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TOWN BOARD MEETING MTG. #47
DECEMBER 20, 2010 RES. 404-418
7:00 p.m. BOH 35-36
TOWN BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT
SUPERVISOR DANIEL STEC
COUNCILMAN ANTHONY METIVIER
COUNCILMAN RONALD MONTESI
COUNCILMAN JOHN STROUGH
ABSENT
COUNCILMAN TIM BREWER
TOWN OFFICIALS
TOWN COUNSEL BOB HAFNER
ZONING ADMINISTRATOR CRAIG BROWN
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY SUPERVISOR DANIEL STEC
Supervisor Stec-Announced that Councilman Brewer was ill tonight and will not be attending the
meeting.
1.0 BOARD OF HEALTH
RESOLUTION CALLING FOR QUEENSBURY BOARD OF HEALTH
RESOLUTION NO. 404.2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby moves into the Queensbury Board
of Health.
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Duly adopted this 20 day of December 2010 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Stec
NOES: None
ABSENT: Mr. Brewer
RESOLUTION SETTING PUBLIC HEARING ON SEWAGE DISPOSAL
VARIANCE APPLICATION OF DOUG AND MURIEL CHERRY
RESOLUTION NO.: 35, 2010 BOH
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board serves as the Town’s Local Board of Health and is
authorized by Town Code Chapter 136 to issue variances from the Town’s On-Site Sewage Disposal
Ordinance, and
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WHEREAS, Douglas and Muriel Cherry have applied to the Local Board of Health for variances
from Chapter 136 to install a leaching system:
1. 130’ upgrade and in direct path of surface water drainage to a well in lieu of the required
200’ setback;
2. 5’ from the property line in lieu of the required 10’ setback;
3. to be located on natural slope of greater than ten-percent (10%),
on property located at N. Fitzgerald Road, Glen Lake, in the Town of Queensbury,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town of Queensbury Local Board of Health will hold a public hearing on
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Monday, January 24, 2011 at 7:00 p.m. at the Queensbury Activities Center, 742 Bay Road, Queensbury, to
consider Douglas and Muriel Cherry’s sewage disposal variance application concerning property located at
N. Fitzgerald Road, Glen Lake, in the Town of Queensbury (Tax Map No.: 289.14-1-7) and at that time all
interested persons will be heard, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Local Board of Health authorizes and directs the Queensbury Town Clerk to
publish the Notice of Public Hearing presented at this meeting and send a copy of the Notice to neighbors
located within 500 feet of the property as required by law.
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Duly adopted this 20 day of December, 2010, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Stec
NOES : None
ABSENT: Mr. Brewer
RESOLUTION ADJOURNING QUEENSBURY BOARD OF HEALTH
RESOLUTION NO. 36.2010 BOH
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Board of Health hereby adjourns is meeting and moves back into
Regular Session.
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Duly adopted this 20 day of December, 2010 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Stec
NOES: None
ABSENT: Mr. Brewer
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TOWN BOARD MEETING
2.0 PUBLIC HEARINGS
2.1 PUBIC HEARING - 2010-2011 EMERGENCY AMBULANCE SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE
TOWN OF QUEENSBURY AND BAY RIDGE RESCUE SQUAD, INC.
NOTICE SHOWN
PUBLICATION DATE: 12-10-2010
Supervisor Stec-We have two rescue squad public hearings tonight on s, as we did two weeks ago we did
a two year for North Queensbury EMS that was for 2010 and 2011, this first one is also like that one for
the remainder of 2010 through the end of 2011. The one after this for West Glens Falls is a one year
just for 2011. We recently did their 2010 one, a month or two ago. With that said Bay Ridge has sought
from the town to, we had been having West Glens Falls EMS handling the paid staffing for the two
companies and there was scheduling issues and coordination issues that were becoming more and more
affecting the operations so the major change is that Bay Ridge sought from the Town and the Town
Board I think is poised to allow them to handle their own bill for service, enter into their own contact.
Coincidentally, Bay Ridge for next year 2011 and West Glens Falls EMS will be getting identical amounts
of paid staffing and they will be on the hook to provide an identical amount of paid coverage, which is
twenty four seven, three hundred and sixty five days a year a paid crew on from six in the morning to six
in the evening. In Queensbury at any given time there will be at least from six in the morning to six in
the evening at least two paid crews on town wide and as I discussed at our public hearing that we had
for North Queensbury a couple of weeks ago there are additional coverage being provided in North
Queensbury. It is not quite twenty four seven however the three squads operationally do coordinate
with their responses with each other and it is just a matter of trying to spread resources as equitably
and as common sensibly as possible to you know based on the relative call volumes you would not
necessarily want to have identical coverage in two areas, one that has fifteen hundred calls a year and
another that has two hundred calls a year. But, they have got a nice system worked out so it is not as
necessarily as it would appear that way. But, for Bay Ridge it is a two year , for 2010 the Town will pay
and we have been paying on a monthly basis so there will be a balance payment once we adopt the .
But, 2010, I am looking for the right page where it is summarized better, you got it right there, thanks.
2010 operations is $154,250. , insurance is $19,500 thousand, debt service $37,500. for a total of
$211,250. In 2011 as I just mentioned their paid staffing will come out separately from West so you will
see a corresponding reduction in West’s 2011 contact if you compare the 2010, but operations for Bay
Ridge next year will be $160,000 so up almost six thousand dollars from 2010 to 2011, insurance the
same at $19,500. the debt service will go down to $32,000. There is a $185,000 paid staffing line in
there and then aside from that we also set aside a not to exceed number for engineering expenses
because Bay Ridge has been working with the Town and most closely with Ron Montesi as far as they
have identified a need to look at a building expansion. The building expansion per se is not part of the
public hearing tonight but we have allocated in their contact $30,000 for engineering expenses to get
ready should they follow through and get something ready for the Town Board to consider that may be
the subject for a future Town Board meeting. But, that is, those monies are not for any building
expansion or not part of this . So, for a total for 2011 of $426,500. With that said I will open the public
hearing and take any comment on the Bay Ridge two year as anyone may want out there. I just ask that
people just raise their hand one at a time . Mr. Miller.
Mr. Jason Miller-Farr Lane-Town of Queensbury Just so there is no confusion I am involved with EMS
except I am involved with the West Glens Falls Emergency Squad, I have been so for about the last
thirteen years. I just want to bring to light a concern that came to my attention regarding Bay Ridge’s
separation and hiring their own paid staff company. It is my belief that Bay Ridge intends to enter into a
with a company by the name of E5. E5 is owned by Doug Wildermuth who at the time a proposal was
made to the Bay Ridge Rescue Squad was the Captain. As the Captain of the Bay Ridge Rescue Squad he
also sits on the Board of Directors, I believe. Doug stepped down this year for 2011 as the Captain and
will be the Vice President. I just want to raise the question if there is any type of conflict between Doug
acting as the owner agent of E5 proposing a to the Bay Ridge Rescue Squad where he is a member and
elected official and then sitting on the Board of Bay Ridge Rescue Squad as they enter into a contact
with E5?
Supervisor Stec-I know you did ask me last week this very question and I gave you an answer and after I
got of the phone with you I called our Attorney Bob Hafner to just verify that he did not have any
tremendous objections to how I answered you. I will let Bob chime in there. The question just to be
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clear, one; I think it is good to point out that this relationship potentially exists, if for no other reason for
transparency sake, number two; it is still hypothetical I do not know, we do not know for sure, I imagine
we could find out here in a few minutes which I think is the purpose of your question. But, Bob per se,
as far as the Town ing with the rescue squad or three rescue squads, these are private companies, what
is our level of responsibility to answer Mr. Miller’s question. Or should we…
Town Counsel Hafner-It is not our legal issue, whether or not it’s legal for them to enter into that sort of
. If you want to as a policy decision you know, jump in you can, but it is their job to run their entity and
they have got to provide service and they can only spend this money in a proper fashion providing the
twenty four seven EMS coverage that you’re talking about. That is their call.
Supervisor Stec-Whether it is legal or not is their issue, whether we are comfortable entering into a
contact without addressing the issue is our’s.
Town Counsel Hafner-Correct.
Supervisor Stec-I imagine we will hear from Bay Ridge in a few minutes, they may say absolutely true
and this is why we feel this way or they may say no that is just a rumor, there are always rumors going
around.
Mr. Miller-Won’t this bring up an audit issue? If a member of the rescue squad is receiving a financial?
Town Counsel Hafner-It will trigger that is accurate, I think it will trigger issue for them which is their
duty to look, to deal with, because as a not for profit you
Mr. Miller-Your Town gives them taxpayer money to provide the service, wouldn’t it be beneficial to
avoid a legal problem down the road by the town because when they have to pay their legal bill it is
going to be more taxpayer money to pay the legal bills.
