1987-03-09
QUEENSBURY RECREATION COMMISSION
MINUTES OF MEETING
MARCH 9, 1987
Minutes of the regular meeting of the Recreation Commission
of the Town of Queensbury, held Monday, March 9, 1987, at the
Queensbury Town Office Building, Queensbury, New York. Acting
Chairman Granger called the meeting to order at 7:38 P.M.
PRESENT: Commissioners Bly, Granger, LaBombard, Lemery, Lettus,
Martin, Teti, and Director Hansen
ABSENT: None
VISITORS: Bradford Hague, James Martin, Gary Bowen, Elaine Wilson,
Greg Moran (Post-Star)
Acting Chairman Granger introduced and welcomed Commissioner
James Lettus to the Recreation Commission.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commissioner Bly moved to approve the minutes of the
February 9, 1987 meeting. Commissioner Lemery seconded the motion
and after polling those Commissioners present, the motion was
unanimously approved.
COMMUNICATIONS/REMARKS FROM VISITORS
Mr. Bradford Hague was introduced and spoke to the Commission
regarding the need for an outdoor learning and recreation center.
Mr. Hague mentioned that such a facility might be jointly under-
taken by the Town and the Queensbury School District and would
serve many community groups including Trout Unlimited, Sierra
Club, Audubon Society, etc. Mr. Hague also pointed out that he
had spoken with the Town Supervisor and it was mentioned that
the Gurney Lane recreation area might be an ideal location for
such a facility. Mr. Hague next introduced James Martin as a
resource individual who specializes in grant writing for recreation
projects such as this. The 1986 Environmental Quality Bond Act,
as a possible source of funding for this project, was discussed
and it was agreed that more information on the whole project
was necessary. Commissioner Martin reminded the group that the
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upcoming joint meeting of the Recreation Commission and the
School Board, on March 16th, would provide a good forum to
discuss such a project. Acting Chairman Granger suggested that
Mr. Hague investigate this project more thoroughly and plan
on attending the April meeting.
Mr. Gary Bowen, representing the Hiland Park Project, spoke
to the Commission and presented the plans for his 713 acre project.
The project includes 299 multiple-family dwellings, 188 single-
family home sites, a large retirement village/technical park,
an l8-hole golf course and numerous indoor/outdoor recreation
facilities. Mr. Bowen explained that the project is still in
the planning stages and that approvals from the necessary
organizations i.e. Planning/Zoning Boards, Town Board, etc. are
anticipated shortly. Mr. Bowen further explained that his project
would be phased over the next 3-4 years and that his intention
tonight was to explain some of the details about the project
especially those which might benefit the Town's Recreation
Department.
The 70 acre parcel (buffer area around Halfway Brook) in the
southeast portion of the project was discussed and Mr. Bowen
explained that he might consider gifting this to the Town for
public usage.
Acting Chairman Granger, on behalf of the Commission, thanked
Mr. Bowen for his presentation.
1987 RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING DATES
The 1987 Recreation Commission meeting dates schedule was
reviewed and it was decided that due to conflicts, that the
regular monthly meeting date be changed to the third Monday of
every month. Commissioner Lemery made the motion to officially
change the remaining 1987 meeting date schedule and Commissioner
Martin seconded the motion. Those Commission members present
were polled and the motion was unanimously approved. The Director
will make up a new schedule and distribute copies to the appropriate
Town Board members, the press, and post a copy at the Town
Office Building.
JOINT SCHOOL/COMMISSION MEETING
Acting Chairman Granger reminded Commissioners Martin,
Lemery, Bly, and the Director about the upcoming joint meeting with
Queensbury School personnel on Monday, March 16th. Commissioner
Martin pointed out that the meeting had been arranged as a first
step in opening the lines of communication between the two
organizations. The Commission discussed a number of future project
areas which the committee could discuss at the meeting including
lighting school facilities and a reciprocating pool usage agreement.
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RECREATION/TOWN PLANNER REPORT
Commissioner LaBombard reported on a recent meeting with
Town Planner, S. Messinger, and the Director presented a current
map of Town-owned property and subdivision projects within the
Town. The map was extremely beneficial in that the Commission
was able to visually understand the possible relationship between
future subdivision projects and possible Town parks. Acting
Chairman Granger pointed out that based on the subdivision
development in the West Mountain/Peggy Ann Road area, that the
Commission might begin to consider developing a neighborhood
park location to meet the needs of these future residents. The
map will be updated by the Planning Department on a monthly basis
and available to the Commission for their monthly meetingl
Commissioner Lemery moved to adjourn to Executive Session
at 8:50 P.M. to discuss possible land acquisition and Commissioner
Martin seconded the motion. Those Commission members present
were polled and the motion was unanimously approved.
