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MARCH 7, 2005 RES#134-148
7::05 P.M.
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT
SUPERVISOR DANIEL STEC
COUNCILMAN ROGER BOOR
COUNCILMAN THEODORE TURNER
COUNCILMAN JOHN STROUGH
COUNCILMAN TIM BREWER
TOWN COUNSEL
ROBERT HAFNER
TOWN OFFICIALS
WATER SUPERINTENDENT, RALPH VAN DUSEN
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, MARILYN RYBA
DIRECTOR OF PARKS & RECREATION, HARRY HANSEN
SENIOR PLANNER, STUART BAKER
PRESS
TV 8 - POST STAR
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCILMAN TIM BREWER
PUBLIC HEARINGS
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS THROUGH NEW YORK
STATE CITIES PROGRAM
OPENED 7:06 P.M.
NOTICE SHOWN
STUART BAKER, SENIOR PLANNER-The Town of Queensbury is looking at submitting a
grant a current competitive grant round to the Governor’s Office for Small Cities for their
Community Development Block Grant Program. As part of the application process the Town is
required to hold two public hearings tonight is the first of those. Tonight the purpose of the
public hearing is to do an introduction to the Community Development Grant Block Program and
New York States administration of it. To give a brief introduction to what we’re proposing for a
grant application then open it up to any questions or comments from the board or public. The
Community Development Block Grant Program is a federal program that provides funding for
housing and community development. It originates from a 1974 Federal Law the Housing and
Community Development Act, which authorized the programs developed. It’s administered in
Washington by the Department of Housing and Urban Development consisting of two programs.
An Entitlement Program that provides funding directly to urban areas such as the City of Glens
Falls. A Small Cities Program, which provides funds to smaller and more rural communities. In
New York State the Governors Office for Small Cities administers the CDBG Program for the
non-entitlement communities. This year in New York State there is about fifty two million
dollars available through the Small Cities Program this is for non-entitlement communities,
which means that we will be competing with about three hundred other communities statewide
for funding. Fewer than one hundred applications are funded each year of that fifty two million
about sixty percent of that money is set aside for housing public facilities or micro-enterprise
type programs. Thirty-five percent is for economic development programs. Five percent is used
for imminent threat, administration and technical assistant programs. This application round
we’re applying to is for housing public facilities, micro-enterprise, and comprehensive grants.
Nationwide there are nine national objectives, which the State then uses to set their proprieties
for each year. The New York State Small Cities Program objectives this year are to continue to
support a mix of rehabilitation, conversion, and construction activities, to preserve and increase
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affordable housing both for renters and owners. Encourage and assist local governments to
develop comprehensive economic development strategies. Encourage and assist local
governments to develop comprehensive public facilities improvement strategies. Develop and
implement strategies, which facilitate coordinating using Community Development Block Grant
Funds with other federal state and local community development resources. As, I stated there
are four types of grants in the CDBG program. Housing, public facilities, and micro-enterprise,
and comprehensive projects. Housing programs consist of housing rehabilitation, new
construction of affordable housing, direct homeowners assistance, and private water and
wastewater system assistance. Again, the purpose the Community Development Block Grant
Program is to assist low and moderate-income household so all of these programs need to meet
that criteria. Public facilities activities consist of but aren’t limited to such things as water source
and distribution, wastewater collection and treatment flood control, storm water drainage and
other types of public works. Micro-enterprise is activities for projects supporting new or
expanded micro-enterprises, which are businesses encompassing five or fewer employees.
Comprehensive projects are basically larger projects that combine any of the previous three.
Community Development Block Grant Funds must use at least seventy percent of the money
they receive to assist and benefit persons of low and moderate income. Town of Queensbury did
receive twenty five thousand dollars in technical assistance Community Development Block
Grant Funding in 2003, which we used to develop our affordable housing strategy. The 2005
application we’re proposing is going to be following the recommendations of that strategy and
it’s actually a follow-up to a 2004 application that we made which was not funded. We intend to
apply for the maximum of four hundred thousand dollars in 2005 to do rehabilitation work on
approximately twenty housing units. Our target areas are going to be South Queensbury and
West Glens Falls. We’ve identified those areas because according to the census statistics those
are the areas of Town the census block areas of Town that do have the highest population of low
and moderate income people. The Deputy Director of the Governor’s Office for Small Cities is
very familiar with our program he did tour our community including our target areas in 2004
before that application. Community Development staff as well as Shelter Planning and
Development staff also went down to Albany and met with the Deputy Director and his staff to
talk about our 2004 application and what we can do to improve it. Our plan for the 2005
application is to follow their recommendations Shelter Planning and Development is doing the
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revisions on that application for us and we plan on submitting that to Albany by April 4. As, I
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said this is the first of two public hearings the second public hearing is scheduled for March 22;
at that time I’ll be presenting more specific details on what exactly our application will be. At
this point I would welcome any questions or comments from the board and public.
SUPERVISOR STEC- I will declare the public hearing opened. At this point is there any
member of the Town Board that would like to ask any questions before we solicit the public?
Any members from the public that would like to comment on this Community Development
Block Grant Application?
MR. BAKER, SENIOR PLANNER-We do have a handout up here as well which has additional
information about the program.
SUPERVISOR STEC-That’s what you gave to the Town Board tonight as well?
MR. BAKER, SENIOR PLANNER-That’s correct.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Any members of the public that would like to comment? Two separate
public hearings.
MR. BAKER, SENIOR PLANNER-That’s correct.
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SUPERVISOR STEC-The second one you said is March 22?
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MR. BAKER, SENIOR PLANNER-March 21.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Two weeks from tonight’s will be the second separate public hearing?
MR. BAKER, SENIOR PLANNER-That’s correct.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Is there any members from the public we do have a good size audience
tonight don’t be bashful if anyone wants to comment on the Community Development Block
Grant Application public hearing. I will close the public hearing.
