2010-09-13 MTG #34
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REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING MTG # 34
September 13, 2010 RES. 303-319
7:00 P.M. BOH: 24-25
LL: 10
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT
SUPERVISOR DANIEL STEC
COUNCILMAN ANTHONY METIVIER
COUNCILMAN RONALD MONTESI
COUNCILMAN JOHN STROUGH
COUNCILMAN TIM BREWER
TOWN COUNSEL
ROBERT HAFNER
TOWN OFFICIALS
WASTEWATER SUPERINTENDENT, MIKE SHAW
WATER SUPERINTENDENT, BRUCE OSTRANDER
PRESS
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POST STAR
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCILMAN RONALD MONTESI
SUPERVISOR STEC-Opened Meeting
1.0 RESOLUTION CALLING FOR QUEENSBURY BOARD OF HEALTH
RESOLUTION NO. 303, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
RESOLVED
, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby moves into the
Queensbury Board of Health.
Duly adopted this 13th day of September, 2010 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
QUEENSBURY BOARD OF HEALTH
NOTICE SHOWN
PUBLICATION DATE: August 27, 2010
PUBLIC HEARING SANITARY SEWAGE DISPOSAL VARIANCE OF EDWARD AND
PHILOMENA VANPUTTE
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SUPERVISOR STEC- This is seeking three variances from out of Chapter 136. The property is
located on Glen Lake on 23 Jay Road West, a placement of a holding tank to be five feet from
the foundation in lieu of ten feet, placement of a holding tank five feet of the property line in lieu
of ten feet and placement of a holding tank to be forty one feet from Glen Lake and the well in
lieu of the required fifty feet. With that said, I will open the public hearing and I’ll let the
applicant and or his agent make a brief summary statement if they need to add to that.
ATTORNEY, MICHAEL BORGOS- Thank you Mr. Supervisor, for the record, Michael Borgos
of Borgos and Delsignore for the applicant. With me is Patrick VanPutte, speaking on behalf of
his parents and Tom Jarrett as Engineer. I’ll let Tom introduce and explain to you exactly what’s
happening. Patrick do you want to give them the overview
PATRICK VANPUTTE- At this point in time, what we’re looking to do is replace the existing
cesspool that’s there today. It’s nothing more than really a leach field that’s been, was put in
place when the property was built back in the 1920’s. The challenge that we’re facing is because
of the size of the lot. We cannot meet the so called restrictions or the requirements of where that
tank needs to be placed. So we have with the structure, with the dwelling that we’re looking at
come up with a solution that we feel betters the property and adds value to the premise.
SUPERVISOR STEC- One question we typically will ask is that is this a prelude to an expansion
of the living space of the building or are we merely correcting an engineering issue with the
septic
MR. VANPUTTE- The history of this is that it was occasioned by fire loss on July fourth of
2009.
SUPERVISOR STEC- Okay
MR. VANPUTTE- So it was an existing camp there. Now the economics of it really dictate that
we take a hard look at the floor space that we put back there when we go to build. It’s the
possibility that we are going to pursue with obtaining variances at the other boards. It’s not
anything definite at this time
SUPERVISOR STEC- So it could be a larger structure than what was there
MR. VANPUTTE- That’s correct
TOM JARRETT- However let’s throw a little caveat out here; the intensity of use won’t change.
It will be three bedrooms now and in the future.
SUPERVISOR STEC- And again, I mean, you’re familiar Tom, we typically
MR. JARRETT- One’s three bedrooms
SUPERVISOR STEC- we typically ask these questions, it’s usually not a show stopper for us but
we usually like to know what we’re walking everyone into if we approve it.
MR. JARRETT- But we want to differentiate between floor space and number of bedrooms
SUPERVISOR STEC- Understood, understood
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- But this is also because I went looking for it and I see there’s no
structure at 23 Jay west, there’s just a hole in the ground. Very, very, very, very small lot.
MR. VANPUTTE- I understand
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- I don’t know what you’re going to put in there for a structure.
What? I’d like to see what you’re going to put in there for a structure, because whatever you’re
going to put in there is going to have to be really small.
MR. VANPUTTE- We were going to follow pretty much the existing footprint that was there
previously from the standpoint of the existing foundation etcetera.
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COUNCILMAN STROUGH- Which may not have been the healthiest situation to begin with
because of the size of the lot. I mean, that’s pretty small
MR. VANPUTTE- No, I understand
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- You’ve got to keep in mind, Glen Lake’s health isn’t improving,
we all know it’s just doing the opposite. One of the problems is the density around the shoreline
of that Lake. I mean, a three bedroom home on that lot, maybe a one bedroom cottage or studio
place or something like that might go in there. But a three bedroom place on that lot, I’m having
trouble visualizing that. I’d like to know when you go before the Zoning Board, if you go before
the Zoning Board how many variances you’re going to have to put something like a three
bedroom place up there. I’m wondering what are they going to ask you to do, reduce it down to a
studio size apartment. Just because it’s a lot doesn’t mean a three bedroom house is the
appropriate thing for this one tenth of an acre? I just have real serious reservations
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- I voted against this even bringing it to a public hearing the last
time. But, I did do a field trip, field visit and one of the things that our Building Inspector and
our Planning Department told me was I may have some reservations just as John does about size
of the lot but you could have rebuilt the house and septic system exactly the way it was. As you
point out the septic system on that size lot was almost a direct line into the Lake, which probably,
you know, in 1920 when they built it wasn’t a problem but today it is, would have been. So, as a
trade off you’re putting in a holding tank. I had some concerns because it’s on a cul-de sac or a
dead end road how a septic truck would get there but obviously it will be difficult but they will.
As far as I’m concerned, at least that’s cleaning up the Lake to that point. Whether you’re going
to rebuild an eight hundred square feet
MR. VANPUTTE- A little over eight hundred square feet
COUNCILMAN BREWER- That’s eight sixty on the bottom floor, Ron
MR. VANPUTTE- That’s correct, that’s correct
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- I know in the old house you could have walked from the road to
get on the roof
MR. VANPUTTE- That’s correct, that is absolutely correct
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- I think all in all, it’s an improvement in terms of environmentally
protecting the Lake; whether or not you will get the variances for, and I’m sure what you’re
faced with sideline, rear setback, etcetera, etcetera
MR. VANPUTTE- Correct
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- Height probably
MR. VANPUTTE- Depending on the structure that may be the case
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- I’m happy that at least it’s a holding tank and it’s not going into
the ground.
MR. VANPUTTE- Right, our objection was to follow that footprint as close as possible when it
comes to the foundation and I was going to
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- If you look at it from a point of view that it’s your mom and dad’s
house, they must have grandkids, who wants them swimming in a lake
MR. VANPUTTE- Well, that was my thought once I found out what we had, that was our
thought
SUPERVISOR STEC- Any other Board Members have questions or comments before we take
some public comment? All right, the public hearing is open, if there’s any members of the public
that would like to comment on this Board of Health variance application just raise your hand and
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I’ll call on folks one at a time. Okay, Board Members have any other questions or comments for
the applicant? Tim
COUNCILMAN BREWER- These are seventeen hundred and fifty gallon a piece Tom?
MR. JARRETT- Yes, that’s correct
COUNCILMAN BREWER- On this sheet you gave us here, I don’t see seventeen fifty.
MR. JARRETT- It should be on the plan; I don’t know what you’re looking
COUNCILMAN BREWER- That this is what an example of what the tank is like
MR. JARRETT- That’s just the construction of the tank itself yes
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- Well, you know what I don’t see on the plan Tom is the alarm
system setup
MR. JARRETT- Those details have not been prepared yet, the surveyor showed the location of
the tanks and one of the comments, I believe that was made by this Board or maybe staff was the
details are still forthcoming. So, we would, depending on the conditions that you impose; we
would submit those details to the Building Department including an alarm and a water shut off.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER- You couldn’t get an approval without an alarm
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- Well, we’re giving the approval
COUNCILMAN METIVIER- No
COUNCILMAN BREWER- Just for the septic
MR. JARRETT- From the Building Department we wouldn’t be able
COUNCILMAN METIVIER- From the Building Department you can’t get your final approval I
should say
COUNCILMAN BREWER- I mean I don’t have a big issue with five feet from the foundation or
the property line if it’s a holding tank, if it was a septic system and it’s something different, but
as long as you’re going to be having it pumped out whenever it’s needed to be pumped I don’t
have a big problem with it really
MR. JARRETT- That’s correct
SUPERVISOR STEC- And historically that’s how we looked at it, there’s always been a debate
as to how much flexibility the Town’s truly have as far as approving or not approving holding
tanks, whether there seasonal in nature or not seasonal in nature. The bottom line is, it’s a
practical matter, as long as there’s controls and alarms in place on the system the tank, unless it
springs a leak it shouldn’t go anywhere
COUNCILMAN BREWER- In fact, I think it would be safer for the whole Lake if everybody
had a holding tank
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- I do too but
SUPERVISOR STEC- Right, it would probably, and we’ve generally looked favorably on
holding tanks for those reasons.
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- But the other issue here too is the floor area ratio. What’s the floor
area ratio?
COUNCILMAN BREWER- John, that’s Planning Board and Zoning Board stuff, that’s not us
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COUNCILMAN STROUGH- Well, when I’m considering the septic system, I’m considering the
big picture, I’m considering the whole package
COUNCILMAN BREWER- That’s not our job though
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- That’s my job
SUPERVISOR STEC- Well, the question before us is the septic variance question. I mean, if you
need other variances you’ll have to go to other appropriate boards for that or whatever, buyer
beware that approval from this Board tonight really would be just for the holding tank. After that
you would have to deal with the constraints of the lot, which are several
MR. VANPUTTE- We understand that
SUPERVISOR STEC- Any other public comment? All right, I will close this public hearing.
Any other discussion by the Board or would somebody try to take a swing at a motion
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- I’ll move it with an alarm system
SUPERVISOR STEC- Moved to approve provided that it has the appropriate alarms and shut
off. Okay motioned by Councilman Montesi
COUNCILMAN BREWER- I’ll second
SUPERVISOR STEC- Seconded by Councilman Brewer, any other discussion by the Board?
Okay, Rose if you want to call the vote please
RESOLUTION APPROVING SANITARY SEWAGE DISPOSAL
VARIANCE FOR EDWARD AND PHILOMENA VANPUTTE
RESOLUTION NO.: BOH 24, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHEREAS, Edward and Philomena VanPutte applied to the Local Board of Health for a
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variance from Chapter 136, 136-11, which requires applicants to obtain a variance for holding
tanks and the applicants requested a holding tank as the leaching system will not meet the necessary
setback requirements, and
WHEREAS, the applicants also applied to the Local Board of Health for three (3) additional
variances from Chapter 136 to allow:
1.placement of the holding tank to be five feet (5’) from the foundation in lieu of the
required ten feet (10’) setback;
2.placement of the holding tank to be five feet (5’) from the property line in lieu of the
required ten feet (10’) setback; and
3.placement of the holding tank to be forty-one feet (41’) from Glen Lake and the well
in lieu of the required fifty feet (50’) setback;
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on property located at 23 Jay Road West in the Town of Queensbury, New York, and
WHEREAS, the Town Clerk’s Office published the Notice of Public Hearing in the Town’s
official newspaper and the Local Board of Health conducted a public hearing concerning the
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variance request on Monday, September 13, 2010, and
WHEREAS, the Town Clerk’s Office has advised that it duly notified all property owners
within 500 feet of the subject property,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that
1.due to the nature of the variance, the Local Board of Health finds that the variance will
not be materially detrimental to the purposes and objectives of this Ordinance or other
adjoining properties nor otherwise conflict with the purpose and objectives of any Town
plan or policy; and
2.the Local Board of Health finds that the granting of the variances is necessary for the
reasonable use of the land and are the minimum variances which would alleviate the
specific unnecessary hardship found by the Local Board of Health to affect the
applicants; and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Local Board of Health hereby approves the application of Edward and
Philomena VanPutte for variances from the Sewage Disposal Ordinance to allow installation of a
holding tank and three (3) additional variances from Chapter 136 to allow:
1.placement of the holding tank to be five feet (5’) from the foundation in lieu of the
required ten feet (10’) setback;
2.placement of the holding tank to be five feet (5’) from the property line in lieu of the
required ten feet (10’) setback; and
3.placement of the holding tank to be forty-one feet (41’) from Glen Lake and the well
in lieu of the required fifty feet (50’) setback;
provided that the holding tank has the appropriate alarms and shut-offs, on property located at 23
Jay Road West in the Town of Queensbury and bearing Tax Map No.: 289.10-1-18.
