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(JJElHBJRY zamt:; :¡ngo OF APPEALS
Regular Meeting Held: Wednesday March 16, 1988 at 7:30 p.m.
Present: Theodore Tumer, Chaimlan
Charles O. Sicard
Jeffrey Kelley
SUsan Goetz, Secretary
Daniel S. Griffin
R. Case P.r;ime, Counsel
Lee York, senior Planner
Mack Dean, Bni 1 ding and Zoning Codes Administrator
Mary Jane F. M:>eller, Stenographer
Absent: Gustave Behr
The minutes were C'...,ll~ to order at 7:30 p.m. by Mr. Turner.
Corrections to the FebruaJ:y 17, 1988 minutes are as follows:
Page 4, 3m Paragraph fran bottan: .. .fact that it \<IiOOld not be
used.. ¡ should be .. . fact that it could not be used.
The voting status was inadvertently anitted fran each application.
They are as follows:
Area Variance No. 1292 ¡
Area Variance No. l326¡
Use Variance No. l327¡
Area Variance No. 1328 ¡
Use Variance No. 1329 ¡
Use Variance No. 1330/
Area Variance No. 1331
Tabled by Chaimlan
Approved
Tabled by Applicant
Approved
Disapproved
Approved
Passed UnarûJoously
Passed UnarûJoously
Passed Unan:iIoously
Passed UnarûJoously
Mr. Sicard ßDVed APPIUVAL of FebruaJ:y 17, 1988 minutes.
Seconded by Mrs. Goetz.
ow BUSINBSS
Mr. Turner announced that Use Variance No. 1327, Glenn Gregory, was
Tabled as requested by Mr. Gre~ via his legal attorney, Malcan B.
O'Hara, of Bartlett, Pontiff, eta ale
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AREA VARIAta 1Ð. 1230
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Ferraro Entertai:rment, Inc.
d/b/a Skateland of Glens Falls
Mrs. Goetz read the request for an extension of Area Variance Approval
on March 18, 1987 to construct a water slide and childrens' go-kart track
on the property s~tuated on the west side of Route 9, approx;imately 1.4
miles south of I-87, Exit 20, He 15. Note: Cross Ref: Site Plan Review
No. 6-87, approved March 17, 1987 by the Planning Boëm:i. Also, requesting
the extension of Site Plan approval.
Mr. Willian Nealon and Mr. AntOOny Ferraro, President, represented the
project. Mrs. Goetz read the March 2, 1988 letter fzan Mr. Ferraro form-
ally requesting of the Town of Queensbury Planning and Zoning Boards an
extension of the approvals granted in 1987 (Exhibit A). Mr. Pr:iJœ stated
that the Planning Board re-approved the Site Plan on March 15, 1988. Mr.
Nealon said that the letter accurately states the construction status, and
that the slide has been ordered and is due on-site about April 1. They
are waiting for final construction drawings sbJwing elevations of various
supports and locations of curbs on the site. There are no changes to the
location of the slide which is in the westem extrEmity of the existing
site. setbacks remain the sane and location of the plunge pool, etc.
remain the SéI'Oe. Their need is to enable to obtain a D1; 1 ding pemrl.t,
once the materials and final drawings arrive. It is for that reason there
is a request to extend the pemdssion to ccmœnce construction for a
œasonable period of t:iJœ. Mr. Ferraro told Mr. Sicard that they would
need sixty days.
Mr. Griffin rooved APPR:WAL TO mcr'END Area Variance No. 1230, Ferraro
Entertai:rment, Inc. , for a period of one year based on the original
application, and there will be no alterations to the original request.
Seconded by Mr. Sicard.
Passed UDaniJlDusly
USE VARIAta 1Ð. 1325
Mobil Oil Corporation
Mrs. Goetz read the proposal is for a car wash, in addition to the
existing Gas Station/Mini Mart Service Station, comer of Route 9 and
Route 254, PC-lA. The service would. be JJmited to a car wash and would be
autanated.
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Mr. John C. Carusone represented the project and stated that the car
wash being proposed is a turnover or bay operation car wash. He explained
the types of car washes available: 1) tunnel (large operation where car is
caught in a tunnel on chain and pulled through); 2) self-service (put coin
in and driver washes the car); and 3) bay operation (insert coin in box,
bay door opens, drive car inside and door closes, operation from overhead
gives the car a general washing - no waxing, underwashing, etc., light
would go on, door open and driver exits). This is a relatively small
operation. Hr. Carusone stated that he does not think the zoning in
Queensbury provides for a car wash. There are approximately four or five
of these in the Albany area, for which a car wash costs $1.99.
In a study done in the Albany area, approximately 5% of the people
that use the car wash did so solely to have the car washed; while 95% of
the people who used the car wash also bought gas or other items stocked in
the Mini Mart. It is felt that the car wash is incidental to the gas and
the Mini Hart. because of today's self service marketing. The prior gas
station on this site did have a bay for car washing.
Mr. Ken Dykstra, President of K.D.C. Corp., represents Rieko Manufac-
turing which makes the equipment. In addition to the above procedure, Mr.
Dykstra said that the building is free-standing, 36 feet long; the cus-
tomer stays in the car in the bay while the equipment goes back and
forth. It takes approximately 1 1/2 passes to wash and another 1 1/2
passes to rinse and dry the car. The whole process is approximately 2 1/2
minutes in length, depending on the car size. Time in and out of the bay
is approximately 3 minutes, or 20 cars/hour. This bay procedure is geared
to work off the nucleus that is already on the site (gas and mini-mart
customers). The 95% group usually will go to the gas pump, makes purchase
in the store, pay for the wash at that point and exit from the site. Part
of the staging (or stacking) area would be at the pump islands, because it
takes approximately 6 to 7 minutes at the gas pump.
