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QUEENSBURY ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
Regular Meeting held: Wednesday, September 17, 1986 @ 7:30 P.M.
Present: Gustave Behr, acting Chairman
Charles O. Sicard
Jeffrey L. Kelley
Stuart F. Mesinger, Senior Planner
Susan Goetz, Secretary
Daniel S. Griffin .
Michael Muller
S~an E. Davidsen, Stenographer
Absent:
Theodore Turner, Chairman
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 P.M. by Gustave Behr, acting Chairman
who at this time asked for a motion for approval of the August 1986 minutes.
Susan Goetz made several cOlTections in regards to the August 1986 minutes.
Motion by Charles O. Sicard, second by Susan Goetz, all voting affirmatively,
RESOLVED THAT the minutes of the August 1986 meeting are hereby approved subject
to cOlTection.
Approved.
NEW BUSINESS
AREA VARIANCE NO. 1140
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Susan Goetz introduced the applicant as Bruce Frulla of Library Avenue Extension,
Wa1Tensburg, New York. Bruce Frulla's proposed use and location of the property was
stated: to construct a duplex on a .9Z acre parcel (approximately 40,300 square feet)
in lieu of the required 43,000 square feet on the property situated between Corinth and
Pitcher Roads, ZOO feet west of VanDusen Road in a Suburban Residential 30 Zone.
Bruce Frulla represented himself and submitted a letter into the record regarding
the difficulty in selling the property. Susan Goetz stated that the issue is not the allowable
use of the property, instead it is the area shortage of .08 acre. A question was asked
as to whether other property could be purchased. The answer was "No". Bruce Frulla
supplied the Board with a plot plan of the proposed duplex with (Z) two entrances on Pitcher
and Corinth Roads.
Public Hearing Opened: Ronald Akins, who resides across the street asked to see
a site plan. He stated that he was not objecting to the proposed project, but objected
to the en.trance on Corinth Road, stating that it is unsafe.
Public Hearins¡ Closed.
Susan Goetz read the resolution by the Wa1Ten County Planning Board for the proposal
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which was approved without comment. Charles O. Sicard asked Bruce Frulla what hardship
would it be to him to not have Corinth Road used as an entrance. Bruce Frulla stated
that he would not have (2) two private entrances.
A motion was made by Jeffrey L. Kelley to approve the variance based on the fact
that a practical difficulty has been demonstrated. There is ample land for placement
of the proposed duplex without infrin~ing on setbacks.
Second by Charles O. Sicard, all voting affirmatively
RESOLVED THAT Variance No. 1140 be approved as the applicant has demonstrated
practical difficulty in that he has ample land with no infringement on the sideline setbacks.
Ap¡roved.
AREA VARIANCE NO. 1141
Susan Goetz introduced the applicant as Charles and Ellen Hodge of 8 Prospect Drive,
Queensbury, New York. Charles and Ellen Hodge's proposed use and location of the property
was stated: to construct a carport with less than the required side setback - (4) four feet
(9) nine inch setback in lieu of the required (10) ten feet on the property situated at 8
Prospect Drive in an Urban Residential 5 Zone.
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Karen Stockwell represented Charles and Ellen Hodge, her parents. Karen Stockwell
stated that her father, Charles Hodge is disabled and that approval of the proposed project
will help in regards to easier access to the house.
Daniel S. Griffin stated that the fence between the lots was not on the property
line. Also, a question concerning the enclosure of the carport was asked by Susan Goetz.
Karen Stockwell replied and confirmed that the front would not be closed, otherwise it
would be a garage.
Public Hearing Opened: no comment
Public Hearing Closed.
A motion was made by Daniel S. Griffin to approve the variance based on the fact
that all lots in the neighborhood are small. In addition, a health problem demonstrates
practical difficulty. There is no adverse effect on the neighborhood since there are other
carports in the area.
Second by Michael Muller, all voting affirmatively
RESOLVED THAT Variance No. 1141 be approved as the applicant has demonstrated
practical difficulty due to a health problem. Also, the lots are small and there is no adverse
effect on the neighborhood since there are other carports in the area.
Approved.
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AREA VARIANCE NO. 114Z
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Susan Goetz introduced the applicant as Walter and Maria Fisher of Nottingham
Drive, Glens Falls, New York. Walter and Maria Fisher's proposed use and location of
the property was stated: to use a (19) nineteen acre parcel of property for farming, to
include livestock boarding and rearing, annual and perennial planting, and harvesting grains
and fruits in a Light Industrial lA Zone on the property situated on the west side of County
Line Road, east of the Warren County Airport.