Supervisor Stec-I want to find out the answer to your question but I will use this as an opportunity to
point out that in my eleven years serving this town and dealing with the five fire companies and the
three rescue squads there has always been an issue with every single one of them that bothers me
about their audit. How they conduct business how transparent they are including West and if the Town
Board was in charge of the eight companies directly we would probably in many instances do things
differently than the eight companies do. But, the eight companies are very quick to point out when it
suits them but they are private non- profit companies and our limit of authority over them is limited to
the contact and the power of the purse. If the Town Board wants to exercise its control through the
power of the purse we certainly can. I do not think historically we have been ogres about it but it is in
our purview to say we are not comfortable with that we are not going to give you money.
Mr. Miller-My other question was, I believe when the paid staff was started seven or eight years ago
that it was by a town resolution that West Glens Falls could enter into a with Keena, does the Town also
have the to pass a resolution allowing Bay Ridge to enter into a with whoever they use?
Supervisor Stec-The contacts all read including the one that we
Mr. Miller-I understand now, but past practice I believe there was a resolution that said that we could.
Supervisor Stec-The Town Board passes resolutions that supersede resolutions all the time, each contact
is new, if it changes from to that is.
Councilman Montesi-Jason, let me tell you the concern that I had. When we put this thing together the
new funding for twenty four seven
Mr. Miller-It is not twenty four seven and
Supervisor Stec-I meant twelve seven.
Councilman Montesi-When we put this together there was some additional money that went to West
and Bay, and I thought the easiest way to handle this situation was for West to continue to contact with
Keena who makes the payroll checks out just for the public’s information, and for Bay to with Keena
and make the payroll checks out. E5 is a separate corporation that was formed, it is more expensive to
go with E5 the dollars were there, it was much more expensive and that is the only issue that I have
with it. Again, it is a separate corporation I do not have much to say about that, maybe we should, all
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that I am saying is that gee guys we worked pretty hard to give you more money and now it is going to
cost you more so are we still going to get twelve hour coverage, where do you take the money to do E5
from, paid staffing, I do not know. It is a question, that is the only issue I had.
Councilman Strough-Would Exhibit B of the apply here? Where a for service exceeds one thousand
dollars they have to get three quotes?
Supervisor Stec-That is the other thing I said, as long as they follow their procurement policy whether it
is ours that is proposed in the or their own, if they get three quotes, there is a procedure there is a
mechanism. That is the conversation that I had last week with Jason and a couple weeks before with
Sandy that they have a purchasing guideline to follow. If they follow it then they are in compliance with
our .
Councilman Strough-Do we have that policy Exhibit B to all the EMS s as it says facilitates acquisition of
goods and services, we are talking about service here the optimum quality at the lowest price to guard
against favoritism, extravagance, fraud and corruption. So, we have that Exhibit B in the contact
already which I think might apply here.
Supervisor Stec-We are still talking about something that may or may not happen, Dave may come to
the microphone in a minute when we give him a chance and say we are going to follow this we are going
to have three bids and we are going to go with whoever the lowest bidder is. If the lowest bidder is
somebody else then wonderful then it is a non issue.
Town Counsel Hafner-It actually goes on John and Dan to say that all related party s require approval of
the majority of each companies or squads board of directors. It has to be fully disclosed and
affirmatively done. If a not for profit enters into a with someone who is an officer or director there are
legal issues that they have to deal with because IRS has rules about people financially benefiting who are
in control, but that is their responsibility to comply with the Internal Revenue Code Rules.
Mr. Miller-Who pays the fine and who pays the legal fees if they do run into that?
Supervisor Stec-They do, which is why we are always struggling with all eight companies to not get
themselves in this hot water and invariably they do. In the past they have not been overly shy about
coming in here and asking the Town for more money. I understand your point, indirectly if they have a
financial condition that affects them financially they are going to ultimately come here looking for help,
which is why when one company had a problem with an insurance issue and an environmental spill issue
as much as it broke my heart to have to do it, the answer in my opinion was not to come to the Town
Board and say pull out the check book. We ended up doing that and I ended up voting against that
resolution and I had a fire company irritated with me for better part of a year for it but it was the right
thing I thought to do. All is well that ends well, they were successful in recovering most of their loss any
way with the insurance business so it worked out pretty well for the taxpayer. The first line of defense
should not be we will come to the Town of Queensbury. All these questions we are talking about this
question, we are talking about well what kind of, EMS companies in here that don’t like the way that
West has set up paid staffing and King for a Day I am not, this is still America it is still a democracy but if I
was in complete control in charge here, well for starters we have one rescue squad and probably a lot
more oversight involved there than you want us to have.
Mr. Miller-Well, why don’t we let them come up and answer it
Councilman Montesi-The last, as you point out it was good to air this.
Supervisor Stec-Yea. Thanks Anyone else what to comment on this public hearing or address the
comments made? Mr. Wildermuth
Mr. Doug Wildermuth-Good evening, Doug Wildermuth, 3 Thistlewood Drive, Queensbury, New York
former Captain of Bay Ridge Rescue Squad and CEO of E5 Support Services. I do understand Mr. Miller’s
concerns and I had the same concerns because over the past I guess since February of this year when
this idea came about initially from the first set of attorneys that the Bay Ridge Rescue Squad Board of
Directors met with a lot has evolved since then. From then to today the Bay Ridge Rescue Squad’s
attorney has been consulted about the same concern and the E5 attorneys were also consulted about
the same concern. As you mentioned quite articulately the company identity of course reserves the
right to do business with any other company identity. As of right now there is no signed with E5
Support Services, although Bay Ridge Rescue Squad is looking at them but at the same time nothing has
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been signed as of right now and everything is expected as well as planned to go ahead and follow the
Town as it is stated.
Supervisor Stec-Included the purchasing policy where they shop it and they do business with whoever
they want as long as they follow the law and whatnot. I appreciate you coming Doug and answering the
questions, one thing you didn’t throw out is it accurately being an officer next year?
Mr. Wildermuth-They voted me in as far as Vice President but as in the past discussions when I was a
Board of Director I was excused per our attorney’s advice as well, excuse yourself from those topics and
or concerns. I will be quite honest I do not have a problem doing that and I do not have a problem
resigning from the position although the company may if it is a larger concern. As a new town business
or course but as a new town business as well I have a deep concern for the way this company can be
manifested over the next couple of years to make things more legal and more proper with not only this
emergency squad but the half dozen other emergency squads that have already contacted me about
doing the right thing here.
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Councilman Montesi-Doug, will the January 1 is when this thing is going to take effect?
Mr. Wildermuth-Yes, Sir.
Councilman Montesi-So, are you saying to me that Bay Ridge is going to go out and get three
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competitive bids on this by January 1?
Mr. Wildermuth-No, they are going to have to get two others.
Councilman Montesi-Ok.
Supervisor Stec-Any other questions for Doug?
Councilman Metivier-What made, I am sorry that I do not know this, but what made Bay Ridge decide to
look at somebody else? What was the driving force?
Mr. Wildermuth-There are a lot of legalities that are based upon ambulance companies and the way the
operate as far as paid staff. There are a lot of department of labor issues and concerns, appropriate
training and somewhat and so forth that actually stirred by thoughts to create this company. I hope it is
successful.
Councilman Metivier-We talked about this during the workshop, wasn’t there something else that, I
cannot remember.
Mr. Wildermuth-In the past there has been a practice of certain members getting paid overtime from
another company, yes, and you know the supervisory and management of the paid staff especially this
last year has not gone as satisfactory as Bay Ridges would like and we weren’t getting an input that we
would have liked to have seen to see these people operate out of our building cooperatively with the
volunteers and that is what led us on this in the beginning of the year to go ahead and seek out what
other alternatives there are out there for paid staff.
Councilman Metivier-So, this is just paid staffing it is not billed for service.
Mr. Wildermuth-That is correct.
Councilman Metivier-That is a separate entity all together.
Councilman Montesi-That was why Doug I mean, you certainly have brought it to our attention and we
said ok, you know what it might be a better deal for you guys to have your own paid staffing dollars to
handle that management part of it and Bay Ridge and West to do theirs. That is why we split it up.
Honest and truly I just felt gee, Keena has done a pretty good job for us just making payroll checks out
and it’s a function that has to be done and why didn’t the companies just ok, I will take my share you
take your share and we are still with Keena. I am not an advocate of Keena but they are the only other
player that I know of. I helped West Glens Falls look at a Mike I think it was call the Michaels Group out
of Albany
Mr. Wildermuth-JJ Staffing.
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Councilman Montesi-JJ yea. I think his name is Mike, and that was terribly much more expensive too.
So, we ruled that out and West decided to stay with Keena and I mean because it worked.
Councilman Metivier-Didn’t Keena say they did not want to do this any…
Mr. Wildermuth-There are two types of staffing at Keena, it is called a PSO and an ASO, Professional
Services Organization and Administrative Services Organization. One goes ahead and takes liability for
the agency and works with you as your employer the other one does not. That is where you dip into the
legalities of the Department of Labor and volunteers working for themselves. Right now Keena is only
doing ASO’s.
Councilman Metivier-Ok, when you asked then they weren’t
Mr. Mildermuth-They were not doing PSO’s.
Councilman Metivier-Were not willing to.