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PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
CORRESPONDENCE
NONE
WARREN COUNTY SUPERVISOR REPORT – MICHAEL BARODY
Mr. Barody spoke to the board regarding the following. Airport Committee: Met recently
discussions held regarding the new storage hanger. Project is moving forward now working on
financing to develop the site so there is room for expansion. B-17 will be coming to the Airport
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sometime between August 19 and August 22 trying to finalize date. Trying to turn this into an
event make it more into a family day. Looking for suggestions that people might have to expand
the program to make it a fuller day and experience. Solid Waste Joint Committee Meeting:
There is a piece of land in Washington County and Hartford that we have a lien on with
Washington County. It is approximately seven hundred acres some of which are not usable
because of wetlands. Development Agreement with Washington County went into this
agreement years ago to possibly look at using this as a landfill in the future. Hartford has
established a Local Law forbidding any landfills on this property we are being approached by a
developer that is looking to convert the site into a construction and demolition landfill. Whoever
proceeds with this project will have to jump through hoops with DEC they know that. There
may be an opportunity as a County to get 1.6 million of our dollars that we have invested in over
there back. The discussion is since we banked that land we thought that maybe it could be a
landfill one day. Since we can’t make it a landfill should we look at and entertain offers to sell
the property and get our money back no decision has been made at this time. Warren County
Economic Development Committee: Would like to fold our efforts in with the Town of
Queensbury noting he is very supportive of this. They are outlining goals for 2005 some of the
main ones are. Follow through with Exit 18. Queensbury Industrial Park working on the
infrastructure and the improvements. Working towards bringing the army there so that we can
have the infrastructure and improvements. The North Creek Ski Bowl is a big project. Warren
County Airport they are working to try to secure noting they have received a promise from
Congressman Sweeney, but they will be doing the follow-up work to make sure we secure FAA
monies for the study that we need for the lengthening of the runway so that we can get some of
the bigger planes that want to come in and out. They are coming in and out now during perfect
weather, but from a safety standpoint they would come in more assuredly if we are having bad
weather with a little more length on the runway. Creating an Aviation Technical Park on some
of the lands over there is something they are working on They are working with the Queensbury
Planning Department on the Carey Industrial Park. Spoke to the board regarding the Memorial
Day Parade because there has been a lot of talk regarding the Civil War Monument this year
someone thought it might appropriate if we had someone read the history of TAPS where it came
from. Councilman Brewer it may be a theme for the Essay Contest this year. Meeting to be
held on the thirtieth at four o’clock at City Hall. Tourism Committee: Meeting held today met
with the hotel/motel owners regarding tourism, occupancy tax. Looking for feedback from the
public or Town Board regarding this. As they move forward trying to conceptualize how we
want to best integrate input from the public as they work with us to spend the occupancy tax and
what criteria should the occupancy tax be spent? Presented to board March through July Warren
County Events Calendar.
INTRODUCTION OF RESOLUTIONS FROM THE FLOOR
RESOLUTION NO. 134, 2005 (RESCINDED)
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Roger Boor
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
COUNCILMAN BOOR-I’m going to ask Town Counsel to draft a resolution to rescind the
rezoning for the property known as the Glens Falls Watershed from PR-10 to PR-42. If I could
get a second, I’d just like to give a brief explanation of why I think that would be an appropriate
move on the boards part.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Is there a second?
COUNCILMAN STROUGH-I’ll second it for discussion.
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COUNCILMAN BOOR-Very difficult situation clearly for any of you that have been involved
in litigation it is inappropriate and probably not wise to talk about specifics of a case before it
goes to court. In this instance it wouldn’t be possible for me to talk about specifics because I
have yet to see the action or the lawsuit. My understanding is that the Town was served on the
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twenty-fifth of last month. As of today at twelve o’clock and today is March 7, I still have not
received a copy of what I believe is a forty-five page lawsuit. This is troubling for a lot of
obvious reasons. Number one, I have to assume that myself and the other four members of this
board are named in this lawsuit and yet I have not seen it. I made a request of Counsel at our last
meeting a week ago, as did Councilman Brewer and Strough that we wanted copies of it we have
still not received it or if we have it must have come after one o’clock today. I’ve been on record
for months or several months anyway that should Glens Falls go to litigation that I would not
support Queensbury taxpayers footing the bill for this lawsuit. I have a little bit of empathy for
Glens Falls taxpayers also. We haven’t done as much as we could outside of the courts to rectify
and possibly come to an agreement with Glens Falls on this. Having said that, I would not want
to give the impression that I would not having perhaps had discussions with them come away
with the thought that in fact they weren’t willing to work with us and I thought maybe their
requests or their concerns were unreasonable, I would not have a problem perhaps revisiting the
rezoning. I think court and taxpayer dollars should be the last avenue I don’t think we’ve begun
to have the types of discussions or exhausted the types of resources that we could apply to
perhaps settling this issue without spending large amounts of taxpayer dollars. Again, it’s
troubling that being named in a suit and almost two weeks later not being able to read the suit,
can you speak to that Bob why is that the case?
TOWN COUNSEL HAFNER-I thought you had received a copy. I didn’t know no one told me
you hadn’t received it I’ll make sure you get one tomorrow.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-You understand my concern that when you are sued it would be nice to
be in possession of the lawsuit and now its two weeks later and still don’t have copies of it.
TOWN COUNSEL HAFNER-It’s ten days since we were served.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Okay ten days then since this board was served not you. This board
was the entity that’s being sued I believe the actions of this board.
TOWN COUNSEL HAFNER-It’s the Town that was sued.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Our actions correct?
TOWN COUNSEL HAFNER-It’s not you individually it’s the Town Board.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-It’s the Town Board, right. These five individuals sitting are being
sued as the Town Board and yet none of us have seen this lawsuit.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Roger it’s unfair to and I don’t want to get into a debate about it but
it’s unfair to sit here and say that you won’t defend something you haven’t seen, how can you
make that decision? On the other hand if you were so concerned about it why did you wait ten
days to ask for a copy of it that’s unfair.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Tim I asked.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-You asked once.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Tim I’ve asked more than that.
TOWN COUNSEL HAFNER-Roger we have been asked once. It’s been filed with the Town
Clerk’s Office since the twenty-fifth.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Okay.
TOWN COUNSEL HAFNER-If you had let me know that you hadn’t received it we would of
gladly made a copy of it.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-When did it get sent out Bob when was it sent?
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TOWN COUNSEL HAFNER-I said that, I thought you had received it. Obviously you haven’t
gotten it we will make sure you get one. If you had even given me the courtesy of a call saying
you hadn’t gotten it we would of made sure you got it.
SUPERVISOR STEC-The only thing, I want to add because I think the rest of it would not be
appropriate for public discussion is that we were served with this late Friday afternoon and
Monday night a week ago today we did have a meeting. The Town Board did agree that we were
going to wait until tonight’s meeting to be briefed before we made any decision so I think this
whole discussion is premature.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Actually that’s not true Dan because I have e-mail where you said that
we would have the meeting on the twenty-first of this month and when John Strough said that the
statue would of passed when we could defend this you scheduled this meeting.
SUPERVISOR STEC-That’s not true.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Well, I can produce that e-mail.
SUPERVISOR STEC-That’s fine and produce the subsequent e-mail that told you both to check
that the litigation meeting that we’re going to have updating the Town on all litigation would be
for the twenty-first, but we were going to talk about this specific one this evening. That’s
exactly what the e-mail that I sent last week to clarify.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-I will be happy to give that e-mail to anybody that would be interested
in reading it. The simple fact of the matter is I’m not comfortable with how we’ve handled this.
I don’t think Glens Falls has handled it particularly well either but, I don’t think the ultimate
solution is suing each other and spending taxpayer dollars it’s a lose-lose. When our Attorney or
their Attorney says we can win this case, I’m not really sure what that means. Who ultimately
wins, we all lose. We’re suppose to be fostering an environment intermunicipal cooperation and
yet our neighbor who provides lots of services and we provide for them here we are in court over
something quite frankly, I think we don’t need to be there for. I know that three board members
here have made it very clear that they would like to pursue this lawsuit and that’s fine. I think
that’s your decision and you are an elected official and I respect that decision. I think, I am also
an elected official and I think it’s important to me that my constituents understand how I feel on
this issue. I think we can do a better job working with Glens Falls and I don’t think we should
handle these types of issues in court until that’s the last and only remedy.