Gustave Behr stated that there were (3) three other zoning classifications nearby.
Walter and Maria Fisher represented themselves. Walter Fisher stated that his
ownership of the property was contingent on the approval of the proposed variance by
the Board. There was much discussion between the board members and Walter Fisher
in regards to his reasons for farming in a Light Industrial Zone. Also, there was concern
as to the length of time that this parcel of property has been for sale. Walter Fisher said
that there was insufficient demand for Light Industry in Queensbury, at the present time,
to use the propel"ty as presently zoned. Granting the variance would improve the appearance
of the pl"opel"ty and would not prevent the land from being used for industrial use in the
future.
Public Hearing Opened: A neighbor residing to the south of the property stated
that the parcel has been for sale for approximately (6) six years, specifically referring
to a sign advertising the sale of said property. There was also doubt as to the technicality
of the name given to the road (known as County Line Road) situated on the east side of
said property. A cOlTection was in order and noted. The name of the road, technically,
is Queensbury A venue.
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Public Hearing Closed.
Susan Goetz read the resolution by the Warren County Planning Board for the proposal
which was approved without comment.
A motion was made by Charles O. Sicard to approve the variance, stating that this
would be good use of the property at the present time. Furthermore, at any later date
the use can be changed back for the purposes of Light Industrial usage. Financial hardship
has been demonstrated by the neighbor's statement that the property has been for sale
for (6) six years for Light Industrial use.
Second by Michael Muller, all voting affirmatively
RESOLVED THAT Variance No. 114Z be approved as the proposal is a good use of the
property at the present time. Also, at any later date, the use can be changed back to
Light Industrial use. Financial hardship has been demonstrated by a neighbor's statement
that the property has been for sale (6) six years for Light Industrial use.
Approved.
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AREA VARIANCE NO. 1143
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Susan Goetz introduced the applicant as John W. Cornell of Route 40, Box 2048,
Hartford, New York. John W. Cornell's proposed use and location of the property was
stated: to replace an existing camp with a year-round dwelling. The existing camp has
a (38) thirty eight foot setback from Glen Lake. The new house would be (40) forty feet
from the lake on the property situated off of Hall Road on Glen Lake in a Single Family
Residential 30 Zone.
John W. Cornell represented himself and stated that there is a problem in regards
to the location of the septic system for the proposed new house. John W. Cornell had
previously received a variance to place the new house at a (45) forty-five foot setback
from the lake. However, when the property was surveyed it was discovered that the house
would be nearly on top of the septic system at (45) forty-five feet from the lake; therefore
the applicant now wished to place the building at a (40) forty foot setback.
Public Hearing Opened: no comment
Public Hearing Closed:
Susan Goetz read the resolution by the Warren County Planning Board for the proposal
which was approved without comment.
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A motion was made by Charles O. Sicard to approve the variance, stating that this
is a reasonable request based on the fact that a survey was done in regards to the location
of the septic system which was accurately designated.
Second by Michael Muller, all voting affirmatively
RESOLVED THAT Variance No. 1143 be approved as this is a reasonable request. A survey
was done and the location of the septic system was accurately designated.
Approved.
USE VARIANCE NO. 1145
Susan Goetz introduced the applicant as Ellen A. Morgan of R. D. #4, Corinth Road,
Glens Falls, New York. Ellen A. Morgan's proposed use and location of the property was
stated: to place a mobile home on a parcel of property, outside of a zone designated for
single site mobile home placement on the property situated on the south side of Corinth
Road, across from VanDusen Road in a Urban Residential 10 Zone.
Emily Akins represented Ellen A. Morgan, her daughter. Emily Akins stated clearly
that this was only a temporary usage of the property so that her daughter could have the
chance to "get back on her feet", financially speaking. A one year-renewable variance
was asked to be granted. Gustave Behr stated that at the end of the year the applicant
would have to apply and appear before the Zoning Board of Appeals again if an extension
was desired. Mr. Akins intervened and proceeded to ask for approval of the variance for
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(3) three years. Daniel S. Griffin questioned what would be an appropriate length of time
for a temporary variance. He also stated that all requirements of the building code would
have to be met if a temporary variance were granted.
Public Hearing Opened: no comment
Public Hearing Closed.
