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QUEENS BURY RECREATION COMMISSION
MINUTES OF MEETING
MAY 3, 1984
Minutes of the regular meeting of the Recreàtion Commission
of the Town of Queensbury, held Thursday, May 3, 1984 at the
Queensbury Town Office Building, Queensbury, New York. Chair-
person Little called the meeting to order at 7:34 p.m.
PRESENT:
Commissioners Bly, Granger, LaBombard, Lemery, Little
Teti, Councilman Monahan and Director Hansen
ABSENT:
Commissioner Martin (ex.) and Councilman Morrell
VISITORS:
None
Chairperson Little introduced the two new Recreation Com-
missioners, Marv Lemery and Jack LaBombard and welcomed both oftaern.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The Director explained that the minutes of the March meeting were
not yet typed and requested that the Commission defer approval until
next month.
CORRESPONDENCE
The Commission briefly discussed the joint letter to the Supervisor
concerning the disposition of the Glen Lake property. The Director
relayed that the Town Attorney was still investigating the situation
and that no further action had been taken. The Commission reaffirmed
their desire to have the Department make use of the property as soon
as possible, once the legal questions regarding right-of-way were
answered.
Chairperson Little advised the Commission that she had sent a
letter to the Supervisor regarding the Commission's disappointment
over the Town Board's decision to wait on the swim pool project,
until after the grant application is processed this fall.
NEW BUSINESS - SUMMER PROGRAMS
The Director reported on two programs which are under consider-
ation for this year. A fact sheet regarding a two week summer basket-
ball camp for boys was distributed and discussed. Mr. Mott (Queensbury
High School) has proposed this program and along with four or five
assistants would organize and conduct the activity during July.
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Registration would be limited and there would be a $45.00 per week
cost for this intensive instructional/competitive camp.
The Commission discussed the program and were concerned about
the cost and the idea of a profit making program. Overall, the
Commission questioned whether the Recreation Department should be
offering clinical programs such as this. Commissioner Granger point-
ed out that possibly there was a need, however, cost factor and the
limited number of participants made this a very specialized program
which might not be considered recreational. The consensus was to
have the Director explain this to Mr. Mott and determine if the areas
of concern, expressed by the Commission, could be rectified. If
Mr. Mott could structure the program in a more recreational mannèr,
the Commission would be willing to consider it at a later date.
A second program (competitive swimming) was also explained and
discussed. Jim Young, a teacher and swim coach, felt there was need
to offer a swimming facility for anyone interested in preparing for
the swimming/diving competition in the Empire State Games. Mr. Young
contacted the Director in hopes of co-sponsoring, with the Department,
a one hour, three to five day per week, eight week early morning train-
ing program at the school pool. There might be a minimal cost to cover
supervision and instruction for this activity which would be open to
both children (13 years of age and up) and adults.
The Commission was concerned that the program should pay for it-
self and not be a cost to the Town. Under these circumstances, the
Commission approved the concept and instructed the Director to work
out the details with Mr. Young.
DIRECTOR'S REPORT
The Director presented his report verbally and alerted the Com-
mission regarding the School pool problem and the consequences which
may result. Action on the summer brochure and many other summer
programs are directly affected by the Department's use of the School
pool and if usage is not permitted for the coming summer, major pro-
gram changes will occur. In the meantime, the Director will investi-
gate other alternatives, including suitable outdoor sites and other
indoor pools in the area.
The Director then briefed the Commission on the status of the
Gurney Lane swim pool project and the Town's application for HCRS
federal funding. The application has been completed and been for-
warded to H. Hagamman, who is the reviewing agency for this region.
Mr. Hagamman advised the Town that a decision on the application
would not be forthcoming until at least September. In view of this,
and considering the situation with the school pool, the Commission
felt compelled to draft a recommendation/letter to the Town Board
advising them of the situation and the Commission's concerns.
Commissioner Bly moved to recommend to the Town Board and it
was seconded by Commissioner Granger that:
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In view of the fact that the Recreation Department may
not be able to use the School pool for swim lessons
again this summer, as in 1982, we feel that the Gurney
Lane project has taken a new urgency and should become
a matter for immediate consideration, regardless of whether
we get a grant or not. The Gurney Lane project would involve
an additional $300,000.00 to what has been set aside to date
for the project. We would like to know the extent to which
this funding would involve our taxpayers over the next few years.
The Recreation Commission unanimously (T. Martin absent) urges
the Town Board to take the first step and hire an architect,
investigate the bonding possibilities and proceed with the
project. Unless we begin immediately, the people of the Town
of Queensbury could find themselves without a suitable swim-
ming facility in 1985 as well.
The members of the Recreation Commission would appreciate a
joint meeting with the Town Board to discuss the project as
soon as possible.
The recommendation was unanimously approved and the Director was
instructed to have this typed and given to each Board member as soon
as possible.
Commissioner Granger also brought up the role of the Recreation
Commission and there ensued a discussion about the Commission's re-
sponsibility and purpose. A number of Commission members felt there
was a lack of adequate communication between the Commission and the
Town Board. Councilwoman Monahan agreed and also stated that the
responsibility of the Commission should be written in the form of a
job description and that to date she had never seen such a document.
Commissioner Bly relayed that most of the instructions to past Com-
missioners were verbal, and that their charge initially, before a
Recreation Director was hired, was to organize and conduct recrea-
tion programs. The Commission agreed to improve communications be-
tween the two groups and requested that the Board members who attend
the Commission's meetings relay information both up and down the chain.
The Commission also discussed past attendance and the problem
with a meeting quorum and vowed to improve their participation or
advise the Chairman or Director early enough when unforseen problems
arose.
The Commission requested an update from the Director regarding
the West Glens Falls play area and were advised of the progress to
date.
The Director 'also relayed information on the adult softball
leagues, the status of the summer brochure and the preparation for
summer programs which had begun.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned
at 9:51 p.m. The next meeting will be held on Monday, May 21st
1984.