Mr. Wildermuth-anymore and they were contacting agencies locally that has the PSO and asking they to
go to ASO’s.
Councilman Metivier-That is the conversation we had during our workshop. That is what I needed
clarification on.
Supervisor Stec-There is a difference of opinion out there amongst EMS folks whether or not an ASO is
adequate or
Mr. Wildermuth-As much as I respect the opinions of other members as well as residents of the
community to go ahead and speak about this what could appear as a huge difference I have a full time
job and I am really looking at this from a doing it right perspective the first time and following through
than I am about you know making money.
Councilman Metivier-So, you would be considered a PSO then?
Mr. Wildermuth-Better than that. I would be yes.
Supervisor Stec-Just out of curiosity has anybody from any of the other Queensbury rescue squads
contacted you to express concern about what we are talking about right now?
Mr. Wildermuth-No, Sir this is the first that I have heard about it is tonight.
Supervisor Stec-Don’t go too far. Do you have anything else for us?
Mr. Miller-Not unless you have questions about the or anything?
Councilman Metivier-The contact is fine it is just this issue is, when it raises a question that needs, just
Supervisor Stec-You have got transparency and full disclosure. It is a hypothetical thing that may
happen in the future, now the thing is that if we authorize the with Bay Ridge tonight the Town Board
will be out of the loop, that may happen it has not happened yet, but it may happen that they engage E5
in the future but as Bob pointed out and as the states as long as they are following the and the law
which is their responsibility to worry about. As Jason pointed out if it comes back and somebody out
there decides maybe somebody in the audience that likes to involve themselves in fire and ems business
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Mr. Wildermuth-I highly encourage the public Bay Ridge has always had an open relationship with the
town and you can follow up on this even after tonights resolution or not and I encourage the town.
During this whole entire process all I kept thinking is wow I wish the town was more aware of what goes
on with their emergency services. My …is here I would be more than happy to share with anybody.
Councilman Montesi-The only problem is Doug is that ASO, Keena has said that is all we are going to bid
on. Mike JJ said ASO is all they are going to bid on so you are offering something that nobody else wants
to offer or can offer and you are assuming the liability that is the problem. That is why it is more
expensive. But, I mean
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Supervisor Stec-It is and it isn’t.
Councilman Montesi-It is pretty hard to get three bids.
Supervisor Stec-It is and it isn’t more expensive because in both s they have in West’s and Bay Ridge’s
they have identical town funds being provided.
Councilman Montesi-That is the question I asked before.
Supervisor Stec-And they are required to pay the same hourly rate to their employees.
Mr. Wildermuth-We are going to have to try, but I think there is also a legality end that you want to look
at this as well and with the studies that I have done since last February there is no doubt in my mind
that
Supervisor Stec-Refresh my memory and we will give them some free advertising here, who is the
rescue squad’s attorney?
Mr . Wildermuth-Judge Mike Muller, I should have said Counsel.
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Supervisor Stec-Most Town Judges have law practices
Mr. Wildermuth-Yes but it is my other profession that keep putting the title in there.
Supervisor Stec-I will let you know for the record that I cannot speak for the other three guys I am not
intimidated at all that you are a State Trooper.
Town Counsel Hafner-If I could say something, we are talking about things sometimes you also have to
do and you sure, you have is take a step back, while this is a two year it really is only kicking in for one
year, 2011, if during the year the Town Board has concerns they can address those concerns with next
year’s , 2012 it is only one year. You have the right to audit as you always do.
Supervisor Stec-This issue goes back more than a year, Doug and Jason were working on things when
we were trying to put together the two rescue squads and this rear its head at least a year ago.
Mr. Wildermuth-Jason and I worked very diligently on that
Supervisor Stec-I know you did, while it did not come to pass I know you both worked long and hard on
this to try and make it happen.
Mr. Wildermuth-Eight and a half months worth but who is counting?
Town Counsel Hafner-I have been representing the Town for like fourteen, fifteen years I forget exactly
which it is but these s have seen changes over the years as there has been issues that the Town Broad
wanted to deal with. We have fined tuned it to deal with the concerns that you have. We can do it
again next year if you have one.
Supervisor Stec-The s are rarely identical we always learn and tweak as we go just like most other things
we do around here. All right let’s take some more public comment and then if we got more questions
we will ask it. Is there anyone else that would like to comment on this public hearing about Bay Ridge
Rescue Squads proposed two year for 2010 and 2011. In effect slightly over one year . Any Board
Members got anything else they need to discuss?
Councilman Montesi-Only that I am really concerned about, we have kind of a shadow on this because I
have been working diligently with a group of guys from Bay Ridge for an expansion of their building. We
are going to have to come back and to the public and ask for a chunk of money to do this building, I
really do not want another issue clouded. In any event they will get three bids if they can, if they can’t I
don’t know what they will do.
Councilman Metivier-Jason, what was your biggest concern? Just so I know where your head is at.
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Mr. Miller-I want to make sure that there is no conflict by Doug receiving a financial benefit from a
bidding process that might have been flawed or there was only one bidder.
Councilman Metivier-So, what are you looking for from us?
Mr. Miller-To make sure that they follow the . I do not want to see them have to deal with the attorney
from the IRS for any other legal to drag the rest of the emergency squads in the town into the lime light
so to speak.
Councilman Montesi-Just to the public knows that there are folks that are members of the West Glens
Falls Emergency Squad that work as paid staff for Bay Ridge and visa versa It is kind of a sharing here.
Councilman Metivier-Would that change with this?
Mr. Miller-As far as I know there is going to be another hiring and interviewing process for positions at
Bay Ridge. So, there is no guarantee that anybody that currently works over there will continue to work
over there.
Councilman Metivier-So, you want to make sure the three bid minimum process.
Supervisor Stec-Do everything that they can, as Ron pointed out they may have logistically it may be
very difficult for them to find somebody to do that.
Councilman Metivier-Are you comfortable though that if we went forward because this is really only a
year and two week ?
Mr. Miller-Knowing Doug as well as I know Doug, yes. I am sure that they are going to …
Councilman Metivier-In the back of my mind, not even the back of my mind in the front of my mind I am
thinking I just do not see Doug jeopardizing his career over this.
Mr. Miller-Neither do I.
Supervisor Stec-I was going to say, we all know the people here that we are talking about, so we have a
level of comfort but certainly the public at home they do not know you or Doug from Adam and they do
not trust any of us.
Councilman Strough-As far as the PSO and the ASO there are issues there are they something you are
concerned about as well?
Mr. Miller-I cannot speak because I am no longer an elected officer in West Glens Falls.
Councilman Metivier-One of the issues John with the ASO and the PSO was the if you are a volunteer
and you put so many hours in and then you are paid staff and you put so many hours in is it over time?
Councilman Strough-It exceed forty hours and that has come up and the liability has come up, the
liability issues between the PSO and the ASO and what Keena will accept and not accept vs other
agencies I know it is not as simple as it may appear.
Mr. Miller-What is accepted and what is legal here are probably two different things and this could be
opening a Pandora ’s Box so to speak.
Councilman Montesi-The ASO is probably the way it is handled all over the State of New York unless a
town owns the squad. With that in mind if the Department of Labor wants to make an issue of some of
these points it is going to go State wide.
Supervisor Stec-There is a practical issue. To use an antidote or example that I get my head around, its
66 on the interstate you are breaking the law but I know that no one gets pulled over at 66 ever, right?
Your point is up there Jason, I am making light of it but I am glad that you brought it up because it
probably gotten more attention than it would have and I feel better that if we are going to move
forward that everyone understands that there is potentially a relationship between. It is not to say that
a fire company or rescue squad around here has never hired a member to plow their driveway as long as
they are getting their bid requirements and all that it is not an issue, but if it becomes an issue it is their
issue, yes, but the rest of it is sooner or later it becomes our issue because it is not like these companies
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have you know thousands of customers that are a source of revenue. So, it’s either private nonprofit
they are or they aren’t because they have a very close relationship with the own because we provide
most of the funds.
Councilman Montesi-So North Queensbury will be with Keena you will be with Keena.
Mr. Miller-West Glens Falls will, yes.
Councilman Metivier-Do you think that potentially this will be a good thing at some point? Is it just too
early to tell?
Mr. Miller-The transition or the switch?
Councilman Metivier-The switch.
Mr. Miller-I do not know I have not seen enough about the E about the program that Doug’s got in place
with E5 to really, to make an informed opinion.
Supervisor Stec-I was going to say as Bob pointed out and Tony again, we have got a year to kick this
around and to see what we like and don’t like about it. I imagine that knowing Doug as well as I do that
he has thought this well out and there are going to be things that once he puts in practice the other
squads will say, you know we did not think that was going to work out but it is working out and likewise
he is going to run into wrinkles in the carpet where you guys will say see that is why we did not want to
do that. It will get better, I am sure that when we come out the pipe line at the end of 2011 we are
going to know more about this and whether or not it is an issue, you know the ASO vs the PSO.
Councilman Montesi-Whether or not it is that much more expensive then where they got it from. Ok.