SUPERVISOR STEC-I agree except that I think it’s the Town’s responsibility to make sure that
we keep all of our options open to the maximum extent possible, which means that if we need to
file something in the next few weeks to say that we intend to defend ourselves. I would also
disagree whole heartily with your characterization that the Town hasn’t handled itself or the
whole thing properly or very well. This is an action that was taken three months ago and we
went through extra pains to make sure people were notified and I can assure you that people
were notified. We’ve done everything correct and I think that we would be foolish to discuss it
any further until we are briefed by our Attorney, which was the original plan for this evening.
We’ve had a motion and a second the action on this will take place under 8.0 so we won’t act on
this right now.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-I would insist that we vote on it.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-We will vote on it.
SUPERVISOR STEC-We are going to vote on it under 8.0 at the end.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-We have a resolution from the floor and a second.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Our resolution says, 8.0 actions. We will vote on it when I say we’ll vote
on it, which will be following the rest of the resolutions.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Fine, fine. What number will this be?
SUPERVISOR STEC-8.1, it will be the thirteenth resolution.
TOWN COUNSEL HAFNER-Can I just interject to clarify a couple of points?
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SUPERVISOR STEC-Sure.
TOWN COUNSEL HAFNER-One thing when the suit was filed it had a court date of March 24,
I believe. We have talked with the City of Glens Falls Attorney we’re going to work out a
schedule that’s longer than that so the Town Board has more time then when we talked with you
a week ago.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Which, was what I was trying to say before the meeting started.
TOWN COUNSEL HAFNER-We do not have to prepare any response before the twenty-fourth.
If you wanted to wait to the twenty-first to discuss this when my partner Mark Schachner will be
talking with you about all litigation matters that is something that you could do.
SUPERVISOR STEC-That’s fine. We are going to need that resolution number thirteen for
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tonight Bob rescinding whatever resolution it was of November 1, 2004.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-What do you mean Dan?
SUPERVISOR STEC-There is a motion on the floor unless somebody wants to withdraw the
motion or the second. We are going to need to vote on something tonight Bob. I’m not sure how
much detail you are going to need between now and then.
TOWN COUNSEL HAFNER-The process for rescinding is not just a simple resolution
rescinding. I mean you changed the zoning you went through a process to change to the zoning.
Rescinding will be going through the process to change the zoning back to what it was.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Would you do that for tonight?
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Tonight?
TOWN COUNSEL HAFNER-What you have to do is first you have to have the language then
you have to have a resolution setting the public hearing.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-That’s what I’m asking for. I would like to start the process of
rescinding and we get to vote yes or no on it in 8.13.
TOWN COUNSEL HAFNER-What, I would recommend is if that’s what you want to do you
authorize us to come back with the resolution to start the process at your next meeting that way
we would have time.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-But, we would vote on that tonight.
TOWN COUNSEL HAFNER-You can vote on the resolution directing us to prepare the
resolution to start the process for your next meeting you can vote on that tonight.
SUPERVISOR STEC-For what is likely going to happen tonight that will suffice.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-All in all you really need to think about this.
SUPERVISOR STEC-I was going to say it’s hard to put something together like this at seven
o’clock.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Actually it’s pretty easy, but I understand your position.
OPEN FORUM
SUPERVISOR STEC-Spoke to the public regarding the reval of the Town of Queensbury noting
the Assessors Office mailed out letters on Friday with detail instructions regarding the grieving
process. Bob Keenan, IT Director put it on the Town’s Website, www.queensbury.net there is a
link to Assessment Information. You may look up the data on this website by putting in a tax
map number or an address. The tax roll is available at the Assessors Office area in the Town
Hall. The Town did go from an assessment of roughly one billion eight hundred and fifty
million to two billion nine hundred and fifty million. It went up by one point one billion dollars
or fifty three percent noting it does not mean that taxes will go up fifty three percent. The tax
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rate will come down because it will be offset by a much larger total assessed value in the Town.
There will be an opportunity to speak on the specifics issues with the Assessor Office.
PAUL H. NAYLOR, DIVISION ROAD, QUEENSBURY-Noted his Corinth Road taxes went
up his Division Road taxes went down. Asked the board to be nicer to each other.
BETTY MONAHAN-Lake Sunnyside. Spoke to the board regarding the lawsuit of City of
Glens Falls noted she was not happy when she read the article in the newspaper. Is disappointed
the Town is going to engage in a lawsuit with the City over the rezoning. This will result in a
tremendous bill for the taxpayers of the City and Town noted for what reason. The rezoning
accomplishes no good purpose no defensible purpose for the citizens of this Town. It will
generate a great deal of bad feelings between the people of Glens Falls and the people of the
Town of Queensbury. Spoke to the board regarding her concern about the ethical issues noting
according to the Post Star the Supervisor and Marilyn Ryba met with the Mayor no other
members of the Town Board were at that meeting. It is not within the perimeters of your job to
set Town policy. It is within the perimeters of the Town Boards job to set Town Board policy.
SUPERVISOR STEC-This is not true.
MRS. MONAHAN-Was any Town Board member at that meeting?
SUPERVISOR STEC-Noted he meets with the Mayor of Glens Falls frequently through the
course of his duties. The meeting that, I assume you are talking about is one that the City of
Glens Falls asked for not to talk about this rezoning. It was to ask about joining us in an attempt
to jointly submit an application for a grant that has to do with quality communities that’s why
Marilyn Ryba was there the purpose of the meeting had nothing to do with rezoning.
MRS. MONAHAN-That’s not what was in the paper.
SUPERVISOR STEC-I do not write the paper.
MRS. MONAHAN-Wonders about the actions when you worry about the rights of a property
owner but, when you work with the City of Glens Falls and you don’t worry about their property
rights noting she would like to see consistency here that the City of Glens Falls not be treated
differently. Has a problem with the firm of Attorney’s that’s given you the pros and cons of this
lawsuit being also the ones that will be getting extra pay if this lawsuit goes to court. Thinks it is
a conflict of interest does not think it is ethical. When we look at this rezoning look at our
Master Plan that talked about cooperation between the Town and adjoining communities we’re
not following it. Asking Queensbury to live up to the position in this region. You are a class one
Town would like to see you act like class one government for the Town. Take a leadership role
and treat our surrounding communities with the dignity and the consideration that they should be
treated with.
SUPERVISOR STEC-For the record couldn’t disagree with the characterizations that you made
more noted he is disappointed.
KATHLEEN SALVADOR-Spoke to the board regarding the occupancy tax. Believes the
occupancy tax was set up to advertise for new business, new visitors coming to this area not to
bail out a project that has ended up in the red. This is what we need; we need new visitors
coming to this area. We need the repeat business and they will bring a little bit of new business
also. Thinks they have to go further with the advertising. Noted her support for the Airplane
event that is going to be held at the Airport recommended brining antique airplanes to go along
with the B-17 plane that is coming in.
SUPERVISOR STEC-They were talking about trying to attract an antique car show to the B-17
event.
JOHN SALVADOR-Last week noted he spoke to the board regarding some of the abuses that
are going on in the forest preserve in North Queensbury. Spoke to the board regarding an article
from the April issue of Adirondack Life to the board regarding a scandal at the Great Sacandoga;
the scandal deals with the State leasing the forest preserve. Read a prepared statement to the
board regarding filing of a motion in the Appellate Division Third Department of New York
State Supreme Court seeking permission to pursuing an action against the State of New York
including the Department of Environmental Conservation for allowing commercial activity on
the peoples land in the state forest preserve.