In answer to Mr. Turner, the water would be 100% recycled. Mrs. Goetz
asked about the signs. Ms. Arlene Barrios, project engineer, stated that
contractors were instructed to take signs down that were not in compli-
ance: two Peguses disks from the building and one legend at the canopy.
Mobile was allowed, having corner property, two wall signs and one free
standing. A variance was granted for each Mobile I.D. signs. Mrs. Goetz
referred to the Beautification Committee communication which stated that
two signs that were to be removed are still in place; the one on the
canopy facing Route 9 and a sign near the building. Ms. Barrios said the
one on the canopy is allowed, as it is considered a wall sign, and one
facing Burger King was removed. The second sign mentioned is the free
standing sign that is allowed. Mr. Carusone stated that Mobil felt they
were in compliance, until they met with the Warren County Planning Board
and were advised of Mr. Eddy's Beautification Committee letter, advising
sign non-compliance. Mobil has tried to show good faith and wants to
comply.
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Mrs. Goetz asked about the car wash procedure, specifically in regards
to a malfunction. Mr. Dykstra said it is monitored from inside the store
via video camera, and that the entire system would shut down and the doors
would open. Approximately 1000 of these systems are installed/year.
Ms. Barrios answered Mr. Turner's question regarding size, that the
bay is about 35 feet long and 14 feet outside (11 feet inside), and is a
brush operation, two driers on top, travels on a gantry.
Mr. Dennis O'Malley, Griner Engineering Inc. in Albany, explained the
research of existing facilities in the Albany area: Central Ave. and Route
155; Wolf Road and Sand Creek Rd.; and Albany Shaker Road and Osborne
Road. They physically watched these stations during the peak hours. They
found that the people who used the car wash are essentially the people who
were going there for the primary purpose of getting gas and/or a Mini Mart
purchase. Secondary was the car wash. For every 100 people using the
store, 15 may use the car wash. Only one or two used the car wash and
made no other purchase. Mr. O'Malley felt that the traffic at Wolf Road
and Sand Creek Road had traffic at least equal to Aviation Road and prob-
ably higher. Central Avenue has traffic of about 45,000 cars/day. There
were rarely more than two people at a bay; one in the wash and one waiting
to get in.
Mr. Kelley questioned making a left turn on Aviation Road. Mr.
O'Malley felt that was a valid concern; however, if a driver had ~hat
concern, they would most likely opt not to make the turn.
Mr. Griffin asked about the 100% recycling. The answer was that there
are no plans to tie into a sewer. There is 0 discharge. Mr. Dykstra
explained that the car can be washed with approximately 20 gallons of
water. Of that 16 gallons of water was already in the reclaim system (two
1500 gallon tanks) and is recycled; 4 gallons of clean water is used to
rinse the car. The salt is never removed out of the water. Basically, a
car is being washed with dirty water and rinsed with clean water. Mr.
Griffin is concerned about the neighboring septic tanks and their malfunc-
tions.
Mr. Turner requested to know the demonstration of hardship. Mr.
Carusone explained it was twofold: 1) the prior service station had a car
wash; 2) and the anomolie in the law that there is no zoning law in
Queensbury. Hr. Turner felt it is more of a convenience than a hardship.
Mack Dean, Building and Codes Department. said it would seem that
perhaps the Board should question as to whether or not the applicant
should be applying for a variance. There is provision in Plaza Commercial
lA, under the Zoning Schedule under Site Plan Review Type 2, #2, which
addresses the fact that any facility which is an accessory use requires
Site Plan review in a Plaza Commercial Zone. He questioned whether or not
the Site Plan review would be required if this is considered to be acces-
sory or incidental pertinent to an existing facility or whether it
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could be cónsidered as self-sustaining type of use, where it could stand
on its own as a business. However, Hr. Prime feels Mobil is here because
it is an increase in use on a sub-standard lot and that basically requires
a variance. He agrees with Mr. Dean in that if the Board finds that there
is grounds for a Variance, then it probably should go to the Planning
Board for Site Plan Review to address the issue of the use of the pro-
perty.
In answer to Mr. Kelley, Ms. Berrios said the size of the lot is
19,772 square feet, or about one-half acre. Previously, the service
station was full service and had three bays.
Mr. Dean offered the services of the Building Department regarding the
sign problem.
Public Bearing Opened: no comment.
Public Bearinl Closed
Mrs. Goetz stated
"Traffic congestion on
over-development on a
Carusone questioned the
was not a majority.
has to be considered a
that the Warren County Planning Board disapproved.
the property as well as that of the intersection,
parcel with another principle use added." Mr.
4:2 vote and that it was not a disapproval. There
However, Mr. Prime felt that for these purposes it
negative vote.
The Beautification Committee letter was read (Exhibit B).
A discussion took place among the Board about the traffic and the
concern for safety and hazards. Mr. Sicard mentioned that there is a
possibility of another traffic lane is going to be put in to alleviate
traffic at the corner. However, it was felt that this is heresay and
cannot be taken into consideration for the subject application.
Mr. Dykstra requested that the Board keep in mind concerning like
facilities that they are a product of something that is there and is built
by and for people who live here. It is not new traffic, it is traffic
that is in the system. It should not be thought of from a virgin point of
view and that it will generate a certain percentage of cars that would not
be there, but studies have indicated that that would be a small percent-
age. Mr. Prime asked if the same would be said of a resort community.
Answer: The people coming in during the summer months have an impact on
all facilities in the area. They will be here and will be new traffic in
the area, but they will also be a component that the volumes on Aviation
and Route 9 will also go up proportionally, may be 20% higher.
Mr. Kelley moved DISAPPROVAL of Use Variance No. 1325, Mobil Oil
Corporation, that the traffic is the main concern. The use variance test
has not been met due to the fact that no hardship has been shown. It was
testified that business was showing profit, and could function without the
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addition of a car wash. This particular lot is less than one-half of the
required zoning.