Supervisor Stec-Anybody else want to comment on this public hearing? All right I will close this public
hearing.
RESOLUTION APPROVING YEAR 2010-2011 EMERGENCY
AMBULANCE SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN TOWN OF
QUEENSBURY AND BAY RIDGE RESCUE SQUAD, INC.
RESOLUTION NO.: 405, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
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WHEREAS, in accordance with Town Law 184, the Queensbury Town Board may with
ambulance services certified or registered in accordance with Public Health Law Article 30 for general
emergency ambulance service within the Town, and
WHEREAS, the Agreement currently in effect between the Town of Queensbury and the Bay Ridge
Rescue Squad, Inc. (Squad) expired on December 31, 2009, and
WHEREAS, as provided in the Agreement dated January 1, 2008, the Town has continued to make
monthly payments to the Squad for their services under such Agreement until a new Agreement is authorized,
and
WHEREAS, the Town and the Squad have negotiated terms for a new two (2) year Agreement for
general emergency ambulance services, and
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WHEREAS, in accordance with Town Law §184 and General Municipal Law §209(b), the Town
Board duly conducted a public hearing and heard all interested persons concerning the proposed Agreement
for emergency ambulance services, and
WHEREAS, a copy of the proposed Agreement has been presented at this meeting,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby approves the emergency ambulance services
Agreement between the Town and the Bay Ridge Rescue Squad, Inc., substantially in the form presented at
this meeting and authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor to execute such Agreement, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor and/or Town
Budget Officer to take such other and further action necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 20 day of December, 2010, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier
NOES : None
ABSENT: Mr. Brewer
2.2 PUBLIC HEARING – EMERGENCY 2011 AMBULANCE SERVICE AGREEMENT BETWEEN TOWN OF
QUEENSBURY AND WEST GLENS FALLS EMERGENCY SQUAD, INC.
NOTICE SHOWN
PUBLICATION DATE: 12-10-2010
Supervisor Stec-As I mentioned before we did when we bought the replacement ambulance for West back a
couple of months ago for the ambulance that was involved in an accident the mechanism that we chose
addressed that because we cannot give these things, we cannot give these rescue squads any funds without a
in place outside of what the allows. To buy the ambulance we needed to address in the so we took that as an
opportunity to adopt a 2010 so West is current on their so they are here for just a one year unlike the other
two squads to talk to us. As I mentioned before their paid
staffing cost is a hundred and eighty five thousand dollars so a similar size chunk of money came out of there
when we let Bay Ridge get their own paid staffing costs so their total is going to be down from previous
years. Their operating expense for next year is $217,360. their insurance is $27,877. their debt service is
$182,460 with is predominately their building and as I mentioned their paid staffing is $185,000 for a total of
just under $612,700. Their call volume runs in the neighborhood of 1600-1800 a year.
They are about seventy percent of the call volume of the town’s calls. This is a one year and I will open the
public hearing. If there are any members of the public that would like to comment on the West Glens Falls
EMS just ask that you raise your hand.
Mr. Jason Miller-You touched on revenue recovery earlier a little bit, do you have the numbers for 2010?
Supervisor Stec-Year to date the revenue total for the town I don’t, I am glad you asked because I like
pointing out this number it is like a million forty thousand it is more than a million less than 1.1 on pause for
it for the year. About 70% of that total is the West total and I think it is about 26% is Bay Ridge and 4-5%
is North, that gives you an idea you know this but for the folks at home you know just giving an idea how
busy the two squads are or the three squads are really. In fact it has been pointed out before geez you EMS
budgets are a lot bigger than they were seven years ago before you had paid staffing. Yes. They are seven
years ago we did not have paid staffing and seven years ago we did not have bill for service and today we
have both and seven years ago we did not have anyone guaranteeing coverage as I described earlier. Now we
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have at any given time on any given day at least two squads on from six in the morning to six in the evening,
whereas before we had nobody guaranteed to be on before. Our coverage has gotten immensely better and at
the same time when we are bring in the neighborhood of a million dollars a year in revenue unlike we were
seven years ago before we went through the exercise beat on the three rescue squads and get their submission
to these initiative which they wanted but it was just a matter of working out the details, kind of like paid
staffing. That your EMS tax has gone, it is forty percent of it was seven years ago. I do not have the
numbers exactly memorized but I think it was thirty eight cents a thousand before we started on this journey
and now it is under fifteen cents a thousand. So, we are paying property tax wise forty percent of what we
were seven years ago but yet we have two paid crews on twelve hours a day, every day plus North
Queensbury whatever jump that is it is almost another set of paid crews. So.we are getting a much, much
better service, much, much improved coverage much higher success rates, you know this already, I am
thanking you for this because you have been in this for awhile.
Mr. Miller-If West Glens Falls is generating about $700,000 of that one million there and our operating
budget just slightly over $600,000 does the town see perhaps letting the rescue squad go on their own and
allowing us to collect our own money through revenue recovery?
Supervisor Stec-It is feasible
Mr. Miller-Then you can lower your EMS tax even more.
Supervisor Stec-…you could lower yours more, but it would certainly spike North Queensbury’s. This is that
one example that I like to point out to Tony so that when Tony visits with folks up in North Queensbury that
he has a little bit of ammunition
Mr. Miller-This is different this isn’t tax money this is money that the rescue squad is generating through
Supervisor Stec-It is all town revenue but
Mr. Miller-Right now it is town revenue but if you were to let the rescue squad go on their own it would not
be West Glens Falls Emergency Squad revenue.
Councilman Metivier-But you are saying that you would collect it but you would also be operating for
yourself not though the town.
Mr. Miller-Correct, we would still sign a contact saying we would provide the service to you.
Supervisor Stec-I am not sure we want to negotiate that deal tonight.
Mr. Miller-I am just putting it out there for the public the chew on.
Supervisor Stec-Right now for the people that have been following closely at home in North Queensbury you
just double their bulk for North Queensbury the ambulances at heading up there because the point of what
you are saying is that you could eliminate the West Glens Falls EMS tax because West Glens Falls and this is
something
Mr. Miller-But is it a taxing district the ems tax?
Supervisor Stec-My point is, Jason, this isn’t a point for you so much as it is for some people that think that
they have been treated unfairly by the Town. West Glens Falls Rescue Squad is subsidizing North
Queensbury EMS. There is a flow of money from West Glens Falls to North Queensbury, most everything
else seems to flow from North Queensbury. We have been hearing for a long time about North Queensbury
and the money flowing from North Queensbury to West Glens Falls, this is an instance where the flow of
money is reversed.
Mr. Miller-If the EMS tax had to be $600,000 less you could still lower it. You could still lower what they
are paying in North Queensbury.
Supervisor Stec-If we still continued to spread that burden around. Well, like I said these are legal questions
that we really have not thought about, whether or not, so we give you all your revenue and then take whatever
the remaining is and spread that around. But, then you are going to have people that are going to say, I mean
Town Counsel Hafner-Let me jump in, it is not if there is a it is your revenue not their revenue.
Mr. Miller-Right now it is.
Councilman Montesi-Jason, the only problem that I have is that somewhere along the line someday we are
going to come to an issue and say, Bay Ridge you really should be handling Bay Road and the College and it
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is crazy to have West Glens Falls come up the Northway come down Quaker Road to handle a call at the
College on Bay Road. In my opinion what you are asking for I would rather see us try to negotiate a relining
of the districts so that there is
Mr. Miller-I would support that.
Councilman Montesi-a better response.
Mr. Miller-They can have Adirondack Manor, they can have the Cedars
Councilman Montesi-Well, that isn’t what we heard. Gee all of a sudden it is turf warfare.
Mr. Miller-But you know what that is where that old school mentality has to go out the door and we need to
be more open.
Supervisor Stec-To mortar along the lines of Ron is saying, if king for a day, it is still a democracy the last I
checked, I would do things differently and there would have been one rescue squad town wide and we would
have had much greater control over how quickly you turn around audits and how well your Board of
Directors does its job, but for whatever reason and I am not going to lay blame. I got my own opinion but I
will reserve them for myself, but the three rescue squads did not want to go that way and you know, I know
you did this isn’t directed at you Jason. Certain a lot of what Ron was saying I think that applies, so we have
three rescue squads now and there isn’t a perfect spit of tax revenue and call revenue that is going into being
distributed out exactly on the ratio that is coming in. There is in fact a net flow from revenue generated by
West Glens Falls that is going to subsidize the other two, there is no question about it.
Mr. Miller-There is no problem with that because ultimately it turns around and comes right back to the
people in the West Glens Falls District when Bay Ridge comes and helps us take a call. I have no concern
with that.
Councilman Strough-When you start to take a look at these things provintually which is kind of what you are
suggesting, there are some members of North Queensbury who their fire protection tax burden would be less
if they were not subsidizing Central.
Supervisor Stec-Well not Central but the others.
Councilman Strough-Well, Central primarily they are the most expense, but you know the others….let me get
back to my point it is Central that takes care of the commercial districts that is generating the sales tax that
benefits North Queensbury. Some members of North Queensbury don’t want to share that burden even
though they benefit from it.
