jr., Route 9L (Upper
Rid ge Road) - to co ntruct a 22 ft. x 20 ft. garage in back
yard with a 10 ft. side setback in lieu of the required 20
ft. side setback in a Rural Residential 5 Acre Zone.
Represented by the owner, Howard W. Fischer.
Mr; Turner asked if Mr. Fischer could live with a 12 ft.
side setback. Mr. Fischer said that was OK.
Public Hearing Opened and Closed wi th no public comment.
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Warren County Planning Board approved~
Motion by Mr. Turner, seconded by Mr. Griffin, all voting
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affirmatively, it was
~ RESOLVED THAT Variance No. 1103 be approved. Because of
practical difficulty, as mentioned in the application, that
being to avoid cutting off access to the backyard. The
proposed garage will have a 12 ft~ side setback instead of
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V~BI~NCE WOo 1104 - Bradmark Broadcasting, Country Club and
Sweet Roads - to install a 180 ft. AM radio transmission
tower in a Single Family Residential Zone.
Represented by Attorney Mark Schachner and the owner of the
radio station Mr: Don Heckman.
Atty. Schachner stated that the to'werwould be a neutral
gray color ~
Mr~ Behr asked if the tower would need an underground grid.
Mr~ Heckman said yes and the size of the grid would be 300
ft: in one direction and 350 ft~ in the other as prescribed
by the FCC. Mr. Heckman also stated that the grid would
have no effect on television or radion reception in the
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The tower will sit 175 ft~ in from the edge of the property.
Atty~ Schachner stated that this parcel of land is extremely
wet and that it would not have an affect on the neighborhood
other than visual~ It is the intention of the owner to keep
this area wooded to act as a buffer~
Mr. Griffin asked if the property has been for sale. Atty.
Schachner stated that it was for sale for some time wi th no
takers for single family residential. Mr. DeSantis and Mr.
Galloway purchased the property recently.
Mr. Behr asked if any other locations are being checked
into~ Atty. Schachner stated that yes they had but felt
that this was the best location for the tower.
Mr~ Behr asked if anything other than the tower would be put
on the property~ Atty~ Schachner stated that there would
also be a transmitting house.
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Long discussion followed on the placement of the tower in
town and the FCC rulings on the procedure.
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Public Hearing Opened ~
Mr. Bob Blanchard, 49 Sweet Road. Mr~ Blanchard thinks it
will definitely devalue his property.
Mr; Ron Mont isi, 18 TJIeado'w Dr i ve, Councilman for Ward 2.
Both the business that wants to establish itself and the
neighbors are in his ward~ Mr~ Montisi stated that he and
Fran Walters have had discussions with Mr. HecKman about a
possible location for his business and tower. Mr. Montisi
stated that up until 10 years ago Sweet Road had several
mobile homes on it and at that time was going downhill. It
was not a goo{l part of town: In the last 10 years that has
'reversed itself. Property in that area does have water
problems but they are not insurmountable. The area is
comi ng back and it is 1JIr. Mont isi' s hope that it stays that
way.
Mr. Peter Tarana 27 Edgewood Drive. He believes that it
will definitely lower property values. He also wonders just
how much of the wooded area can be kept intact when the grid
system is installed.
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Mr~ Bill Bishop, 39 Sweet Road. Mr. Bishop stated that he
works for a construction company and is familiar with
construction of single family residences and he believes
that the piece of property in question could be 11Seò. for a
single family dwelling.
Alice Linscott, 23 Edgewood Drive~ She opposes the project
because she feels it will devalue her property anrl she feels
that it also imposes a hazard to children. The property was
zoned single [ami ly anrl she feels that it should remain so ~
Mr. Scott Solberg, 18 Edgewood Drive~ He also feels that it
vvould devalue his property and that it will be a visual
eyesor e.
Mr. Steve Dougherty, 14 Edgewood Drive. He said that he
would not enjoy looking at this tower all the time.
Mr. Dan Valenti, 60 Sweet Road. Mr. Valenti stated that he
offered to purchase this piece of property two years ago. He
wanted to purchase this property to protect himself since it
is next to his property. Mr. Valenti is the developer of
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Country Club Estates and he stated that he 1')elieves he could
put a house on this lot. He also stated that the Dept. of
Environmental Conservation would be interested in this
project and ìrrollld not go along with it because this
particular piece of wet property feeds Halfway Brook. Mr.
Valenti stated he has four additional lots in this area and
that they are not for sale at this time.