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PLINEY TUCKER-Asked the status of the land near the Water Treatment Plant regarding
Niagara Mohawk?
TOWN COUNSEL-The person from Niagara Mohawk left a message saying that Niagara
Mohawk has gotten their internal approvals and that they would be moving forward with the
transfers soon noting he will continue to work on this.
MR. TUCKER-Asked the status of AMG? Asked if the Town will be getting any money back?
TOWN COUNSEL, HAFNER-They have gone through the sentencing they have not done any
collecting. They are working on collecting and if they do the different creditors of AMG will get
their share noting the Town is one.
MR. TUCKER-Asked if anyone has gone to jail regarding this?
TOWN COUNSEL, HAFNER-Thinks they have been sentenced doesn’t know exactly if they
have been incarcerated.
MR. TUCKER-Asked if the board could find out?
SUPERVISOR STEC-I will.
SENIOR PLANNER, MR. BAKER-Correction himself on his presentation noting the target area
for the 2005 CBDG application will be West Glens Falls only. South Queensbury is currently
included in our home program housing rehabilitation project. It is also included in our
application that was recently submitted to the Affordable Housing Corporation. Anyone from
the public who is interested in this or has questions about the Town’s affordable housing
programs current or proposed is welcome to give him at call at 761-8222.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Asked what is the turn around for the applications?
SENIOR PLANNER, MR. BAKER-The Affordable Housing Corporation they have a reputation
for relatively rapid turnaround, which may mean a couple of months. Community Development
Block Grant you typically don’t hear until September or October after an April submittal
deadline.
MR. BARODY, SURCINGLE ROAD-Spoke to the board regarding the Reval. The board has
pull with their State Assembly Leader and Senate Representative this law and the way it is
currently administered is a problem in the State and is creating many problems for the residents.
Thinks when they went to market numbers back in the eighties believes this is what sent us in the
wrong direction and gave us the skewed situation. We are currently in a real estate market
bubble, which has been good for a lot of people. We also are in a situation where we have the
lowest interest rates that we’ve had in decades noting they are heading in the other direction.
Spoke to the board regarding Glen Lake and their assessment noted his concern for the senior
citizens on the lake. The biggest impact is on the seniors need to have a law where they cap the
maximum rate increase people receive when they are residing in their homes. If their home turns
over, given to the children or is sold on the market he can see it going back up to the market cap.
When people are residing in these houses for a long period of time doesn’t think they should get
this type of sticker shock just to maintain their homes.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Spoke to the board having lived in California for eighteen years they
have in that State what’s called Prop 13, which essentially caps the cost of homes at 1977 they
chose that year. Anything built after that fluctuated, but anything prior to that stayed at that
value in 1977, it work quite well there were some issues with education. We are facing some of
the types of situations that you would normally associate with much more affluent west coast
types of situations.
MR. BARODY-Need to get some momentum going to do something about this.
SUPERVISOR STEC-What can the Town Board do to mitigate these circumstances control
spending as best we can. As far as the system of the property tax and the value of somebody’s
property determining how much they pay in taxes this was a decision made by New York many
many years ago. If there is going to be an effort to say we’re not comfortable with this it is the
State that would be changing the law not any Town. Whether it’s fair or not fair certainly it is a
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State issue to fix on peoples behalf we can certainly take that action, appreciates Mr. Barody’s
comments.
PETER BROTHERS, WARD ONE, QUEENSBURY-Concurs with what Supervisor Stec and
Mr. Barody was saying with regard to the assessment, appreciates the fiscal conservatism with
regard to making efforts last year to give one million dollars back to the taxpayers would like to
see this continue. The same goes for Councilman Boor in expressing concern with regard to the
way people are impacted with the reassessment. Should be thinking about comparions with
municipalities in Warren County noted the State Office of Real Property Services website shows
significant disparities due to the reassessment criteria.
SUPERVISOR STEC-The process is more complicated than any of us has indicated noted it is
hard to explain.
MR. BROTHERS-The formulas that are used to correct the disparity are skewed not working in
the way they are intended to be working. Spoke to the board regarding Medicaid noting it has
become very costly to taxpayers noted he would like the County to highlight the Medicaid
portion of our County property taxes to show how much we are paying. Is concerned for
Welfare that we are paying a lot for non-medically necessary prescriptions, asked Supervisor
Stec to carry this to the County meetings. Spoke to the board regarding North Queensbury Fire
District and the issues of the fire district.
DAVID STRAINER, 1124 RIDGE ROAD-Concur with Mr. Barody’s comments. Spoke to the
board regarding the Workshops noting they are being attended a little heavier now.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Next Monday’s Workshop will be held in the Activity Center
MR. STRAINER-Asked the Town Board if they have given it any thought of putting it in a
bigger place besides next weeks?
SUPERVISOR STEC-We try to go by the agenda we do the best we can.
BERNARD RAHILL, WINCREST DRIVE-Spoke to the board noting he feels there is a need
for reflectors on the roads in Queensbury. Is concerned with Quaker Road that there are no
lights, visibility is poor it is very dangerous. The Town and Highway Department should
investigate the need for reflectors on the sides of the road to give light to the areas that don’t
have lights above them.
OPEN FORUM CLOSED 8:20 P.M.
TOWN BOARD DISCUSSIONS
COUNCILMAN STROUGH- Spoke to the board regarding the Workshop for next Monday. The
Workshop is specifically on the bridge going over Rush Pond it might branch out to other
situations. Has put together a package regarding this if anyone is interested in a copy would
gladly e-mail a copy or contact him at Strough@capitalnet. Drafted a letter Town Board
received it today to the landowners seeking their permission to survey the property. Mrs.
Monahan sent him a website regarding American Bikes, noting thought this could be useful for
the PORC Committee. Part of the new T Program is going to be looking to get kids who can
walk and bike safely to their schools this is what his Rush Pond proposal does. Spoke to the
board regarding a letter received from an eighth grader in support of the Community Center.
Bob Hummel, Coach of Basketball in Queensbury also works in the Town with the Hooper
Basketball Program noted the program is getting to the point where its very difficult to conduct
the program out of the school facilities noted the need for something.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Starting to get opinions on both sides of this issue.
COUNCILMAN STROUGH-Asked Executive Director Ms. Ryba if she has a copy of the new
Stormwater Management Guidance Manual for Local Officials? If not he would be glad to get
copies for Ms. Ryba and the Planning Board. Presented a map Queensbury is not listed on it
everything is in Lake George need to work on this.
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COUNCILMAN BOOR-Spoke to the board regarding the March 28 Workshop. Met with Drew
Monthie and Greg Green they will be doing a Power Point Presentation on what they would like
to do on the corner of Bay and Quaker Roads, encouraged anyone who has taken an interest in
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this to attend. Lowe’s has stepped forward and agreed to provide materials for this corner hopes
other businesses will recognize the importance of how our Town looks and what we can all do to
improve it.