Susan Goetz read the resolution by the Warren County Planning Board for the proposal
which was denied based on the fact that the property is not zoned for mobile homes and
that this variance would be detrimental to the intended character of this residential
neighborhood.
The Board then discussed the requirements for granting a use variance. Michael
Muller and Gustave Behr both agreed and stated that a financial hardship had not been
demonstrated - there was no evidence presented that showed that the property could not
yield a reasonable return if used as presently zoned. Board members noted that the question
of how long a temporary variance should be granted for was moot if the tests for issuing
a Use Variance could not be met to begin with.
A motion was made by Jeffrey L. Kelley to deny the variance. He stated that said
proposed use does not meet the criteria for granting the use variance although we, the
board members, are sympathetic to the testimony presented this evening.
Second by Michael Muller, all voting affirmatively
\') RESOLVED THAT Variance No. 1145 be denied as the use does not meet the criteria for
granting the use variance - although we are sympathetic to the testimony presented this
evening.
Denied.
AREA VARIANCE NO. 1146
Susan Goetz introduced the applicant as Don J. and Diana R. Siano of Box 133, Star
Route, Fox Road, Glens Falls, New York. Don J. and Diana R. Siano's proposed use and
location of the property was stated: to construct a hew home at less than the required
(50) fifty feet setback on all sides on the property situated at the north side pf Fox Road,
off of Upper Ridge Road, east of Jennifer Lane and, west of Hunter Lane in a Land
Conservation 42 Zone.
Don J. Siano represented himself and stated that a cOITection was in order in regards
to the specific directions of the surrounding public roadways in conjunction with said
property. The cOITection was: "...on the property situated...west of Jennifer Lane and,
east of Hunter Lane...". Also, the house was to be (72) seventy-two feet long, not (69)
sixty-nine as stated in the application. Therefore, there was an additional (3) three foot
encroachment on the side setback.
Jeffrey L. Kelley asked Don J. Siano why the house was not centered on the lot.
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Don J. Siano's reply and reason was to have a larger lot on one side of the house with a
garage. Gustave Behr stated that this was a preexisting - nonconforming subdivision.
The lot sizes are such that none can meet the Town's cUlTent setback requirements.
Public Hearing Opened: no comment
Public Hearing Closed.
Susan Goetz read the resolution by the Wan-en County Planning Board for the proposal
which was approved without comment.
A motion was made by Daniel S. Griffin to approve the variance based on the fact
that practical difficulty was demonstrated. The setbacks cannot be met as this subdivision
was established before the present zoning requirements. The Board has granted other
variances in the area.
Second by Charles O. Sicard, all voting affirmatively
RESOLVED THAT Variance No. 1146 be approved based on the fact that practical difficulty
is demonstrated. The setbacks cannot be met as this subdivision was established before
the present zoning requirements. The Board has granted other variances in the area.
Approved.
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AREA VARIANCE NO. 1147
Susan Goetz introduced the applicant as Allen Rozelle, Jr. of R. D. :/f2, Box 229,
Fuller Road, Glens Falls, New York. Allen Rozelle, Jr.'s proposed use and location of
the property was stated: to build an addition on an existing dwelling with a (12) twelve
foot side setback in lieu of the required (20) twenty foot side setback on the property
situated at the corner of Main and Rozelle Streets in a Highway Commercial 15 Zone.
Gustave Behr clarified the location of the proposed addition to the dwelling. Further,
he asked what trees would be removed.
Daniel S. Griffin asked if this was a (2) two family house. Mr. Rozelle's answer
was "Yes".
Public Hearing Opened: no comment
Public Hearing Closed.
Susan Goetz read the resolution by the Wan-en County Planning Board for the proposal
which was approved without comment.
A motion was made by Susan Goetz to approve the variance based on the fact that
a practical difficulty has been demonstrated. The area was previously zoned Residential
when the house was built. The present setback requirements are unreasonable given the
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fact that the house was built so long ago.
Second by Daniel S. Griffin, all voting affirmatively
RESOLVED THAT Variance No. 1147 be approved as the applicant has demonstrated
practical difficulty. The area was previously zoned Residential when the house was built.
The present setback requirements are unreasonable given the fact that the house was
built so long ago.
Approved.