Jenny Rodriguez, 16 Edgewood Drive: She has lived here for
9 years~ She stated that all the people in this
neighborhood try very hard to keep their property nice and
that this project would hurt the neighborhoocl very much.
Mr~ Robert Weidenberg, 6 Edgewood Drive. He opposes for a
number of reasons already given~
Mr. Robert Griffin, 4 Edgewood Drive. He stated that 20
years ago he started E<igewood Park for residential purposes.
Be wants to keep it as it is~
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Pat Krum, 60 Country Club Road. She stated that she has a
substantial investment in her piece of property and that no
matter how unobtrusive someone tells her this tower is going
to be she still has to get up in the morning and if she
looks out her window she will have to look at it. She stated
she has four children ancl is concerned about the safety
factor for them as well as all the other children who use
the bike path. She sees absolutely no advantage to the Town
to ¡rraive this Variance. She sees no advantage to this tower
other than the owners making a lot of money.
Laura Mitchell, 8 Edgewood Drive. She has lived there for 5
years and she stated that she just wanted to support her
neighbors in the opposition of this project~
Sharon Kelley, 10 Edgewood Drive. She believes that it
would be very obtrusive to the view she now enjoys~
Liz Valenti, 60 Sweet Drive; She stated that the Town has
stated in no Qncertainterms the direction it wants to go by
imposing the Recreation fee: She believes that by passing
this Variance it would be a <Erect contradiction to what the
Town Board has already stated;
Betty Noordsy, 12 Edgewood Drive. She opposes for the
rea¡30ilS already gi vena
Mr~ Gary O'Connor, 37 Edgewood Drive. He feels the same way
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all the rest of his neighbors do~ He strongly opposes this
project~
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"---' r',~ary ,Jane Solberg, 13 Ecigewood Drive. She believes it will
lower her property values.
Mr: Jerry Welcher, 41 Sweet Road. He stated that he moved
to Queensbury a year and a half ago assuming that the Zoning
laws would be strictly enforced and consistent. He WOQld
like to see 'this area maintained the way it is. Mr. \velcher
also stated that since hardship has to be proven he would
like to know what the hardship is?
Public Hear ing Clo se(l ~
At this time Attorney Schachner stated that Bradmark
Broadcasting would like to respectfully withdraw the
application for Variance at this time:
VARIANCE NO. 1105 - Gretchen Sunderland and Keith Wrigley,
Country Club Road - to construct a physical therapy fac ili.. ty
in a Urban Residentail 5 Zone.
Represented by Atty: Robert Kafin and the owners Gretchen
Sunderland and Keith Wrigley.
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Mr ~ Turner state(l that l'{r. Kafin has asked for an
interpretation of the Zoning Ordinance pertaining to the
piece of property. There is a letter in the rile from Atty.
Kafin which was read~
To The Town of Queensbury Building Inspector and Zoning
Board of Appeal s:
We represent Gretchen Sunderland and Keith Wrigley the
contract vendees of an approximately 4.5 acre parcel of land
between the Warren County bikeway and Country Club Road
immediately to the North of the bikeway parking lot. The
Northern border of the parcel is 300 ft. South of Sweet
Road~ The entire parcel is Zoned Urban Residential 5.
Our clients wish to start a physical therapy facility on
this property: We believe that such a facility is a use
permitted in the TJR-5 Zone with Type II Site Plan Review and
l)y this letter we are asking the Zoning Board of Appeals for
an interpretation of the Zoning Ordinance to confirm that
our belief is correct~ In the event that the Zoning Board
disagrees, then we are applying to the Zoning Board for a
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Variance to alloì.rl the use of the property by clients for
their facility~
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The facili ty our clients wish to site is a one story
building of approximately 3,500 sq. ft. with approximately
30 parking spaces. The building would be used to conduct
the following activi ties; fitness classes, bad back
classes, arthritis classes, pregnant women classes,
nutrition counseling,\lIforkshops on stress management, weight
control programs and other activites to improve human health
and well being~ Within the building would be space for
these acti vitiesto take place including a therapy pool,
rooms for physical therapy equipment and exercise floor,
etc; Staff would include a physical therapist, exercise
physiologist and others trained in physical fitness~ Under
Section 4;020-d (2) of the Zoning Ordiance "health related
facilities such as out-patient clinics, laboratories,
physical therapy facilities, etc." are allowed in the UR-5
Zone with Type II Site Plan Review. Our clients proposed
use seems to fit this definition and we respectfully request
that the Zoning Boar(l concur in 011r interpretation of the
Zoning Ordinance;
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Mr~ Turner asked Atty: Kafin what the relationship of the
clients to this application would be other than being a
contract vendee and are they registered to practice. Atty.