Mr. Miller-I did not want to start this conversation, I apologize.
Supervisor Stec-Don’t go anywhere until we are done, you are going to hear all of it.
Councilman Strough-You have got to look at it in the bigger scheme.
Supervisor Stec-That is what I was going for, is that is one moving part and you are looking at it from the
EMS perspective, but there are other factors involved. In fact counter to the EMS experience, the EMS is
different there is a opposite flow and that is why I said to remind Tony of that because he needs to know that.
There are instances where you know the rest of the town isn’t always riding on somebody else’s coat tail,
here is an example where you know if you are going to do the math and you are going to say who is bring
what for revenue you are bring in enough to pay for yourself by yourself the other two are not. And so your
money is going into a town wide pool and it is distributed, not by call volume but by this Board and the
decisions that we make of who gets an ambulance, who gets a building expansion. We are sensitive to that.
It is night but we were born at night but not last night. All right, thanks. Jason I appreciate all the work that
you have done on the EMS over the years and in particular the last two and on these issues. Is there anyone
else that would like to comment on West Glens Falls EMS 2011 ? I will close that public hearing.
Councilman Montesi-All I can say is when I hear the alarm go off and I am in bed I thank God for the
volunteers and the paid staff.
Supervisor Stec-If you add up the fifteen cents it is EMS coverage and the eighty five cents for fire coverage
that is a buck a thousand the average home assessed at two hundred thousand dollars that is two hundred
bucks a year to most people who live in Queensbury, not having to get up and go to a fire call at two o’clock
in the morning and then have to get up and be at a presentation in a shirt and tie at eight o’clock is worth two
hundred dollars right there to me. Let alone the thousands of hours of training that you do. We appreciate,
everybody, ninety nine percent of the public appreciates what you all do.
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RESOLUTION APPROVING EMERGENCY 2011 AMBULANCE SERVICE
AGREEMENT BETWEEN TOWN OF QUEENSBURY AND
WEST GLENS FALLS EMERGENCY SQUAD, INC.
RESOLUTION NO.: 406, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
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WHEREAS, in accordance with Town Law 184, the Queensbury Town Board may with
ambulance services certified or registered in accordance with Public Health Law Article 30 for general
emergency ambulance service within the Town, and
WHEREAS, the Agreement currently in effect between the Town and the West Glens Falls
Emergency Squad, Inc., will expire on December 31, 2010, and
WHEREAS, the Town and the West Glens Falls Emergency Squad, Inc., have negotiated terms for a
new one (1) year Agreement for general emergency ambulance services, and
WHEREAS, in accordance with Town Law §184 and General Municipal Law §209(b), the Town
Board duly conducted a public hearing and heard all interested persons concerning the proposed Agreement
for emergency ambulance services, and
WHEREAS, a copy of the proposed Agreement has been presented at this meeting,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby approves the emergency ambulance service
Agreement between the Town and the West Glens Falls Emergency Squad, Inc., substantially in the form
presented at this meeting and authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor to execute such Agreement, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor and/or Town
Budget Officer to take such other and further action necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 20 day of December, 2010, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Strough, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi
NOES : None
ABSENT: Mr. Brewer
2.3 PUBLIC HEARING – AMENDMENT TO ORDINANCE 28 ESTABLISHING THROUGH HIGHWAYS AND
STOP INTERSECTIONS IN THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY, COUNTY OF WARREN, NEW YORK
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NOTICE SHOWN
PUBLICATION DATE: 12-10-2010
Supervisor Stec-I will open this public hearing and this is to put a stop sign at the intersection of Heron
Hollow Road and Hillman Road in North Queensbury. Tony has been working on this with Ron and the
Town Highway Department recently addressed some drainage issues up there near that intersection and
we want to add a stop sign there to make the intersection a little safer. Is that fair to summarize.
Councilman Montesi-Yea. The intersection used to be kind of a curve, it really wasn’t a intersection now
it is a T intersection so there is a need for a stop sign.
Supervisor Stec-With that said the Public Hearing is open if there are any members of the public that
would like to comment on this public hearing regarding this stop sign at this intersection just raise your
hand.
Councilman Montesi-By the way the drainage work that we did took some pollutants out of the lake.
Supervisor Stec-We are not done up there but I know I was just happy that we had the weather to
cooperate with us that we have been able to get ahead on some of these things that we thought that we
would be putting off until after the spring runoff. So, it is good that we got them in place before the
winter. I will close the public hearing.
RESOLUTION ENACTING AMENDMENT TO ORDINANCE 28
ESTABLISHING THROUGH HIGHWAYS AND STOP INTERSECTIONS
IN THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY, COUNTY OF WARREN, NEW YORK
RESOLUTION NO. 407, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury has in effect Ordinance No. 28 - Ordinance Establishing
Through Highways and Stop Intersections in the Town of Queensbury, County of Warren, New York, and
this Ordinance lists the stop intersections and signs located within the Town of Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board wishes to consider amending Ordinance No. 28 by adding a stop
intersection at the intersection of Heron Hollow and Hillman Roads, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board duly conducted a public hearing concerning the proposed Amendment
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to Ordinance No. 28 on Monday, December 20, 2010 and the Town Board now wishes to enact the
Amendment to Ordinance No. 28,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby enacts the proposed Amendment to
Ordinance No. 28 presented at this meeting, and
BE IT FURTHER,
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RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the Queensbury Town Clerk to
enter the Amendment to Ordinance No. 28 in the minutes of this Town Board meeting, publish the
Amendment to Ordinance No. 28 (or a summary or abstract) once in the Glens Falls Post Star, file an
affidavit of the publication in the Town Clerk’s Office, and the Amendment to Ordinance No. 28 shall take
effect ten (10) days after publication.
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Duly adopted this 20 day of December, 2010, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough
NOES : None
ABSENT: Mr. Brewer
AMENDMENT TO TOWN OF QUEENSBURY ORDINANCE NO. 28
ESTABLISHING THROUGH HIGHWAYS AND STOP INTERSECTIONS IN
THE TOWN OF QUEENSBURY, COUNTY OF WARREN, NEW YORK
SECTION 1.
Ordinance No. 28 of the Town of Queensbury Establishing Through Highways and Stop
Intersections in the Town of Queensbury, County of Warren, State of New York, is hereby amended to add a
stop intersection as follows:
Stop sign(s) shall be erected to make a stop intersection at the intersection of Heron Hollow Road
and Hillman Road.
SECTION 2.
This Amendment shall take effect 10 days after its publication, posting and compliance with
§1683(a) of the Vehicle and Traffic Law.
3.0 PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR
Ms. Kathy Bozony-With the Office of the Lake George Waterkeeper
a. Uses Queensbury as a model for the Town of Bolton and the Town of Lake
George regarding regulations that protect Lake George – The Zoning and Planning Boards use these
regulations such as buffer shore lines and restrict fertilizer and pesticide use a condition of approval for
development and renovations for all properties within the CEA. This protects all the lakes and wetlands
in Queensbury.
b. The Waterkeeper continues to promote rain gardens, shoreline buffering and
restriction of fertilizer and pesticides.
c. Working with homeowners on Assembly Point to improve water quality
without waiting for imposed regulations.
d. Stormwater runoff was address by the Town Board – Hillman Road
e. All towns around Lake George need to address stormwater runoff
f. Assembly Point-road slants to lake and homeowners are not keeping runoff
on their property (photos presented showing runoff) Spoke to homeowner group to buffer the steep
bank. Asked the Town to look into ways to redirect the flow of stormwater away from the lake.
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Councilman Metivier-spoke on banning fertilizers – suggested signage in the area such as
Chemical Free Zone noted it is not just Lake George that has the problems but Glen Lake and Lake
Sunnyside
g. Chemical use around the lake – dangerous
Councilman Montesi-If we take the water off from Assembly Point Road where would it be
placed? That is a problem Spoke on use of porous pavement…
Supervisor Stec-In the process of a map, plan and report for a septic management district on
Rockhurst … at tonights meeting we will be authorizing a map, plan and report for Glen Lake Aquatic
Plant District. There is a similar project in the works for Lake Sunnyside. Need to look at the big picture;
we will take care of what we can in Queensbury.
h. I appreciation what Queensbury is doing and you are a model.
Councilman Strough-We want to thank you also, you have inspired the law that I drafted that is
before Counsel on dealing with pesticides and fertilizer restrictions.
Mr. Ed Petrush- 36 Pershing Road-Queensbury re: Dixon Road Development
a. Definition of Duplex in singular connation it means one building or structure
comprised of two separate units – there are seven units planned or had building permits issued - why is
this different
b. Definition of Commercial, viewed with regard to profit, as per Webster’s
dictionary as per town code any commercial properties requires a full site plan review. – It is seven
buildings with fourteen apartments owned by the same corporation for profit does not considered
commercial you need to talk to Webster’s dictionary.
c. Definition of Cluster Webster dictionary a number of similar things a person
collected or grouped closely together – clusters are definitely prohibited without site plan review or
prohibited as per zoning chapter 179 sections -3-0400 clusters is not a permeable use.
d. Asked for a response – Hayes and Hayes has shown their lack of
consideration for the Town Zoning Laws
e. Ltr. Oct. 26, 2010 to Hayes and Hayes which no site plan review is permitted
for the improper clearing of more land…questioned if a site plan review has been filed? If it hasn’t it was
supposed to have a summons to appear in Court for that.- What is status.