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Duly adopted this 13 day of September, 2010, by the following vote:
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AYES: Mr. Montesi, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier
NOES: Mr. Strough
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION ADJOURNING QUEENSBURY BOARD OF HEALTH
RESOLUTION NO. BOH 25, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
RESOLVED,
that the Queensbury Board of Health hereby adjourns its meeting and moves back
in regular session.
Duly adopted this 13th day of September, 2010 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
2.0 PUBLIC HEARINGS
PUBLIC HEARING ADOPTING SEQRA NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND
AMENDING ZONING LAW TO CHANGE CLASSIFICATION OF PARCELS ON
COUNTRY CLUB ROAD AND GLENWOOD AVENUE AND ENACTING LOCAL
LAW TO AMEND QUEENSBURY TOWN CODE CHAPTER 179 “ZONING”
NOTICE SHOWN
PUBLICATION DATE: August 27, 2010
SUPERVISOR STEC- Before we open the public hearing for the record, and I’ve already briefly
spoke with Rose about this earlier today and hopefully the Town Board and the public that’s
concerned will recall at our last regular meeting which was four weeks ago, which I believe
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would have been August 16 we took public comment on this overall request. However, because
we had a notice issue that wasn’t properly given we did not act on that public hearing but instead
that evening we set a new public hearing for tonight. I said that evening that we would take
comment and we include that comment as part of the file and the record for posterity sake. I
asked Rose in the Clerk’s Office to assure us that that happens and she said that she would do
that. So, we have already taken some comment on that from I think both of the two main
property owners involved and I think that their here this evening. With that said, I will open this
public hearing and take any public comment either restating what was said previously or
anything new on the proposed rezoning of I believe it’s seven parcels. Is it five or seven, I
haven’t looked at it in a little bit.
(By request of Town Board, comments of the public hearing on August 16, 2010 hereby
made part of this meeting—see meeting #31 dated: August 16, 2010)
COUNCILMAN METIVIER- Seven
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SUPERVISOR STEC- Seven parcels, four of which would be proposed to go back from office
back to moderate density residential, which is what they were, we had rezoned these properties
back in March or April; in looking at it again we decided that we wanted to entertain taking four
properties and putting them back to the moderate density residential and including three
properties that had been left out of the rezoning to office and in fact changing them to office.
Essentially being the Veterinarian Hospital on the corner of Woodvale and Glenwood. So, that’s
a general description of what we’re doing and with that said I’ll open the public hearing and if
there’s any members of the public who would like to comment again just raise your hand one at a
time. Mr. Lapper
ATTORNEY, JOHN LAPPER- Good evening everyone, I’m here with and on behalf of Tom
Drake who owns two of the parcels on the northern end 296-15-1-18 and dash 24. My partner
Stephanie Bitter was here last time to talk to you and after that discussion she had said that we
would come back with a conceptual plan and we have that to discuss, conceptual is really what it
is. But, what I want to show is that we feel the most appropriate use of this property in
conjunction with the property to the south, which is the Wiswall Trust, would be to do a
townhouse development similar to Westwood. To show that we have a plan that uses the
Westwood footprints, there four-plexes and a connector road that would connect from Glenwood
to Country Club. What we’re showing here is a total of thirty six units on all this property. So
we’re not talking about a major development but in terms of the use, which is really what we’re
here to talk about townhouse development is an appropriate use when you’re near Glenwood,
traffic corridor, you have sewer, which would enable the sewer to come through the Wiswall
property and access the Drake property. We do except that is this is not rezoned to acquire the
Wiswall property and come back to the Planning Board with a proposal similar to what I’m
handing out to you.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- John, how many parcels do you have to buy? Mr. Drake owns
which one of these on the map
SUPERVISOR STEC- There’s a couple I think, there’s two out of the four and Mr. Parisi, if I
miss pronounce your name, sir, I apologize, I think owns the two other ones, the northern most
one and these two are Mr. Drake’s and the other two are Parisi’s
COUNCILMAN METIVIER- Okay
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- So, you not only have to buy Wiswall but Parisi’s
ATTORNEY LAPPER- Not necessarily
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- Oh, okay
SUPERVISOR STEC- Now one of the other things that I’m pretty sure I mentioned it and I
recall now Stephanie was there, I don’t know, four weeks ago was again looking for either
compromises or ulterior designs, which is certainly you presented to us tonight and not wanting
to get into the business of working a site plan review for the project tonight
COUNCILMAN BREWER- He owns this already
SUPERVISOR STEC- But one of the suggestions I think I made was would it be feasible rather
than swinging to the west, out to Country Club Road as your second access point to work with
the property owner and swing to the east and access out onto Bay Road thus containing the entire
thing in office zoning as opposed to what we might not want to keep office zoning on Country
Club. I don’t know if you have an answer tonight or not. I’m pretty sure I mentioned that to
Stephanie that evening but, and I know there’s a lot of moving parts. You can’t guarantee what a
neighbors going to want to sell or not sell or whether it’s feasible or not.
ATTORNEY LAPPER- What we’re showing is that there are no units near Country Club Road
so it wouldn’t change the character of Country Club Road it’s just that road access because it
does make sense, the Town has a thousand foot limit on dead end roads. So, a connector would
make sense for traffic and it would also comply with the code. My understanding is that to go
towards Bay Road there are some major wetlands to cross that would not be feasible; besides the
fact the Town already owns this parcel. I think what we’re showing here is something modest
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with the number of units. It’s possible there may be another building that could be fit in another
four units. This is modest, it’s nowhere near as dense as Westwood and I think that I would argue
that Westwood is an appropriate use when you’re down there and you’ve got sewer and you’re
near Quaker Road and near Hannaford that that’s where you’d want to encourage townhouse
development. Westwood is mostly retired people, not a big impact on either of the school
districts and that’s what we would expect here but I think this is a very compatible use with
what’s next door.
SUPERVISOR STEC- Now John if I could, and again I apologize for morphing the Town Board
into the Planning Board a little bit, some of us like it more than others but, looking at this it looks
like two of the housing, the footprints, the clustered building structures, are on the south eastern
most property of the four that we’re talking about owned by Mr. Drake. All the rest of them to
the south, I can’t read my
ATTORNEY LAPPER- That’s correct
SUPERVISOR STEC- And you mentioned the thousand feet dead end, and again, what I’m
thinking here is let’s say that, because I am sympathetic to Mr. Drake’s situation, he’s a new
owner, the zoning changed, not long ago but it did change and he bought it thinking that he
wanted to develop it a certain way and for the Town to change. I personally feel a little better
that we’re talking about doing it after a short period of time rather a large period of time, but it
may not matter much to Mr. Drake, so I’m trying to work with here. Would it be feasible to
condense or compact those two northern most structures down to the south out of that one parcel
and then you may in fact be below the thousand foot threshold for the dead end for townhouse or
you might even be able to get a variance if it’s a little more than a thousand. I think the Board, or
some of us anyways on the Board, would prefer, you may disagree but I think some of us would
prefer whatever traffic is going to come off there to go onto Glenwood as opposed to introducing
an unknown amount of traffic that’s going to be entering onto Country Club Road just south of
Sweet Road. That stretch from Sweet Road to Quaker Road is already a cut through for a lot of
us, myself included to try to bypass a lot of the commercial congestion. We may feel better if
that was an option. It would allow us to rezone the property perhaps and not have the curb cut
onto Sweet Road while at the same time maybe preserving most if not all of the density that you
are talking about. Again, not wanting to get into detailed site plan now
ATTORNEY LAPPER- Like usual Dan, you covered a couple of concepts, one question, so first
in terms of the location, the area where those eight units are shown on the area that we are
talking about tonight is upland and the meadow that is on the adjacent Wiswall property has
some wetland areas and that’s why those areas were avoided. So that’s the appropriate place to
put those units because of the soil conditions. In terms of the connection, I think you could make
the argument that Glenwood is more congested in some ways than Country Club and where that
connector is shown at that radius of the curve it’s got good visibility north and south on Country
Club. So this is not a huge development in terms of density. It’s not like somebody would cut
through this neighborhood to avoid going up Country Club which would be easier.
SUPERVISOR STEC- This is thirty six units? How many units?
ATTORNEY LAPPER- Thirty six is what we’re showing
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- For fire protection I’d have a much more comfort zone of saying
there’s two ways to get in and out of here
SUPERVISOR STEC- That’s true too. I agree, that is a true statement
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- John, you feel that you can mitigate where this road comes out to
get on Country Club Road there’s some wetlands there and obviously you’re putting some
culverts in
ATTORNEY LAPPER- Yes
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- That’s going to be something you’ll have to deal with DEC I
presume
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ATTORNEY LAPPER- There are a couple of crossing that require culverts but for the most part
the wetlands are being avoided, very minimal impact
SUPERVISOR STEC- John or I probably shouldn’t ask you for legal advice, I’ll through this out
to both you and our Attorney, Bob Hafner; the northern parcel that Mr. Drake owns currently as
suggested there would be no units built on that and really the only thing that would be running
over that would be the access road. My question is, could we, if they wanted to develop it as that
and let’s say that we left that one south eastern parcel with the two structures on it as office, but
we changed the zoning for the northern parcel back to MDR does that present an issue as far as
can you have an access road over the MDR with no buildings on it? You weren’t prepared for
this question but
ATTORNEY HAFNER- I wasn’t prepared
SUPERVISOR STEC- John might have a
COUNCILMAN BREWER- can’t you put a road in any zone
SUPERVISOR STEC- Well, that’s what I mean, could you put a road, if we changed that
northern one back
COUNCILMAN BREWER- There’s roads in every zone in the Town so I don’t know why you
couldn’t
SUPERVISOR STEC- I mean they would dedicate the road
ATTORNEY HAFNER- I think what we’re controlling is other type of development
COUNCILMAN BREWER- Old retired Highway Superintendent
SUPERVISOR STEC- And you’re talking about dedicating this road to the Town, I mean you
want to make this a public road right, it’s not a private drive?
ATTORNEY LAPPER- Yes, now that would be the goal to dedicate
SUPERVISOR STEC- Would that work from your understanding of the Town Code is
ATTORNEY LAPPER- Well, I think that because it’s a residential zone it would be permissible
to have a road
SUPERVISOR STEC- Okay
ATTORNEY LAPPER- Two residential zones
SUPERVISOR STEC- You know what I’m saying, I don’t want
ATTORNEY LAPPER- The simple answer is that it won’t make that big a difference if we do
what you suggest because that lot is mostly wetlands, there’s not much that can be, it’s really
there for the access road, so in terms of a compromise we’d rather that it stayed zone the way it
is now but it wouldn’t hurt the development
SUPERVISOR STEC- And I’m just spit balling here, the other Town Board Members may
prefer to go all or none or they may like the suggested compromise. The suggested compromise
doesn’t change the fact that we’re talking about adding thirty six units there, the residents that
are going to be concerned, they don’t care what color the zoning map is they care that there is a
road there now with thirty six units on it. I would suggest that thirty six units isn’t the end of the
world as far as an intensity of development but from a cumulative, and you’re familiar with the
zoning issues the Town has gone through over the years John, cumulatively thirty six here,
eighteen there, fourteen there and before you know it you’ve got people screaming.