Seconded by Mr. Griffin.
Passed IJnaai.ously
USE VAlIAlCE NO. 1288
Elaina's Beauty Boutique
Mrs. Goetz read the proposal to renovate a single family dwelling and
garage, 51 Aviation Road, UR-5 zone. The garage will be two floors;
upstairs office, beauty boutique downstairs.
Ms. Bissell informed to Mr. Turner that she did not want to address
the application at this meeting, but instead to offer information. She
told Mr. Prime that she would like to keep the application before the
Board, and referred to a letter sent in January from Susan Decker, legal
assistant to R. McMillen (Exhibit B). Last week legal proceedings were
started notifying the neighbors in the subdivision in which the house is
located as to what is being done. Everyone who has signed a petition was
served with papers, advising them that a legal action has been started in
front of a judge to attempt to overturn that part of the deed restriction.
Mr. Prime asked Ms. Bissell about the timing of the application. An-
swer: Hs. Decker hoped a couple of months.
Mr. Malcolm O'Hara, Bartlett Pontiff, said he understands the situa-
tion that there may be a great amount of default among the defendents who
were served and have no interest, but have not permanently signed off. In
the event that there is some neighborhood association that bands together,
there might be some litigation. He asked the Board to bear with the appli-
cant.
Mr. Muller moved to TABLE Use Variance No. 1288, Elaina's Beauty
Boutique, until the June 1988 Zoning Board of Appeals meeting, with the
understanding that the applicant will be present at that time and be ready
to report on or proceed with the application.
Seconded by Hr. Turner.
Passed Uaaa1.ously
Hr. Hack Dean requested that Hs. Bissell check with the Building
Department in May, to insure insertion on the June agenda.
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NOTICE or APPEAL NO. 1-1988
John W. Caffrey
Mr. Turner stated that this is an appeal of Building Permit No. 87-827
of Atlantic Refining and Marketing Corporation by Meadow Run Development
Corporation and Highway Hosts, Inc. The appeal of a canopy that had been
erected over its gasoline pumps at 52 Aviation Road, which was less than
80 feet from the Aviation Road right of way. Restrictions, covenants and
conditions contained in a 1965 agreement and a 1978 stipulation have been
violated.
Mr. Malcolm O'Hara represented the project. Mr. Turner mentioned to
him that Atlantic Refining and Marketing Corporation has not been notified
by the Building Department of this action. Mr. Prime advised the Board
that the application should be Tabled so that all parties can be put on
notice and a date set for the appeal to be heard, and all parties could be
represented. Then there can be a formal hearing.
Mr. Turner moved to TABLE Appeal No. 1-1988, John W. Caffrey, until
all parties have been put on notice and a date set for the appeal.
Seconded by Mr. Griffin.
Passed Vaaaiaously
AIEA VAllIANCE NO. 1332
Chris St. Andrew
Mr. Turner said this is for an addition of 18 feet x 68 feet onto an
existing home located on Fuller Road, LC-I0A.
Mr. Chris St. Andrew represented the project, who verified to the
Board that it is 65 feet from the property line to the front of the build-
ing, and 33 feet at the side. The land is zoned ten acres because it sits
on the base of a mountain. There has to be relief on the side setback and
the dimensions of the garage. The septic system is adjacent to the pool.
In answer to Mr. Kelley, Mr. St. Andrew said he bought the house and
that someone else positioned the house in the present location.
Public Hearin¡ Openedz no co..ent.
Public Bear!.. closed.
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There was no correspondence.
Mr. Griffin moved APPROVAL of Area Variance No. 1332, Chris St.
Andrew, because the application has demonstrated practical difficulty in
that the size of the lot and positioning of the house necessitates this
request. There will be a 33 foot side setback variance on the east.
Seconded by Mrs. Goetz.
Passed unanimously.
IJSE VAiIARCE NO. 1333
Hadaline Drellos
Mrs. Goetz read that the applicant wishes to change the nonconforming
use to a one-man engine repair shop located on the north side of Luzerne
Road, SR-20. The applicant seeks to lessen the non-conforming, pre-
existing use from the current commercial use. The new use would be a
one-man shop not unlike home occupation. The applicant wishes to enhance
the neighborhood by removing the more offensive commercial use.
Mr. Malcolm O'Hara, Esq. represented the project, who stated that
basically it is a pre-existing, non-conforming use in a residential zone.
They want to keep with the goals of the ordinance and cut back the non-
conforming use down to something that is less offensive and out of step
with the Zoning Ordinance use schedule for that particular neighborhood.
The former business had commercial vehicles coming in and out, which was
very obvious to the neighborhood. The new activity would be much less
obvious. The activity is well-screened and well-set back from the road.
Mr. O'Hara responded to Mr. Turner that the non-conforming, pre-exist-
ing use had been gone since March 11. The owner is seeking to limit the
variance to a one-man repair shop. The shop will repair small engines,
cars, lawn movers, snow blowers, etc. Hrs. Drellos confirmed that there
would be no large engines, shafts, lathes, drill presses, etc. The area
for repair will be behind the fence and will not be visible to the
neighborhood, it will be less intrusive that what is there now, and there
will be no more heavy equipment traffic. In addition, there will be no
signs.
Mr. Muller asked about more than one car being there at a time.
Answer: There will be one man, and the man who is going to do the work is
the one who lives on the premises. Mr. Muller further asked clarification
of the situation as being the person who will occupay the trailer as a
tenant, is also the tenant in the back operating a motor repair shop.
Mrs. Drellos answered: She lives on the premises with her fiancee, who
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will operate the business out back. The garage itself sets back approxi-
mately 350 feet fran the road, about 150 feet fran the feet fran the
fence. Mr. O'Hara felt this situation gives the Board an opportunity to
l:imit non-confo:r:mance, and it would bring it IOOre into oarpliance with the
neighborOOod.