SUPERVISOR STEC-It is entirely appropriate to recognize any individuals or businesses in
Town that volunteer or contribute to Town projects. Asking anyone that wants to volunteer
either for Fire or EMS to contact the Supervisors Office. Anyone that wants to donate time on
Beautification/Outdoor trails kinds of projects to contact the Supervisors Office. Spoke to the
board regarding the next two Workshops that are going to be held. Items to be discussed. Trails
behind Rush Pond, Town Code (clean up of it). Will be talking about the potential of the City of
Glens Falls and the Town consolidating Animal Control Department. West Glens Falls the need
to move the building due to the connector road going through, Bay & Quaker Corner, Main
Street Gateway Enhancements. Thanked TV 8 and Glens Falls National Bank for televising the
board meetings, mentioned the Town’s website www.queensbury.net. Noting they have just
added the property information regarding the reval. Attended the send off for Sergeant Major
Rob McAlvoy, who was called back up to serve on active duty in the Army. He will be working
with disabled Veterans coming back stateside he will be stationed in Washington, thanked him
for his service. Spoke to the board regarding the Buildout Study. Executive Director, Ms. Ryba
the School Board will have a copy of it in the morning. The Town Board members will as well
and the Planning Board, PORC Committee, and ZBA, and staff, will go on the website tomorrow
or the day after. Spoke to the board regarding the old Howard Johnson’s property. The Pyramid
Corporation came in to get a demolition permit to demolish the structures. Attended the Grand
Opening of Target. The District Manager said that the first several days of business were off the
chart well in excess of what they had expected for a Grand Opening here. The performance they
saw from the Queensbury Target was in the top hundred and fifty level of activity. Will be
attending the Grand Opening of Starbucks on Sunday to welcome them to Town. Spoke to the
board encouraged Town Board members if they have questions with any item on the agenda that
Department Heads are available to answer questions in advance of a meeting. They appreciate
the opportunity to answers questions in advance of the meeting. Likewise, I appreciate to
answers questions myself in advance of a meeting.
RESOLUTIONS
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ACCEPTANCE OF PROPOSAL
FOR CONSTRUCTION OF IMPROVEMENTS AT
RIDGE/JENKINSVILLE PARK
RESOLUTION NO.: 134, 2005
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Roger Boor
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury’s Purchasing Agent requested proposals from
construction firms for the furnishing of all materials and performing all work necessary for the
construction of certain improvements described generally as tennis and basketball court
construction, asphalt paving and landscaping at the Ridge/Jenkinsville Park site in the Town of
Queensbury, and
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury received nine (9) proposals and the Town’s
Purchasing Agent, Director of Parks and Recreation and Project Architect Jim Miller reviewed the
proposals, discussed with them with the Town’s Recreation Commission and have recommended
that the Town Board engage the services of the lowest bidder, HMA Contracting Corp., which has
agreed to provide the needed materials and services for an amount not to exceed the lump sum of
$176,879,
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NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby authorizes and directs engagement
of HMA Contracting Corp.,for the furnishing of all materials and performing all work necessary for
the construction of certain improvements described generally as tennis and basketball court
construction, asphalt paving and landscaping at the Ridge/Jenkinsville Park site in the Town of
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Queensbury for an amount not to exceed the lump sum fee amount of 176,879 as recommended by
the Town’s Purchasing Agent and Director of Parks and Recreation, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that expenses for this project shall be paid for from the Ridge/Jenkinsville
Park Improvement Project Account No.: 138-7110-2899, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor to
execute any necessary forms or agreements related to this project if in form acceptable to the Town
Supervisor and Town Counsel, and further authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor, Director of
Parks and Recreation and/or Budget Officer to take all action necessary to effectuate the terms of
this Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 7 day of March, 2005, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Boor, Mr. Turner, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING HIRING OF RICHARD WHITMORE AS
LIGHT MOTOR EQUIPMENT OPERATOR FOR DEPARTMENT OF
PARKS AND RECREATION
RESOLUTION NO. 135, 2005
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHEREAS, by Resolution No.: 32,2005, the Queensbury Town Board established the full-
time hourly position of Light Motor Equipment Operator in the Town’s Parks and Recreation
Department, such position to be included in the Town’s Civil Service Employees Association, Inc.
(CSEA) Bargaining Unit, and
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WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury’s Recreation Commission and Director of Parks and
Recreation posted availability for the position, reviewed resumes, interviewed interested candidates
and wish to make an appointment,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby approves and authorizes the
appointment of Richard Whitmore to the full-time hourly position of Light Motor Equipment
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Operator in the Town’s Parks and Recreation Department effective March 14, 2005 subject to Mr.
Whitmore’s successful completion of a six month probation period, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that Mr. Whitmore shall be paid at an hourly rate of $14.35, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor,
Parks and Recreation Director and/or Town Budget Officer to complete any documentation and take
such other and further action necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 7 day of March, 2005, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Turner, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Boor
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AMENDING RESOLUTION NO.: 77,2005 REGARDING
REAPPOINTMENT OF JACK LABOMBARD
AS RECREATION COMMISSION MEMBER
RESOLUTION NO.: 136, 2005
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Roger Boor
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHEREAS, by Resolution No.: 77,2005 the Queensbury Town Board reappointed Jack
LaBombard to the Town’s Recreation Commission, and
WHEREAS, such Resolution inaccurately listed the expiration date of Mr. LaBombard’s
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term as December 31, instead of the correct expiration date of December 31, , and
WHEREAS, the Town Board wishes to amend Resolution No.: 77,2005 accordingly,
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NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby amends Resolution No.: 77,2005
such that Jack LaBombard’s term on the Town’s Recreation Commission shall expire on December
st
31, 2011, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby affirms and ratifies Resolution No.: 77,2005 in
all other respects.
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Duly adopted this 7 day of March, 2005, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Boor, Mr. Turner
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ENGAGEMENT OF C.T. MALE
ASSOCIATES, P.C. TO PROVIDE ENGINEERING SERVICES RELATED
TO INSTALLATION OF PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING UNDER SANITARY
SEWER CONTRACT 3 B – ROUTE 9 SEWER DISTRICT
RESOLUTION NO.: 137, 2005
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board previously authorized engagement of C.T. Male
Associates, P.C. (C.T. Male) for street lighting design services concerning the section of Route 9
located between Route 149 and the Warren County Municipal Center in connection with creation of
the Route 9 Sewer District, and
WHEREAS, C. T. Male has offered to provide engineering services related to pedestrian
lighting along this same section of Route 9 for an amount not to exceed $7,300 as delineated in C.T.
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Male’s Proposal dated February 16, 2005 and presented at this meeting,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby authorizes and directs engagement
of C.T. Male Associates, P.C. for engineering services related to the Route 9 Pedestrian Lighting
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Project for an amount not to exceed $7,300 as delineated in C.T. Male’s February 16, 2005
Proposal presented at this meeting and as follows:
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1. Design, Bidding and Recommendation of Award - $ 4,700.
2. Construction Administration and Inspection - $ 2,600
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TOTAL: - $ 7,300
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs that payment for C.T.