ATTORNEY LAPPER- But, again Dan this is the area closest to Quaker Road, it’s a good
location for townhouse development
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SUPERVISOR STEC- Would this be sewer then?
ATTORNEY LAPPER- Yes, the goal would be to, right now Tom’s property doesn’t have
access to the sewer but that’s the reason to acquire the Wiswall property to be able to bring the
sewer in
COUNCILMAN BREWER- Did you acquire that piece of property or is in contract
ATTORNEY LAPPER- We’re in discussions with the trust
COUNCILMAN BREWER- So, if you don’t do that than this goes away
SUPERVISOR STEC- But whatever the zoning is it’s available
ATTORNEY LAPPER- Well, it would have to come in from Country Club, then it would have
no choice but to come in from Country Club
COUNCILMAN BREWER- Right
ATTORNEY LAPPER- But this is a better plan
SUPERVISOR STEC- Well, and not only, but you would also lose density right because you
wouldn’t have the property
ATTORNEY LAPPER- Right, but the density would be based upon
SUPERVISOR STEC- The volume, you wouldn’t have the number units because you wouldn’t
own the southern portion
ATTORNEY LAPPER- The most important piece is what you’d asked about Dan, the parcel on
the east side of Tom’s property where it doesn’t include the wetlands, that’s where the density
so, but to go to a two acre zone if it didn’t have sewer would be a terrible thing. He wouldn’t be
able to develop anything; he wouldn’t even be able to justify the cost of the road
COUNCILMAN BREWER- How long is the road?
ATTORNEY LAPPER- About thirteen hundred feet
SUPERVISOR STEC- The whole length from Country Club to
ATTORNEY LAPPER- No, no to get it into this part of, to get it into
COUNCILMAN BREWER- Total how long is the road?
ATTORNEY LAPPER- Um, probably about three thousand
COUNCILMAN BREWER- This is an expensive road
ATTORNEY LAPPER- Yes, it is an expensive road, and that’s why he needs
COUNCILMAN BREWER- Four hundred thousand dollars for a road
ATTORNEY LAPPER- He needs some density to justify that
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- Plus the infrastructure of sewer and water
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- It’s not a road, it a driveway
COUNCILMAN BREWER- It’s going to be a road John
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SUPERVISOR STEC- I asked him, you said you are going to build this to Town specs and
dedicate it to the Town
ATTORNEY LAPPER- That would be
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- Well, the first thing is, I was told by a highway engineer that the
base that was laid down, that rock and everything would not meet Town standards
ATTORNEY LAPPER- Some work was done by
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- So the base of that driveway that’s in there automatically
ATTORNEY LAPPER- That was done by the predecessor entitle
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- I know
ATTORNEY LAPPER- So if that has to be redone, it has to be redone; I mean if you are
building something to Town specs it has to be built to Town specs, there’s no argument about
that
SUPERVISOR STEC- So you know going in that that may not be useable, you may have to
spend money on rework
ATTORNEY LAPPER- Yes
SUPERVISOR STEC- Did the Board follow my suggestion to consider of these four if you
wanted to rezone the three to the west and not change the zoning of the one to the southeast that
would accommodate what they’re suggesting
COUNCILMAN BREWER- It doesn’t really make any difference because he’s not going to be
able to do anything on it anyway
SUPERVISOR STEC- Today but you never know what the next property owner comes in and
puts together and pulls
COUNCILMAN BREWER- If he does this project Dan the roads there; I mean we put
restrictions on it, how can he do anything
SUPERVISOR STEC- That’s fine, and like I said the Board may or may not like the suggestion I
just throw it out there as something to consider
ATTORNEY LAPPER- Preference would be to keep it the way it is and let this project go to the
Planning Board
COUNCILMAN BREWER- I mean the road is going to take up his buildable space so he’s not
really going to be able to build anything there anyway. I mean who knows what happens in the
future
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- I think we’re getting too involved in the planning process
SUPERVISOR STEC- Yea, well I agree
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- The question is do we rezone it or not rezone it and how long the
road is, it’s going through a wetland, you compromised the point that said you know we can’t do
much with land anyway except put a road in, do we want to see the rest of that development,
thirty six units and rezone that parcel including the Wiswall property and I would presume, if
you are in contract or trying to be into contract with them want to see it so that this development
can happen
ATTORNEY LAPPER- Their attorney had actually said he was going to be sending a letter in to
the Town Board for the public hearing supporting keeping it the way it is. I just want to say one
more thing, just because of the fact that it doesn’t have sewer now, if you rezoned it and
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therefore Tom didn’t buy the Wiswall property, two acre per single family dwelling unit there’d
be very little he could do with this property. It really would not have a value because of the cost
of getting through the wetland area to the developable property
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- I mean I’m one of probably one of the few Board Members who
felt that we did it one way three months ago and we’re changing it back and it didn’t make much
sense to me in terms of us being good planners. We have a lot of good guys on this Board that
say they’re good planners
ATTORNEY LAPPER- That’s why we wanted to come in with a plan that we hoped you could
support as good planning
SUPERVISOR STEC- Did you say they are or they are
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- Yea
SUPERVISOR STEC- We’re better than most in the area I would suggest
ATTORNEY LAPPER- I’m going to leave a copy of this concept plan
SUPERVISOR STEC- That’s fine
ATTORNEY LAPPER- So that if any of the neighbors come up to speak they can see
SUPERVISOR STEC- Oh sure, they can see it, that’s not a bad idea
ATTORNEY LAPPER- But, I’d also ask if I could have a minute
SUPERVISOR STEC- Might want to give Attorney Borgos, who contributes to the traffic that
you mentioned on Glenwood, significantly
ATTORNEY LAPPER- I just ask that after the neighbors speak if I could have a minute if
there’s anything I need to rebut or address
SUPERVISOR STEC- It’s a public hearing; you get more than one bite at the apple at a public
hearing
ATTORNEY LAPPER- Thank you
SUPERVISOR STEC- All right, thank you. Mr. Borgos. Hello Mr. Borgos
ATTORNEY, MICHAEL BORGOS- Good evening again, Michael Borgos, here this time on
behalf of the Westward Homeowners Association. I must say that off the top that we’re a little
bit surprised to be hearing of a plan. We came with the understanding that the Board was moving
ahead with the decision to go back to the original zoning
SUPERVISOR STEC- Well, we’re going to take public comment and then make our decision.
But, last time, four weeks ago we did suggest, I would have preferred to seen it sooner than
today, but we did ask
ATTORNEY BORGOS- Well, that’s my point exactly, we didn’t have an opportunity to review
the plan
SUPERVISOR STEC- Sure, with your client
ATTORNEY BORGOS- Just a few quick comments from what I’ve heard, our concerns as an
Association really are traffic related as well as the impact on the water table in that
neighborhood. There’s already significant problems as Mr. Lapper alluded to on the Wiswall
property to the west of the Homeowners Association. We have photographs of standing water in
the springtime, it’s very common. We think that any development on the parcels discussed will
exacerbate that problem and that needs to be studied. Obviously, that’s a Planning Board issue
but those are the type of things that you do consider in the normal course of considering a zone
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change. This is a very unusual situation, and I think you’ve all eluded to that fact, I would much
prefer seeing the Board go through with the plan to go back to what it was and if the applicant
has a meritorious argument for a zone change we can precede in a normal course because I know
there are a lot of people who would like to come and speak but didn’t expect that we would be
into the nity grity of some plan that was presented on the very evening of the public hearing. I
just think that doesn’t give everybody proper amount of time
SUPERVISOR STEC- We’re a pretty thorough and open government here, we take all the
comment that people want to through at us.
ATTORNEY BORGOS- In addition to the water issue, I think that this was previously permitted
for a single family residents when Mr. Karanikas owned it as the predecessor in title; and that’s
certainly what everyone was expecting to be built there. I know there was a change in
circumstance and change in ownership, but again the proper application would be to go through
the rezone process. With regards to the Wiswall negotiations, I’d like to hear from Mr. Lapper as
to whether he’d be seeking a deed to the entire Wiswall property or if he’s only seeking an
easement for access out to Glenwood because that would be a significant issue. If there’s
remaining property there and all that’s going to be utilized is an access point that would allow for
future development on that Wiswall property potentially, which would affect, I think, the
determination of the utilization of this rear parcel, is it being boot strapped essentially
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- Mike, it looks like all of the buildings are on the Wiswall property
COUNCILAN BREWER- Right
ATTORNEY BORGOS- Yea
SUPERVISOR STEC- I was going to say, it looks like if we went through with the rezoning as
advertised tonight that we’re having the public hearing on, the remaining property that is, will
continue to be zoned office, seven out of the nine structures are, could still feasibly be built
ATTORNEY BORGOS- Well, this is where I’m getting at, is it contingent upon obtaining the
Wiswall property or are you going to do the … zoning alone as it were without that component. I
would want to see that it be contingent
SUPERVISOR STEC – The Wiswall property is already zoned office
ATTORNEY BORGOS- That is, but the other parcel that we’re discussing
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- Well, you’re basically saying there’s nothing and it’s true, nothing
assuring or guaranteeing that this is the project
ATTORNEY BORGOS- Exactly
SUPERVISOR STEC- That this happens, that’s right, I agree
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- I mean it’s entirely possible that if it gets resold or even this
owner, comes together with a little bit more, a lot more aggressive plan. I mean it’s entirely
possible
SUPERVISOR STEC- That’s right, another developer could, for some reason whatever reason,
six months from now could be a different developer, different project
COUNCILMAN BREWER- Bob, answer me if I’m, I think I’m right in saying can we condition
the rezoning on this?
ATTORNEY HAFNER- On the tentative plan that hasn’t even gone to the Planning Board?
COUNCILMAN BREWER- Well, can we condition the rezoning on a parcel with a limit of
units on it?
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- Well
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COUNCILMAN BREWER- Let him answer my question first
ATTORNEY HAFNER- You, I mean when you’re rezoning you’re rezoning it through a
different
COUNCILMAN BREWER- To the maximum
ATTORNEY HAFNER- And that’s you’re zoning classification
COUNCILMAN BREWER- But, I thought we rezoned a property with conditions
ATTORNEY HAFNER- If you want to create a different zoning classification than you can go
through the process to do that and call it that
COUNCILMAN BREWER- No, I understand
ATTORNEY BORGOS- And I think that points to the problem of rushing to judgment … on a
specific proposed project that may not be a project. Those are significant issues to consider
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- And there’s a lot of big ifs about whether they would be able to
secure these other parcels
ATTORNEY BORGOS- Exactly. I think, if I understood you correctly, Mr. Stec, there was a
discussion about trying to have a connector to Bay Road
SUPERVISOR STEC- I threw that out as a possible suggestion, like I said I think the traffic onto
Bay Road would be more appropriate or more welcomed than traffic onto Country Club. It may
not be as significant with thirty six units, most of which are closer to Glenwood than Country
Club. It may not be that big of a deal but I would think going out to Bay Road, and that way in
keeping everything in the office zone as opposed to things that are potentially better suited in the
MDR zone
ATTORNEY BORGOS- I think that in the last several years staff has had discussions regarding
that because there is certainly a need to alleviate some of the congestion. There’s been discussion
at times of extending Walker Lane but there’s no real easy way to connect to Country Club.
There is some available property just to the west and to the north but the terminus onto Country
Club Road is very close to the entrance to the Twicwood neighborhood and that presents traffic
hazards and there’s a little bit of an elevation change there as well. If there was a way to connect
over through this property, that might be something that would be worth discussing as long as it
doesn’t affect the density and the impact with the water on this property and the Homeowners
Association, which is a neighbor. But, the influx of traffic that we’ve seen on Glenwood Avenue
just in the past five years even with the ACC traffic it’s really very noticeable. It’s something
that if you haven’t been out there during those peak times you wouldn’t really appreciate it.