Mrs. Drellos remarked that, because she goes to Florida in the winter,
this would not be a year-round business, in operation maybe fran March to
December .
Public Hearing opened: DO u;.anaant
Public Hearing Closed
No correspondence.
Mr. Sicard rooved APPRJVAL of Use Variance No. 1333, Madaline Drellos,
and that it be l:imited to one man engine repair shop. It will be limited
to a one-year exper:iment and will be reviewed at the em of one year. The
haJ:àship is that it is a pre-existing, non-confo:cning use. The variance
will expire with any change of ownership of the property.
Seconded by Mrs. Goetz.
Passed tJnaDimwJly
USE VARIAII:E m. 1334
John !b:mey
d/b/a SUper saver Rent-A-car
Mrs. Goetz J:ead the proposal to autaoobile leasing and rental, 269 Bay
Road, Ll-lA. There will be no structural changes to the building (foDDer
Take-out Deli SbJppe for Shananagan' s Deli SbJppe). This will not be used
for autaoobile sales. This rental ocmpany deals with Insurance :replace-
ment vehicles, Body S1x>ps and Dealerships.
There was no :representative for the application.
Mr. Turner rooved to TABLE Use Variance No. 1334, John M:>oney, for one
meeting due to the non-appeai:ance of the applicant.
Seconded by Mr. Muller
Passed tJnaDimwJly
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USE VAllIARCE NO. 1335
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Dr. and Mrs. Douglas Petroski
Mrs. Goetz read the application for an expansion of a Use (Ref: Use
Variance No. 1043 granted approval on November 21, 1985), located at the
corner of Everts and Homer Avenues, LI-IA. The proposal is for pre-school
gymnastics and Day Care.
Mr. Robert LaPann represented the project, along with Mrs. Petroski.
The Petroski's own the property, it is on the south corner. The site
consists of 1.3 acres, with a modern building on the easterly part of the
property. The vacant land for the proposed second building is on the
western part of the property. The property is now zoned light industrial
one acre, and adjoins the highway commercial property that is to the
north. The variance request is made so that the building can be built and
the new building can be used for expansion of gymnastics activity and also
for a day care center. The present use of the property is extremely valu-
able to the people in the area. It is used for gymnastics, heavily
attended, well kept, does have vacant land adjoining to the west. The
vacant land is not attractive for most of the uses in the light industrial
zone. There is no area for expansion. It is a hardship to the Petroski's
because, even if a use were available as light industrial, the use would
reduce the value of their present building where they run the gymnastics
academy.
The building would be constructed according to the drawings presented
to the Board. It matches generally in appearance to the existing build-
ing. The building that is shown in the middle is not proposed at this
time, but would be Phase III and would house administrative offices,
locker rooms, etc. The grounds would be well landscaped. Mrs. Petroski
is preparing the landscaping plans for the next meeting of the Beautifi-
cation Committee. If the variance is approved at this meeting, she would
be willing to abide by any modifications set by the Beautification Commit-
tee.
The facility would accommodate from 40 to 50 people in the Day Care
center, would be a day time use, from 7:30 a.m. until 6:00 p.m. for child-
ren to come and be cared for. Day Care centers today are in great demand
and severely understaffed. The use should not be objectionable to neigh-
bors, there is no heavy truck traffic, nothing hazardous, no late evening
activities, not noisy. Whatever goes in has to be approved by the Depart-
ment of Social Services.
The neighborhood is in transition, as there are several single family
homes in the area. Additionally there is a chiropractic clinic, WBZA
radio station, Silverstein, Loftus and Ross accounting firm, Queensbury
Motors. Mrs. Petroski and Mr. LaPann have spoken to the neighbors and
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everyone has approved. The contract meets a need and relieves the burden
of a vacant lot.
Mrs. Goetz asked about day care in the facility at present. Answer:
There is day camp, which is not required to be licensed by New York State,
contrary to a day care facility. Mrs. Petroski feels the two are very
similar in regards to activities. There are pre-school children there
now. The facility is open 7:30 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. and the day camp is run
from 9:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m.; however, the children can come anywhere be-
tween 7:30 a.m. and 9:00 a.m. The gymnastics classes are between 2:30
p.m. and 9:00 p.m.
Mrs. Petroski answered to Mr. Turner that day care employees are
licensed with the state.
Mr. Kelley asked about the number of employees, because he is con-
cerned about the parking aspect. Answer: 3 full time, 5 part time. In
Phase II, it will depend upon how many children are enrolled. New York
State requires 7 children to one teacher. The maximum capacity is 50
children, which would mean 7 employees. Not all teachers will be there at
the same time, because of working different hours; maybe 10 employees at
anyone time, if that. There will also be a new parking lot added. There
is a total of 60 parkings spaces that is shown. The business is more of a
"drop off, pick up" situation.
Mrs.
parking
however,
for that
approved
1) lot
Motors.
Petroski referred to weekend parking. During the week the one
lot is never used. The problem on the weekend is home meets;
Queensbury Motors has consented to the use of their parking lot
purpose without remuneration. All parents have to be in an
parking lot, before the meet starts or the meet will not start:
in front of the building, 2) lot further down, or 3) Queensbury
New York State requires fenced in playgrounds.
Mr. Griffin asked about expanding the parking lot to the side. Mrs.
Petroski said yes; however, one of the things she has been waiting for is
to see where the sewers are going to go, on which side, and how that will
effect what she has, before ripping up land.
She confirmed to Mr. Muller that Phase II is a gymnasium on bottom
floor and classrooms on the upper floor. The building will be the same
height as the first building. There is temporary landscaping where Phase
III is to go.
Public Hearing Opeaed:
Mark Brilling:
Has two young, pre-school children and approves of the services at
this center.
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Public Hearinl Closed:
Mr. Muller moved APPROVAL of Use Variance No. 1335, Dr. and Mrs.
