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QUEENSBURY ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
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Special Meeting Held: Wednesday, April 22, 1987 at 7:30 p.m.
Present:
Theodore Turner, Chairman
Charles O. Sicard
Gustave Behr, Acting Secretary
Jeffrey L. Kelley
Stuart F. Mesinger, Senior Town Planner
R. Case Prime, Counsel
Robert L. Eddy, Sign Enforcement Officer
Absent:
Daniel S. Griffin
Susan Goetz
Michael Muller
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m.
NEW BUSINESS
AREA VARIANCE NO. 1231
Helen Cutting
Mr. Behr read the application to construct an addition to a residence on the North
Sunnyside Road with less than required front and side setbacks.
Dick Cutting submitted photos of a collapsed structure which he planned to replace
with a 24 foot wide garage with a 16 foot lake setback and a 13 foot side setback in lieu
of 50 feet and 30 feet combined side setbacks respectively. The addition will be in a
straight line with the existing building. Practical difficulty is due to the size of the lot
and the location of the existing structure.
Mr. Behr asked about fire access problems.
Mr. Cutting said he didn't anticipate any.
Public Hearing Opened: no comment
Public Hearing Closed.
The Warren County Planning Board approved without comment.
Mr. Kelley MOVED APPROVAL of Area Variance No. 1231. Practical difficulty
is due to a preexisting substandard lot. The addition will improve the property and will
replace 2 residences with 1, creating less density. This is the minimum relief necessary
to alleviate practical difficulty and is consistent with the neighborhood.
Second by Mr. Turner.
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USE VARIANCE NO. 1232
William Joslyn
Mr. Behr read the application to operate a welding and fabrication facility on Corinth
Road in the SR-30 zone.
In response to questions from the Board, Mr; Joslyn said he had never tried to sell
the property. He believed its location with the County sand pile nearby rendered it
unsaleable. He proposed to use 6-7 acres of a 200 acre parcel. He would work on large
trucks at times. There was a residence nearby. He hadn't attempted to locate a site
in a commercial zone. He didn't believe it would adversely impact the neighborhood.
Board members explained that without dollars and cents proof of the unsaleability
of the land, a variance couldn't be granted.
Public Hearing Opened: no comment
Public Hearing Closed.
Mr. Behr read a letter from Barbara and Nancy Walker, Mr. Joslyn's immediate
neighbors, in favor of the variance.
Mr. Behr read a letter from Michael Brandt in favor of the variance.
The Warren County Planning Board approved without comment.
Mr. Behr MOVED that Use Variance No. 1232 be DENIED as it does not meet the
conditions for a use variance. The applicant hasn't shown hardship. The property was
never put up for sale and it is unknown whether it can realize a reasonable return if used
as zoned. The use would change the character of the neighborhood as it is a residential
property.
Mr. Kelley seconded.
Passed Unanimously.
Mr. Prime recommended that this area be investigated for possible rezoning.
USE VARIANCE NO. 1234
Don Gauger
Mr. Behr read the application to operate a marina office and boat brokerage business
at the north end of Bay Road.
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In response to questions from the Board, Mr. Gauger and owner Frank Perillo explained
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that 'Perillo would continue to operate a marina office out of a house across the road from
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rent one slip; therefore few boats would be on display. There was adequate parking. Mr.
Perillo had attempted to rent the house all last summer without success. The property
had always served, as a marina office with boats occasionally for sale; now two separate
businesses were proposed. Boat size would be limited by the Route 9L bridge; no boats
would be displayed out of the water.
Public Hearing Opened:
Elizabeth Donahue said she was opposed to the variance. There is an existing sewage
problem because of no toilet facilities. There is a potential for traffic congestion. There
is no limit on the number of boats for sale; this is a substantial change in the nature of
the business. The presentation is too vague.
Frank Perillo said there were portable toilets at the site. Traffic won't be a problem
because all docks are rented. This is the same as the previous use, except there are now
two separate individuals.
Mr. Mesinger noted portable toilets had been outlawed by the Town Board.
Public Hearing Closed.
The Warren County Planning Board approved without comment.
Mr. Prime said this was a preexisting use being expanded to rent to another business.
The applicant hasn't spelled out what the rental agreement allows him to do. Clarification
is needed on the nature of the business.
The Board tabled the application by consensus at the request of the applicant.
AREA VARIANCE NO. 1235
Keith Coe
Mr. Behr read the application to construct a house on a lot not fronting on a public
road and with less than required lakeshore frontage off of Birdsall Road.
Mr. Coe said this was property for which a variance had previously been denied as
the lot was undersized. Square footage had been added to bring the lot up to 30,000 square
feet, mainly by including a portion of a paper street. Mr. Coe did not believe the street
was a legal right of way, however people used it. He had no intention of building on or
blocking the road. There was also a legal right of way across the back of the lot which
would be maintained.
The Board was unsure whether lands reserved for a road, even if never offered or
accepted by the town, could be counted towards square footage.
Public Hearing Opened:
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Donn Freebern, representing Robert Cross, owner of the property pointed out the
various rights of ways. All travel rights would be maintained. The lot is bigger than others
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in the neighborhood and has the same amount of lake frontage.