Returning to open session at 9:02, the Commission began
a discussion of new business.
SOUTH QUEENSBURY FIREHOUSE PARK PROJECT
Commissioner Lettus and the Director relayed the specifics
of the recent joint neighborhood park project meeting at the
S. Queensbury Firehouse. Overall, Fire Company personnel were
pleased with the Department's tentative park diagram and the
"shopping list" of possible park equipment. Commissioner Lettus
expressed concerns regarding the pole barn, lighting, and future
land utilization by the fire company for its own purposes. The
Director pointed out that Councilman Montesi, at a previous
meeting, had offered Highway Department equipment and manpower
for some of the construction work at the site. The project fund
has approximately $8700.00 and the cost for the majority of
construction work and equipment purchases will be paid for out
of this fund. No specific time schedule has been set but it is
anticipated that work will begin sometime this Spring.
QUEENSBURY ASSOCIATION DISCUSSION
Commissioner Lemery requested to know information about the
Queensbury Association and the recent civil action taken by this
group regarding the Town and the Round Pond property. The
Commission briefly discussed the situation and the Director
explained that, to the best of his knowledge, this organization
had not been sanctioned by the Town Board. The Commission
wondered why this group had not contacted the Commission recently
and no one had an explanation.
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TITLE CHANGE (DEPARTMENT AND DIRECTOR)
Commissioner Martin circulated material suggesting a title
change for the Recreation Department and the Director. Inasmuch
as the Department has recently accumulated large quantities of
park property, it was recommended that the title Recreation
Department be changed to that of Department of Parks and Recreation.
In addition, because of the increased responsibility, it was
also recommended that the title of Recreation Director be changed
to Director of Parks and Recreation. Such a change might give
the Department "an edge" when applying for project funding and
would undoubtedly give the Department a new image in the eyes
of the community. After further discussion, Commissioner Lemery
made a motion to formally request that the Town Board consider
title changes for both the Recreation Department and the Director.
Commissioner LaBombard seconded the motion and after polling all
Commission members, the motion was unanimously approved.
The Director was instructed to include the recommendations
in the form of a letter from the Commission, and submit it to
the Town Board as soon as possible.
PRESS COVERAGE CONCERN
Commissioner Martin distributed two pieces of correspondence
dealing with the media coverage of the February 9th Recreation
Commission meeting. The Commission discussed the correspondence
and agreed that the Post-Star reporter, that evening, had
committed an obvious transgression and therefore violated a
privilege which is entrusted to the media. The reporter's
decision to listen "at the keyhole" during an Executive Session
was extremely unprofessional and it was decided that Commissioner
Martin's editorial letter to the Post-Star be sent in response/
protest. After making some minor changes in grammar, the letter
was signed by Commissioners Martin, Granger, Lemery, Lettus,
LaBombard, and Teti and given to Greg Moran to deliver to the
editor.
DIRECTOR'S REPORT
The Director's report and the attached Department monthly
budget update were reviewed and there were questions concerning
the Environmental Quality Bond Act meeting and how it might
relate to Department recreation project funding. The Director
explained the specific funding eligibility requirements and
pointed out that applications will not be available until late
April. It is anticipated that the Department will seek as much
project funding as possible.
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The Ridge Road Park project was updated and the most recent
diagram was displayed. It is anticipated that the project's
first phase will go out for bid some time in late March.
The Commission questioned some of the line items as shown
on the Department's monthly budget update.
RECREATION COMMISSION SECRETARY APPOINTED
Acting Chairman Granger noted that the time had come for the
Commission to consider appointing a secretary to record the
official minutes of all meetings. Inasmuch as Elaine Wilson,
Recreation Department Secretary, will be in attendance at all
monthly meetings, it would seem logical that she be considered
for the position of secretary to the Recreation Commission.
Commissioner Martin made the motion to appoint Elaine as secretary
to the Commission. Acting Chairman Granger seconded the motion
and after polling all Commission members, the motion was
unanimously approved. Commissioner Bly questioned whether the
Commission had the power or the right to appoint such a position.
After a brief discussion it was pointed out that based on Section
#243 of the General Municipal Law, that "a Town Recreation Commission
has power over the appointment and dismissal of officers and
employees of the Commission...."
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned
at 9:36 P.M. The next meeting will be held on April 13th at
7:30 P.M.