Douglas Petroski, as the hardship that existed on the first application is
a continuing one. It is reasonable to expect expansion of its present
use. It does not detract from the neighborhood and would be unlikely that
it would have a reasonable return, if used for light industrial for which
it is zoned.
Seconded by Mr. Turner.
Passed Unaniao..ly.
USB VAlIANCE NO. 1336
Bayron Sales
Mrs. Goetz read this proposal to be for heavy equipment sales, County
Line Road, LI-IA. At present the land is vacant (abandoned farm land).
Mr. Ron Chartrand represented the project and read a statement
(Exhibit D). He has owned the property since March 1987, and did know
that it was zoned light industrial. He said that under the classifica-
tion, wholesale business is permitted there. No buildings would be
constructed. There is a septic system, so the area has to be kept clear.
The barn was there.
Mr. Muller requested confirmation regarding property area. Answer:
There is 200 feet of road front; goes 200 feet deep on one side toward the
town line; there is a 200 foot line that goes at an angle. The farm house
is part of the land; however, we own all the land around this area in
every direction. The north edge of the farm house connects to the line.
Actually we own about 1500 to 1800 feet beyond the eastern marker, which
gets into Kingsbury. The Tax Map No. is 109.-5-3 for Queensbury, which
consists of 11.39 acres. There was more definition at the dais.
Mr.
Corp.,
dual.
Chartrand confirmed that he is president of Airron Industrial
and the entity is a corporation and business owned by an indivi-
Mr. Muller expressed concern that Mr. Chartrand is proposing to use
this oddly shaped piece of property for which he seeks a variance, leaving
everything else as zoned. Answer: Yes. However, he felt that this would
not change the zoning, with the use permitted. However, Mr. Prime indi-
cated that essentially the question is what he wants to use the property
for and how much land he wants to devote to that use. Hr. Chartrand
stated that the land is isolated because of the east/west runway of the
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airport, the location of the house, and because of the septic tank system
which is in place. He questioned as to what he was to do with the land if
he cannot do something that does not qualify for the LI-1A classfication
for which it is zone? He pointed out that the LI-IA classification allows
a wholesale business. Mack Dean felt that the definition was being taken
out of context. That is under new Rule 2, warehousing for enclosed stor-
age of goods, materials and warehouse wholesale businessess. Evidently
the concept and intent was of an enclosed goods wholesale in a building
primarily, as opposed to other zones where heavy equipment, sales and
display are under a Site Plan Review. Heavy equipment sales are in a
Highway Commercial zone.
Mr. Huller reviewed that the Board wanted to establish that the pro-
perty is entitled to a Use Variance. There are some larger land holdings,
with a smaller piece in which the owner is interested in using for a par-
ticular use. Within the smaller piece, is the farm house included?
Answer: Not according to that sketch. The designated property goes from
County Line Road to the east edge of the house; then 200 feet northeast to
a yellow stake inserted into the ground; 200 feet west to another yellow
stake at the County Line Road; and then 200 feet on the front. The reason
that this piece of land was selected is because it cannot be used for the
designated use that is permitted in the LI-1A use designation. Muller:
If that is so, Mr. Chartrand needs to be able to prove to the Board that
he cannot use that particular piece of property as zoned, that circum-
stances are unique and that he has made effort~; ie: using it for light
industrial use, sell for light industrial use, etc. Chartrand: He did
not feel this could be done because of the septic tank being in jeopardy;
and, because of the airport easement, which the Planning Board would have
to approve and there are low airplanes flying very low, a detriment to
industry. He also stated that there are not actually 11 acres, because of
the airport ground easement. No buildings can be built there. Mr.
Chartrand did not know how much land was in the subject piece of property
in Queensbury, after the easement was deducted.
Mr. Chartrand explained to the Board that the reason he is requesting
this particular use for this piece of land is to improve the rest of the
land, which is very expensive. There is a lot of black clay.
To summarize, Mr. Muller said that 1) there is an irregularly shaped
lot, 2) that it must be one acre, 3) there must be appropriate setbacks
from the house (lot line cannot be by the edge of the house), 4) there
must be proof to the Board regarding the three questions on the Zoning
Board application, Page 2. Hr. Chartrand stated that his neighbor, Mr.
Fisher, is in favor of the request. He did mention that Kingsbury allows
heavy equipment sales (this was amended in March 1987) to conform with
other businesses that are presently in the Warren/Washington Industrial
Park, which is part of Queensbury. Again Mr. Chartrand said that he is
asking to improve land in Queensbury by being permitted to sell equipment
that he can use to accomplish this feat and also be able to have an
opportunity to sell it and use the profits to continue to groom the land,
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get it to drain , and get some industry in the area, and improve the base
of Queensbury's tax rate, etc.
Mr. Muller asked again if Hr. Chartrand can demonstrate to the Board
how a reasonable return on the property is not possible to use as zoned.
Answer: Because of the east/west right of way, because of location of the
house, because of the septic tank location. There is not that much land
to the north of the house that would be in compliance with the LI-1A
uses. In addition, the previous owners would not sell the smaller portion
of the land separately. He had to buy the entire piece; however, he only
wanted the upper part of the parcel. Mr. Chartrand also stated that there
is a possibility that he could waiver his application and go to Kingsbury
and set up his business.
In defense of Mr. Muller's review, Mr. Turner stated that an owner
cannot cut a piece of property and say that it is not suitable. It is
necessary to come in with dollars and cents aspects of this particular
property that it cannot be used as zoned; ie: put the land up for sale for
a period of time through a broker. Stating directly to the point, Mr.
Prime suggested that a broker be brought in to testify that the property
cannot be used as zoned. After additional discussion regarding proof, Mr.