Many of you though would recall before the stop sign went in at the corner on Glenwood where
Sprinkles is now and the bike trail cross, that used to be a very easy traffic corridor to go through
without much need for a stop sign but now quite often that stop sign is backed up eight or ten
cars deep. When you add in the traffic at the Animal Hospital, the O’Connor’s place with the
ACC traffic it can be very, very busy through there. Any other traffic entering or exiting is going
to have a significant impact
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- I think Mike, right now on your road, Glenwood, with the closing
of the Tennis and the gym there’s been a minimal amount, I mean a lot of traffic has been
eliminated there but I’m not sure what Schermerhorn is going to do to that building. It may be an
office complex someday, I don’t know what his plans are but I don’t think he’s ever submitted
them so it’s back on the market. That will have an impact I’m sure on Glenwood
ATTORNEY BORGOS- That’s why I’m looking at it from a planning perspective that’s already
permitted, it’s a large parking lot, you have to anticipate it will have additional traffic in the
years to come and that’s what concerns us. So those are our concerns, thank you for hearing me.
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SUPERVISOR STEC- All right, thank you. Is there anyone else that would like to comment on
this public hearing this evening?
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- Mike, you’re group would like to see it go to office?
SUPERVISOR STEC- They’d like to see us follow through with the rezonings as proposed
ATTORNEY BORGOS- That’s correct, follow through with what you proposed
SUPERVISOR STEC- Change them back to MDR
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- Change it back to MDR
SUPERVISOR STEC- He thinks that the good planning was the way we had it the first time
before we changed
ATTORNEY BORGOS- It doesn’t happen often, but I agree with what you’d planned
SUPERVISOR STEC- Originally
ATTORNEY BORGOS- Well, yes, correct, and not any of the discussions to modify that plan
tonight. If indeed it is meritorious to go through with the rezoning in the future let that play out
as it normally would. That’s what we ask for, thank you.
SUPERVISOR STEC- Is there anyone else that would like to address the Board on this public
hearing this evening? Luise
LUISE CRAIGE-SHERMAN- 70 Country Club Road. I apologize, I’m not very familiar with
Queensbury zoning, having only lived on Country Club Road for the last year and a half
SUPERVISOR STEC- It’s very off the shelf, very hum drum
MRS. CRAIGE-SHERMAN- Well, this rezoning has prompted us to come a little bit earlier than
we originally had planned to but looking at what that density is and yes thirty six units, which to
me says seventy two cars, because even people who are in their eighty and nineties now often
maintain their cars. If it’s a senior couple they may very well still have those two cars. To me
that’s seventy two cars plus any type of guests, plus any type of vehicles that are coming for
deliveries or friends or relatives visiting, that type of thing. Country Club Road since we moved
there, we bought what we thought was a country house, a farmhouse and come to find out we’re
on a race course. I think in the last probably ten years in talking to our neighbors about this quite
a bit with the advent of the bike trail and the increase user ship of that the amount of road
frontage that is used for the bike trail, which has a very narrow, and we’re talking maybe three
feet of bike path in some cases. Just since we’ve been there, as I said a little less than two years,
we’ve seen four or five accidents between Round Pond Road and Sweet Road. I understand a
young boy lost his life on Country Club Road some twenty years ago, riding his bike to his
house, which was on Country Club Road. It appears there’s a lot more new houses there that
have been built and certainly the access which was just mentioned about ACC, again my
neighbors have said who have lived there in some cases thirty and forty years, have said that with
the advent and the growth of the College that traffic has considerably increased as well as the
redevelopment of the Wal-Mart Plaza has increased traffic. As you said, Supervisor Stec, you’re
guilty as using that as a cut through as we are
SUPERVISOR STEC- Well, it’s a public road, it’s legal but the neighbors won’t love it but it is
legal
MRS. CRAIGE-SHERMAN- I know, absolutely. The intersection where Woodvale comes into
Country Club Road, I’m not quite sure, I apologize if anyone here approved that but the angle of
which that road intersects is difficult at best. Depending what type of vehicle you’re driving
sometimes it’s a total blind spot, and I’ve seen so many people turn into the bike trail thinking
that was the road and then they have to back back out onto the road to get into Woodvale. I
would make a suggestion that I understand that length of that one property would make an access
road; I would love to see it go out onto Bay Road. I think that’s an excellent suggestion but if it
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had to go onto Country Club Road, currently the parcel that sits on the southeast corner of Sweet
Road and Country Club Road, which backs up to the bike trail, it’s a very wet, I would venture to
guess unbuildable for most things, that even if you could bring Sweet Road, if somehow you
could take that corner and realign Sweet Road to make an intersection there with a traffic light
and start slowing down the traffic on Country Club Road, have this development, in the worst
case scenario, have this development come straight out and be directly opposite Sweet Road, put
a traffic light and start slowing down the traffic on Country Club Road. I’m planning on getting a
petition together of landowners, property owners on Country Club Road; we’ve wanted to do it
for about the last year but some of you know I’ve been a little busy, looking to reduce the speed
limit on that road. Currently, forty-five miles an hour is in league with the fastest roads in all of
Queensbury. There are parts of Quaker Road that are actually less speed limit posted
SUPERVISOR STEC- Just as an aside, having eleven years of experience dealing with people
asking about lower speed limits, you’d be amazed at how difficult it is to get a speed limit
lowered
MRS. CRAIGE-SHERMAN- I know, I know, I’ve already talked to the Sheriff and to Glens
Falls
SUPERVISOR STEC- It has to be approved by New York State DOT
MRS. CRAIGE-SHERMAN- Well, it’s a county road though
SUPERVISOR STEC- It doesn’t matter, even on a town road it has to be approved by New York
State DOT and they are extremely reluctant
MRS. CRAIGE- SHERMAN- I know, if everybody goes fifty-five they’ll say that’s safe because
they haven’t had a zillion accidents, but I can tell you when I see what I call the ducklings, the
mother, the father and the three little kids behind them going up that bike trail on a three foot
path and people going fifty-five and sixty miles an hour whizzing by them, you’ve got two bike
crossings not just one, but two. The one by our house is almost blind as you’re coming from the
south heading north. It’s a dangerous situation and I’m concerned about adding yet more density
onto the road and making it even more difficult situation. Thank you
SUPERVISOR STEC- All right, thank you. Is there anyone else that would like to address the
Town Board on this public hearing? Any other discussion from Town Board? No I haven’t heard
anyone comment on the rezoning from MDR to Office on the three parcels down there on
Glenwood right there, which essentially are the animal hospital. I imagine that the Board and the
public are generally fine with that. I think any discussion that the Town Board needs to ought to
really focus on the four properties that are currently office that we’re contemplating rezoning
back to MDR. I had asked Bob previously and we talked about this at the Town Board Meeting
four weeks ago that if we in fact want to the Town Board is free to, of the seven properties that
have been advertised and the public hearing has been conducted on, we can drop any or all of
them. We could use four or five, so we could use four or five, so we have some flexibility as to
these seven properties which ones we may or may not want to include in the rezoning. I just put
that out there so that the Board, as we start formulating if we want to have a resolution tonight, I
imagine that we’re going to want follow through at least on those three properties that no one is
talking about allowing the animal hospital to go to office
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- What can be built in an MDR, just so everybody knows
SUPERVISOR STEC- Off the top of my head, residential
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- Well, I can look up the table if that tables in my code book
COUNCILMAN BREWER- You had to say that didn’t you
SUPERVISOR STEC- You know, we had it all resolved. Go ahead John, did you want to
comment about something Mr. Borgos said or asked about?
ATTORNEY LAPPER- Well, the issue is whether the density will permit townhouses and in
MDR you can have single family on a two acre lot. Because Tom’s lot doesn’t have sewer so if
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you were going to cluster it to do townhouses you would be doing the math and you’d take off
the wetland and you’re not going to have much that can go on that property. So, if wouldn’t
justify the cost of putting the road in and doing a townhouse development. I’m arguing that a
townhouse development mirrors what’s next door at Westwood, the thirty six units is a minor
number for traffic generation compared to the number of acres here and to respond to what Mike
said this was designed to avoid the wet areas. Obviously, it has to comply with DEC and Town
requirements. There’s plenty of land here to be able to deal with the wet areas and do a modest
size townhouse development, which would just be good for the Town, appropriate use for this
property near the travel corridors and shopping and the sewer line of course. I don’t see that there
is any reason why you have to do anything to Tom’s property tonight. I mean what we’re trying,
we came in with a plan to show you that this could be modestly developed for the Town
COUNCILMAN BREWER- How many units are there in Westbrook?
COUNCILMAN METIVIER- Westwood has forty eight
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- There’s forty eight but John you would almost develop that the
way he’s pictured it, as Dan has suggested with what we’re proposing to do because you would
have your access drive
ATTORNEY LAPPER- But if you rezone that western, excuse me eastern piece where we’re
showing the eight units; I mean the cost of this road is so expensive that you just can’t justify
putting in three thousand feet of road unless you get some density and we’re not even showing
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- Well, that’s what I mean you’ve got the same density
SUPERVISOR STEC- You wouldn’t have to do the whole road you could do about half the road
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- You wouldn’t have to change… you could move you’re density
down into the
SUPERVISOR STEC- You could almost have the dead end or a cul-de-sac
ATTORNEY LAPPER- You’re also bringing in sewer, it’s not just, I mean to make this feasible
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- I mean you’re talking the same density John
ATTORNEY LAPPER- No, those eight units are really important. I mean in terms of the
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- Well, I think you’re thinking more than eight units because by the
time you got done with the road and by the time you got done with sewer thirty six units I don’t
think is going to pay for it
ATTORNEY LAPPER- Well, even if we could fit another building, this is concept; this was
done in a few weeks
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- I know it’s concept that’s part of the problem
ATTORNEY LAPPER- So maybe it’s forty, but whatever it is it’s still an appropriate use, it’s
less dense by a lot than Westwood, if you look at Westwood. I used the same footprints on the
map just to show a compatible use
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- I appreciate the effort buy I’m still not convinced. I like the
proposal and the resolution we have right here
ATTORNEY LAPPER- If it goes to two acre, single family two acre there’s just
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- Given the caring capacity of the land, giving the limits that you’ve
admitted, the limits of water, the limits of wetland, the limits of rock out beds, the limits of
traffic, all those combined say that this should not be a high density area
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ATTORNEY LAPPER- And that’s why we’re only talking about a few units. I would say just
give us some time to get this under contract where we’re close. There’s just no reason to take
away the value of Tom’s property and leave him high and dry. He’s trying to do something that
makes sense
SUPERVISOR STEC- You do agree though that an option that is available is what Mr. Borgos
said before that. Two, three, six months from now you can always come with an application to
rezone and we could do it then
ATTORNEY LAPPER- There’s no reason for you do anything tonight. The idea to rezone it to
make it restrictive and then have us come back with a whole application to try and fix it again, I
mean time and money, he’s approached the Wiswall’s they’ve got a piece of property their trying
to sell, he’s trying to buy. I think we’ll get that together
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- John, I agree with your argument only on a different basis. To put
a thirty five hundred foot roadway, which approximately that’s what it is, run the sewer lines in,
water and utilities and only have thirty six units it just doesn’t seem like that would be a very
good business decision to make. I’m willing to say this is conceptual; you really need a chance to
try and show of what it can be. This is really a tough decision in terms of a business decision.
Thirty six units, I don’t know how you can make any money at that?