Karin stated that Gretchen Sunderland is a individual with a
~1aster' s Degree in exercise physiology: As far as Atty.
Kafin is aware there is no licensing program for
physiologists of this type in the state of New York.
staff however, there are people who do hold licenses
practice their professions such as registered nurses
physical therapists:
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Mr~ Behr asked if this were just glorified aerobics. Atty.
Kafin stated that he (lid not think it would be fair to
eharacterize it that way. Atty~ Kafin stated that
approximately 16 physicians in the area prescribe therapy at
Miss Sunderland's business as part of their prescription for
the treatment of various kinds of physical ailments. This
is not a dance studio or a recreation club but a genuinely
professional facility to provide physical therapy of a
variety of kinds for people with a variety of different
types of ailments as well as practicing some preventative
activities; Mr~ Behr asked for a definition of what exactly
a physiologiJJt is; ~vU8S Sim<1erlan(l stated that she has a
~JIaster' s Degree in Exercise Physiology and that it is a
fairly ne1rr field; It is the study of kinesiology which is
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the study o.c' physics of movement and nutri tional aspects of
fitness~ Miss Sunderland stated that this degree is one
step òeyoncl a physical therapist degree~ She also stated
that she has an undergraduate degree in kinesiology~
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Mr. Turner asked if down the road TvTi ss Sunderlan(l ì.rroulcl be
getting into anything such as aerobics. Miss Sunderland
stated that aerobics is also a part of the program now. She
also stated that they would like to get into cardiac
rehabili tation~
Long discussion followed on whether or not this should go to
the Planning Boarcl for a Type II Site Plan Review.
Although no public hearing had to be held Mr~ Turner allowed
several of the neighbors to give their opposition to this
project~
f10tion by ~J[r; T>1:uller, seconded by Mr: Sicard, one negative
vote (Mrs~ Goetz), it was
RESOLVJ~D THAT Variance No. 1105 be sent to the Planning
Board for Type II Site Plan Review~ This is a motion in
support of the proposition that the proposecl project is one
that requires a UR-5 Site Plan Revieì.rr Type II t1.se by the
Queensbury Planning Board.
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Approved~
VARIANCE NO ~ 1106 - C. G.\100dbury & Son, Inc., 679 Upper
Glen Street - to plac e an addition with a 16ft. front
setback in lieu of the required 50 ft. front setback in a
Plaza Commercial 1 A Zone~
Represente(l hy Wooclbury representative Ted Bigelow.
Mr~ Turner asked if the height of the present building would
be maintained; Mr; Bi gelo\Ñ stated yes:
Mr~ Turner asked how many additional offices were proposed.
Mr~ Bigelow stated the entire project would be an open
office space with moveaòle partitions: This will be an
expansion of the bookkeeping department and some executive
offices;
ì1r ~ Bigelow descrihed just how the proposed building would
sit on the property and the landscaping of the area.
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Public Hear ing Openecl and Closed wi th no pl1b 1 ic COnlr11e nt.
Warren County Planning Board approved but modified with
'--' condi tions~ Stipulation that applicant in their landscaping
plan eliminate all parking along front of the building~
The Queensbury Beautification Commi ttee also had the same
stipulation as the vlTarren County Planning Board.
Motion by Mr~ Griffin, seconded by Mrs. Goetz, all voting
affirmatively, it was
RESOLVED THAT Variance No. 1106 be approved. The applicant
has demonstrated practical difficulty. This is the logical
place to expand their office space: Thi s is a reasonable
request~ The Queensbury Committee for Community
Eeautification and Warren County Planning Board stipulation
ì.dll apply ~
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VARIANCE NO~ 1107 - Richard and Christine Mozal, Fitzgerald
Road - to place a deck with less than the required front and
side setbacks in a Si ngle Fanlily Residential 30 Zone.
~ Represented by Attorney Michael O'Connor~
Mr; Eehr stated that this deck was, in fact, already there.
Atty~ O'Connor stated that it was~
Atty~ O'Connor apologized for the fact that the deck was
alrea(ly there ~ The deck was built in the summer of 1985 by
the applicant~ Atty. O'Connor stated that the applicant was
not mrrare that he needed a variance to build this deck.