Chartrand advised that he was withdrawing his application and that he
would go to Kingsbury. When Mr. Mueller suggested counsel, he said that a
lawyer and/or a realtor would be too expensive. Mr. Chartrand then said
the Board could Table the application, if desired, since perhaps he was
too hasty in withdrawing. This would give him time to get his thoughts
together and get a broker. He felt the zoning requirements were entirely
too complicated, and that other areas have code books that specifically
designate, define and pinpoint the exact intent of what the use permits.
Mack Dean felt this was a point that is well taken.
Mr. Huller made a motion to TABLE Use Variance No. 1336, Bayron Sales,
until April 1988 at the request of the applicant.
Seconded by Mr. Sicard.
Passed V..nimoasly.
ADA VAllIAlICB NO. 1337
Ernest A. Butler
Mrs. Goetz read the application for a proposed addition of an attached
garage to provide sheltered parking located at 6 Fort Amherst Road,
SFR-I0. The request is for a two-foot setback, in lieu of the l5-foot
requirement.
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Mr. Mark Brilling, who represented the project, stated that the old
garage was converted into a family room. The driveway that is there now
is the original driveway. The pool had to be located where it is because
of underground power lines and other lines running through the yard. Mr.
Butler has owned the property for 14 - 15 years. The reason for the gar-
age is so that the house can be sold, because interested buyers would not
buy without the garage. Hr. Brilling advised Mr. Griffin that he had
signed slips from the neighbors on all sides and there were no objections.
Mrs. Goetz informed the Board that the other side of the street is Glens
Falls and was concerned that those residents would not have been informed;
however, Mr. Brilling said that signatures were obtained from most of
them. Mr. Butler also owns property across the street. Mrs. Goetz noted
for the record that the Town of Queensbury probably, because they do not
have the tax maps for the city, would notify the mayor and it is up to the
discretion of the mayor to notify the people living in Glens Falls. Mr.
Brilling said that the people in Glens Falls were not notified by the
mayor; however, the agent did do so - residents within at least a 500 foot
circle.
In answer to Mr. Turner, the exterior of the proposed extension is 10'
8" x 28' 6", the same length of the e?tisting bUilding. Roof lines and
slate will match the existing structure, all architecture will match. The
size will be tight, but a large car will be able to fit.
After reviewing the signatures which were secured by Mr. Brilling,
Mrs. Goetz wanted to make note that not all the signatures were within 500
feet. Mr. Brilling affirmed that some were outside but, if the residents
were within the block on Fort Amherst and Garrison, the signatures are
there. Mrs. Goetz mentioned that her feelings are that this is a self-
imposed hardship, because the owners chose to abaudon the original garage
and make it into a family room. Mr. Brill1ng mentioned that it was very
difficult to get in and out of the original garage; snow had to be removed
from the site because the area was needed for turning the car around;
there were some impracticalities, ie; the doors were narrow. The garage
was converted in 1973.
Public Jleariq Opened: no comment.
Public Beariq Closed.
Mrs. Goetz stated that the Warren County Planning Board modified with
condition with the stipulation that the adjoining property owner approves.
(Mrs. Margaret Cornwell). Mrs. Cornwell was present at the meeting and
mentioned a telephone conversation she had with Mr. Butler, at which time
she felt he was most unpleasant. Mrs. Cornwell read to the Board her
response to Mr. Butler which stated that she would approve of the project,
so that the garage could be added and the house could be sold quickly.
Mr. Brilling said the property was on city sewers and that the pitch
of the roof will be towards the driveway.
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Mr. Kelley moved APPROVAL of Area Variance No. 1337, Ernest A. Butler,
because of testimony that 1) the house in the neighborhood would warrant a
garage for resale purposes; 2) there are no surrounding neighbors that are
in opposition; and 3) there appears to be ample distance between this
proposed garage and the home next door. The practical difficulty is that
the design of the house lends itself to having a garage in this particular
position, and the garage cannot be made smaller.
Seconded by Mr. Sicard.
Passed Votes: 4 Yes (Kelley, Muller, Sicard, Turner)
2 No (Goetz, Griffin)
The following items took place after the public meeting.
IJSE VAlIAlCE NO. 1329
Joseph G. Regan, SFR-I0 Zone, 637 Glen Street.
Reference: Minutes of February 17, 1988, Page 18, Hotion by Mr. Muller
(Paragraph 14).
Correspondence was received from Donald A. Matusik specifically re-
questing of the Boa~d in writing, pointing out and directing its attention
to the disapproval resolution, and that the record indicates no testimony
or substantiation of clear knowledge of present zoning. Mr. Muller
acknowledged that statement to be true.
Therefore, Hr. Muller moved MODIFICATION of the motion of Use Variance
No. 1329, Joseph G. Regan as follows:
Strike from the motion the last sentence which reads as follows:
"There has been testimony that it was purchased for
$109,000, in December of 1987, with the clear knowledge of
the present zoning."
Insert into the motion the following, which will be the last sentence:
"The applicant demonstrated through his testimony and
through our observation of the site, that 1) it was pur-
chased for $109,000 in December of 1987; and 2) he purchased
it from the then current owner as a single family residence,
and that it is a single family residence, and that on both
sides of that single family residence there are single fam-
ily residences."
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Seconded by Mr. Turner.
Passed U.aniaou8ly
Hr. Muller stated that the sense of his motion was that the applicant
was knowledgeable of the zoning ordinance, just as any other party. It is
a matter of public record. It is no secret that he is an attorney at law,
and that he was buying it for himself. Mr. Muller felt that the context
of the presentation changed several times, specifically in regards to the
ownership and who was maintaining residence. Important in the testimony
was the area in which Mr. Matusik stated that he purchased the property in
December, had intended to submit an application in January (which was
filed in December), but did net have it in on time and that is why he was
at the February hearing; in addition to the fact that Mr. Matusik had
lived in the house, and discovered six weeks after the purchase that it
was net habitable for a single family residence. Mr. Muller felt that, if
he was confused in his motion, it was because of the applicant's presenta-
tion, and that he staRds firm that Mr. Matusik knew or should have known
of the zoning, and that the applicant did not at any time present that he
clearly knew of the zoning and seemed to ignore it.