AREA VARIANCE NO. 1148
Susan Goetz introduced the applicant as Truman W. Gleason of R. D. :/f4, Box 505,
Big Bay Road, Glens Falls, New York. Truman W. Gleason's proposed use and location
of the property was stated: to replace an existing older mobile home with a newer mobile
home with a (19) nineteen foot setback in lieu of the required (20) twenty foot setback
on the property situated on the west side of Big Bay Road, approximately (300) three
hundred feet south of Corinth Road in Light Industrial 1 Zone.
Mrs. Gleason represented herself. Gustave Behr asked if a variance was given
previously since they are situated in a Light Industrial Zone. Mrs. Gleason stated that
the trailer was a preexisting nonconforming use. Susan Goetz verified the exact location
of the trailer and the property location.
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Charles O. Sicard asked if the reason for the variance is because of a wider trailer
being bought? Mrs. Gleason answered "Yes".
Public Hearing Opened: no comment
Public Hearing Closed.
Susan Goetz read the resolution by the Wan-en County Planning Board for the proposal
which was approved without comment.
A motion was made by Michael Muller to approve the variance. He stated that the
(1) one foot requested is reasonable. It is a minimum relief to modernize an existing mobile
home.
Second by Charles O. Sicard, all voting affirmatively
RESOLVED THAT Variance No. 1148 be approved. The (1) one foot requested is reasonable.
It is minimum relief to modernizing an existing mobile home.
Approved.
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USE VARIANCE NO. 1149
Susan Goetz introduced the applicant as Marjorie Johnson of 372 Ridge Road, Glens
Falls, New York. Marjorie Johnson's proposed use and location of the property was stated:
The applicant desires the placement of a mobile home which will be utilized for residential
purposes outside of a zone designated for single site mobile home placement on the property
situated on the corner of Feld Avenue and Columbia Street in an Urban Residential 10
Zone.
Garfield Raymond of 320 Bay Road, Glens Falls, represented the applicant.
Gustave Behr questioned the lot size. This was clarified to be (10,170) ten-thousand
one-hundred seventy square feet.
Garfield Raymond stated that this would be a newer mobile home and would be an
upgrade to the neighborhood. Gustave Behr raised the issue of whether or not a hardship
is demonstrated due to the fact that this mobile home will be used for rental purposes.
Garfield Raymond answered, "Yes there would be. You could not construct a single family
residence in that area at an economic factor - that you could charge that kind of rent
for. A placement of a mobile home onto that property would allow you to charge a fair
and reasonable rent and get fa fair return on your money - whereas you wouldn't be able
to do that if you constructed a single family residence. Also, I think that the area should
be rezoned commercial because basically that whole area is commercial."
Gustave Behr brought up an issue concerning the location of the septic system.
Garfield Raymond assured Gustave Behr that it would be in compliance with the Building
Codes. Another issue was raised in regards to the setbacks. Garfield Raymond said that
the mobile home would comply with all setback requirements.
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Gustave Behr stated that the Board is faced with a similar situation as in an earlier
case. There is, again, no firm proof that the property cannot yield a reasonable return
if used aspresently zoned.
Susan Goetz stated that the Board has granted other mobile home variances in this
area because of the general character of the neighborhood.
Public HearinR Opened: no comment
Public HearinR Closed.
Jeffrey L. Kelley asked if the applicant has tried to sell the property as a building
lot for a single family residence. Mr. Raymond replied, "No."
Gustave Behr stated that the adjacent lot owned by the applicant has a single family
dwelling on the lot. Mr. Raymond said that this structure is dilapidated and that a newer
mobile home would be' an improvement. He reiterated his belief that the lot could not
be sold for single family residential purposes.
The Board discussed the legal tests for a Use Variance. The Board agreed that while
a mobile home would not be out of character for the neighborhood, there was no hard
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evidence showing that the property could not yield a reasonable return if used as presently
zoned.
Mr. Raymond asked that the Board table the application so that he could obtain
more evidence in regards to the value of the lot for single family residential use.
A motion was made by Charles O. Sicard to Table the application based on the fact
that more information is needed in reference to the value of the property for single family
residential use.
Second by Michael Muller, all voting affirmatively
RESOLVED THAT Variance No. 1149 be tabled. More information is needed in regards
to the value of the property for single family residential use.
Tabled.
USE VARIANCE NO. 1155
Susan Goetz introduced the applicant as James V. Ellsworth of R. D. 4fl, Lake George,
New York. James V. Ellsworth's proposed use and location of the property was stated:
to construct a one-family dwelling on a lot that does not front on a public road on the
property situated on the south side of Dream Lake, off of north Sunnyside Road in a
Suburban Residential 30 Zone.