Supervisor Stec-This issue is pending in front of the ZBA. Some of the concerns that you have
will be addressed as the Town makes amendments to the Zoning Code – public hearing on 1-24-2011-
that will require in the future that in a neighborhood residential zone any duplex will require in the
future site plan review.- Craig Brown has instructed the Hayes that because they have disturbed more
land than the code allows they have to go to site plan review. (they have applied)
Ms. Leesa Adamson-RE: Stormwater runoff Assembly Point Road Concerned about the Southern Basin
a. Could the Board send a team of engineers up to assess the road on Assembly
Point and evaluate the tilt and infiltration needs?
b. Is it the Town or individuals that are responsible for the shore line the 90%
shorelines? (Supervisor Stec-If it is private property if it is not in the town right of way we would not be
planting rain gardens) (Councilman Metivier-the private owners have land across the road to their docks
we would have to look at deeds to find out where these docks are allowed and where the town roads
and right of ways are)
c. Would the Board support legislation or signage this is a Chemical Free Zone?
Councilman Metivier-We can work on that.
d. If the north end of Assembly Point Road was filled in from yellow railing is
from Shore Colony north, my understanding there are a number of people who live there that would go
along with that, the holdup is a small segment, that the Town would have to plow and back the truck
out of-is that enough of an issue to hold this up?
e. Re: wetlands grant – be extended to the culvert issue on Bay Parkway?
Councilman Montesi-Spoke about Soil and Water worked with Army Corp. of Engineers five different
project around Warren County – looked at as a test sample-Airport is one example – We can look at
adding to the list if possible…still an issue with hard rock and where to put the water
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Councilman Metivier-Suggested Vision Eng. Look at the project, noted it should be done when it is
raining.
f. Assembly Point Road -Safety on the road and no guard rail is a big issue
(presented photos)
Mr. John Salvador- a. Duplex-is not a landuse, duplex is part of construction- our code is confusing
b. The rental of apartments is a commercial use they would need a use variance
c. North Qsby. Fire Co. have refused to supply me with details related to
sources of past transfer from the volunteer fire company to the fire fighters service corp.
d. re: No. Qsby Fire Co. – Audit firm is auditing and preparing the audit
statement and 9-90’s this a conflict of interest
Supervisor Stec-Turned your letter over to Town Counsel and Barbara Tierney for their
comments
e.Re: No. Qsby. Rescue Squad – servicing Fort Ann – with no compensation
Supervisor Stec-The Town has a with the Rescue Squad to provide us a service - we have asked
that they pursue a with Fort Ann Towns are required to provide fire protection in New York State,
Towns are not required to provide EMS services.
Councilman Montesi-Did talk to an Attorney for Fort Ann asked if they were aware that we are
providing a service? They said no. That attorney suggested that both Supervisor’s should get some
dialog going on it.
Supervisor Stec-I will contact the Fort Ann Supervisor after the first of the year on this.
4.0 RESOLUTIONS
RESOLUTION REAPPOINTING STEVE LOVERING, PARKS AND
RECREATION DIRECTOR, TO WARREN COUNTY YOUTH BOARD
RESOLUTION NO.: 408, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. John Strough WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
WHEREAS, Warren County Youth Board is an organization that includes community volunteers,
youth and public officials who review local and countywide youth needs and issues, advocate for
programs and services to meet the needs of all county youth up to age 21, advise Warren County on
programs to be funded with State funds and help frame funding decisions, and
WHEREAS, the Warren County Youth Board members are appointed by the Warren County
Board of Supervisors and each municipality, including the Town of Queensbury, may select its member,
and
WHEREAS, by prior Resolution the Queensbury Town Board appointed Steve Lovering, the
Town Parks and Recreation Director, to the Warren County Youth Board and Mr. Lovering’s
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appointment will expire on December 31, 2010,
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board wishes to reappoint Steve Lovering as a member of the
Warren County Youth Board,
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NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby reappoints Steve Lovering, the Town of
Queensbury’s Parks and Recreation Director, to serve as a member of the Warren County Youth Board
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with such term to expire as of December 31, 2011, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor to forward a
certified copy of this Resolution with any other needed documentation to the Warren County Youth
Bureau and take such other and further action as may be necessary to effectuate the terms of this
Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 20 day of December, 2010, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough
NOES : None
ABSENT : Mr. Brewer
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING APPLICATION FOR FUNDS FROM
NEW YORK STATE OFFICE OF CHILDREN & FAMILY SERVICES
RESOLUTION NO.: 409, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. John Strough WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury’s Accountant has advised the Town Board that the Town is
eligible to apply for reimbursement funds from the New York State Office of Children & Family Services
(NYS OCFS) relating to the support of the Warren County Youth Court, and
WHEREAS, the Town’s Accountant has requested Town Board authorization to prepare a fund
application in the amount of $3,500 of the total amount of support proposed for the Warren County Youth
Court in 2011,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the Town’s
Accountant to prepare the application for Youth Development/Delinquency Prevention Youth Services Funds
from the New York State Office of Children and Family Services and further authorizes and directs the Town
Supervisor, Town Budget Officer and/or Accountant to execute the funding application and take any other
action necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 20 day of December, 2010, by the following vote:
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AYES: Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Stec
NOES: None
ABSENT: Mr. Brewer
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING INTERMUNICIPAL AGREEMENT
WITH WARREN COUNTY CONCERNING
PROVISION OF COUNTY GIS SERVICES
RESOLUTION NO.: 410, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
WHEREAS, the Warren County Board of Supervisors adopted Resolution No.: 475 of 2009
authorizing the County to enter into an Agreement with various municipalities, including the Town of
Queensbury, for the provision of County GIS services, and
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board feels that such services will benefit Town residents and
therefore wishes to authorize an Intermunicipal Agreement concerning such services, and
WHEREAS, an Intermunicipal Agreement with Warren County such GIS services has been
presented at this meeting and is in form acceptable to Town Counsel,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby authorizes the Intermunicipal Agreement
with Warren County concerning the provision of County GIS services substantially the form presented at this
meeting, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor to execute
such Intermunicipal Agreement and the Town Supervisor and Town Budget Officer to take such other and
further action necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 20 day of December, 2010, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier
NOES : None
ABSENT: Mr. Brewer
RESOLUTION APPROPRIATING MONIES TO PAY COST OF
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PREPARING MAP, PLAN AND REPORT FOR PROVIDING
AQUATIC PLANT GROWTH CONTROL SERVICES WITHIN
PROPOSED GLEN LAKE AQUATIC PLANT
GROWTH CONTROL DISTRICT
RESOLUTION NO.: 411, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board (the "Board") is considering forming the Glen
Lake Aquatic Plant Growth Control District (the "District") in accordance with Article 12-A of
New York Town Law for the purpose of eradicating milfoil and other non-native, invasive
aquatic plant species from Glen Lake, and
WHEREAS, the Glen Lake Protective Association, on behalf of its members, has
requested that the Town Board form such a District,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that, subject to permissive referendum as provided below, the Queensbury
Town Board hereby appropriates the sum not to exceed $15,000 to pay the cost of preparing a
general Map, Plan and Report for providing aquatic plant growth control services in the portion
of the Town of Queensbury where the District is proposed to be established, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that if the Town Board establishes the District and s for the required
services, the expense incurred by the Town for the preparation of the Map, Plan and Report shall
be deemed to be part of the cost of the services and the Town shall be reimbursed for the amount
paid or such portion of that amount which the Town Board, at a public hearing, allocates against
the District, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the Town Engineer, or
such other engineer as the Town Supervisor shall choose, to prepare such a Map, Plan and
Report within the limits of the amount appropriated therefore, and upon completion thereof to
file the Map, Plan and Report in the Queensbury Town Clerk’s Office, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that this Resolution shall be subject to permissive referendum in
accordance with New York Town Law Article 7 and shall not take effect until such time as
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provided therein, and the Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to post and
publish the notice required for Resolutions subject to permissive referendum.