Atty. O'Connor stated they have no legitimate excuse but
that it was an honest mistake. The neighbors do not object
to this deck~ (Petitions presented) The deck is not very
visible from the lake~
Mr~ Griffin asked if a building permit had been issued for
this deck~ Atty. O'Connor stated no.
Long discussion followed on the topography of this lot ~
Public Hearing Opened~
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Mr; David Zanick' neighbor (60 ft. away)~
that the deck added an extra safety factor
Mr. Zanick stated
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He also stated that all of the people on Glen Lake have
sinÜlar problems - no backyar<ls.
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~arren County Planning Board approved;
Motion by Mr; Muller, seconded by Mr~ Turner, all voting
affirmati vely, it ì.rras
RESOLVED THAT Variance No: 1107 be approved. Site is unique
i'1. topography; It's unfortunate that the deck was already
construe teel but the Board believes this was done in good
faith. An on site inspection by the building inspector's
o:f:fice should be clone for safety checks an(l the applicant
must pay the building permit fee based on the value of the
construction.
Approved~
VARIANCE NO. 1108 - ]Jesl ie Sommers (SUDS-R-US, Inc.), Upper
Glen Street - to operate a dry cleaning business in an
exi sting build ing in a PI aza Commerc ÜÜ lA Zo ne.
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Represented by Attorney ~arl Matte;
Atty; Matte stated that a Variance is needed because a dry
cleaning establishment is not mentioned anywhere in the
Ordinance: There will be no laundry type business done on
the premises~
Mr; Turner asked if there would be any hazardous waste
material~ Atty~ Matte stated no and that the EPA had no
interest in the project~
Public Hearing Opened and Closed with no public cOltvnent.
Warren County Planning Board approve<i;
Motion by Mr; Turner, seconded by Mr. Sicard, all voting
affirmatively, it was
RESOLVED THAT Variance i'ifo. 1108 be approved. Ordinance
doesn't describe dry cleaning use in any zone. Previous use
of the building (Inside Edge) was commercial; No adverse
effect on the neighborhood~ No reasonable return:
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VARIANCE NO ~ 1109 - Communi ty Workshop, Inc:, Everts Avenu.e
- to continue to use mobile home classroom on lot outside
zone designated for single site mobile home placement.
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Represented by Attorney ì18.lcolm 0' Hara~
Atty: O'Hara stated that they cannot predict the number of
students in the pro gram so they don't know how long the
mobile home will be needed as a classroom~
Mr: Behr asked if Atty~ O'Hara wanted a one year extension~
Atty~ O'Hara stated they would greatly appreciate aa
extension beyon<i one year:
Mr~ Turner asked if 5 years with no transfer of the Variance
would help~ Atty~ O'Hara stated that wou.ld be great.
Public Hearing Opened~
Sandra Clark, 29 Everts Avenue~ Mrs. Clark said she was not
aware the mobile was there until she received the letter for
this meeting and went to look for it~ She is not for it or
against it, just curious about what it is used for ~
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Warren County Planning Board approved~
Motion by Mr~ Behr, seconded by Mr~ Griffin, all voting
affirmatively, it was
RESOJ,/ir8JD T'1AT Variance No~ 1109 be approved. This approval
is for a 5 year use: The use would be for this owner only
and for the present use only~ The 1t101)ile hOlil") \trill be kept
in its' present location~ If this use is terminated before
the 5 year period ends the Variance is autom8.tically
terminated~
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VARIANCE NO~ 1110 - Thomas and Mena Mazza, 49 Kensington
Road - to TJlace an ac1di tion with a 22 ft. front setback in
lieu 0 r: th~ required 30 ft ~ front setback in a Single Family
Residential 10 Zone.
Represented by Thomas Ulbrecht, Hilltop Contruction~
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The additio'1. to be one story. Home is also very narrow~
Grounds to be landscaped~
.~ Public Hearing Opened and Closed:
\¡farren County Planning Board approved ~
ìv1otion by T1r ~ Kelley, seconded by Mr ~ .Sicard, all voting
affirmatively, it was
RESOLVED THAT Variance No. 1110 be approve(i: Rear porches
make it impossible to add to the rear and it is the logical
place to locate the addition~
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Motion by Mr ~ Sicard, sec onded by ~1r ~ Tur ner, all vot in.g
affirmati vely, it was
RESOLVED THAT the meeting adjourn, 11 :30 p.m.
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