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JUNE 14, 2010 RES. 230
7:00 PM
TOWN BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT
SUPERVISOR DANIEL STEC
COUNCILMAN ANTHONY METIVIER
COUNCILMAN RONALD MONTESI- Absent
COUNCILMAN JOHN STROUGH
COUNCILMAN TIM BREWER
TOWN COUNSEL
ROBERT HAFNER
PRESS
POST STAR
DUNHAM’S BAY LODGE
Town Board discussed with Attorney, Michael O’Connor the use of portable toilets for outdoor
functions at the Dunham’s Bay Lodge. This will be considered on a temporary basis, for up to
ninety days, while the owner establishes a comprehensive wastewater plan.
DISCUSSION: SOLID WASTE COLLECTION DISTRICT
SUPERVISOR STEC- We’re looking at the possibility of establishing a municipal trash
collection district. I sent an email to Board Members with information pertaining to this. The
Town also received information back in 2005 on residential refuse collection from the Local
State Comptroller’s Office which was placed in each Board Member mailboxes. Previous
research estimated that a residential solid waste collection district would save residents
collectively just under a million dollars. In this economy and in this climate if we can use our
collective buying power in a way that we can all live with to get people a good deal on garbage
collection. Another benefit would be one truck going through the neighborhood once a week
instead of a truck a day two or three times a week, resulting in less wear and tear on the road.
This will also work out better in the winter time with snow plowing. Instead of dodging garbage
cans several times a week it will be only one day a week. Obviously the big thing is the potential
savings. The reason why we didn’t jump on this last time was there was concerns among some
Board Members, maybe even most Board members if we get into this business of putting it out to
bid that we could squeeze out some of the other big players in the area.
COUNCILMAN BREWER- How do we prevent a vendor from going into a neighborhood?
ATTORNEY HAFNER- When this was considered four and six years ago the discussion was
that either people were going to go with the one that won the bid from the Town or they would
opt out. If you opted out you would have to take your garbage to one of the two town transfer
stations. Those were the only two choices that was talked about.
COUNCILMAN BREWER- If I opt out what’s to stop me from hiring a different vendor. Can
we prevent that?
ATTORNEY HAFNER- You can. You’d make it illegal. The Town Board makes policy. When
you’re doing this the idea is to make money for the residents and the way that you are most
likely to be able to get the best price is if someone knows that they are going to get the majority
of the residents. You can have an option to get it yourself but then you’re not providing all of the
benefits that were expected.
SUPERVISOR STEC- Like limiting how many times a truck drives through a neighborhood.
There will be residents that are not interested
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ATTORNEY HAFNER- You have the right to tell people that they have to hook up to your
sewer line. The Town will be responsible for arranging for that service. You might decide that
you want people maintain the right to keep whatever relationships they have. That’s totally up to
the Town Board and that’s part of the purpose tonight to get input.
SUPERVISOR STEC- Legally if we wanted to we could say it’s not exclusive, if you want go
and hire someone else you can but we’ll lose two things, savings and the benefits of having
fewer trucks driving through the neighborhood.
ATTORNEY HAFNER- Some people would argue this is more efficient. It is totally up to the
Town how they want to structure it.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER- Concerned about the little guy being put out of business
SUPERVISOR STEC- We are only talking about residential here. The question is whether to
make this exclusive or not.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER- Take this a step further and say that we are doing this district just
like we have a sewer district and if you don’t want to participate but you still have to pay. Can
you do that?
ATTORNEY HAFNER- Yes. There’s different ways that we could do it. We specifically, when
we looked at it in 2004 and 2006, we had input from the Town Board and that was the method
that met the desires. There are other methods. For instance the Town could take it over and do it
as a general tax and include in the ad valorum.
SUPERVISOR STEC- We don’t want to get into the business of hiring our own sanitary workers
and buy our own vehicles.
After further discussion it was the decision of the Board to have Attorney Hafner gather more
information so that they can begin speaking with trash haulers. One way to go would be to create
a district to cover a portion of the Town as sort of a trial. If all goes well they could later expand
town wide.
OTHER DISCUSSIONS HELD
COUNCILMAN BREWER- Spoke regarding complaints he received from constituents
concerning un-kept lawns and debris on private property. We do have a law regarding exterior
property areas being maintained free of weeds and or plants in growth in excess of ten inches.
Concerned that the time span in which the Town can take action is too long and would like to see
that shortened. He would also like to see stiffer penalties for these property owners. Ask
Attorney Hafner to look into this further.
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- Spoke regarding the Town exploring the option of banning the use
of certain types of lawn fertilizers. The Town of Lake George has recently adopted a law to this
effect.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER- It’s important to educate residents regarding the importance of
using only phosphorus-free fertilizers
ATTORNEY HAFNER- Will be in contact with Lake George to get a copy of the law that they
recently enacted.
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- Spoke regarding the Lakes to Locks Program and promoting
Queensbury. There was discussion about placing Kiosks on Main Street, Hovey Pond, the
Million Dollar Half Mile as well as the Great Escape. Will be in contact with the gentleman that
is working on this to schedule a meeting to discuss this further.
SUPERVISOR STEC- The next workshop will cover topics on the zoning code, as well as
highway projects.
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RESOLUTION ADJOURNING SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING
RESOLUTION NO. 230, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Daniel Stec
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
RESOLVED,
that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns its Special
Town Board Meeting.
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Duly adopted this 14 day of June, 2010 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Metivier, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec
NOES: None
ABSENT: Mr. Montesi
Respectfully submitted,
Miss Darleen M. Dougher
Town Clerk-Queensbury