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Duly adopted this 20 day of December, 2010 by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Strough, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi
NOES : None
ABSENT: Mr. Brewer
RESOLUTION AWARDING BID FOR SODA ASH
RESOLUTION NO. 412, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury duly advertised for bids for Soda Ash in accordance with
Town Water Department Bid Specifications, and
WHEREAS, the Town’s Purchasing Agent, Water Superintendent and Water Engineer have
reviewed all received bids and recommended that the Town award the bid to the only, and therefore, lowest
responsible bidder,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby awards the bid for Soda Ash to Astro
Chemicals, Inc., in the amount of $.2335 per pound, to be paid from the appropriate Town Water Department
Account, and
BE IT FURTHER,
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RESOLVED, that such bid award shall be effective through December 31, 2011 with an option at
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such time to extend such bid award for a period of 12 months or through December 31, 2012, with any
extended bid award to be subject to the same terms and conditions of the original bid, with no surcharges,
add-ons or tariffs to be added, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor, Purchasing Agent,
Water Engineer, Water Superintendent and/or Town Budget Officer to take all actions necessary to effectuate
the terms of this Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 20 day of December, 2010, by the following vote:
AYES :Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough
NOES :None
ABSENT:Mr. Brewer
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CLOSURE OF SERVER UPGRADE PROJECT CAPITAL
PROJECT FUND #175
RESOLUTION NO.: 413, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
WHEREAS, in accordance with Resolution No.: 375,2009, the Queensbury Town Board
established the Server Upgrade Project Capital Project Fund #175, and
WHEREAS, the Town’s Technology Coordinator has advised that the Project is complete and the
Fund can be closed, and
WHEREAS, the Town’s accounting records show that there is approximately $960.08 remaining
in Capital Project Fund #175, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board wishes to close this Capital Project Fund and transfer the Fund’s
remaining fund balance back to Capital Reserve Account #64,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the Town Budget
Officer to close the Server upgrade Project Capital Project Fund #175 and transfer the Fund’s remaining
balance back to Capital Reserve Account #64, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Budget Officer,
Accountant and Technology Coordinator to take such other and further action as may be necessary to
effectuate all terms of this Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 20 day of December, 2010, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough
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NOES : None
ABSENT: Mr. Brewer
RESOLUTION APPROVING USE OF REVOLVING LOAN FUNDS TO BE REIMBURSED
FOR CASE #6241 IN CONNECTION WITH TOWN OF QUEENSBURY HOUSING
REHABILITATION PROGRAM
RESOLUTION NO.: 414, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
WHEREAS, by Resolution No.: 399,2010 the Queensbury Town Board determined a single family
property to be eligible for rehabilitation grant assistance and the owner of the property has requested
such assistance, and
WHEREAS, an on-site storage unit and/or dumpster for use by the property owner is required
before the rehabilitation specifications are to be sent out for bid to facilitate the bidding process, and
WHEREAS, the company(ies) providing such items must have payment upon delivery and cannot
accept purchase orders or any promissory form of payment other than checks or cash, and
WHEREAS, the property owner does not have the funds to pay for these items in advance of the
bid process and subsequent s, and
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury Revolving Loan Fund may be used for Community
Development related projects, and
WHEREAS, the Community Development Block Grant will be used to reimburse the Revolving
Loan Fund for the costs involved,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town of Queensbury hereby approves and authorizes use of the Revolving
Loan Fund for up to One Thousand Dollars and no cents ($1,000.00) for Case File #6241, Queensbury,
New York, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED that the Town Board authorizes and directs either the Town Supervisor, Senior
Planner or Accountant to take such further action as may be necessary to effectuate the terms of this
Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 20 day of December, 2010, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Stec
NOES: None
ABSENT: Mr. Brewer
RESOLUTION APPROVING AUDIT OF BILLS –
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WARRANT OF DECEMBER 21, 2010
RESOLUTION NO.: 415, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. John Strough WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board wishes to approve an audit of bills presented as a Warrant
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with a run date of December 16, 2010 and payment date of December 21, 2010,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby approves the Warrant with the run date of
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December 16, 2010 and payment date of December 21, 2010 totaling $1,077,367.09, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor and/or Town
Budget Officer to take such other and further action as may be necessary to effectuate the terms of this
Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 20 day of December, 2010, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier
NOES : None
ABSENT: Mr. Brewer
RESOLUTION SETTING PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED LOCAL
LAW NO. __ OF 2011 TO AMEND QUEENSBURY TOWN CODE
CHAPTER 179 “ZONING”
RESOLUTION NO.: 416, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
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WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board has proposed certain changes to the Town’s Zoning Code,
as detailed in drafts of revisions to Chapter 179, “Zoning,” of the Town Code presented at this Town Board
meeting, including proposed revisions to the Town’s Zoning Map and the Area and Use tables associated
with the Zoning Code (collectively, the “proposed zoning revisions”), and
WHEREAS, the Town Board wishes to consider adoption of a Local Law, to be designated “Local
Law No.: ___ of 2011,” to amend Queensbury Town Code Chapter 179 “Zoning,” including revisions to the
Town’s Zoning Map and the Area and Use tables associated with the Zoning Code, in accordance with the
proposed zoning revisions presented at this meeting, and
WHEREAS, in accordance with General Municipal Law §239-m, before enacting the proposed
zoning revisions the Town must first refer them to the Warren County Planning Board for its
recommendations, and
WHEREAS, in order for the Town’s Zoning Code to maintain its status as an approved local land
use plan under Adirondack Park Agency (APA) Act and APA regulations, the Town must obtain APA
approval of the proposed zoning revisions prior to adoption, and
WHEREAS, the proposed zoning revisions comply with the requirements of §807 of the APA Act
and 9 NYCRR Part 582 of APA regulations, and
WHEREAS, the proposed zoning revisions must undergo an environmental review pursuant to the
State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA) prior to adoption and enactment, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board wishes to be Lead Agency for the required SEQRA environmental
review and has prepared Part 1 of a Full Environmental Assessment Form (EAF)for use in the environmental
review, and
WHEREAS, Municipal Home Rule Law §20 requires the Town Board to hold a public hearing
prior to the adoption of any Local Law;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the Town Clerk or
Senior Planner to forward a copy of the proposed zoning revisions, together with a copy of the completed
Part 1 of the Full EAF, to the Warren County Planning Board for its review and recommendations, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby directs the Town Clerk or Senior Planner to formally
submit the proposed zoning revisions, together with a copy of the completed Part 1 of the Full EAF, to the
Adirondack Park Agency for review and approval in accordance with Article 27 of the Executive Law, §807,
and
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BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby declares its intention to be Lead Agency for
SEQRA review of the proposed zoning revisions and directs the Town Clerk or Senior Planner to send a copy
of the proposed zoning revisions, together with a copy of the completed Part 1 of the Full EAF, and a
certified copy of this Resolution stating the Town Board’s intention to be Lead Agency for SEQRA review,
to the Adirondack Park Agency and any other Involved Agencies as required by law, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board shall meet and hold a Public Hearing at the Queensbury
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Activities Center, 742 Bay Road, Queensbury at 7:00 p.m. on Monday, January 24, 2011 to hear all
interested persons concerning the proposed revisions to the Town’s Zoning Code and enactment of Local
Law No.: ___ of 2011 to Amend Queensbury Town Code Chapter 179 “Zoning,” and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to provide the
public with at least 10 days’ prior notice of the Public Hearing by causing a Notice of Public Hearing to be
timely published in the Town’s official newspaper and by posting the Notice of Public Hearing on the
Town’s web site and bulletin board at least 10 days before the date of the Public Hearing, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to send copies of the
Notice of Public Hearing, together with copies of the proposed zoning revisions, if required, to any public
officials, agencies or municipalities, in accordance with any applicable State Laws or Town Code provisions,
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to make a copy of
the proposed zoning revisions (including proposed revisions to the Town’s Zoning Map and the Area and
Use tables associated with the Zoning Code) available for public inspection during regular business hours of
the Clerk’s office, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor, Senior Planner,
Town Clerk and/or Town Counsel to take such other actions and give such other notice as may be necessary
in preparation for the Town Board to lawfully adopt proposed Local Law No.___ of 2011.
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Duly adopted this 20 day of December, 2010, by the following vote:
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AYES : Mr. Strough, Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi
NOES : None
ABSENT: Mr. Brewer
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING PURCHASE OF 2011 F-250 PICK-UP
TRUCK FOR USE BY TOWN LANDFILL DEPARTMENT
RESOLUTION NO.: 417, 2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Anthony Metivier
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury’s Landfill Equipment Operator has requested Town Board
approval to purchase a 2011 F-250 Pick-Up Truck for use by the Town Landfill Department, and
WHEREAS, there are sufficient funds in the Town 2010 Budget for such proposed vehicle
purchase, and
WHEREAS, New York State Bidding is not required as the purchase is under New York State No.:
PC21910,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby approves of the Landfill Equipment
Operator’s purchase of a 2011 F-250 Pick-Up Truck from Van Bortel Ford, Inc., in accordance with New
York State # PC21910, for an amount not to exceed $20,166.68, plus additional, approximate amounts as
follows:
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$4,600 for purchase and installation of an 8’ snow plow;
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$80.75 for the snow plow package (to maintain factory warranty); and
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$265 for delivery;
to be paid for from Account No.: 009-8160-2020, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Budget Officer to amend
the 2010 Town budget by transferring $26,000 from Trash Burnables Account No.: 009-8160-4447 to
Vehicles Account No.: 009-8160-2020, and
BE IT FURTHER,
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RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor, Landfill
Equipment Operator and/or Budget Officer to take such other and further action as may be necessary to
effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 20 day of December, 2010, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Stec, Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough
NOES : None
ABSENT: Mr. Brewer
5.0 COMMUNICATIONS
NONE
6.0 TOWN BOARD DISCUSSIONS
WARD III JOHN STROUGH
A. Our New York State Home Program got audited by New York State Homes and
Community Renewal – we did quite well in terms of regulatory compliance, spending money appropriately
B. 2013 BiCentennial – Logo contest with all Warren County High Schools-
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thanked the Mayor of Glens Falls for giving us permission to hang the student logos from January 14
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through 28 at the Glens Falls Civic Center We were originally Albany County then divided up to become
Charlotte County in 1763; 1779 – became Washington County; 1813- became Warren County
WARD II RONALD MONTESI
A. Received a Christmas Present early his mother age 90 –will be visiting us in
Queensbury on Thursday - Merry Christmas to all
WARD I ANTHONY METIVIER
A. Congratulated West Mountain on their fifty years this year of being in operation
here in Queensbury. 100,000 skiers last year, payroll of a little over a million dollars and the largest user of
water in the Town of Queensbury I wish them the best.