ATTORNEY LAPPER- And it may be forty, we don’t know yet but it’s not going to be a lot
more than thirty six
COUNCILMAN METIVIER- I think that’s the problem though is that we’re almost welcoming
the fact that his project could almost be a failure if you can’t get forty, forty two, forty four units
in; and at that point you know we’ve invited it. I am concerned; I was just doing a little bit of
math myself, thinking how can you possible make any money on this thirty six unit development
with the infrastructure, the price of the land. You’ll be pricing your houses so high that nobody
will be able to afford them. It is a concern; to me it’s a concern
ATTORNEY LAPPER- Well, Tom won’t go through with it if it doesn’t make financial sense
but we were not even given the notice so we found out that this was on the agenda last month
and quickly had to put something together. He acquired the one piece, we’ve been talking to the
neighbor, I think we’ll get that under contract quickly but I guess just let him try to do something
that makes sense. Certainly townhouse development makes more sense than single family in that
area where you’d be doing one acre lots
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- To me that makes sense
COUNCILMAN BREWER- What
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- One acre, two acre lots
ATTORNEY LAPPER- You’re right behind Westwood, for two acre lots it’s kind of a strange
place for an estate lot. I would ask you on Tom’s behalf to just leave it alone and promise you
that we’ll come in with an appropriate development for this site that’s not too dense that looks
good
COUNCILMAN METIVIER- Can we do that for the time being?
SUPERVISOR STEC- We could, I’m not sure I agree with Mr. Lapper here, but because we
could always entertain a rezoning application when we do have a lot more known quantities and
fewer variables. That would give us more control
COUNCILMAN METIVIER- Well, I think if we had some kind of control over it, where we’re
not, I’m worried about this, I really, really am worried about this
SUPERVISOR STEC- I would suggest if you’re worried about, the way that I think that you are,
than the safe play would be to follow through with the rezoning because that gives us more
control to make a better decision later.
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ATTORNEY LAPPER- Than you know that he can’t make any money if you rezone it to two
acre lots than the project is dead
COUNCILMAN METIVIER- But we also said to you if you brought something to us that was
more definitive with
ATTORNEY LAPPER- Well, this is the idea, I mean this is what it would be we just have to do
the engineering
COUNCILMAN METIVIER- Yea but I still, I’m not convinced that thirty six is the magic
number here
ATTORNEY LAPPER- Let’s say it’s forty, but to ask him to go do all the detailed engineering,
soil tests when it’s not even zoned right, I don’t know if he goes forward and buys the property
next door
COUNCILMAN METIVIER- I understand, I know, I understand, I know, I know
SUPERVISOR STEC- Is there anyone else that would like to comment before I close the public
hearing
DEPUTY CLERK, MELLON- I do have a letter, I have a letter from Matthew Fuller, dated
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today, September 13. It says:
Dear Supervisor Stec and Town Board Members:
I understand that the Town Board has on its agenda tonight further consideration of a “re-re-
zoning” of property along or near Country Club Road in the Town. In reviewing the public
hearing info, I see that this generally includes Dr. O’Connor’s properties which are proposed to
be brought into the Office zone, and which I think makes sense from a planning perspective.
However, I also see that the Board is moving forward with essentially “undoing” the changes
that applied to some properties this past spring. I would ask the Town Board to decline this
invitation.
I am unaware how the current changes arose. Last month, the Town Board removed from
consideration those parcels contained in the Wiswall estates, and I thank the Board for that. The
Board should do the same with the parcels currently targeted to move back to the MDR zone.
Aside from the potential Constitutional and property rights issues associated with flipping
property from zone to zone, I think the proposed changes to the parcels identified as being along
Country Club Road, but actually located off Country Club Road, makes bad planning sense. This
area of the Town has water, sewer, electric and gas, higher traffic patterns, and higher density in
general. In short, this area of the Town has been designed, intentionally or not, to support density
such as that contained in the neighboring Westwood development. Moving the properties to the
North of the Wiswall property back to the MDR zone would prevent such development. I urge
the Town Board to take a hard look at the implications of the proposed change, and to deny the
invitation to reverse the zoning changes instituted just this past spring. Thank you.
Sincerely,
Matthew F. Fuller
SUPERVISOR STEC- Okay, any other comment? All right then, again, what I suggested to the
Board is we have seven parcels. We could either follow through with the rezoning of all seven of
them as the resolution is written tonight or if the majority of the Board would prefer to make
some changes, I would presume in the four parcels to the north, they could do that. We would
also need to go through SEQRA. So, what I’ll do is I will close the public hearing and I guess I
entertain a little bit more discussion so that we can determine what the consensus of the Board
might be as far as do we want to move forward with the rezoning as advertised or if we want to
eliminated some of the parcels from consideration. Once we have a consensus idea there we’ll go
through the SEQRA and the resolution. I’ll let John speak himself
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- I prefer to keep the resolution just as it is
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SUPERVISOR STEC- I do as well. Other Board Members?
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- Given the conceptual-ness of this plan and knowing that it might
be forty, it might be forty four. I just assume keep it the way it is. If Mr. Drake wants to come in
SUPERVISOR STEC- With an application
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- With an application that would be his prerogative but
SUPERVISOR STEC- I think that’s reasonable, it may certainly not be as convenient for the
applicant as Mr. Lapper has pointed out and I think accurately so. But I agree, I think it gives the
Town a little more control in eliminating some of the unknowns that we’ve talked about here
tonight. Tony or Tim do you have strong feelings about it?
COUNCILMAN BREWER- I don’t have a strong feeling either way Dan. I sympathize with Mr.
Lapper’s client but at the same time I don’t know if we can rezone a piece of property on a
project we don’t know what’s going to be
SUPERVISOR STEC- Tony, do you have anything? Right now I’m hearing the consensus is
move forward
COUNCILMAN METIVIER- I have nothing more to add. I don’t know if I have an answer or
not
COUNCILMAN BREWER- I think if he comes back with a plan that has merit we can entertain
it
SUPERVISOR STEC- We can have another public hearing, there’s certainly nothing wrong with
doing that. All right, presuming that the Board wants to follow through with the resolution as
written, Bob do you want to walk us through SEQRA please
PART 2- SEQRA FORM LONG FORM
1.Will the Proposed action result in any physical change to the project site? NO
2.Will there be an effect to any unique or unusual land forms found on the site? (i.e., cliffs,
dunes, geological, formations, etc.) NO
3.Will the proposed action affect any water body designated as protected? (under Articles
12, 24, 25 of the Environmental Conservation Law, ECL) NO
4.Will proposed action affect any non-protected existing or new body of water? NO
5.Will proposed action affect surface or groundwater quality or quantity? NO
6.Will proposed action alter drainage flow or patterns, or surface water runoff? NO
7.Will proposed action affect air quality? NO
8.Will proposed action affect any threatened or endangered species? NO
9.Will proposed action substantially affect non-threatened or non-endangered species? NO
10.Will the proposed action affect agricultural land resources? NO
11. Will Proposed Action affect aesthetic resources? NO
12.Will proposed action impact any site or structure of historic, prehistoric or
paleontological importance? NO
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13.Will proposed action affect the quantity or quality of existing or future open spaces or
recreational opportunities? NO
14.Will proposed action impact he exceptional or unique characteristics of a critical
environmental area (CEA) established pursuant to subdivision 6 NYCRR 617.14(g)? NO
15.Will there be an effect to existing transportation systems? NO
16.Will proposed action affect the community’s sources of fuel or energy supply? NO
17.Will there be objectionable odors, noise, or vibration as a result of the proposed action?
NO
18.Will proposed action affect public health and safety? NO
19.Will proposed action affect the character of the existing community? NO
20.Is there, or is there likely to be, public controversy related to potential adverse
environmental impacts? NO
ATTORNEY HAFNER- You’ve answered no to all of the questions so I think the resolution has
that there will be a negative declaration and that it will authorize you to sign Dan
SUPERVISOR STEC- It does, it does, it authorizes us to file a SEQRA negative declaration.
Okay so we have a resolution with a negative SEQRA declaration to rezone the seven parcels
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- I’ll move it
SUPERVISOR STEC- Moved by Councilman Strough
COUNCILMAN BREWER- I’ll second it
SUPERVISOR STEC- Seconded by Councilman Brewer, any further discussion? Hearing none
let’s go ahead and vote
RESOLUTION ADOPTING SEQRA NEGATIVE DECLARATION
AND AMENDING ZONING LAW TO CHANGE CLASSIFICATION
OF PARCELS ON COUNTRY CLUB ROAD AND GLENWOOD
AVENUE AND ENACTING LOCAL LAW NO.: 10 OF 2010 TO
AMEND QUEENSBURY TOWN CODE CHAPTER 179 “ZONING”
RESOLUTION NO.: 304, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board wishes to consider adoption of Local Law No.:
10 of 2010 to amend Queensbury Town Code Chapter 179 by amending the official Town Zoning
Ordinance and Map to reflect the rezoning of:
1.four (4) parcels of property on Country Club Road from Office (O) to Moderate
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Density Residential (MDR), and
2.hree (3) parcels of property on Glenwood Avenue from Moderate Density
Residential (MDR) to Office (O), as presented at this meeting, and
WHEREAS, before the Town Board may amend, supplement, change, or modify its Zoning
Law and Map, it must hold a public hearing in accordance with the provisions of Town Law §265,
the Municipal Home Rule Law and the Town of Queensbury Zoning Laws, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board duly conducted a public hearing and heard all interested
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parties concerning the proposed rezoning on Monday, September 13, 2010, and
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WHEREAS, on or about August 11, 2010,the Warren County Planning Board considered
the proposed rezoning and determined that there would be no County impact, and
WHEREAS, as SEQRA Lead Agency, the Town Board has reviewed a Full Environmental
Assessment Form to analyze potential environmental impacts of the proposed rezoning, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board has considered the conditions and circumstances of the area
affected by the rezoning,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby determines that the proposed
rezoning will not have any significant adverse environmental impact and a SEQRA Negative
Declaration is made, and therefore authorizes and directs the Town Clerk and/or Senior Planner
and/or Town Counsel to file and publish a SEQRA Negative Declaration - Notice of Determination
of Non-Significance with respect to the rezoning, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby amends the Town of Queensbury Zoning Law
and Map to rezone the properties bearing Tax Map Parcel No.’s:
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296.15-1-18, 296.15-1-24, 296.15-1-25 and 296.19-1-12 located along Country Club
Road in the Town of Queensbury from Office (O) to Moderate Density Residential
(MDR); and
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296.19-1-15, 296.19-1-16, and 296.19-1-17 located along Glenwood Avenue in the Town
of Queensbury from Moderate Density Residential (MDR) to Office (O); and
BE IT FURTHER,
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RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby adopts Local Law No.: 10 of 2010 to amend the
Queensbury Town Code by amending the official Town Zoning Map to reflect such change of zone
as presented at this meeting, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the Queensbury Town
Clerk to file the Local Law and the official Town Zoning Map, as amended, with the New York
State Secretary of State in accordance with the provisions of the Municipal Home Rule Law and
acknowledges that the Local Law will take effect upon such filing, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the Queensbury Town
Clerk to send copies of this Resolution, Local Law and Zoning Map to the Town Planning Board,
Town Zoning Board of Appeals and Zoning Administrator in accordance with §179-15-080(D) of
the Town Zoning Law, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that this Resolution shall take effect immediately.
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Duly adopted this 13 day of September, 2010, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
LOCAL LAW NO.: 10 OF 2010
A LOCAL LAW TO AMEND CHAPTER 179 “ZONING” OF
QUEENSBURY TOWN CODE TO
AMEND OFFICIAL TOWN ZONING MAP
BE IT ENACTED BY THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF
QUEENSBURY AS FOLLOWS:
SECTION 1.
Queensbury Town Code Chapter 179, “Zoning,” is hereby amended by
amending the official Town Zoning Map to reflect a change of zone for four (4) parcels of property
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on Country Club Road from Office (O) to Moderate Density Residential (MDR) such properties
bearing Tax Map Parcel No.’s: 296.15-1-18, 296.15-1-24, 296.15-1-25 and 296.19-1-12.
SECTION 2.
