1994-01-12
QUEENS BURY RECREATION COMMISSION
MINUTES OF MEETING
JANUARY 12, 1994
Minutes of the regular meeting of the Recreation Commission of the
Town of Queensbury, held Wednesday, January 12, 1994, at the
Queensbury Town Office Building, Queensbury, New York. Chairman
Simmonds called the meeting to order at 7:02 p.m.
PRESENT:
Commissioners Auer, Hersh, Maine, Schachner and
Simmonds
ALSO
PRESENT:
Director Hansen and Ass't. Director Lovering
ABSENT:
Commissioners Carusone (ex) and LaBombard (ex)
VISITORS:
Tom Nace (Haanen Eng.)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commissioner Auer questioned a paragraph in the November 10th
meeting minutes which in his opinion, did not adequately reflect
Mr. Demers' assurance to the Commission that he (Demers) would
design some mechanism in order to secure and stabilize the portable
benches he would install at Hovey Pond Park in the spring.
Furthermore, he (Demers) also agreed to present documentation
(pictures) to the Commission before continuing on the project and
this too was not correctly addressed in the minutes. After some
discussion, those present unanimously agreed with Commissioner Auer
and the Director was instructed to correct the minutes as
discussed. A typographical error (incorrect date - page 2) was
also pointed out and this too will be corrected in the revised
minutes.
Commissioner Auer moved to approve the minutes of the November 10th
(including the omission/correction) and December 8, 1993 meetings.
Commissioner Hersh seconded the motion and after polling all
commissioners, the motion was unanimously approved.
COMMUNICATIONS/REMARKS FROM VISITORS
The Director briefly reviewed the items of correspondence included
in the monthly packet. Commissioner Maine mentioned that the
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Environmental Advisory Committee would be making a presentation to
the Town Board in January and the Director pointed out that the
Commission's recommendation (Bike Trail Concept) would be discussed
later this evening (new business) and given to the Supervisor/Town
Board later this week.
Tom Nace arrived and after introductions, he outlined Mr.
Passarelli's proposal (Baybrook Subdivision letter) which was
included in the packet. There was considerable discussion on the
usability of the 6 acre parcel which is classified as an "existing
wetland" and the Commission agreed that the parcel should be
evaluated firsthand before making a decision. Considering that
Haanen Engineering also represents Mr. Potvin (Clendon Brook
dedication-new business agenda item), it was decided that the
Commission should attempt to visit both sites on the same day.
This will give the Commission somewhat of an opportunity to see the
parcels before having to make a recommendation to the planning
board in February. This was agreed and those in attendance decided
to meet at the Bay Road site at 11:00 a.m. on Monday, January 17th.
The Department will remind all members as well as contact those not
present this evening (reminder note).
The Feeder Canal memo from the Supervisor was discussed and
Commissioner Auer volunteered to serve as the Town's liaison on the
Feeder Canal Alliance Board. Commissioner Schachner volunteered to
be a backup in the event of a conflict and the Director will advise
K. Kathe (Alliance Director) of the Commission's action.
1994 COMMISSION MEETING SCHEDULE
The Director explained that the enclosed copy of the meeting date
schedule for 1994 which was approved at the December meeting had
been distributed to all concerned (Town Board, Town Clerk,
newspaper, etc.).
BIKE TRAIL CONCEPT - RECOMMENDATION
The Commission's recommendation (tentative) with regard to the bike
trail concept proposed by the Environmental Advisory Committee was
reviewed and the Director explained the maps attached there too.
He pointed out that the Freiberger situation (property owner who at
this time, is less than supportive of the bike trail) was of
extreme importance because the trail as it was now proposed had to
traverse their property. Commissioner Schachner commented on the
text of the recommendation (Commission approved concept but not
funding or acquisition) and suggested a word change in the last
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sentence. The Commission agreed and the Director will make the
change, re-date the recommendation and submit it to the
Supervisor/Town Board in the morning.
1993 SWIM POOL/LESSON ANALYSIS
The swimming pool/lesson program analysis sheets were explained by
the Director and the Commission asked a variety of questions in
order to better understand the charts. What elements were included
in direct and indirect labor, supplies/equipment, etc. and how the
attendance/registration figures related to each other as well as
compared to previous years. In summary, the Director pointed out
that these figures plus additional information to follow would be
the basis for the Department's recommendation this spring with
regard to swimming pool fee and charges in 1994. Commissioner
Hersh suggested a better "yardstick" in that future charts should
only compare actual to actual figures instead of to budgeted
figures. This will be corrected before the recommendation is
presented later this spring.
RECREATION COMMISSION GUIDELINES
The Commission briefly reviewed the legislative authority
(Municipal Law, section #243), and the Town Board Resolution (#44
of 1964) which created the recreation commission and after
discussing the situation, Commissioner Schachner volunteered to
chair a committee (Schachner, Simmonds, Auer & Carusone) to draft
bylaws (guidelines/procedures) and a mission statement for the
Commission. The Director has examples of bylaws from other
organizations/boards and will send them on to Commissioner
Schachner.
MONTHLY DEPARTMENT REPORT
Ass't. Director Lovering reviewed the Department's monthly report
and there were no comments. The Director relayed the situation
with the Hovey Pond Park ice rink and explained that it was his
administrative decision to open Gurney Lane and not the pond last
weekend (time and resources to do one facility only). A local
resident had complained to both the Supervisor and his ward
councilman and the Director had been asked to come to the Monday
evening board meeting to explain.
A number of Commissioners questioned how the Department would
maintain and supervise the ice area at Hovey Pond Park and the
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Director outlined the Department's plan. He assured them that
through barricades, signs and a weekend monitor that the public
would not be at risk when using the facility.
The Director distributed a copy of the 1/10/94 letter from Mr. Stec
regarding the sale of approximately 275 acres of land on West
Mountain. Mr. Stec is again offering the Town a number of parcels
which are for the most part inaccessible and surrounded by Glens
Falls watershed property. The Director displayed an area map in
order for the Commission to see the parcels in question and he
commented on a similar offer three years earlier. After further
deliberation, the consensus was that it would be incorrect to
render a decision without additional information. Therefore, the
Director was instructed to relay this information to the
Supervisor, meet with Mr. Stec to determine accessibility, cost
etc. and then report back to the Commission at the February
meeting.
Commissioner Auer suggested for safety/accountability sake that the
Department use a "sign-in" sheet at the adult evening swim program
and this will be implemented immediately.
There being no further business, the Commission meeting was
adjourned at 9:13 p.m. The next meeting will be held on February
9, 1994, beginning at 7:00 p.m., in the Supervisor's conference
room (#37), at the Queensbury Town Office Building.
repared by Harry R. Hansen