Male’s services shall be paid for from the Engineering Services (1440) and Consultant Fees (4720)
Accounts as more specifically determined by the Town Budget Officer, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor,
and/or Budget Officer to execute any documentation and take such other and further action as may
be necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 7 day of March, 2005, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Boor, Mr. Turner, Mr. Strough
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SARATOGA COUNTY TO CONDUCT
PILOT/DEMONSTRATION WATER TESTING NEXT TO THE TOWN OF
QUEENSBURY’S WATER TREATMENT PLANT
RESOLUTION NO.: 138, 2005
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Roger Boor
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHEREAS, Saratoga County is currently planning the design and construction of a 14
million gallon per day water treatment facility in the Town of Moreau with an intake upstream of
the Town of Queensbury’s Water Treatment Plant, and
WHEREAS, Saratoga County wishes to run a pilot facility to demonstrate the ability to treat
water with a relatively new membrane filter process, and Saratoga County has requested permission
from the Town of Queensbury to perform the demonstration testing on property next to the Town’s
Water Treatment Plant, and
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WHEREAS, Saratoga County has agreed to reimburse the Town of Queensbury for all costs
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associated with the proposed pilot testing as set forth in the February 18, 2005 letter from Saratoga
County’s Project Engineer, Malcolm Pirnie, Inc. to the Town’s Water Superintendent presented at
this meeting, and
WHEREAS, the Water Superintendent has recommended that the Town Board authorize
Saratoga County to conduct such pilot tests as such testing would present no problems to the
Town’s facilities and would provide the Town with valuable data for possible future upgrades to the
Town’s Water Treatment Plant, and
WHEREAS, the Town wishes to extend a spirit of cooperation for the mutual benefit of the
Town and Saratoga County constituents by authorizing such pilot testing and feels that such testing
would be in the best interests of the Town, its residents and the Consolidated Water District,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby approves and authorizes Saratoga
County to run a pilot facility to demonstrate the ability to treat water with a relatively new
membrane filter process, on property next to the Town’s Water Treatment Plant, as set forth in the
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February 18, 2005 letter from Saratoga County’s Project Engineer, Malcolm Pirnie, Inc. to the
Town’s Water Superintendent presented at this meeting, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that Saratoga County shall reimburse the Town of Queensbury for any and all
costs incurred as a result of such pilot testing, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor
and/or Water Superintendent to execute any documentation associated with such water testing and
authorizes the Town Supervisor, Water Superintendent, Budget Officer and Town Counsel to take
such other and further action necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 7 day of March, 2005, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Stec, Mr. Boor, Mr. Turner, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION APPOINTING JENNIFER BAERTSCHI AS MEMBER OF
TOWN HISTORIAN’S ADVISORY BOARD
RESOLUTION NO. 139, 2005
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INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Roger Boor
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHEREAS, the Town of Queensbury previously established and appointed members to the
Town Historian’s Advisory Board in accordance with the Queensbury Town Code, and
WHEREAS, the Town Historian has recommended that the Town Board appoint Town
resident Jennifer Baertschi as an additional member of such Advisory Board,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby appoints Jennifer Baertschi as a
member of the Town Historian’s Advisory Board until Ms. Baertschi’s term expires on December
st
31, 2005.
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Duly adopted this 7 day of March, 2005, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Boor, Mr. Turner, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING BARTON & LOGUIDICE, P.C., TO
PROVIDE ADDITIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES IN CONNECTION
WITH MAIN STREET INFRASTRUCTURE AND REDEVELOPMENT
PLAN – UTILITY UNDERGROUNDING PLAN IMPLEMENTATION AND
MAIN STREET PLAN IMPLEMENTATION
RESOLUTION NO.: 140, 2005
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Roger Boor
WHEREAS, by previous Resolution(s), the Queensbury Town Board authorized
engagement of Barton & Loguidice, P.C. Consulting Engineers (Barton) for the provision of
engineering, planning and landscaping architecture services in connection with the proposed Main
Street Infrastructure and Redevelopment Plan, and
WHEREAS, the Town’s Executive Director of Community Development has advised the
Town Board that Barton has completed the scopes of work previously authorized by the Town
and has recommended that the Town Board engage Barton for the provision of additional
engineering services and technical support in order to pursue the Town’s goal of placing all of
the Project’s utilities underground, and
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WHEREAS, Barton has offered to provide the additional engineering services for an
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amount not to exceed $14,000 as delineated in a copy of Barton’s February 17, 2005 letter
proposal presented at this meeting,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby authorizes and directs engagement
of Barton & Loguidice, P.C. for the provision of the additional engineering services referenced in
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the preambles of this Resolution and as delineated in Barton & Loguidice, P.C.’s February 17,
2005 letter proposal presented at this meeting, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes appropriations in the amount not to
exceed $14,000 for these engineering services and directs that payment be paid from the Exit 18
Corridor Enhancement Capital Project, Capital Construction Account No.: 126-5020-2899, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Supervisor,
Executive Director of Community Development and/or Budget Officer to execute any
documentation and take such other and further action necessary to effectuate all terms of this
Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 7 day of March, 2005, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Turner, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Boor
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION APPOINTING SUSAN BARDEN AS LAND USE PLANNER
RESOLUTION NO. 141, 2005
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board previously established the position of Land Use
Planner and there is presently a vacancy in such position, and
WHEREAS, the Executive Director of Community Development posted availability for the
vacant Land Use Planner position, reviewed resumes, interviewed interested candidates and has
made a hiring recommendation to the Town Board,
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NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby appoints Susan Barden to the
position of Land Use Planner, an overtime exempt and Grade 6 position within the Town of
Queensbury’s Non-Union Position Grade Schedule on a provisional basis subject to successful
completion of 1) a six month probation period, 2) the Civil Service exam for the Land Use Planner
position, 3) Warren County Civil Service rules, and 3) an employment physical as required by
Town Policy, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that Ms. Barden shall be paid an annual salary of $37,000 to be paid from the
appropriate payroll account, and
BE IT FURTHER,
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RESOLVED, that Ms. Barden’s full-time appointment shall be effective March 21, 2005;
however, the Town Board hereby authorizes payment to Ms. Barden for her attendance at the Town
of Queensbury’s Community Development Department’s specialized customer service training
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classes to be held March 9 and 11 from 8:00 a.m. to 12:00 noon, such payment to be calculated at
the hourly rate for Ms. Barden’s position, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby authorizes the Town Supervisor, Executive
Director of Community Development and/or Budget Officer to complete any forms and take any
action necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 7 day of March, 2005 by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Boor, Mr. Turner
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION TO AMEND 2005 BUDGET
RESOLUTION NO.: 142, 2005
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. John Strough
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Daniel Stec
WHEREAS, the attached Budget Amendment Requests have been duly initiated and
justified and are deemed compliant with Town operating procedures and accounting practices by the
Town Budget Officer,
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NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the Town
Budget Officer’s Office to take all action necessary to transfer funds and amend the 2004 Town
Budget as follows:
ACCOUNTING
FROM: TO: $ AMOUNT:
040-9950-9030 40-8310-4720 87,715.
(Transfer to Cap. Proj.) (Water Admin.
Consultant Fees)
001-1990-4400 001-8030-4400 10,000.
(Contingency) (Community Reach Misc. Con.)