Queensbury Town Code Chapter 179, “Zoning,” is hereby amended by
amending the official Town Zoning Map to reflect a change of zone for three (3) parcels of property
along Glenwood Avenue from Moderate Density Residential (MDR) to Office (O) such properties
bearing Tax Map Parcel No.’s: 296.19-1-15, 296.19-1-16, and 296.19-1-17.
SECTION 3.
The map appended to this Local Law is hereby adopted as the official Town
Zoning Map of the Town of Queensbury and supersedes the previously adopted Town Zoning Map.
SECTION 4.
The invalidity of any clause, sentence, paragraph or provision of this Local
Law shall not invalidate any other clause, sentence, paragraph or part thereof.
SECTION 5.
All Local Laws or ordinances or parts of Local Laws or ordinances in
conflict with any part of this Local Law are hereby repealed.
SECTION 6.
This Local Law shall take effect immediately upon filing in the Office of the
New York Secretary of State as provided in New York Municipal Home Rule Law §27.
PUBLIC HEARING AUTHORIZING CONSOLIDATION AGREEMENT AND
CONSOLIDATION OF CENTRAL QUEENSBURY QUAKER ROAD SEWER
DISTRICT AND HILAND PARK SANITARY SEWER DISTRICT
NOTICE SHOWN
PUBLICATION DATE: August 27, 2010
SUPERVISOR STEC- All right, I’ll ask our sewer manager, Mike Shaw to come up here.
Essentially the Town has been taking steps over the last couple of months to move us towards
having this public hearing this evening to essentially consolidate two sewer districts, the Central
Queensbury/Quaker Road Sewer District and the Hiland Park Sanitary Sewer District. Mike, I’ll
turn the floor over to you and let you hit any highlights that you think is worthy of covering here
before we take any other public comment
WASTEWATER DIRECTOR, MIKE SHAW- Okay, as Dan explained we’re proposing to
consolidate two districts, Central Queensbury/Quaker Road Sewer District and Hiland Park
Sewer District. There’s a map just on the left side of the Town Board that kind of shows those
two areas. If you see the tan area on the map that’s the Hiland Park Sewer District and the blue
area is the Central Queensbury/Quaker Road Sewer District. Both of these districts were
constructed about the same time, in the late eighties, and Hiland Park Sewer District has had two
extensions to it, Quaker Road Sewer District has had twelve extensions to it. The value of each
district according the GASB 34 reporting for last year was Central Queensbury/Quaker Road
Sewer District had eight and a half million dollars as valued at and Hiland Park was valued at
almost two million dollars. Each district currently has fund balance, fund balance in the Quaker
Road Sewer District as of 2009 was approximately two hundred thousand and the fund balance
in Hiland Park was approximately seventy five thousand dollars
COUNCILMAN BREWER- Seventy five
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WASTEWATER DIRECTOR, SHAW- As I explained both of these districts were constructed
in the late 1980’s. The Hiland Park Sewer District was constructed by developer Gary Bowen
and paid by the developer. Central Queensbury/Quaker Road Sewer District was developed by
the Town and paid for by the people of the district. Currently, neither district has funding or
bonding on them and both districts are currently paying the same O&M rate
SUPERVISOR STEC- All right, anything else you would like to add before I open the public
hearing Mike?
WASTEWATER DIRECTOR, SHAW- No
SUPERVISOR STEC- All right, I will open the public hearing, if there is anybody that would
like to comment on this public hearing regarding the consolidation of these two sewer districts, I
just ask that you raise your hand and we’ll call on you. Do Board Members have any questions
for Mike Shaw?
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- Mike, will the impact be different crosswise for either of the
districts?
WASTEWATER DIRECTOR, SHAW- The immediate impact we’ll see is of course
administratively combining two budgets, not doing two budgets at budget time, not creating
double purchase orders, double entries or payments of bills. Really the biggest benefit, I think, is
in the future; you’re spreading cost over a larger district. Both of these districts have similar
construction, one flows into the other. In the future, if they have repairs, spreading those repairs
over a wider base of people
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- But I mean either one of those will not, because of this
consolidation, will not see an increase in their rate
WASTERWATER DIRECTOR, SHAW- No, neither one of them will see an increase in their
rate because of the consolidation. As you’ll see on tonight’s agenda there is increases suggested
for the future for all districts to pay a portion of the treatment at the City of Glens Falls
SUPERVISOR STEC- When we know what it is
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- And you’ve done a good job of managing too because we do have
some reserve funds there for contingencies
WASTEWATER DIRECTOR, SHAW- We have, over the years too, done repairs and things,
each district has had its pump stations upgraded in the last five or six years. Both of them are in
reasonable operational condition
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- That’s the pump station on Meadowbrook and both on
Meadowbrook
WASTEWATER DIRECTOR, SHAW- Correct
SUPERVISOR STEC- All right, is there anyone from the public that would like to comment on
this public hearing? Seeing none I will close this public hearing and entertain a motion
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CONSOLIDATION AGREEMENT AND
CONSOLIDATION OF CENTRAL QUEENSBURY QUAKER ROAD
SEWER DISTRICT AND HILAND PARK SANITARY SEWER DISTRICT
RESOLUTION NO.: 305, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
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SECONDED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
WHEREAS, New York General Municipal Law Article 17-A authorizes water and sewer
districts to consolidate into combined districts if such combination “shall be conducive to the
public health, welfare, and convenience and be of special benefit to the lands of the district”; and
WHEREAS, the Central Queensbury Quaker Road Sewer District (“CQQRSD”) was
duly established by the Town Board and constructed in late 1980 to serve the business area of
Quaker Road, Aviation Road, Route 9 and Bay Road area and has added 12 District extensions
over the years, and
WHEREAS, the Hiland Park Sanitary Sewer District (“HPSSD”) was duly established by
the Queensbury Town Board and constructed in early 1990 by developer Gary Bowen to serve
the Hiland Park PUD and has added two district extensions, Adirondack Community College and
Willowbrook apartments, over the years, and
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board is the body responsible for the administration
of all its sewer districts, including the CQQRSD and the HPSSD, and
WHEREAS, the Town Wastewater Director has studied whether it would be to the
mutual benefit, and in the best interests of the customers each serves, to combine the CQQRSD
and the HPSSD into one District, and determined that such a combination would create greater
operating efficiencies, provide better service to the public each serves, and generate cost savings
by avoiding duplication in administrative services, and
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board is the governing entity for each of the Districts
(the local government entities), so the statutory requirement for a joint Resolution is hereby
ratified by a single Resolution by the Queensbury Town Board action on behalf of each District,
and
WHEREAS, New York General Municipal Law Article 17-A requires, by joint
Resolution, the local government entities to endorse a Consolidation Agreement to commence
proceedings to consolidate Districts; and
WHEREAS, Town Counsel and the Town Wastewater Director prepared a proposed
Consolidation Agreement and provided it to the Town Board for its review, and the Town Board,
by Resolution 265,2010, endorsed the Consolidation Agreement and set a public hearing on the
proposed Consolidation Agreement and consolidation of Sewer Districts, and
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WHEREAS, the Town Board duly held such public hearing on Monday, September 13,
2010 and the Town Board has considered the evidence given together with other information, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board wishes to consolidate the Sewer Districts in accordance with
New York General Municipal Law Article 17-A,
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NOW, THEREFORE, IT IS HEREBY
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby determines that:
1.Notice of the Public Hearing, including a summary of the Agreement and a
reference to the public place where it may be examined, was published and displayed on the Town’s
website not less than 10 or more than 20 days before the Public Hearing, as required by the New
York General Municipal Law and is otherwise sufficient;
2.All property and property owners within the consolidated areas are benefited;
3.It is in the public interest to consolidate the Central Queensbury Quaker Road
Sanitary Sewer District and the Hiland Park Sanitary Sewer District into one (1) District as
described in the preambles of this Resolution;
4.It is in the public interest to assess all expenses of the District, including all
extensions heretofore or hereafter established, as a charge against the entire area of the District as
consolidated; and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby approves, authorizes and establishes the
consolidation of the Central Queensbury Quaker Road Sanitary Sewer District and the Hiland Park
Sanitary Sewer District, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board approves the proposed Consolidation Agreement as final
and authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor to execute the Consolidation Agreement in the form
presented at this meeting, and the Town Supervisor, Wastewater Superintendent, Town Clerk and/or
Town Counsel to take all actions necessary to effectuate this Resolution, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that, in accordance with the Consolidation Agreement, the CQQRSD and
HPSD shall be consolidated into the Queensbury Consolidated Sanitary Sewer District as of
October 1, 2010.
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Duly adopted this 13 day of September, 2010, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough
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NOES: None
ABSENT: None
3.0 PRIVELEGE OF THE FLOOR (LIMIT- 4 MINUTES)
KEITH HENDRY- Spoke to the Board regarding the Pine View Cemetery. He is the owner of
eight lots in Pine View and has issues with people walking their dogs, and feeding the geese. He
has been in contact with the Cemetery Commissioner and the employees regarding this issue.
Explained that this is totally unacceptable, a cemetery is supposed to be a place people to go to
visit their loved ones that have gone before them.
JOHN SHAHAY AND JOHN HOGKINS, MEMBERS OF NORTH QUEENSBURY
VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY- Read a letter regarding John Salvador’s comments of the
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August 16 Board Meeting. They wanted to right some misconceptions that were said about the
Fire Company by Mr. Salvador.
PLINEY TUCKER- Questioned the Board regarding resolution 4.14. Where is that illegal
junkyard?
COUNCILMAN BREWER- Big Bay Road
MR. TUCKER- Spoke regarding an article in the Post Star concerning North Queensbury Fire
Company wanting to form their own district
SUPERVISOR STEC- This has been discussed off and on for the last several years. This is
something that we can take up at any time. There is a process to go through. As of right now, we
haven’t started anything.
PAUL NAYLOR- Spoke to the Board regarding resolution 4.1 concerning health insurance for
retired employees
SUPERVISOR STEC- Explained that right now a retiree is eligible if he retires at the age of fifty
five or older pursuant to the New York State and Local Retirement System with at least ten years
of service to the Town. What we’re proposing to add is a second eligibility or age fifty or older
eligible to receive pension from New York State Employee Retirement System and have at least
thirty years of service with the Town.
4.0 RESOLUTIONS
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AMENDMENT TO SECTION 701 OF
TOWN OF QUEENSBURY EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK TO CLARIFY
TERMS OF HEALTH INSURANCE FOR RETIRED EMPLOYEES
RESOLUTION NO.: 306, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury provides ongoing health insurance benefits for full-
time employees who retire from the Town of Queensbury who are 55 years of age or older, eligible
to receive a pension from the New York State and Local Retirement System and have at least ten
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(10) years of service with the Town, and allows a surviving spouse to receive such benefits for an
additional six (6) month period, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board wishes to amend its Employee Handbook such that the Town
will continue to provide group health insurance for any covered Town employee: 1) retiring at age
55 and older pursuant to the New York State and Local Retirement System with at least ten (10)
or 2) age fifty (50) or older, eligible to receive a pension from the
years of service to the Town,
New York Employees Retirement System (NYS ERS), and have at least thirty (30) years of
service with the Town,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby authorizes amendment of the Town
of Queensbury’s Employee Handbook Section 701 such that the first paragraph following the
subtitle “Health Insurance Retired Employees” shall read as follows:
“Health Insurance - Retired Employees
Full-time employees who retire from the Town of Queensbury may be eligible to receive a health
insurance benefit for themselves and their spouses. To be eligible for such coverage, the retiring
employee must be:
1.
age fifty-five (55) or older, eligible to receive a pension from the New York Employees
Retirement System (NYS ERS), and have at least ten (10) years of service with the
or
Town;
2. age fifty (50) or older, eligible to receive a pension from the New York Employees
Retirement System (NYS ERS), and have at least thirty (30) years of service with
the Town.