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Mike Hanley introduced himself and stated the he is the person intending to buy
the property. The property does not front on a town road, however, he has a deeded Right
of Way through the property belonging to several adjacent property owners.
Public Héaring Opened: Betty Zverblis, an adjacent property owner, asked from
whom did Mike Hanley get the Right of Way. Mr. Hanley outlined the properties over
which the Right of Way passed. Frank Zverblis questioned whether this Right of Way
existed. Mr. Hanley stated that he was sure that it did, but that before going through
the expense of deed searches, etc., he wanted to be sure that he could get the variance.
Public Hearing Closed.
Susan Goetz read the resolution by the WalTen County Planning Board for the proposal
which was approved without comment.
A motion was made by Daniel S. Griffin to approve the variance provided that a
documented Right of Way exists for said property. In addition,· similar variances have
been granted in this area.
Second by Charles O. Sicard, all voting affirmatively
RESOLVED THAT Variance No. 1155 be approved provided that a documented Right of
Way exists for the property. Similar variances have been granted in this area.
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Approved.
USE VARIANCE NO. 1156
Susan Goetz introduced the applicant as Queensbury Gardens of Rudley Place, Glens
Falls, New York and Abraham Rudnick being the owner. The proposed use and location
of the property was stated: to construct (2) two apartment buildings to an existing
apartment complex on the property situated at Angel Lane in a Single Family Residential
10 Zone and a Plaza Commercial 1 Zone.
Lynn Havens represented the applicant.".She det[¡iled the dates that the previous
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apartments were erected on the property/' ~ BetIB.! hat the area was prevIously zoned
for multifamily dwellings. Abraham Rudnick stated that he thought the previous zoning
should have been continued.
Daniel S. Griffin said that given the character of the neighborhood there was no
realistic way to build single family residences. He also noted that the existing apartments
were of high quality and that the property has split zoning.
Public Hearing Opened: no comment
Public Hearing Closed.
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A motion was made by Jeffrey L. Kelley to approve the variance based on the fact
that the development met zoning requirements when it was started and that rezoning
caused split zoning. Unnecessary hardship is imposed due to zoning.
Second by Charles O. Sicard, all voting affirmatively
RESOLVED THAT Variance No. 1156 be approved. When the development started
it met the zoning requirements at that time. Rezoning caused split zoning, thereby
unnecessary hardship is shown through no fault of the owner.
Approved.
AREA VARIANCE NO. 1157
Susan Goetz introduced the applicant as Harry K. Tripp of 27 Orchard Street, Glens
Falls, New York. Harry K. Tripp's proposed use and location was stated: to construct
a one-family dwelling with a (10) ten foot setback on each side in lieu of the required
(30) thirty foot combination for both sides on the property situated on the east side of
Eldridge Road, off of Aviation Road (north side) in a Suburban Residential 20 Zone.
Mr. Jeff Nelson appeared on behalf of the applicant. He described the proposed
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home as being a small modular home. He noted that the lot is a preexisting - nonconforming
lot which is undersized; thus the need for a variance on the side setbacks. Mr. Nelson
stated that the applicants were not able to purchase land from the adjoining landowners.
Gustave Behr asked whether a smaller house could be built to conform to setback
requirements. Mr. Nelson said that the proposed house was already quite small.
Public Hearing Opened: no comment
Public Hearing Closed.
Susan Goetz read into the record a letter from Randall and Shen-y Grippin who are
opposed to the variance. The Grippin's own a large house across the street from the lot
in question which they have been unable to sell for the past (2) two months. They are
concerned that if the variance is granted the value of their property will decline and be
more difficult to sell.
Jeff Nelson said that in his opinion, a new house would improve the appearance of
the neighborhood.
A motion was made by Michael Muller to approve the variance based on the fact
that practical difficulty is demonstrated. It is a preexisting undersized lot. The proposed
house is small. Minimum relief is granted to construct the house.
Second by Charles O. Sicard, 5 yes: Sicard, Griffin, Muller, Behr, Kelley
1 no: Goetz
RESOLVED THAT Variance No. 1157 be approved. Practical difficulty is demonstrated.
Minimum relief is granted to accomplish what they would like to do.
Approved.
A motion was made by Charles O. Sicard to adjourn the meeting.
Second by Michael Muller, all voting affirmatively
RESOLVED THAT the meeting adjourn.
MEETING ADJOURNED @ 10:30 P.M.
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