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Duly adopted this 7 day of March, 2005, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Boor, Mr. Turner, Mr. Strough
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION APPROVING AUDIT OF BILLS –
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ABSTRACT OF MARCH 3, 2005
RESOLUTION NO.: 143, 2005
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board wishes to approve the audit of bills presented as
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the Abstract with a run date of March 3 2005 and a payment date of March 8, 2005,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby approves the Abstract with a run
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date of March 3, 2005 and payment date of March 8, 2005 numbering 25-096200 through 25-
110800 and totaling $416,050.14, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Budget Officer and/or
Town Supervisor to take such other and further action as may be necessary to effectuate the terms of
this Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 7 day of March, 2005, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Stec, Mr. Boor, Mr. Turner, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION AWARDING BIDS FOR PURCHASE OF WATER
CONNECTION MATERIALS FOR USE BY
TOWN WATER DEPARTMENT
RESOLUTION NO. 144, 2005
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Theodore Turner
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
WHEREAS, the Town’s Purchasing Agent duly advertised for bids for the purchase of
water connection materials for use by the Town’s Water Department, and
WHEREAS, the Purchasing Agent and Water Superintendent have reviewed all received
bids and have made their bid award recommendations to the Town Board,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board hereby awards the bids for the purchase of
water connection materials for use by the Town’s Water Department to the lowest responsible
bidders in each category and from the respective accounts as follows:
ITEM AND SUCCESSFUL BID ACCOUNT
SPECIFICATION NO. BIDDER AMOUNT TO FUND PURCHASE
1. Copper Albany Winwater Works $4,594.80 40-8340-4320
2. Curb Boxes & Lids Vellano Bros., Inc. $2,936.20 40-8340-4320
3. Hydrant Parts Vellano Bros., Inc. $1,128.75 40-8340-2899
4. Brass EJ Prescott, Inc. $753.98 40-8340-4320
5. Valves Ferguson Waterworks $1,342. 40-8340-2899
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Purchasing Agent,
Water Superintendent and/or Budget Officer to take such other and further action as may be
necessary to effectuate the terms of this Resolution.
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Duly adopted this 7 day of March, 2005, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Boor, Mr. Turner, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION SETTING PUBLIC HEARING ON PETITION FOR
CHANGE OF ZONE FOR PROPERTY OWNED BY BAY MEADOWS
COUNTRY CLUB, INC. AND JOHN DREPS AND EUGENE CERNIGLIA
RESOLUTION NO.: 145, 2005
INTRODUCED BY : Mr. Theodore Turner
WHO MOVED ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY : Mr. John Strough
WHEREAS, the Queensbury Town Board is considering a request by John Dreps and
Eugene Cerniglia to amend the Town Zoning Ordinance and Map to rezone properties bearing
Tax Map No.’s: 296.16-1-14; 296.16-1-16.1 and 296.16-1-15 located on the east side of Bay
Road, North of Cronin Road in the Town of Queensbury from Planned Unit Development (PUD)
to Highway Commercial Intensive (HC-INT) and to facilitate a land swap across a zoning
boundary to facilitate five (5) lot commercial subdivision, and
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WHEREAS, on or about January 24, 2005, the Town Board adopted a Resolution
authorizing submission of the rezoning application to the Town’s Planning Board for report and
recommendation and consenting to the Planning Board acting as Lead Agency for SEQRA
review of the project, and
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WHEREAS, on or about February 22, 2005, the Queensbury Planning Board
considered the proposed rezoning, adopted a SEQRA Negative Declaration and with the
concurrence of the applicant, made a recommendation to the Town Board to rezone
approximately one (+1) acre of land from Planned Unit Development (PUD) to Highway
Commercial Moderate (HC-MOD), rezone approximately One and Two One-Hundredths
(+1.02) acres of land from Highway Commercial Intensive (HC-INT) to Planned Unit
Development (PUD), then rezone the entire project site of approximately Six and Thirty-Seven
Hundredths (+6.37) acres to Highway Commercial Moderate (HC-MOD), and
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WHEREAS, on or about February 9, 2005, the Warren County Planning Board
considered the proposed rezoning and made a recommendation of “No County Impact,” and
WHEREAS, before the Town Board may amend, supplement, change, or modify its
Ordinance and Map, it must hold a public hearing in accordance with the provisions of Town
Law §265, the Municipal Home Rule Law and the Town of Queensbury Zoning Laws,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
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RESOLVED, that the Queensbury Town Board shall hold a public hearing on Monday,
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March 21, 2005 at 7:00 p.m. at the Queensbury Activities Center, 742 Bay Road, Queensbury to
hear all interested parties concerning the request by John Dreps and Eugene Cerniglia to amend
the Town Zoning Ordinance and Map to rezone the following properties:
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A portion of the property bearing Tax Map No. 296.16-1-14 and a portion of the property
bearing Tax Map No. 296.16-1-16.1 totaling approximately One and Two One-
Hundredths (+1.02) acres of land from Highway Commercial Intensive (HC-INT) to
Planned Unit Development (PUD);
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A portion of the property known as Tax Map No. 296.16-1-15 equaling approximately
one (+1) acre of land from Planned Unit Development (PUD) to Highway Commercial
Moderate (HC-MOD);
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The remainder of the properties known as Tax Map No. 296.16-1-14 and Tax Map No.
196-1-16.1 from Highway Commercial Intensive (HC-INT) to Highway Commercial
Moderate (HC-MOD);
and to facilitate a land swap across a zoning boundary to facilitate five (5) lot commercial
subdivision, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby authorizes and directs the Town Clerk’s Office
to provide 10 days notice of the public hearing by publishing the attached Notice of Public
Hearing in the Town’s official newspaper and posting the Notice on the Town’s bulletin board,
and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Community
Development Department to provide the Town Clerk’s Office with a list of all property owners
located within 500' of the area to be rezoned so that the Town Clerk’s Office may send the
Notice of Public Hearing to those property owners, and
BE IT FURTHER,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further authorizes and directs the Town Clerk’s Office
to send the Notice of Public Hearing to the Clerk of the Warren County Board of Supervisors,
Warren County Planning Board and other communities or agencies that it is necessary to give
written notice to in accordance with New York State Town Law §265, the Town’s Zoning
Regulations and the Laws of the State of New York.
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Duly adopted this 7 day of March, 2005, by the following vote:
AYES : Mr. Turner, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr Stec, Mr. Boor
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
ACTION OF RESOLUTIONS PREVIOUSLY INTRODUCED FROM THE FLOOR
COUNCILMAN STROUGH-I seconded the motion so Roger could speak his peace. I certainly
agree that we should not settle our differences in the courtroom between Glens Falls and
Queensbury. I believe there are other routes to take and I suggested that if you look at the
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August 23 minutes, I suggested that we do sit down with Glens Falls and communicate there
are some things that need to be done. In January again, I proposed that we sit down with Glens
Falls and possible talk some type of a watershed management zone. I said there are other things
that need to be talked about between Glens Falls and Queensbury. With all that said and done, I
agree with you Roger on most of what you said. However, I also think that I have to listen to
what Bob has to say and I haven’t heard it yet. I think it is a little bit premature to have a vote on
this resolution and I’m going to rescind by second.
SUPERVISOR STEC-We do not have a second does anyone else want to second this resolution?
COUNCILMAN BREWER-No, but I’ll make a comment.