Such health insurance will continue until the death of such retired employee as long as the retiree
makes all required contributions.”
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor
and/or Town Budget Officer to sign any documentation and take any and all action necessary to
effectuate all terms of this Resolution, and
BE IT FURTHER,
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RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor to
distribute copies of this Resolution to all Town Departments and amend the Employee Handbook
accordingly.
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Duly adopted this 13 day of September, 2010 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION APPROVING RE-PURCHASE OF CEMETERY LOT IN
PINE VIEW CEMETERY FROM MARILYN BORDEAU
RESOLUTION NO.: 307, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury Cemetery Commission previously sold a cemetery
lot in the Pine View Cemetery to Marilyn Bordeau – Lot No.: 80-C, Algonquin Section, and
WHEREAS, Ms. Bordeau wishes to sell such lot back to the Cemetery Commission, and
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WHEREAS, by Memorandum dated August 20, 2010, the Cemetery Commission and
Cemetery Superintendent have recommended re-purchase of the lot and requests approval of the re-
purchase from the Town Board,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby approves of the Cemetery
Commission's re-purchase of a lot in the Pine View Cemetery from Marilyn Bordeau – Lot No.: 80-
C, Algonquin Section, for the amount of $183.33, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorizes and directs the Cemetery Superintendent to
arrange for the payment of such amount to Ms. Bordeau and properly account for the sales in the
Town’s books and records.
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Duly adopted this 13 day of September, 2010, by the following vote:
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AYES: Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Stec
NOES: None
ABSENT: Mr. Brewer
RESOLUTION APPROVING RE-PURCHASE OF CEMETERY LOT IN
PINE VIEW CEMETERY FROM THE ESTATE OF JOAN BURCH
RESOLUTION NO.: 308, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury Cemetery Commission previously sold a cemetery
lot in the Pine View Cemetery to Joan Burch – Lot No.: 84-A, Mohawk Section, and
WHEREAS, Ms. Burch recently died and Ms. Burch’s estate wishes to sell such lot back to
the Cemetery Commission, and
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WHEREAS, by Memorandum dated August 20, 2010, the Cemetery Commission and
Cemetery Superintendent have recommended re-purchase of the lot and requests approval of the re-
purchase from the Town Board,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby approves of the Cemetery
Commission's re-purchase of a lot in the Pine View Cemetery from the estate of Joan Burch – Lot
No.: 84-A, Mohawk Section, for the amount of $266.67, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorizes and directs the Cemetery Superintendent to
arrange for the payment of such amount to the “Estate of Joan Burch or Kyle Burch and Kylee
Burch-Lamb” and properly account for the sales in the Town’s books and records.
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Duly adopted this 13 day of September, 2010, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier
NOES: None
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ABSENT: Mr. Brewer
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AGREEMENT BETWEEN TOWN OF
QUEENSBURY AND THE FEEDER CANAL ALLIANCE
RESOLUTION NO.: 309, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
WHEREAS, by Resolution No.: 484,2007, the Queensbury Town Board provided for the
Town’s receipt of occupancy tax revenues from Warren County in accordance with the Local
Tourism Promotion and Convention Development Agreement (Agreement) entered into between
the Town and Warren County, and
WHEREAS, the Agreement provides that specific expenditure of the funds provided under
the Agreement are subject to further Resolution of the Queensbury Town Board, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board wishes to provide funding to the Feeder Canal Alliance in the
amount of $1,000 with occupancy tax revenues received from Warren County and accordingly enter
into an agreement with the Feeder Canal Alliance for the year 2010 for the preservation and
promotion of the Feeder Canal and the historic towpath trail, and
WHEREAS, a proposed agreement has been presented at this meeting,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby approves the Agreement between
the Town and the Feeder Canal Alliance substantially in the form presented at this meeting and
authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor to execute the Agreement, with funding for the
Agreement not exceeding the sum of $1,000 and to be provided by occupancy tax revenues the
Town receives from Warren County, to be paid for from Account No.: 050-6410-4412, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that such Agreement is expressly contingent upon the Town Budget Officer
confirming that the Town has unallocated occupancy tax funds available from Warren County.
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Duly adopted this 13 day of September, 2010, by the following vote:
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AYES: Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CLOSURE OF BANK ACCOUNT
CREATED IN CONJUNCTION WITH BOND #3, PUBLIC
IMPROVEMENT BOND 1976 FOR WATER DEPARTMENT
RESOLUTION NO.: 310, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board previously opened a bank account in
conjunction with Bond #3, Public Improvement Bond 1976 for the Water Department, and
WHEREAS, the Town’s Accountant has advised that the Bond has been paid in full and
therefore the bank account may be closed and remaining moneys transferred to the Water
Department to be used for paying debt, and
WHEREAS, the Town’s accounting records show that there is approximately $8,786.90
remaining in such bank account, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board wishes to close such bank account and transfer the
account’s remaining balance to the Water Department,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the Town
Accountant to close the bank account opened in conjunction with Bond #3, Public Improvement
Bond 1976 for the Water Department and transfer the remaining balance to the Water
Department to use for paying debt, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Budget
Officer, Accountant and/or Water Superintendent to take such other and further action as may be
necessary to effectuate all terms of this Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 13 day of September, 2010, by the following vote:
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AYES: Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ADVERTISEMENT OF BIDS FOR
PURCHASE OF MATERIALS FOR UNDERDRAIN REHABILITATION
FOR FILTERS AND PROGRAMMABLE LOGIC CONTROLLERS FOR
SUCH FILTERS AT TOWN WATER DEPARTMENT
RESOLUTION NO.: 311, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury’s Water Department Civil Engineer has requested
that the Town Board authorize an advertisement for bids for the purchase of materials for the
underdrain rehabilitation for Filters #3 and #5, including new cell dividers, porous plates and filter
media, and two (2) new Programmable Logic Controllers (PLC) for Filters #1 and #2 at the Town
Water Department in accordance with bid specifications on file with the Town’s Purchasing Agent,
and
WHEREAS, General Municipal Law §103 requires that the Town advertise for bids and
award the bids to the lowest responsible bidder(s) meeting New York State statutory requirements
and the requirements set forth in the Town’s bidding documents,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the Town’s
Purchasing Agent to publish an advertisement for bids for the purchase of materials for the
underdrain rehabilitation for Filters #3 and #5, including new cell dividers, porous plates and filter
media, and two (2) new Programmable Logic Controllers (PLC) for Filters #1 and #2 at the Town
Water Department in the official newspaper for the Town of Queensbury, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Purchasing Agent to
open all bids received, read the same aloud and record the bids as is customarily done and present
the bids to the next regular or special meeting of the Town Board.
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Duly adopted this 13 day of September, 2010, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION SETTING PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED LOCAL
LAW NO. __ OF 2010 TO AMEND QUEENSBURY TOWN CODE
CHAPTER 136, ARTICLE XXIV ENTITLED "ESTABLISHMENT OF
SEWER RENTS" TO INCREASE QUARTERLY CHARGES FOR TOWN
OF QUEENSBURY SANITARY SEWER DISTRICTS
RESOLUTION NO.: 312, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board wishes to consider adoption of Local Law No.:
__ of 2010 to amend Queensbury Town Code Chapter 136, Article XXIV entitled “Establishment
of Sewer Rents," which Local Law would modify the quarterly sewer rent rates in the Queensbury
Consolidated Sanitary Sewer District (previously known as the Central Queensbury/Quaker Road
Sewer District and Hiland Park Sewer District), Queensbury Technical Park, Pershing-Ashley-
Coolidge, South Queensbury-Queensbury Avenue, Route 9 and West Queensbury Sanitary Sewer
Districts, and
WHEREAS, this legislation is authorized in accordance with New York State Municipal
Home Rule Law §10, Town Law Article 16 and General Municipal Law Article 14-F, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board wishes to set a public hearing concerning adoption of this
Local Law,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board shall meet and hold a public hearing at the
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Queensbury Activities Center, 742 Bay Road, Queensbury at 7:00 p.m. on Monday, September 27,
2010 to hear all interested persons and take any necessary action provided by law concerning
proposed Local Law No.: ___ of 2010, and
BE IT FURTHER,
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RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Queensbury Town
Clerk to publish and post a Notice of Public Hearing concerning proposed Local Law No.: __ of
2010 in the manner provided by law.
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Duly adopted this 13 day of September, 2010, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SETTLEMENT OF PENDING
ARTICLE 7 REAL PROPERTY ASSESSMENT CASES
COMMENCED BY JOHN BOOMER
RESOLUTION NO.: 313, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
WHEREAS, John Boomer previously commenced Article 7 Real Property Assessment
Review cases against the Town of Queensbury for the 2008, 2009, and 2010 assessments on
residential property located at 23 Wood Point Lane (Tax Map No.: 239.14-1-3), and
WHEREAS, the Town Assessor has recommended a settlement proposal to the Town
Board and the Town Board has reviewed the cases with Town Counsel, and
WHEREAS, it is anticipated that the Lake George Central School District will approve the
proposed settlement,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby approves the settlement of the
pending Article 7 proceedings filed by John Boomer identified above as follows:
Year Tax Map # Current AV Proposed AV Reduction
2008 239.14-1-3 1,198,800 1,073,800 125,000
2009 239.14-1-3 1,198,800 1,073,800 125,000
2010 239.14-1-3 1,198,800 1,073,800 125,000
and
BE IT FURTHER,
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RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorizes and directs payment of any and all refunds,
with interest if ordered by the Court, within sixty (60) days after service upon the Warren County
Treasurer of the Order approving settlement with Notice of Entry, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor,
Town Assessor, Town Budget Officer and/or Town Counsel to execute settlement documents and
take any additional steps necessary to effectuate the proposed settlement in accordance with the
terms of this Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 13 day of September, 2010, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION TO AMEND 2010 BUDGET
RESOLUTION NO.: 314, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHEREAS, the following Budget Amendment Requests have been duly initiated and
justified and are deemed compliant with Town operating procedures and accounting practices by the
Town Budget Officer,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the Town’s
Accounting Office to take all action necessary to amend the 2010 Town Budget as follows:
From To
Code Appropriation Code Appropriation $
001-1680-1010 Wages 001-8020-1010 Wages 30,000
004-5110-4620 Paving Materials 004-5112-2899 Chips 27,264
004-5130-4410 Fuel 004-5140-4009 Tree Trimming 5,000
033-0000-0909 Fund Balance 033-8130-4425 Sewage Treatment 4500
035-8130-4425 Sewage Treatment 035-8120-4400 Misc. Contractual 2000
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Increase Revenue
040-0000-52680 Insurance Recoveries 500
Increase Appropriation
040-8340-4110 Repairs 500
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Duly adopted this 13 day of September, 2010, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION APPROVING AUDIT OF BILLS –
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WARRANT OF SEPTEMBER 14, 2010
RESOLUTION NO.: 315, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board wishes to approve an audit of bills presented as a
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Warrant with a run date of September 9, 2010 and payment date of September 14, 2010,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby approves the Warrant with the run
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date of September 9, 2010 and payment date of September 14, 2010 totaling $2,070,399.36, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor
and/or Town Budget Officer to take such other and further action as may be necessary to effectuate
the terms of this Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 13 day of September, 2010, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AGREEMENT WITH DAVID J. DECKER,
P.E. & ASSOCIATES FOR PROVISION OF YEAR 2010 PROGRAM AND
PROJECT MANAGEMENT SERVICES RELATED TO “LAKE GEORGE –
PLAN FOR THE FUTURE” GRANT FUNDING AND EXECUTION OF
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AGREEMENT #C006962 WITH NEW YORK STATE AND ESTABLISHING
APPROPRIATIONS AND ESTIMATED REVENUES FOR GRANT FUNDS
RESOLUTION NO.: 316, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHEREAS, the environmental health and overall quality of life in the Lake George
Watershed area is critical to the social and economic well being for the Town of Queensbury,
Warren County and the region in general, and
WHEREAS, the protection, preservation and proper management of water quality within
the basin is an essential ingredient to maintaining this revered natural resource as a key to the
social and economic vitality of this region, and
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury has been an active participant in developing the
critically important water quality management plan, and