TABLmG 01 APPLICATIOJlS
Lee York,
applications be
the following:
Sr. Planner,
established.
has requested that a procedure for Tabling
The Zoning Board of Appeals is submitting
1) If an applicant wishes the application to be TABLED, a request will
be submitted in writing to the Board with information substantiat-
ing why the Board should take the action. If there is sufficient
reason, the application will be Tabled by the Board.
2) If an application is on the Agenda for review and appropriate
representation is present, the Board may have the option to Table
the application if it deems necessary due to unusual circumstances;
ie: not enough information, etc.
3) An applicant or representative not present at the designated review
meeting or has not submitted a request to the Board to table the
application, will automatically have to re-apply.
The Board has suggested that a statement be put on the bottom of the
application form with respect to the policy regarding non-refundable
monies.
Hrs.
into a
Goetz MOVED that the above-mentioned three items be incorporated
Procedure for TABLING Applications. In addition, a statement be
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put on the bottom of the application form with respect to the policy
regarding non-refundable monies.
The meeting was adjourned at 11:00 p.m.
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Theodore Turner, Chairman
Minutes typed by Mary Jane F. Moeller, Stenographer
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Q1JEDSBftY Z'.IIG lOAD OF APPBALS
.A1mIJ)D RESOLUTION TQ THE DBDay 18, 1988 mnns
IJSE VAllIAlfCE RO. 1329. JOSEPH G. REGAN
Reference: Page 18, Paragraph 14 of the above-mentioned minutes:
Mr. Muller moved MODIFICATION of the motion of Use Variance No. 1329,
Joseph G. Regan as follows:
Strike from the motion the last sentence which reads as follows:
"There has been testimony that it was purchased for
$109,000, in December of 1987, with the clear knowledge of
the present zoning."
Insert into the motion the following, which will be the last sentence:
"The applicant demonstrated through his testimony and
through our observation of the site, that 1) it was pur-
chased for $109,000 in December of 1987; and 2) he purchased
it from the then current owaer as a single family residence,
and that it is a single family residence, and that on both
sides of that single family residence there are single fam-
ily residences."
Seconded by Mr. Turner.
Passed laani.o..ly
The motion for Variance No. 1329, Joseph G. Regan, reads as follows
after modification:
"Mr. Mueller moved DISAPPROVAL of Use Variance No. 1329,
Joseph G. Regan, because of the adverse affect upon the
neighborhood. There are varfances from the ordinance that
are monumental. This is approximately 1/7th of an acre, and
the parking requirements entail a tight situation. There
would be a serious deleterious impact on Windsor Drive.
Economic hardship is sold as zoned. The applicant demon-
strated through his testimony and through our observation of
the site, that 1) it was purchased for $109,000 in December;
and 2) he purchased it from the then current owner as a
single family residence, and that it is a single family
residence, and that on both sides of that single family
residence there are single family residences."
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Glens Fallg, N.Y. 12801
(510)792-8989
1109 Lincoln Ave.
Lockport, N.Y. 14094
(716)433-5605
March 2, 1988
Thruway Mall
Harlem Rd. & Walden Ave.
Cheektowaga, N.Y. 14225
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Ms. Susan Davidson
Planning Department
Town of Queensbury
Bay & Haviland Roads
Glens Falls, New York
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Re: Ferraro Entertainments, Inc./Skateland
of, Glens Falls
Area Variance No. 1230
Site Plan Review File No. 6-87
Dear Ms. Davidson:
In pursuance of our telephone conversation of Monday,
February 29th, please accept this letter as formal request
of the Planning Board of the Town of Queensbury and the
Zoning Board of the Town of Queensbury to extend the .
approvals heretofore granted to Ferraro Entertainments,
owner of Skateland of Glens Falls, to develop a waterslide
facility on the Skateland property to be located at the rear
(western end) of the Skateland parcel. This approval was
granted by the Zoning Bqard On March 18, 1987.
In the intervening months, since the approval of this
application, this site has been cleared and made generally
ready to receive the slide to be built by Aqua World of
DesMoines, Iowa. The slide itself has been ordered from the
manufacturer, having been so in November, 1987. The
construction drawings for the slide are expected momentarily
and delivery of the slide has been promised by its
manufacturer at the end of March, when the site would be
susceptible to construction of this type of facility. It is
anticipated that the construction process will require
approximately 8 weeks to complete.'
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We are aware that, the variance and site plan review
process generally afford an applicant a I-year period within
which to initiate construction of the proposed improvement.
Owing to complications which arose in Cheektowaga, New York
in connection with the development of a new roller skating
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facility for that site, it was not possible to devote the
corporation I s resources or personnel in' the intensive manner
required to supervise this construction program during the
Summer and Fall of 1987. This was, in addition, complicated
by the availability of scheduling from our supplier. Aqua
World, of slides during this period of year coming from the
manufacturers. As noted, the slide has since been ordered
and is scheduled for delivery to our site in the Town of
Queensbury at the end of March when, weather permitting. the
construction will be completed in approximately 8 weeks. It
should be further noted that no modifications are
anticipated or have been sought from the manufacturer that
vary in any matèrial way from the design proposed and
approved by the town in the Spring of last year.
We would respectfully request that, for the reasons
above stated, an extension of time be granted to Ferraro
Entertainment to commence the actual construction of the
improvement at the Skateland facility on Route 9 in the Town
of Queensbury. As noted, the site has been cleared and
leveled and fill brought to the site to improve the grade
where required. The site is now ready to accept the
superstructure and footings of the waterslide which is
scheduled for delivery to our facility on Route 9 at the end
of March. Accordingly, the favorable action by the
Queensbury Planning Board and the Queensbury Zoning Board of
Appeals is respectfully requested to enable our facility to
carry forward with these improvements as soon as the
construction season and materials del~very permit.