B. Everyone have a very Merry Christmas and I look forward to a good 2011 for
the Town of Queensbury
SUPERVISOR DANIEL STEC
A. Thanked TV-8 and our sponsors for televising our Board Meetings
B. Town’s website www.queensbury.net noted it is about to get a face lift
C. Wished everyone a Very Happy Holiday Season and a very Merry Christmas
and a Happy New Year.
D. Next Meeting - January 3, 2011
E. 2010 a rough year for the Country better year for Warren County than 2009, for
Queensbury like Warren County our low point as far as the economy and revenues and sales tax and what not
goes hopefully was 2009 and 2010 started to see a slow recovery. Hopefully 2011 will be a little better. The
town had a lot of challenges, we got a lot done this year. If you look back we in 2010, and these are all things
that involved a lengthy process, I am glad that Craig Brown stuck it out with us, he is still here. We started
this term saying we wanted to get three things done this year and we almost got all three done, certainly
within fourteen months. We did our Subdivision Regulations, we re-did our Sign Regulations, and tonight
we set the public hearing and two months from now we will have a completed our amendment to not too long
ago adopted Zoning Ordinance. Those are three big documents, three very important governing documents
of how the Town looks. Certainly if there is one thing that I think most of us would agree is that if there is an
area that the Town governs that tends to bring our emotions and concerns and gets people to fill a room it
isn’t what the price of the transfer station is it isn’t the town budget it isn’t the water department or whether or
not our water is good, it isn’t our infrastructure is it falling apart and consent orders from the State to removal
a twelve million dollars worth of infrastructure that we have ignored for fifty years it is the stuff that is in the
Subdivision Regs the Sign Regs and the Zoning Code. That is because people care about their property they
care about their back yard and they care about what the community looks like as they should. Certainly in
my humble opinion if these are the things are most worried about in this town and you compare that to a lot
of other towns in our Country to worry about then if that is a measure of what are people talking about and
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what are they most concerned about and they are not worried about is the drinking water safe are they being
over run with illegal aliens that are bring drugs into the community and shooting up the place and there is
racial tension and all the other things that go on in this Country in this State. Queensbury’s biggest concern is
you know some of the things that we read about in the paper that have to do with the Zoning Code and
Subdivision Regs and the Sign Regs then that tells me that the Town is doing some things good. As John
pointed out we got a good thumbs up from the State on an audit, actually pretty much anytime anybody looks
at our operations they are complementary of it. We appreciate the complements that we got from the
Waterkeeper tonight. I have been meeting with APA people lately, I have been meeting with Soil and Water
people and they all have a lot of really good things to say about the effort that our staff does the effort from
the average guy, the laborer that is on the highway crew getting the job done all the way up to the folks in the
Clerk’s Office that are handling their money for them people are pretty complementary of the way things are
getting done here. I credit certainly the Town Staff and the Town Board so to kind of kick it home and bring
it to a close here and close out the last regular meeting of 2010. This is my seventh year a Town Supervisor it
is my eleventh year on the Town Board and if I was going to try to and I have said this at election time, the
last time around, I really did, I said that the five different Town Board’s that I have been on and now this is
my sixth, Although this Board is identical to the last one, and actually that was the first time that we had two
consecutive Boards that no member changed. I have been on five different sets of people that I think what
this Board has done has produced the most with the least amount of angst and with the least amount of
everyone up in arms and yelling and screaming about it in the Editorial page and the letter to the editor and
now that I have asked for one I will get one, but, it seems like we have been able to get things done. I credit
the Board for having a productive three years together now with the five of us together for three years. I think
to a person everyone tries to do the right thing and as I mentioned earlier we are not always going to agree.
We are going to have different hot button issues, we are going to have different interests, what we want to
focus on, we are going to have different perspectives where do you draw a line between what the neighbor
wants and what the property owners rights are. But, by enlarge I think that we have picked the can down the
road in the correct direction. We keep it between the forties as Craig Brown likes to use a football analogy.
We want to keep the ball between the forty yard lines but we do not want to get too extreme one way or the
other. I think that we are there, of course beauty is in the eye of the beholder if you are next door to
something that you do not like you are going to have a different opinion. Talking to people as much as I do I
think that people are appreciative of the work that you all do and certainly that our staff does, so I will take
this as an opportunity to thank the Town Board for some good work here, this year thanked Darleen an her
wonderful staff. We dumped a lot on Darleen this year, everything that we do goes one way or the other
through Darleen’s office so all these code changes and all the public notices and all the photo copying of table
ones and table fours that all goes thorough Darleen. Likewise Darleen had a big curve ball thrown at her in
August with the Village of East Lake George vote, and that was an awful lot of work for Darleen and her
staff. When Darleen got sucked into running around and taking care of all things village that means everyone
else in her office had to pick up getting water bills out on time, I mean Darleen you handled it like a pro I am
glad that you are covering the last meeting of the year. This year we through a lot at you as well I do not
know if everyone in the public really understands or appreciates that but I want you to know that I know that
we dumped a lot on your office and you got the credit cards done this year I know that is a big deal. We have
got a lot of Capital Projects going on in the Town right now. We are taking care of some environmental
issues at the Highway Dept. and new gas dispersing equipment it will be taken care of shortly next year. A
new roof on Town Hall and a new heating and cooling system at the Highway Dept. Our Cemeteries have
never looked so good, really this year Mike Genier and his staff did a lot. The Court has had some
excitement this year and again another year they are in the top twenty busy courts in the State of New York.
The Court is making money, our Water and Wastewater Dept. are doing good, we are gaining on some of the
issue that we have with the City. I meet regularly with Jack I prefer to be able to have these conversations
with Jack and not read about them in the paper. Of course I say that in front of Maury tomorrow he will be
calling me and Jack saying what are you guys been talking about lately? But, you know the relationship with
the City I think is on better footing than it was six months ago. I know that the couple of issues that we have
got out there I think we are fairly close to a resolution on. But let it runs its course Maury, the story will be
there you are the only game in town. We will get you. I think things are going well its it good to see that the
City had a good event the other night with the BYU Game the Home Town Classic, I was in attendance and it
was a packed house. I saw everybody that I knew there, it seemed, it was a nice community spirit there.
Certainly I will be rolling into an enhanced roll at the County next year, I am honored by that I am looking
forward to it. I think there is an advantage to the Town of Queensbury if for nothing else that the
communications will certainly improve because I will always know exactly what the Chairman is thinking as
Town Supervisor. I will be able to reach him at all hours of the day to ask him for assistance. So, I think it is
a benefit to the Town, it will be a little bit more work but I am looking forward to it and again I am honored
by the support of my fellow Supervisors both Republican and Democrat, from Stony Creek and North Creek
all the way to the City of Glens Falls and my fellow Queensbury Supervisors. The chance that they have
given me to lead take a more active role in the County government. I think that next year all of us are going
to be busier and a challenging year I think it is going to be a very good year for Queensbury. The only thing
that we do not control is the economy and we just keep our fingers crossed that the masters of the universe
that we have elected to serve in Washington and the masters of the universe that are running our economy
from Harvard and Yale get it right this time and don’t make it any worse than they did, than they have. If the
economy comes back as we all hope it is, I think 2011 will be a pretty good year for the Town and the County
and all the municipalities and the town. I thank the Board for supporting this certainly you know you guys
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have been supportive and I do not think I thought to do that, make that move if I did not have a rock solid
town board here that we do right now. So, I thank each and every one of you guys for making that a
possibility for me and the County. With that said Merry Christmas.
RESOLUTION ADJOURNING TOWN BOARD MEETING
RESOLUTION NO. 418.2010
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Ronald Montesi WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
RESOLVED,
that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns its Town Board Meeting by
the following vote.
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Duly adopted this 20 day of December, 2010 by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Metivier, Mr. Montesi, Mr. Strough, Mr. Stec
NOES: None
ABSENT: Mr. Brewer
Respectfully submitted,
Miss Darleen M. Dougher
Town Clerk-Queensbury