Bob Cross said he owned the land. The 50 foot strip included in the lot is not a right
of way, nor was it ever offered to the town as a road.
Don Beadleston said he plowed the road. He didn't believe the lot had adequate
shoreline frontage. He was concerned over losing deeded access to his house.
Anthony Orsini asked if a common beach lot would be effected.
Mr. Coe said it would not.
Mr. Prime said more information would be needed on who owns what rights of way
and who has deeded access. He also wished to research the legality of using the paper
road towards meeting lot size requirements.
Carl Cooney said he feared that his access would be lost.
Mr. Sicard said as long as the right of way was in his deed, it could be used.
Mr. Cross said he had been discussing deeding the road to the town, but the road
specs were too expensive to meet.
Mr. Orsini and Mr. Beadleston both said they would have no objection if rights of
way were maintained and all requirements met.
Mr. Freebern submitted a copy of Coe's proposed deed.
Public Hearing Closed.
Mr. Sicard MOVED to TABLE the application to give counsel time to review the
deed, lot size and legalities of using the right of way to count towards lot size.
Mr. Turner seconded.
Passed Unanimously.
AREA VARIANCE NO. 1236
ABC Rentals
Mr. Behr read the application to construct an addition to a building with less than
required setbacks at the corner of Quaker and Ridge Roads.
Mr. Coe said the addition would be 16 ft. by 8 ft. Setbacks would be 32% ft. on
Quaker, 50 ft. on Ridge and 12' ft. in the rear, in lieu of the required 50 ft, 50 ft, and
20 ft.
Mr. Turner said the narrow shape of the lot created a difficulty in locating the
building.
Public Hearing Opened: no comment
Public Hearing Closed.
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The Warren County Planning Board approved without comment.
The Beautification Committee disapproved as no plans were submitted.
Mr. Turner MOVED APPROV AL. Practical difficulty is that this is a preexisting
nonconforming use. The lot is very narrow making some relief necessary for any addition.
The applicant must meet with the Beautification Committee prior to getting a building
permit.
Second by Mr. Behr.
Passed Unanimously.
USE VARIANCE NO. 1238
Ernest Arendt
Mr. Behr read the application to operate an ice cream stand and restaurant in an
HI-3A zone on River Street.
Mr. Mesinger said the use was very similar to the bar and grill previously there,
but perhaps different enough to require a variance.
Mr. Arendt said at one time the bar was loud and had a parking problem. The Arendts
use will be less intensive. There is parking in front and on sides. The building is too small
and poorly located for heavy industry.
The Beautification Committee approved.
Public Hearing Opened: no comment
Public Hearing Closed.
Mr. Behr MOVED APPROVAL due to the inability to use the property as zoned for
heavy industry. This is a lesser use and won't change the character of the neighborhood.
Second by Mr. Sicard.
Passed Unanimously.
USE VARIANCE NO. 1239
Masonic Hall Association
Mr. Behr read the application to construct a Masonic Hall in the UR-5 zone on Burke
Drive.
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Attorney Jim Davidson said hardship was due to a City water line easement splitting
the 4 acre parcel which precluded most building. At most, one or two duplexes could
be built. A right of way would be constructed connecting the adjacent Methodist and
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Catholic churches exiting onto Burke Drive.
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George Sewell explained an artists rendering. Parking for 24 cars is proposed, in
excess of code requirements. The hall may be rented to wedding parties. Restrictions
on alcohol would exist and a Mason would be present at all affairs.
Mr. Davidson said the Masons tried to locate property in the HC zone, but found
it too expensive. The Methodist Church wishes to control the land to their rear. The
land hasn't been actively marketed.
Mr. Kelley said putting only one or two duplexes on the 4 acre property would not
constitute reasonable return.
Public Hearing Opened:
Attorney Bruce Carr said he represented the Fort Amherst Realty Company which
owned property in the vicinity. They favored the proposal.
Joseph DeMario, speaking on behalf of the Catholic Church, said they were in favor.
The access onto Burke Drive would help relieve congestion.
Public Hearing Closed.
Mr. Behr read letters from Harry Kimmey and Ralph Marino of the Methodist Church
in favor of the proposals.
Mr. Behr read a letter from Jean Mulder opposed to the variance as alcohol would
be available at the hall.
The Beautification Committee approved.
Mr. Kelley MOVED APPROVAL. Unnecessary hardship is due to the City water
line crossing the property prohibiting a large portion from being used for its intended
use. One or two duplexes could be built, but a full reasonable return is not possible. From
testimony and letters presented to the Board, the use is compatible with other uses in
the area and those allowed under site plan review in this zone. The use is not detrimental
to the ordinance. The applicant has been unable to locate suitable property in the HC
zone.
Second by Mr. Sicard.
Passed Unanimously.
AREA VARIANCE NO. 1240
Michael Graves
Mr. Behr read the application to construct a garage with less than required side
setbacks on Wintergreen Road.
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Mr. Graves explained that due to the orientation of the house on the lot and the
location of his well, a variance was required to construct the garage.
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Public Hearing Opened: no comment
Public Hearing Closed.
