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QUEENSBURY ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
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Regular Meeting Held: Wednesday, October 28, 1987 at 7:30 p.m.
Present: Theodore Turner, Chairman
Jeffrey L. Kelley
Charles O. Sicard
Susan Goetz, Secretary
Daniel S. Griffin
Gustave Behr
Susan E. Davidsen, Planning and Zoning Department
Absent:
R. Case Prime, Counsel
Michael Muller
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Turner at 7:30 p.m.
OLD BUSINESS
SIGN VARIANCE NO. 1286
Freihofer's
Mrs. Goetz read the application to maintain existing freestanding sign on the property
situated at 40 Cronin Road in a Suburban Residential 30 zone.
Mark Pulvarovi represented Freihofer's. Mr. Turner asked how long the sign has
been there. Mr. Pulvarovi replied, 13 months. Mr. Turner asked if he had a permit for
it. Mrs. Goetz asked if he had put the sign up without a permit. Mr. Pulvarovi said he
put it up without a permit; he didn't realize he needed one. Mr. Turner asked when he
was cited for the violation. Mr. Pulvarovi didn't know. Mr. Behr stated that the sign
should be 15 ft. (minimum) back from the property line; the sign is on the property line
now.
Mr. Turner asked if his sign was on the public right of way. Mr. Pulvarovi said he
didn't know. He said that the sign sets back 25 ft. from the middle of the road. Mr. Turner
stated that you don't measure from the middle of the road. Mr. Pulvarovi said he would
comply to the Sign Ordinance regulations; 25 ft. high and 15 ft. back from the property
line.
Mr. Pulvarovi agreed to withdraw his application and comply with the Ordinance.
Mr. Turner stated that Area Variance No. 1288, Elaina's Beauty Boutique had been
tabled at the request of the applicant.
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NEW BUSINESS
AREA VARIANCE NO. 1298
Derek C. Pederson
Mrs. Goetz read the application to maintain existing nonconforming setback of the
garage with a distance of 8 ft. from the front property line on the property situated at
the intersection of Chestnut Ridge and County Line Roads in a Suburban Residential 30
zone.
Mr. Pederson represented himself. Mr. Turner asked how this situation happened.
Mr. Pederson said it was an accident. It is a pie shaped lot. Mr. Behr asked if the garage
was staked out. Mr. Pederson said yes, but it was a mistake. Mrs. Goetz asked if he was
the builder or owner. Mr. Pederson said he was the owner. Mr. Behr stated that there
are too many errors being made by contractors; fines should be imposed upon contractors.
The contractor (name unknown), said it was misread because of the brush there;
it was an oversight. He said they had many factors to consider; the grade, water table,
two front setbacks, and trying to keep away from the well, and stay away from the septic
system.
Mr. Turner asked where the septic system was located. Mr. Pederson said it was
located out in front of the house, going towards the corner.
Mrs. Goetz said that the well and house could have been moved back. The contractor
explained that it would be difficult to do that because of the the elevations. Mrs. Goetz
commented that sometime one has to decide that, that big of a house shouldn't be built
on that size of a lot. Mr. Turner said that it's too late now. Mr. Pederson said that the
Bank is holding back on his loan until this variance is approved.
Public Hearing Opened:
Jane Carusone, neighbor, spoke in favor of the application. She said this is undue
hardship. However, she did state for the record that the house could have been placed
in a different spot on the lot. She felt there should be more diligence on the part of the
Building Inspectors. Mrs. Goetz agreed that this is a big problem. Mr. Turner said that
this is a common occurrence. Mr. Sicard pointed out that the Zoning Board of Appeals
did in fact make someone move a house because of an error.
Mr. Behr said that there isn't a survey done early enough for Building Inspectors;
they rely on contractors placement of the stakes. Mr. Behr said it's not the Building
Inspectors responsibility. It is the contractors responsibility.
Public Hearing Closed.
Mr. Kelley MOVED APPROVAL of Area Variance No. 1298, Derek C. Pederson.
Practical difficulty is the way the property was staked off. The corner of the garage
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was placed improperly because of water and brush on that part of the property. The
'- telephone pole was used as a marker instead of the stake.
Second by Mr. Sicard.
Passed Unanimously.
AREA VARIANCE NO. 1300
Marvin S. Dobert
Mrs. Goetz read the application for reconstruction of a preexisting nonconforming
building. An addition of approximately 300 sq. ft. will be constructed to the front of the
building. The reconstruction and addition will be used to provide offices and base of
operations for Allteck; a refrigeration, air-conditioning, heating, and mechanical firm.
The property is located on the southeast corner of Main and Richardson Streets in a Highway
Commercial 15 zone.
Marvin Dobert represented himself. Mr. Turner said he had a problem with this
application. It is not a permitted use in a Highway Commercial zone. This in fact is both
a use and area variance application.
Mr. Kelley asked what the distance is from the property line to the corner. Mr.
Dobert replied, it's very close. Mr. Behr said it's a nonconforming structure. Mr. Griffin
said the Board shouldn't discuss this variance tonight if the applicant needs a use variance
application. Mr. Dobert said he was surprised to know that it was a nonconforming use.
Mrs. Goetz asked him if he had any trucks. Mr. Doberts said no, not at the present
time. The service will run out of the Mechanicville office. The garage would be "handy"
up here in case it is needed.
Mr. Behr stated that Mr. Dobert is asking for a setback of 45 ft. That is not asking
for minimum relief. Mr. Turner stated that he is infringing upon the HC zone. It has
to be re-advertised as a use variance and area variance combination.
