1985-10-28
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QUEENSBURY RECREATION COMMISSION
MINUTES OF MEETING
OCTOBER 28, 1985
Minutes of the regular meeting of the Recreation Commission of
the Town of Queensbury, held Monday, October 28, 1985 at the Queens-
bury Town Office Building, Queensbury, New York. Chairperson Little
called the meeting to order at 7:36 P.M.
PRESENT:
Commissioners Bly, Granger, Lemery, Little, Martin, Teti,
Councilman Monahan and Olson and Director Hansen
ABSENT:
Commissioners LaBombard (ex.), Councilman Morrell
VISITORS:
A. Fiore (Post Star), Robert H. Bowman, Joseph Bowman,
Robert and Mary Grassie, Alice Bedore, Dan and Rick
Singer, Sherri McLaughlin, Virginia Schies, Richard
Bennett, Patricia Wells, Dick Cutting, Frank Arnold,
Margaret Lucas, Howard and Charlotte Bowman, Phillip
Harris, M. Tierney
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commissioner Lemery moved to approve the minutes of the Sep-
tember 23, 1985 meeting. Commissmoner Martin seconded the motion
which was unanimously approved.
COMMUNICATIONS AND REMARKS FROM VISITORS
Chairperson Little introduced the members of the Recreation
Commission and the Town Board, who were present and welcomed those
who were here to talk about the Ridge Road Park project. She read
the Supervisor's letter regarding the purchase and development plans
for the 80 acre parcel and Commissioner Granger distributed and read
aloud a Post Star editorial (soon to be published), by the Commission
which reiterated the Commission's position on a number of Recreation
issues. The Director distributed a three page handout, which in-
cluded a copy of LA Partnership's conceptual plan, a tentative time-
table and cost estimates for the project. Chairperson Little briefly
reviewed some of the facts regarding the property, including its re-
lationship to the Department's master plan and then invited those in
the audience to make comments and suggestions.
P. Wells - requested to know how long the Town had been negotiating
and looking at this piece of property, and how committed were we.
B. Little - responded that Mr. Harris had proposed this to the Town
a number of years ago. Regarding the committment, the Town was total-
ly committed, however, the extent of development would depend on the
available funds and of course, the grant qualifications.
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D. Olson - added that the HCRS grant was done by professionals and that
based on the rating system, the Town's chances for approval were ex-
tremely high.
V. Schies - wondered about the hours of usage of the park, inasmuch as
softball games in the summer months at the school continue up until
dark. Would this be the case at the Ridge Road site?
B. Little and H. Hansen - both responded that the adult softball league
games began at 6:00 p.m. and were usually over by 8:00 p.m., and that
the fields at the new park were being developed for adult evening league
usage, as well as other activities.
R. Grassie - was concerned over increased traffic on the Jenkinsville
Road and wondered about the use of Cronin Road as an alternate. Also,
wondered about the use of the park by all-terrain vehicles and would
the park be closed to this type of vehicle?
D. Granger - responded that he hoped the park would be closed to ATV's
and snowmobiles and that this type of usage was not anticipated in the
park at this time.
S. McLaughlin - also wondered about the increased traffic on Jenkins-
ville Road and suggested that 35 mph speed signs, or lower, would be
necessary.
D. Granger - replied that posting speed signs was a function of the
New York State Department of Transportation but a slower speed limit
on all roads adjacent to the park would certainly be in order.
A number of visitors - questioned whether the Recreation Commission~s
meeting agenda was advertised beforehand and how long the Com-
mission had been discussing the acquisition of this property.
D. Granger, F. Bly and B. Little - responded that the notice of each
meeting was advertised monthly in the newspaper and that the schedule
was also posted upstairs on the Town bulletin board.
M. Grassie - informed the Commission that most of the property was
low land and that in the spring the area was heavily flooded. Had
the Town considered that the softball fields would probably be under
water.
D. Granger - replied that the architect was aware of the contour of
the property and that adequate drainage would be looked at when the
engineering plans were finalized.
R. Singer - summed up many concerns of the residents of the area,
including drainage, vandalism, lighting and traffic problems, and
asked if the Commission had surveyed the residents as to what type
of facilities they wolild like at this park.
B. Little - replied that based on the number of facilities that were
presently being utilized by the Department for programs at the school,
that the Commission opted for softball fields, basketball fields,
soccer fields, etc.
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R. Singer - pointed out that
in the park by ATV's and yet
for a place to localize this
with this type of equipment.
like to see a portion of the
the Commission seemed .to be against usage
the Town Board was at this time looking
type of activity because of the problems
Mr. Singer further stated that he would
park be considered for this type of usage.
B. Little - advised all those present that the concerns and opinions
expressed tonight would be relayed to the Town Board and that this
was the purpose of the meeting. Regarding ATV usage, she agreed that
it would be nice to have a ATV area in Queensbury where proper usage
and supervision could be provided. Based on the needs of the com--
'munity and the master plan, this type of usage had not previously
been considered at this location.
D. Singer - presented a petition signed by 152 Queensbury Junior High
School students requesting that the Harris property be made into an
ATV park.
J. Teti - questioned D. Singer as to how many of the petition signees
presently owned an ATV and B. Little assured the young man that the
petition, along with the comments about ATV usage, would be forwarded
on to the Town Board.
D. Cutting - spoke on the topic of ATV's and urged that the Town consider
an area for ATV usage and that the activity be strictly regulated and
that individuals be. trained and given instruction on the p~oper use of
these vehicles. This feeling was echoed by others in the audience in
favor of an ATV area.
Other comments related to the meeting concerned the name of the
park, drinking water quality, restrooms, hours of operation, rules
and regulations, fencing and a possible Ridge Road access. In summary,
it was pointed out by the Commission, that the Ridge Road Park was still
in the initial planning stages and that subsequent open public meetings
would be conducted in the future. Hopefully, further input from the
residents of the area would be forthcoming at that time~ Chairperson
Little reiterated that the Commission's main concern was recreation
for the Town and that their only desire in the Ridge Road area was to
be a gooq neighbor and to provide a worthwhile recreational area.
After thanking those in attendance and inviting them to stay for the
remainder of the meeting, the Commission moved on to other business.
The Commission briefly reviewed the enclosed DirectOr's report
and were dpdated by the Director on the status of the Gurney Lane Pool
project and the old playground equipment donated to the Department by
Queensbury School. The Commission also requested, and were given, a
short update regarding the South Queensbury and West End Park winter
ice rink projects.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at
9:27 P.M. The next meeting will be held on Monday, November 25, 1985
at 7:30 P.M.