Mr. Behr MOVED APPROVAL of Area Variance No. 1240 because of the unique
location of the house on the property and the well location.
Mr. Turner seconded.
Passed Unanimously.
USE VARIANCE NO. 1241
Wayne Pelak
Mr. Behr read the application to construct 12 additional units at the Imperial Motel
on Aviation Road in a split UR-I0/PC-1A zone.
Attorney Bob Stewart said the applicant previously received a variance for 5 additional
units. As he was now remodeling 12, he wished to go up 1 story and add 12 more. Hardship
is due to split zoning. Parking, density and permeability requirements can all be met.
Mr. Pelak may only construct 5 this year, in which case he may have to return for a variance
if the one year construction period expires. Mr. Stewart submitted a letter from the
Department of Health stating that the Department would allow connection to the existing
septic system until the sewer is laid; an additional drywell would also be permissible.
Parking spaces are separated from those available to the co-tenant, Mrs. Bissell.
Public Hearing Opened:
Gordon Harrington, 2 Carlton Drive, said his property was in back of the proposed
addition. Windows in the addition would look out over his yard, causing loss of privacy.
He wanted windows to be prohibited in the rear.
Wayne Pelak said the only windows were in the bathrooms. These could be made
to be frosted. There would also be exhaust fans.
Elaina Bissell said her deed allowed parking on the whole lot. She was concerned
the addition would cause her to lose parking. She presently had 12 spaces dedicated to
her use, but was allowed access to the whole property. Her business totalled 2,000 feet
of floor space. Her business tailed off at about 5:30 p.m. but she was concerned about
overlapping needs. Mr. Pelak has rented one room to a business which uses 5 spaces.
There are also efficiencies which may have more than one car. Although problems do
not presently exist, they could with the expansion.
Mr. Pelak said he rented one room for 3 months to a business which had 3-5 people.
They left by 3:30 p.m. Ninety-five to ninety-eight percent of his customers arrived after
5 p.m. He had 4 efficiencies. Parking was not presently a problem, but he could add more
spaces.
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Mr. Behr said there was room for additional parking if the Board granted a variance
to park in the 50 foot residential buffer. The efficiencies could have more than 1 car.
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Mr. Behr questioned where snow would be moved to if additional parking spaces were
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Mr. Pelak said winter occupancy was 60%. He had room to deposit snow and would
cart it away if required.
Debbie Collin, 10 Carlton Drive, said she was against windows in the rear of the
motel. She was concerned about added congestion onto Aviation Road.
Public Hearing Closed.
The Warren County Planning Board approved without comment.
Mr. Pelak said on June 1, his lease with Mrs. Bissell would have 4 years left.
Mr. Kelley reviewed parking requirements which were 38 for the motel with addition
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and 20 for Mrs. Bissell. Fifty were shown. Eight spaces would have to be provided in
the buffer area, if needed. They might not be needed because peak business hours didn't
overlap.
Mr. Turner MOVED APPROVAL of Use Variance No. 1241. Hardship is due to a
split zone which restricts the owner from making a reasonable return on the property.
The character of the neighborhood would remain the same. The west side of the addition
will be void of windows. Mr. Pelak will provide necessary parking as requested by his
tenant, Mrs. Bissell who shares the building in front of the property.
Mr. Behr seconded.
Passed Unanimously.
USE VARIANCE NO. 1246
Penny Burch
Mr. Behr read the application to construct a single family house on Stevens Road
in a HC zone.
Mrs. Burch said the lot was too narrow to support a commercial use and the
neighborhood was strictly residential.
Public Hearing Opened: no comment
Public Hearing Closed.
The Warren County Planning Board approved without comment.
Mr. Kelley MOVED APPROV AL. Practical difficulty is due to a narrow lot in a
residential zone. The property can't be used as zoned due to the size of the lot and
character of the neighborhood. This would be in keeping with neighborhood character
and would not have a detrimental effect on the ordinance.
Second by Mr. Behr.
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AREA VARIANCE NO. 1247
Noble True Value Hardware
Mr. Behr read the application to construct a storage building at the Noble True Value
store on Route 9.
Mr. Mesinger said a setback variance was required from residential buffer
requirements. Site plan review was also needed.
Ken Noble said 2 storage containers were placed last year. A third had been moved
in. The store planned to construct a permanent storage building shortly.
The Board said the submitted site plan was inadequate and suggested the applicants
return with complete plans for the proposed buildings.
Mr. Behr MOVED the application to be TABLED until May for better information.
Mr. Turner seconded.
Passed Unanimously.
SIGN VARIANCE NO. 1223
Queensbury Motors
Mr. Behr read the application to keep an oversized freestanding sign on Quaker Road.
Attorney Dick McLenithan and owner Sherman Parrot said all signs would come into
compliance except one. A variance was requested to place a 76 square foot sign at an
existing sign location with a 4 foot setback.
After lengthy discussion with the Board, who indicated such a variance would not
be granted, Mr. Parrott withdrew the application and said all signs would be made to
conform.
The meeting was adjourned at 11:55 p.m.
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Theodore Turner, Chairman
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Minutes prepared by Stuart F. Mesinger, Senior Town Planner
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