The applicant agreed to TABLE until the situation gets straightened out.
Mr. Griffin asked if there was any way that the applicant could use the existing
structure and update it. Mr. Doberts said yes. Mr. Turner asked if he was taking this
building with an option to buy. Mr. Dobert said yes. Mr. Turner asked if Mrs. Richardson
had advertised the building for Highway Commercial use. Mr. Dobert said he didn't know.
Mr. Turner said that the applicant needs to prove "reasonable return"; meet variance
criteria.
USE VARIANCE NO. 1301
Larry King
Mrs. Goetz read the application to use the existing warehouse for wholesale, retail
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shop for arts, crafts and antiques on the property situated on Minnesota Avenue in a Light
Industry 1A zone.
Larry King represented himself. Mrs. Joanne King wanted to know if they could
go back to using the property as originally zoned (LI) after this particular proposed use.
Mr. Turner said that the variance goes with the land but they could stipulate a condition
in the motion if approved.
Mr. Behr asked how many cars are expected to be there. Mr. Griffin said he thought
there might be about 11 to 15 cars parked in front.
Mr. Turner asked how extensive the use would be. He asked Mr. King if he would
be using the whole building. Mr. King said they would be using all of it. Mr. Griffin clarified
the fact that the applicant is only asking for a temporary use variance.
There was discussion on the architecture of the building.
Mrs. Goetz asked Mrs. King if she would be giving arts and crafts classes. Mrs.
King said no.
Mr. Turner said that the Kings had purchased the building May 4, 1987 and that it's
really not a long enough time to claim hardship.
Public Hearing Opened: no comment
Public Hearing Closed.
The Beautification Committee approved with comments: "Mrs. King presented
pictures of the property as it appears at this time. It is well planted and attractive and
it will remain that way, Mrs. King assured the Committee."
Mr. King said they had put it up for lease immediately because they knew the building
wouldn't be used for 3 years.
Mr. Griffin MOVED APPROVAL WITH STIPULATIONS of Use Variance No. 1301,
Larry N. King. The application meets the three necessary criteria. Reasonable return
as zoned isn't possible. It is unique. The Zoning Board has considered other variances
for this property and granting this variance will not affect neighborhood character. The
use variance terminates with the applicants use of this business as described; it will revert
back to Light Industry.
Second by Mr. Behr.
Passed Un;¡nimously.
AREA VARIANCE NO. 1302
John and Susan Moosbrugger
Mrs. Goetz read the application to construct a single family residence on a lot that
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does not front on a public road on the property situated off Birdsall Road in a Single Family
v Residential 30 zone.
Mr. Turner asked him if this was the same situation as Keith Coe had. Mr.
Moosbrugger said yes.
Mr. Behr asked if there are two right of ways going into the property. Mr.
Moosbrugger said yes.
Public Hearing Opened:
Carl Toomey, neighbor, was interested in where the septic system would be located.
Mr. Turner assured her that there wouldn't be a problem with the location of the septic
system.
Public Hearing Closed.
Mr. Griffin MOVED APPROVAL of Area Variance No. 1302, John and Susan
Moosbrugger. Practical difficulty has been demonstrated. The property does not front
on a public road. The Zoning Board of Appeals has approved similar variances in the past.
Second by Mr. Turner.
Passed Unanimously.
AREA VARIANCE NO. 1303
Anne R. and Virginia A. Clark
Mrs. Goetz read the application to expand the garage to a two car garage. The
addition would decrease the setback to 5 ft. from the property line from the current
conforming 15 ft. on the property situated at 173 Aviation Road, corner of Owen Avenue
in a Single Family Residential 20 zone.
Anne and Virginia Clark represented themselves. There didn't seem to be any problem
with the application. There was little discussion.
Public Hearing Opened: no comment
Public Hearing Closed.
Mr. Kelley MOVED APPROVAL of Area Variance No. 1303, Anne R. and Virginia
A. Clark. Practical difficulty has been demonstrated. This is an ample lot but the
positioning of the house and garage (originally there) make it impossible to put an addition
any other place. This is the smallest addition possible that will still be able to hold a
car.
Second by Mr. Turner
Passed Unanimously.
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SIGN VARIANCE NO. 1304
Howard Johnson Motor Lodge-Restaurant
Mrs. Goetz read the application to remove existing oversized freestanding sign and
replace with a nonconforming sign that will be 10 ft. wide, 11 ft. long, and 32 ft. high.
The proposed sign is to be 100 sq. ft. The location is Aviation Road in a Plaza Commercial
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Mr. Turner said he would abstain due to conflict of interest. Mr. Behr acted as
Chairman.
Attorney Malcolm O'Hara represented the applicant.
Mr. Behr stated that these issues were discussed regarding signs. He believed that
all the applicant was doing was coming back with same sign proposal but with slightly
different dimensions. Mr. Kelley believe that this was a different application than the
original one.
Mr. O'Hara said that if this application is approved he would withdraw their application
that's in litigation
Mr. Behr stated he had talked to Case Prime, Counsel. Mr. Behr said that on the
advice of counsel, this variance did not have to be heard.
Mr. Griffin MOVED TO NOT HEAR Sign Variance No. 1304, Howard Johnson Motor
Lodge-Restaurant on the advice of Case Prime, Counsel because the points in the
application had previously been addressed.
Second by Mr. Behr.
Passed Unanimously.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:45 p.m.
f!lcul« ~i
Theodore Turner, Chairman
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