SUPERVISOR STEC-Go right ahead.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-I would agree with what you said John. I think it’s irresponsible to
defend it or not defend it until we at least know what it says. Now, Roger you are the most
critical of not getting a copy of it, but if you don’t know what it says how can you make a
determination that you don’t want to defend it.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-I didn’t say that.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-You did say that.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-As a matter of fact the letter from our Attorney gave us three
alternatives and not defending it was one of them.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-Let me finish please. Okay, let me finish.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-And I didn’t say that. I said; I wanted it rescinded so that we could
discuss it. Then if we still felt it was appropriate we didn’t have the time constraint on us where
we had to respond.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-I didn’t hear that. I heard you say you didn’t want to defend it….
COUNCILMAN BOOR-I don’t want to go into what we’ve talked about in attorney/client
privilege.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-I also say that when we made this motion I thought about what we
were doing enough to say, yeah I vote to do it. I don’t know all of a sudden because somebody
threatens us or indicates they are going to threaten us we just back down from it. If you didn’t
believe in the decision you made back then you shouldn’t of made that decision.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-I believe very strongly in that decision Tim at the time. Unfortunately,
I think I didn’t have the information and some information….
COUNCILMAN BREWER-I don’t….
COUNCILMAN BOOR-Let me finish if you want a response. I think some of the information
we were given was incorrect. At this point, I still haven’t even seen the lawsuit that’s claiming
action against the five of us; I’m concerned I don’t think that’s good. I think that when you are
sued you ought to be able to see what you are being sued for.
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COUNCILMAN BREWER-Right. I think if I wanted to know about it I wouldn’t wait ten days
and do it on public TV to say that I didn’t get a copy of it.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-I would think that when I request from our Attorney that I want a copy
of the lawsuit, I would have to believe that because they are under contract to serve this board
that they would be johnny on the spot getting the lawsuit that’s claiming that we’ve done
something wrong a complaint.
COUNCILMAN BREWER-I just don’t believe in throwing the blame all to one person Roger.
You were remised in your obligation to ask for another copy of it just don’t blame it on
somebody else.
SUPERVISOR STEC-We no longer have a second. I see that we will not be having a second so
we will not be voting on this tonight. I just want to point out just as a point of clarification just
to make sure that the air is crystal clear that I have not reviewed the lawsuit yet. I haven’t seen a
copy delivered to me for me to read yet either. However, I personally was not concerned by that
yet because one, we had time and two, I had believed that it was clear to the board last Monday
night out of Executive Session that the course of action was going to be to in fact take no action.
In fact, I know I recommended that it was in the Town’s interest to not discuss this until we
heard from our Attorney that we would be hearing from our Attorney on this tonight. Then, I
believe it was John that had sent an e-mail that led me to believe that he had concluded that I was
saying that we would be hearing on this lawsuit two weeks from tonight on the twenty first. I
sent an e-mail back saying; no please more carefully read, I think is the jest of the language that I
used. What, I had said in my previous e-mail that we would be hearing an update on all the rest
of the Town’s litigation, which by the way our Attorney’s have pointed out, has been going
down lately so we haven’t been getting sued by all of our neighbors. We would be discussing
this particular item tonight so that’s why I wasn’t concerned. That’s frankly why I was surprised
perhaps we could have been a little faster with getting that word to the Town Board, which is
again I know I sent another e-mail out not having anything to do with this litigation. I mentioned
it under Town Board discussion encouraging the board members there are three departments’
heads that we have three completely separate businesses that we need to get updated on. One
isn’t a secret at all that you are all about to get calls from somebody talking about the reval
process as to at least support what the process is and how Helen’s administrating it. Helen had
asked me to encourage Town Board members to contact her. I don’t know if they have or
haven’t yet. If you haven’t yet it’s not the end of the world but please do so. It sounds to me
like there was an expectation that had been met for whatever reason. Again, a phone call to
anybody could have avoided the discussion earlier that took place. Although, I don’t think that
anything horrific happened in the discussion. Roger expressed his views pretty clearly a week
ago tonight that that’s how he felt. We had an Executive Session that went into a little bit more
detail than that. It essentially the public’s portion of the meeting captures the jest of what we
talked about in Executive Session. Again, I just think it’s the Town’s responsibility to keep all
of our options open the City certainly is. To clarify a comment that was made earlier we did not
sue the City the City has chosen to take action against the Town. We need to discuss those
matters with the Attorney’s that we hired that are doing an excellent job. I’ve said that before
publicly in my opinion and I’ll say it again, I think they are doing a great job for us. You’ve got
a pretty good batting record when it comes to ones that you tell us you think will win and ones
that you think that will lose. I can recall one vividly one a few years ago that two of the Town
Board members that are here now weren’t there then. The other two were right and sided with
our Attorney and I was wrong and I sided with the other two members of the board in trying to
rescind a similar resolution with trying to reopen Fuller Road. The Town Board spent at least
twenty thousand dollars in losing that one so in hindsight, I wish that I had listened to Bob.
Although, at the time with the information that I had, I was convinced that I was doing the right
thing, but I’d like to think that I personally learn from my mistakes and since then they’ve had a
very good batting record. I prefer to agree with what’s been said here by Tim and John that we
do need to hear from our Attorney before we make a definitive answer.
COUNCILMAN BOOR-With all do respect, I have to take exception to a couple comments.
One is that simply because you can prevail in court doesn’t make you a winner if in fact the
result creates an atmosphere where you cannot foster intermunicipal cooperation. I’ll just say
that it was very clear from a previous meeting where this board was headed so the illusion that
we haven’t made up our mind is somewhat misleading. It’s very clear where this board is going
and it was eloquently stated by three of its members and I’ll leave it at that.
SUPERVISOR STEC-That’s fine.
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ATTORNEY MATTERS
NONE
RESOLUTION ENTERING EXECUTIVE SESSION
RESOLUTION NO. 146, 2005
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Roger Boor
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from Regular
Session and moves into Executive Session to discuss a personnel matter/potential hiring of an
individual and assessment litigation matter.
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Duly adopted this 7 day of March, 2005, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Boor, Mr. Turner
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
RESOLUTION ADJOURNING EXECUTIVE SESSION
RESOLUTION NO. 147, 2005
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Roger Boor
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns from Executive
Session with no action taken and moves back into the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury.
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Duly adopted this 7 day of March, 2005, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Brewer, Mr. Stec, Mr. Boor, Mr. Turner, Mr. Strough
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
DISCUSSION HELD
Brief discussion held regarding Queensbury Central Volunteer Fire Company, EMS vehicle
request. No action taken. Discussion held with Director of Building & Codes, Mr. Hatin
regarding septic variance applications procedures, and additional information desired for these
applications. No action taken.
RESOLUTION ADJOURNING REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING
RESOLUTION NO. 148, 2005
INTRODUCED BY: Mr. Roger Boor
WHO MOVED FOR ITS ADOPTION
SECONDED BY: Mr. Tim Brewer
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Queensbury hereby adjourns its Regular
Town Board Meeting.
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Duly adopted this 7 day of March, 2005, by the following vote:
AYES: Mr. Stec, Mr. Boor, Mr. Turner, Mr. Strough, Mr. Brewer
NOES: None
ABSENT:None
Respectfully Submitted,
Darleen M. Dougher
Town Clerk
Town of Queensbury