Sincerely yours,
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AN~ON~ J. FERRARO, President
Ferraro Entertainments, Inc.
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TOWN OF QUEENSBURY
COMM~~TEE FOR COMMUNITY BEAUTIFICATION
Robert L. Eddy, Chairman
17 Owen Avenue
"Queensbury, N. Y. 12801
To.
(X) Warren County Planning Board
( ) Queensbury Town Planning Board
(X) Queensbury Town Zoning Board of Appeals
(X) Applicant
Mrs. Arthur J. Seney, Secretary
8 Queensbury Avenue
Queensbury, N. Y. 12801
Date. 2/8/88
Res Use variance #1325
Mobil Oil Corp.
Route 9 and 254
We have reviewed the request for. (X) Variance, ( ) Site Plan Review,
( ) Other - and have the following recommendations.
( ) Approval ( ) Disapproval
One of the finest gas station plantings in Queensbury was
destroyed when the current building was being erected. The
plantings agreed upon at that time have not been checked to
see if comforms to agreements, but more importantly at this
time is the fact that signs are not as stipulated by the
Queensbury Zoning Board of Appeals.
Two signs that were to be removed are still in place:-
the one on the canopy facing Route 9 and the "ladder" sign
near the entrance to the building.
Approval of this variance should hinge upon the non-
conforming signs being removed first.
In addition to the above landscaping, screening and planting provisions,
the Committee wishes to go on record that it does not approves
1. Non-conforming signs,
2. Plastic or artificial trees, shrubs or flowers.
In approving the above (or attached plans), the Committee has the expressed
or implied agreement of the applicant to replace immediately dead trees,
shrubs or plants, and to give proper maintenance to all plantings. All
'rubbish containers or dumpsters shall be screened, all plantings shall be
mulched and trees shall be retained or planted, as agreed.
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PAUL E. PONTi,,.
ROBERT S. STEWART
ALAN R. RHODES
H. WAYNE .JUDGE
ROBERT S. McMILLEN
PHILIP C. MciNTIRE
MARK A. LEBOWITZ
.J. LAWRENCE PALTROWITZ
MALCOLM B. O'HARA
PATRICIA E. WATKINS
.JOHN W. CA,.,.RY
GARY C. HOBBS
MARK E. CERASANO
BARTLETT, PONTIFF, STEWART, RHODES Be JUDGE, P. C.
ATTORNEYS AT LAW
ONE WASHINGTON STREET AL,.RED D. CLARK
P. O. Box 380 1180.-18...
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January 19, 1988
Planning and Zoning Department
Queensbury Office Building
Bay Road at Haviland
Glens Falls, New York 12801
Attn: Susan Davidson
RE: Area Variance #1288 - 51 Aviation Road
Elaina's Beauty Boutique
Dear Ms. Davidson:
Please be advised that our client, Elaina Bissell, is still awaiting
judicial determination of her action concerning the real property
known 'as 51 Aviation Road. Please adjourn the above-referenced matter
until further notice from this office or from Elaina Bissell.
Thank you for your time and consideratiòn.
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To Whom It May Concern;
I am Ronald Chartrand, President of Airron and owner of Bayron
Sales. Bayron Sales has a recorded business certificate with
the Warren County Clerks Office dated April 16, -1976.
In the past I have sold several pieces of equipment in the airport
area. The profits from the sale of this equipment was used to
offset the expense of draining, grading and/or excavating the
land to·be able to have access over the land at all, times. By
having the use of equipment sales I would be able to use the
equipment that would be for sale to excavate the land for 365
days a year access.
Our Kingsbury neighbors bordering us on the East and in the Warren-
Washington County Industrial Park allows in their Industrial
Zone heavy equipment sales. The entire area is industrial so
there would be, in my view, no adverse effeci on the neighborhood.
The land that I am requesting use for'equipment sales is isolated
so as not to permit for LI-1A uses as set forth in permitted
uses. Land abuts Warren County Airport East-West runway R.O.W.
The house to the south along with it's septic systems and drainage
fields doesn't allow for a building to b~ placed on this land~
Therefore, because of this, the land is useless for Ll-1A use.
This l~nd has been abandoned farmland £ormany years. When
it was used for farm land .it still contained very large rocks
and clay seil, along with being wet and low to the road grade.
The cost to make this land fully useable is extremely high. Presently,
th~ land is covered with trees that make it look like a jungle.
I would remove ail trees and grade lot to drain and to look a~tended. ,
By removing the 35~ tb 40' high trees this woUld be a plus to
the Warren County Airport East-West Runway approaches..
Sincerely,
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President
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ATTORNEY AT LAW
611 Glen Street. Glens Falls, New York 12801
518-793-6604
February 29, 1988
Theodore Turner, Chairman
Queensbury Zoning Board of Appeals
R.D. #1, Meadowbrook Road
Queensbury, New York 12801
Re: Use Variance No. 1329
637 Glen Street
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PLANNING & ZONING
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I enclose for your reference copy of Notice of Disapproval
of Use Variance 1329. I call your attention to the last
sentence in the disapproval resolution. The record clearly
indicates no testimony or substantiation of clear knowledge of
present zoning. The only testimony given was my own indicating
that we did not inquire as to the zoning until after the
purchase, which is, in fact, the case. No one, of course,
could come forward to indicate otherwise.
Since this memorandum of disapproval may very well appear
in the Court record at an Appellate Level, I would ask that
'this sentence be immediately struck and decision modified
accordingly.
Please let me hear from you personally if my request will
not be complied with.
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DoN~ MATUSIK
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Enclosure
cc Susan Goetz, Secretary
Zoning Board of Appeals
Town of Queensbury
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