WHEREAS, the adopted document, entitled, “Lake George – Plan for the Future”
identifies numerous recommendations and actions as being critical to pursuing the objectives of
preserving, protecting and enhancing the water quality throughout the Basin, several of which
will require the engagement of contract services to execute these recommendations, and
WHEREAS, by Resolution No.: 340,2008, the Queensbury Town Board authorized
submission of the Environmental Protection Fund Application for State Assistance Payments –
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Local Waterfront Revitalization Program, Year 2008-2009 dated June 30, 2008 in response to
New York State’s solicitation of Financial Assistance Grant, and
WHEREAS, the NYS Department of State recently awarded to the Town of Queensbury, on
behalf of all participating municipalities in the Lake George Watershed Coalition (LGWC),
$1,200,000 – ‘Grant A – C006868”, and $600,000 – “ Grant B – C006962”, (respectively) in
separate
matching grant funds for implementation of the Local Waterfront Revitalization Program
for 2009-2010, such funds (in Grant “A”) to supplement an announced construction project being
progressed by the New York State Department of Transportation to reconstruct part of Route 9,
extending into the Village of Lake George, with the local match for this grant already secured by
three members of the LGWC, namely the Town of Lake George, Village of Lake George and
Warren County, regarding the purchase of the Gaslight Village property and the LGWC’s purchase
of the 1400 acre Berry Pond Tract located within the West Brook Watershed,and such funds in
(Grant “B”) to supplement local matching funds and services-in-kind provided by the collective
membership of the Lake George Watershed Coalition, and
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WHEREAS, the Town Board has already considered and adopted Resolution 297,2009,
related to the aforementioned Project “A – C006868” and,
WHEREAS, the Town Board wishes to also authorize a Year 2010 Agreement with Decker
& Associates for the provision of program and project management services in connection with the
Town’s grant “B- C006962” award, and
WHEREAS, a copy of a proposed Agreement between the Town and Decker & Associates
has been presented at this meeting,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby accepts the $600,000 in matching
grant funding to be received from New York State for implementation of the Environmental
Protection Fund Application for State Assistance Payments – Local Waterfront Revitalization
Program, Year 2010-2011program as more specifically set forth above, in the interest of advancing
the important work of protecting the preservation of water quality of Lake George, and authorizes
and directs the Town Supervisor to execute a Grant Agreement and any other associated
documentation and take any other action necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further establishes appropriations and estimated
revenues as follows:
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Increase Appropriations in Account 014-8310-4400-6962 by $600,000;
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Increase Revenue in Account 014-0000-53789-6962 by $600,000;
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Budget Officer
to amend the 2010 Town Budget, make any adjustments, budget amendments, transfers or prepare
any documentation necessary to establish such appropriations and estimated revenues and effectuate
all terms of this Resolution, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further approves of the Agreement for Services between
David J. Decker, P.E. & Associates and the Town of Queensbury substantially in the form presented
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at this meeting for the provision of program and project management services relating to grant funds
received by the Town, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the fees paid to Decker & Associates for rendering 12 months worth of
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program management services shall be $97,560 not to include out-of-pocket expenses, such
services to paid by a temporary loan from the General Fund until such time as the Town receives its
grant funds, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor to
sign the Agreement and further authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor, Town Counsel and/or
Town Budget Officer to take such other and further action necessary to effectuate the terms of this
Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 13 day of September, 2010, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
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DISCUSSION HELD BEFORE VOTE:
DIRECTOR OF THE LAKE GEORGE WATERSHED COOLITION, DAVID DECKER-
Reviewed for the Board the Proposed resolution
RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING NEW CAPITAL PROJECT FUNDS #178 AND #179
CONCERNING CLOSURE AND REPLACEMENT OF FUEL STORAGE TANKS AND
SITE REMEDIATION AND AUTHORIZING AWARD AND ADVERTISEMENT OF BIDS
RESOLUTION NO.: 317, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHEREAS, by Resolution No.: 267,2010, the Queensbury Town Board authorized the
issuance of up to $450,000 in serial bonds to pay the cost of closure and replacement of three (3)
existing underground fuel storage tanks and the acquisition, construction and installation of a
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fueling island in a different location with new aboveground storage tanks and surface spillage
containment system at the Town Highway Garage site, and
WHEREAS, by Resolution No.: 266,2010, the Town Board authorized the issuance of up
to $255,000 in serial bonds to pay the cost of site remediation at the Town Highway Garage site,
including the cleaning, removal and disposal of remaining system components and excavation and
off-site disposal of contaminated soil in the vicinity of the discontinued oil-water separator in
compliance with USEPA rules and regulations, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board accordingly wishes to establish two (2) Capital Project
Funds related to these Projects, and
WHEREAS, the Town’s Engineer, Vision Engineering, LLC prepared bid documents and
specifications to advertise for bids for the closure and replacement of the three (3) existing
underground fuel storage tanks, an advertisement for bids was published, and bids were received,
and
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WHEREAS, on September 9, 2010, all received bids were opened, and
WHEREAS, Vision Engineering, LLC and the Town Purchasing Agent have
recommended that the Town Board award the bid to the lowest responsible bidder, E. W.
Tompkins Company, Inc., for an amount not to exceed $429,349, and
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the
establishment of two (2) Capital Project Funds to be known as the:
1.Highway Fuel Storage Tanks Project Fund #178; and
2.Site Remediation at Highway Garage Project Fund #179;
which Funds will establish funding for expenses associated with the closure and replacement of
underground fuel storage tanks and site remediation work at the Town Highway Garage site, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs that funding for these
Projects shall be by proceeds of the serial bonds as set forth in Resolutions No. 266 and 267 of
2010, and
BE IT FURTHER,
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RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby establishes initial appropriations and estimated
revenues for:
1.Capital Project Fund #178 in the amount of $450,000; and
2.Capital Project Fund #179 in the amount of $255,000;
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Budget
Officer to take all action necessary to establish accounts for such appropriations and revenues as
necessary, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Budget Officer to
amend the 2010 Town Budget, make any adjustments, budget amendments, transfers or prepare any
documentation necessary to establish such appropriations and estimated revenues and effectuate all
terms of this Resolution, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby accepts and awards the bid for the
closure and replacement of the three (3) existing underground fuel storage tanks from the lowest
responsible bidder, E. W. Tompkins Company, Inc., for an amount not to exceed $429,349, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor to
execute any needed Agreement between the Town and E. W. Tompkins Company, Inc., in form
acceptable to the Town Supervisor, Vision Engineering, LLC, Town Budget Officer and/or
Town Counsel, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town’s Purchasing
Agent to publish two (2) advertisements for bids in accordance with General Municipal Law §103
for:
1.the removal of the three (3) existing underground fuel storage tanks in the official
newspaper for the Town of Queensbury; and
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2.the remediation, including the cleaning, removal and disposal of remaining system
components and excavation and off-site disposal of contaminated soil in the vicinity
of the discontinued oil-water separator in compliance with USEPA rules and
regulations; and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Purchasing Agent to
open all bids received, read the same aloud and record the bids as is customarily done and present
the bids to the Town Board, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor, Town
Purchasing Agent, Town Budget Officer, Town Engineer, Town Counsel and/or Facilities Manager
to take any and all actions necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 13 day of September, 2010 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING COMMENCEMENT OF SUPREME
COURT ACTION IN CONNECTION WITH TOWN OF QUEENSBURY V.
WILLIAM THREW – ILLEGAL JUNKYARD OPERATION
RESOLUTION NO.: 318, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
WHEREAS, Chapter 102 of the Town Code provides for administration and enforcement of
the Town’s Junkyard Ordinance and related laws, codes, ordinances, and regulations, and
WHEREAS, William Threw owns property at 375 and 369 Big Bay Road and an adjacent
lot, without frontage off Egan Road, in the Town of Queensbury (Tax Map No.: 309.17-1-13,
309.17-1-12 and 309.17-1-7) and Town officials have warned Mr. Threw on numerous occasions
and through previous Town Court actions, that Mr. Threw is not allowed to bring or store discarded
junk, junk vehicles and other debris to his property, and
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WHEREAS, the Town’s Director of Building and Codes is charged with enforcement of the
Town’s Junkyard Ordinance and has personally observed that junk vehicles, discarded motor
vehicle parts, scrap metal, garbage, lot clearing debris, construction debris, demolished building
parts and other junk items continue to be discarded on Mr. Threw’s property, and
WHEREAS, the Town’s Director of Building and Code Enforcement has therefore
recommended to the Town Board that it commence a Supreme Court action against Mr. Threw to
require Mr. Threw to come into conformance with the Town’s Junkyard Ordinance and Town
Code, and
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Court lacks injunctive power to require this action, and
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board wishes to pursue preliminary and permanent
injunctive relief,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the
commencement of a Warren County Supreme Court action to pursue preliminary and permanent
injunctive relief against William Threw concerning the property located at 375 and 369 Big Bay
Road and an adjacent lot, without frontage off Egan Road, in the Town of Queensbury (Tax Map
No.: 309.17-1-13, 309.17-1-12 and 309.17-1-7) as referenced in the preambles of this Resolution,
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town’s Budget
Officer to arrange for payment of any Court and/or litigation costs related to this matter from the
account(s) deemed to be appropriate by the Budget Officer, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs Town Counsel to file
any necessary documentation to commence such proceeding and the Town Supervisor, Town
Counsel, Director of Building and Codes Enforcement and/or Town Budget Officer to take any
and all action necessary to effectuate all terms of this Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 13 day of September, 2010, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Montesi, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier
NOES: Mr. Strough
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ABSENT: None
5.0 CORRESPONDENCE
DEPUTY CLERK MELLON- We have the Supervisor’s Report for Community
Development/Building and Codes for the month of August is on file in the Town Clerk’s Office.
6.0 TOWN BOARD DISCUSSIONS
COUNCILMAN BREWER-
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The exit 18 corridor project for Media Drive west will be completed this year.
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Spoke regarding the September 30 deadline with Pyramid Mall. Suggested a resolution
two weeks from tonight authorizing the commencement of Supreme Court action if work
has begun.
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- Queensbury Senior Citizens Newsletter – reviewed their
upcoming events. For more information or to become a member call 761-8224.
COUNCILMAN MONTESI- Delighted to report that the Home Avenue project is now
underway.
COUNCILMAN METIVIER-
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Thanked Councilman Montesi and Councilman Strough for covering for him on a
drainage issue on Hilman Road. Spoke of the need of a workshop meeting on this issue.
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Has spoken with Bob Huntz regarding Lake Sunnyside. It is a mess with milfoil again.
We need to get together at a workshop with the Members of the Sunnyside Association
concerning the establishment of a district.
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- With regards to the issues in Lake Sunnyside, recently attended
Kathy Bozony’s presentation on algae growth in Lake George. The information she presented
can apply to Glen Lake and Sunnyside as well. She mentioned that plant growth depends on
nutrients and phosphorus is the big culprit. Explained that he has been doing some research
himself; and he will have a draft to share with the Board on accessing shoreline chemical use.
SUPERVISOR STEC-
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Thanked TV8 and their sponsors for televising the Town Board Meetings
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The town’s website: www.queensbury.net Our Technology Coordinator, Ryan Lashway,
has been working on a significant face lift of the Town’s website. Explained that there is
a lot of good information on this site.
RESOLUTION ADJOURNING REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING
RESOLUTION NO.: 319, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns its Regular
Town Board Meeting.
Duly adopted this 13th day of September, 2010, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi
NOES: None
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ABSENT: None
Respectfully Submitted,
Darleen M. Dougher
Town Clerk
Town of Queensbury